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Chinese view on Ukrainian events: why support the actions of Russia in the Middle Kingdom

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From the very beginning of the latest events in the Crimea, Chinese public opinion was entirely on the side of Russia. In China, they consider what is happening as a clash between Russia and the West, and sympathize with the first.


At the end of February, when the Crimean crisis was just beginning, the editorial of the newspaper “Huantsyu Shibao” caught the eye with discourses on how the Celestial should treat what is happening in Ukraine.

On the one hand, the material said, Beijing traditionally professes the principle of non-interference in the internal affairs of other states (one of the five principles of the peaceful foreign policy of the PRC). And calls for this all the rest.

Chinese view on Ukrainian events: why support the actions of Russia in the Middle Kingdom


However, it was further noted that in order to follow this rule in respect of a country, including Ukraine, it must have these internal affairs, that is, all decisions in the state should be made independently and sovereignly.

The meaning of the reasoning in the editorial of the Chinese edition was as follows: one thing when it comes to a sovereign state, which, in accordance with its legal and constitutional procedures, determines how to live, what to do, and in which direction to develop. In this case, any foreign intervention is interference in internal affairs, an attempt on sovereignty and independence.

But if the state, including its formal leadership, is under external influence and control (although the “state” in this case is a very conditional concept), then intervention in the processes occurring in it (on its territory) is interference external forces controlling such a “state” (or its formal leadership).

In this regard, the editorial board of the “Huanqiu Shibao” asks the question: do Ukraine still have internal affairs? Are decisions made in Kiev? Or are they imposed (prompted) from the outside? And further: interference in the "Ukrainian affairs" - is it interfering in the internal affairs of the country or interfering in the affairs of the West, which saddles Ukraine? On this occasion, the material stated that "the Ukrainian question has long gone beyond the internal affairs of any country, and Ukraine has long been the scene of struggle between the West and Russia."

“The right to interpret what exactly is internal policy has been owned by Western countries for many years. Everywhere they themselves intervene in the affairs of other states, sometimes even recklessly abusing military forces. But when did they recognize it? ”Recalls the Chinese edition of the traditional for the West hypocrisy and double standards.

By the way, the quite characteristic title of the American article The USA Today from March 21: How the West lost Crimea, “How the West lost Crimea”. Not Ukraine, namely the West!

Official Beijing took a diplomatic neatly-detached position: appeals for a peaceful settlement, for the settlement of controversial issues at the negotiating table, etc.

At the same time, a much more definite position is stated in the media controlled by the Chinese authorities. For example, the People's Daily says that the situation around Ukraine is "shrouded in the spirit of the cold war." Russia, under the leadership of Vladimir Putin, "made the West understand that there could be no winners in the Cold War." At the same time, the article notes, “a strategic rapprochement between Russia and China will become a stronghold of stability in the world.”

In the Chinese Global Times, Western policy towards Ukraine is severely criticized and a “West fiasco” is stated. The project of creating a pro-Western regime in Kiev “failed and created chaos, which the West has neither opportunities nor wisdom to arrange.” What position should China take in this situation? “We cannot disappoint Russia when it has to struggle with difficulties,” emphasizes the Global Times, and at such a difficult time for Moscow, “China must become a reliable strategic partner.”

Commenting on the weekly Der Spiegel, commenting on China’s so loyal attitude to Russia, the front pages of Chinese state publications leave no doubts: “The most populous country in the world stands on the side of the largest country in the confrontation between Russia and the West.” By the way, the material of the author is accompanied by a poster of 50-ies of the last century on the theme of Soviet-Chinese friendship.

Der Spiegel draws attention to the preparation of Moscow and Beijing for the formation of a union capable of significantly changing the balance of world forces. At present, the newspaper reminds, experts of the Russian Foreign Ministry are working on a draft treaty on “military-political cooperation” with the PRC. Although the specific details of the document are not yet known, this agreement “should go much further than the agreement on good-neighborliness, friendship and cooperation signed by Putin in 2001”. But this is for the future.

At present, China may receive bonuses directly from the conflict between the West and Russia over the Crimea.

The point is that earlier, Moscow (in response to Washington’s insistent requests) refused to supply China with a number of Russian weapons systems capable of significantly changing the balance of forces in the Pacific. For example, reminds Der Spiegel, China has long wanted to purchase nuclear submarines of the 949A project from the Russian Federation, which are equipped with cruise missiles and can destroy American aircraft carriers. And earlier, influential representatives of the Russian military industrial complex lobbied for the lifting of all restrictions for China. In light of current circumstances, these appeals can be supported by the Kremlin.

China is interested in military cooperation with Ukraine. However, the latter’s rapprochement with the West, especially with the prospect of joining NATO, will adversely affect the military-technical cooperation of Kiev and Beijing, and even put an end to it. "For this reason, China wants Ukraine to remain in the Russian zone of influence," says Der Spiegel.

Thus, the situation with the sanctions that the West imposes on Russia in connection with its actions in the Crimea (including threatening with a reduction or complete cessation of military-technical cooperation with the Russian Federation) can be used by the Chinese to their advantage. The West, on the contrary (especially the USA), will get a lot of problems.

We add that the events around the Crimea in China are probably also viewed through the prism of the Taiwanese problem - in all its aspects, starting with its own military capabilities and ending with the need to have strategic partners / allies able to cover the rear and provide at least diplomatic support. In Beijing, after all, they probably expect to read sooner or later in some American edition an article entitled How the West lost Taiwan.
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  1. smel
    smel 31 March 2014 19: 19
    +17
    It’s not bad that China supports us. But still, do not forget that Russia has 2 ally. This postulate was 150 years relevant. And it will continue to be relevant.
    1. Samaritan
      Samaritan 31 March 2014 19: 41
      0
      [quote = smel] It’s not bad that China supports us ... It’s rather neutral, in the middle ... It’s going to go against the USA, they will cut the market, the plants will go up against Russia ... So they’re hanging out ... In the hole
      1. clidon
        clidon 31 March 2014 21: 59
        +5
        He is not neutral, but more to our side. And what about him - the self-determination of Crimea is a good reason to recall the Taiwan problem. They will not impose sanctions against Russia - well, they will remember a friendly step. They will introduce it — wonderful, Russia will become dependent on Beijing for the most part. But they will not tear the shirt for our interests either.
        1. Lelek
          Lelek April 1 2014 01: 27
          +2
          In addition, China has a paper interest in Ukraine - Ukraine’s debt of $ 2 billion. fellow
          1. clidon
            clidon April 1 2014 05: 33
            +1
            This is against the background of geopolitics - just a husk.
          2. Altona
            Altona April 1 2014 07: 58
            0
            Quote: Lelek
            In addition, China has a paper interest in Ukraine - Ukraine’s debt of $ 2 billion.

