News from friends from Odessa. In Ukraine, all the happier to live

At the beginning of euromaidan (for the New Year holidays), good friends from Ukraine came to visit us. They live near Odessa, they have a small business and at that time they fiercely defended the right of the people of Ukraine to overthrow their president, even by violent means. In the general opinion of them, as I understood at that moment, reflected the universal prevailing in that country. Since then we didn’t have any particular disagreements (like the Crimea), we didn’t go deep into this question.

And today I, first with surprise, and then with some surprise, I learned from Russian relatives of my Ukrainian acquaintances that they constantly get in touch with them by phone and each time news worse and worse. You know, it's one thing to read Vershinin’s blog about how Ukraine squeezes business, beat objectionable people on a white day, and burn out dissenters at night - here the habit of “dividing everything by sixteen” and writing off some messages on the intrigues of the elusive “Kremlin propaganda” work, thereby reassuring yourself somewhat. But to hear something completely different from people whom you know well and who supported euromaidan, that in their town they rush into the houses of Russians, they beat them, take away everything that can be taken away and thank God that they are not killed yet. Moreover, these phenomena have acquired such a precipitous nature there, that my acquaintances are already collecting belongings and are planning to arrive in Russia for permanent residence in the near future, leaving everything they can’t take with Nezalezhnaya Square.

Now for us personally, the question is no longer “to divide information about pogroms in Ukraine into 16” - now I believe that the 100 part of those tragedies that occur in this country every day does not reach us either. And I’m even afraid to imagine that my friends will tell you very soon, coming here and not fearing that they will be overheard by the guys from the Right Sector.

Comments

[andrei332809]

impunity makes the crime even "tastier" for Banderlog. but, I beg your pardon, these are not crimes, this is expropriation for the needs of the sacred Maidan

[Vi_RUS]

Everyone already understood, and before Ukraine, like a giraffe!

[Stalker]

In addition, for those who have not yet understood ... .....

[rolik]

Quote: Stalker

In addition to those who have not yet understood ..

I will allow myself one more addition to this photo. Map of Europe and the European Union in an unusual perspective)))) Please remove the children from the screen)))))

[Vi_RUS]

Well, you have a fantasy, my friend!

[rolik]

Quote: Vi_RUS

Well, you have a fantasy, my friend!

[Apologet.Ru]

I live in Ukraine and I will honestly say that in the provinces I learn about everything that happens in the country and abroad (both good and terrible), like everyone else, on TV and in news feeds on the internet. And we, as we lived before, are living without any changes - without seeing either the Russian invader or the bloodthirsty Bandera - just do not tell me that this is bad. Not?

[nizrum]

Definitely good. But they’ll divide the groats and they will come to you too (((

[Apologet.Ru]

Elephant mice do not trample, he ....

[progressor73]

And God forbid that everything was calm and good.

[Apologet.Ru]

I wrote in December last year that -
Against the background of the ongoing Maydown Sabbath of the Euro-Zombies, the feeling of an approaching disaster does not leave me - the collapse of the Civilization created by our ancestors during the 7521 year from the Creation of the World, a civilization called Northern or Russian.
The collapse of the Soviet Union, which lasted only 74 of the year since the October Revolution, is considered the largest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century.
74 years and 7521 years, the difference is 7447 years.
Seven thousand five hundred twenty-one years of history and development, sweat and blood of Russia thrown into the dustbin of history ?!
It does not fit in the head.
How then, after realizing what happened, will we call this?
If now, in 22 of the year, the majority of residents of the republics of the former USSR express the most impartial epithets to Gorbachev, or, more simply, they swear as soon as they can, what will we call those who betrayed the centuries-old aspirations of Russia?
After all, with one movement of a pen under the agreement on the association of Ukraine with the EU, as from the category of a fraternal country for Russia, Belarus, it will turn into the category of "friendly", i.e. will become an adversary (not an enemy!), like Poland, for example, or Romania.
Or does someone think that after ratification Ukraine will be able to pursue an independent policy or “sit on two chairs” of the EU and the CU, standing in opposite corners, simultaneously? - I’m afraid that Nenko’s buttocks will not be wide enough - and even the Geyropey perverts of all colors are not asleep.
And after that, will Ukraine return to the historical path of its development?
When will the new Bogdan Khmelnitsky appear and the Pereyaslavskaya Rada will meet? Who knows?!
And if he returns, then the soul of betrayal will still remain ...

[renics]

The year 7521 is the time of development of the common human civilization according to the Bible, but the Russian one is about the 7th century AD, that is, from the birth of Christ, I will not bother to calculate how much it is from the creation of the world. This is not to be confused.

[smoke]

wrong answer

[core]

He studied well at school, tell me, and in the 7th century, where did the Russians come from? until the seventh century, there were no Russians, but in the seventh immediately the OPPA. we are. history is not degenerate textbooks. the head is given to think. think.

[aina01]

What bible? what is the development of common human civilization? what the hell are you talking about? Now 7522 summer (SUMMER, not a year) from the Creation of the World in the Star Temple, these are Vedic concepts, given by our first ancestors, and not the Jewish book about Moses and K. The darkness is zombie

[cozy]

Quote: aina01

not a Jewish book about Moses and K.

Do not blaspheme, please!

Quote: aina01

it’s 7522 summer (SUMMER, not a year) from the Creation of the World in the Star Temple, these are Vedic concepts, given by our first ancestors

Can you tell me the source (for a change)?

Quote: aina01

Zombie darkness

Likewise, you can name people who perceive various "KNOWLEDGE" without properly studying the sources of this knowledge. Read source studies.

[renics]

The sectarians are not going to answer anything, everything that the sects claim is not connected with pure science, natural science. Tell me, in the 7th century, where did the Russians come from?
in written sources on archeology, the Slavs are mentioned in the VI-VII centuries, these are the earliest, no longer found. Well, when did the Russians appear? maybe at your own time, if the age of the earth is 4 billion years, choose any, you can even say that in the days of ancient Egypt or even earlier in the days of the Sumerians or even in the times of Atlantis 12 thousand years ago. Zombie darkness: .Here, highly educated sectarians have apparently gathered.

[papas-57]

'' What Bible? what is the development of common human civilization? what the hell are you talking about? now is the 7522 summer (SUMMER, not a year) from the Creation of the World in the Star Temple, these are Vedic concepts, given by our first ancestors, and not a Jewish book about Moses and K. Zombie darkness '' In which psychiatric hospital is the open day?

[Dock]

Loud exposure of Arseniy Yatsenyuk in the Ukrainian press: journalists found out that the signing of an agreement with the European Union in Brussels, advertised by the prime minister, was a dummy.

About this newspaper "Mirror of the week."

“There is nothing to rejoice at. With the Agreement, they did the same as with Ukraine - on a far-fetched pretext, they took and cut off a substantial part. On March 21, the “political part” of the document was not signed in Brussels — only a miserable “stub” was signed, the publication said.

As the author of the article clarifies, the signed agreement does not even mention that Ukraine can count on EU membership in the future.

[sergeschern]

"" To sit on two chairs "of the EU and the CU" - There is such a saying: "If you sit on two chairs, the main seam may burst," which Ukraine has confirmed.

[DimychDV]

The smell of politicians in all countries is usually the same, only some use advanced cosmetics. The people of Ukraine were brainwashed with political husks, and none of the honest people wanted to kick any trash from the Maidan. I am worried about one thing: did the Maidan really begin with an honest desire to throw off the snickering Yanyk? Why did they let the "honest" pro-Western politicians leave? It seems to me nevertheless that the ALL action was planned under the Galician "paid volunteers" - read mercenaries, and if you consider what currency was used to pay them, then hirelings. "Huh, huh, the guys are earning money!" Some, however, also had to be buried - after sniper exercises.
And one more trend. If EVER. Kieve. It turns out sane authority. She would be better off eliminating the Maidan as a topographical and physical concept. To build a plant there, or a ministry - and on ALL of the square. Even canceling the traffic there. Since the tendency - to go to work on the Maidan - from election to election is ever wider and more fateful for the authorities. And more destructive for the economy.
Someone here has already hung a photo poster, which the maydanutyes have achieved (I myself am not able), now it can be generalized: “The police are not needed. The Crimea was given. The army is in the Dupa. Street - to bandits Business - extortion Power - to armed thugs Gas - according to Euro prices With Russia - spread to the trash Euro-tranches - into pockets of power (otherwise what was the point of fighting for power?) Press - censorship. - not just a bolt, but increased taxes and all kinds of payments. Russian-speaking - threats. Those wishing to go to work - visas. " What else is there?

[alexx83]

In general, it is true. But there is a small nuance - there is "don’t bathe the Russian" and twitching bodies in the supermarket, there is a picket near Sberbank or a gas station, there is an attempted raider takeover under the guise of "protecting strategic lenses", flags on cars and "patriots" who remembered that they have a state that Putin wants to take over ... and a small but real likelihood that these are flowers. In addition, the people for the most part did not really understand all the "charms" of anarchy - you can loot with impunity, rob, burn competitors, kill, rape - the police will not scratch.
"Do you see Bandera? - No. - And he is ...)))))"

[saha471]

It's good. Like the lack of water on the floor during a flood for residents of a high floor. But, if the trend continues, it will surely splash underfoot. And the "hut on the edge" will float away ...
Law. If boiling has begun in some place, with continued heating, the process will spread to the entire pan.

[gfnhbjnrf]

my friends live in villages in Transcarpathia, they say everything is going on, as always, in its normal course, nothing happens. May God grant.

[wow]

Well, actually, it is. While !? Here we have in the province, Nikolaev region. grandmothers say that "VVP and its KGB are personally to blame for the Maidan. For 23 years the brains of the people have been dirtied — there is nowhere else. But local" patriotism "ends where his sofa ends. Dali Bude !!!

[dropout]

Quote: Apologet.Ru

And we, as we lived before, live so without any changes - not seeing either the Russian invader or the bloodthirsty Bandera

I, too, are not in the capital, but my heart is sad and sad; the consciousness of the fact that the evening does not let go.

[Vi_RUS]

Well here is another addition

[rolik]

Quote: Vi_RUS

Well here is another addition

Well, right, we need to work harder))) so that the pan does not get angry))))) Decent work for worthy "new" Europeans.

[asar]

yeah! that's cool! children were removed from the screen (but adults are bastard!)!

[Mih]

(but adults bastard!)!

And who is an adult in Ukraine lovely?
Neondertaltians - this is the main contingent of ukrov.

[vell.65mail.ru]

The Euro Asset lacks more brains.

[Anatolich]

Something sluggish some member of NATO.

[Nick]

Quote: Anatolich

Something sluggish some member of NATO.

And in NATO, all members are sluggish ...

[120352]

There is such a diagnosis: "Political impotence". Do you need illustrations? Look at Obama.

[Mih]

Something sluggish some member of NATO. [quote] [/ quote
I do not want to be banal - but a flaccid penis is a diagnosis. To the sex therapist.

[bubalik]

,,,, in the same piggy bank ,,,

[47609388]

HERE and ate

[aleks 62]

.... Scho ne evening ....

[Dock]

It was clear from the very beginning, many began to open their eyes, but isn’t it too late? Gina was released from the bottle, but you can immediately see who is who!

[Zeus]

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[gfhjkm]

add too.

[Gloria45]

Somehow we don’t very often recall another country.
I began to search for information about Iceland because in
France is a state in, as it were, almost banned.
Due to the fact that this country is the most democratic,
in the good sense of the word, in Europe, if not all over the world,
here on her and imposed an information taboo.
[media = http: //www.ntv.ru/novosti/867339/]

Interesnij Reportaj

[Mih]

Somehow we don’t very often remember another country


Iceland is a Viking country that has not undergone Europeanization. EUROZHOPA is an iron curtain for the European civilization. The paradox of the modern world.

[Egen]

Quote: gloria45

that country is the most democratic
in the good sense of the word, in Europe, if not all over the world,
here on her and imposed an information taboo.

Yes, with IMHO Iceland is simple - what to take from it except for the bases, which are already nearby in Greenland? Therefore, no one needs it. But if you would have found oil there ..... :)

[wulf66]

I have a double attitude towards the Ukrainians ... They are Slovenian brothers (this is without question), but where can I get the impression of the 1991 referendum?

[Mih]

They are Slovenian brothers.
They have not been brothers to us for a long time - they are enemies.

[White53]

And you are not sent to us !!! Something smells of rot from your speeches !! Brother he is brother !! There are also hard-educated, hard-to-learn relatives !! However, it’s all the same kindred !!!

[ant.as. 1985]

Enemies are people like you, in our country, for example, "you" are called Banderas.

[maximus235]

Good movie.

[sergius60]

Only now, dear ones, on what dates are the days of independence celebrated in Russia and Ukraine? FIRST (!) Russia sent all the n.a.kh.u., they wiped themselves off and announced that they really wanted to. I am 53, and I remember this circus very well. Yes, the sprats squealed as if they had not been cut, they wanted to go to Europe. But we, in Zaporozhye, received a "fact" from Boryunya. And where to go, really sent to ........

[97110]

At 53, it's time to think a little. The body movements "I'll catch a cold - you will be worse" are somehow strange at your age. What can I say about Borya? Nobody remembers his kind word. And now who is to blame - Putin and the "bloody gebnya"? Yes, it has been 20 years since I have been going to Ukraine, so I shudder. Has Borya posted "Give" signs to you on the roads? On March 8, "Khortitsa" was on the table. Well, it does not go like a glass - so into a burp. So I see that they are twisting the damned m from the bottle ... If they sent you, then go. Just pay for gas.

[97110]

At 53, it's time to think a little. The body movements "I'll catch a cold - you will be worse" are somehow strange at your age. What can I say about Borya? Nobody remembers his kind word. And now who is to blame - Putin and the "bloody gebnya"? Yes, it has been 20 years since I have been going to Ukraine, so I shudder. Has Borya posted "Give" signs to you on the roads? On March 8, "Khortitsa" was on the table. Well, it does not go like a glass - so into a burp. So I see that they are twisting the damned m from the bottle ... If they sent you, then go. Just pay for gas.

[Tig_1971]

And your referendum in 91 for the independence was 90% voted for! I remember the same thing, even though 11 years younger than you. The older brother has a friend from Western Ukraine (Kingdom of Heaven, Jura Chepel), as he tumbled then - Shaw, Russia oppresses Ukraine! mustache zila! After 2 years, everyone went to shuttle ... And lard, and colored dishes and everything that was read Nenka is rich - take it, be affectionate, just give three dollars!

[Lunic]

I completely agree with your comment. Sam shuttled in a year. With a companion (both served in the Donetsk police), they traveled to Rostov and Taganrog on weekends. Linen sheets brought there, slippers pillowcases warm and matches back!

[Tig_1971]

And your referendum in 91 for the independence was 90% voted for! I remember the same thing, even though 11 years younger than you. The older brother has a friend from Western Ukraine (Kingdom of Heaven, Jura Chepel), as he tumbled then - Shaw, Russia oppresses Ukraine! mustache zila! After 2 years, everyone went to shuttle ... And lard, and colored dishes and everything that was read Nenka is rich - take it, be affectionate, just give three dollars!

[Lunic]

I voted for an independent Ukraine. He believed (naively) that it would be better. Then the leadership taught us: We’ll disconnect, we’ll stop sending all the money to Moscow, we’ll all be left to us, we’ll live humanly. Russia has never blamed anything. In the USSR, we were taught the bosses to believe ... So they believed! They fed their kings.
By the way, similar slogans are now used in South-Eastern Ukraine .. They say we are hard workers, we feed the lazy people zapadentsev ...

[asar]

in many ways, what is happening now in Ukraine resembles Tajikistan during the civil war of the early 90s!

[Paranoid50]

Quote: asar

in many ways, what is happening now in Ukraine resembles Tajikistan during the civil war of the early 90s!

The cold summer of the 53rd ...

[Egen]

Quote: asar

about much that is happening now in Ukraine, reminds Tajikistan of the times of the civil war of the beginning of the 90x!

I don’t know I wasn’t there, but it would be nice not for Kyrgyzstan 7 years ago ... :(

[311ove]

Many supporters of the Maidan seem to fail to realize that the Nazis are BAD in any case ..... govorish_zutra because they will come to you - "you don’t understand anything ...." Who zombified them there so much ??! People seem to be adults, but it's bad that it doesn't reach, when it comes, there may already be a lot of blood and all sorts of troubles ...

[Vi_RUS]

Inform war in action! They will understand only when it is too late and food will leave the shelves in the stores and hyperinflation will break out! Everything was done with us in the 90s, but who else but we should know

[sergaivenski]

Dear Forum member, Good evening !!! When the desperate population begins to sweep away literally everything from the store shelves, then people will think: why did they overthrow Yanukovych ??? Why did they allow JUNTA, supported by the US and the European Union, to settle in Kiev ??? court of KIEV: "Yulia, Yulia" ??? What they fought for and ran into it !!! A whole bunch of swindlers wanted to get POWER !!! These very adventurers simply do not give a damn about the common people of Ukraine !!! I will not be surprised if the coup is already trading Ukraine wholesale and retail !!!

[aleks 62]

Why were they shouting under the windows of the Pechersk Court of KIEV: "Julia, Julia" ???
..... They are right now yelling the same !!!!!

[platitsyn70]

these are people, those people whom we call Thomas an unbeliever, until they fucking on the head, they don’t believe in anything, they hang noodles and believe them, they are told MMM there is no scam they carry the last money there. The EU neon sign is a SCAM, but no, let's go see, and suddenly a freebie, no freebies want to work 12-14 hours for a pittance ahead of the EU.

