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Are you fit for the army? ("Der Spiegel", Germany)

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Fatty should also be allowed to serve in the army! German Defense Minister Ursula von der Leyen (Ursula von der Leyen) plans to soften the requirements for joining the army. So far the same requirements apply to all applicants.

Are you fit for the army? ("Der Spiegel", Germany)


With heavy backpacks at the ready, making their way through the marshes during the many hours of forced marches through the forests and meadows. They say that military service is suitable only for athletes with outstanding results. Even the one who later works as an orderly or a cook cannot avoid a difficult course. It can not do without a good physical condition.

And now Ursula von der Leyen wants to change these requirements and make a military career accessible to less physically trained candidates. “The question is, is it necessary for every soldier in the German army to really be able to perform a long forced march with a heavy backpack behind his back?” She says.

What should be able to applicants for a place in the German army? They must be "best men" and "best women" - says the website of the German department.

Entrance tests consist of four stages - medical examinations, sports tests, online testing and interviews. Candidates for high ranks, in addition, must make a report and participate in the discussion. For officers, compulsory advisory assistance is also provided for cadets, and for pilots - a theoretical test.

In online testing, logical, language and mathematical skills are checked, applicants must recognize geographic features, find spelling errors, or insert missing words in tasks.

Next comes a test to check physical fitness: sprint (11х10 m), pulling up, bike ride (3000 m). Sprint in which after every 20 m you need to lie on the ground and put your hands behind your back, you need to run for no more than 60 seconds. When tightening in the final position, you must linger for at least five seconds, and the chin should not fall below the crossbar. Especially hard it should be for women. In cycling, candidates must cover the distance in a maximum of 6: 30 minutes. Who does not cope with these standards, does not fall into the soldiers. Good newsHowever, there is also - you can pass the test again within six months.









Officers must sweat longer.

Who wants to be an officer, to the goal is still far away. Applicants for high ranks must pass another five tests. Shuttle run (4х9 m; min. 10,3 with for men and 11,2 with for women). Then squats for 40 seconds (men - at least 21, women - 17).

The next test is long jump. Requirements - 1,95 m for men and 1,57 m for women. Next come pushups. After each push-up, you need to touch with one hand behind the back of the other (men and women - 13 for 40 with). Then there is a run for 12 minutes (men - at least 1901 m, women - 1476 m).

In any case, achieving the minimum indicators in all disciplines is not enough. In order to score the necessary six points, candidates need to score higher points in one of the first four tests. Because for the above-mentioned minimum indicators, the candidate gets one point each, but you need to score two points in at least one of the first four tests.



If candidates do not cope, then these tests can also be repeated within six months.

And it is possible that with the innovations of von der Leyen, “opponents of sport” will soon be in the army.
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http://www.spiegel.de/karriere/berufsstart/bundeswehr-so-fit-muss-man-fuer-den-einstellungstest-sein-a-960602.html
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  1. The comment was deleted.
    1. Roman Skomorokhov
      Roman Skomorokhov April 2 2014 06: 50
      +8
      This is the Bundeswehr. There is still not so bad.
    2. Ptah
      April 2 2014 07: 00
      +3
      Quote: JoylyRoger
      nothing is said about gays

      They say only this is not advertised.
      In my memory, a couple of years ago, there were articles in which the then Commissioner for Military Affairs of the German Bundestag Reinhold Robbe recognized the urgency of the problem of hazing in the Bundeswehr.
      These are mostly racist or right-wing statements and homophobia.
      There are more serious than verbal insults, and even tragic incidents. Of course, for perverts ...
  2. Russki
    Russki April 2 2014 06: 47
    +1
    Yes, in our schools this is the norm of the 6th grade.
    1. StolzSS
      StolzSS April 2 2014 07: 11
      +3
      5 th)) They have it is almost an unbearable standard)))
      1. STALGRAD76
        STALGRAD76 April 2 2014 08: 45
        10
        I understand the feelings of many patriots reading this site, and I consider myself as a reserve officer among them, my son is in the sixth grade, I report that there are NO standards at school! Basketball Games - Volleyball and EVERYTHING! To at least somehow physically develop the child, I take him three times a week with me to the gym with a trainer. Many parents, who are allowed time and money, attend sports sections with children outside the gymnasium. In most schools, physical education is optional.
        1. Good cat
          Good cat April 2 2014 08: 50
          +2
          I agree completely, the child is in school in the 8th grade. I have never gone skiing for eight years, not that the regulations are there.
    2. boozer
      boozer April 2 2014 08: 37
      +1
      So it’s not in vain that our grandfathers reached Berlin! We have preparation uhhhh!
    3. nizrum
      nizrum April 2 2014 09: 24
      0
      at school, a standard is also possible, but at 40-50 years old ... when, due to the "work callus", a mirror disease begins ... this is already something))