            ---------------------------------
            China has a huge gas interest in Russia, in the transition from the coal (from the word "coal") format of its energy to a more environmentally friendly ...
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          4. CALL.
            CALL. April 1 2014 13: 21
            0
            At present, China may receive bonuses directly from the conflict between the West and Russia over the Crimea.


      2. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 31 March 2014 22: 35
        +3
        [quote = Samaritan] [quote = smel] It’s not bad that China supports us ... It’s rather neutral, in the middle ... It’s going to cut the US against the USA, they’ll cut the market against Russia, and they’ll hang up like that. .. In the hole [/ quote]

        Do you overestimate the role of Russia? Because of what they have the plant "stand up" ???
        1. Weniamin
          Weniamin April 1 2014 05: 37
          0
          Because of what they have the plant "stand up" ???

          First of all, these are energy supplies supplied by Russia. Secondarily, it is wood. In the third turn (for the future) it is fresh water (a project of water pipelines from Baikal).
    2. datur
      datur 31 March 2014 20: 15
      -14%
      [quote = smel] It's not bad that China supports us. But still, do not forget that Russia has 2 allies. This postulate has been relevant for 150 years. And it will continue to be relevant .--- + 2 allies --- GAZPROM and NEFTEPROM !!!! wassat laughing
      1. Lelek
        Lelek April 1 2014 01: 31
        +2
        150 years ago, there was no Gazprom or oil industry, and the two allies are the army and navy. soldier
    3. serega.fedotov
      serega.fedotov 31 March 2014 20: 44
      +6
      China supports itself! But now the interests of China and Russia in foreign policy are almost the same, I hope this will continue to happen! But the fact that the first-line conscripts in China has more than a hundred million, we must remember!
    4. maxcor1974
      maxcor1974 31 March 2014 21: 09
      +3
      Everything has changed. A military-political alliance between Russia and China is long overdue. I will say more, it will be practically impossible for us or China alone to pursue an independent foreign and domestic policy. The EU and NATO + the US have an overwhelming economic (and military) advantage over China and the Russian Federation separately. But our union will balance, at least partially, the existing imbalance. Moreover, this alliance will be able to resist not only the military, but also the economic system of our "friends". Let me remind you of Wall Street's nightmare: the simultaneous presentation of treasury bills for payment of them, the economy of 3,14ndostan will not survive this.
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    6. polite people
      polite people 31 March 2014 21: 58
      +1
      As the Chinese representative on the sidelines of a military conference recently said. “We are not ready yet.” We need 20 years.
      That's the whole layout. They are waiting.

      reliable source
      1. not good
        not good 31 March 2014 22: 38
        0
        Question: which way are they preparing?
    7. SVT
      SVT April 1 2014 06: 44
      0
      My friend !!! well, you reduce our allies by 1/3!
      You forgot about the Strategic Military Missile Forces.

      Strategic Missile Forces (Strategic Missile Forces) - a separate branch of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the ground component of strategic nuclear forces
      soldier
  2. Ased
    Ased 31 March 2014 19: 21
    +3
    China looking at Ukraine oh how afraid of its Maidan. There will be hunveibins, (if you build parallels with the right sector), they will remember for a long time to come. Supporting their leadership, they twisted the meat grinder so much that oh!
    1. Umnichka
      Umnichka 31 March 2014 19: 41
      +32
      In Beijing, their "Maidan" has already been rolled out by tanks, and will be rolled out as many times as necessary.
      Py.Sy. And it is right.
      1. Ased
        Ased 31 March 2014 19: 46
        +1
        (thoughtfully) Many Chinese ... :)))
        1. nikcris
          nikcris 31 March 2014 19: 53
          0
          No more than locusts.
        2. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch 31 March 2014 22: 38
          0
          Quote: ASed
          (thoughtfully) Many Chinese ... :)))


          ... one, two, three-Chinese laughing
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      3. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich April 1 2014 05: 35
        +1
        Quote: Umnichka
        In Beijing, their "Maidan" has already been rolled out by tanks, and will be rolled out as many times as necessary.
        Py.Sy. And it is right.
        yes these will definitely roll out, otherwise they cannot, the population is huge, if it flares up, do not put out ...
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    3. real
      real 31 March 2014 23: 13
      0
      The first Maidan was just in China and they wanted to crank (Tiananmen), but it was extremely and extremely unsuccessful !!! And the hunveibins were the weapons of power (Mao). He then cleaned them up ... At one time, Hitler also cleared the SA, and Ivan the Terrible cleaned up the guardsmen after they both did their job for their sovereigns .... This is a tradition historical ...
    4. kr33sania
      kr33sania April 1 2014 07: 01
      +1
      They, with their Maidan, are chipping like Yanukovych will not. Suppress tanks, in FIG, and who will tell them what? America????
  3. krechet-1978
    krechet-1978 31 March 2014 19: 26
    +6
    China has always quietly hated both Western countries and Russia. China always pursues only its own interests and is not friends with anyone, but cooperates with everyone for the benefit of itself. China sleeps and sees when on a globe it stretches from edge to edge.
    1. Umnichka
      Umnichka 31 March 2014 19: 42
      +5
      So we also need. And in China they understand this - pragmatism is called ...
      1. krechet-1978
        krechet-1978 31 March 2014 20: 02
        +3
        There is a difference. China has damaged its entire territory, dirty rivers, forests cut down, industry works on coal - there is nothing to breathe, the earth has been poisoned with chemical fertilizers - it will not give birth. And all this on a colossal scale. They do not know how to live in balance with nature. And in Russia there is a lot of things, but it is ours and nothing shines behind Amur.
        1. real
          real 31 March 2014 23: 24
          0
          If the land does not give birth to them, how do they feed 1,5 lard to the people themselves, and still export the surplus ???? Have you been to China yourself ???
          1. krechet-1978
            krechet-1978 31 March 2014 23: 47
            +2
            Each year, 1,5 percent of the land is taken out of circulation. Now China has grown as much as it has eaten, but every year there is less land and the population is growing. China is actively trying to buy agricultural land all over the world.
        2. Lazy
          Lazy 31 March 2014 23: 40
          +5
          China of course (like India) and killed its ecology. But he does not plan to expand his territory even at the expense of the weak Mongolia. Well, they are such Chinese, they consider theirs their own and they don’t need a stranger, and so has been their entire history over many thousands of years. Anyone who says that Russia or China will expand their territories by military means, joining territories that did not belong to historically, is either a fool or a provocateur (because you need to learn history, these civilizations will NEVER attack first). By the way, regarding cooperation with China - the Alexander phrase about the two allies of the army and navy can be applied to any strong state, but in fact, even if you look for allies, then for us this is China. They do not cheat, you can deal with them, although of course it is clear that everyone will always have their own interests in the first place. Here, it would be naive to wait for something else. But when we need to support China (for example, in a conflict with the Japanese), then we must do this, and the Chinese will never forget kindness. Russia-China, now may be precisely the tandem that can (and should) resist the West.
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I April 1 2014 02: 44
            +2
            Quote: Lazy
            . But he does not plan to expand his territory even at the expense of a weak Mongolia. Well, they are Chinese, they consider theirs to be theirs and they don’t need a stranger, and so it was all

            Quote: Lazy
            then we are obligated to do this, and the Chinese will never forget kindness.