[Berkut-UA]

Talked with classmates living in Kiev
on Obolon and on Borshchagovka (who does not know the city - the outskirts - sleeping areas)

Both said that they did not have fascists and that I came up with everything,
since they didn’t show this on local TV, it means it doesn’t exist.

They were indignant at the fact that I support Russia - the aggressor and not Ukraine, where I was born and raised.
All my talk about the fact that I am not against Ukraine and the Ukrainians but against the fascist Bandera-do not understand and do not want to understand.
And what a pity that people with education are so stupid.

[romaskadarv]

You, of course, from across the ocean, know better :-) You, of course

[Sma11]

Because war, because goosebumps,
Because it’s dark, I’ll save my skin,
I mingle with the crowd, I'm the same, the same, the same
I am not wider in the shoulders and no higher than everyone in the ranks.
And I will be the ninth on the day when every tenth
(And the only first one, of course, but that doesn't count)
It will be called forward, and then for a long time the soldiers
Before you kill, they will beat with boots in the stomach.
I won’t go out of the cramped closet into a wide field,
Where is the man with the brush and where the clouds covered the moon
I mingle with the crowd, I will be calmer underground
Waiting for your life, your life, not your war,
Survive these thirty and forty, and how many will have to,
And mingle with the earth so that painful fear dies,
The gate creaks, as in childhood, and I rise from the well
On some strange indifferent unnecessary hands.

[Yasondinalt]

Strong! And honestly!

[Berkut-UA]

This will happen on the eve of the Great Ukrainian Revolution by October 2014

[Sergey Vl.]

Today on TV in the program of Vladimir Solovyov, one political scientist said that a generation of fascists had been brought up in Ukraine for twenty years. Good "power"!

[Elena Nastina]

The post-revolutionary situation in Russia awaits 1932-39.
What to reproach the people of Ukraine. Let's take a look at ourselves, and WE “didn't notice it either”.
Before the last elections, my son-in-law and I argued, almost to the point of hoarseness: I am for Putin, I need stability. And he (the son-in-law) was also "duped" - a thief on a thief, driving a thief. But what do I care how much money Putin has, he’s already accumulated, now he sets other goals, but I don’t need to feed a new gang, sort out in a stupid hope "maybe this is better."
Politics and political workers are the same everywhere. Perhaps that is why the question of autocracy (emperor, king, prince, king) arises, once and for all. I think this is wise, afterwards there is someone to ask. And it’s like in the market: no, I don’t like it, I’ll go look for another. And what made us stormy?: Every 4 years we elect a new gang, but in general there was fun.

[Reasonable, 2,3]

Guys, don’t worry, I again drew a business trip. Not on an independent, side by side. We’ll fix it over time.

[Sergh]

Quote: Reasonable, 2,3

Not in an independent, side by side. Everything will be fixed over time

Is it possible in more detail, about "fix"?

[Reasonable, 2,3]

SVD. The first T-5000s arrived. We’ll try.

[rolik]

Quote: Reasonable, 2,3

.The first T-5000 arrived. Let's try

Hit the eye do not spoil the skin

[Baloo]

I beg the scum Bendera not in the eye, there are other places. Let them feel in the end: what is life and what is death. And how you want to live for those whom they tormented. forced to suffer, killed with impunity ..

[radio operator]

Quote: Balu

I beg the scum Bendera not in the eye, there are other places. Let them feel in the end: what is life and what is death. And how you want to live for those whom they tormented. forced to suffer, killed with impunity ..

[Rattenfanger]

Quote: rolik

Hit the soldier's eye, don't ruin the skin yes

What are you talking about? These devils have a skin full of holes for a long time.)))

[Shuriken]

You already keep us informed .... And then the media, they are such media ....

[sv68]

god help

[vell.65mail.ru]

Do not spoil the skin when you try SVD.

[polite people]

Already. The thing is normal. Or just super.

[siberalt]

With such a thing you can do without a trip

[Baloo]

Good luck, health, patience.

[f.laurens]

I can only wish good luck

[nika407]

This is the earnings of the guys from PS.

[GRANATE-19]

Quote: andrei332809

impunity makes the crime even "tastier" for Banderlog. but, I beg your pardon, these are not crimes, this is expropriation for the needs of the sacred Maidan

Every time they have "muidan" - the priesthood and the priesthood !!! I can imagine what will happen next, and how will they deal with those who disagree (as I think, the blood runs cold) !!! Respectfully, I express my humble opinion.

[Dock]

But the next Maidan, the authorities will water in China, in due time, then they will no longer allow a precedent ....

[Deadmen]

by the way, Yarosh came to the funeral Muzychko on an expensive armored car expropriated from his son Yanukovych))

[radio operator]

Quote: Deadmen

by the way, Yarosh came to the funeral Muzychko on an expensive armored car expropriated from his son Yanukovych))

[Dock]

He must be cleaned up ... 1.much knows what prevents the oligarchs.
2. Snout in the blood, everyone is disowning him now ...
As the saying goes: the Moor has done his job, the Moor may leave!
In the history of mankind, not a single revolution did not do without rivers of blood ... the ordinary principle of dominoes! Who came to power, will clean up the space around him!

[KZWULYANOV]

It is time to stop bullying the Soviet People and revive the Soviet Union - the Union of Brotherly Native Peoples !!! How many Western blue can conduct experiments on Soviet People with the filing of Judah - Gorbachev - Yeltsin? There is a single Soviet people and it will be! Despite everything - we are in the eyes of the blue-sky - scoops. So let everything - and this is not more than 5 - 8% of the garbage move to the West they adore and merge with it in ecstasy, and experiment there. After the next occupation, the Soviet People will unite, revive and create an even more powerful Power with Higher spiritual principles, pure Human relations as the United Soviet People — the Winner !!!

[tilovaykrisa]

The Holy Maidan will devour those who created it, who rejoiced at his arrival, silently empathized with him, openly and secretly supported him, the story goes in a circle.

[Ivan 63]

Yes, dear, do you still think that in the USSR they blatantly lied about Western rascals, but in fact they are "white and fluffy"? You are a naive person. Look at what such complacency and faith lead to, including our media in a very recent time. However, even now the positions of our fifth column are not completely broken and, to my regret, are strong enough.

[Ivan 63]

Yes, dear, do you still think that in the USSR they blatantly lied about Western rascals, but in fact they are "white and fluffy"? You are a naive person. Look at what such complacency and faith lead to, including our media in a very recent time. However, even now the positions of our fifth column are not completely broken and, to my regret, are strong enough.

[awg75]

enjoy the independence ...

[infinite silence ...]

Sarcasm ... Yes. But the majority did not seek IT!

[awg75]

after your Kiev clapped its hands and rejoiced violently when they burned and shot at "Berkut" there are no more Ukrainians for me

[infinite silence ...]

This is your private opinion, and you have the right to it. But. Ukrainians do not all jump. Take a word.

[Sergey S.]

We believe.
We all believe in the good, but day by day we slurp full bast shoes ...
Why fathers didn’t tear galloping skippers for these gilyaks, horse races, knives, bandera ...

[infinite silence ...]

It is necessary to tear out the previous power! For allowing and giving the opportunity to raise its head to fascism!
I'm not so naive that someone would prove to me ... that NO ONE knew about the presence of this scum!

[225chay]

Quote: infinite silence ...

It is necessary to tear out the previous power! For allowing and giving the opportunity to raise its head to fascism!

the current leadership is the real FISHES, remember that Julia was talking on the phone, what would she like to do with the Russians ...

[infinite silence ...]

In Donetsk, an investigation was completed into the fact that on March 23 the Russian flag was hoisted near the building of the Donetsk City Council during a rally of pro-Russian forces ... On this fact, criminal proceedings were opened under part 2 of article 296 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine (hooliganism committed by a group of persons). The sanction of article prescribes punishment in the form of restriction of freedom for a period of up to 5 years or imprisonment for a period of up to 4 years.
Donetsk student hardly expected to be put on trial for desecrating the flag of Ukraine

[sv68]

Well, Sorry, you will chew the snot, they will start to plant for a yawn on the street. UNDERTAKE AND FORCE TAKE THE POWER

[Andrey44]

Who will lead them? "There are few real violent, so there are no leaders" (V. Vysotsky's quote). Ukrainians and Russians are extremely inert - they harness for a long time. And the "boiling point" is still very far away.

[31231]

Found in the Crimea. If they have nobody, then why should Russia violate all world laws treat their passivity?
It's time to realize that without blood you will not achieve anything. The Kosovars have succeeded. Crimea, all right, it rose in time.

[shark]

Yesterday I watched Donetsk miners on TV. Ordinary, frightened people. They are afraid to lose their meager salaries. People are absolutely not ready to give up everything and take to the streets. I always said, do not overestimate Dombas. Taruta is a monument to miners' wives to them, and then the condition is to remove all tricolors. And everyone .. everyone is happy and agree. So for violent hat-takers, no one will go anywhere. For many, Ukrainian independence is serious.

[solaco]

Quote: shark

Yesterday I watched on Donetsk miners on TV. Ordinary, frightened people. They are afraid of losing their meager salaries. People are absolutely not ready to give up everything and take to the streets.

And yesterday I heard Solovyov as a deputy of the Party of Regions, Nikolai Levchenko said that the salary there is up to 3000 bucks. All this was said in defense of Akhmetov ... I think they have it ...

[31231]

Raguli and Bendery with weapons in their hands defended their opinions, and what are you ?! You expect that Russia and the green men will shed blood for you.

"You can't be more Serb than Serb himself." This also applies to today's Ukraine. Self-defense was created in Donbass.
I already wrote and will write more than once, you yourself are creating your own story.

[saha471]

Create a self-defense? Armed? Really? Long? And where is she? Do not see something! Or is she so classified that she cannot find herself? People’s leaders were taken - and taken away. And what is self-defense? She is self-defense!
Do you want to fight the junta with democratic instruments? These banderlog understand ONLY LANGUAGE FORCE !! Perhaps you will understand this. Someday ... After heavy losses. You will be snatched one by one ... And they will break the broom, one twig each!

[31231]

Do you want to fight the junta with democratic instruments? These banderlog understand ONLY LANGUAGE FORCE !! Perhaps you will understand this. Someday ... After heavy losses. You will be snatched one by one ... And they will break the broom, one twig each!

Who are you talking to? I live in Ekaterinburg.

[Elena Nastina]

A post-revolutionary situation awaits in Russia in 1932-39. What to reproach people. Let's take a look at ourselves, and WE didn't "notice" it either.

[aleks 62]

... She defends herself only on weekends ....

[Hitrovan07]

The prosecutor's office of the Russian Federation rehabilitates him, it is not long.

[Hitrovan07]

The prosecutor's office of the Russian Federation rehabilitates him, it is not long.

[Shuriken]

Everything needs to be torn out! And not torn out, but burned out! Otherwise, in this TERRITORY, called Ukraine, there will be nothing good! Himself from Donbass, for a second. And where is a healthy miner's protest? In the 90s ?? I’m in Rostov, if not God forbid, someone will be killed by US, I remember AK ....

[vlum]

Yes, it’s clear that all this was not done overnight - preparing the SS as a combat wing for more than 20 years ... The betrayal of the national interests of the SBU also took place for many years ... And so on

Yes, you just look at the names, passwords and appearances: there are familiar faces! Not a single random person, the smallest since 2004. Who are the complaints? Among them, Yanukovych was the same as everyone, even by conviction he was not a noticeable exception to the majority of such similar ones.

[mike_z]

Quote: infinite silence ...

It is necessary to tear out the previous power! For allowing and giving the opportunity to raise its head to fascism!

You are right, of course! Whatever they say now, but the majority of Russians are worried no less than yours and believe that Ukraine has not completely surrendered to the mercy of Bandera. We all have a negative attitude not to Ukraine and Ukrainians, but to the National Socialists. And you understand why.

[ty60]

moderators don’t miss the word-ho. hol. People from Ukraine call themselves so with pride. This can’t be considered an insult. And the people there are very different — urban and rural views of the world are sometimes almost opposite, in different areas of the same region different views of life , and the language is different! It’s okay there, mother, don’t cry! Ordinary people are already tired of speaking, Maidan, etc. They won’t give much money to eliminate the consequences of the Maidan from the West. The oligarchic elite liquidates the right sector in terms of stabilization according to the Western scenario. .And a new period of milking the country in the pockets of the elite.

[Setrac]

Quote: ty60

moderators do not miss me the word ho.hol.

In the Kuban, they also call themselves so without any complexes, since when has the word "hohol" become a curse?

[Egen]

Quote: Setrac

In the Kuban, they also call themselves so without any complexes, since when has the word "hohol" become a curse?

Well, this is probably for "real Ukrainians" :) it is abusive :) In our village and district - near Novosib - this name still originated from the pre-revolution, when people migrated from Ukraine. In Soviet times, the name "khokh_l" was simply distinctive, when people met somewhere in the Irkutsk taiga or Kamchatka, they understood that they might have common roots somewhere, and therefore the relationship immediately became warmer to each other.

[saha471]

Well yes! Is the power to blame? Do you really think so? EVERYTHING? And you, led by the authorities, are not to blame? No brains? Then you relate yourself to the herd, which has one lawyer. Here you are. Do not want to - prove it!

[aleks 62]

I completely agree .... You just have to start a fight with Kravchuk, Kuv, Yushchenko ..... With them, it all started .....

[Val_y]

Do not forget that those galloping children are in the West, and in Slobozhanshchina and Novorosiya they don’t think so. In addition, today in Odessa there was a rally, 5-7 thousand were under Russian flags. The main thing is that people do not remain strangers in the midst of Ukrainians and Russians.

[sv68]

so stop prancing.

[dmitriygorshkov]

Quote: infinite silence ...

Ukrainians do not all jump. Take a word.

You can’t even imagine Irina, how much we want to believe in it!

[saha471]

Not everyone jumps. Some are not. But they hope that without them everything will resolve by itself. And they are waiting. So they waited. And in Donetsk-Kharkov it will be the same. They are waiting ... Wait ... Even the history of a month ago does not teach anything. MY HUT FROM THE EDGE!

[Mih]

Take a word.
I do not believe. I saw it myself.

[aleks 62]

..Well, yes ... Not all .... Only the rest signed up for the "sofa" party and whine, whine, whine ..... Here they showed another "Sunday" rally in Kharkov ... It's scary to think, as many as 4 thousand people from the city of a million they held a meeting ... The rest means they like this mess ...

[225chay]

Quote: awg75

after your Kiev clapped its hands and rejoiced violently when they burned and shot at "Berkut" there are no more Ukrainians for me

You certainly know better
but
Most of the real Ukrainians, and not the Bandera and the cry-whipped and timidly scrambled eggs, absolutely normal people are no different from the ordinary Russian people!
Who sends the killing ... people ... kov?
Here the dog is buried

[Wellych]

Most of the real Ukrainians, and not the Bandera and the cry-whipped and timidly scrambled eggs, absolutely normal people are no different from the ordinary Russian people!

I don't know, I live surrounded by Ukrainians. Many were sane and adequate. Either there was some kind of infection sprayed, but everyone turned into manic paranoid, in which everything - "It's Putin's fault." At some point I even thought maybe I was crazy, if everyone around seems crazy.

And the historical background - 97% of the world's population are absolutely normal heterosexuals, and 3% homosexuals - who legislatively bent the majority and deprived of constitutional rights.

[Anper]

Quote: Wellych

At some point, I even thought maybe it was I who was crazy, if everything around seemed to be abnormal.

BEFORE YOU DIAGNOSIS YOURSELF DEPRESSION OR TOTAL SELF-RESPECT, MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT ENVIRONED WITH FULL M.U., D.A., K.A.M.I.
Actually, they attribute it to Freud.

[mike_z]

Quote: 225chay

Most of the real Ukrainians

...

Quote: 225chay

normal people are no different from the simple Russian people!

That's it! These puppeteers and need to bring to clean water. We have normal Ukrainians, even those who were on the Maidan and peacefully protesting against the dominance of thieves, the attitude has not changed. Unfortunately this cannot be said for some previously normal Ukrainians. Former colleagues in the North sometimes call Russia an aggressor, and me (!?) I am an invader. Paradox!

[ty60]

people die for metal. Moreover, for a stranger. We have already passed this in the 90th. God bless Ukraine to use the Russian experience, not to step on the rake once again.

[techmesh]

I didn't want to offend the Ukrainians, but what is happening now is the fault of everyone, both the authorities and the people. The phrase from the film just keeps coming up - "Well, there were people, like people, and suddenly they all became cretis .." Now, take it out.
People do not give up. Try to unite with the police, the military to bring at least an elementary order, and with Banderlog and the Nazis it’s not regrettable to have to deal only by force.

[valersvet]

"... To fight with the militia, the military to restore ... order, and with ... the fascists ... to deal ... by force."
so it is so, only the problem is that these same "fascists" are also relatives of the very same police and military.

[31231]

Do not blame the nonsense, the vast majority of the current and former on the side of the people of Donbass. If they do not want to fight for themselves by force, then who should the Russians do for them?

[Sandov]

Quote: awg75

after your Kiev clapped its hands and rejoiced violently when they burned and shot at "Berkut" there are no more Ukrainians for me

Ukrainians still remained in the east and south. A banderlog they never were.

[Sotnik77s]

And Ukraine, too, is no longer identically either, Yaytsenyuk took the gold safe to the amers !!!!! haha ​​he eliminated it himself !!!! We just have to master the abandoned zamlitsa !!!

[Baloo]

"after your Kiev clapped its hands and rejoiced violently when they burned and shot at" Berkut "there are no more Ukrainians for me"

It’s not good to generalize that way, it’s unfair. Not everyone is born a warrior, people are simply demoralized. Not everyone is happy about the power of banderlogs; there are not enough leaders based on real power.

[Suhow]

there is no one to follow ...

