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Do not allow the union of Russia and China. About the new US directive for the Moscow 5 column

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Do not allow the union of Russia and China. About the new US directive for the Moscow 5 column



The intensity of political passions in the international arena slowly began to decline. However, this is only an intermission before the second act, which will open in May with the visit of Vladimir Putin to China. Its results will determine the new alignment of forces and may be Russia's response to Western attempts to “internationally isolate” it. The United States urges not to allow Russia to come closer to China, fearing such a union, and resort to the services of the Russian fifth column. What comes out of it, and what we expect, is worth examining carefully.

“Putin is a Chinese spy”

The task of isolating Russia was not as simple as it was drawn by experts from popular Western publications. However, the United States does not have another way to pressure us, and attempts continue. And even if Europe refers to the idea of ​​blockade of our country with great skepticism, then Asia does not even intend to engage in a risky game. Thus, attempts to pressure us from the European direction naturally turn us toward Asia. The paradox is that such a U-turn is extremely disadvantageous for the United States, although in fact it turns out that they themselves are pushing us into the arms of China.

In a recent article published in The New York Times, former US Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, among other things, mentions:

“Putin’s Russia has no real allies.” We have to leave it as it is. Promoting the separation of China from Russia requiring a revision is a very important task for us. ”

And before the paint dried up in a fresh run, our pro-Western fifth column took a visor and rushed to frighten the population under its jurisdiction with the horrors of the prospects for a union of Russia with China. The first selflessly rushed to the embrasure B. Nemtsov:

“Putin’s Russia has made a fateful, civilizational and absolutely unnatural choice in favor of China. The Chinese treat Russia as a raw materials appendage and will now try to buy oil and gas cheaply. And also, I think, after some time, they will submit to Russia territorial claims for those lands for which they, in fact, have always dug. I mean Siberia and the Far East. This is actually a disaster, and the consequences will be very bad.

I believe that the Chinese "fifth column" or the head of the Chinese intelligence network is in power (in Russia). Because the consequences for the country as a result of the deed are exactly the same. ”

However, it was only a zeroing, and a couple of days later B. Nemtsov struck with napalm:

“Isolation from the West is pushing the country into the arms of China. Farewell to the European choice of Russia, hello Celestial! The whole fate of Russia, her история and culture is associated with the European and Christian tradition. But Putin and Dugin decided otherwise. We will learn Chinese and Confucius. What awaits us in the near future? In May, Putin will sign a predatory contract with China for the supply of gas. I think the price will be less than 300 dollars (in Europe we sell under 400). Next will begin construction of the pipeline Power of Siberia, the cost of the Sochi Olympics. Gazprom will take the money due to the increase in gas prices on the domestic market (and where can we get it from now). That is, at the expense of us with you. Then increase the supply of oil at dumping prices in China. And then we will wait for Siberia to go under Chinese jurisdiction. The main beneficiary of the Putin adventure, therefore, is China. Which, by the way, did nothing for it ...

Putin calls those who disagree with his crazy Chinese choice of the fifth column and national security. But in fact, he behaves as a representative of the fifth Chinese column and the head of the Chinese spy network. Sells Russia to the Chinese ... "

The version “Putin is a Chinese spy” was picked up by Ukrainian news agencies and began to compete in fantasies about how China will soon annex the Russian Far East. In general, the information campaign “No to the union of Russia with China” officially started, with which we can congratulate each other.

What's really going on

Agitka Nemtsova, like all the others, is taken out of the set of novelties of the last century — the cause of which is the deepest crisis of the genre of liberal propaganda. He can be recalled only one of the familiar expressions of Confucius, the study of which he scares us. Here it is: "Who, having reached the age of forty, causes only hostility - that down-and-out man."

In fact, we have the upcoming visit of Putin to China, the main result of which should be an agreement on gas prices. Those who are following the topic a little bit, unlike B. Nemtsov, know that the issue of supplies to China has been discussed for many years and is not resolved due to price disagreements. Moreover, Russia conducts bargaining in accordance with all the traditions of the East, either yielding, refusing concessions at the last moment, or blackmailing gently. However, like China for its part. In general, the normal oriental bazaar.

However, our European colleagues, who threaten to freeze their ears in winter without Russian gas, in spite of Putin, are doing all they can to accelerate the contractual process with China. However, this does not mean at all that in this situation we have to lose something.

First, no one in Europe refused Russian gas. Therefore, to imagine the situation as if Putin had rushed to the feet of China, trying to sell the released volumes, is silly, absurd. On the contrary, Putin’s visit should be regarded as a retaliatory move against threats of sanctions from the West. Note that this, unlike the threatening European chatter, is a real move. And if we manage to hit hands with China this time, it will be a real blow to Europe. Because we will be able to reorient our trade flows to Asia much faster than Europe will figure out how to winter now. And because we will hypothetically sell gas to China cheaper than before Europe, it certainly will not become warmer.

