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LAS, Turkey and the United States - against Syria

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In late March, a summit of the League of Arab States (LAS) was held in Kuwait. As a matter of fact, this League has already managed to compromise itself a long time ago, at a time when the West and the United States were planning barbaric bombings on Libya in 2011 year. Instead of defending a fellow country, the Arab League, in contrast, called on it to bomb, which gave NATO countries political cover. The position of the Arab League on Syria was no better than that - even in the same year 2011, this organization, called upon, in theory, to defend the rights of Arab countries, imposed sanctions against Syria, and also excluded it from its membership on the pretext that the UAR leadership “dispersed demonstrations. Although these demonstrations were not peaceful from the very beginning, they ended in pogroms and killings of police and civilians, and, in addition, many other members of the Arab League suppressed their demonstrators - especially Bahrain and Saudi Arabia.

And at the current meeting of the Arab League, of course, the rulers — the oil monarchies — did not allow discussing human rights violations in Doha or Riyadh, but focused, as expected, on Syria. The word was given to the so-called "leader of the Syrian opposition," Ahmad Zharbe, who called for increased supplies weapons militants, as well as provide him with a place in Syria in the Arab League.

However, the UN special envoy to the SAR, Lakhdar Brahimi, who spoke at the same summit, on the contrary, said that the flow of weapons to Syria must be stopped. He added that there is no military solution to the crisis in the SAR - only a political one is possible.

The question is who will the LAS listen to? To the leader of a terrorist organization or to an international special envoy?

Judging by the statement made by the representative of Saudi Arabia at the summit, it’s far from mind. The heir to the throne, Salman Ben Abdel-Aziz, called for the support of the Syrian militants with weapons. He also condemned those countries that continue to oppose the provision of Syria’s place in the Arab League with a self-proclaimed “opposition”. The envoy of the Saudi monarchical regime has reached the point of absurdity: according to him, supporting terrorists will help Syria out of the crisis.

Sober voices were also heard. Thus, Lebanese President Michel Suleiman called any foreign intervention in the internal affairs of Syria unacceptable and pointed to the need for a political settlement of the crisis through negotiations between the Syrians.

Another fierce opponent of Syria - Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan - delivered a shameless speech on the occasion of the “victory” of his party in the municipal elections (however, many political forces in Turkey, including the Kurdish Peace Party, talk about electoral fraud during the clashes killed 9 people).

So, Erdogan, speaking of Syria, impudently declared: “There - our historical lands, lands of our ancestors. Our people must return to the path of Ottomanism. We will build a new Turkey. "

In addition, the Turkish Prime Minister even allowed himself anti-Western rhetoric, although in fact he is the puppet of the West and the United States. Moreover, it is striving to become even a bigger American than Obama himself.

The fruits of his work are particularly clearly visible in the Syrian province of Lattakia. According to some information, the terrorists, who arrived from Turkey to the Armenian city of Kasab, executed 80 people there. However, the “world community” is busy condemning Russia for the Crimea, whose accession was completely bloodless, and does not pay attention to the anti-Syrian actions of Turkey and other countries.

The surviving residents of Kasab appealed to the world community with these words: “This is a call to all Armenians. This is a call to all of humanity. The world needs to know the truth. Erdogan and his government are war criminals. We need your help, your action. Our lives depend on whether you do something so that we do not die either. We were kicked out of the house and out of the city in the clothes that we were wearing. If we were late to collect things, then most likely we would have died. Most of us can not even go abroad, because it does not have on hand the documents. Please ask your governments, UN or other organizations that you think can help us to intervene. All we want is to live. If you do not respond, a terrible death awaits us; We will be cut in cold blood, like many Armenians in Aleppo, Yakubiyeh and other Syrian cities. If the residents of Kasab were not warned about the danger, the world would quietly observe another act of genocide, and the media would transmit the next portion of lies. ”

As stated by the Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of the SAR, Faisal Al-Mekdad, the Erdogan government seeks to escalate the conflict on the border with Syria, supporting the terrorist groups that have openly claimed responsibility for the killing of civilians. These groups include those belonging to Dzhebhat An-Nusra and the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, which the UN Security Council has added to the list of terrorist groups. In fact, according to the Syrian diplomat, Turkey is conducting aggression against Syria on behalf of terrorists.

Al-Mekdad added that the behavior of Erdogan is contrary to the true interests of the people of Turkey itself. The leadership of this country "plays with fire", supporting the militants, and should be aware of this.

Some more or less sober politicians in the world are already warning against the dangers of Turkey’s plans for Syria. Thus, several German parliamentarians at once paid close attention to the data on the secret talks between Turkish Foreign Minister Davutoglu’s secret services and the high-ranking military. The deputy from the Social Democrats faction Rainer Arnold said that if the authenticity of the records is confirmed, then Erdogan is no longer a reliable partner for Germany. Omid Nuripur, a member of the Green Party, said even more sharply that the absurdity is that “the soldiers of the Bundeswehr are guarding Turkey, while the Turkish leadership is secretly planning to bombard its own territory.”