      And who can tell a thread about our standards in the army? for comparison ...
      1. Ptah
        April 2 2014 09: 45
        +1
        Endurance
        3 km run - 12.30 min
        5 km ski race - 28 min
        5 km run - 24 min
        400 m run - 1.08 min
        Shuttle 4x100 m - 1.11 min

        Force
        Pullup - 13 times
        Comprehensive strength exercise - 48 times per minute
        Coup up - 6 times

        Rapidity
        100 m run - 14.1 sec
        Shuttle run 10x10 m - 27 sec

        Agility
        Comprehensive Agility Exercise - 10 sec

        Specialist. qualities
        An angle in emphasis on bars - 10 sec
        Diving in length - 25 m
        Handstand against the wall - 1 min
        1. The comment was deleted.
        2. Hon
          Hon April 2 2014 16: 25
          0
          And why, under such standards, are everyone returning early from the army with droves? half of those who have served will certainly not withstand such standards.
          1. Ptah
            April 2 2014 20: 34
            0
            Quote: Hon
            And why, under such standards, are everyone returning early from the army with droves?

            Are you asking me? request crying
  3. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb April 2 2014 06: 48
    +8
    Well, the "Olympic" reserve is straightforward, not the army laughing
    I was especially "impressed" by 2 km in 12 minutes)))
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 2 2014 06: 57
      +3
      Quote: JIaIIoTb
      I was especially "impressed" by 2 km in 12 minutes)))

      We ran about 3 kilometers at school, the Germans were very thin to see.
      1. Simon
        Simon April 2 2014 07: 07
        +1
        Our school students will soon make them. recourse laughing
      2. Walk
        Walk April 2 2014 07: 19
        +4
        Perhaps, I mean in the "full calculation", otherwise the standards are really ridiculous. But this is not the main point. The Germans have a competition to serve in the army, while we are still looking for draft deviators. A different attitude towards the service, however. Of course, the attitude of the conscripts to the service is changing for the better, but very slowly. And you can't call modern recruits sports either.
      3. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich April 2 2014 07: 33
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: JIaIIoTb
        I was especially "impressed" by 2 km in 12 minutes)))

        We ran about 3 kilometers at school, the Germans were very thin to see.

        in the GSVG in 1982 we had competitions with the Germans, a few Germans (and this was the army of the German Democratic Republic, built almost according to our principle) ran 3km, we slopped the salag one (the grandfather gave them the installation, of course) the Germans also dragged! wassat and Lieutenant Tsyganov ran with each group, to make sure that they did not "mow", the Germans were generally shocked, they said "dumkopf" -type: "p.r.i.du.rok" laughing
      4. Army1
        Army1 April 2 2014 07: 46
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: JIaIIoTb
        I was especially "impressed" by 2 km in 12 minutes)))

        We ran about 3 kilometers at school, the Germans were very thin to see.

        Yes, the standard in the school is 3 km-12 minutes
  4. Name
    Name April 2 2014 06: 50
    +5
    The correct position:Fat women also need to be allowed to serve in the army!
  5. domokl
    domokl April 2 2014 07: 04
    +1
    An army that cannot even move on its own is something new ... Interesting. But did the Minister see modern weapons?
    1. Ptah
      April 2 2014 07: 31
      +1
      Quote: domokl
      Interestingly. And Madame Minister saw modern weapons?

      1

      "Ha ha ha .... I appreciated your joke! Though I am Frau, I am still the Minister of War ... And you?
      I mean, they saw it .... "

      / Ursula von der Leyen /

      2

      3

      4

      5

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      1. polite people
        polite people April 2 2014 07: 38
        +2
        The world is going crazy.
        Why are women allowed to such posts.
        1. Name
          Name April 2 2014 08: 15
          0
          Their feminism is flourishing, asexual. hi
        2. predator.3
          predator.3 April 2 2014 09: 00
          0
          Quote: polite people
          The world is going crazy.
          Why are women allowed to such posts.