[Mih]

for me there are no more Ukrainians
+1000000

[xan]

Quote: awg75

after your Kiev clapped its hands and rejoiced violently when they burned and shot at "Berkut" there are no more Ukrainians for me

But on the contrary, I realized that in Ukraine there are our people, or rather, our Ukrainians - the Golden Eagle and the soldiers of the BB after all, are also Ukrainians.
Ukrainians get their brains back and you can even go to battle together.

[papik09]

Your opinion is very subjective, but I simply have no right to challenge it - this is your opinion. I dare to assure you that the MOST did not clap their hands. We will "clap" a little later ...

[sniper]

Quote: infinite silence ...

But the majority did not seek IT!

Who would argue ... Only adults MUST think before doing ... I am sure that those who came to the Maidan followed another, but got what they got ... Our history is full of examples What revolution and demonstration will inevitably lead to, but people without thinking continue to drag any scum to power on their shoulders ... How much blood still needs to be shed so that people would understand that breaking the law, they give rise to UNLAWFUL ???

[infinite silence ...]

adults need to think before they do ...

Who thinks THERE? ... They have this process so tight that the squeak from it drowns out ...

[sniper]

Quote: infinite silence ...

. They have this process so tight that the creak from it drowns out ...

Well then, as they say: "only a good surgeon will help a bad dancer ..." alas ...

[infinite silence ...]

only a good surgeon will help a bad dancer

Nicholas, one surgeon will not do here. The brigade is needed ...

[sniper]

Quote: infinite silence ...

The brigade is needed ...

Maybe soon it will be .... wait ...

[225chay]

Quote: infinite silence ...

Nicholas, one surgeon will not do here. The brigade is needed ...

Yes! Elimination of the entire top to one! No normal!

[sniper]

Quote: 225chay

Elimination of the entire top to one!

If everything was so simple, then there would be nothing to talk about ... She’s in ruins in her head (s). Indeed, the majority considers Russia to be the culprit of all ills, if only for almost a quarter of a century brainwashed ....

[31231]

How do you imagine that? Tomorrow Russia on armor and wings will go to rescue part of the population of Ukraine? Along the way, from another part of this Ukraine, bullets and splinters ?!

[dmitriygorshkov]

Quote: infinite silence ...

The brigade is needed ..

Is there enough motorized rifle?

[Mih]

Sniper - piece goods. Snipers are grown long and hard. He must have a certain property of character - lying down and preparing a shot.
A dancer is a frivolous person who can be disturbed by eggs.
A surgeon can save a sniper, under certain conditions, no one can help a bad dancer.

[NDR-791]

Sarcasm ... Yes. But the majority did not seek IT!
That is the sadness that did not strive not only for this, but also for nothing else - my hut from the edge. The logical result.

[infinite silence ...]

A person working in continuous production, in a mine ... coming home from work, I’m happy! And the majority of Nazis couldn’t allow to think about the existence of Nazism’s prosperity in the West of Ukraine! Yes, some infa leaked ... But even it didn’t fit in my head that in our century a revival of the brown plague is possible!

[Sandov]

Quote: infinite silence ...

A person working in continuous production, in a mine ... coming home from work, I’m happy! And the majority of Nazis couldn’t allow to think about the existence of Nazism’s prosperity in the West of Ukraine! Yes, some infa leaked ... But even it didn’t fit in my head that in our century a revival of the brown plague is possible!

Not for nothing that the Americans, with all the cuts, invested loot in Yarosh and his team.

[Baloo]

In the early 80s, I did not turn my ears to the fact that somewhere outside the Urals the Nazis staged a procession. And in the second half of the 80s, one patient who left Ukraine told how he, a police officer, suffered from Bendera’s in the afternoon! and how his superiors discouraged not writing anything.

[Al_lexx]

Quote: infinite silence ...

A person working in continuous production, in a mine ... coming home from work, I’m happy! And the majority of Nazis couldn’t allow to think about the existence of Nazism’s prosperity in the West of Ukraine! Yes, some infa leaked ... But even it didn’t fit in my head that in our century a revival of the brown plague is possible!

Excuse me. I do not live in Ukraine, but with Yushchenko coming to power, I regularly saw on TV these Sabbaths of the Natsiks, the glorification / exaltation of S. Bandera, the squeals of the famine and other crap.
I somehow strongly doubt that other than me no one saw this, especially in Ukraine.
So, the reproach about "my house is on the edge" or "maybe it will carry" is very deserved, in relation to the adequate population of Ukraine.

[Mih]

Excuse me. I do not live in Ukraine.
And I observed this in Soviet times. CPSU-taxis.

[31231]

Why are miners on strike when necessary, and when do not work? Why didn’t anyone go by tens of thousands of miners to Maidan to defend Yanukovych with his fists?
Or maybe you confess and say that deep down you hoped that Vegetable was considered a thief and he should not be defended ?!
Why are there no strikes now, but mostly people of retirement age go to the rally? What again are waiting for paramogs and God's help?
The population of the three eastern regions is more than 10 million. If only half went aggressively against the current government.
Now only one pro-Russian politician is attending the presidential election. Dopa.
Do you think that he is a thief and a bandit? And how will the vegetable become a shifter?
Well then, and get a new Yusch in the person of Piglet. And further svidomization of Ukraine will go.
Then your people made extreme in the Svidomization of Ukraine Eunukhovich. Not Yushchenko, not Kuchma, but that is Vegetable.
It’s time to open his eyes, when Yushche began active Svidomo education of youth under the guise of patriotism.

[Antor]

And they are probably waiting for the Russians to lay their heads for them. And they will stand by and wait for a bright life. No matter how they outwit themselves or understand nothing, what a plague came to them from the Western regions!

[Dmitry Donskoy]

Yes, the Russians, the United States and the West will not be allowed to enter Ukraine, such a worldwide howl will rise. Now, if the southeast of Ukraine rose as the Crimea, then another thing. And for this you need leaders in the Crimea to have. And the people themselves, even in the southeast, are heterogeneous as in the Crimea. Many are stupefied with geyropeyskoy propaganda. So the south-west will have to be silent in a rag and endure everything. It is also surprising that the miners are somehow passive, but they are cool people.

[Egen]

Alas, the miners are no longer the same as we had in Kuzbass in the early 90s, when they went to Moscow. It is true that even then politicians used them in order, but nevertheless they themselves were power and thought with their own heads. Then, in the 90s, we just had nothing to eat for the people, we have practically mono-cities, everything was kept only by the breadwinner-miner. Then the entire population simply had no way out. And now even in our country, first of all, the people are divided into separate groups - segments, the authorities have tried (there was an article about this recently) - therefore, there is no longer a single monolithic mining brotherhood. And around food and benefits is full - there would be money. And to earn them - you have to "dodge" better than your neighbor. In Kuzbass, the number of miners has decreased by a third compared to Soviet times (from 300 to roughly 200 thousand), while production has even slightly surpassed. Capitalist relations, however - work better, etc. than your neighbor, and they will reduce him and not you ... :( IMHO in Ukraine it is still much cooler in this regard :(

[nizrum]

How did they not know that? He lived in Poltava in the 90s, so "friendship trains" came to us from the western region. Everything was, only they did not take it seriously.

[Anna Kirichuk]

I wonder if President Yushchenko gave the title of Hero of Ukraine to Bandera? And somehow the country "ate" it - why wonder where fascism came from? Lord, save and preserve Ukraine! ..

[31231]

You know, there were and I hope there are Ukrainians Akim, Makarov, Kars.
1. Akim wanted to go to Europe.
2. Makarov wanted to overthrow Yanukovych.
3. Kars believed that everything was fine in nenko.

Most Russians warned that Maidan is evil. Someone listened ?!
We got what we wanted:
1.Ukraine tse Evropa.
2. The vegetable is overthrown.
3.Ukraine is panicking.

They told the Ukrainians not to "drink", the hangover will be even worse.

I hope you will not blame the Russian Federation for this hangover?

[Anper]

Quote: 31231

You know, there were and I hope there are Ukrainians Akim, Makarov, Kars

You forgot the MARINE. He sincerely convinced everyone here that the Maidan was a just cause. I often remember him, because I would like to NOW know his point of view, because he did not troll here, he expressed his opinion. But something he had not come in a long time ago.

[Mikhail3]

Most people are fools. Adults, held, strong ... stupid. When I was an engineer at a thermal power plant, we were given every month to read the analysis of accidents occurring in the unified energy ring. About five percent of them were absolutely monstrous, some kind of incredible fiction (usually understood only by specialists, so I won’t give it).
The rest of 95% we sadly called "fried electricians". People, as a rule, have worked for 10-15 years in production in their specialty, and burned out on tires from non-observance of elementary rules. Specialized education, vast experience (regular reading of those very reviews) and gradually growing confidence - nothing like this can happen to me!
After all, this is idiocy. But nothing, absolutely nothing, is unable to knock out stupid banal stupidity from an adult, trained, trained person. Only death stops! A man goes to her himself, being convinced that nothing bad can happen to me. Useless. All is useless. Even when they are hit in the face with a butt, most will cling to their stupidity with all their might. To collect teeth from the floor and repeat - Putin is to blame! And they will go to war with us. For the preservation of stupidity. Required.

[infinite silence ...]

Misha! Yes Yes Yes! This is exactly the case! I agree 100%!

[ra3lcj]

the absolute truth, he climbed into the bus 380v having at that time a colossal experience in power networks.

[kotvov]

Congratulations, although I’m not surprised. My classmate, having worked as a high-voltage electrical engineer, died at his dacha, switching over the 220V supply.

[delfinN]

On another branch I took:
I have been living in this moronic country for 23 years already and I never cease to be amazed at the UNIQUE stupidity. which is in the air. The PEOPLE are forgotten to such an extent that they understand nothing, distinguish nothing. And if you are trying to put brains in some freak, he says that "then Moscow propaganda." EVERYONE watches THAT US-funded STUPID LIE TV and believes IT. I KNOW EXACTLY - hOHOL loves only a STICK. hokhol and will not guess that it is unpleasant to urinate under him; he needs to be hit on the head and fidgeted ...

[shasherin_pavel]

I have been to Chernigov and could not convince my mother-in-law and father-in-law that our program "Vremya" runs in Moscow at 21 o'clock, which means that it should run at the bottom in winter at 20:00, and in summer at 19:00 with the transition to summer time. They believed that our "Vremya" is on air at 21:00 Ukrainian time. And what kind of rubbish are being carried by the planted announcers, you listen and wonder, is there really a coup in Moscow again and 90 is back. They told me: "Russia is selling us gas at exorbitant prices." I told them: "So buy our gas from Poland, it will only be twice as expensive." "So they break such prices." At least a stake on the head is scratched.

[solaco]

Quote: shasherin_pavel

They told me: "Russia is selling us gas at exorbitant prices."

And how does this affect them?
Yesterday I talked with a friend from Krivoy Rog on Skype, asking how much you pay for gas? About 8 hryvnia per person (30 rubles approximately). I pay 44-82.

[family tree]

Quote: Mikhail3

Most people are fools. Adults, held, strong ... stupid.

Okay, so I broke it. I, here, am also an electrician, only playing, with the 5th group, with a height tolerance and with operational rights, in general, operational and repair personnel. Go

The other 95% we sadly called "fried electricians"

1. There is such a book on which exams every year. It is called "Interindustry rules on labor protection (safety rules) during the operation of electrical installations." Written in very clumsy clerical language, 175 pages with attachments. Written according to the precedents collected and systematized over a long time. In addition to her, there is also a bunch of departmental instructions, which are also written according to precedents, so everything is taken into account. As a result, if an electrician dies in production, then this means that he has violated some point

elementary rules

and otherwise it just can’t.

(regular reading of those reviews)

2. Zadolbali! Instead of preparing equipment, tools, materials, and discussing and working out our actions according to the scheme, in the morning, we sit and listen to whoever is where. Then the same thing, but already in the form of an order, so as not to do this anymore, everything is under the signature that is familiarized. And everything starts the same: "Despite the measures taken, the situation with injuries on, etc." The rejection of this information is already at a subconscious level. You remember who, where, when and how much, they may ask.

Most people are fools.

This phrase is generally a masterpiece. Based on the fact that death without violating the rules is obviously impossible (point 1) and there is a certain constant amount of those who violated (the number of believers + the human factor (fatigue, illness, alcohol)independent of anything conclude that most people are fools. And in the days of the USSR, and now, no matter what, on the glands of Russia perished, perish and will perish about 25-30 electricians per year. Yes, at least what you do, anyway.

Profile education, vast experience

These die about 55-60% of all. Since young animals ahead of them, on live parts, rarely when they climb, they basically do not let them in, you never know, it's better to see for yourself.

[shasherin_pavel]

There are exceptions: In Soviet times, two trainees from the hobzaik came to Severonickel in the eighth shop of cobalt-nickel concentrate. An electrician of the fifth category leads them through the power plants and shows: here you can work with me, it’s too early for you here, and he comes to the factory KTPushka, opened the door, pointed his finger inward and said: "And here you are ..." street and watched him lead the trainees and see: a huge voltaic arc passed through the electrician's hand and only burnt boots remained from him. In the full sense of the word ... They collected the ashes in a box from under the fire shield, pouring out sand. First there was a commission from Severonikel, then from Murmansk, then from Leningrad, and even from Moscow, but no one understood anything. The electrician did not even touch the threshold with his boots, and why, when the doors to the KTPushka opened, he was not electrocuted? Not a topic of course, but I remembered.

[family tree]

Quote: shasherin_pavel

There are exceptions:

Apparently this is the very 5%. Although how many of them actually In investigations, everything is not always clear, and the nature of electricity is unlikely to ever be studied to the end.

[ty60]

I’m from the fourth. Colleague, people reading the boring instructions of PTE and PTB do not always perceive them clearly, but they are written by the lives of the deceased. And I will never send a young impudent zac in front of me. Once again, I’ll be safe, I’ll ask the boy what needs to be done this situation?: Alive so far. And I wish you the same.

[family tree]

Quote: ty60

people reading boring instructions PTE and PTB do not always perceive them clearly, but they are written by the lives of the dead

What am I talking about? 24 years already somersaults, three more and retired. It became hard for the young to chase along the stages. And so, UVN and PZ are our EVERYTHING! Good luck

[Uncle lee]

"Working with electrical wiring - de-energize it"!

Kozma Prutkov, engineering No. 23

[carver]

Quote: perepilka

(regular reading of those reviews) 2. Zadolbali! Instead of preparing equipment, tools, materials, and discussing and working out our actions according to the scheme, in the morning, we sit and listen to whoever is where. Then the same thing, but already in the form of an order, so as not to do this anymore, everything under the signature that is familiarized. And it all starts the same: "Despite the measures taken, the situation with injuries, etc." The rejection of this information is already at a subconscious level. You remember who, where, when and how much, they may ask.

Well, a person does not describe the current situation, before such dibilism with almost daily letters, and then there were no orders and orders for each case. He calls them injuries reviews, i.e. summarized all cases for a certain time, the results of the investigation and analysis, plus events. And now, yes, everyone is sickened, everything is washed away and forgotten right there.

[Mikhail3]

I am not an electrician, a heating engineer. It was. Now - security systems. Yes, there is such a book, I took exams every year. Now what are choral readings? In my time, reviews were simply handed out on a shift basis, everyone read when it was convenient, no one checked anything. If a person doesn’t understand himself that he needs information, you won’t force it. There was such an understanding in the power system of the USSR.

Quote: perepilka

human factor (fatigue, illness, alcohol)

And the masterpiece conclusion is

Quote: perepilka

independent of anything

. I beg you - reconsider your attitude to security, as well as an idea of ​​the level of your intelligence. I understand - it's a shame. But it's about your life!
If a person climbs to work on a high one too tired, sick, or (it's a pitchfork !!) under alcohol - these are reasons beyond his control ?! Yes you said, or what ?! This means that a person is stupid like a navel! That he has no place in electricians, he needs to tie his hands behind his back, until he tears off something for himself trying to pee!
So I wrote a post about this. That a person gets drunk, and then believes
that what was done in a drunken stupor is for reasons beyond his control. That he was beating a hack at midnight, he got to work - he couldn't hold his legs, he grabbed - his hand was burnt out. Is this, ekarny babay, "independent reasons" ?!
Damn you all! You are a great illustration for my post, at least put in a red corner ...

[Mih]

The other 95% we sadly called "fried electricians"
The sad truth of life. The theory confirmed by practice is a regularity. (Dialectical materialism K. Marx. F. Engels. V. Ulyanov on the basis of Hegel's philosophy)

[Dmitry Donskoy]

Mikhail3, you correctly said about human stupidity, voiced my thoughts. People do not know history well, do not know how (or are too lazy) to analyze, easily fall under agitation. Therefore, they are naive and stupid as small children.

[carver]

Quote: Mikhail3

Profile education, vast experience (regular reading of those reviews) and gradually growing confidence - nothing like this can happen to me!

Well, you know that in the risk zone there are always those who have just come and those who already consider themselves to be a guru (statistics also confirm this), therefore here most likely it is not stupidity but psychology.

[bubla5]

But with the tacit consent of the majority, everything is going on

[s1н7т]

Quote: bubla5

with the tacit consent of the majority

and the Union collapsed. And now we’re groaning, damn it. If the majority had not been silent then, none of this would have happened today.

[Al_lexx]

Quote: c1n7

Quote: bubla5

with the tacit consent of the majority

and the Union collapsed. And now we’re groaning, damn it. If the majority had not been silent then, none of this would have happened today.

No one was silent. Everyone was against it. But the parliament was banally shot from tanks. that was it.

[family tree]

Quote: Al_lexx

No one was silent. Everyone was against it.