Turkey itself extracts from the Syrian crisis considerable profits for itself. It should be recalled that more than 1000 enterprises of the city of Aleppo were ransacked by terrorists, and their equipment and products were cheaply sold to Turkey. In addition, Ankara buys low-quality oil produced by Syrian gangsters with artisanal methods at low prices.

At the same time, Erdogan’s regime allegedly advocates the interests of Syrian refugees, who, according to Turkish high-ranking officials, are exiled, the “Syrian government”. In fact, these refugees are being exploited - moreover, both in the political sense, by speculating with their sufferings, and in the most direct.
The Turkish newspaper Hurriyet Daily News has published material that Syrian children living in refugee camps in Turkey are forced to sell smuggled cigarettes in the south-east of this country. Children work all day, and receive a pittance - no more than 20 Turkish liras a day.

It turns out that Turkey is simply building its bloody business on the bones of the dead Syrians, on the sufferings of those who were forced to leave their homes. All this is being done with the support of the hypocritical Arab League, which has completely discredited itself with a hostile attitude towards Libya first, and then towards Syria, as well as under the auspices of Washington, which continues to provide all kinds of assistance to members of overtly terrorist organizations.
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  1. Coffee_time
    Coffee_time April 1 2014 08: 39
    +14
    It is time for the Syrian military to support weapons as well as the Saudis support the rebels, and at the same time to test prototypes in the mountainous desert
    1. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim April 1 2014 08: 40
      +7
      I think work is going on in this direction.
      1. aksakal
        aksakal April 1 2014 09: 09
        -3
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        I think work is going on in this direction.

        - I will disappoint you, Russia was carried away by the Crimean project, it is not up to Syria. It was possible to distract her well.
        But here Russia should at least help with the weapons of Armenia, and the Armenians, if they are Armenians, should already help their own, especially since they drank from the Turks. They should return the debt, and they caught silence about the treatment of their fellow tribesmen from Syria am In the place of the Armenian president, I would have long ago begged Putin for the weapon that would suit the residents of Kalamun - and there is no need for aircraft tanks, the heaviest - several "Shells" and "Buks", so that the F-16s would not fly again, the rest - small arms and anti-tank weapons such as "Cornet", and heavy machine guns. This is enough for the Turks to calm down there for a long time.
        I don’t really understand the Armenians, they are very important for Russia in the Transcaucasus, this is their effective lever to help their own. Or are there other Armenians who are not Caucasian Armenians? Or Armenians are banal cowards? In this case, I am for the Azerbaijanis in the Karabakh issue - there is nothing for the cowards of the land to take away, because the cowards are unworthy of this.
        1. Sirocco
          Sirocco April 1 2014 10: 12
          +6
          Quote: aksakal
          I will disappoint you, Russia was carried away by the Crimean project, it is not up to Syria

          Do you really think that our analysts bast soup slurp soup ??? After Crimea, after wiping their noses for the "partners", I am sure that work is underway in the direction of Syria. Crimea == Syria. Losing control over any of these regions is tantamount to a slow death for Russia. So, we are not belted with a dick lol
          1. aksakal
            aksakal April 1 2014 14: 06
            +3
            Quote: Sirocco
            in the fact that work is underway in the direction of Syria. Crimea == Syria

            - it is alarming that Russia did not react in any way, or rather, it reacted more than restrainedly, urging Syria and Turkey to restrain themselves) to the wild trick that the Turks committed. And they committed a crime, explicitly supporting the attack of militants of the banned Shaitanist organization by airplanes and artillery! And given shortly before the interception of Davotoglu’s negotiations with the Turkish security forces, then what the hell is the call to be restrained? Here, directly indicate to Turkey the inadmissibility of escalation and the beginning as direct. and indirect military operations against Syria, under whatever pretext they did not come! I do not see such a statement, I do not know that
            Quote: Sirocco
            towards Syria, work is underway
            , it seems to me, they let it go by chance, like, they helped her to fend off the Amer invasion, and Syria itself will already fend off the militants. In principle, it is true, but Turkey is in fact interfering with all plans ... Even Israel is already stopping Turkey! Israel, which is not averse to beat Syria under the guise, declares to Turkey about the inadmissibility of an attack! But Russia was silent. You can understand it - I got stuck in Ukraine, then I would have fun. I'm sure not to Syria.
            1. elenagromova
              April 1 2014 14: 32
              +4
              No, Russia will not abandon Syria. How not to leave the Crimea. Syrians support her very much in the Crimea. she had only become stronger. Now confidence in the victory only became even greater.
              1. aksakal
                aksakal April 1 2014 15: 50
                +1
                Quote: elenagromova
                No, Russia will not abandon Syria. How didn’t leave Crimea. The Syrians very much support her in the case of Crimea. she just got stronger. Now the confidence in victory has only become even greater

