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Pessimistic side optimism

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Good day! Today I would like to talk about the situation that has developed among the masses. On a sharp patriotic rise.

After the annexation of the Crimea, everyone started talking about a turning point in stories. On the singular point of the beginning of the development of Russia. Some call it “collecting imperial lands”, others “restoration of the Soviet Union.” But I would advise to be more careful about such statements. I came to the conclusion: do we not overestimate this bright national takeoff, initiated by the sensational plebiscite? Quite often in history, and in life, we strongly hope for something, but this does not bring the expected result. This fact is marked by psychologists, people can simply re-fantasize.

One of the calls - talk around Alaska. How long have everyone wanted her back! Perhaps even from the sale itself, which, by the way, recently had an anniversary (March 30, 1867, the signing of the treaty in Washington). Sometimes, and now especially often, in social networks, speaking of Alaska, people do not even think about the very reason for selling. For that matter, you can remember about the whole of Russian America, and with it, in addition, the Elizabethan fortress (Hawaii). And also all Russian settlements on other continents.

Dear readers, well, do not go to extremes! Yes, the annexation of the Crimea is a major event, but it is not worth strongly idealizing everything. Of course, I hope that all this will serve as a catalyst for shifts in the development of the country, but everything will not be as fast and dramatic as it seems. Speaking of the notorious sanctions that threaten to introduce ... To deny the fact that without cooperation with the United States and the European Union we will have a hard time, ridiculous. Although we will get an impetus to the development of national industry, it would be as though our unprepared economy did not bend under such a burden. In addition, this confrontation is reduced mainly to the political squabbling and struggle of oligarchs, monopolists. All this without the hatred of the people themselves, the peoples. Although propaganda is doing its job, both for them and for us, this also should not be denied. There are many great people among Americans and Europeans, some of them are my acquaintances.

This is my reasoning about what is happening "metaphysical" jump self-consciousness. I ask you, after weighing all the pro and contra, soberly assess the situation.
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  1. JoylyRoger
    JoylyRoger April 1 2014 07: 52
    +19
    yes that's right. It’s time to start rolling up our sleeves too, much more work to be done. Really take on the economy. It would be nice for this to be done at the same time and to cancel the World Cup here.
    1. svetlomor
      svetlomor April 1 2014 07: 59
      0
      One of the bells is talking around Alaska.
      Dreaming so much about something big that trifles.
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 April 1 2014 09: 14
        +9
        Quote: svetlomor
        To dream so much about something big
        Our people live in reality, not in dreams. Euphoria ......... Euphoria will pass, weekdays will remain. And on weekdays we have an increase in pensions in April instead of the promised 3,3%, only 1,7%. our pensioners pay pensions to the Crimeans. Interesting is it not, gentlemen, "euphoric." The Anti-Crisis Fund will “go” 243 billion to Crimea, there are also pensioners and public sector employees, and they are still paying them according to Ukrainian tariffs, but they will have to increase, people will not understand. over the next 5 years will absorb significant funds, and you are Alaska, Transnistria, South-East. Would you like the country to start falling apart?
        1. Z.A.M.
          Z.A.M. April 1 2014 10: 03
          +2
          Quote: baltika-18
          Euphoria held


          Nikolai, welcome.
          I completely agree with your comment.

          I have ours HEYforists remind HEYforistic maidanutyh - the remainder (!!) will remain the same - disappointment.
          Behind all the Euphoricity, completely, that those of ours have stopped paying attention to
          Quote: baltika-18
          reality
          today.
          So, in passing, they "persuaded" Makarevich. Yes, I spoke, not how all. So what? Extra example aboutUnified State Examinationrespect for society. I am sure that if Vysotsky or Tsoi were in his place, they would also be trampled into the village.

          "Give me Crimea!" - oranul, and you are already a hero ... "our man" !!! laughing
          And this is nonsense: "The Prosecutor of Sochi fearlessly erected a four-story mansion in the Matsesta gorge, the photograph of which deprived the inhabitants of the capital's offices from sleep. And the head of the district administration in the Moscow region allowed himself heated asphalt at the entrance to the palace garage for five million dollars and did not want to pay for round-the-clock circulation of hot water in pipes laid under the asphalt ... "(Mikhail Kazakov 31.03.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX)

          Quote: baltika-18
          The euphoria will pass, there will be weekdays
          1. baltika-18
            baltika-18 April 1 2014 10: 29
            +7
            Quote: Z.A.M.
            Nikolay, I welcome
            Mutually, Anton. There are a lot of USE victims on the site. There are few dialogues, interesting comments, some slogans and stupid demotivators. Do you know how it will be soon? Who shouted “Hurray!” Louder than everyone else will shout “Down with you!" the beginning of the 20th century. A herd that does not have thoughts of its own is a double-edged sword, it is good for power only when it is full. Then it is manageable. And when the food is not enough, you need to look for an enemy. I wonder who will be appointed. This is the eternal problem of the aimless, deprived of the ideological component of society. All this is sad.
            1. Z.A.M.
              Z.A.M. April 1 2014 11: 05
              +2
              Quote: baltika-18
              Who shouted "Hurray!" The loudest of all, the loudest will shout "Down with!"