And the results of the referendum were sent in a "democratic" way, i.e. field, forest, peat bog, in general ...

[saha471]

Yeah. Most looked at it as a circus in their home. With interest. They even came closer! And what? In two blocks, life is the same. Restaurants, cafes, everything works. Want exotic-let's see! Interrrrresnooooo !!! And now, wow. Can I fly in the face? How so? I did not order !!! So simple! And simplicity is worse than theft. And I feel sorry for them and not sorry at the same time. Mixed feelings...

[aleks 62]

And what did they strive for ???? Did not teach anything 2004god .... Now let them slurp to the fullest ....

[Mainbeam]

Revolutionary banditry is booming. This is to be expected.
But I do not have friends in Ukraine to confirm this.
Ukrainians write more and more often!

If only the events did not begin to develop according to the book "Marauder" by Berkem al Atomi
At one time I thought that Russia could not avoid this

[dzen123]

Events in Ukraine are getting closer in development to the plot of the book by Gleb Bobrov "The Age of the Stillborn" (2009)

He himself considered this book a fantasy from the section "if only if only ..."

But how it happened ...

[bubalik]

dzen123 BY  Today, 16: 08 ↑


Events in Ukraine are getting closer in development to the plot of the book by Gleb Bobrov "The Age of the Stillborn" (2009)

,,, similar works "War 2010: Ukrainian Front", "War 2011. Against NATO." Berezin Fedor Dmitrievich ,,,,

[Gunsmith]

I have dozens, hundreds of books on this subject. Before the famous events, I also thought that they were fantastic. But no, as life shows. If only the story did not end as in the book * Metro-2033 *!

[infinite silence ...]

Revolutionary banditry is booming.

After the impending amnesty, they generally drown in this D ... ME.

[Zeus]

After the release of criminals in Ukraine, that fun will begin. Interestingly, the OSCE observers will do what looking at this mess. However, among the law enforcement officers and other maydauns, according to the media, there are so many people who have served.

[polly]

Quote: Zeus

Interestingly, the OSCE observers will do what looking at this mess.

So they have the main professional quality to watch - and not see

[international]

Polly, you are wrong. Journalists carry out an order: to talk live about the corpses in the Crimea on the streets of cities, about the new deportation of Tatars and other nonsense. We have already seen all this in Crimea. When on the screensaver there is a picture of a polite green man with a machine gun in Simferopol, while the reporter himself is wearing a helmet and desperately gesturing something broadcasts in English. At the same time: "NO Speak rush!" How, bastard, did you get accreditation in Crimea? We found translators. Ours. We listened. Booed. Or shouted slogans: Crimea with Russia forever! etc. It helped! So, dear Ukrainian southeastern brothers - learn from the experience. Although I'm sure - have already learned!

[international]

Dear forum users! There is no and there was no revolution in Ukraine. There are simply gang formations, mercenaries and a local murmur + rotten intellectuals, who, under the leadership of big business in the West and the USA (and special services), carried out a bourgeois-nationalist coup on the fascist type. I saw this at the very beginning: on December 1 and 2, 2013 I was on the Maidan and in Kiev. Regarding the development of events in Russia in this way, it is not here to discuss it. Write, who thinks something, understands, wants to confront the mess - in PM.

[Keeper]

If Ukraine is not allowed into the EU (and it should be so), then everyone who is now against Russia will be in the forefront (a traitor once - there is a traitor forever!) Who will beat their own leaders ...

[dmitriygorshkov]

Quote: Keeper

If Ukraine is not allowed into the EU (and it should be so), then everyone who is now against Russia will be in the forefront (a traitor once - there is a traitor forever!) Who will beat their own leaders ...

No, the leaders will be good, but Russia as a whole and Putin in particular will be to blame!
As for the European Union: 45 million people with a serious layer of crime, with a completely killed economy? I’ll be very surprised if they accept the EU!
It will be possible to put an end to the EU!

[Mih]

It will be possible to put an end to the EU!
Do you have to drop the euro?

[infinite silence ...]

Worse and worse ... Miners, metallurgists are forbidden to go to rallies, under the threat of losing their jobs. Students - respectively. You can get it on the head if you go with the St. George ribbon ...
Demands of the people-do not hear.
It seems that Kiev deliberately ignores the East.

[tiana]

Quote: infinite silence ...

Worse and worse ... Miners, metallurgists are forbidden to go to rallies, under the threat of losing their jobs. Students - respectively. You can get it on the head if you go with the St. George ribbon ...
Demands of the people-do not hear.
It seems that Kiev deliberately ignores the East.

He’s afraid, he’s ignoring him, soon the phariones will come to Ukrainize us invisible, those who do not understand the politics of the party

[andrei332809]

Quote: tianna

will come to Ukrainize us invisible

oh well, a little jump, prove that not a mark.
py.s. I understand that it sounded cruelly, but ... didn’t you yourself let the banderlogs set the rules?

[Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.]

We wanted the best, it turned out as always.
V. Chernomyrdin.

[infinite silence ...]

The head of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry Deshchitsa at a meeting with Lavrov openly said that Ukraine considers the proposals on federalization and granting the Russian language the status of the second state language unacceptable.
That's all. This is an official statement.
Huge cookie towards the East.

[nika407]

But this was not said by the Master of Ukraine - Obama. So, with further pressure on brown, federalization will be squeezed out. But we ourselves must fight, go to the demonstrations.

[Sandov]

Quote: nika407

But this was not said by the Master of Ukraine - Obama. So, with further pressure on brown, federalization will be squeezed out. But we ourselves must fight, go to the demonstrations.

This is not enough, it is necessary to create squads on the model of Yarosh. And stop by all means browns.

[Rus2012]

Quote: Sandov

This is not enough, it is necessary to create squads on the model of Yarosh.

... for those who cannot, but are in the internet, at least meticulously keep the "Chronicle of events ..." with a description of the crimes of the junta:
-when
-Where
-Who
-what did

because the world doesn’t know about the volumes of violence, robberies, business presses and the heroes of these creatures ...

It is not necessary to upload them to your pages, but send them to your friends in other countries. In an extreme case, spread it here ...

[international]

Or send it in a personal, in "DOT", created for information warfare, including.

[Zeus]

Well they said, and then what. We have the necessary resources for the Ukrainian economy. Necessary markets with us. We can reinforce our words. And our words were such that there would be no recognition of the authorities until there were elections throughout Ukraine after the disarmament of all maydowns and the fulfillment of the remaining conditions of the February 21 agreement.

[international]

Uh no, dear! Poor you know Ukraine. Ministry of Foreign Affairs and poghans-border guards + customs = fully formed B.A.N.D.E.R.O.C.A.M.I. structure. But the people are so easy not to break. And the resistance is growing.
And on official statements of Ex to our people - ... sneeze.

[rhd]

Indeed it is! I confirm!

[sv68]

you are those creatures that are forbidden to wear St. George ribbons send to us in Rostov-on-Don. and forget about their existence

[thimble]

A weak strike? Where are union leaders?

[international]

Trade unions in Ukraine are practically neutered. Or bought. Or dispersed, whom they could not buy. Strikes need to be built competently. Define goals and objectives. Develop tactics. At the same time ensure the safety of leaders. Provide for the right plaque. And their provocations. Invite the media, and seek their presence and work. Post footage on the Internet, provide comments. Comments translate into English and send around the planet, in their media. And in the normal Russian media. And to us, to the Crimea.

[Penzyac]

Is it weak to start an indefinite strike? Banderlog will not get into the mine on their own: their guts are too thin for such work, especially since they are not used to working at all. Where are your unions? Helping strikers from Russia (for example, through the "Red Cross") is easier to organize than to send troops to Ukraine (there is much less stench from the West and sanctions cannot be justified).
And the chiefs (without witnesses) should warn that the miners know where they live, what routes they go, let them choose with whom they are: with the miners or the oligarchs, you can’t buy health and the oligarchs will not take them with you abroad.
By the way, a strike is considered a peaceful means of protest, you just need to maintain an efficient state of mines and metallurgical furnaces, but you don’t have to produce commercial products, and they will force someone to work, so sabotage is also a terrible force.

[thimble]

Quote: PENZYAC

Help strikers from Russia

By the way, let the Russian trade unions prove in practice that they exist not only on paper. In the West, material and financial assistance from related trade unions to striking sectors is widespread.

[31231]

Shaw, again, Russia owes you?
Only you create your own destiny.

[thimble]

Who is it for us? I actually live in Russia. Russia owes nothing to anyone, but it must defend its interests not only by force. The same Americans invested 5 mln in the organization of the Maidan. And avaricious pays twice.

[Penzyac]

Quote: dedal

Quote: PENZYAC

Help strikers from Russia

By the way, let the Russian trade unions prove in practice that they exist not only on paper. In the West, material and financial assistance from related trade unions to striking sectors is widespread.

And now, let it strike first, and then the conversation will be substantive about help, and so, all blah blah blah, again imperial Moscow is to blame for everything ...

[thimble]

Well, of course, they must make their own decisions. But to suggest different ways of struggle is not a sin.

[Saratoga833]

I agree. Strike, sabotage is a very powerful weapon. Just to organize a strike, you need a LEADER! Even in a small team, even in an industry, and even more so with a general one. A leader, even on a small scale, is not yet visible. And trade unionists, and communists, and socialists stuck their heads in the sand according to the principle "my house is on the edge", and all sorts of "rightists" take off their pants from intoxicated Ukrainians and whip their bare asses! Apparently they have not drunk their cup to the bottom, it can be seen that it has not even reached their bright heads in which they have gotten themselves! It's a pity!

[dmitriygorshkov]

Quote: infinite silence ...

It seems that Kiev deliberately ignores the East

And why did you still believe the opposite?
You are even more naive than us!

[31231]

Once again I say, get together on social networks and go collectively to vote for one pro-Russian candidate. Russia will expose its observers and there will already be an occasion to intervene in the affairs of Ukraine.

[Penzyac]

Quote: 31231

Once again I say, get together on social networks and go collectively to vote for one pro-Russian candidate. Russia will expose its observers and there will already be an occasion to intervene in the affairs of Ukraine.

Nothing of the kind, participation of the South-East in the "elections" will be an indirect recognition of the usurper power, their legitimation. Do you really hope that the "elections" will be fair? Do you think a representative of the South-East will be allowed to become president (especially Tsarev)? This is simplicity, which is worse than stealing.

[31231]

For this, for some reason I have no doubt that Russia will expose its observers.
And if you don’t go to vote for anyone, then it will turn out: Petro Poroshenko is the president with 20% of the vote.

[international]

People, the elections in May should be disrupted. Because these elections are illegal! Look for judges, prosecutors, professional lawyers, etc. Submit to the courts the decision to hold illegal elections in the country. Write to international courts. Write to the international media about the illegality of the elections in May. There is still time. Hurry !!!

[Stas]

You are so scared, gentlemen, Ukrainians lose their jobs and get on the head, you think that everything will resolve itself or again someone will come for you to do this ... to dig and shed their blood; then continue to sit along your holes, get in the face and be afraid while you are bending. Every man is a doctor. If you want to rake the heat with the wrong hands - now it will not work. Until you wash your bloody little yushka, do not cleanse yourself and understand that everything is only in your hands - no one will help you. Organize and act together.

[international]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXPOAbilFg8
Dear Southeast to us and me! Check out the link. And most importantly - take care of people. Identify strangers. And Kiev's ignorance of the East is fake. In fact, everyone is "written", filmed, revealed who, what and where. Therefore, create self-defense, guard the leaders. And cool young hotheads - too easily they fly off the shoulders or "coils". Write to us, Crimeans. In a personal.

[svetlomor]

Why complain about what we fought for, and now only as in a song, we will achieve liberation with our own hand.

[Chifka]

Banderlogs are actively working on their actions against years of anti-Russian propaganda in Ukraine. Themselves open their eyes to the inhabitants of the country, who is who, who is the true enemy, and who is imaginary, invented.
It is unfortunate that such an epiphany is connected with sacrifice and humiliation for Ukrainians. In many ways, ordinary residents are not to blame; they are experimented with by corrupt Ukrainian, European and American politicians.
Well, the sooner they will see. As already said in neighboring branches, it is better to burn an ulcer right away, until it has grown.

[infinite silence ...]

Themselves open their eyes to the inhabitants of the country, who is who, who is the true enemy, and who is imaginary, invented.

For those who think, it was immediately clear. But the media work very seriously! Brainwashing is colossal! People no longer understand what to believe!

[NDR-791]

And why understand something if someone breaks into your house shouting "glory to the heroes, let’s denga", then you should not believe, but in the dundel together with your neighbor. With an ax it is quite possible to privatize a gun, with a gun - AKM, and so on ...

[sniper]

Quote: NDR-791

, and in the dundel together with a neighbor.

So then yes .... And you tried to negotiate with your neighbors in the garage to hire a tractor to clean the snow, or pour the road, or .....

[dmitriygorshkov]

Quote: sniper

So it’s yes .... Have you tried to negotiate with your neighbors in the garage to hire a tractor to clean the snow, or pour the road, or.

With all due respect, not those analogies!
Where is the snow with the track and where is your own skin and the life of loved ones?

[andrei332809]

Quote: infinite silence ...

People no longer understand what to believe!

and their eyes, looking not at the monitor and the zombie, have not tried?

[infinite silence ...]

To your own eyes ... Have you tried to convince a woman of advanced age that TV shows NOT THE TRUTH! ... It's not about me!

[Anatolich]

My friend's mother-in-law lives in Gorlovka, so when you were boiling in the Crimea they quarreled on the phone. Mom ran into a daughter so that God forbid, such as urgently call Putin, let him urgently send troops from the Crimea.

[Penzyac]

Quote: infinite silence ...

To your own eyes ... Have you tried to convince a woman of advanced age that TV shows NOT THE TRUTH! ... It's not about me!

Yes, cut her antenna cable once, twice, three, let her go out and look at reality.

[zvereok]

I have an aunt in the midst of a story with
She came to Crimea - she said that in Ukraine and in our country the media show completely different things. In Ukraine, Russian armored personnel carriers were spinning at full speed. From Internet sources I saw only one armored personnel carrier, which they seemed to be placed near the administration of Simfiropol. But clearly the brain was washed either with me or with her, so they decided not to talk about politics. Aunt came by the way on a business trip, under some kind of military contract.

[dmitriygorshkov]

Quote: infinite silence ...

Brainwashing is colossal! People no longer understand what to believe!

Unfortunately there is nothing to rinse! The primer was already lit up before school!

[Penzyac]

And, here, the media and communications will take, first of all, as Comrade bequeathed. Lenin (mail, telephone, telegraph) and corrupt magazines should be aware of this.

[Dmitry Donskoy]

Right now, Russian TV channels are supposedly disabled in Ukraine, but after all, many now have dishes with satellite television, is it really impossible for Ukrainians to watch Russian channels on satellite. On the Internet you can read sites and watch Russian.

[31231]

For some time now I started going to YouTube through your media and commented reasonably. Here you go.

[infinite silence ...]

And you did not notice that in most cases, comments are disabled? ... Especially on hot topics !?

[31231]

I go to those channels where I’m not disconnected. And the situation is changing. I'm not talking about the fifth anal, it is a priori anal-fenced, but there are many other Svidomo channels.

[klopik]

yes, as the junta seized power, they immediately turned off the comments

[klopik]

yes, as the junta seized power, they immediately turned off the comments

[Rus2012]

Now for a person, the question is no longer a matter of "dividing by 16" the information about the pogroms in Ukraine - now I believe that even 100 of the tragedies that occur daily in this country do not reach us. And I'm even afraid to imagine that my friends will tell you very soon, having come here and not fearing that the guys from the Right Sector will overhear them.

The presence there of tireless and restless representatives of the promised land, usually up to high heaven, and in all colors used to describe events ...
Like "Chronological notes from a besieged city".
Strange of course, maybe they keep quiet for the time being.

[tiana]

The presence there of tireless and restless representatives of the promised land, usually up to high heaven, and in all colors used to describe events ...
Like "Chronological notes from a besieged city".
Strange of course, maybe for the time being silent. [/ Quote]
They are waiting for how events will turn out. There the Kharkov "representative" rushes back and forth, now for some, then for others, it is disgusting to look, forgive me, Lord ...

[WIN969]

at that time they fiercely defended the right of the people of Ukraine to overthrow their president

So let them sit there, there’s nothing to go to us, they just wanted and deserved it.

[Mikhail3]

You are absolutely right. It is forbidden to let the "heroes" of the publication in! They will settle down a bit, they will sit on their butts and try to Maidan already with us. The desire for the Maidan is a deep desire to buy rubles for a nickel. Let's destroy everything, and happiness will flow from this, as if from a blown up toilet. And that happiness, a blissful freebie, they hide from us.
Remember the moans from Bolotnaya? About the "closure of social elevators"? The same thing - let the "social lift" take me to a place where you can do nothing and receive a lot, a lot. Do not offer work! I want an elevator ...

[dmitriygorshkov]

Quote: Mikhail3

Do not offer a job! I want an elevator ...

I agree with you Michael3 RU for all existing interest!
People who think in categories “I want everything at once, I don’t want to offer a job, why am I not very mentally developed or what?” And we have plenty! We need to deal with our own! Import from outside can rock the balance!

[Genur]

So it is recalled: And he rebellious asks for the storm. As if there was peace in the storms.

[Zomanus]

Well what can I say. Soon the population of Russia will increase by another several million people. Although there will be less Tajik-Uzbeks ... But if no jokes, then Ukrainians are either masochists or just children. Who believe in the best. They will be burned alive, but they will still go to work, pay taxes, and sit in front of the TV. Yes, there is no your Ukraine, that's all. Ukraine was only because it was beneficial to Russia. Which gave you the opportunity to steal gas, not to pay for gas. Which for you has built relationships with your businesses. that you would not be bent from hunger. And now all. Russia needs to raise Russia. Because Ukraine has become an enemy.