                - This makes me happy. The last demonstration of Syria's determination to recapture Kalamun, even at the cost of a war with Turkey, is encouraging. And this, together with some Russian actions in the Mediterranean Sea (don’t sanctify. What exactly is this action?) Gave the result - Turkey included the back one.
                By the way, for some reason, Ramzan Kadyrov stood up for the Armenians -). Well, in the Army, I remember, the Caucasus has always tried to show unity, here, the same smile
                1. Valrad
                  Valrad April 1 2014 20: 11
                  +3
                  KADYROV AT ALL THE LAST TIME DEMONSTRATES AN APPLICATION THAT INCREASES ITS RATING IN THE EYES OF ALL RUSSIANS. Well, in the place with his rating, the rating of his zemlyakov grows. TYPE CAUCASUS ALSO WITH RUSSIANS. I THINK IT'S CORRECT.
              2. alone
                alone April 1 2014 18: 32
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                The fruits of his work are particularly clearly visible in the Syrian province of Lattakia. According to some information, the terrorists, who arrived from Turkey to the Armenian city of Kasab, executed 80 people there. However, the “world community” is busy condemning Russia for the Crimea, whose accession was completely bloodless, and does not pay attention to the anti-Syrian actions of Turkey and other countries.

                http://news.am/rus/news/201845.html

                The video excerpted in the media and on social networks in which terrorists kill 80 Armenians in the Armenian-populated Syrian Kesab is not genuine. The Mayor of Kesaba Vazgen Chaparyan stated this in an interview with the correspondent of Armenian News - NEWS.am. According to him, a few days ago in Kesab there were about 30 people, mostly elderly people who could not move on their own. However, now they have also been transported to Latakia.

                Chaparyan noted that currently the Syrian army are fighting for Kesab, but are moving slowly so as not to harm the city as much as possible. As for the Kesab Armenians in Latakia, according to the mayor, at the moment they need almost everything, as they left home in a hurry, not taking along any clothes or documents. “To this day, the Syrian Red Crescent and the Syrian government have been helping the Kesab Armenians.”

                Recall that in the early morning of March 21, the units of the terrorist group of the Syrian opposition "Jebhat al-Nusra" from four sides launched a large-scale offensive in the direction of Latakia province, populated by Armenians and Alawites. Two large terrorist groups attacked Syria from Turkey.

                Mrs. Gromova, why do you use unverified information in the articles? Was it difficult to find out what was there?
                1. Beck
                  Beck April 2 2014 21: 09
                  0
                  Quote: lonely
                  Mrs. Gromova, why do you use unverified information in the articles? Was it difficult to find out what was there?


                  To find out you have to be a journalist. Madam Gromova propagandist Syrian regime.
                  1. alone
                    alone April 2 2014 21: 19
                    0
                    Quote: Beck
                    To find out you need to be a journalist. Madame Gromova is a propagandist of the Syrian regime.

                    yes good drinks
                    1. Beck
                      Beck April 2 2014 21: 33
                      0
                      Quote: lonely
                      To find out you need to be a journalist. Madame Gromova is a propagandist of the Syrian regime.


                      hi drinks laughing
          2. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith April 1 2014 15: 51
            +5
            Quote: Sirocco
            Do you really think that our analysts bast soup slurp soup ??? After Crimea, after wiping their noses for the "partners", I am sure that work is underway in the direction of Syria. Crimea == Syria. Losing control over any of these regions is tantamount to a slow death for Russia. So, we are not belted with a dick lol


            Fierce fighting goes for Kassab. The Turks withdrew, only aviation being above its territory helps with missile attacks. But after the SAA pulled Buki, the Turkish Air Force calmed down.

            The operational and tactical situation in the battles for the city of Kasab in the north of the Syrian province of Latakia has changed several times over the past three days, but as a result, by March 31, the parties had consolidated approximately at the same positions as on the 27th.

            Syrian government troops deployed additional air defense systems to the war zone, as Turkish aviation began to act bolder, striking army units without entering Syrian airspace. Since March 30, Turkish Air Force activity has fallen sharply again thanks to air defense. Turkish self-propelled guns and artillery continue to strike at Syrian forces.

            On March 30-31, Syrian troops gradually intercepted the initiative. On Monday, altitude 45 was once again freed, the attack on altitude and the An-Nisr army post were repelled. Over the past six days, fighters have attacked the height of No. 45 five times already, twice it passed from hand to hand. The height of An-Nisr was subjected to three attacks, but remained in the army.

            On Monday, the Syrian army received significant reinforcements. The total number of government forces totals up to 3000 people. The number of militants in Kasaba, according to various sources, is up to 2000 people. At the same time, a few thousand more Islamists are on the Turkish side in constant readiness. Their national composition is very colorful. Among them are many Saudis, Libyans, Caucasians, there are immigrants from Central Asia.