              I read your thoughts, and only a sigh - oh ...
              Reading your comments - I appreciate your position. Principally and honestly.
              ...
              And not bad you and me, recently "nominus" wink
              1. baltika-18
                baltika-18 April 1 2014 11: 15
                +2
                Quote: Z.A.M.
                And it's not bad for you and me, we recently "nominated
                It’s better to be a real honest lieutenant to yourself and people than a mindless virtual marshal floating in a jet.
                Quote: Z.A.M.
                Reading your comments - I appreciate your position. Principally and honestly.
                Similarly, I help as I can. hi
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            3. optimist
              optimist April 1 2014 13: 17
              +2
              Quote: baltika-18
              A managed herd of no thoughts is a double-edged sword, it’s good for power only when it’s full. Then it’s manageable. And when the hawk is not enough, you need to look for the enemy. . All this is sad.

              "Golden words, Pyotr Venediktovich !!!" the Americans, it seems, have again decided to pull off the trick with oil prices 30 years ago ... And if 23 years ago they managed to "knock off" the USSR, today's oligarchic thieves' Russia, "like two fingers on the asphalt." Looking at all this inflated "Crimean euphoria", all the time I recalled the statement of one warrant officer from our CS: "If you woke up and found four eggs in yourself, do not rush to rejoice: perhaps someone" settled "behind you !!! " laughing Personally, I don’t care: let the zombified putinoids “minus” me as much as you like, it makes me neither cold nor hot. It is much more sad that there are very few people trying to delve into the essence of things with their brains ... request
          2. Sma11
            Sma11 April 1 2014 11: 04
            +2
            Euphoria ......... Euphoria will pass, there will be weekdays

            If the movement is in the same vein (I do not mean Alaska, Transnistria, Southeast) in domestic politics. That people will understand. If they squeeze local kings, oligarchs and hucksters. If defined with a national idea. That people will not only understand, but also support.
            Crimea over the next 5 years will absorb significant funds

            Well, I'm sorry, we also invest in children and not 5 years, but more.
            1. Z.A.M.
              Z.A.M. April 1 2014 11: 20
              +6
              Quote: Sma11
              If dvizhuha will be in the same vein



              It IF are you still missing (?????)?

              Quote: Sma11
              If defined with national idea.


              WHO be determined? Putin or what? Well this, of course, is the problem ...
              Have you not decided yet?
              I made up my mind - let them "win"ppppa favor laughing
              And to begin with, "something" will be ratified ...

              These "if"already got it. And for a long time!
              1. Sma11
                Sma11 April 1 2014 15: 00
                0
                You know better. Judging by the news this year there is a "governor's" starfall.
              2. Sma11
                Sma11 April 1 2014 17: 22
                0
                I have made up my mind - let corruption "win"
                And to begin with, "something" will be ratified ...

                So shallow request
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            3. baltika-18
              baltika-18 April 1 2014 11: 59
              +5
              Quote: Sma11
              Well, I'm sorry, we also invest in children and not 5 years, but more.
              But who is it that’s why pensioners should be cut in the first place. It was possible to cut salaries to the Federation Council and the State Duma by half, to ministers and related structures. It would be very patriotic. But when it comes to money, the patriotism of the authorities disappears somewhere.
              1. Sma11
                Sma11 April 1 2014 15: 19
                0
                shtanko.49
                Is it possible to measure everything with money, I'm a pensioner, but whining about the fact that I was underpaid due to the fact that Crimea and Sevastopol is now ours, is a betrayal. Pride in not bending again is much more expensive than the dough, which for some is more expensive than honor, dignity, and other human factors. And such a military base is very expensive for our future and our children. And the faces of people, our Russian people, saw how they lit up with joy that they had returned to Russia, how can this be measured?

                By the way, I am also a pensioner and because of 500 rubles to tear the vest: "Give my money back to ...". Petty, however.
                But why pensioners should be cut in the first place. It was possible to cut salaries to the Federation Council and the State Duma by half, to ministers and related structures.

                From time to time this issue is raised in the State Duma, but they constantly break off. Legislature, "f ... t it in the stern"
          3. Manul
            Manul April 1 2014 11: 50
            +1
            Quote: Z.A.M.
            spoke out, not as in with e.

            Would Vysotsky allow himself this? Yes, you are a boor, my friend. There are limits "to be different." And we should not compare our euphoria with the Maidan. They overthrew the government. And they rejoiced at the next torch from an employee of the Berkut. An article with a stench. There is grain, and the bottom line is whipping up "suffering" and preparing the ground for dissatisfaction with the government. About Alaska, only the last idiot does not understand that this is such a national joke. the fact that butting with the west will force us to tighten our belts is also obvious. It is not clear what the author of the article wants to propose. We will not give Crimea back and say any more, just don’t need sanctions? Otherwise we are afraid that we will be left without chips and instead of a sandwich with caviar will have to eat with sausage? Or even pea porridge with breadcrumbs?
            It will be necessary - we will eat porridge. Only I personally do not intend to bend to the west (and I think they will support me), and the joy of reuniting with Crimea and Sevastopol should not be dirty with vile comparisons. angry
            1. optimist
              optimist April 1 2014 13: 22
              +4
              Quote: Manul
              It is unclear what the author of the article wants to offer. Give Crimea back and say we will no longer, just do not need sanctions?

              Don't exaggerate. Just the same, everything is clear: the author urges not to make hasty conclusions and engage in hating. Everything is not as simple and unambiguous as the federal media drummed into it. The annexation of Crimea is, of course, wonderful! But "in load" Russia received (at least) tens of millions of Ukrainians who hate it, our brothers in blood, faith and history. And this is more than serious ...
              1. Ruslan67
                Ruslan67 April 1 2014 17: 16
                +2
                Quote: optimist
                But Russia received (at least) tens of millions of Ukrainians who hate it,

                That is, nothing has changed request The previous 23 years, they dearly and faithfully loved us wassat
            2. Z.A.M.
              Z.A.M. April 1 2014 19: 36
              +1
              Quote: Manul
              Yes you are my friend boor.