Secondly, China is in no position to dictate to us the price of gas, which it desperately needs. This means that the current situation may contribute to a compromise acceptable to both parties. Because if you miss, then perhaps in the near future such a good moment will not be presented. This is very much in the tradition of eastern bargaining - to agree to a deal, citing special circumstances - and the face is saved, and the pocket is not injured.

What to expect

Putin’s visit to China should put everything in its place. Europe has a chance to come to its senses and soften the rhetoric, or it will succumb to US pressure and force Russia to rally with China. The last option in itself does not pose a danger to us. Sooner or later, but such a union will take place - and everything disposes to make it happen now. Another thing is how it will be implemented on our part.

Of course, the risk of seizing our resources, turning the Far East into a raw material appendage of China exists. But only in the case of a particularly incompetent Russian policy in this direction. In the case of a balanced policy, close cooperation with China (and other APR countries) opens up brilliant prospects for us and is, according to experts, the only way to breathe life into the Far Eastern region. After all, oil and gas is only one of the aspects of cooperation, and there are a great many mutually beneficial projects in other areas. And not all of them are resource. For example, today the Chinese press writes about the decision to purchase the Sukhoi Superjet 100 from Russia 100 aircraft and to open an assembly plant and agent center in Zhengzhou, China. In general, one gets the impression that the alliance with China would have happened long ago if the Russian elite were not afraid to anger the Western world.

We take into account the fact that the refusal to cooperate with China does not guarantee the integrity of the Russian East. On the contrary, with an equal degree of confidence it can be argued that the rejection of such a union leads to the continued degradation of the region and increases the risk of losing control over it in the future. All the same, everything depends on the effectiveness of domestic politics - at least in alliance with China, at least separately.

What can be accurately predicted for sure is the development of an information attack in this area. We will be convinced in every possible way that it is unprofitable and dangerous to be friends with China, be prepared. However, this has a positive effect - the question becomes the topic of public discussion and attention, which means that more people will try to understand its essence.
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  1. buzuke
    buzuke April 1 2014 11: 46
    +10
    US calls to prevent rapprochement between Russia and China, rightly fearing such an alliance

    and are doing everything to create this union
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 April 1 2014 11: 56
      +9
      I’ve read this article on However, Americans naively believe that they can lure China, where to lure? What America can now offer China, the Yankees and so on under the hood of China, the United States practically does not produce anything on its territory and is no longer a monopoly in technology, even America’s fighter ... they drove, China even made a better copy than Americans! This pathetic US-Ukraine attempt clearly shows how insolvent the US diplomacy is! The world has changed, and the US is trying to threaten everyone with naivety and stupidity! negative
      1. jjj
        jjj April 1 2014 13: 08
        +10
        The strategic military, political and economic union of Russia and China is inevitable. This is the main axis of the emerging new world order. The Customs Union, BRICS, CSTO is logically attached to this axis. Japan and, apparently, Germany and France will also attach here.
        1. demon184
          demon184 April 1 2014 14: 07
          +4
          If it weren’t for Khrushchev’s anti-Stalinist propaganda, together with China we would long ago have built communism on the whole planet.
        2. thrower
          thrower April 1 2014 14: 47
          +1
          Unfortunately, I do not believe that China and Japan can be in one alliance.
          1. Aleksandr68
            Aleksandr68 April 1 2014 15: 48
            +2
            Japan, in my opinion, cannot be in alliance with any country in Southeast Asia. It has territorial claims to everyone.
      2. thrower
        thrower April 1 2014 14: 46
        +1
        Ideal for the United States to provoke a military conflict between Japan and China. Now, if they succeed, then China will leave Big Politics for a long time.
      3. Spare
        Spare April 1 2014 16: 05
        +1
        The world has changed, and the United States, by naivety and stupidity, is trying to threaten everyone! negative
        They are like old partisans - the war is long over, and they let all the trains derail
    2. avant-garde
      avant-garde April 1 2014 11: 57
      +14
      Quote: buzuke
      and are doing everything to create this union

      here is an article like this yesterday someone posted a link on the forum!


      While the West is trying to isolate Russia, China has sided with Vladimir Putin. Moscow and Beijing are already in talks to create a military-political alliance, and this alliance could drastically change the balance of power in the world. Reviews of Russia in newspapers reflecting the position of the world's largest political party can be called supportive. For example, the People's Daily, the central organ of the Chinese Communist Party, has recently published publications claiming that "a strategic alliance between Russia and China can become an anchor of stability in the modern world." A well-considered strategy is behind strong statements. In the conflict between Russia and the West, the world's most populous country takes the side of the largest country. Beijing and Moscow are forming an alliance capable of radically changing the balance of power in the world. China abstained from voting in the UN Security Council on the Crimea issue. However, publications in the central bodies of the Chinese Communist Party give a clear idea of ​​the real position of the country's leadership on this issue: "The United States and Europe look at Russia and Putin as if a paper tiger had suddenly turned into a real one," the Chinese newspaper Global Times sneers. Further, the publication writes that the West underestimated Russia's ability to defend its interests in Ukraine. The West's strategy to support the "pro-Western Ukrainian government" is not working. This experiment does not lead to anything but chaos, "to cope with which the West has neither the ability nor the wisdom." In its editorial, The Global Times sums it up: "We cannot deny Russia's support at such a difficult time. China must be a reliable strategic partner. This is how new friends are made." In his address to the State Duma and the Federation Council, Putin officially expressed gratitude to the "Chinese people." And even more important events take place behind the scenes of the political scene. Experts from the Russian Foreign Ministry, for example, have begun work on a draft treaty on "military cooperation" with China. Details have not yet been disclosed, but it is clear that this document will be more significant than the agreement on "good-neighborliness, friendship and cooperation" between the two countries, which Putin concluded with China in 2001. This agreement already provides for the prospect of "military and military-technical cooperation" between the Russians and the Chinese. Moscow does not fully satisfy the demand for armaments from the Chinese side. This may change in the near future. Beijing has expressed a desire to acquire Russian Project 949A Antey submarines armed with cruise missiles. According to many experts, in the near future we should expect joint Russian-Chinese projects in the field of military shipbuilding and aircraft construction.