            In addition to the heights of Nisr and 45 southeast of Kasaba, fierce battles go beyond the heights directly in the city and to the west of it. On March 31, intense fighting took place in Khirbet al-Soulas, Samra, Souda, Nabaa al-Mur, Naba-Ain (Nabaen).

            The battles for Kasab are critical. If Turkey can find a gap in the defense of the Syrian army here, it can use it for a large-scale intervention. In fact, the actions of the Turkish army can be considered NATO's probing of the possibility of an invasion of Syria. It is indicative that the Western media write very little (almost do not write) about the battles in Kasab and Turkey's participation in them, and the so-called "international community" diligently ignores the persecution of the Armenian population, despite the resonance on social networks.


            Source: http://warsonline.info/siriya

            Militants firing rockets in Latakia province


            After such launches, it is not even clear who they will get there and what is the weight of the warhead for this rocket - a couple of kg?
            1. Valrad
              Valrad April 1 2014 20: 18
              +2
              constantly shouting alah akbar. they don’t know other words)
        2. Vova Vartanov
          Vova Vartanov April 1 2014 11: 08
          +7
          Turks knocked out of Kessab. Destroyed 7 terrorists from Azerbaijan ... ....................... video18 + ///////////////// http: / /www.18plus.am/turki-vybity-iz-kesaba-unictozeno-7-terroristov-iz-azerbajd



          zana-video18 /
          1. alone
            alone April 1 2014 18: 36
            +5
            ))) The link is especially interesting. For the especially educated, I’ll explain again. For the Wahhabis there is no concept of nationality. There are Wahhabis and everyone else.
            Having adopted Wahhabism, these people are no longer Russian, not Turks, not Azerbaijanis, and not even Armenians. They are Wahhabis.
        3. Hairy Siberian
          Hairy Siberian April 1 2014 12: 19
          +3
          Quote: aksakal
          I don’t really understand the Armenians, they are very important for Russia in the Transcaucasus, this is their effective lever to help their own. Or are there other Armenians who are not Caucasian Armenians? Or Armenians are banal cowards? In this case, I am for the Azerbaijanis in the Karabakh issue - there is nothing for the cowards of the land to take away, because the cowards are unworthy of this.

          Participation in hostilities is not to knock on the clave, drinking koumiss in his yurt.
          To the Armenians, that now they should report to each aksakal they meet and bum about their actions.
          1. aksakal
            aksakal April 1 2014 14: 08
            -2
            Quote: Hairy Siberian
            Participation in hostilities is not knocking on the clave while drinking koumiss in your yurt. The Armenians, that now it’s up to everyone who meets the elders and bum about their actions

            - Did she bring you forty on the tail and get it on your bast? So you do not believe, with a hangover and not such a fancy
        4. smile
          smile April 1 2014 14: 22
          +8
          aksakal
          You say that Russia deals only with Crimea, and "does not deal with" Syria ... but this is an unfounded statement. There is no sign that we have reduced our cooperation with Syria. Why do you think that we do not supply weapons and military equipment to Syria?
          These are just the blue dreams of some of our enemies. At first they screamed, they say that we have the Olympics, and we are prosr ... Ukraine, now they repeat the mantra that we directed all our efforts to the Crimea, and surrendered Syria .... and there are so many hopeless earnest hope in these mantras that it becomes That's just funny.
          As for defining someone's righteousness in international relations by the degree of "courage" ... this is strong! :))) Presumably, you think that Hitler and the Nazis had the right to rule the world because of their undoubted courage, against which the European countries looked pitiful ... :))) Sorry, but think, WHAT you wrote ...
          Well, the statement about the cowardice of the Armenians in connection with the fact that they apparently did not send troops to Syria ... :))) in general, to put it mildly, they look frivolous .... I'm not going to discuss the Karabakh issue so as not to divert the topic and do not set fire to a discussion here on this topic .... but you what. It occurred to me that the Armenians had recaptured him from brave Azerbaijanis from cowardice, at the same time occupying 7 regions belonging to Azerbaijan? Wow cowardice .... I wonder where they would stay. if you were bold, do you think? In Ankara? On the border with Syria? :)))
          By the way, if you thought the Armenians were brave. would you consider that their actions in Karabakh are completely legitimate?
          Sorry, but to be honest, I still don’t understand why you are talking about courage and cowardice here ....
          1. Hairy Siberian
            Hairy Siberian April 1 2014 14: 31
            +3
            Quote: aksakal
            - Did she bring you forty on the tail and get it on your bast? So you do not believe, with a hangover and not such a fancy

            I am not an ornithologist and I know the culture of drinking.
            Apparently in a similar situation, the Kazakhs would declare war and attack Turkey.
          2. aksakal
            aksakal April 1 2014 15: 57
            0
            Quote: smile
            Wow cowardice .... I wonder where they would stay. if you were bold, do you think? In Ankara? On the border with Syria? :)))