            As one friend of mine says: "The tradition is fresh, yes # fidgets with difficulty
          2. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich April 1 2014 05: 38
            +1
            Quote: Lazy
            Anyone who says that Russia or China will expand their territories by military means, joining territories that did not belong to historically, is either a fool or a provocateur

            negative and who keeps THIS in mind, thrice ...
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    3. nikcris
      nikcris 31 March 2014 20: 01
      +1
      1978 - How did I understand the year you were born? This year, China finally came under the States. Before the 76th death of Mao, China in a peculiar way occupied a marginal niche. In fact, in the Security Council, Khrushchev returned them. This is for those who do not believe in exceptions.
      1. Patriot.ru.
        Patriot.ru. 31 March 2014 20: 15
        0
        More details please.
    4. real
      real 31 March 2014 23: 19
      0
      At the very beginning of the 15th century, China, having the best and most powerful fleet of that time in the world, abandoned world military expansion, for this reason even burned its super fleet !!! The decision was extremely wise - to conquer the world is not the most difficult, the most difficult is to keep it, which in principle is unreal! Already 600 years ago, Kikai, being the largest economy in the world, understood this perfectly !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      1. krechet-1978
        krechet-1978 April 1 2014 00: 07
        +2
        If I tell you that these ships were not built by the Chinese at all, then you will not believe me. They can also say after 600 years that the Kazakhs built Baikonur and wanted to conquer the universe, but they changed their minds and forgot all space technologies and simply began to herd the flocks. Shipbuilding, navigation, oceanography, cartography, training of officers and sailors - all this does not appear suddenly and cannot disappear without a trace. China has been on land all the way, think about it.
    5. jktu66
      jktu66 April 1 2014 00: 10
      +2
      I agree. If China teaches its strength, Russia will not need it. And China considers friendship to be a manifestation of weakness. So if it will be an ally, then it will be temporary.
    6. kr33sania
      kr33sania April 1 2014 07: 05
      +3
      And who will "see" whom? Even our "brothers" Bulgarians throw us from time to time. Therefore, to be friends, albeit with China, you need to PRAGMATICALLY, not stick your finger in your mouth, watch the bazaar.
  4. Alekseev
    Alekseev 31 March 2014 19: 27
    +7
    "... the front pages of Chinese state publications leave not the slightest doubt:" In the confrontation between Russia and the West, the most populous country in the world is on the side of the largest country. "
    Zelo glad! True noticed!
    I hope that China will largely replace in economic cooperation the most ardent opponents of Russia (and, accordingly, friends of banderlogs)
    Reasonable reorientation to the East will lead to strategic partnership of the Russian Federation and China and allied relations. The United States will have to scratch its turnips great before embarking on yet another adventure.
  5. APASUS
    APASUS 31 March 2014 19: 29
    +8
    China wants to become the number 1 economy in the world and move the United States. To do this, it does not need a knife in the back of its neighbor, they will support Russia in every possible way, of course not forgetting about their main goal. This was just the right opportunity to bring countries closer in the wake of contradictions with By the West. I think the next year will be announced breakthrough economic contracts in the financial, technological and military spheres of the two countries.
    1. polite people
      polite people 31 March 2014 21: 59
      -5
      He wants to take Siberia and that’s it.
      1. Mainbeam
        Mainbeam 31 March 2014 22: 56
        0
        Quote: polite people
        He wants to take Siberia and that’s it.

        I think who lives in Ulan-Ude can state this as a fact
      2. real
        real 31 March 2014 23: 42
        +3
        North America has two neighbors, the United States and Canada. The situation between them is similar to the situation between Russia and China. The US population is 2 times larger than Canada. The US economy is 10 times larger than the Canadian economy. The US Army and Navy are hundreds, not thousands of times stronger than the Canadian Army (given that Canada is a non-nuclear country) .... .Why so far the USA has not conquered Canada's weak (compared to them) ?????????????????????????????????? ?? Rather, the question must be posed differently: what is the point of conquering the states by military means Canada ???? I will answer, there is no point !!! Moreover, for the states it will be tantamount to suicide !!! It’s like neighbors on the porch — if the neighbors start setting fire to each other’s apartment, then the whole porch will burn !!!!
      3. Alekseev
        Alekseev April 1 2014 07: 34
        0
        Quote: polite people
        He wants to take Siberia and that’s it.