      Source: http://politikus.ru/articles/15856-kitay-pomozhet-rossii-protiv-ssha.html
      Politikus.ru
    3. W1950
      W1950 April 1 2014 12: 06
      +32
      To Nemtsov's question, "what awaits us?" I would like to answer. You, as a traitor, would have been waiting for a forehead smeared with brilliant green, but given the abolition of the death penalty, complete contempt and oblivion await. And you do not need to identify yourself with the entire Russian people. You are a chiriy on his ass.
      1. elmi
        elmi April 1 2014 12: 12
        +10
        Do not allow the union of Russia and China. About the new US directive for the Moscow 5 column

        Judging by the large stuffing of articles where they scare China, you understand that the 5 column regularly processes orders from the west.
        1. thrower
          thrower April 1 2014 14: 52
          +3
          Looking at such a fifth column, I understand why Putin does not remove it. These Nemtsovs with Navalny cause nothing but disgust.
      2. podpolkovnik
        podpolkovnik April 1 2014 14: 27
        +2
        Quote: W1950
        To Nemtsov's question, "what awaits us?" I would like to answer. You, as a traitor, would have been waiting for a forehead smeared with brilliant green, but given the abolition of the death penalty, complete contempt and oblivion await. And you do not need to identify yourself with the entire Russian people. You are a chiriy on his ass.
    4. Siberian19
      Siberian19 April 1 2014 13: 34
      +5
      look, very informative!
      1. Gorinich
        Gorinich April 1 2014 19: 06
        0
        Is it Marx or something? laughing
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    1. real
      real April 1 2014 12: 23
      +23
      Question: In the 16th century, Ivan the Terrible, with whom did he break out, with the Lithuanians and Poles, or with the Chinese? In 1610, who occupied Moscow, the Poles or the Chinese? In the 18th century, Peter1 fought with the Swedes and Turks, or with the Chinese? In 1812, the Patriotic War was with the French or with the Chinese? In 1856, the Crimean War (the defense of Sevastopol) with whom was with England, France, Turkey or with China? In World War I, Russia fought against Germany or against China? The Great Patriotic USSR led against Hitler or against Mao? The USSR lost the Cold War to the West or China ??? This is history!!! The next question: so with whom should I keep my eyes open ?????????????
      1. mad
        mad April 1 2014 12: 39
        +16
        A small correction - we did not lose the Cold War, but retreated to regrouping in connection with the betrayal of the Supreme Commander.
        1. thrower
          thrower April 1 2014 14: 53
          -3
          Alas, we lost outright.
        2. CALL.
          CALL. April 1 2014 14: 57
          +2
          Quote: mad
          in connection with the betrayal of the Supreme Commander.

          Betrayal, betrayal. And who was punished (shot) for treason? All first and last names are known.
          1. mad
            mad April 1 2014 19: 31
            0
            The hunchback grave will punish!
  3. Siberian19
    Siberian19 April 1 2014 11: 48
    +23
    friends from China arrived yesterday at a sailing regatta, they say they treat the Russians very well, while the Americans, if not hostile, are very negative!
    1. kgbers
      kgbers April 1 2014 12: 04
      +9
      China does not need Russian lands - they already have North American ones. laughing
  4. Rus2012
    Rus2012 April 1 2014 11: 48
    +24
    “Putin’s Russia has no real allies.” We have to leave it as it is. Promoting the separation of China from Russia requiring a revision is a very important task for us. ”


    ... actually they were late!
    The howl and cry of the 5 column will be belated.
    First, with China we have long been on a friendly footing. Together we fought many times in the same trenches. Even when there were disagreements, and then they did not completely lose ties ...

    As for the 5 columns, it will soon be waiting for them -
    A man who hates Russia is not worthy of being its citizen.

    Deprived of citizenship, will be limited in land ownership. He will be forced to employ a quota for foreigners. Will not be able to work in the civil service. And, of course, he will not be able to participate in the elections.

    I can note that such penalties are in the laws of many foreign countries. For example, Germany and France. In Israel, the court may deprive of citizenship for terrorism and anti-state activities. Great Britain, most recently deprived 20 people of citizenship, for participating in the war in Syria. So, this is a fairly common practice.