[zvereok]

And if without jokes, then the Ukrainians are either masochists, or just children. Who believe in the best. They will be burned alive, but they will still go to work, pay taxes, and sit in front of the TV.

Like us under Yeltsin, they voted with their hearts when practically no one supported him. And nothing, ate.

[Humpty]

A fairly familiar situation. You can dump, if possible, but it can be different.
In 2010, after the next coup, the gang of babaev demanded a large amount from one entrepreneur. He took them with a grenade in his hand near the tank with ammonia.

[Egen]

Quote: Humpty

In 2010, after the next coup, the gang of babaev demanded a large amount from one entrepreneur. He took them with a grenade in his hand near the tank with ammonia.

So this is a big difference. In Kuzbass, in the early 90s, bandits came to the director of the mine, put a diplomat with dollars and a pistol on the table - choose a pier. Therefore, the directors of the mines walked around with guards and kept the machines on the table with papers. A small part of the directors moved to live comfortably abroad, about half of them were shot :( But then, after all, the authorities were at least “FOR”, and there was the last real instance - the Office, which, in the face of a shortage of employees, somehow tried to close the gaps and help. That is, there was still someone to rely on. And in Ukraine now the power itself is AGAINST ...

[shinobi]

Then it will be even more fun. In the image and likeness of Chechnya. In vain did the PS militants intern there. And all this under the applause of the West.

[Penzyac]

Quote: shinobi

Then it will be even more fun. In the image and likeness of Chechnya. In vain did the PS militants intern there. And all this under the applause of the West.

So, here, let, like Basayev in Dagestan, just stick outside of "their" territory and no West will dare to condemn Us.

[Oleg Prophetic]

Yes, life has become more interesting and worse (h_rt take it)

[andrei332809]

Quote: Oleg the Prophetic

Yes, life has become more interesting and worse

now things will get better

Moscow. 30 March. INTERFAX.RU - The last batch of assistance from the US government for the Ukrainian Armed Forces arrived in Ukraine by road on 29 in March. According to the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, on Sunday, in general, assistance amounted to 25 thousand boxes of American dry rations MRE, and this is about 330 thousand sets.

The cargo was transferred by Major Alexis Scott, representative of the Department of Defense Cooperation at the US Embassy in Ukraine. From Ukraine, humanitarian aid was received by Colonel Alexander Ostrovsky, head of the department for the implementation of international treaties of the General Directorate of Military Cooperation and Peacekeeping Operations of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

As the representative of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine explained, in the near future American dry rations will be distributed among the military units of the logistics support of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

I wonder if the soldiers will get it, or will the "National Guards" get everything?

[dmitriygorshkov]

Quote: andrei332809

From Ukraine, humanitarian aid was received by Colonel Alexander Ostrovsky, head of the department for the implementation of international treaties of the General Directorate of Military Cooperation and Peacekeeping Operations of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

A strange post for a defunct de facto army!

[aleks77]

Interestingly, were there exactly one solder packs in the boxes?

[mountain]

Yanych, scummed Russia from head to toe, and now X .. does not scratch and lives in that damned. Now, those who do not need help from the Russians in Russia and flee. And who banderlog, chase with yours, what do you think of the country, Russian? We will pick it up and not give it back to any outskirts.

[nikcris]

It happens. Sometimes you have to lean against shit ...
This is me about Yanyka. Politics, deflate ...

[not good]

More and more often, Russia is becoming the last refuge for politicians who have become embarrassed because of the near mound. As long as they are at their top and they are doing well, you can bring down and put on Russia as much as you like, but as soon as the train hits you, say the older brother, help and protect. It was necessary not to let Yanukovych exponentially, but to force him to organize resistance, an assault rifle in his mouth and on the barricades. And now he is warm and full, his people stomp and bend, and he also gives people advice saying they don’t give up.

[APASUS]

He called his brother in Vinnitsa, although he supported the Maidan, he was quite adequate.
From the latest news - crime has increased in the city, although the police exist but practically do not work. There is a redistribution of the previously stolen by some in favor of others. Power is in complete stupor, it is not possible to get at least some kind of answer. Everything froze, trade, construction, people began to save money. On a wave of general news from the Crimea, even doubters became ardent supporters of Ukraine in NATO.
From the conversation, I can safely say that the American plan to pit Slavic nations is bearing fruit. It is sad, of course ........

[bubalik]

APASUS (1) RU  Today, 16: 04 New

In the wake of the general news from the Crimea, even doubters became ardent supporters of Ukraine in NATO.

,,, excuse me, but what prompted them to do so? if not a secret ,,

[nikcris]

What is it? What if they attack Vinnitsa? Come, the prices for lard will rise, for the girls will be lowered.

[Penzyac]

Quote: nikcris

What is it? What if they attack Vinnitsa? Come, the prices for lard will rise, for the girls will be lowered.

Meanwhile, "Nemiroff" has already "squeezed" other forces. Why now, without vodka, fat?

[nikcris]

We will be the boots, if only not from her.

[Elena Nastina]

Why do you jerk? I am ashamed.

[rapid1934]

They just use only the information that Ukrainian media give them.
I think so understandable?

[31231]

And what about the Internet canceled in Ukraine?

[Penzyac]

Quote: 31231

And what about the Internet canceled in Ukraine?

Thus, the majority of Ukrainians hardly trust "enemy" Russian sites, their brains are already brainwashed, and the Internet is voluntary, everyone watches what he likes; the more so as the range of Russian sites: as they say, "from Bach to Feuerbach" and "from Edita Piekha to fuck you".

[Turkir]

crime increased .. power in a stupor --- Call NATO.

A striking example of gentry thinking.
There is no chieftain in the bandit gang, they killed. What are we doing?
Join a neighboring gang. There the guys earn more and the chieftain abruptly. What is the gang called?
NECESSARY, seem ..
Well, if necessary ..

[Sergh]

Quote: Turkir

power in a stupor --- Call NATO

Every day I’m fucking with these Ukrainians (I’m already ashamed to call them Ukrainians), the further, the funnier. Fuck, but where is the brain? They explain to you like loggers and show on TV the same Kososvo, where NATU called for your help, so there the NATO turned away when Serbs were cut with knives in shrines of temples, in streets, squares. So it will be here, the NATO will stand next to Marlbor U smoke, and Bandera for the feet of the Russians on the square to miss the rope. It is necessary to drive into BOSCH, NATO is the evil ENEMY of RUSSIAN, it is specially created to kill before the Russian.
Oh, yell, well, I've already erased the whole language to explain what kind of people it is.

[APASUS]

Quote: Sergh

Every day I’m fucking with these Ukrainians (I’m already ashamed to call them Ukrainians), the further, the funnier.

Do not rush to hell, there are enough sensible people.
The people of 20 years of their independence listened to the great prosperity for Ukraine upon joining Europe and NATO. During this time, a generation grew up that did not hear about fraternal Slavic ties.
Do not forget that Adolf Hitler came to power legally and the Germans with foam at the mouth proved their superiority over other nations.
Perhaps it wasn’t worth absorbing Crimea so quickly, even if it were an independent state. Abkhazia and South Ossetia did not become worse from their independence. And so throughout Ukraine they consider us invaders ............. what can you do about propaganda

[Nekarmadlen]

Quote: APASUS

Perhaps it wasn’t worth absorbing Crimea so quickly, even if it were an independent state. Abkhazia and South Ossetia did not become worse from their independence. And so throughout Ukraine they consider us invaders ............. what can you do about propaganda

There is some truth in your words. But Crimea, unlike Abkhazia and Ossetia, would be much more difficult. As for the so-called invaders ... Of course, Ukraine will not soon forget this slap in the face, but they left us no way!

[dmitriygorshkov]

Quote: APASUS

Perhaps it wasn’t worth absorbing Crimea so quickly, even if it were an independent state. Abkhazia and South Ossetia did not become worse from their independence

Sorry, but with all due respect, all these analogies are far-fetched! Yes, we recall German fascism in the analysis of Ukrainian, but still it is not chess! There are no figures strictly white and strictly black here! And the circumstances and people are completely different!
And if you are trying to equate Crimea with Ossetia, so remember 08.08.08. I hope you don’t think that it was necessary to bring this to the Crimea as well? Moreover, again, that everything is wrong, and the army hardly stopped at the approaches to Kiev !

[Penzyac]

Quote: Sergh

Quote: Turkir

power in a stupor --- Call NATO

Every day I’m fucking with these Ukrainians (I’m ashamed to call them Ukrainians) ... They explain to you like loggers and show the same Kososvo, where they called NATU for your help, so there the NATO turned away when the Serbs were cut with knives in shrines of temples, in the streets, squares. ...

They showed us this, we have freedom of speech and information, and they were 23 years old, they showed something else, the propaganda of NATO and "human values", and also that all the evil in the world comes from m_skals, kom_unyak and "bloody gebny", and about the "great proto-ukrov "- the ancestors of Bandera and Shukhevych.

[Anper]

Quote: Sergh

Oh, yell, well, I've already erased the whole language to explain what kind of people it is.

Now, here in Ukraine, to explain something is the same as to talk about the dangers of drugs in the brothel of drug addicts. Somewhere since the burning of tires on Grushevsky I have not even raised this topic with anyone.

[nikcris]

I agree with you 100%, but cover up spite.

[Suhov]

As from this:

Quote: APASUS

He called his brother in Vinnitsa, although he supported the Maidan, he was quite adequate.
From the latest news - crime has increased in the city, although the police exist but practically do not work. There is a redistribution of the previously stolen by some in favor of others. The authorities are in complete stupor, it is not possible to get at least some kind of answer. Everything froze, trade, construction, people began to save money.In the wake of general news from the Crimea ...

we can draw the following conclusion:

Quote: APASUS

...even doubters became ardent supporters of Ukraine in NATO.

In the rampant crime and powerlessness of the authorities, what is Russia to blame?
Where is the logic?
Unclear...

[Nekarmadlen]

Quote: Sukhov

In the rampant crime and powerlessness of the authorities, what is Russia to blame?
Where is the logic?
Unclear...

They have no logic! They do not know how to build a causal relationship! I periodically go to the censor. You try to talk to them, as soon as it comes to arguments, they begin to slide into insults and abuse! They don’t want to hear ANYTHING! Absolutely everyone is sure that we are exhausted from sanctions, that Moscow has run out of products, that the whole world will not buy oil and gas from us (starting from April 1), and Crimeans will not be asked today, tomorrow they will be sent back to Ukraine! Oh, and through post they prove to each other that they are not slaves, like some! Kanatchikova’s cottage, simple!

[APASUS]

Quote: Nekarmadlen

I periodically go to the censor. You try to talk to them, as soon as it comes to arguments, they begin to slide into insults and abuse! They don’t want to hear ANYTHING!

The censor is the standard of propaganda, there is nothing for a normal person to do, except to analyze what is happening.
I watched two videos there. In the first, Ukrainian tanks drive directly on the asphalt and the author of the comment claims that they are tanks from Russia and go to the Bryansk region.
In the second video, there are about 20 helicopters on the field and the author claims that these are 22 Mi-24s aimed at Ukraine. So, out of 22 helicopters, 14 MI-8, this does not bother the author.
There is no point in proving, although there are also real fights, they are given the opportunity to err

[Anper]

Quote: APASUS

Censor is the standard of propaganda

The censor is the altar of the Ukrainian intelligentsia with liberal slops in its head. All educated maydaunas were cited as an example of a democratic media.

[Baloo]

Poverty corrupts, it is no longer up to spirituality. It is clear that the population is demoralized, from whom to seek protection? In the 90s, maybe someone forgot, so ordinary Russians did not go to the prosecutor's office for help, but to bandits.

[Suhov]

Quote: Nekarmadlen

I periodically go to censor...

I went to the censor. NO.
A lot of curious and unusual:

Russia cannot cancel the gas discount for Ukraine until July 1, - lawyer

Russia spits on their own legislation and issues Crimeans passports with a non-existent region - Tymchuk.

Deschitsa - Lavrov: Federalization and giving the Russian language the status of the state language for Ukraine is unacceptable

Separatists hold a rally in Donetsk. PHOTO

Veche participants thanked Makarevich for supporting Ukraine and invited to the Maidan

Thanks for the tip.

[Nekarmadlen]

Quote: Sukhov

I went to the censor. NO.
Thanks for the tip.

You too were stunned by evil girls and boys ?! I like in American cartoons, the lower jaw jumped across the floor from the abundance of stupidity, anger, ignorance and petty nasty things on this forum!

[Suhov]

Quote: Nekarmadlen

You too were stunned by evil girls and boys ?!

[Oleg Prophetic]

that about what kind of logic can be discussed, if, according to all media bodies, they say that in all the troubles in the world take out Mosk_li.

[Nekarmadlen]

Quote: Oleg prophetic

that about what kind of logic can be discussed, if, according to all media bodies, they say that in all the troubles in the world take out Mosk_li.

If suddenly a plague, then the house is still in the same places
If people go crazy, still not everything is wrong!

[APASUS]

Quote: Sukhov

In the rampant crime and powerlessness of the authorities that Russia is to blame? Where is the logic? Unclear...

Excuse me, but what logic are you looking for ??
The right sector began to storm the Rada after the murder of Muzychko and was quickly declared the hand of Moscow
Around the enemy and Moscow is in charge of everything ...... AND I UNDERSTAND EVERYONE!

[not good]

Maybe it’s time for our politicians to quietly outbid the right sector, and set him on Poroshenko, and then publish the documents that Obama is financing, they themselves will make surprised perturbed people, otherwise they will blame me, it will not be offensive anyway.

[Cheloveck]

Quote: Sukhov

In the rampant crime and powerlessness of the authorities that Russia is to blame? Where is the logic?

It is useless to look for logic in Ukraine.
Naturally, Russia is to blame, who else?
At xoxlov Russia and Russians are always to blame for everything.
A new trend has crept out on Ukrainian sites: PS is the brainchild of Moscow.

[225chay]

Quote: APASUS

The American plan to pit Slavic nations is bearing fruit. Sadly of course ........

That's exactly what happens!

[Penzyac]

Quote: 225chay

Quote: APASUS

The American plan to pit Slavic nations is bearing fruit. Sadly of course ........

That's exactly what happens!

A let boomerang always comes back ...

[97110]

As far as I can remember, the battle boomerang does not return. It is heavy and designed to inflict bodily harm. The work of "Children's World", launched by a specially trained launcher, is returning.

[97110]

As far as I can remember, the battle boomerang does not return. It is heavy and designed to inflict bodily harm. The work of "Children's World", launched by a specially trained launcher, is returning.

[Sandov]

Quote: APASUS

From the conversation, I can safely say that the American plan to pit Slavic nations is bearing fruit. It is sad, of course ........

Americans about this tryndeli six months ago. The Slavs slept as always.

[vlum]

And they are aware that NATO is not going to enlist Ukraine in its ranks?

And most interestingly, what should NATO do to Ukraine, according to the private opinion of the residents of Vinnitsa?
NATO does not give home food. It does not even distribute 3.14lule to terrorists. Let him look, for example, at Iraq or Afghanistan, Libya

[APASUS]

Quote: vlum

And they are aware that NATO is not going to enlist Ukraine in its ranks?

They are not aware or even aware of what Yaytsenyuh and Co. sign, but this does not change the essence of what is happening!
After 20 frantic propaganda, they believe that the Germans will abandon their welfare in favor of the poor. That the French will start to clean the door, but the Belgians will stand at the machines in Ukraine. They still believe that they feed us.
What to do - these are today's realities

[Penzyac]

Quote: APASUS

... In the wake of the general news from the Crimea, even doubters became ardent supporters of Ukraine in NATO.
From the conversation, I can safely say that the American plan to pit Slavic nations is bearing fruit. It is sad, of course ........

It means that it is not time yet, they are still blind, so the Americans will squeeze them from the "black water", and then it will be ...

[Giant thought]

This is all tragic. It’s a pity for people, but on the other hand it’s clear that they wanted to sit on the sidelines, saying that this cup is blowing for us, God will let it blow. But it doesn’t carry it, in the end you’ll either have to lie under Bandera scumbags or run away. And there is a third, the most time-consuming way, to rally and give an organized rebuff to scumbags. V.S. Vysotsky said well: There are few real violent ones, and there are no leaders. The leaders should be, but not to show off, so that the guys from the SBU would not be swept up, and in principle our special services should not let everything go by chance. We will say this: the pre-revolutionary situation in the southeast is obvious.

[pahom54]

Well, we don’t know the whole truth, we grab information on a little bit where we can. BUT!!! Putin must then be reported in real life what is happening there and how they relate to Russians and Russian speakers. I think, and documentary evidence is not so difficult to obtain if desired. CONCLUSION: it is time to protect the South-East of Ukraine. It is possible up to and including Warsaw. Although, again, we have no need for the possessed zapadents and the thievishly envious Pshek, so the Southeast is enough. With the complete separation of independent Ukraine from access to the sea.

[Cheloveck]

Quote: pahom54

Well, we don’t know the whole truth, we grab information on a little bit where we can. BUT!!!

Unfortunately, the inhabitants of Ukraine have much less information.
A friend of his wife from Lugansk writes that she was prepared for the evacuation with her family ... to Lviv!
In all seriousness, he claims that in Crimea, Ukrainians are fired from their jobs and recruited Russians, families of Ukrainian soldiers who are left in Crimea are thrown out of apartments and houses onto the street, etc., etc.

[thrower]

Questions for those who live in Ukraine:

- Are such crimes really committed in the Southeast?