              Hello.
              Is that why I am a boor? Well, ROMANOV, so called repeat And, for you, what am I - a boor?
              Quote: Manul
              About the fact that butting with the west will force us tighten belts - also obvious.

              Listen, this "neSTnya ", with belts ... you don't TIRED?
              Quote: Manul
              Give Crimea back

              Yes, of course - in no case! Who is talking about this? The author, and I support him, THINKS- what how FARTHER. He just thinks.

              Quote: Manul
              Only cave in personally, I do not intend to go west (and I think they will support me)

              There is no need to bend, the author does not call for this ...

              Quote: Manul
              And then
              And the smiley is aggressive ... Why? But the fact that? As maydanutye, without education, will you break my head? I can leave the address. I’ll just look into my eyes.
              1. Manul
                Manul April 2 2014 11: 22
                0
                Quote: Z.A.M.
                Is that why I am a boor?

                It may have gone too far, but I was very indignant that you cite the example of great people who cannot refute your assumptions for the reason that they are no longer alive. This is outrageous and blasphemous. I would pick up another epithet - yes, I was in a hurry to tell you.
                I don’t know about Tsoi (I think there’s someone to intercede for), but you were hurt by Vladimir Semenovich. Apparently you have heard little of his songs, you have not seen his films, you have not seen his performances at all, and you have little idea what kind of person he is.


                "Look, this" song "with belts ... Aren't you tired?
                In my opinion a very imaginative move, what bothers you?


                Quote: Z.A.M.
                He is just thinking.

                Here is the answer. You can “just think” in the comments. If a person writes an article, he must justify, propose, reason, identify the strengths and weaknesses of the questions. And so - just boltology, on the basis of which everyone also strikes to all extremes, since the author did not outline the outline, incentive, aspiration, goal. He came and said - "everything is fine, just not very much."


                Quote: Z.A.M.
                And the smiley is aggressive ...

                Smile is an interactive expression of mood. In no case can I translate it into reality. I, too, can honestly say - let's get out. But I’m unlikely to say anything like this here, unless it’s from the Maidan wink If I was too harsh, I ask you not to keep evil. Now is the time. With a touch of iron. hi
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      2. Ross
        Ross April 1 2014 12: 41
        +2
        In one I agree, Crimea is given to us as a chance, as an opportunity for the revival of the motherland. And everything will depend on us, our work, activity and perseverance to achieve the goal. It will not be easy, our Spirit will help us defeat. Do not slacken, fasten it in every way. Unity, in it is our strength.
    2. platitsyn70
      platitsyn70 April 1 2014 08: 06
      +1
      There is a lot of work, and future generations will have enough, and Ukraine will go crazy now and return to where they will go, who needs them in the West as equals, and there are enough to wash their toilets there, for this we must fight.
    3. Stalnov I.P.
      Stalnov I.P. April 1 2014 10: 29
      +2
      If our power misses the moment, then the price is worthless, everything fell into place, who is our friend and who is our enemy, Merkel’s example, this Gdrovskaya, Komsomol slut recognizes Kiev’s power, that is, the fascist power is talking about this. Conclusion - the development of its own economy, following the example of the USSR, access to a new industrialized lifestyle, by all means, both economic and administrative, the development of the most advanced technologies, taking into account the experience of the Soviet Union, other countries of China, India, etc. Then we can live in peace, they themselves will go to our friends, we have everything for this development.
  2. johnsnz
    johnsnz April 1 2014 07: 53
    +2
    In addition to the return of Crimea, a grandiose PRECEDENT was created in the world political system
    1. W_M
      W_M April 1 2014 10: 43
      +5
      Are you another victim of the exam?
      Precedent (from lat. praecedens - previous) - a case or event that has occurred in the past, and serves as an example or basis for similar actions in the present.
  3. mamont5
    mamont5 April 1 2014 07: 55
    +3
    Don’t you go, Artyom Alekseev, to ... Ukraine ?!
  4. Chifka
    Chifka April 1 2014 07: 56
    +10
    I agree, you need to slightly moderate the pace. We confine ourselves to southeastern Ukraine, Transnistria and Alaska. And the rest of the future subjects of the Russian Federation, even if a little longer, will be part of Europe, enjoy, so to speak, the last moments .... laughing
  5. NIVH
    NIVH April 1 2014 07: 57
    +14
    And what's wrong with patriotism? When was the last time people showed unity? I agree with Alaska bust, but for the rest I'm sorry. Russia has always tried to shut its mouth, as they showed that dog on the rug by the door ... I want to take a deep breath and not be afraid that I will hurt someone there. I would like to be respected, and some were afraid!
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  7. bubalik
    bubalik April 1 2014 07: 57
    +3
    ... an article with a "smell" brr ,,,, angry
  8. domokl
    domokl April 1 2014 07: 58
    +10
    Talking about Alaska is thought to be just talk ... Nobody will risk it now ... And there is no sense in returning it. We have so many undeveloped territories that not only grandchildren, but great great-grandchildren will have enough ...
    And economic cooperation? We, sadly it is for the EU and the US, they need it more than they need us. And that means a lot of chatter, and we will earn money anyway ... Otherwise, everything will only get worse
  9. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. April 1 2014 07: 59
    +8
    Sometimes, and now especially often, on social networks, talking about Alaska