        Wants to take Siberia? But he doesn’t take it. Why? Yes, the horse understands why.
        For China, Siberia is important as a source of the raw materials it needs, for Siberian raw materials and semi-finished products, the PRC is needed as a sales market. And something to "take" from a nuclear power ... It is much easier and cheaper to buy. To take something away from us, it is necessary to destroy the Russian Federation even worse than Ukraine.
        But those who want to take Ukraine now have to stop with an iron rod in the Crimea. yes
  6. Vita_vko
    Vita_vko 31 March 2014 19: 31
    +2
    It is time to create integrated missile defense systems throughout the Eurasian continent with the participation of states that really care about their own security. And this is not only China, but also India, Iran. Thus, Russia will be able to significantly expand the regions covered by anti-ballistic missile systems, including Siberia and the Far East. The Chinese fleet has already contributed to the US confrontation off the coast of Syria. In addition, since the 90s, China has always supported Russia and in the fight against terrorism in the Caucasus, Yugoslavia, supported in South Ossetia and now in Ukraine. With all due respect to Russia's closest official CSTO and CU allies, they did not have such a consistent position in supporting Russia’s actions to protect its interests and its citizens. Therefore, it is one thing to sign papers on cooperation and strategic partnership, and it is quite another in the UN and in the international arena, with the help of our own forces, to support the rights of peoples to non-interference in internal affairs.
    When a state’s policy is not influenced by the West, but is based on its own national interests, building long-term friendly relations with such states is quite easy and simple, and most importantly there is no risk of getting a stab in the back.
  7. techmesh
    techmesh 31 March 2014 19: 31
    +21
    China needs the support of a strong country like Russia, with such ambitions for Taiwan, disputed islands, dominance in the Pacific, etc. And of course, weapons from Russia, Ukraine.
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/869/hjeu482.jpg
    1. niki233
      niki233 31 March 2014 19: 36
      +2
      per picture +++ straight to the point. laughing
    2. polite people
      polite people 31 March 2014 21: 59
      +1
      They just hide in the shadow of Big Brother. The forces are accumulating.
    3. Sergey Sitnikov
      Sergey Sitnikov 31 March 2014 22: 01
      0
      the bear’s face is exactly the same as that of my car mechanic))), as it were, it’s warned me !!! In general, the artist was in my opinion in the Russian type
    4. papik09
      papik09 April 1 2014 06: 34
      0
      And a tiger with such a smirk is sneaking, already goosebumps are running, like you didn’t wait for me, and I’m your scribe wassat laughing laughing good
  8. krechet-1978
    krechet-1978 31 March 2014 19: 34
    -4
    China’s support, of course, is important in this situation, but ... Manchuria will have to be returned to Russia all the way to the Chinese Wall.
    1. nikcris
      nikcris 31 March 2014 19: 44
      +2
      What for? Our borders are natural, it seems. belay CER, Far and Port Arthur returned to China Stalin, if I'm not mistaken - too lazy to climb into Wiki.
      1. krechet-1978
        krechet-1978 31 March 2014 19: 55
        -4
        With China, the Russian border passed through the Chinese wall somewhere until the 17 century — this wall is the line of demarcation. Well, the port of Dalniy (now Dalian) and the port of Arthur with the CER were built by Russia and we have the right to them about the same as to Sevastopol. Although it is already in Chinese territory.
        1. vlad_m
          vlad_m 31 March 2014 21: 46
          +10
          With China, the Russian border went somewhere along the Chinese wall until the 17th century - this wall is the line of demarcation. Well, the port of Dalniy (now Dalian) and the port of Arthur with the CER were built by Russia and we have the right to them about the same as to Sevastopol.



          Do not stir up the water and do not rub! Do not know the history of the Russian State - read the textbook!

          The Russian-Chinese border in its current framework in the East of the country took place only in 1860, when, according to the Beijing Treaty, most of northern Manchuria (including Sakhalin Island), which had previously belonged to China, was transferred to Russia. Until the 16th century, there was a Tungus state on the territory of northern Manchuria !!! Self-sufficient! Which then did not yet know Russia and subsequently, as a result of internecine wars and external dangers, was greatly weakened and annexed to China. The city of Vladivostok is the Russian name of the Chinese settlement, which in translation from Chinese sounds like "Bay of the Blue Trepanga". From time immemorial, the Chinese mined trepangs in the waters of the Far East, and in the Ussuri taiga, Ginseng, tigers, bears and maral antlers. Until Muravyov-Amursky concluded an agreement with the Chinese emperor on new borders, along which Primorye was ceded to Russia in 1860. And until Mikhail Yankovsky ("NENUNI" = "Four-Eyed") Russian Pole, an exiled convict, declared war on the Khun-khuz and poachers in the Primorye.

          Dalian. Port Arthur and the CER - never belonged to Russia. These are just leased territories within the borders of another state for various purposes.

          Learn the story! Do not be lazy to check certain statements and postulates uttered by strangers in DIFFERENT sources.
          Only in this case it will be difficult for you to play a tricked head. Do not be maid idiots.

          That’s exactly how the brain is turned over. Here they lied a little. There they corrected the story quite a bit ... for a grammar of everything ...
          But in the end it turns out-Russia poisoned the Ukrainians with a famine !!!
          1. not main
            not main 31 March 2014 23: 29
            +2
            Quote: vlad_m
            That’s exactly how the brain is turned over. Here they lied a little. There they corrected the story quite a bit ... for a grammar of everything ...
            But in the end it turns out-Russia poisoned the Ukrainians with a famine !!!

            As they say, they ripped off the tongue! Thank! Very accurately in the theses the history of our east, by the way, he is not distant, he is RUSSIAN!
          2. krechet-1978
            krechet-1978 April 1 2014 00: 52
            +1
            The official story is fiction. Try not only to read, learn to think and look at things more voluminously. You probably think that the Mongols were conquerors of the world, the Tatar-Mongol yoke and all that and that the Swedes brought statehood to Russia)))))
          3. krechet-1978
            krechet-1978 April 1 2014 01: 02
            +1
            If for thousands of years the Russians did not hold back the expansion of the Chinese within the empire of the Great Dragon, then now the border with China would pass, at best, along the Ural Mountains. It is obvious.
  9. Baloo
    Baloo 31 March 2014 19: 35
    +3
    China has already become the No. 1 economy and the No. 1 moneylender. Just a little information.
    Do you know the secret military plan to capture America by the Chinese? Just don’t tell anyone, this is a secret!
    500 million unarmed polite Chinese in boats sail on both sides to America, go ashore at once, jump up at the same time and say: Yankees, take us prisoner.
    1. nikcris
      nikcris 31 March 2014 19: 50
      +1
      What will they sail to the second side? wassat And if 500 Chinese people go somewhere, then the Chinese who are left out of work will be torn apart. Vietnamese and Uzbeks.)))
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 31 March 2014 22: 00
        0
        Quote: nikcris
        What will they sail to the second side? And if 500 Chinese people go somewhere, then the Chinese who are left out of work will be torn apart. Vietnamese and Uzbeks.)))

        There is a shortage of Chinese women. Since ultrasound tests appeared to determine the sex of the embryo, girls are often aborted there. Barbarism, of course, but the reason is clear. In China, there is NO pension system for the vast majority of the population. Traditionally, the elderly are supported by the younger son, and this is their social security. And the daughter, getting married, goes to her husband's family. Taking into account the policy of "one family - one child", naturally everyone is trying to have a son, and therefore daughters are aborted, killed, thrown out into the street and pretended that they were not there.
        As a result, millions of boys entering the time have no chance to find a mate, and this is mainly the poor. If millions of angry young men who have nothing to lose and nothing to live for rise, power will be swept away. The authorities understand this.
        And where can these young Chinese be placed to keep them under control? That's right, the army. How long do you think even a rich state can keep a multi-million dollar army and not use it for practical benefits? Even America regularly uses what it has, while China has much less resources. Well, think about in which direction China will use this army? Take a look at the map of China. To the right - the ocean, you can't cross the boat, and even there "Nimitzs" interfere with escorts. Down - Indochina, the impenetrable jungle and even less passable Vietnamese, even America at its peak of power did not pass them, and in 1978 they piled the Chinese in such a way that they no longer poke their heads. There are high mountains to the left, it is a pleasure to defend there, but to attack is madness, and the turkeys will object with very weighty arguments.
        It remains only up, but what is there? The border is practically not covered. The lands are practically not populated, not spoiled, fossils - just dig, forests - they just drank ... Troops - yes, there are, but few, they are simply overwhelmed with cannon fodder, which is not a pity. And Nicholas II tried to transfer reinforcements from Europe without much success, but how much has the capacity of the Trans-Siberian Railway increased since then? Well, is there anything to think about?
  10. Cossacks
    Cossacks 31 March 2014 19: 38
    +3
    How can you not remember the ancient Chinese wisdom. NICE. which is translated: be serene, like a lotus flower at the foot of the temple of eternity.
  11. ataman555
    ataman555 31 March 2014 19: 39
    +4
    A good union is a bear and a dragon !!!
    1. Andreitch
      Andreitch 31 March 2014 20: 37
      0
      Maybe good, but not the best. From a geopolitical point of view, it is better to "be friends" with India against the United States, and then China.
    2. Semurg
      Semurg 31 March 2014 20: 50
      -1
      Quote: ataman555
      A good union is a bear and a dragon !!!