    In Russia, to adopt such a practice, two legislative actions are necessary. First, to introduce a rule in the Constitution that allows depriving citizenship of anti-state activities, and public insults of Russia and its people. Second, to prescribe and adopt a law in detail that describes the cases and practice of applying this norm. Yes, and in my opinion, it is necessary to make the right for a person deprived of citizenship, after a certain time to ask for the restoration of citizenship, if he no longer committed actions for which he was punished.

    Insults to Russia and its people must be completely eradicated. They should be perceived in society, along with the most evil violations of the rules of normal social behavior.

    Entirely - http://besttoday.ru/posts/10315.html
    1. thrower
      thrower April 1 2014 14: 55
      0
      First, with China we have long been on a friendly footing. Together we fought many times in the same trenches. Even when there were disagreements, and then they did not completely lose ties ...


      Unfortunately, under Khrushchev, China’s attitude towards us has changed. We are in their eyes traitors, we betrayed Stalin. If this changes now it will be wonderful.
    2. Native grandfather
      Native grandfather April 1 2014 16: 20
      0
      Quote: Rus2012
      ... actually they were late!
      The howl and cry of the 5 column will be belated.
      First, with China we have long been on a friendly footing. Together we fought many times in the same trenches. Even when there were disagreements, and then they did not completely lose ties ...

      You don’t know much, friends. And this is not in the history books. In the memory of my parents there were times when the Chinese were driven away with bayonets to Amur, so that they would sail to their own China. Naturally, not all crossed. Although before the quarrel of our states in the winter it was possible to cross Amur on ice to trade, drink tea, chat (not officially of course). In Blagoveshchensk, we still have houses on the edge of the city with traces of shelling by the Chinese. And there is a story with the Daman island. Only in the 90s did we withdraw our troops from the border in order to start relations and trade. When I was in the USSR, in Blagoveshchensk there was a powerful fortified area. Since the Khrushchev era, our relations with China have been very hostile. Here is such a piece of our history.
  5. Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
    +22
    The first selflessly rushed to the embrasure B. Nemtsov


    By the way, where is this horseradish now found? Why is he still not in Lefortovo for a couple with a fat virgin?
    1. buzuke
      buzuke April 1 2014 12: 44
      +2
      and he is like an elusive joe, why doesn’t anyone need it. much honor in the political record it through lefortovo
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      2. siberalt
        siberalt April 1 2014 14: 21
        +1
        Why is the elusive. He is a chronic fifteen day old. laughing


        http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/879/jbfl232.jpg
    2. thrower
      thrower April 1 2014 14: 56
      +1
      We need such an enemy, and we don’t need it in Lefortovo, to the zoo maximum.
    3. Suhov
      Suhov April 1 2014 17: 37
      0
      The first selflessly rushed to the embrasure B. Nemtsov

      fellow


      Unfortunately the embrasure was not the same
      sad
      what would have to be ...
      recourse
  6. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov April 1 2014 11: 51
    +19
    I don’t understand why the United States sponsors all of our losers, there’s no sense in them. The time has come when the USA can offer nothing to the world anymore. Actually nothing, because what they can offer and don’t need anyone for nothing. .
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic April 1 2014 12: 17
      +9
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      I don’t understand why the USA sponsors all our losers,there’s no sense in them. The time has come when the United States can offer nothing to the world. In general, nothing, because what they can offer for nothing is needed for anyone. The Chinese are not stupid either, they all understand.



      Apparently they are convinced that Oval and Nemtsov are the main liberal gurus in Russia. "Matrix", eprst- if Soviet dissidents from among the liberal, non-living cosmopolitan intelligentsia contributed to the collapse of the USSR, then the same method is suitable for the collapse of Russia.
      1. Terrible ensign
        Terrible ensign April 1 2014 12: 37
        +5
        Now, it seems to me, that case when the old proven American rake does not work ... Their stereotyping has become too boring for the whole world, and after the 90s, the overwhelming majority of the population of Russia, we were given a major vaccination.
        1. Suhov
          Suhov April 1 2014 17: 52
          +1
          Quote: Scary ensign
          Now, it seems to me that case when old proven american rake won't work... Their stereotyping has already become boring to the whole world, and after the 90s, the overwhelming majority of the Russian population, we have been given a major vaccination.


          Really.
          yes
          Now even a child knows such words as:
          democracy, freedom, partnerships, equality, liberalism, etc. etc.
          spoken by our sworn "partners"
          have excellent, from generally recognized
          semantic content (meaning).
          Lying and fooling has become more difficult.
          hi
    2. Oleg Sobol
      Oleg Sobol April 1 2014 12: 21
      +4
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      I don’t understand why the USA sponsors all our losers, there’s no sense in them.


      As they say, in the absence of a Good Horse (the Horse is not counted at all) and the old Koz.ly in the field "plowmen" (even though they are ... part of the budget costs) laughing
  7. Sma11
    Sma11 April 1 2014 11: 52
    +11
    By the way, it has long been known from world history that the Chinese of all the conquerors dissolved in their civilization and subsequently the conqueror himself became a Chinese.