    Do not take too seriously the desire of some to trolley the United States. Although in my eyes a holy cause.
  10. GRune
    GRune April 1 2014 08: 01
    0
    Dear readers, well, do not go to extremes!
    Author please listen to yourself!
    1. GRune
      GRune April 1 2014 18: 24
      0
      Dear comrades, if you minus, please kindly indicate your opinion!
  11. zzzeka
    zzzeka April 1 2014 08: 06
    +2
    And what has been preached in terms of ideology and ideas of the life of society over the past 20 years.
    Some kind of freedom and other, and other liberals ... in the end, everyone is free - no education, no medicine, no social sphere - freedom is everywhere. Sheer prostitution, home2, free choice for young people - to drink or to drink. Against the background of all the "freedoms", patriotic sentiments seem to be hysteria, for me this is a normal reaction of people who have been fed with freedoms for more than 20 years.
  12. Tra-ta-ta
    Tra-ta-ta April 1 2014 08: 08
    -5
    Artyom! We ordered a steak with blood for breakfast .. and you give us semolina ...!?!
  13. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN April 1 2014 08: 09
    +1
    So we hope on GDP, judging by the latest events, should steer! And if you continue to quietly "whine" in the corner, then this is not life, but existence! yes
  14. kvnvolga2008
    kvnvolga2008 April 1 2014 08: 13
    +4
    It is not possible to disagree with the author of the article. No need to rush to extremes and engage in hatred in your judgments!
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    3. parus2nik
      parus2nik April 1 2014 13: 50
      0
      Here 9 people disagree with me ..
  15. parus2nik
    parus2nik April 1 2014 08: 14
    -1
    I support the author .. the patriotic upsurge in 1914 ended with the February Revolution in 1917 .. The story develops in a spiral ...
    1. parus2nik
      parus2nik April 1 2014 08: 25
      +1
      Objections, please ... and then minus .. And although three years later, we'll see .. not long left ..
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets April 1 2014 08: 33
        +3
        Quote: parus2nik
        Objections please ...

        Please:
        I do not see a parallel between 1914 and 2014, except for the numbers 1 and 4 at the end of the date. In 1914, Russia climbed over the lands that were far away, in principle, helping the Slav brothers and no one considered the Balkans as future territories of the Republic of Ingushetia. It is as if we were now harnessing our army for Afghanistan against the amers. Today we returned our land and something is not heard of real (namely real) calls, even from inadequate congressmen, to start military operations against Russia.
        1. nikcris
          nikcris April 1 2014 10: 57
          +2
          Yes, the Balkans were not considered, considered the Dardanelles. wassat
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets April 1 2014 13: 28
            0
            Quote: nikcris
            Yes, the Balkans were not considered, considered the Dardanelles.

            Accession and control of the territory is not exactly the same thing, don't you find?
        2. parus2nik
          parus2nik April 1 2014 13: 47
          0
          Parallels ... yes, the figures have little in common .. But in July 1914 God sang, save the tsar! They massively went to the army, by September they dreamed of being in Berlin .. in February 1917 they shouted: Down with the autocracy! Now, in principle, there is also massive support for the president, God save the president! and other .. Crimea, Russia will not be forgiven .. And now the government, the main task, is so wise to conduct a policy, both internal and external, that would not be repeated February 1917 .. Yes, and that I explain to you .. You immediately understood .. but decided to object ..
    2. uhu189
      uhu189 April 1 2014 14: 07
      0
      It seems to me with a spiral you are wrong. The situation is fundamentally different. Outwardly, it may be somewhat similar, but if you dig deeper, then nothing in common. The revolution of 1917 was preceded by 1905, defeat in the Russo-Japanese War, revolution, attempts to democratize the country, anti-popular elite, indistinct foreign and domestic policies and openly weak power. Now of all this there is only the elite - but this is our misfortune at all times ... I will quote the words of Klyuchevsky: "The regularity of historical phenomena is inversely proportional to their spirituality."
  16. Stinger
    Stinger April 1 2014 08: 16
    +2
    If your sense of humor does not go well, publish your public publications in other public publications.
    1. dmb
      dmb April 1 2014 08: 52
      +8
      But the author is right, and if you carefully read the comments, you will find many victims of the Unified State Exam and the Internet, who are going to demand "ancestral lands" in all seriousness. True, they are unlikely to be able to show Alaska on a map, and even more so they have never heard of the justification for such requirements. And the question is not so simple. Who would be against the restoration of Russia within the borders of the USSR, but are there real opportunities for this? After all, when it comes to specifics, the aforementioned "victims" can say at most: "Putin knows how to do it." And he is just a man, he is not even a genius, but so ... smart.
      1. Z.A.M.
        Z.A.M. April 1 2014 09: 38
        +4
        Quote: dmb
        But the author is right

        I agree.
        To the author - respect, for courage doubts and a handshake.
        To you, DMB, similarly. hi

        Fairy tales, about - "gave" the Crimea Khrushchev, not only tired, but simply already disgusting to listen. IN USSR? Gave it? Personally, myself? Well, not all the same still go. laughing It's just that - S M E SH N O .