            - well, he responds to the call for help from Armenians, let me remind you that even Ramazan, who is currently being killed in Kalamun, only today responded from Armenia in an extremely mild form, not even an official, but a political scientist Serzh Sargsyan (I can be wrong), and in the form of an assumption is it revenge for the recognition of Crimea? " You will build assumptions or at least somehow help not someone. and your fellow tribesmen? I deliberately hit Karabakh in order to deliberately hurt the Armenians - I can't think of it - people are crying for help, and those to whom they are appealing, at this time, make assumptions "are they taking revenge on us?" I do not agree, speaking in Putin's language, I did not respect soplezhuev and I will not. And Ramzan was pleasantly surprised.
            1. smile
              smile April 1 2014 18: 20
              +4
              aksakal
              Well, Armenia is already in a very tense situation with Azerbaijan. I doubt that an open confrontation with Turkey is also within its power ... to put it mildly.
              Moreover, if a direct armed conflict arises between Armenia and Turkey, we will have to save the Armenians .... we, of course, will save them, but we are unlikely to thank the Armenian leadership for that.
              By the way, you don’t think that in this case there is no well-planned provocation calculated on the sharp reaction of Armenia in order to draw us into the war? Who do you think will benefit from this? Are the Armenians or us?
              Or maybe someone else needs to set fire to the region? Think, this is, in my opinion, a very likely scenario.
              Given the above, I think the position of Armenia is the only right one. After all, yelling angrily, shaking the air is easy ... but doing it without the real opportunity to back up the cries with force is simply stupid.
              But Karabakh, in such a context, can not touch? After all, this is an unhealing ulcer, which, as I look. neither side. for some reason does not want to heal - both sides are preparing to cut. And if the war starts there, then everything will be sucks .... except for the Americans kicking in the ass of Erdogan, so that the shvydcha tried for their interests .... T
              1. And Us Rat
                And Us Rat April 1 2014 20: 04
                +4
                How annoying is this Erdogan, the henchman of the Islamists. And the region messes up and pulls Turkey into a hole. What about "Turkish Spring"? Is there hope? bully
                1. alone
                  alone April 1 2014 20: 13
                  +1
                  Quote: And Us Rat
                  How annoying is this Erdogan, the henchman of the Islamists. And the region messes up and pulls Turkey into a hole. What about "Turkish Spring"? Is there hope?

                  None. The elections were lost by the opposition. Whatever the Erdogan, during his reign, the country's economic indicators became fantastic, and in Turkey his positions are strong precisely from an economic point of view.
                  1. smile
                    smile April 1 2014 22: 47
                    0
                    alone
                    And can you at least give a little coverage of Turkish opinion - what is the basis for the economic success of the Erdogan government? Desirable - your opinion. If laziness (and I understand it very much) then maybe give a link to the best Russian-language information? What is interesting is the opinion of the Turks - supporters, not opponents of Erdogan.
                    By the way, what can you say about the unrest in Turkey last year - who organized it. who stood behind them, why they stopped.
                    1. alone
                      alone April 2 2014 18: 05
                      0
                      Vladimir. About 30 years ago, Turkey as a country was below the average economic level. Today, Turkey’s GDP is $ 800 billion. Erdogan’s government is now in power. The country's GDP is 30-35% higher. the twenty strongest countries in the world in economic indicators. Given the fact that oil and gas are not there, this is a very powerful result.
                      Quote: smile
                      By the way, what can you say about the unrest in Turkey last year - who organized it. who stood behind them, why they stopped.