          But the Norwegians surpassed everyone!
          In the Norwegian army, “unisex barracks” were created to eliminate gender differences: in one room there are four men and two women. The experience was tested at the beginning of the year and exceeded all expectations. According to the participants in the experiment, cohabitation allowed them to “feel like real men” and reduced the percentage of sexual harassment to zero.

          The report, entitled “Army: Front Line, Rear Guard, and Battles for Equality,” cites the words of female soldiers who ended up in experimental barracks in the north of the country. “We quickly became a single team, living together helped to increase the level of mutual trust,” one of them said. The report also says that the innovation has allowed many women to "feel like men."

          “There is nothing strange about this experience,” admitted Ulla-Britt Lilleas, one of the authors of the report. “They live in conditions where gender stereotypes come to naught.”

          According to her colleague Doug Ellingsen, living in separate barracks, firstly, sets men and women against each other, and secondly, sometimes it interferes with receiving timely information.

          From the point of view of the severity of the charter, the armed forces of Norway can be called one of the most liberal. In particular, since August last year, Norwegian soldiers, regardless of gender, were allowed to wear long hair and braid braids. Since November 2013, a vegetarian menu has been presented in the army canteens of Norway.

          I imagine that 4 men and 2 women get up at night in the barracks!
      2. bistrov.
        bistrov. April 2 2014 08: 14
        +1
        In the last picture, presumably, morning coffee? After such food, you can really fall in the distance.
        1. Ptah
          April 2 2014 08: 35
          +3
          This is also the so-called. "Mittagessen" (light breakfast). More often they give a preheated cutlet, muesli soaked in milk or an omelet and an apple or pear. But everything is individual. At the beginning of the month (?), An "individuelle Bestellung" is drawn up, which can include coffee (usually juice)
          Then, again, if you don’t go to the barracks, many, because of laziness, refuse to eat breakfast and receive 1,30 Eurics for each unit of food not accepted.
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich April 2 2014 07: 35
      +1
      Quote: domokl
      An army that cannot even move on its own is something new ... Interesting. But did the Minister see modern weapons?

      is she like a gynecologist? so besides the legs of the patient, she didn’t raise anything ... wassat
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich April 2 2014 07: 37
        +2
        Shoigu recalled: he is not a gynecologist, but the Minister of Defense | Policy-)))))))))))))
        Leaving the construction site, he threw the phrase to the chairman of the Sevastopol City Council, Yuri Doinikov: “You do not hold me for a gynecologist. I am not the Minister of Justice, I am the Minister of Defense. ” laughing
  6. sanek0207
    sanek0207 April 2 2014 07: 08
    +2
    These are the standards !! Very interesting. And what education is not required? Only physo?
    1. Walk
      Walk April 2 2014 07: 23
      +2
      It also says that you need to make a report and participate in the discussion, and also find errors in the text, so education is also necessary.
  7. Sasha_Bykov
    Sasha_Bykov April 2 2014 07: 10
    +1
    “Officers have to sweat longer.

    Who wants to be an officer, to the goal is still far away. Applicants for high ranks must pass another five tests. Shuttle run (4х9 m; min. 10,3 with for men and 11,2 with for women). Then squats for 40 seconds (men - at least 21, women - 17).

    The next test is the long jump. Requirements - 1,95 m for men and 1,57 m for women. Next are push-ups. After each push-up, you need to touch one hand behind your back with the other (men and women - 13 in 40 s). Then there is a run for 12 minutes (men - at least 1901 m, women - 1476 m). "
    WHAT IS THE NORMATIVE REGULATIONS AT ALL UNAHEAT, AT OUR SCHOOLS AND THAT ABOVE THE OFCIAL REQUIREMENTS
    1. polite people
      polite people April 2 2014 07: 39
      +1
      In Europe, only the Bundeswehr’s army can confront us.
      Nobody else.
      1. Ptah
        April 2 2014 07: 55
        +1
        Quote: polite people
        In Europe, only the Bundeswehr’s army can confront us.

        This is true. The Russians and Germans are long-standing Mysterious corefans.
        "Bosom" - this is because only they can so qualitatively cling to others. for Adam's apple.
        But this will not happen in the short term.
        20th of March. Every effort must be made to prevent a "new split in Europe," said German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier.
        ... According to the head of the Foreign Ministry, the FRG and Russia are called upon to play an important role in preventing a split, "bearing in mind their complex joint history."
        ... The German minister expressed his conviction that "the security of Europe can only be ensured together with Russia." According to him, the creation of a single space from Lisbon to Vladivostok "continues to be an important goal, the achievement of which has now receded." "The Germans do not want alienation between Germany and Russia, so that the process of rapprochement was interrupted and there was a distance from each other," Steinmeier stressed.