- Have you tried to contact the police? What is the reaction of the police?

- Is it possible to create self-defense units of houses, courtyards, etc., while you can notify the police, asking to put on duty a post in the yard or block

- If there are names and surnames of officials threatening with dismissal, or of policemen who do not accept applications, write here, I can in PM. We will write in all instances - crooks are very afraid of publicity, we will pull them out into the light as we can.

[Sandov]

Quote: thrower

Questions for those who live in Ukraine:

- Are such crimes really committed in the Southeast?

- Have you tried to contact the police? What is the reaction of the police?

- Is it possible to create self-defense units of houses, courtyards, etc., while you can notify the police, asking to put on duty a post in the yard or block

- If there are names and surnames of officials threatening with dismissal, or of policemen who do not accept applications, write here, I can in PM. We will write in all instances - crooks are very afraid of publicity, we will pull them out into the light as we can.

Well done, maybe we can help the people fight banderlogs.

[official]

About Zaporozhye and the Right Sector. I will clarify right away - it was not the plant that was captured, but the dumps of Zaporizhstal. So that you can imagine - this is a huge area of ​​artificial mountainous terrain, for more than 70 years all the metallurgical enterprises of the city threw out production wastes, including unsuccessful smelting. Imagine, they welded 50 tons of nickel steel for armor, and the Quality Department violates GOST in it, the entire melting goes to the dump ... And so 70 years. Since the collapse of the Union, criminal wars for the right to excavation did not stop on the dumps. After all, to dig out such a piece of tons of 15 stainless steel, this is a very, very not a weak jackpot. In practice, we can say that all organized crime groups in the city (and aliens too, including those under the Kiev "roofs") are tied to dumps in one way or another. And so the new ones decided to squeeze out this "technological field". Yes, there were several people from the PS, even someone from the leadership, but the fighters are all local, from the category - anyhow they paid, let's go at least to fight with the Pokémon. When the "Falcon" of the Organized Crime Control Department arrived there, the invaders immediately swaggered until the commander got tired of it and he gave the command to turn around in combat, with a PC, assigning targets, etc. Then all the courage of the invaders evaporated, scattered along the slopes like mice. Well, then came early. The GUMVD and the regional prosecutor (by the way, the former lawyer of the Euromaidan of Zaporozhye), sent "Sokol" to the base and also detained the commander for exceeding, etc.

[official]

Good day to all. Long time did not come. I will explain why - and-no monitor, the new chairman of the Security Council of Ukraine regularly issues high-profile sales of Russian saboteurs and local separatists. In fact, in Dnepropetrovsk, criminal proceedings were instituted against a resident under the article attempted territorial integrity and constitutional order for her statements on the social network (VK seems).
Now essentially. Crime, especially the general criminal violent part, has grown significantly. It even comes to curiosities when a tram crew (driver and conductor) was robbed in Zaporozhye when they were standing on the terminal. There were a couple of robberies of minibuses. As for the police. In Kiev, I am sure of two cases when ATMs were pulled out by jeeps and the state guards who had passed along were put in dozens of trunks in their faces and said - bring down while you are safe .. Naturally, they dumped. In early March, it was generally cool, now it seems to be calming down, at least in our region. We don’t walk along the streets with weapons, but it’s already dumb to attach the St. George’s ribbon to the car - they will break the wheels, break the glass or pour acid.

[konvalval]

Quote: Vi_RUS

Inform war in action!

Yes, you also have to have your own eyes and ears, not only to look in the drawer, but also around you. Yes, it would not hurt to live with your own mind.

[afdjhbn67]

zapadentsy first will begin to collapse the outskirts .. when the smell of fried

[Sevastopol]

Honest Ukrainian media abhor writing about such petty crime on the territory of Ukraine, but almost all the central bands fill the Crimean criminal trifle.
Now I am gradually trolling on Censor. NO, so here's an interesting moment - there is news under the heading "Corteges appeared on the streets of Kiev again", hung for about ten minutes. Came in - an error, overloaded the page - no article.

[Rebus]

Quote: Sevastopol

and so here's an interesting moment - there is news under the heading "On the streets of Kiev again corteges", hung for about ten minutes. Came in - an error, overloaded the page - no article.

It hangs on comments.ua (http://comments.ua/politics/460193-kieve-zamechen-kortezh--smi.html), by the way, also an "interesting" site - Svidomo, in comments, goes off scale ...
The Ukrainian media keep silent about the persecution and oppression of Russians and make out of themselves offended innocence when you poke their nose at them. In their performance, Ukraine is almost the fairest and most honest state in the world, while Russia is "resident evil" and, what is saddest, many Ukrainian citizens believe in this ...

[Gunsmith]

Yes, I personally))) y -

Quote: Rebus

many Ukrainian citizens believe in this ...

- soon life will put everything in its place. EDEM DAS SEINE ... (To each his own). Let's look at their faith later ...

[rhd]

Yes, about the 100th part - that's right !!! Now if out of 200 applications to the Ministry of Internal Affairs they register and accept, ONE .... What else can I say in this situation !!! No way to stabilize the situation (at least somehow) "They’ve started elections! I’m not talking about the people !!! People don’t need elections !!! In essence, the elections will legitimize their current situation in Kiev and of course the grandmothers thrown into them will be justified !!!

[Ross]

Quote: infinite silence ...

Sarcasm ... Yes. But the majority did not seek IT!

Of course not striving ... But there are history lessons and your own head on your shoulders! Unfortunately, the consciousness of the crowd is captivating and captivating, turning off their own brains. It's time for Ukrainians to get off such "drugs". We in Russia already went through this in the early 90s, and many have gained their minds. Alas, 2004 was not good for Ukraine ...

[kvnvolga2008]

We need organization and self-organization to protect against banditry, and not sitting propping our cheek with our hands and praying for someone's help ...

[VNP1958PVN]

I especially like questions like, "Have you tried to contact the police, what is the reaction of the police?" Is it okay that this is the police and comes at night? Why sit when there is another big redistribution? Rob the loot! After the first Maidans, they did not have time!

[thrower]

In order for Russia to intervene at least at the diplomatic level, "names, surnames, dates" are needed, in a word, specifics are needed, so we ask you to report on specific facts.

In general, questions from Russians about contacting the police indicate that in Russia we have a high degree of trust in law enforcement agencies.

[Oml]

At first they supported the criminals. And now they are getting worse and worse about them. Amazing ???

[killganoff]

The Russian-speaking population is leaving, territories for the fascists are being freed, with such a pace, all of Ukraine will become far from being a brotherly people.

[Magadan]

it also does not please me at all. You can’t surrender the territory to them, they are precisely what they are achieving!
The only way to stop such an escape is to finance the Russians in Ukraine. First of all, our fighters.

[skyil]

The farther into the forest, the more firewood, but how did you want to! Destroy, burn, storm (break not build, the soul does not hurt), and when the truth begins to emerge (and it always pops up early or late) -start clutching his head, what do tepericha do ?!

[Alexis]

a friend from Lviv washed away! After the husband was killed, although he is a Benderlog for political views! not active, she is a dude ...

[AleksPol]

Quote: tianna

Quote: infinite silence ...

Worse and worse ... Miners, metallurgists are forbidden to go to rallies, under the threat of losing their jobs. Students - respectively. You can get it on the head if you go with the St. George ribbon ...
Demands of the people-do not hear.
It seems that Kiev deliberately ignores the East.

He’s afraid, he’s ignoring him, soon the phariones will come to Ukrainize us invisible, those who do not understand the politics of the party

So from her faces all the houses scatter (adequate)

[Rusin Dima]

I won’t tire of repeating - it’s good that Vladimir Vladimirovich did not give the order to send troops to Ukraine, then we would once again be enslavers and not saviors, and with such events, Ukrainians will soon be on their knees begging us to release their bandits at every step

[Suhov]

Quote: Rusin Dima

I won’t tire of repeating - it’s good that Vladimir Vladimirovich did not give the order to send troops to Ukraine, then we would once again be enslavers and not saviors, and with such events, Ukrainians will soon be on their knees begging us to release their bandits at every step

Russia in Ukraine had three vulnerabilities:
1. Naval base in the Crimea,
2. The pipe
3. Industrial enterprises of the southeast.
Now:
1. Crimea - returned
2. The pipe was pulled east. There are many consumers.
Remained Southeast.
If you resolve the issue with him in an acceptable way,
interest of "partners" in Ukraine will dramatically weaken.
Waiting for ...

[hawk]

Don't oversimplify. "Vulnerability" has deeper roots - historical, when two living neighbors from the same communal apartment periodically beat each other in the face with joy or grief. The US takers have learned to find and fertilize these roots around the world. It is more important for Russia to have a reliable buffer between itself and Europe, read NATO. Taking advantage of the discontent of the southeast, it is possible to bring the matter to the introduction of peacekeepers (a mixed contingent), to create a favorable environment for the coming to power of sound forces. And it is high time to support not the industry of Ukraine, but its own military-industrial complex ...

[Suhov]

Quote: hawk

No need to simplify ...

I agree.

[Humpty]

If people want to change something in such a situation, then it is useless to complain to the authorities and outrage the keyboard. If they do not begin to unite in self-defense groups, using available devices, then there will be no sense.

[mabuta]

If you sit at the burrows, they will destroy you. Unite and rebuff the evil spirits !!!

[sigizmund472]

Quote: infinite silence ...

But the majority did not seek IT!

Yes, the vast majority of what is happening in Ukraine, of course, did not seek. But! In 1917, the All-Russian Maidan took place, which is still remembered with a kind word. Is it really not clear that any violence first begins, then intensifies, and then provokes opposition and ends ... God forbid Ukraine to survive all this.

[Cams]

Bandera incidentally is not the majority in Ukraine. Once in Odessa they beat Russians, it means they are to blame for not joining together. They did not fight back.
Indigenous Bandera also do not particularly favor, would not be offended ..

[Aleksandr68]

On New Year's holidays they supported the Maidan, now it’s scary? So they didn’t see their belly button further! Pop freedom with a full spoon! Everyone knows that the revolution is a pig devouring their own children! ). Move to your geysoyuz. You are met there with cookies at the border.

[zvereok]

And who do you think was to support? Yanukovych? Wash is not a finalization of Putin. Or Putin’s ideal plan, if you look from the other side.

[Aleksandr68]

Yanukovych, of course, is also a parody of the president, but if the Maidan made it worse, then it was necessary to turn on his head and to differentiate the situation.

[upasika1918]

Do you feel sorry for the defrauded real estate investors? I don’t. Casino losers? I don’t. Lopukhanov MMM? I don’t. Bulgarians and Lithuanians who have become "Tajiks"? I don’t. Libyans and Syrians who became savages overnight? I don’t. Inhabitants of the territory called the outskirts? I don’t. All of them, together and each individually, did not want the good for everyone. Everyone wanted only for themselves. Wanted EVERYTHING and IMMEDIATELY. At someone else's expense. At the expense of other defrauded equity holders, others who have lost in the casino, at the expense of new suckers in the MMM pyramid, at the expense of the misfortune of the Russian neighbor, build new mansions. We are told: "WAS..LO" is a bad word. But what do we see? It was ... well, boors, rabble rules the ball in Kiev. A bunch! And where are the other 40 million defrauded real estate investors? They are waiting!. They are waiting, in the hope of their JUDIN'S SHORT. They justify themselves - Spring. vegetable gardens, you have to work. By the fall, they will begin to be killed openly. Do you feel sorry for them? Those. who have been eating anti-Russian cookies with pleasure for 20 years and have been left without teeth that are so needed right now.

[Sandov]

Quote: upasika1918

Do you feel sorry for them? Those. who had been eating anti-Russian cookies with pleasure for 20 years and were left without the teeth so needed right now.

Good and on business. Everyone deserves what they deserve.

[zvereok]

Do you feel sorry for the defrauded real estate investors? I don’t. Casino losers? I don’t. Lopukhanov MMM? I don’t. Bulgarians and Lithuanians who have become "Tajiks"? I don’t.

And how do you feel about the citizens who allowed the collapse of the USSR and Privatization, i.e. the same MMM?

[Gunsmith]

Two big differences - the situation of the collapse of the USSR and today's ukrov lawlessness. Fundamental, starting with the economy and ending with the driving forces, I skip the intermediate stages in order to save time both my own and the reading fraternity. If you do not catch up * - do not ask rhetorical questions.

[hawk]

Harsh, but fair.
PS With the Syrians is not quite the topic

[Bully]

Quote: upasika1918

Do you feel sorry for deceived equity holders? ...

The thought is true, but ... only at first glance. If you were in a conscious age in the 90s, you must remember that nothing depended on the will and will of the people in the Russian Federation. Change came with the advent of Putin, but who was the initiator of his arrival is the question. It is naive to believe that this was a gesture of good will by Yeltsin. The initiator could be only a very influential group of people or government! There is no need to blame the inhabitants of SE Ukraine for inaction and lack of will, in the 90s we were no different from them. Moreover, we have never seen what is happening with them now, therefore we should not advise any crap.

[Sergey Sitnikov]

so since there are no cops, why will not Odessa residents put on masks and really begin to break the law-abductors and all who rob them?

[vinc]

They wait for others to come and ruin everything, and they, with a clear conscience and hands, will spit on the losers.

[Magadan]

Russians in Ukraine need clandestine militias. We need actions against the Maydan Nazis, representatives of the junta, and organized crime groups of the SBU. If some scumbags attack the Russians, it would be nice to have time to take a picture of them on the phone, then the photo will then go to the Internet from the place of events. If even every 10go in a where-thread in the gateway is punished, this will immediately cool the scumbags.
Everything is not so complicated, but undoubtedly we need brave strong guys, gramotain IT specialists and specialists in spy gadgets, and certainly money. We must donate money. The question is where and to whom, so that we also believe that the loot will go to work and at the same time not to light up any of our

[Ruswolf]

Magadan
Russians in Ukraine need clandestine militias. We need actions against the Maydan Nazis, representatives of the junta, and organized crime groups of the SBU. If some scumbags attack the Russians, it would be nice to have time to take a picture of them on the phone, then the photo will then go to the Internet from the place of events. If even every 10go in a where-thread in the gateway is punished, this will immediately cool the scumbags

.
You are deeply wrong Dear!
First terror gives rise to - terror
Secondly, any military formation that does not have an official status is a temporary measure, and outside the law. (unlike the Crimea, which was a republic and autonomy as a part - all other regions are an indivisible part of Ukraine). So that after the liquidation of such formations, repression will begin, and the German occupation and the 37 year combined will seem like flowers.
The solution to existing problems should only be lawful. But here I agree with you that you still need to decide!

[GRDS]

Quote: Ruswolf

Magadan
Russians in Ukraine need clandestine militias. We need actions against the Maydan Nazis, representatives of the junta, and organized crime groups of the SBU. If some scumbags attack the Russians, it would be nice to have time to take a picture of them on the phone, then the photo will then go to the Internet from the place of events. If even every 10go in a where-thread in the gateway is punished, this will immediately cool the scumbags

.
You are deeply wrong Dear!
First terror gives rise to - terror
Secondly, any military formation that does not have an official status is a temporary measure, and outside the law. (unlike the Crimea, which was a republic and autonomy as a part - all other regions are an indivisible part of Ukraine). So that after the liquidation of such formations, repression will begin, and the German occupation and the 37 year combined will seem like flowers.
The solution to existing problems should only be lawful. But here I agree with you that you still need to decide!

Do you suggest doing nothing? Sit and wait for the next Fergana? During the collapse of the USSR, much was kept silent! How they were cut and driven out of Asia! I myself left because I became "orys" Do you propose to be silent now? Let them cut it, but the words "terror" will not sound?

[Ruswolf]

And what, do you think the underground will organize, as suggested by Magadan and engage in beating in the gateway?
You are aware that those who now have the power - whether you want it or not, will introduce martial law in the country, and others, as you no longer have time to leave.
Only Maidanute people, who don’t give a damn about the people, can only propose a solution to the question!
And further! You have a rather interesting logic - not to be silent - means to kill.
This is the logic and actions of banderlogs .... maybe you are one of them? If not, then I'm sorry it’s not entirely clear why people should be driven to the slaughter. There are other ways to resolve issues. And there is a certain order and procedures. An example is Crimea! Unless of course you at least understand something and followed the events.

[GRDS]

Quote: Ruswolf

And what, do you think the underground will organize, as suggested by Magadan and engage in beating in the gateway?
You are aware that those who now have the power - whether you want it or not, will introduce martial law in the country, and others, as you no longer have time to leave.
Only Maidanute people, who don’t give a damn about the people, can only propose a solution to the question!

I think that we must not be silent and not be afraid to tell the truth - terror is always terror. I am against what it would be like when the Union collapsed - they threw the Russians to their own devices - who could leave and who could not well, and figs with them still give birth! The main thing is not to raise a panic, and figs with him that a couple of thousand Russian Armenians killed Azerbaijanis! But ahuyennaya tolerance, I saw her in a coffin! Sorry rus wolf, only you remember me the former Minister of Foreign Affairs Kozyrev, Mr. yes, so that we would not create, he always agreed with everything! If only to please the West!

[GRDS]

Quote: GRDS

Quote: Ruswolf

And what, do you think the underground will organize, as suggested by Magadan and engage in beating in the gateway?
You are aware that those who now have the power - whether you want it or not, will introduce martial law in the country, and others, as you no longer have time to leave.
Only Maidanute people, who don’t give a damn about the people, can only propose a solution to the question!