        Who knows about the true reasons for the transfer of the Crimea to the Ukrainian SSR? Who they do not knowthought about it? Or
        Quote: dmb
        many victims of the exam and the Internet,


        Recently, the son of Khrushchev, voiced such a version. Since the mid-50s, the construction of hydroelectric power stations began. The reservoir (it happened) was located on the territory of the Ukrainian SSR, hydroelectric power station - in the RSFSR. Each republic, as you know, has its own ministries, and also the USSR Ministry. Imagine SCALE construction sites, all approvals, etc. According to him, this was the reason - for the simplicity of construction, and, subsequently, the management of hydropower plants.
        WHO(????), then I could think ( laughing fool ) that Ukraine will "secede". It's like saying - your hand, in 20, 30, 40, 100 years will walk. Believe me? ..

        If someone knows, write. It’s good for everyone ... to know.

        And universal HEYPhoria, already got it. Indeed, by God, they are so similar to the uneducated ... but simply - BARANOV... Solovyov, the same, with his "Sunday evening" laughing which already lasts for a month.

        Maybe try - to think? ..

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  17. Cossacks
    Cossacks April 1 2014 08: 22
    +6
    I think it is necessary somehow.
  18. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 April 1 2014 08: 24
    +4
    from the Don.
    What kind of panic? Or sit quietly and wait for your pants to be removed from you? It is a fact that some global shifts, misfortune, bring our people together and then the devil is not our brother! Our grandfathers didn’t survive this, for which glory to them forever!
  19. Counter
    Counter April 1 2014 08: 30
    +2
    The author doesn’t seem to understand that the petition for Alaska with a good smell of ordinary fun! Well, the author is not friends with humor, what to do!
  20. Semenov
    Semenov April 1 2014 08: 34
    +3
    The capture of the Crimea was logically necessary to increase the political and military stability of the base of the Russian Navy - Sevastopol. Providing 2 million poor Crimeans is an extra necessary payment at the moment, which will only bring profit / profit.
    The Olympics, inexplicably, have a beneficial effect on the growth of spirituality and well-being of the nation that successfully hosted the Olympics. Look how they all fought on Makarevich and others like them, and the dollar is already falling ...
  21. darksoul
    darksoul April 1 2014 08: 38
    0
    So what about Alaska, we don’t need everything at once, later, in a couple of years it’s possible, no one is rushing anyone request
  22. MTenisov
    MTenisov April 1 2014 08: 39
    +1
    Sober thought, by and large. The main thing is not to start expecting some impossible changes at the moment. The author does not address the people in my opinion. The call to rejoice less will not arouse any warm feelings for the author and the article, although it is intended to make us think. Victories must be rejoiced. Otherwise, why then victory.
    The main thing is not to overdo it. 96% of our fellow citizens are glad to return Crimea with us. In my opinion, there is no need to immediately aim at Alaska or Transnistria or elsewhere. These are other stories. They will either be or not. But to demand these new joys from the state is not worth it. And then you can get hooked. And then give up on your winners.
    The jokes remain jokes, gentlemen. We must work on new victories!
  23. alicante11
    alicante11 April 1 2014 08: 55
    0
    Yes, it’s just that there have not been such serious successes for a long time, and here the people rejoice too emotionally. Do not take away people's joy. And the situation of the 17th year will not be repeated. GDP is not Slackyak Bloody; he will not hold OMON and the FSB by the hand, and he who quickly wants to be disappointed will quickly roll into the asphalt. He also did not forget the lessons of the 90s.
  24. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat April 1 2014 09: 27
    +8
    I completely agree with the author. "Shaprozakidatelstvo" will destroy us. I will cite my post from a neighboring branch, as it fits this topic as well:
    "I would not be so optimistic about the 'sanctions'. Americans and other Saxons are the ugliest creatures on earth - they have a disgusting property - once they start something, they bring it to the end, no matter what, even at a loss, they will do everything possible and impossible to punish the offender. Mark my word, nothing has yet begun for us. More precisely, it is just beginning. They can even officially introduce nothing, but act unofficially, setting up various obstacles, "fences" for those who cooperate or are going to cooperate with Russia. They operate through various "rating" agencies, international payment systems, etc. For a long time, an international system of pressure on "dissenting" countries has been created and created, which quite effectively slowly strangles the countries that are chosen as victims. Already, Russia is suffering enormous losses — many large foreign contracts have been frozen, investors are leaving our market — if last year the export of capital from Russia for the quarter did not exceed 60 billion. dollars, then only in the last two weeks the export amounted to more than 100 billion. "evergreen". Of course, many here on the forum believe that it’s okay, the USSR existed in such an environment and even for the worst decades — and nothing even flourished, but how deeply such people are mistaken! You can not compare the USSR and modern Russia - these are two completely different countries, different in everything, from the political system and economy to the people. The Soviet people, in no case, can not be compared with the modern philistine herd. To resist the West, which, to be sure, has now united against Russia, Putin needs to: change everything in his country, introduce a planned economy, create new governing bodies and self-government, revive the leadership and management cadres on the basis of patriotic forces, and not the party of "crooks and thieves ", as now, it is necessary to change the system of distribution of the national product and wealth in the country to a more open and fair one in the interests of the entire population, and not a handful of oligarchs and" confidants ", again to revive the educational system, already at the modern level, instead of the completely collapsed one" reformers ", change the" banking "system - remove absolutely all" commercial "banks, leaving only one state-owned, etc. etc. Only then will Russia be able to consolidate and survive the blockade that is already being created and which will be tightened and tightened by our so-called "partners". And all these activities should already be thought out and carried out now, without wasting time, but what do we actually see? Never mind. Again, we hear the "old song" about the fact that now the "world economy" and, like, everything is interconnected and there will be no harsh sanctions, as they will hit those who introduce them, what is needed, such as improve the "banking" system, introduce a national payment system, look for investors and sponsors, and so on. blah blah blah. So, gentlemen, seeing all this "empty delusion" and the position of our statesmen, like, but nothing terrible will happen, everything "will resolve itself", I am beginning to be tormented by bad presentiments about our future.
    1. artifox
      artifox April 1 2014 10: 06
      +3
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      I would not be so optimistic about the "sanctions". Americans and other Saxons are the most disgusting creatures on earth - they have a disgusting property - once they start something, they finish what they started, no matter what, even at a loss, they will do everything possible and impossible just to punish the offender. Mark my word - nothing has yet begun for us. More precisely, it is just beginning.