        More: http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2014/03/20/1246413.html

        In europia - ORDER !!!. For now, the Germans act as gendarmes and the Russians as "conciliators." This is already IMHO ...
      2. predator.3
        predator.3 April 2 2014 09: 11
        -1
        Quote: polite people
        In Europe, only the Bundeswehr’s army can confront us.
        Nobody else.

        I doubt something, but in the 80-90s. the Bundeswehr was a serious enemy! But at present there is a compote of migrants, and the descendants of the formidable "Fritzes" simply died out, turning into asexual creatures!
        1. Ptah
          April 2 2014 09: 31
          +2
          For reference.
          My aunt’s husband went into the reserve as a senior officer from BV (started in DDR), his son is still serving. Another second cousin has been serving for 6 years. I myself was twice on maneuvers as a rotozea. Therefore, I know about the situation in BV firsthand.
          Show me a picture where I would see at least one niger older than Unther. It will be a unique exhibit. They are simply not welcome there at the recruiting level. The only migrants there are Russians, Poles, Serbs, there are Hungarians with Bulgarians. Turks and packs are single and then only for one term (9 months).
          What is often said here about "asexual creatures" is nothing more than a woman's chatter from the "neighbor found out" series ...
          I’m talking about such warriors. And they know what ARM AND I mean!
  8. sasha.28blaga
    sasha.28blaga April 2 2014 07: 12
    +2
    Nonsense. Why are the regulations different for men and women? If a woman is weaker, then how will she look or not look in the unit, will lag behind, not jump, not pull herself, etc.
    1. visitor
      visitor April 2 2014 07: 24
      0
      How you are not tolerant. This is discrimination on the basis of gender.)))
    2. kopar
      kopar April 2 2014 09: 06
      +1
      Why be surprised? Equality ..... Although some women will be later than men. Sometimes I look at the boys in St. Petersburg, and I understand that you put them on a full BC, the machine gun is hanging and they’ll immediately lie down ......
  9. buzer
    buzer April 2 2014 07: 18
    0
    with such a minister of defense and enemies do not ...
  10. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 April 2 2014 07: 20
    +2
    An army that cannot even move independently is something new
    It moves only in the direction we need.
    All surrendered, raised their paws, And where it was to run, Pavlov’s house wasn’t surrendered And we won’t give ... They turned to Europe, the Germans were beaten harder, The ass was kicked to all enemies - Don’t go to Russia villain!
  11. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S April 2 2014 07: 23
    +1
    Whatever you may say, the fighting capacity of the Germans is much greater than the different British, French, and Swedes there. They are good soldiers in the literal sense of the word. I do not praise the Germans, I just pay tribute. I remember them in Czechoslovakia for 68 years.
    1. polite people
      polite people April 2 2014 07: 41
      +1
      The main thing is that in Europe not a single Fuhrer is visible on the horizon.
      And so, without an idea, no one will rise there.
      They will raise their Maidans to them if they begin mobilization.
      1. Ptah
        April 2 2014 08: 08
        0
        Quote: polite people
        They will raise their Maidans to them if they begin mobilization.

        Firstly, and the only ones - IT'S EXPENSIVE !!!
        Former NATO General(apparently shocked by the dildo) Egon Ramms, who from 2007 to 2010 was the commander of the Joint Command in Brunsum and one of the highest-ranking German soldiers in NATO, told the Bild newspaper: “We need conscription. Without it, Germany would not be able to ensure the country's defense if necessary to fulfill allied obligations. Only with the help of volunteers - can no longer. We also need the necessary ammunition for such a case. With what we have now, this cannot be achieved. ”

        Similarly, the former Bundeswehr Inspector General, Harald Kuyyat, spoke out in the same way. "The Bundeswehr has weakened after the abolition of military service, and gradually falls to its knees."

        The acute shortage of personnel in the Bundeswehr is hiding, Kuyyat says. “We don’t have enough soldiers, and they are not qualified enough.”