      Ukraine once lent the port and land in Crimea to China, how will this issue be resolved now - will you show China or confirm the agreement? A quarrel between the Russian Federation and the West is doubly beneficial for China and will receive weapons either from the Russian Federation or from the West. And the energy resources of the Russian Federation will supply at prices favorable to China if the West imposes sanctions.
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  12. Giant thought
    Giant thought 31 March 2014 19: 49
    +2
    We must be friends with China, but carefully. The military-political union had to be concluded yesterday. It’s good when there is someone who at the crucial moment will cover his back.
    1. real
      real 31 March 2014 23: 58
      0
      From such a union, the benefits are mutual !!! Russia and China cover their backs to each other !!! This is clearly visible on the map. Everything ingenious is simple !!!
    2. Lelek
      Lelek April 1 2014 01: 37
      +3
      They will cover until the Urals. fool
  13. Grbear
    Grbear 31 March 2014 19: 50
    +1
    The whole world just "grunted" when Russia acquired 27 thousand square meters. km of land and the same amount of sea. But you have to be very careful with the Chinese. They will twist everything out of everyone, promising support. But support will be much more serious than NATO dry rations, and they will ask for real dividends. hi
  14. konvalval
    konvalval 31 March 2014 19: 54
    +4
    The Chinese people are pragmatic. Losing them such a partner is not profitable for the economy. And the weak west is in their hands.
  15. alex-cn
    alex-cn 31 March 2014 19: 59
    -3
    Friendship with China is good ... But if the Chinese want it, they can grow only in the Far East and Siberia, and by no means in the disputed islands ...
  16. Ivan 63
    Ivan 63 31 March 2014 20: 00
    +3
    The Chinese are good fellows, the people are hardworking and united, including those abroad - we do not have enough of these qualities. And I didn’t hear about the fifth column - again we’ll have a minus (we will not crush the reptile in any way) In general, all these "euro-values" are empty crap, values ​​can only be national.
    1. alex-cn
      alex-cn 31 March 2014 20: 04
      0
      Then forget Shakespeare and Brecht, Goethe and Roland. You can’t be locked only inside yourself - it's rot!
  17. Humpty
    Humpty 31 March 2014 20: 05
    0
    The Chinese have only their own interests, nor any altruism. Their immediate goal is Taiwan. This is a matter of honor for them.
    1. Putler
      Putler 31 March 2014 20: 31
      -15%
      Yes, China has its own interests. Only this is not Taiwan, but the Far East of Russia. We are waiting for guests)))
      1. maxcor1974
        maxcor1974 31 March 2014 22: 37
        +3
        It is very interesting to watch how pro-Western trolls perked up with news of a possible alliance between China and Russia. This is a nightmare of the State Department and NATO. Here are the guys and invent night horror stories about the Chinese threat.
        But let me, as a person who was born and served in the Far East, bring to you the simple fact that the northeastern regions of China, somehow, are not popular with the local population, and by their standards are considered sparsely populated. In addition, the border areas are an area of ​​compact residence of Koreans. Well, for some reason, they are not drawn to either the Mongolian or the Daurian steppes. The Primorsky Territory is, of course, a more appetizing piece, but Russia's strategic nuclear forces have a sobering effect on hotheads. Therefore, the union between our countries is good for our peoples and a big hemorrhoid for "Western friends"!
        1. krechet-1978
          krechet-1978 April 1 2014 00: 29
          0
          Hundreds of years ago, our then border guards stood on the Great Wall of China and instilled in the Chinese people a superstitious fear, a taboo on crossing the wall and going to foreign terrible northern lands. Ordinary Chinese still remember this, but we forgot. I heard that the Chinese are trying to bury their dead south of the Chinese wall i.e. being dragged to the "homeland".
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  18. upasika1918
    upasika1918 31 March 2014 20: 12
    +8
    China is China. Courtesy and hardness. No rudeness. Respect. And this should be mutual. Rudeness China never forgives anyone. An example of Japan to all is science.
    1. I read the news
      I read the news 31 March 2014 21: 03
      +1
      Please recall how China responded there to Japan?
      1. SkiF_RnD
        SkiF_RnD 31 March 2014 23: 15
        +1
        I, too, did not quite understand. The Chinese will take revenge on the Japanese very much, if there is an opportunity, this is not to go to a fortuneteller. But it seems they have not yet taken revenge.
    2. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I April 1 2014 03: 10
      +3
      Upasika1918: Did you say something with a doo ...- I apologize, have you not fallen from a tree recently? Did you go to rest in Thailand, in Vietnam, in other countries; did you go to China? I didn’t meet more noisy, uncultured people. And in China you can easily encounter overt rudeness, and more and more every year. By the way, you can also meet Chinese rudeness in Thailand and Vietnam.
  19. Monk
    Monk 31 March 2014 20: 13
    +8
    Quote: tech laughter
    China needs the support of a strong country like Russia, with such ambitions for Taiwan, disputed islands, dominance in the Pacific, etc. And of course, weapons from Russia, Ukraine.
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/869/hjeu482.jpg


    China needs a strong Russia, just like Russia needs a strong China. May 1, Vladimir Putin flies to China, the result of the trip will be another blow to the states and the west, after which neither the west nor the states can rise .. We are waiting ....
    1. Lelek
      Lelek April 1 2014 01: 40
      +2
      You need to be friends with China only if you are against someone. hi
  20. delfinN
    delfinN 31 March 2014 20: 13
    +8
    Chinas understands that if it remains without the support of Russia, it will be devoured!
  21. Putler
    Putler 31 March 2014 20: 27
    -45%
    Quote: smel
    It’s not bad that China supports us.