                      The organizer of the mess was definitely not me laughingUnambiguously, I will not say who was behind this, due to the lack of facts. I have some suspicions, but this is just speculation. And I will write my speculations to you in person. And they stopped because the Turkish population really supports him, he has a big the electorate. And the electorate was formed due to economic indicators. The population began to live much better than with others. This is told to you by a person who has repeatedly visited Turkey (not as a tourist wink)
              2. aksakal
                aksakal April 2 2014 00: 57
                +1
                Quote: smile
                By the way, you don’t think that in this case there is no well-planned provocation calculated on the sharp reaction of Armenia in order to draw us into the war?
                - I didn’t think about it, such a version has the right to life. Although it seems to me that for the Turks it is a very sensitive issue of the genocide that Armenians awaken from time to time. Remember, Sarkozy scrolled them a little on this subject, so the Turks didn’t start spitting poisonous saliva in response, their explosion of emotions was very stormy. For example, Russia will respond to similar accusations by the same Poles or someone else so-so, well, the Foreign Ministry will express bewilderment, a note of unfriendliness and that's all. Turkey was seething and boiling, barely severed diplomatic relations with France. So my version - well, at the request of the Amers, it is necessary to help the Shaitanists, well, at least at the same time those who are already forced to help will cut those who are very angry at the Turks. The Shaitanists are still going to kill, so even if they cut the Armenians, they don’t care who they slaughtered, but the Turks’s soul is pleased to have avenged the French.
                Ok, you can't help physically - where's Cher's statement? Where is the concern of Aznavuryan? If Aznavour had found an approach to the French elite on past affairs, then why not find an approach on urgent matters that are being done at the moment! By the way, the Russian Foreign Ministry has just made a harsh statement about the massacre of Armenians, but again, Turkey is silent there. Turkey has a special right to troll the Syrians hard laughing Not strong in history, maybe the Syrians where they committed the genocide against the Turks when the Ottoman Empire fell?
                1. smile
                  smile April 2 2014 01: 47
                  0
                  aksakal
                  Hmm, so the reaction of Russia to the cries of the Poles - so-so - only because we didn’t arrange any genocide for the Poles .... there was something like that - on the contrary, but we do not .... and then we know what they know, what we know .... :))))
                  Take my word for it as a person who communicates with the Poles quite often - they don’t blame us for the genocide ... but they violently break themselves off when they blame them - they just have something to break off from ... exactly like Turkey ... this is suggestive ... :)))))
                  Where does he live? Whose citizen is she? What propaganda has Aznavour been listening to for years? Democratic values ​​kill not only natural family and moral values, but also completely discourage sympathy for their homeland ... if the homeland from the point of view of those who impose these values ​​is wrong. then .... You know what role, for example, absolutely Russophobic, well-educated children in the USA play in Armenia .... another thing is that for some reason they failed to accomplish what they managed to accomplish in Ukraine in Armenia, but. ....
                  And as for the harsh statements, you know, I repeat - they can be made only when, if something happens, the enemy can be instantly fucked for ignoring them quickly and in an adult way ... otherwise it will turn out like Americans with sanctions against us and NATO threats - a shame the jungle ...:)))) ....
                  Whatever we say about Turkey, but it has the largest army in Europe, and in order to spoil the massacre, sometimes you need to prepare and calculate the situation, prepare information support for your actions so as not to suffer any losses, preferably not at all :))) .. ... especially since she does not have the same sensitivity to her own human losses as Europeans .... :))) ..
                  If on the part of Armenia we are ready to ruin her appetite, if she crawls, then with the Syrian one, not wanting to reconcile the conflict, it will take time. In my opinion, everything is clear. Loud statements will follow only when they are not empty words. And any actions against the enemy must be accompanied by appropriate informational support ... you say that ours made a loud statement regarding the massacre of Armenians, but they did not say anything about the Turkish aggressors - well, this is the first step in response to the actually launched Turkish aggression, then, if Turks will not fade, everything will go on increasing ... alas, the laws of the genre have not been canceled ....
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    2. mamont5
      mamont5 April 1 2014 09: 37
      +4
      Yes it would be nice. Shut up these pro-american mongrels.
  2. parusnik
    parusnik April 1 2014 09: 44
    +5
    How do you want the United States to burn the fire of war stronger .. Kostra Wars, you have kindled a flame, you will perish in the fire yourself ..
    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco April 1 2014 10: 16
      +3
      Quote: parusnik
      How do you want the United States stronger to kindle the fire of war.

      To whom is war, and to whom is mother dear? The United States rose from the crisis, thanks to two wars, the first and second world. We are only to blame for the fact that the United States wants to eat well, without straining.
  3. Loki
    Loki April 1 2014 10: 12
    -10%
    Particularly terrible in the article, of course, is the paragraph about poor unfortunate children who sell cigarettes and get pennies - as much as 10 bucks a day, i.e. 300 bucks a month. If I am not mistaken, the average pension throughout the CIS is an order of magnitude less than this amount - from $ 100 to $ 250, depending on the country.
    1. Onotollah
      Onotollah April 1 2014 11: 45
      +9
      Quote: Loki
      the article about poor unfortunate children sounds awful in the article, of course

      I understand you have a lot of fun?
      Ready for 300 bucks to live in a refugee camp and sell cigarettes?
      The fact that before that the children lived in their peaceful country, went to school, had a full-fledged education, health care, are the prospects no longer important?
      Well, not everything is lost, Syria and Turkey are not far from you (judging by the flag), you can still fully enjoy the fruits of democracy.
      1. Loki
        Loki April 1 2014 12: 09
        0
        We have already enjoyed, we have here after the war under a million refugees. So do not tell me about this. The essence of my post is that the author of the article does not navigate the situation at all and brazenly lies trying to put pressure on pity. But I forgot to check the lira against the dollar, and most likely focuses on the value of the lira several years ago, when the dollar was about 600-700 lire, before the devaluation. If she does not know about Turkey, then how can she know what is happening there. Thus, he simply invents a compassionate story on the go. Yes, any child in the eastern country will be happy to be paid so much for simple work. This she does not take into account, but in vain.
      2. alone
        alone April 1 2014 18: 41
        +1
        Quote: Onotolle
        I understand you have a lot of fun?
        Ready for 300 bucks to live in a refugee camp and sell cigarettes?