        "The restoration of military service must be brought up for discussion," said Bundestag MP from the CDU party, Patrick Sensburg, who was the only one from his faction to vote against the abolition of military service. “However, this topic should not be discussed under the pressure of the current crisis in order to prevent escalation. Abroad, such a move will be perceived as mobilization. ”


        http://www.bild.de/politik/inland/wehrpflicht/kommt-die-wehrpflicht-wieder-35196
        108.bild.html


        And they are in the snout ...
        BERLIN, March 24. The North Atlantic Alliance does not plan to increase the number of troops in Eastern Europe, the representative of the German Ministry of Defense said in connection with the statements of the head of the department Ursula von der Leyen in an interview with Der Spiegel.

        "We are not talking about the deployment of additional units on the eastern border," said a spokesman for the department.


        http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2014/03/24/1247888.html
  12. waisson
    waisson April 2 2014 07: 40
    0
    and we have: SORRY GUY
    A 17-year-old teenager from Perm who dreams of serving in the army received a student’s refusal that was declared unsuitable because he failed a psychological test at the military enlistment office. soldier
    1. SPAAARTAAA
      SPAAARTAAA April 2 2014 09: 02
      0
      How is it necessary to try to fill up the psychological test in the military enlistment office? !!! There it is quite simple to answer all suicidal questions in the negative.
  13. polite people
    polite people April 2 2014 07: 42
    0
    The main thing is that in Europe not a single Fuhrer is visible on the horizon.
    And so, without an idea, no one will rise there.
    They will raise their Maidans to them if they begin mobilization.
  14. Quantum
    Quantum April 2 2014 07: 48
    0
    If only they were not ruined by gender! They will be replaced by gentle, flimsy
    young men of unknown gender. And the army will be very weak.
  15. kind
    kind April 2 2014 08: 04
    0
    Who wants to be an officer, to the goal is still far away. Applicants for high ranks must pass another five tests. Shuttle run (4х9 m; min. 10,3 with for men and 11,2 with for women). Then squats for 40 seconds (men - at least 21, women - 17).

    The next test is long jump. Requirements - 1,95 m for men and 1,57 m for women. Next come pushups. After each push-up, you need to touch with one hand behind the back of the other (men and women - 13 for 40 with). Then there is a run for 12 minutes (men - at least 1901 m, women - 1476 m).

    Some kind of stupid test - Shuttle run (4x9 m), we have 10x10;
    - Long jumps (1,95 m.), Why belay anti-tank moat anyway
    do not jump over;
    In online testing, logical, language and mathematical skills are checked, applicants must recognize geographic features, find spelling errors, or insert missing words in tasks.

    Are they there, without exception, de.bily ??? Although it is possible the consequences of the exam.
  16. andrey903
    andrey903 April 2 2014 08: 08
    0
    Our TRP is harder
    1. STALGRAD76
      STALGRAD76 April 2 2014 08: 47
      +1
      It’s good to ... we don’t have a mandatory TRP in our schools, there’s talk on TV and there’s no TRP
  17. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 April 2 2014 08: 21
    +2
    Do not go to Russia villain!fellow
    1. ken
      ken April 2 2014 08: 37
      +1
      So it will be more complete - "Do not go to Russia, a villain, there you will get piz..ley!"
  18. mabuta
    mabuta April 2 2014 08: 33
    +2
    Hold on to Russia! Fat men are coming.
    1. boozer
      boozer April 2 2014 08: 50
      +1
      Good target laughing
    2. kopar
      kopar April 2 2014 09: 08
      +1
      Laughter, laughter, and soon such warriors will appear .... Frederick the Great turns over in his grave .....
      1. Ptah
        April 2 2014 09: 35
        0
        "We are Prussian! What a delight!"
        / Frederick II Hohenzollern / laughing
  19. boozer
    boozer April 2 2014 08: 40
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: JIaIIoTb
    I was especially "impressed" by 2 km in 12 minutes)))

    We ran about 3 kilometers at school, the Germans were very thin to see.


    1 km in 6 minutes !!! wassat The average speed of a pedestrian is 5 km / h. Are they crawling or running backwards? Maybe on one leg?
    1. Ptah
      April 2 2014 08: 51
      0
      Quote: boozer
      Are they crawling or running backwards? Maybe on one leg?

      Today, the lightest weight or the so-called combat display, with which the BW soldier goes into battle, is 28,6 kg. "Lay on the march", with which the infantry units are moving to occupy positions in which it will be possible to part with the equipment, is 46 kg. The full combat load can reach 60 kg. It is used on a “march in a critical situation”, when soldiers have to move on terrain unsuitable for use by vehicles. As before, the military often ignores many of the instructions and rules and simply discard excess equipment to make it easier to move around.
      There is a steady downward trend in these numbers. Mainly due to the use of new materials.