      Yes and figs with them. They lived perfectly without Omerika in the USSR. We will only win from the exit from the WTO. She bought gas from the USSR as a geyropa, and buys from Russia and will continue to buy it.
      Honestly, it’s better to let our agriculture rise and I will eat natural fruits and vegetables than the gay European GMOs.
      I agree to a certain shortage of goods. But if you look more radically, it’s not the 90s now and we can quite replace most of the import with our own resources. Well, let's not forget the BRICS.

      In general, I am behind the Iron Curtain from the United States. And I FSUs for all the sanctions that they can still impose.

      And at the expense of the article - definitely a minus. I have no euphoria, but for the second time in 23 years, I am finally proud of the country again. The first time it was in Abkhazia.

      And in the same way, everyone yelled, threatened with sanctions - and Cho?

      I repeat once again - I am ready for the Iron Curtain. And not only with the USA, but also with the geyropa. Oddly enough, the happiest years of my life I lived behind the iron curtain - without Coca-Cola, chips, tablets and American cinema.

      And they were all afraid of us. And I want to be afraid further !!!
    2. tokin1959
      tokin1959 April 1 2014 10: 46
      +1
      pictures with signatures look unpleasant - I asked Vova for CREAM, I will ask Vova for the BABY.
      the hardest is yet to come
  25. ed65b
    ed65b April 1 2014 09: 50
    +2
    The return of Alaska is not serious, although who knows how things will turn out in the future. we will have it in reserve. About the economy and development - for me there is an example, vivid and unforgettable. this is the time after our victory over fascism. The country is in complete ruin. 20 million loss of population, it would seem that everything is a collapse, but after all, we withstood and rebuilt the country from scratch. Here's an example to follow and what helped? I think not only the whip of the communists, but rather patriotism and will and hope. What we have is patriotism, with the reunification of Crimea we got it, we have finances, will and hope have always been in abundance. so it remains to get down to business with our sleeves rolled up. The main thing is not to succumb to panic, not to quit what you started when it’s difficult, and not to listen to the discord of the “experts” of the all-propals, and there will be darkness of them.
    1. Z.A.M.
      Z.A.M. April 1 2014 10: 28
      +2
      Quote: ed65b
      What we have is patriotism, we got it with the reunification of Crimea, we have finances, will and hope have always been in abundance. so what's left tackle things up
      laughing

      Quote: Monster_Fat
      Again, we hear the "old song" about the fact that now the "world economy" and, like, everything is interconnected and there will be no harsh sanctions, as they will hit those who introduce them, what is needed, such as improve the "banking" system, introduce a national payment system, look for investors and sponsors, and so on. blah blah blah.

      Well done Monster_Fat!

      Quote: ed65b
      Alaska Return -This is not serious, although who knows how everything will turn in the future

      Yes, and also, brains can clog up flights to the Moon, Mars laughing
      Ага.
      "... only now, in this beautiful country
      neither me nor you will have to live ... "


      Quote: Monster_Fat
      So, gentlemen, seeing all this "empty delusion" and the position of our statesmen, like, but nothing terrible will happen, everything "will resolve itself", I am beginning to be tormented by bad presentiments about our future. Oh, what a bad feeling!"


      In! Human thinks!
      1. Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat April 1 2014 12: 32
        +2
        So, you have to "think". The work is connected with frequent business trips to the "west" and therefore I see with my own eyes the hysteria that was raised there about the "annexation" of Crimea by Russia. And, what is typical, you will not believe, but the "first fiddle" in all this orgy is played by the Baltic mongrels and Poland, whose emissaries directly occupied Brussels demanding to "crush" the "reptile" - Russia. They howl at all voices, "you see, we warned you, Russia is insidious and two-faced and is only waiting for an opportunity to swallow all of Europe! Yesterday Abkhazia, today Crimea, and tomorrow Finland and the Baltic states!" Poland so that generally lives on the slogans of insurgents from the time of Kosciuszko - "even with the devil, if only against Russia!" And behind the back of this whole camarilla, the support of the "big brother" - the USA is clearly visible. For without the approval of the US State Department, these mongrels do not dare to vyaknut. However, one should notice some irritation of such countries as Germany and Italy, which really do not like the situation when all sorts of meaningless mongrel parasites, such as the Baltic countries, begin to take "the upper hand" and lead the entire European Union. For it turns out as in the saying: "it is no longer the dog wagging its tail, but the tail wagging the dog."
        1. Z.A.M.
          Z.A.M. April 1 2014 22: 05
          0
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          For it turns out as in the saying: "it is no longer the dog wagging its tail, but the tail wagging the dog."