        Onotolle, the average salary in Syria is the same 300 dollars. Here is a link to you, read

        http://telegrafua.com/world/12024/.
        1. Onotollah
          Onotollah April 2 2014 13: 21
          0
          Quote: lonely
          http://telegrafua.com/world/12024/.

          Thank you, the article is interesting.
          But even though it is dated 2.04.2014/800/XNUMX, I still have the feeling that it was written just before the start of the civil war in Syria ("we started peaceful demonstrations in March," "XNUMX people died in clashes in Syria? This figure is very exaggerated." - I quote verbatim).
          In a peaceful country and according to the ambassador himself, this is a decent salary.
          As they say, feel the difference: 300 dollars, a refugee camp and a bloody civil war.
          And what kind of comparison of funds can we talk about in the case of a total nightmare in Syria?
          Because actually, and here.
          So if it was harsh, please do not judge strictly, you know how to boil.
          1. alone
            alone April 2 2014 18: 17
            0
            Quote: Onotolle
            So if it was harsh, please do not judge strictly, you know how to boil.

            No, you are. God is the judge of us all.
  4. Freemason
    Freemason April 1 2014 10: 35
    +2
    Quote: aksakal
    Quote: tronin.maxim
    I think work is going on in this direction.

    - I will disappoint you, Russia was carried away by the Crimean project, it is not up to Syria. It was possible to distract her well.
    But here Russia should at least help with the weapons of Armenia, and the Armenians, if they are Armenians, should already help their own, especially since they drank from the Turks. They should return the debt, and they caught silence about the treatment of their fellow tribesmen from Syria am In the place of the Armenian president, I would have long ago begged Putin for the weapon that would suit the residents of Kalamun - and there is no need for aircraft tanks, the heaviest - several "Shells" and "Buks", so that the F-16s would not fly again, the rest - small arms and anti-tank weapons such as "Cornet", and heavy machine guns. This is enough for the Turks to calm down there for a long time.
    I don’t really understand the Armenians, they are very important for Russia in the Transcaucasus, this is their effective lever to help their own. Or are there other Armenians who are Caucasian Armenians not Armenians? Or Armenians are banal cowards? In this case, I am for the Azerbaijanis in the Karabakh issue - there is nothing for the cowards of the land to take away, because the cowards are unworthy of this.

    Tough but fair, no matter how sad and cynical it sounds. Armenians must rise and give a worthy rebuff to the offenders.
  5. Prince sofa
    Prince sofa April 1 2014 10: 55
    -10%
    The article looks a lot like propaganda from the times of the USSR. The poor Syrians are exploited by the vile and hypocritical West. No, the West, of course, is like that, but why so clumsy?
  6. Nonik
    Nonik April 1 2014 13: 31
    0
    Quote: PrinceDivan
    Poor Syrians are exploited by the vile and hypocritical West
    The bottom line is that children will get used to criminal activity only. Nothing good will come of it.
    How did this west-eastern gadyushnik already get ... Eliminate the true rulers of the United States (all sorts of Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Morgan and who else ..), eliminate the clan in Saudi Arabia, supporting Wahhabism - and immediately the world will breathe much easier. Blame everything on clan / blood wars. The main thing is not to leave any incriminating traces. Let each other think and wrangle.
    PS And it’s so funny to think how the puppets will be at a loss when the true owners bang.
  7. elenagromova
    April 1 2014 14: 30
    +3
    Quote: Loki
    But I forgot to check the lira rate against the dollar, and most likely focuses on the value of the lira a few years ago, when the dollar was about 600-700 lira, before the devaluation


    Funny If prior to DEVELOPMENT there was such a course, what is it after devaluation?
    Presumably, you yourself are incompetent and do not know the difference between devaluation and denomination.
    Prices in Turkey are also considerable, and by the standards of NATO countries, labor costs no less than 5 dollars per hour. So, at least, Western propagandons are trying to convince us. Even in Brazil, no worker will undertake work below 5 dollars per hour, and those who take on 4 are considered a strike-breaker.
    So, to earn 300 dollars, children need to work without days off.
    And when should they study?
    And do they even see a penny out of this money? Oh, not on toys, they themselves "earn" in this way.
    And besides that, children generally have to sell cigarettes? All the more smuggled?
    The future is taken away from the children ...
    Are you ashamed of Turkey to support the bandits? Until there were no bandits, these children lived in their homes, studied, played ...
    1. Loki
      Loki April 1 2014 15: 39
      -1
      Sorry, confused the terms, the main point is clear. And let's separate flies from cutlets - I don’t say anything about child labor, I say that in the article - about child labor is a lie. Moreover, the lie is clumsy, the author did not even bother to see how much this amount is.