    And who said that China supports the Russian Federation?
    None of the latest resolutions on Crimea and Ukraine were supported by China!
    RUSSIA was supported by:
    1. DPRK totalitarian leader Kim Jong-un. The leader of a country where every year hundreds of thousands of inhabitants die of hunger;
    2. The totalitarian leader of Zimbabwe, Robert Mugabe. The 92-year-old president of the country with the highest inflation rate in the world;
    3. The totalitarian leader of Cuba, Raul Castro. The leader of a country stuck in its development somewhere in the 60s.
    4. Bashar Assad - it is not clear whether he is a leader at all if a civil war has been going on in his country for the fourth year and more than 120 thousand people have died;
    5. sly fox Old Man Luka. There are no comments ....
    etc. only 10 such offended, "mega civilized and developed countries."
    Worthy entourage of "democrat" PUTLER))
    1. Luga
      Luga 31 March 2014 21: 33
      +5
      Quote: Putler
      Worthy entourage of "democrat" PUTLER))

      No, I still could not stand it. Minus. However, you probably do not care.
      But still I will express myself.

      Any bright and strong leader, having come to power, first of all strengthens the power, because otherwise it is impossible to govern the state. Any power is coercion. Calmness and satiety in the state is achieved only with firm and consistent power. In any society, there are always those who consider themselves smarter than everyone; they constitute an opposition to the authorities. The opposition can and should pull the state cart in its direction and, thus, influence the trajectory of its movement. But if the opposition pulls back, and not forward, not correcting, but slowing down the movement, it’s not the opposition, but the wreckers. How would you react to a neighbor who did not agree with the decision of the rest of the tenants to install the intercom, began to crap at the entrance?

      So do not touch the one who brings order to your house.
      1. Mainbeam
        Mainbeam 31 March 2014 22: 11
        -4
        Quote: Luga
        Any bright and strong leader, having come to power, first of all strengthens the power, because otherwise it is impossible to govern the state. Any power is coercion. Calmness and satiety in the state is achieved only with firm and consistent power.

        The correct statement, but very controversial. So you and the Right Sector can justify.

        Of the two equivalent rational decisions, one must choose the most moral,
        and from moral alternatives - the most rational

        And here the question of morality arises, which he raised in his commentary PutlerIs it crooked, oblique, accessible, reasonably ...? And as usual on the forum, misunderstanding is a matter of minus comments.
        1. Luga
          Luga April 1 2014 00: 17
          +1
          Quote: MainBeam
          And here the question of morality arises, which Putler raised in his comment,

          You know, I never put a minus if I simply do not agree with any statement. In this case, I was outraged by the form of presentation of information, expressing a clear disrespect for the vast majority of those present.
          Any freedom must have borders and freedom of speech is no exception. Our state can be identified with the fascist one, and it’s absolutely unreasonable (should I justify why it is unreasonable?) Can only be our enemy, or a weak and not so smart person who is able to operate only with cliches introduced to him, who has come under his influence. I think that the user whose comment I commented refers to the second category.
          As for the first part of your message
          Quote: MainBeam
          So you and the Right Sector can justify.
          , I could not determine exactly what I brought you to such an idea. Firm and consistent power does not need such an instrument of its maintenance as terror. The right sector, the NSDAP, any political associations proclaiming the division of people into conditionally worthy and conditionally unworthy on a racial or national basis, in my face have the most fierce and implacable opponent.
          1. Mainbeam
            Mainbeam April 3 2014 13: 44
            0
            Quote: Luga
            I could not determine what exactly I brought you to such a thought


            Having come to power, first of all it strengthens power, because otherwise it is impossible to govern the state. Any power is coercion.


            Any change of power leads to purges, replacement of subordinate cadres throughout the entire vertical of power. And the higher the change, the more permutations. And the more "course change", the more blood will be shed with these permutations. Prison or firing squad.

            There are no exceptions. October 17, Cuba 59. You can treat them differently. For some, October 17 is the formation of the Soviet Union, and for some, the execution of the royal family with women and children.

            Maidan-2013 - also a coup. If the power consolidates, then the purges in the state apparatus, police, in the army, in schools will begin ... They recognize the power as legitimate - they will justify the purges, no matter how much blood is spilled.

            For some, GDP is a hero, Crimea defended. And for some - a tyrant: put Khodorkovsky, released Serdyukov ...

            The question of morality on whose side you stand.

      2. real
        real April 1 2014 00: 08
        0
        Very accurate comparison! Bravo!!!
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    3. nezabor
      nezabor 31 March 2014 22: 38
      +1
      battle bot?))) registered a campaign for the sake of GNV
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    5. nomad74
      nomad74 April 1 2014 00: 34
      0
      [quote = Putler
      Are you trying for a salary or for European gay values? or maybe you yourself ..dork? They wrote in the profile that you like to wear a kokoshnik!
    6. papik09
      papik09 April 1 2014 07: 12
      0
      You dob. or where? Probably the same. fool
  22. datur
    datur 31 March 2014 20: 37
    0
    Taiwan, Taiwan --- Thank you, you help !!! drinks love repeat fellow
  23. StrateG
    StrateG 31 March 2014 20: 38
    +2
    Worthy entourage of "democrat" PUTLER))


    I have long noticed that Putin is making alliances with those who oppose the United States in one way or another. The countries you have listed above are unrecognized by the West, which means that they theoretically cannot harm us in favor of the West. Putin is building a coalition, a coalition against the West.
  24. Luga
    Luga 31 March 2014 20: 52
    +2
    The lawlessness that has recently been strongly enforced in the unipolar world by mattresses and their relatives, sooner or later should have bothered. Now the world has a chance to return to the real legal field when resolving contentious issues. Those principles that were originally laid down in the foundations of international law are not in themselves bad, but they can only be enforced if there is a balance of power in the international arena.
    The thriving economies (not only China) are interested in restoring such a balance, but the luminaries, "giants" of world politics, are quite the opposite, because in a fair competition they are likely to lose.
    China and the rest, interested in rebuilding the world, were restrained in this desire only by the absence of a military counterweight to the power of mattresses. Now this counterbalance is found, or rather, found and has shown its effectiveness. Conclusion: Russia needs to be used as a shield, supporting this shield both morally and financially, in order to solve its own problems under its protection, crowding out states from everywhere where they can be crowded out in the economic sphere.
    That is, by making such a curtsy in our direction, the Chinese certainly rely on reciprocal understanding and support, which they will certainly need in the near future.
    And we need to decide who we are - the leaders and inspirers of the "resistance movement" or "security company" in the service of customs unions and other BRICS. The first role is much more difficult, honorable, more profitable and more responsible, but I am afraid that the second is being prepared for us by our eastern partners.
    One has to be careful. Any dependence - from China or from geyropa - is fraught with a loss of independence in the choice of goals and methods of struggle in the international arena.
    1. Mainbeam
      Mainbeam 31 March 2014 22: 49
      +1
      Quote: Luga
      Conclusion: you need to use Russia as a shield, supporting this shield both morally and financially, in order to solve your own problems under its protection, crowding out the states from everywhere, from where they can be crowded out in the economic sphere

      An interesting point of view. I have never met such a comparison.
  25. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 31 March 2014 21: 07
    +2
    Quote: Putler
    And who said that China supports the Russian Federation?