    I remember the years of my youth when Chinese goods were synonymous with quality. I don’t know if the cooperation between China and Russia will bring more pros or cons. But I’m sure of one thing. One should be friends with such a partner, but carefully.
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 April 1 2014 12: 07
      +11
      Quote: Sma11
      You need to be friends with such a partner, but carefully.


      About "but be careful"
      You can be friends, while careful friendship is impossible! laughing
      To be friends or to be friends ...
      Those in the know say that it is necessary to conclude a "Blood Union of non-Western civilizations" with China; union on the proximity of our civilizations:
      - features of our Asian thinking
      - trinity of consciousness
      - the proximity of the territory, what we live on the same mainland
      ...
      With all this, it is necessary to summarize the advantages of each civilization, and neutralize the disadvantages.

      It just means - keep in mind that the Han people can easily swallow 140mln. people of Russian civilization in their 1.4bn ...
      But, this will only happen if we succumb to it.
      Do not forget that it is enough for one Russian child to appear in foreign classes, after six months or a year, everyone begins to speak Russian ... in any case, it is obscene in Russian laughing
  8. assasyns
    assasyns April 1 2014 11: 55
    0
    Let them try further
  9. sinukvl
    sinukvl April 1 2014 11: 55
    +24
    Russia and China should have good neighborly relations. Even the fact that China honors and remembers the Soviet soldiers who died during World War II for the liberation of China, in contrast to the former "brothers" in Geyrop, speaks volumes. Moreover, I think that the cooling in our relations with China in 50-60. 20th century, this is a direct consequence of the policy of denigrating Stalin and everything that was in the USSR before Khrushch came to power.
    1. real
      real April 1 2014 12: 33
      +10
      Mao could not forgive Khrushch for denigrating the name of his friend and older brother Stalin !!! Because Mao respected Stalin very much! This act honors Mao as a person, as a friend ... True, interstate relations have suffered ... Regarding Khrushchev: why did he go to expose the cult of Stalin? Yes, because he looked very pale against Stalin !!! If you can’t catch up on someone, then drop that one (even if only the memory of him) ...
      1. jjj
        jjj April 1 2014 13: 18
        +1
        Honestly, Comrade Mao and Comrade Stalin could not stand. Stalin outplayed him. And in his late years, the personality cult of Mao was many times stronger than that of Stalin. In the USSR, at least at every step, quotes - small red books with excerpts from Mao's speeches - did not shake. And in China, I myself saw this, such a practice was in the order of things. It was very reminiscent of modern mass hysteria at gatherings in sects. In general, China began to develop just after the death of Mao
    2. assasyns
      assasyns April 1 2014 15: 49
      +1
      Do not decrease, do not add. Mao saw the root
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  10. AleksPol
    AleksPol April 1 2014 11: 57
    +5
    And who is Nemtsov? request
    1. bubalik
      bubalik April 1 2014 12: 01
      +8

      AleksPol SU  Today, 11: 57 New


      And who is Nemtsov? request


      ,,, here ,, belay
      1. silver_roman
        silver_roman April 1 2014 12: 27
        +5
        muzzle and asks for a kiss with a shovel !!! angry
      2. podpolkovnik
        podpolkovnik April 1 2014 15: 08
        0
        Quote: bubalik

        AleksPol SU  Today, 11: 57 New


        And who is Nemtsov? request


        ,,, here ,, belay
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    3. Gecko
      Gecko April 1 2014 12: 08
      +5
      By nationality and affairs not Russian ...
  11. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb April 1 2014 11: 58
    +9
    Merkel is calling Obama.
    Barack I have 2 news for you, one bad one is good, where to start.
    Obama: I had a bad year and have a bad year. Speak good.
    Merkel: Crimea has returned to Ukraine!
    Obama: WOW .....! Is it bad?
    Merkel: Ukraine became part of Russia.
    1. alex-s
      alex-s April 1 2014 13: 39
      +2
      Merkel: Crimea has returned to Ukraine!
      Obama: WOW .....! Is it bad?
      Merkel: Ukraine became part of Russia.


      Now, even if Ukraine becomes part of Russia, it is already separate from the Crimea!
  12. sergo
    sergo April 1 2014 11: 59
    +9
    "The Chinese regard Russia as a raw material appendage"
    Is the West at the moment treats us differently !?
  13. Coffee_time
    Coffee_time April 1 2014 12: 00
    +16
    For comrade Nemtsov and the entire fifth column
    1. Lich
      Lich April 1 2014 12: 18
      +5
      No, the fifth column does not deserve such a ... Too much they have spoiled Russia. From a Jew Nemtsov - make a Jewess, and send to Thailand to work. Although ... Thais are people too.
  14. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 April 1 2014 12: 01
    +6
    Well, we’ve already been through this, God forbid, so that it does not end with Damansky and Zhalanashkol ...