          I read your comment - I agree.
          Especially
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          when all kinds ofmeaningless mongrel-country parasites, such as the Baltic, are beginning to take "the upper hand" and lead the entire European Union.


          It began to annoy me, namely to annoy, the holding of KVN in Jurmala. Why Russia their
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          insignificant mongrel-country parasites
          FEEDS ??? One KVN per year, it probably gives them (!) ... they are "fed for a whole YEAR"! WHAT FOR??
          I understand that actry (rishki) shl.yuhi, but where is "our" Pu?

          Oh, I know. As always - nothing to do with...

          Heard, they began to call - "Tavic"...

          Even though you Monster_Fat - shake your hand.
          I will read your comments. hi
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  26. mackonya
    mackonya April 1 2014 10: 31
    0
    Everyone forgets about the upcoming "Arctic War", if I may say so. Yes, of course, to speak openly and with full confidence about the return of the territory of "Alaska + Islands" may look too optimistic. But this is politics, if you keep the talks about "Alaska" in limbo, then you can speak more confidently in disputes about the ownership of the Arctic continental shelf. After all, if the United States participates in the dispute about the Arctic, it will only be based on the continuation of the Alaska continental shelf. The return of "Alaska", if at all possible, will be very difficult because there is a large military base Fort Wainwright (if I wrote the name correctly). But I would not like to take away the optimism from many here, even if there is no reason for optimism. Good luck to all!
  27. Monk
    Monk April 1 2014 10: 39
    +2
    I came to the conclusion: are we not overestimating this bright national take-off, initiated by the sensational plebiscite?


    No, do not overestimate.
  28. Lyynn
    Lyynn April 1 2014 11: 14
    -3
    Most of all I was amused that the temporarily occupied Crimea is called Russia only. You are so funny ...
    1. uhu189
      uhu189 April 1 2014 11: 42
      +1
      Well, amuse yourself, what else remains for you. And time - it will show what is temporary and what is constant
    2. Z.A.M.
      Z.A.M. April 1 2014 22: 19
      0
      Quote: Lyynn
      Most amused


      But this is also you "to amuse"?
      “During the Bandera actions, 399 Polish villages in Volyn were destroyed (in whole or in part), 218 in the Rivne region (in the northern part of the Rivne region - 25 villages), in the Ternopil region only in February 1945 — 50 villages. [Maslovsky. V. I. From kim and against whom the Ukrainian nationalists fought in the rock of the Other Holy War. M., 1999.]

      According to incomplete data, from September 1943 to December 1954, in the Volyn territory, 746 people were killed at the hands of gangsters from the UPA and OUN units in 8281 settlements of the region, of which 5099 were men, 2127 were women, and 1055 were children. Of these, 514 people died directly in the battles, while the rest were killed insidiously. In addition, 640 people were injured.

      By area, the picture is as follows:

      1. Vladimir-Volynsky (together with the city) - 2432.
      2. Gorokhovsky - 7403.
      3. Ivanichevsky - 3714.
      4. Stone-Kashirsky - 8695.
      5. Kivertsovsky - 7996.
      6. Kovelsky (together with the city) - 6227.
      7. Lokachinsky - 2008.
      8. Lutsky (together with the city) - 7519.
      9. Lyubeshovsky - 53410.
      10. Lubomlsky - 44611.
      11. Manevichsky - 108812.
      12. Ratnovsky - 33213.
      13. Rozhischensky - 21714

      During the period from 1944 to 1954, OUN gangs committed more than 3200 criminal offenses in Volyn alone, in which more than 8000 Soviet citizens were killed, hundreds of rural houses, many schools, clubs, premises of village councils, farm premises were burned. "



      yes ...
  29. shtanko.49
    shtanko.49 April 1 2014 11: 29
    +1
    Quote: baltika-18
    Quote: svetlomor
    To dream so much about something big
    Our people live in reality, not in dreams. Euphoria ......... Euphoria will pass, weekdays will remain. And on weekdays we have an increase in pensions in April instead of the promised 3,3%, only 1,7%. our pensioners pay pensions to the Crimeans. Interesting is it not, gentlemen, "euphoric." The Anti-Crisis Fund will “go” 243 billion to Crimea, there are also pensioners and public sector employees, and they are still paying them according to Ukrainian tariffs, but they will have to increase, people will not understand. over the next 5 years will absorb significant funds, and you are Alaska, Transnistria, South-East. Would you like the country to start falling apart?

    Is it possible to measure everything with the money, I am a pensioner, but whining about the fact that I was underpaid because Crimea and Sevastopol is ours now is a betrayal. The pride of not bending again is much more expensive than the money, which for some are more expensive than honor, dignity and other human factors. Yes, and such a military base is very expensive for our future and our children. And the faces of people, our Russian people, saw how they lit up with joy that they returned to Russia, how can this be measured?
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 April 1 2014 12: 18
      +1
      Quote: shtanko.49
      Is it possible to measure everything with money,
      In our country, a system in which everything is measured by loot.
      Quote: shtanko.49
      , I am a pensioner, but whining about the fact that I was underpaid due to the fact that Crimea and Sevastopol is now ours, is a betrayal
      The question here is not about 120 rubles, which they did not pay, but lies, hypocrisy and arrogance of power. It was in mid-March that it was publicly announced that no social program would suffer. That means they were lying. And this is only the beginning,
      Quote: shtanko.49
      .And the faces of people, our Russian people, saw how they lit up with joy that they returned to Russia, what can be measured with this?
      When they are faced with the realities of Russian life, the euphoria will disappear. There is an option that they can create special conditions and everything will be fine, some kind of front window. But then we get a reason for hatred from the residents of other regions. And in our country envy and hatred and so on already plenty. The system, what do you want? The dreams of Mr. Fursenko come true, educated the consumer society. Putin’s friend since 1991, he, this is for reference that I thought better.
    2. Manul
      Manul April 2 2014 11: 34
      0
      Quote: shtanko.49
      Is it possible to measure everything with the money, I am a pensioner, but whining about the fact that I was underpaid because Crimea and Sevastopol is ours now is a betrayal. The pride of not bending again is much more expensive than the money, which for some are more expensive than honor, dignity and other human factors. Yes, and such a military base is very expensive for our future and our children. And the faces of people, our Russian people, saw how they lit up with joy that they returned to Russia, how can this be measured?