I think that we must not be silent and not be afraid to tell the truth - terror is always terror. I am against what it would be like when the Union collapsed - they threw the Russians to their own devices - who could leave and who could not well, and figs with them still give birth! The main thing is not to raise a panic, and figs with him that a couple of thousand Russian Armenians killed Azerbaijanis! But ahuyennaya tolerance, I saw her in a coffin! Sorry rus wolf, only you remember me the former Minister of Foreign Affairs Kozyrev, Mr. yes, so that we would not create, he always agreed with everything! If only to please the West!

justify the minus

[Ruswolf]

justify the minus

Unlike you, I never put minuses for the personal opinion of a person, especially in my address! - Unlike you and your kind!
And tantrums are not appropriate here! Keep track of your vocabulary, you are not in transit

[GRDS]

Quote: Ruswolf

justify the minus

Unlike you, I never put minuses for the personal opinion of a person, especially in my address! - Unlike you and your kind!
And tantrums are not appropriate here! Keep track of your vocabulary, you are not in transit

Dear, it’s written somewhere that you set this minus? A phrase is written about a simple justification thereof! And you just the last phrase proved to be a tantrum!

[Ruswolf]

If you think that patriotism needs to be taught to the younger generation by the examples "Whoever has a bigger stick, the stronger one," I think the topic is closed.
Since this principle will lead to a primitive communal system, when you don’t even need to talk

But ahuhennoy tolerance

can and will cover with obscenities.
How then will you be different from banderlogs who teach their children the same thing and the same way, while you, that they prove that they are right!
So after you and them, your children will continue this business - to walk with sticks and knives.
And what order can we talk about if lynching comes first! And if you made a mistake, and if it’s not right ?, And if it was not that! Will you justify yourself? Or come up with something?
I don’t want to impose my opinion, I just voiced it. If you have something else - this is your personal business.
Roma locuta, causa finita
Dixi

[Ruswolf]

If you think that patriotism needs to be taught to the younger generation by the examples "Whoever has a bigger stick, the stronger one," I think the topic is closed.
Since this principle will lead to a primitive communal system, when you don’t even need to talk

But ahuhennoy tolerance

can and will cover with obscenities.
How then will you be different from banderlogs who teach their children the same thing and the same way, while you, that they prove that they are right!
So after you and them, your children will continue this business - to walk with sticks and knives.
And what order can we talk about if lynching comes first! And if you made a mistake, and if it’s not right ?, And if it was not that! Will you justify yourself? Or come up with something?
I don’t want to impose my opinion, I just voiced it. If you have something else - this is your personal business.
Roma locuta, causa finita
Dixi

[Setrac]

Quote: Ruswolf

You are deeply wrong Dear!
First terror gives rise to - terror

You are deeply wrong, something Western or Bandera terror in Ukraine did not generate "Eastern" or "Russian" terror in response. It seems that terror is engendered by something else, such as funding from the US and Britain.

[Ruswolf]

You are deeply wrong, something Western or Bandera terror in Ukraine did not generate in response "Eastern" or "Russian" terror.

Look what will happen when the usurpers legitimize their rights to the throne of Ukraine. Now they show that they are white and fluffy - at least they want to show!
This is a must-have program for any revolution:
1. find like-minded people - to accomplish
2. will gain support - to maintain power
3. remove dissenters - to ensure their own security and autocracy

[97110]

Shaw, in nature, the German occupation - flowers?

[Valkh]

Quote: APASUS

He called his brother in Vinnitsa, although he supported the Maidan, a man ...... In the wake of general news from the Crimea, even doubters became ardent supporters of Ukraine in NATO.
From the conversation, I can safely say that the American plan to pit Slavic nations is bearing fruit. It is sad, of course ........

It was not necessary for them to disconnect the Russian TV !!! My friends are not going to NATO !!! - they didn’t let our TV channels turn off !!!

[nikcris]

Yes, they are not fascists. What is the connection with Mussolini? This is a murmur in its worst expression. Only a gopota, unlike the Russian one, ORGANIZED. To eliminate the abscess, it is necessary to remove, remove and remove the faces on the camera.

[Bobxnumx]

I heard the same thing from old acquaintances from Odessa. Nothing during the day, and in the evening, at night, housing is barricaded. They are afraid of talking a lot about the phone, they say that all calls to / from Russian numbers are tapped. The consequences are not predictable.

[Cossacks]

The situation is actually stalemate. On the one hand, I feel sorry for the former Russians, and on the other .... He served in those parts for almost 10 years. Ukrainians strenuously ran into current problems. Not sure cavo then have to regret it. In an unfavorable situation, it may become that of us. Given the maniacal passion of the authorities to reform the army, for 23 years Yeltsin, Putin left only the explosive combat ready. Putin fulfilled the mission for which he was appointed and signed-START-2 (the alkagolik Yeltsin prudently abandoned this dubious mission) surrendered a significant part of the territory. Of the more than 20 tractor factories in the period 2002-2004, almost all were bankrupt. (For new patriots, armored vehicles were produced at tractor factories). The United States sold all stockpiles of weapons-grade plutonium. Therefore, Chukhons, Georgians, Chechens, and even Buryats are wiping their feet on us.

[thrower]

I don’t even want to answer, just believe that you carry the muin

[Cossacks]

I'm sorry. I just did not know that we are with you. Of course, don't bother with the answers. I just insist on it. Sincerely, V. Kazakov. (real name, I’m very proud of her, so I’m not hiding under nicknames)

[Cossacks]

Sounds like a shit thrower you have to hell.

[Cossacks]

thrower shit, congratulations broke the record for minus.

[Cossacks]

thrower shit, congratulations broke the record for minus.

[plotnikov561956]

You probably are very sick dear ... or went to the wrong address ...

[Cossacks]

With undisguised pleasure I answer, no, I'm not sick, but I am sad to realize that everything is so started.

[Cossacks]

Something did not understand what you have on the avatar. It is difficult to assume that you are related to aviation. Everything was, but there weren’t any such in aviation. Sincerely, V. Kazakov.

[Cossacks]

Something did not understand what you have on the avatar. It is difficult to assume that you are related to aviation. Everything was, but there weren’t any such in aviation. Sincerely, V. Kazakov.

[Bear]

Listen to you, so fit to shoot. You would at least some specifics your cry Yaroslavly supplied. Especially about 20 tractor factories smiled. Itself in this industry for more than 20 years, I do not observe a special deterioration of the situation. Chelyabinsk Tractor, Lipetsk Tractor, Yaroslavl Tractor, Kursk Tractor, Rostselmash, Krasnoyarsk Tractor, Volgograd Tractor, Voronezh Tractor, Cheboksary Tractor, Vladimir Tractor, and even with fifty tractor and special unit plants. I am silent about the giant MTZ. Are you aware that a domestic producer covers up to 70% of the need for agricultural machinery and tractors? For road workers, public utilities and foresters, the situation is different. But in the USSR there was no production for their special needs. Now the Chinese consider MTZ their number one competitor in the world. So, stop whimpering, wipe off your snot and march to work!

[Cossacks]

Respected! And you could name the brand of the tractor, which is really produced on the list of plants listed. Sincerely, V. Kazakov. By the way, the statistics are not secret and even you can see it. Just in the search engine, type the question of interest, and there you will read everything. Or you are just an effective manager.

[Cossacks]

Minus instead of tractor brand. It is very European.

[Cossacks]

Minus instead of tractor brand. It is very European.

[Cossacks]

Respected! And you could name the brand of the tractor, which is really produced on the list of plants listed. Sincerely, V. Kazakov. By the way, the statistics are not secret and even you can see it. Just in the search engine, type the question of interest, and there you will read everything. Or you are just an effective manager.

[Cossacks]

Bear, nothing personal, but I'm from Krasnoyarsk. Not. no apologies needed. I'm used to lying. But klikuhu change. I tell you this as a senior comrade.

[Cossacks]

Bear, nothing personal, but I'm from Krasnoyarsk. Not. no apologies needed. I'm used to lying. But klikuhu change. I tell you this as a senior comrade.

[Cossacks]

Forgive me again, but you were not fond of fiction.

[Cossacks]

Forgive me again, but you were not fond of fiction.

[1aspid1]

This is the same as on the electronic components (microelectronics) whining everything that there is nothing. And they didn’t even try to search. Until you start driving your nose. And I’ll tell you in microelectronics, we have a serious move forward.
Even to check, he bought a microcontroller for himself, learned to program and built a circuit on domestic electronic devices as an element of a smart home.
We must not whine, but work.

[Cossacks]

I'm happy for you. Medvedev has the same opinion. And most importantly, everyone advises me to work. Will have to listen. And then I parasite completely buried and out of idleness dared to criticize the Sochi slave in the galleys. I especially like moralizing from, well, you know yourself.

[Cossacks]

asp, and you yourself understood what you wrote. Smart you are ours. For some reason, right before the eyes of Medvedev is also the same advanced.

[Cossacks]

asp, and you yourself understood what you wrote. Smart you are ours. For some reason, right before the eyes of Medvedev is also the same advanced.

[1aspid1]

This is the same as on the electronic components (microelectronics) whining everything that there is nothing. And they didn’t even try to search. Until you start driving your nose. And I’ll tell you in microelectronics, we have a serious move forward.
Even to check, he bought a microcontroller for himself, learned to program and built a circuit on domestic electronic devices as an element of a smart home.
We must not whine, but work.

[Cossacks]

You actually understood what you wrote. The question is, what have you been doing for 20 years in this industry. By the way, I had to see a tractor.

[Cossacks]

You actually understood what you wrote. The question is, what have you been doing for 20 years in this industry. By the way, I had to see a tractor.

[solaco]

What about your inter? Is it wedging?
All messages are duplicated.

[family tree]

Quote: Bear

But in the USSR there was no production for their special needs.

Forest: Altai Tractor Plant-died.
Onega Tractor Plant, while fluttering, half-dead.
Chelyabinsk did and does the road, how and how much, I don’t know. This is about

But in the USSR there was no production for their special needs.

[Egen]

Quote: perepilka

Altai Tractor Plant-died

Well, Sibselmashevsky combines? :)) Agriculture is not there, such a volume does not need the release of equipment :(
And we bought a K-700 and a Chelyabinsk grader ... Well, the K-700 works every other time, but the grader ... In a year, almost everything was changed, even the front axle, as well as the boxes and all the hydraulics, were already 2 times. HZ from what they are now assembling them - from which constructor ... or they just slipped us into this :( Therefore, the grader works in two days, moreover, without particularly straining - according to 6 hours a day ...

[Cossacks]

Medvedka is something from the category of insects

[Cossacks]

Medvedka is something from the category of insects

[Cossacks]

Since I will not get the answer to my question, help; 2013 tractors were produced in 6774. therefore, about the giant MTZ correctly and are silent. Precisely effective manager. But I wonder where these come from. And most importantly, what kind of support.

[Cossacks]

Since I will not get the answer to my question, help; 2013 tractors were produced in 6774. therefore, about the giant MTZ correctly and are silent. Precisely effective manager. But I wonder where these come from. And most importantly, what kind of support.

[Cossacks]

And if all the points are above and, then over the first 5-year period of tractors 100,4 thousand were produced.

[Cossacks]

And if all the points are above and, then over the first 5-year period of tractors 100,4 thousand were produced.

[stimulus69]

Well done Medved, beautifully wiped the "Cossack". It is good to mold a "hunchback" in your independent country without TVs, but we do not have such numbers.

[ZU-23]

Yes, they here constantly told us how everything is calm with them, before Russia really only knew what was going on there and the Ukrainians themselves didn’t see a damn thing because of their American media, and they told us that we had propaganda television. Now, now the trouble personally began to knock on everyone's door.

[Ruswolf]

Interesting! History repeats, but the mind does not increase!
1917 year Russia, 2014 year Ukraine!
Comes to power through a military coup 2-3 cunning and declare:
"People! You have won! - Мы in power! Now you are free! Now you have to choose which of Us will lead you! Whoever disagrees with "your" choice is the enemy! "
Isn't it - it seems!

[pts-m]

gentlemen, why be surprised ... they themselves chose it! ...

[Stepan Vict]

Remember the beginning of the 90s. In Russia, almost all Russians from the North Caucasus, from Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and so on have been squeezed out in Russia, now they are squeezed out from Ukraine, everything is natural. The guys from the Ukrainian factories with hands, we really do not have enough of these in our production. They need to be dragged here and not think.

[stoker]

The situation will progress from bad to worse. And you can't go there. Until an open confrontation begins, we have nothing to do there. When a mutiny broke out in Spain, the people took rifles and began to defend the Republic. And these are sitting and waiting for "a magician in a blue helicopter will suddenly arrive." He will definitely fly, only from the other side. One that you never dreamed of in nightmares.

[Gorjelin]

And these are sitting and waiting for "a magician in a blue helicopter will suddenly arrive." He will definitely arrive, only from the other side. One that you never dreamed of in nightmares.

Most people who have families and children who are forced to go to work to support loved ones are almost defenseless against bandits and fascists. When they come for them, ordinary people can do nothing and simply become victims. This was the case with Jews and others in Nazi Germany, and so it is in Ukraine.

And one should not assume that ordinary people for no reason will unite in military formations and will confront the fascists and bandits. The protection function lies with the state, and the state there now is just the Nazis and represent. Therefore, it remains only to wait for the mass exodus of those who disagree.

[Native grandfather]

Quote: Gorjelin

Most people who have families and children who are forced to go to work to support loved ones are almost defenseless against bandits and fascists. When they come for them, ordinary people can do nothing and simply become victims. This was the case with Jews and others in Nazi Germany, and so it is in Ukraine.

Sitting at home does not protect a family. And it's time to tie up with work. All the same, there is no longer a salary, everything is canceled with Russia, and the money earned goes to the maintenance of the junta. General strike and basta. And fig bald false leaders that they can do. And stop breeding snot already. They do not want to defend themselves, let them not complain. There would be such garbage in the Far East ... but figs it would happen there. Three days and the corpses of Bendera’s in the ditches. And that’s it. No one would stand on ceremony with them. They tried several times to ban the right wheel. The state tried !!! And what? All DV instantly stood on its hind legs. And then there’s only a bunch of bandits all over the country. It’s just that there are no real men in Ukraine.

[Setrac]

Quote: Gorjelin

Most people who have families and children who are forced to go to work to support loved ones are almost defenseless against bandits and fascists.

As the hero of the American film "Patriot" said, not only single people and unemployed are fighting in the war.

[Egen]

Quote: stoker

suddenly a magician will fly in a blue helicopter

in BLUE?

[Cossacks]

As far as I remember, Aksenov called on Odessa to follow the example of Crimea.

[not good]

A friend from Odessa at the beginning of the events said: if only they would not interfere with Odessa, now they are trying to sell the office and move to Russia, and he is not the only one there. Crimea is easier geographically, and organizationally Odessa unfortunately loses to Crimea.

[individual]

When a lump of snow (snowball) rolls down a mountain, under a landslide at the foot the snowball turns into an uncontrollable avalanche, sweeping away all living things.
Everything that was under the skating rink of the elements will be destroyed.
Crimea emerged from this organized natural disaster in time.
South-East - the time for rallies is ending, it’s time to take power into our own hands, and direct the skating rink to the west, the birthplace of his birth.
It’s not possible to go up to the top in the USA, but to the west there’s a fair wind in their ass

[NDR-791]

Do you have a connection? Is the Internet working? Agree at least on the forums according to the flash mob principle: 10 people - the post office, 50 people - the administration, 100 people - the nearest military unit. Only everything at the same time. In the process of this, leaders will emerge. Everything according to the classics (V.I. Lenin). It was worse for them - there were no cell phones.

[jktu66]

[quote=sniper][quote=infinite silence...] I am sure that those who came to the Maidan themselves followed someone else, but got what they got... [/quote]
Well-intentioned paved road to hell

[parus2nik]

Russia will not tolerate such a number of refugees... And an invasion is not appropriate, it is just what the West is waiting for...

[Ruswolf]

Quote: stoker

And these sit and wait for “the wizard to suddenly fly in in a blue helicopter.”

We've already waited!
The blue ones in the helicopter have already arrived!

[dobrik10]

In vain I put a plus, the content is depressing, the comments are also not the best.
You won’t see what Ukraine is heading for in a nightmare.
What kind of night of little daggers is this a hundred times worse, it’s essentially a civil war on their doorstep!
Mattresses and geyropa will pay a bitter price for this!!!

[old rocket man]

Quote: infinite silence ...

It is necessary to tear out the previous power! For allowing and giving the opportunity to raise its head to fascism!
I'm not so naive that someone would prove to me ... that NO ONE knew about the presence of this scum!

Everything is correct, the authorities are, of course, to blame,where have you all been?

[alexgrin]

Do you still not show Russian channels there?

[Mviktor]

Quote: mabuta

If you sit at the burrows, they will destroy you. Unite and rebuff the evil spirits !!!

But only a maximum of 3-4 thousand people come to the rallies, and the rest are apparently happy with everything

[Tatarus]

Even at the beginning of the Euromaidan (on New Year's holidays), good friends from Ukraine came to visit us. They live near Odessa, have a small business, and at that time they fiercely defended the right of the people of Ukraine to overthrow their president, even by violent means. In general, their opinion, as I understood at that moment, reflected the general prevailing opinion in that country. Since we didn’t have any particular disagreements (like Crimea) at that time, we didn’t delve too deeply into this issue. - Well, let them eat their freedom with spoonfuls. Did they want to remove Yanukovych by force? Removed. And immediately flee to Russia? Sit and eat the results of the cleaning. And in general, I think that Russia should accept only those who were initially against the Maidan. And let all the shifters wash themselves with shit on their own land. Accept the children, and let them live in a free Ukraine. And then suddenly they changed their minds

my friends are already packing their things and are soon planning to arrive in Russia for permanent residence, leaving behind everything that cannot be taken with them to Nezalezhnaya.