  15. johnsnz
    johnsnz April 1 2014 12: 04
    +2
    Flowed, however, on the thighs of the Americans
  16. plotnikov561956
    plotnikov561956 April 1 2014 12: 04
    +13
    A squeal of enthusiasm will only confirm the correctness of the course of OUR PRESIDENT ... after the Crimean campaign, many Russians reassessed their political values, this can even be seen in the closest personal circle ... I just want to say .. we are leisurely and the right way ... with which and congratulations
    1. Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
      +1
      Quote: plotnikov561956
      Yelp greedily only confirms the correctness of the course of our president.

      That's right, the louder they scream, the clearer it becomes that we are on the right course.
      But if the screech subsides, you need to be alert.
  17. Partizan
    Partizan April 1 2014 12: 04
    -17%
    “Putin is a Chinese spy”

    Well, do not distort, not Chinese, but American.
    in May, Vladimir Putin’s visit to China

    still give Crimea to China
  18. Quantum
    Quantum April 1 2014 12: 10
    +10
    Yesterday, on TV they showed how the 5th column entered the US embassy for
    receiving instructions and money. Why, when they left, they did not expect them
    avtozaki with further expulsion to the islands of Novaya Zemlya? It's time to cleanse Russia from traitors!
    1. ronin
      ronin April 1 2014 14: 28
      0
      On the new land it is impossible ... Polar bears will be laughing terrorize
    2. ronin
      ronin April 1 2014 14: 28
      0
      On the new land it is impossible ... Polar bears will be laughing terrorize
  19. Gagarin
    Gagarin April 1 2014 12: 11
    +8
    I think that now China is a chance for Russia to REMOVE AMERICA completely ECONOMICALLY,
    all other options are a protracted and long struggle.
    1. thrower
      thrower April 1 2014 15: 07
      +2
      If such a large rat as the United States is driven into a corner, then it can deliver a nuclear strike, and it will become one. Therefore, a long struggle is preferable for us, but there is a minus - we need a pro-Russian elite, youth who will come to power in 15-20 years, but will continue to pro-Russian politics.
  20. fly fishing
    fly fishing April 1 2014 12: 13
    +2
    Quote: AleksPol
    And who is Nemtsov? request

    Booochie adore cookies.
  21. erased
    erased April 1 2014 12: 15
    +1
    With China, as well as with others, it is necessary to cooperate, keeping troops ready. Cooperation? Fine! But keep the gunpowder dry, the ear piled up, and the vigorous button on its side.
  22. Gorinich
    Gorinich April 1 2014 12: 17
    +4
    It’s hard for one Russia against the United States, one for China alone. But the two are really in every way.
  23. ken
    ken April 1 2014 12: 19
    +8
    Positive article. Since they don’t love us in the west, let's shake hands with the east.
  24. silver_roman
    silver_roman April 1 2014 12: 19
    +8
    Germans ... Germans .. Germans ... when will the purge of the so-called "elite" begin ???
    this cattle has long deserved to die! the saddest thing is that it is full of such!
    The results of foreign policy are certainly impressive, but when will Putin let the dogs down to the notorious traitors of Russia! ??
    1. silver_roman
      silver_roman April 1 2014 12: 39
      -1
      oops ... referring hamsters minus again))
  25. zerkalov35
    zerkalov35 April 1 2014 12: 22
    +5
    I have a good friend in China who taught at the institute, he himself is an artist, tells that such disciplined students as the Chinese still need to look ...
    1. jjj
      jjj April 1 2014 13: 20
      +2
      North Koreans
  26. little man
    little man April 1 2014 12: 25
    +4
    Solid article. Interesting and reasoned
    1. velikoros-xnumx
      velikoros-xnumx April 1 2014 13: 29
      +1
      Quote: man
      Solid article. Interesting and reasoned

      I agree. Calm thoughtful pragmatic reasoning without all that is superfluous. Itself came to about the same conclusions. It is possible and necessary to be friends, but very carefully maintaining their Armed Forces at a sufficient level, while demonstrating the political will to use them if something happens. Enough so that no one would even have a shadow of doubt about their combat effectiveness.
      To the author plus.
  27. Flinky
    Flinky April 1 2014 12: 25
    +2
    It is better to be friends with China than with rotten western homosexual.
    And do not forget to grab the Serbs and Bulgarians.
    1. thrower
      thrower April 1 2014 15: 09
      +1
      Here the Bulgarians are still those friends to us - two world wars, and in both of them they are our opponents.
  28. mabuta
    mabuta April 1 2014 12: 26
    +9
    Without the support of China, we would have been much harder. And I think Vladimir Putin, taking certain steps, is always confident in the support of the allies. And the fifth column, let him smoke bamboo. wassat
  29. Conrat83
    Conrat83 April 1 2014 12: 29
    +9
    The Continental Union of Germany-Russia (CU) -China (Asia) is a terrible dream for the entire Anglo-Saxon world. German technology + Eurasian natural resources + Asian human resources = .. opa to US dominance. Dreams Dreams...
  30. Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
    +1
    A bit out of topic, but very close to Nemtsov:

    On March 31, 2014, a meeting of the UN Security Council was held in New York. The UN Security Council meeting was held according to The Arria Formula Meeting, which is used to discuss complex political issues in confidence.
    The main issue of the meeting was to discuss the critical situation in Crimea.
    The meeting opened with a speech by Mustafa Dzhemilev, in which he expressed the hope that the international community would take sufficiently effective measures to free Ukraine from occupation and prevent such aggressive actions against sovereign states.