    I have a question for Putleru, where such idiots live, you are the victim of an unsuccessful abortion, stop spitting with poisonous saliva, otherwise we are afraid of contracting rabies. And Russia has been destroying such angry yapping jackals as rabid dogs for all ages.
    1. papik09
      papik09 April 1 2014 07: 19
      0
      About Putlere.
      Unfortunately, it’s too late for an abortion, but what parents didn’t do is forced to finish the society ... drinks
  26. lambert
    lambert 31 March 2014 21: 11
    +5
    Quote: Putler
    Quote: smel
    It’s not bad that China supports us.

    And who said that China supports the Russian Federation?
    None of the latest resolutions on Crimea and Ukraine were supported by China!
    RUSSIA was supported by:
    1. DPRK totalitarian leader Kim Jong-un. The leader of a country where every year hundreds of thousands of inhabitants die of hunger;
    2. The totalitarian leader of Zimbabwe, Robert Mugabe. The 92-year-old president of the country with the highest inflation rate in the world;
    3. The totalitarian leader of Cuba, Raul Castro. The leader of a country stuck in its development somewhere in the 60s.
    4. Bashar Assad - it is not clear whether he is a leader at all if a civil war has been going on in his country for the fourth year and more than 120 thousand people have died;
    5. sly fox Old Man Luka. There are no comments ....
    etc. only 10 such offended, "mega civilized and developed countries."
    Worthy entourage of "democrat" PUTLER))


    Specify the number of people in the DPRK in 2013 - 24 million. When they all die. And who told you that they are starving
    Zimbabwean leader himself appointed to the post and who chose him
    In Cuba, unlike all the glorious states of Europe, cancer is treated for free, I would like to live in the 60s in the USSR, ice cream for 20 cents. lemonade for 22 kopecks. Happiness.
    Bashar al-Assad is at war for 4 years and while the people support him. It’s strange, but also a totalitarian leader
    I would not say that it is bad in Belarus. If it would be in Russia as well, it would be better to live in Russia.

    In general, nothing concrete has been said. One inflating cheeks. The boy cannot even work out the money with his arguments ...
    1. Putler
      Putler April 1 2014 00: 43
      -6
      Over the past 20 years, up to 3 MILLION people have died from starvation in the DPRK!
      Read wikipedia, news sites ...
      So, truly - worthy allies of the PUTLER now!
      Go Russia!!!!!!!
  27. doc62
    doc62 31 March 2014 21: 48
    0
    the Chinese are cunning
  28. Bargus
    Bargus 31 March 2014 22: 13
    0
    Having a multi-billion dollar ally is good, but it’s better to have a multi-billion friend and China is considered to be such, although there are some differences, but nevertheless, the Chinese people are grateful to Russia for liberation from the Japanese genocide, and this is worth a lot. And the culture of China is wiser and richer than that of gay Europe and the United States taken together. Only history knows what kind of ties and roots of culture connect two great nations like Russia and China. And this is not an unimportant fact, and there is another topic for this comment.
  29. Sergey Sitnikov
    Sergey Sitnikov 31 March 2014 22: 22
    +3
    (((((Where did such fools come from ?? writes in Russian, it means he studied at our school, we seem to be normal, normal girls and such misunderstandings are born ((. How so? Well, God bless you - I do not like Russia so go away, forget everything and everyone, you will find work in the West, they will respect you there, they will give you all the freedoms, Putler needs them, oh damn forgot - you don’t speak their language, you can’t speak so as not to cause laughter ... It is the presence of such rats among the Russians that compels us to agree with Molotov, who until the end of his life was convinced of the correctness of the repressions, for parasites must be destroyed.
  30. onizhe
    onizhe 31 March 2014 22: 26
    +2
    China is a very dangerous ally. Smiles, nods, and the rod is not childish. In Africa, they are already everywhere ousting us from our own possessions such as Angola. The point is not racial alertness, but their history. They assimilate everything they touch. In addition, they also have historical claims to our Far East. For our part, everything is in order, but how is it taught to them? They generally consider themselves descendants of the Pithecanthropus, so what moral obligations can they have for us?
  31. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 31 March 2014 22: 41
    +1
    [quote = polite person]
    Today, 21: 59
    He wants to take Siberia and that’s it.

    But they crap, not Siberia. But the Far East is quietly chopped off. What, in general, they are successfully doing, creeping occupation is called. With so many people, we won’t hold such territory. One thing pleases - by the time the Khan 3,14ndosers came, and it would be possible to seriously think about a single world government.
    1. voliador
      voliador 31 March 2014 23: 15
      0
      And who will control this government, that’s the question.
  32. krechet-1978
    krechet-1978 31 March 2014 22: 45
    +1
    Judging by the minuses to the comments, this forum has a very strong Chinese lobby)))))
  33. voliador
    voliador 31 March 2014 23: 14
    0
    I don’t know what the Chinese think, but their position is clearly due to their problem with Taiwan. Soon they will begin to rock this problem, and will expect support from us. The question is how they will do it.
  34. Putler
    Putler 31 March 2014 23: 19
    -8
    Quote: maxcor1974
    are popular among the local population, and by their standards they are considered

    Quote: StrateG
    Worthy entourage of "democrat" PUTLER))


    I have long noticed that Putin is making alliances with those who oppose the United States in one way or another. Putin is building a coalition, a coalition against the West.

    Cool coalition! Crazy Kim Jong-un with a million-strong army and people starving to death and Mugabe who has survived from the mind))
    By the way, in North Korea, they obligated all men to cut their hair like Kim Jong-un. In Russia, not yet cut, like a putler?)))
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    2. FREGATENKAPITAN
      FREGATENKAPITAN April 1 2014 06: 52
      0
      You’re scribbling Emelya? ... We’ll go on further! .... But Crimea is still ours !. Though choke on saliva ....... you won’t change anything, even if you lick the boots with the tongues of the states!
  35. 11111mail.ru
    11111mail.ru 31 March 2014 23: 25
    0
    Let's not forget about the wise parable of the great helmsman about two fighting tigers and a monkey watching the process from a tree. When the tigers fell lifeless, the monkey came down from the tree and skinned them.
  36. pvv113
    pvv113 31 March 2014 23: 31
    +6
    The West (especially the USA), on the contrary, will receive considerable problems
    Sometimes there is even a suspicion that they are doing everything possible to find another adventure on their ass. In the end, they find it and immediately try to blame someone for their adventures. As Zadornov says: - Well, stupid !!!
  37. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 April 1 2014 00: 19
    0
    Quote: serega.fedotov
    But the fact that the first-line conscripts in China is more than a hundred million, we must remember!