      Thank you! good hi So there aren’t enough such words, otherwise they’ve bred a swamp, pussy riot and friends as if ..
  30. nikcris
    nikcris April 1 2014 11: 30
    +2
    Quote: artifox
    .
    I agree to a certain shortage of goods. But if you look more radically, it’s not the 90s now and we can quite replace most of the import with our own resources. Well, let's not forget the BRICS.


    Well, what is the deficit from Europe or, especially, America?
    Now, hopefully, my wife has returned from Spain. Brought a suitcase of junk. Including me. Moroccan jacket, sweaters from Bangladesh and Indonesia, jeans from PAKISTAN !!! All under the "world" brands. Even the souvenirs, on closer examination, were not Spanish.
    Go to any home electronics market. 90% - China.
  31. VladimS
    VladimS April 1 2014 11: 34
    +1
    Then we can live in peace, they themselves will go to our friends, we have everything for this development.

    We don't need such "friends".
    As Russia weakened-to bite and snatch .. all the more. As little as it goes on the rise - so they climb into friends. On someone else's hump ... Friends are in trouble! No wonder it says!
  32. uhu189
    uhu189 April 1 2014 11: 39
    +2
    Let me leave a comment. It is good that the author has brought up this issue for discussion, has raised a plus, although not in everything I agree with him. Of course, hating is very bad, and underestimating opponents is even worse. But in fact, there are still grounds for optimism - for the first time, the country's leadership defended its interests despite tough pressure. This has not happened since the days of the USSR. And it pleases. I think for any sane person it will be clear that the sanctions will certainly work on us (whatever they say on TV). And of course the effect will be negative, at least it will lead to higher prices. But this is an inevitable consequence if we want to build an independent country. And this will be the only real incentive for the development of their own sectors of the economy. And the stronger the sanctions, the more chances that we will be able to do something of our own, this is again an inevitable stage. The fact that many do not understand this is not scary, the main thing is that the country's leadership and people responsible for making decisions understand this. I am convinced that they understand this. For our "elite" after what happened there is no way back, the Rubicon has already been passed, and they are in the same boat with us with all, whether they like it or not. And if they want to survive and stay at the same level, they will have to work for the good of this country. But again, not everyone understood this. So, for my part, I can reassure the author - the process has gone in such a direction that no one can change it.
  33. VladimS
    VladimS April 1 2014 11: 40
    +1
    Everyone forgets about the upcoming "Arctic War", if I may say so. Yes, of course, to speak openly and with full confidence about the return of the territory of "Alaska + Islands" may look too optimistic. But this is politics, if you keep the talks about "Alaska" in limbo, then you can speak more confidently in disputes about the ownership of the Arctic continental shelf.

    Now everyone is preoccupied with staking out territories for themselves ... Before real large-scale developments, quite a lot of time will pass. It is much more difficult to organize production there than in more southern places. Yes, and a possible accident will cost our planet ecologically.
  34. Cristall
    Cristall April 1 2014 12: 02
    +1
    finally sobriety began to conquer euphoria ...
    (this is me in the comments)
  35. AlexA
    AlexA April 1 2014 12: 30
    +2
    Quote: Monster_Fat
    I completely agree with the author. "Shaprozakidatelstvo" will destroy us. I will cite my post from a neighboring branch, as it fits this topic as well:

    I support Monster_Fat. A very timely comment. Directly removed from the tongue. Therefore, I will not quote my approximately similar post from a neighboring branch.
    And many members of the forum completely unjustifiably took root on the author of the article.
    Of course, you need to enjoy success. But it is too early to enter into tenderness. The author is about it!
    We still have many unresolved issues. And there are a lot of people who, covered with ostentatious enthusiasm, will try to divert attention from solving these problems. Not disinterested at all.
    Therefore, I urge thinking forum users not to minus the sound warnings of Z.A. or baltika, and shake your head, and prepare for difficulties.
  36. cyberhanter
    cyberhanter April 1 2014 12: 58
    +2
    in general, the author’s opinion is partially true in my opinion. That is, he is right that the majority simply cheers, but does not think that since our country has decided to behave this way, it has challenged the West, a challenge of a new level, and you will have to pay for it. And so that our country not only withstands, but also triumphs in the confrontation, we will have to strain hard and begin to suffer. Yesterday I was not able to order equipment from my favorite European store, due to the sanctions against Russia. A trifle? Maybe a trifle, but there will be more and more of them.
    Hooray comrades! But remember that you have to pay for everything. I will be glad if our country rises, but the West will spoil our lives as soon as it can and it will hit us the most, ordinary residents