    And what about this now a citizen of Russia?

    The full text of this statement ... here: http://qtmm.org/news/4418- Mustafa-Dzhemilev- non-surrogate

    but-generally-solve-the-question-about-belonging

    go-or-other-region-region-or-settlement-to-to

    This state-of-a-state-local

    of the referendum
    1. mad
      mad April 1 2014 12: 46
      +8
      Do not give this brat a Russian passport and take to Ukraine together with steel scrap left from the Ukrainian army!
      1. Captain45
        Captain45 April 1 2014 16: 39
        +1
        Quote: mad
        Do not give this brat a Russian passport and take to Ukraine together with steel scrap left from the Ukrainian army!

        Do not just take it out, but put it in the ukro tank, brew all the hatches and let it roll.
  31. dik-fort
    dik-fort April 1 2014 12: 30
    +7
    The thesis that Russia may lose the Far East I consider far-fetched and false, I ask how? Direct massive military intervention from China is unlikely, yet the Chinese do not * iota attack a nuclear power and disappear from the face of the Earth. Yes, there were attempts at provocations in Damanskoye at one time, but there was a border dispute, now the border is recognized. There is a threat of creeping colonization by the Chinese of our Far East, but everything is in the hands of the migration service of the Russian Federation, which rules will be established, such will be the opposition to this process. In addition, Chinese diasporas exist in many countries of the Asia-Pacific region, including the United States, but this does not mean that these territories will eventually be "captured" by China. At present, the threat of migration of immigrants from the countries of Central Asia is more urgent, again, all the levers are in our hands, but the authorities, unfortunately, do not react to it properly. And it would be time for Nemtsov to mark his face with brilliant green as Pusski.
  32. Partizan
    Partizan April 1 2014 12: 39
    0
    Quote: dik-fort
    I consider the thesis that Russia may lose the Far East far-fetched ... There is a threat of creeping colonization by the Chinese of our Far East, but everything is in the hands of the Russian migration service, what rules will be established, so will the opposition to this process. ...

    Such will establish rules that there will be no opposition to this process.
  33. Dragon-y
    Dragon-y April 1 2014 12: 42
    +4
    Maybe it will seem strange ... but for some reason Confucius and Tao are closer to me in spirit than "Eurosodomy" ...
    1. thrower
      thrower April 1 2014 15: 11
      +1
      This is if you choose "either-or". Russian civilization is itself capable of leading peoples with it.
  34. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 1 2014 12: 49
    +4
    Erzatzpatriots like Nemtsov think only of their self-promotion. It is necessary to be friends with China, it is necessary to conclude a bilateral military-political alliance, it is good when someone will cover your back at a difficult moment. And we never had and never will have friendship with the Anglo-Saxons. In friendship, as in life, as you set yourself up, they will relate to you.
  35. VladimS
    VladimS April 1 2014 12: 50
    +5
    Quote: Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
    Quote: plotnikov561956
    Yelp greedily only confirms the correctness of the course of our president.

    That's right, the louder they scream, the clearer it becomes that we are on the right course.
    But if the screech subsides, you need to be alert.

    That's right!
    The Maidan thanked Makarevich.
    I wonder if this Judas answered such thanks and how?
    The Jew Nemtsov "worries" about the life of the Russian peoples. To be offended.
    They went to the US Embassy as if they were going to work ... Lefortovo has long missed them.
    1. podpolkovnik
      podpolkovnik April 1 2014 14: 34
      +2
      Quote: VladimS
      Quote: Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
      Quote: plotnikov561956
      Yelp greedily only confirms the correctness of the course of our president.

      That's right, the louder they scream, the clearer it becomes that we are on the right course.
      But if the screech subsides, you need to be alert.

      That's right!
      The Maidan thanked Makarevich.
      I wonder if this Judas answered such thanks and how?
      The Jew Nemtsov "worries" about the life of the Russian peoples. To be offended.

      They went to the US Embassy as if they were going to work ... Lefortovo has long missed them.