    I think China will not let you down. Yes, and the example of other aggressor countries against Russia in world history will not make a fatal mistake.
  38. 2front
    2front April 1 2014 00: 31
    0
    Quote: Putler
    Quote: smel
    It’s not bad that China supports us.

    And who said that China supports the Russian Federation?
    None of the latest resolutions on Crimea and Ukraine were supported by China!
    RUSSIA was supported by:
    1. DPRK totalitarian leader Kim Jong-un. The leader of a country where every year hundreds of thousands of inhabitants die of hunger;
    2. The totalitarian leader of Zimbabwe, Robert Mugabe. The 92-year-old president of the country with the highest inflation rate in the world;
    3. The totalitarian leader of Cuba, Raul Castro. The leader of a country stuck in its development somewhere in the 60s.
    4. Bashar Assad - it is not clear whether he is a leader at all if a civil war has been going on in his country for the fourth year and more than 120 thousand people have died;
    5. sly fox Old Man Luka. There are no comments ....
    etc. only 10 such offended, "mega civilized and developed countries."
    Worthy entourage of "democrat" PUTLER))

    Only 3 allies from this list are enough to bend the whole world. China + India + Belarus.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek April 1 2014 01: 49
      +3
      Do not flatter yourself. The slightest weakness on our part and these friends will be on the other side of the barrier. Our inner unity is our strength. soldier
      1. Putler
        Putler April 1 2014 02: 13
        -8
        The problem is that RUSSIA already has NO FRIENDS !!!!!!
        No matter how regrettable it may sound, but IZOLYATSIA RF is a FACT !!!!!!
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        2. FREGATENKAPITAN
          FREGATENKAPITAN April 1 2014 06: 41
          0
          For tr * olej I inform ... The BRICS countries on the side of Russia, this is more than half the world's population. Plus Argentina, etc ..... What insulation? The USA and a bunch of stinky Europe are far from the whole Universe! It would be time for them and you to understand that already!
    2. Putler
      Putler April 1 2014 02: 03
      -5
      I wonder where in the list of opponents of the resolution on the Crimea, China and India ???
      China and India DO NOT SUPPORT RUSSIA !!!!!!!
      But the Russian Federation was supported by Robert Mugabe, who is 92 years old.
      Truly worthy coalition: RF + Zimbabwe + DPRK
      RZHUNIMAGU))))) laughing
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      2. FREGATENKAPITAN
        FREGATENKAPITAN April 1 2014 06: 46
        0
        Abstained or did not take part in the vote, this is the diplomatic support of Russia ....... Politics are much more subtle than lies on websites
  39. Putler
    Putler April 1 2014 00: 35
    -7
    Quote: maxcor1974
    But let me, as a person born and serving in the Far East, bring to you the simple fact that the northeastern regions of China, as it is, are not popular among the local population, and by their standards they are considered sparsely populated.

    Well, if the fact of residence of more than 120 MILLION Chinese in provinces in the northeast of the PRC is a fact of unattractiveness of this part of the country, then what can we say about the attractiveness of the Far East of the Russian Federation, where about 7 million Russian citizens live (17 times !!!! less than Chinese in the areas bordering the Russian Federation).
    In addition, from 5 to 10 million ethnic Chinese live in Russia itself!
    What is no reason to bring troops into Russia ??????
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    2. FREGATENKAPITAN
      FREGATENKAPITAN April 1 2014 06: 37
      0
      For China, 120 million ............... is less than for Russia 7 million Far East :)
  40. krechet-1978
    krechet-1978 April 1 2014 00: 42
    0
    By the way, the old calendar, which was canceled only by Peter 1, counted the years from the date of signing the peace treaty after the victory of the power of the Great Race (Russia) over the empire of the Great Dragon (China). Now on this calendar 7522 year is coming. In general, I, too, for Russia to use China for its own purposes to the fullest in the fight against Western parasites.
    1. VNP1958PVN
      VNP1958PVN April 1 2014 02: 58
      0
      Use a condom!
  41. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf April 1 2014 04: 01
    0
    It is not a matter of how, in what, and by how much, China supports Russia.
    This is politics!
    The interests of the two powers coincide! So you need to use and make the most of this tandem! And China understands this well.
    The Chinese are not cunning, they are cautious in actions and statements. By the fact that their decision is already a program that must be strictly followed.
  42. DS14
    DS14 April 1 2014 04: 51
    0
    Maybe that’s why?

  43. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 April 1 2014 05: 39
    0
    It's just that China has Hong Kong, which can also hold a referendum. Today he is in a dual position, like China, but at the same time a protectorate of England.
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    2. FREGATENKAPITAN
      FREGATENKAPITAN April 1 2014 06: 29
      0
      Well, colleague, what do you give me a disuz ........ since 1997, Hong Kong has been under the sovereignty of the People's Republic of China, until 2047, conditions for a transitional period with extended autonomy of Hong Kong have been created ......... So that For a long time now, Great Britain has nothing to do with it! .............. But China supports Russia in the issue of Crimea and Ukraine because in the confrontation with the US the Russian Federation is the only powerful ally, plus China there are also unresolved problems of Taiwan, Tibet, ...... with the Uighurs there are questions, Paracel Islands, etc.
    3. papik09
      papik09 April 1 2014 07: 24
      0
      In fact, Hong Kong returned to China a few years ago repeat
  44. kind
    kind April 1 2014 08: 07
    0
    why in China support the actions of Russia?

    They are now learning from Russia, adopting strategy and tactics in politics. If they do everything right and not to the detriment of Russia, then soon the United States and Europe will be so bent that they will stand cancer for a long time! yes
  45. edissson
    edissson April 1 2014 08: 54
    0
    Why the PRC did not openly support the Russian Federation in the UN General Assembly, so it is in Tibet! Suddenly, there will be an Asian-Maidan.
  46. Alekseev
    Alekseev April 1 2014 14: 49
    0
    Quote: Samaritan
    He will go against the USA, the market will be cut, plants will rise against Russia ...

    It is not clear how it is possible to "choke off the market" for China, if the American companies themselves transferred their production to the PRC for the simple reason that it is more profitable there than in the USA?
    And how can you "chop up the market" for a country with more than 3 trillion US dollars. Would such a policy not completely cut off the American currency?
    And Chinese factories supply products far not only to the Russian Federation, but to all world markets, Russia has only a small share.
    For China, it is precisely military-political cooperation with our country. So that the United States and relatives wouldn’t dare even fart harmfully, without really thinking: is it worth it?