      But. The charter also states that non-commissioners cannot demand from the soldiers any sports that they themselves are not able to do ...
  20. Voenruk
    Voenruk April 2 2014 08: 57
    0
    Paradise for the evader!) Stupidly will not take)
  21. kotdavin4i
    kotdavin4i April 2 2014 08: 57
    +1
    Good morning to everyone, but no one was embarrassed that they were recruiting into the OFFICERS after the test. Where is the Military School?
  22. pink
    pink April 2 2014 08: 59
    0
    Soon all the robots will be replaced, and they will run and jump and shoot
  23. desant_doktor
    desant_doktor April 2 2014 09: 03
    0
    Come on, the Bundeswehr! Destroy yourself at an accelerated pace! No enemy is needed with such a defense minister! You go the right way !!! Hooray, comrades !!!! The warriors of the old German school right now, probably in the coffins like propellers spin!
  24. Stiletto
    Stiletto April 2 2014 09: 06
    0
    At one time I went fishing too, with firewood, as I went in the photo. Then he grew old, and began to take with him only "Husqvarna" laughing
  25. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir April 2 2014 09: 09
    0
    long jump. Requirements - 1,95 m for men and 1,57 m

    this is serious?!
    1. Ptah
      April 2 2014 09: 40
      0
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      this is serious?

      I jump at 2.05 with a height of 194 cm. And a weight of 98 kg.
      It is two legs from a place. True only in shorts and sneakers. Try it ...
      They also have a standard up from the place to touch something suspended at a height of 2.8 (but with a differentiated coefficient). Also with the calculation ...
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir April 2 2014 10: 16
        +1
        I’m no longer a boy, and I won’t allow a lot of injuries, but at the age of 20, what I described here was easy and didn’t consider it to be any more complicated.

        p / s / was not too lazy, jumped 2.1 though the joint ached right away, did not undress to underpants and sneakers, in slippers and jeans smile
        I will not sit, the joint will hurt completely
  26. vel77
    vel77 April 2 2014 09: 52
    0
    And this is the once great army of the Bundeswehr?)))))
  27. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir April 2 2014 10: 25
    +1
    their next step is to replace diapers for a while
  28. desant_doktor
    desant_doktor April 2 2014 10: 41
    0
    Pampers are necessarily unisex. And yet for the undecided necessarily. Otherwise intolerant, ferbotten !!!
  29. Leshka
    Leshka April 2 2014 11: 04
    0
    a woman cannot be a minister of defense negative
    1. Ptah
      April 2 2014 11: 09
      +1
      Quote: Leshka
      a woman cannot be a minister of defense

      One is not allowed. She will have no one to "scratch her tongue" with alone. And the company is already normal ...
      1. desant_doktor
        desant_doktor April 2 2014 11: 37
        +1
        Boo ha ha! Best joke of the week! good
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      3. Hon
        Hon April 2 2014 16: 35
        +1
        And he thought, why did he drag the stools of women into the army? Eurointegrated
  30. sluganska
    sluganska April 2 2014 13: 29
    0
    everything is correct. at such a pace and they will have an army like in Ukraine :-)
  31. razved
    razved April 2 2014 14: 11
    0
    The Aryans have arrived, and soon there will be no one to choose from in the army.
  32. Anton Gavrilov
    Anton Gavrilov April 2 2014 14: 39
    0
    Hmm, now they are deliberately destroying their army.
  33. kelevra
    kelevra April 2 2014 18: 49
    0
    I heard from acquaintances that young people are against the army, also because the Minister of Defense, a woman, among other things, looking at the tank in an interview said that it was a new well-armored hospital machine! They corrected it, maybe it’s a tank, but she began to say that it was not in vain that they put her Minister of Defense and said that there are no tanks on the tracks! So comrades, it is not surprising that such indulgences began to be made, who wants to serve in such an army, where pink tanks will appear soon!
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir April 2 2014 19: 25
      0
      Quote: kelevra
      there are no tanks on the tracks!

      she is just a fan of Lucas
  34. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 3 2014 00: 05
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    And against whom is Europe going to fight? The fact that they are so decayed is in our favor. And in the case of preparation for something serious, we will immediately notice it. We have to keep this constant all-round defense on our borders. And there they prefer to agree among themselves.