      Moreover, I see nothing wrong with such work. In our country, very often in rural areas, for example, children sell some goodies along the roads - such as peeled nuts, or grapes, or figs, for example. Gather in their garden and sell. Pocket money for yourself - so too, they can stand along the road all day and earnings are about the same. For a child for simple work, this is normal. And he does this not because of hopelessness, but simply because he wants to earn some kind of candy wrappers. And I’m sure you will see such a picture in almost any country, in France, for example, chestnuts are sold for example. And distorting all this and turning it into slave child labor is nonsense. And in this article, it is only written because to tarnish Turkey more. From the series, they also eat babies ... if you do not see this, then simply re-read the article carefully, as well as other sources. Nowhere is there any evidence of the participation of Turkish troops, the maximum that the same Syrians say is that Turkish border guards let militants into Syria. In addition, if someone does not know, in Syria there is a tomb - which was mentioned - something like an enclave - so this is officially Turkish territory and there is a contingent of 28-32 soldiers - an honor guard. Turkey has every right to protect this tomb from both Syrians and militants - as its territory. Only this information in this article, I do not see something.
    2. alone
      alone April 1 2014 18: 42
      0
      Madam Gromova, as if billions were being paid to the people in Syria. Http://telegrafua.com/world/12024/. The same 300 dollars. Not tired?
  8. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx April 1 2014 15: 36
    +1
    I think it’s time for our special services to lay out all the compromise on all those who, for the sake of the West and pursue such an unworthy policy in the world, let the world see who there are who can be zhurnolisty, they have very modest opportunities, I think the time has come to put everything in their place, not only with words about how the West and their allies act, let the world see!
  9. Nonik
    Nonik April 1 2014 17: 21
    +1
    Quote: Loki
    And in this article, it is only written because to tarnish Turkey more.
    She doesn’t need to be blackened, she’s not washed off anymore.
    Quote: Loki
    Turkey has every right to protect this tomb from both Syrians and militants - as its territory. Only this information in this article, I do not see something.
    But then you will see: http://topwar.ru/42768-erdogan-gotov-vzorvat-tureckuyu-nacionalnuyu-svyatynyu-ch
    toby-sozdat-predlog-dlya-napadeniya-na-siriyu.html
    Quote: Loki
    Moreover, I see nothing wrong with such work. In our country, very often in rural areas, for example, children sell some goodies along the roads - such as peeled nuts, or grapes, or figs, for example. Gather in their garden and sell. Pocket money for yourself - so too, they can stand along the road all day and earnings are about the same. For a child for simple work, this is normal.
    These are different things, completely different. Smuggling cigarettes is probably under gangster control and there is certainly a certain daily income that they must bring. Guess what will happen if they do not bring it. In this case, in contrast to the trade in goodies along the roads - there is no choice.
    1. alone
      alone April 1 2014 20: 21
      -1
      Quote: NoNick
      But then you will see: http://topwar.ru/42768-erdogan-gotov-vzorvat-tureckuyu-nacionalnuyu-svyatynyu-ch

      toby-sozdat-predlog-dlya-napadeniya-na-siriyu.html

      According to each article in Topwar, the world would have blazed in a nuclear war for a long time, though the truth does not consist only of articles from a topwar. The tomb of Suleiman Shah is considered to be the territory of Turkey. The tomb is guarded by Turkish soldiers. maybe this fact is unknown to you, I can figure it out. Wahhabis destroy all kinds of shrine tombs. According to their teaching, shrine tombs are adultery and sin before God. Erdogan had so many possibilities (shelling from the territory of Syria of Turkish territory when civilians were killed) .One no one He doesn’t want to climb there. War is an expensive thing. It requires huge financial costs.
  10. Bakht
    Bakht April 1 2014 18: 45
    +4
    Erdogan is not Turkey. Erdogan is an Islamist who has long been knitted with a Manila cable. I really hope for a military coup in Turkey. When the military, guided by the ideas of Ataturk, will take power into their own hands and return Turkey to the secular path of development.
  11. Gray 43
    Gray 43 April 1 2014 20: 18
    +1
    In vain, the Turks are climbing into Syria, first they are raking, secondly, a sensible politician will not get into the war having a troubled rear, and the Foreign Ministry of both Europe and Russia may prohibit trips to Turkey as a dangerous country in a state of military conflict, we have an alternative -Crimea, Abkhazia (whatever Yaytsenyukh was chatting), then the situation will be even more interesting. Maybe not the topic, but it seems the time has come for an article on the confrontation of Russian weapons against NATO in the Syrian war
    1. alone
      alone April 1 2014 20: 28
      -2
      Quote: Gray 43
      In vain the Turks climb into Syria, first rake,

      A very dubious statement, because judging by the way the war is going on, Assad has a catastrophic shortage of troops.
      Quote: Gray 43
      but it seems it's time for an article on the confrontation of Russian weapons against NATO in the Syrian war

      where did you see NATO weapons in Syria, except for small arms. Both of them use mainly Soviet and Chinese weapons (what was in the warehouses of the Syrian army) .or t-55 and t-72, BMP-1,2, ZSU -23-2, DShK and other is NATO weapons?