      I repeat again:
  36. Old shoe
    Old shoe April 1 2014 13: 01
    +5
    We will learn Chinese and Confucius ...
    I don’t know what about the Chinese, and Confucius would have been nice to learn from. The cleverest was a man. What is wrong with joining world wisdom? Or, according to Nemtsov, not for us condo ...
  37. raz78
    raz78 April 1 2014 13: 32
    +2
    I am a resident of the Far East. We have long been driving to Japanese and, more recently, Korean cars, the rest of the goods are almost entirely from China. So, in our country, no one will feel or notice either the American or the European sanctions.
  38. Vyacheslav 64
    Vyacheslav 64 April 1 2014 13: 50
    +3
    Corrupt "army" is always ready to fulfill any whim of the owner, just pay the dollars!
  39. Vyacheslav 64
    Vyacheslav 64 April 1 2014 13: 53
    +5
    Maybe a bright day will come? :)
  40. Vyacheslav 64
    Vyacheslav 64 April 1 2014 13: 53
    0
    Maybe a bright day will come? :)
  41. DMoroz
    DMoroz April 1 2014 13: 56
    0
    both parties will benefit from such an alliance
  42. zol1
    zol1 April 1 2014 14: 14
    0
    Prophecies of Elder Joseph of Vatopedi
    Prophecies | Date: 10.01.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX
    Now this state of deterioration is a common condition all over the world. AND
    just this state, this is the limit after which it’s already
    the wrath of God begins. Just we reached this limit. And now
    it will be that the Lord endured by his grace, and now it will be true
    to act, to punish, because the time has come for it now.
    There will be war, wars, and we will experience great difficulties. Now
    Jews seized international power, and their goal is to eradicate
    Christianity.


    What else can be added to this ?!
  43. Stasi
    Stasi April 1 2014 14: 22
    0
    Much has been said about this, but let me repeat it again. Russia should have long ago agreed to an alliance with the East, such countries as China, Vietnam, Korea, Thailand, Japan and the entire Asia-Pacific region. It is also necessary to accelerate the development of cooperation with the BRICS countries, especially in the military sphere. It's time to fulfill the behest of Peter the Great: "Turn your back to Europe, face the East." We may well create competition for the West and the United States in the APR. It is only necessary to show political will and direct all efforts to cooperation with the APR countries.
  44. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin April 1 2014 14: 32
    +3
    Nemtsov can’t forgive in any way that EBN promised to make him (apparently drunk) his successor, but didn’t, therefore he puts all the dogs on GDP.
    Moreover, here is the GDP and Russia, if there is no intelligence and ability to lead the country, but to be behind 30 sb at the grab of the overseas owners. Therefore, he has a place next to an elderly virgin, together to visit places of interest (such as the embassy) for salary and instructions.
    1. podpolkovnik
      podpolkovnik April 1 2014 15: 11
      +1
      Quote: vlad.svargin
      Nemtsov can’t forgive in any way that EBN promised to make him (apparently drunk) his successor, but didn’t, therefore he puts all the dogs on GDP.
      Moreover, here is the GDP and Russia, if there is no intelligence and ability to lead the country, but to be behind 30 sb at the grab of the overseas owners. Therefore, he has a place next to an elderly virgin, together to visit places of interest (such as the embassy) for salary and instructions.


      I sacrifice, I take it from my heart .....
  45. reality
    reality April 1 2014 14: 37
    +2
    Only you can not give them technology !!! Collect everything by yourself and sell almost at cost, but in no case give them technology !!!
  46. podpolkovnik
    podpolkovnik April 1 2014 14: 53
    0
    And here is another dissatisfied appeared:
    People's Artist of Ukraine and Crimean Sofia Rotaru does not want to be a citizen of the Russian Federation. According to her son Ruslan Evdokimenko, the performer refers herself to the Ukrainian people.
    As reported, Rotaru intends to remain a resident of Yalta, while having Ukrainian citizenship. The son of the singer said that, returning from the tour, she always strives to get into her cozy and beautiful house on the Black Sea. Also in Yalta, the Rotaru family has its own hotel called Villa Sofia. Owners are concerned about political changes that could affect the business.
    According to Ruslan, Sofia Mikhailovna is currently worried not because of money, but because of her belonging to the Ukrainians. Despite the fact that the singer hails from Moldova, she lived her entire conscious life in Ukraine.
    1. awg75
      awg75 April 1 2014 15: 12
      0
      Our Russian law requires that foreigners in Russia have their own business, but they must be led as foreign citizens. here is a mustache - let it be Ukrainian for God's sake. I hope that this singer’s independent concerts will be squeezed in Russia - let them sing on the Maidan
    2. thrower
      thrower April 1 2014 15: 17
      0
      Another "mouth singer". I generally thought she was Moldovan. Although Tymoshenko also considers herself a Ukrainian.
  47. awg75
    awg75 April 1 2014 15: 10
    0
    fifth column for permanent residence in developed democracies.
  48. Aldo
    Aldo April 1 2014 15: 13
    +1
    need to be friends, but certainly carefully.
    In general, it’s time for Russia to turn in the direction of the Asia-Pacific region. There are such opportunities for cooperation through the Far East. Not only with China, but also Japan, Korea, Vietnam, etc.
  49. mariya
    mariya April 1 2014 15: 13
    0
    I am afraid that we will not succeed in a balanced policy in cooperation with China. I agree that "everything depends on the effectiveness of domestic policy - even in alliance with China, at least separately."
    And to continue the degradation of the region, we are led by our local managers who have sold us to China for a long time and are not going to weigh their policies
  50. Leshka
    Leshka April 1 2014 15: 22
    +1
    together with China we will put amer cancer good