[thrower]

Indeed, it’s a good idea to organize tent-type summer camps for children in Russia for children from Ukraine. This is romance for children, but over the summer things will settle down in Ukraine.
True, these are costs for Russia, but I don’t think they are very large.

[Santor]

Quote: Valkh

It was not necessary for them to disconnect the Russian TV !!! My friends are not going to NATO !!! - they didn’t let our TV channels turn off !!!

Does anyone ask them? Now with the appointment of Alasania, there will be a complete cleansing of the space. They are already forcing people to register on censor.net, and if the IP is Russian, they will not register it.

I’m watching Ukrainian TV - they are showing staged reports about the abuse of the Russian military in Crimea... Allegedly they are shooting in the legs, strangling, raping thin Ukrainian boys and girls... Only now they found a Ukrainian flag in the car - straight to the military registration and enlistment office in Simferopol, there now in the basement Russian Gestapo... And so that they would believe the hired actors, they make dramatizations... Every 5 minutes the screens sound “Russian fascists”, “the enraged vile dwarf Putin” “NATO will help us” and they immediately show how columns of Russian tanks are driving along the roads ... The video is cut off, and now the tanks of the Kantemirov division are not going to the training ground in the Moscow region, but along the border with Ukraine... They show footage of moving equipment on platforms, columns of troops going somewhere - and they write that all this is rushing to Ukraine.. .. The locals are like digging trenches.... They sign up for the militia, curse their Russianness and tell the camera in pure Russian how they will tear the... pov with their teeth...

Tymoshenko made her election slogan the words: “Any conversation with Russia is possible only on the ruins of the Kremlin after its surrender, I will return Crimea to you.”... Is this curable? But almost 30% are ready to vote for her now.

[not good]

Everything is clear with Yulka, if suddenly there is a miracle and she becomes president, then the first thing she will do is spread her legs in front of Moscow, as has already happened.

[thrower]

What an unprincipled bitch she is, I’m so surprised every time I look at her.

[Anper]

Quote: Santor

I watch Ukrainian TV - they show staged reports

There were similar reports about abductions on the Maidan and about Berkut.

[tolmachiev51]

Great start!!! power and benefits to the people. This took place in 17. Doesn’t history teach anything??? Why are our politicians silent, because 8 million Russians are waiting for their fate.

[Setrac]

Quote: tolmachiev51

, after all, 8 million Russians are waiting for their fate.

8 million Russians who want to remain Russian, and 30 million Russians who refuse to be Russian and agree to be... I myself don’t understand who they agreed to be.

[Mikl1977]

For that fought for it and ran!!! Rejoice and have fun if you can!!!

[A1L9E4K9S]

Quote: 225chay

Most of the real Ukrainians, and not the Bandera and the cry-whipped and timidly scrambled eggs, absolutely normal people are no different from the ordinary Russian people!

We believe, we believe, we believe. But somehow your normal people are not visible. Where are they, probably in deep underground? Friends, look at how every speech of those in power gathers crowds of people, I don’t believe they are driven there at gunpoint. Today on the Maidan there was a memorial service for the Heavenly Hundred, you can’t even glance at the crowd. Were they forcibly driven there?
From time immemorial, the character of crests has been known to both ours and yours, they want to eat fish from Russia and sit on the f... to Europe. They are all so maidan now that it is useless for them to prove anything, the whole border is with them, it will help them The legend is fresh, but hard to believe.

[ya.seliwerstov2013]

Quote: Mikl1977

For that fought for it and ran!!! Rejoice and have fun if you can!!!

Whatever one may say, in life you have to pay for everything, even across generations.

[mihasik]

Everyone is embarrassed to say one thing: DEBILS! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO YOUR COUNTRY! We already went through this in 91! Or Mos.Kalsky rake-bastard!? Are we going to step on our own, on uninhabited ground??!! Have they arrived?! Feel better?

[delfinN]

Quote: Stalker

In addition, for those who have not yet understood ... .....

[msv]

Quote: Santor

Quote: Valkh

It was not necessary for them to disconnect the Russian TV !!! My friends are not going to NATO !!! - they didn’t let our TV channels turn off !!!

Does anyone ask them? Now with the appointment of Alasania, there will be a complete cleansing of the space. They are already forcing people to register on censor.net, and if the IP is Russian, they will not register it.

I’m watching Ukrainian TV - they are showing staged reports about the abuse of the Russian military in Crimea... Allegedly they are shooting in the legs, strangling, raping thin Ukrainian boys and girls... Only now they found a Ukrainian flag in the car - straight to the military registration and enlistment office in Simferopol, there now in the basement Russian Gestapo... And so that they would believe the hired actors, they make dramatizations... Every 5 minutes the screens sound “Russian fascists”, “the enraged vile dwarf Putin” “NATO will help us” and they immediately show how columns of Russian tanks are driving along the roads ... The video is cut off, and now the tanks of the Kantemirov division are not going to the training ground in the Moscow region, but along the border with Ukraine... They show footage of moving equipment on platforms, columns of troops going somewhere - and they write that all this is rushing to Ukraine.. .. The locals are like digging trenches.... They sign up for the militia, curse their Russianness and tell the camera in pure Russian how they will tear the... pov with their teeth...

Tymoshenko made her election slogan the words: “Any conversation with Russia is possible only on the ruins of the Kremlin after its surrender, I will return Crimea to you.”... Is this curable? But almost 30% are ready to vote for her now.

Let's wait until hunger begins to take its toll. It is now impossible to resist this hysteria informationally. How long will they stand at the borders? Maybe they will also grow potatoes and pigs.
In fact, one cannot really completely rule out the introduction of troops (or rather, the conduct of some kind of military operation) if the situation changes.

[Ivan_Ivanov]

Live Stream!!! What is happening now in Odessa.

It looks like the Banderlogs will be... oh, beaten.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/tairovo

[homosum20]

Two quotes and one question:
"...they fiercely defended the right of the people of Ukraine to overthrow their president, even by violent means."
“...my friends are already packing their things and are soon planning to arrive in Russia for permanent residence, leaving behind everything that they can’t take with them to Nezalezhnaya.”
Why would we need such citizens? We bring our own people to justice.

[pvv113]

What to do if all the atrocities of criminals are supported or encouraged by the new authorities

[AleksPol]

Quote: Vi_RUS

Everyone already understood, and before Ukraine, like a giraffe!

Europe will treat Ukraine like Marius the giraffe

[Vyacheslav 64]

Friends, no one is going to accept Ukraine into the European Union!!! This has been stated REPEATEDLY.

[jPilot]

These are the consequences of the logic: “Oh, they’re beating my neighbor, I won’t say anything, in case it blows me away,” today it might blow through, but tomorrow you will be that neighbor. Don’t sit and unite in self-defense units, just without slogans for now, come up with ways to notify and gather in a hot spot to fight back. Then, when you have worked this out, unite into large groups, etc. etc..... If you sit there, they will kill you like partridges. IT WILL NOT HAPPEN DON'T HOPE, THE GUYS HAVE FELT THE TASTE OF BLOOD AND IMPUNITY. Moreover, every day this is fueled and supported from Kyiv by relevant statements and bills.... And most importantly, this is fueled by the upcoming financial collapse and, accordingly, hunger, hence the robberies, why work if you can go and take it under the slogan “at the Russians”. I apologize, but I’ll say it out loud: SMART, I HATE UBERS. Good luck Ukrainians, and don’t sit, unite, fight, we will definitely support you as soon as we can......

[Quantum]

But what about our Banderaites? After criticism from Makarevich and his comrades,
Prokhorov, Yarmolnik and someone else wrote a letter to Putin in defense of these
scum, portraying them as the conscience of the nation, etc. But these admirers
Bandera's supporters walked through Moscow with fascist flags. But we know them by sight,
the names of the traitors are known, we don’t look at them, we don’t read them
books, we don’t listen to their homo songs, we despise them!

[msv]

In fact, today it is necessary to make informed and verified decisions, relying on reliable information characterizing the situation. There is no need to cut anything emotionally, this is what is expected of us, and:
- and the United States, which needs Russia to get into a war that will weaken it economically.
-and Ukraine (the current government) which will blame everything on this war and will be able to unite the people against the “aggressor”.

I agree with many that everyone has what they deserve. The Southeast has not united. Where has their “popular front” gone? And everyone who was there ran for president to share power. The Party of Regions was especially striking. I have never seen such spineless and traitors before. And the point is not about joining Russia. But the fact is that they have already handed over Russian-speaking people. And I won’t be surprised that soon, as a tribute to political fashion, they will shout glory to Ukraine. But the South-East naively believes that they were not passed or were not fully passed.
For the South-East, here was an example - Crimea. How, where and what to do. It was necessary to take control of the regions... But... there are few real violent ones and there are no leaders.
I still feel sorry for ordinary people who now go to rallies with Russian flags, trying to achieve something. But apparently there are not as many of them as we would like.

[Nicotin13]

Just now I was talking with a relative from Ukraine: everything seems to be fine, but it’s a pity Crimea was taken from us (according to my uncle). Sorry, I didn’t understand: what was taken from you, Uncle Vanya? And by the way, Uncle Vanya is well over 70. This is how they clean their brains specialists

[Demo]

Now I’m watching on the webcam in Odessa, a crowd has gathered at the Duke’s and there are Russian flags... An acquaintance with whom we corresponded from Odessa has not been in touch for a long time, maybe their Internet has been turned off?

In any case, I think that people's patience will run out

[plotnikov561956]

Ivan Franko in the famous preface “Descho about himself” back in 1897. “I don’t like Ukrainians... I know so little of their characters, and so much of their friability, dense hardness, duplicity and pomp, that I really don’t know why I should love them... You can, I can love Ukraine as a race, that race is important Ilu, unbridled, sentimental, with a lack of heart and willpower, I am so little inclined to a political life in a wealthy society, I am so fruitful in the upside-down nature of a different variety..." Translation: "I don’t like Ukrainians... I found so few characters between them, and so much pettiness , close callousness, duplicity and arrogance, that I really don’t know why I should love them... Maybe I should love Ukraine as a race, that race that is overweight, unbridled, sentimental, devoid of hardening and willpower, so little capable of political life with with its cesspool leadership, so prolific in werewolves of the most heterogeneous variety..."

Source: http://politikus.ru/articles/15777-zapozdavshaya-lyubov-k-krymu.html
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[Vyacheslav 64]

Our Ukrainian brothers must understand that in the European Union, as in any unequal community, there are masters and there are farm laborers, but our neighbors are in no way apt to play the role of masters in Europe! Let's go to Bulgaria, see it, talk to people!

[thrower]

There was a joke - “The gentlemen are all in Paris.”

Now this is no joke.

[Vyacheslav 64]

Our Ukrainian brothers must understand that in the European Union, as in any unequal community, there are masters and there are farm laborers, but our neighbors are in no way apt to play the role of masters in Europe! Let's go to Bulgaria, see it, talk to people!

[Sibiryak13]

For twenty years, Russophobia and Banderaism flourished in Ukraine. And there’s no need to talk about working people whose wives and children they feel sorry for. They themselves created the infection, now help them. But tearing your ass off the sofa is clearly not fate. When the Nazis break into their houses, the poor people are sure that Russia and Putin personally are to blame. I believe that a little bloodletting will be beneficial for crested animals. Maybe the brain will work.

[papik09]

".... we are sure that Russia and Putin personally are to blame"
This is not the first day I have come across such statements. So here it is. To those who say that Russia and Putin are to blame for everything, I just want to answer: "IF EVERYONE STINKS OF SHIT - LOOK, MAYBE YOU'VE GOT IT?"

[bddrus]

My friends wanted to go on vacation to their relatives in Ukraine as usual, but they said it wasn’t worth it - they might beat you up and rob you on the street if they found out that they were Russians. So think about it, these Ukrainians reconsidered Kiselev or out the window after all

[Arkan]

News from friends from Odessa. Life in Ukraine is becoming more and more joyful.

The myopia of the majority of the population of Ukraine led to such bitter consequences as a suitcase, a train station, and emigration.

[valersvet]

Ukraine was famous for its heroes
There is no Taras Bulba in Ukraine...
Yes, it happened as it was: “I gave birth to you, I will kill you”
They recruited a lot of crap in Ukraine.

ps Taras B. would have a hard time.

[Setrac]

Quote: valersvet

There is no Taras Bulba in Ukraine...

But Taras Bulba was not in Ukraine, he is a fictional character.

[valersvet]

Yes, and Stirlitz is a fictional character, but history was “made” by specific people, supplemented and embellished, but it was done.

[NDR-791]

Quote: sniper

Quote: NDR-791

, and in the dundel together with a neighbor.

So then yes .... And you tried to negotiate with your neighbors in the garage to hire a tractor to clean the snow, or pour the road, or .....

We tried it. And not only the tractor, but also the thugs on the street. And it was with the neighbor. They even chased the junkies in the yard with axes, but now it’s calm. They will come again, they will receive more. Since the mid-eighties, I learned that this MUST be done! When the Nazis came out to us for the first and only time on Hitler's birthday, so that...

[delfinN]

Quote: killganoff

The Russian-speaking population is leaving, territories for the fascists are being freed, with such a pace, all of Ukraine will become far from being a brotherly people.

[Vadim12]

Under a lying stone... Until they decide for themselves, they will be beaten, killed and robbed by the PSovtsy and other riffraff.

[Kovlad]

Quote: infinite silence ...

It is necessary to tear out the previous power! For allowing and giving the opportunity to raise its head to fascism!
I'm not so naive that someone would prove to me ... that NO ONE knew about the presence of this scum!

Just about to rip out and so on and so on and the authorities and everyone, but have you looked in the mirror? Or are they all toys? But the weapons warehouses have already been looted and the wolf cubs have drank fresh blood, and what are YOU complaining about? They wanted a shit democracy - so you got it.

[ya.seliwerstov2013]

On NTV they are now showing how Orthodox churches in Ukraine are being captured. The guys went against God!!! We will not forgive this!! It is not possible to destroy the Faith.

[Cristall]

They're walking right in front of my windows. They carry Russian flags - flags of the city (I even saw one Ukrainian one)
posters with the Federation, and for Anton, most of the communist symbols - there is even Stalin.
Shouts-Russia Odessa, together we are strong, the Russian city is death to fascism.
Well, I think more than a thousand, obviously. We walked in a column for about 5 minutes.
There will probably be “30 people” in the news again, or maybe 200..
Here the Communist Party is still strong. The People's Alternative Front and the Communist Party of Ukraine gathered.
Strange, but mostly young people. Kievans usually speak with contempt about the crowd of old women and grandfathers at such rallies.
Again on a day off. We work, otherwise the south will be paralyzed, and families will go on hunger strike.

[vorchyn_ymka]

Ukraine is in danger of a civil war along the way... relatives in Ukraine have already squabbled among themselves... who is for the Maidan, who is for Olka, who is for Russia... those in the Maidan will have their brains blown 100%... they don’t see the beam in their own eye, but Russians unanimously criticize that we tolerate Putin’s regime... well done... we overthrew the hated government and even though there is complete anarchy now, they firmly believe in geyropa and an alliance with them... and these are not Westerners, but the south-eastern part... in the end, our relatives called us occupiers and they said that the occupiers have nothing to do in a free Ukraine... let's go to Crimea before the lumps pollute it.

[Deadmen]

What causes misunderstanding most of all is the expression that increasingly sounds like “according to the laws of the Revolution.” To be honest, I don’t understand what kind of law this is. This is at least a very vague concept that is used by adherents of Euromaidan and I’m sure that most of them themselves cannot explain what it is))
For example, when they came to a woman in Ukraine who works in a children’s hospital and said that she needed to leave her place of work, and when asked who decided it this way, they answered according to the laws of the revolution)) what kind of Makhnovshchina is this, God knows it’s funny and I want to cry.

[Riperbahn]

It’s getting funnier and funnier - it’s all Putin’s fault. Why are you running to us?

[colonel manuch]

CRIMINAL LEAVES FROM THE CAMPS WILL REPLACE THE RANKS OF THE BANDERLOGS - THIS IS A FACT! Southeasterners quickly unite, they will be sent to YOU ​​first of all!

[ya.seliwerstov2013]

As a result, our relatives called us occupiers and said that the occupiers have nothing to do in a free Ukraine... let's go to Crimea before the lumps pollute it.

All normal people should just flee to Russia. Or take up arms and defend their interests.

[Goldmitro]

<<<...about the pogroms in Ukraine - now I believe that not even a 100th part of the tragedies that occur daily in this country reaches us.>>>
An armed coup is an armed coup! Russia went through this in 1917! What kind of security can we talk about in Ukraine today if armed gangs roam freely around Kyiv and other cities, besiege the Verkhovna Rada, so that deputies are forced to flee underground, and the Maidan authorities don’t know what to do with these scumbags - their own creatures! It would be a pity if “polite people” had to intervene again! Only now, it seems, they can’t get by with POLITENESS alone!

[VECHESLAVIAN]

The States beautifully recouped through Ukraine for the fact that Russia prevented them from getting into Syria and further into Iran, but the gentlemen Zionists did not take into account one thing, that the brown plague grown near the borders of Russia is fraught with a bloody massacre and with NATO’s intervention in all this bacchanalia there will also be a Third world war. Then the myth that Russian tanks will reach Lisbon may become a reality, and the most terrible and cruel reality in the entire history of mankind, because in essence there is nothing left to protect in the EU, all moral norms have been trampled upon, only legalized ones same-sex marriage, and the introduction of new subjects in primary school about sexuality and then the science of orgasm, suggest that the EU is all Kashchenko, and therefore everything will have to be burned to the ground, otherwise this whole plague will swallow us up too.

[thrower]

Then the myth that Russian tanks will reach Lisbon may become a reality

This will be a necessity; the United States should not have any footholds on the mainland.