Chinese view on Ukrainian events: why support the actions of Russia in the Middle Kingdom

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From the very beginning of the recent events in Crimea, Chinese public opinion has been entirely on the side of Russia. In China, they see what is happening as a clash between Russia and the West, and sympathize with the first.

Back in late February, when the Crimean crisis was just beginning, an editorial of the Huangqiu Shibao newspaper caught my eye with arguments about how the Celestial Empire should treat what is happening in Ukraine.

On the one hand, the article said, Beijing traditionally adheres to the principle of non-interference in the internal affairs of other states (one of the five principles of the PRC's peaceful foreign policy). And he encourages everyone else to do so.

Chinese view on Ukrainian events: why support the actions of Russia in the Middle Kingdom


However, it was noted further, in order to follow this rule in relation to a particular country, including Ukraine, it must have these very internal affairs, that is, all decisions in the state must be made independently and sovereignly.

The meaning of the reasoning in the editorial of the Chinese edition boiled down to the following: it is one thing when it comes to a sovereign state, which, in accordance with its legal and constitutional procedures, determines how to live, what to do, in which direction to develop. In this case, any foreign interference is interference in internal affairs, an encroachment on sovereignty and independence.

But if the state, including its formal leadership, is under external influence and control (although the "state" in this case is a very conditional concept), then interference in the processes taking place in it (on its territory) is interference in affairs external forces controlling such a "state" (or its formal leadership).

In this regard, the editorial staff of "Huangqiu Shibao" asks the question: does Ukraine still have internal affairs, are decisions being made in Kiev? Or are they imposed (prompted) from the outside? And further: interference in "Ukrainian affairs" is interference in the internal affairs of the country or interference in the affairs of the West, which has settled in Ukraine? On this occasion, the material said that "the Ukrainian question has long gone beyond the internal affairs of any country, and Ukraine has long been an arena of struggle between the West and Russia."

“The right to interpret what exactly constitutes domestic politics has belonged to Western countries for many years. They themselves everywhere interfere in the affairs of other states, sometimes even recklessly abusing military forces. But when did they admit it? " - reminds the Chinese edition of the traditional Western hypocrisy and double standards.

By the way, the quite typical title of the article of the American The USA Today of March 21: How the West lost Crimea, "How the West lost Crimea." Not Ukraine, but the West!

Official Beijing has taken a diplomatic, carefully detached position: calls for a peaceful settlement, for resolving controversial issues at the negotiating table, etc.

At the same time, a much more definite position is outlined in the media controlled by the Chinese authorities. For example, the People's Daily says that the situation around Ukraine is "shrouded in the spirit of the Cold War." Russia, under the leadership of Vladimir Putin, "made the West understand that there can be no winners in the Cold War." At the same time, the editorial notes, "the strategic rapprochement between Russia and China will become a bulwark of stability in the world."

The Chinese Global Times harshly criticized Western policy towards Ukraine and stated the "fiasco of the West." The project of creating a pro-Western regime in Kiev "failed and created chaos, which the West has neither the ability nor the wisdom to regulate." What position should China take in this situation? "We cannot disappoint Russia when it has to struggle with difficulties," the Global Times emphasizes, and at such a difficult moment for Moscow, "China must become a reliable strategic partner."

The columnist for the weekly Der Spiegel, commenting on such a loyal attitude of China to Russia's actions, notes that the front pages of Chinese state publications leave not the slightest doubt: "In the confrontation between Russia and the West, the most populous country in the world is on the side of the largest country." By the way, the author's material is accompanied by a poster of the 50s of the last century on the theme of Soviet-Chinese friendship.

Der Spiegel draws attention to the preparation of Moscow and Beijing for the formation of an alliance that can significantly change the balance of world forces. At present, the newspaper reminds, experts of the Russian Foreign Ministry are developing a draft agreement on "military-political cooperation" with the PRC. Although the specific details of the document are not yet known, this agreement "should go much further than the agreement on good-neighborliness, friendship and cooperation signed by Putin in 2001." But this is about the future.

Currently, China can receive bonuses directly from the conflict between the West and Russia over Crimea.

The point is that earlier Moscow (in response to urgent requests from Washington) refused to supply China with a number of Russian weapons systems capable of significantly changing the balance of power in the Pacific Ocean. For example, recalls Der Spiegel, China has long wanted to acquire Project 949A nuclear submarines from the Russian Federation, which are equipped with cruise missiles and can destroy American aircraft carriers. Earlier, influential representatives of the Russian military-industrial complex lobbied for the removal of all restrictions on China. In light of the current circumstances, these calls can be supported by the Kremlin.

China is also interested in military cooperation with Ukraine. However, the latter's rapprochement with the West, especially with the prospect of joining NATO, will negatively affect the military-technical cooperation between Kiev and Beijing, or even put an end to it. “For this reason, China wants Ukraine to remain in the Russian zone of influence,” says Der Spiegel.

Thus, the situation with the sanctions that the West imposes on Russia in connection with its actions in Crimea (including threatening to reduce or completely terminate military-technical cooperation with the Russian Federation) can be used to their advantage by the Chinese. On the contrary, the West (especially the USA) will get considerable problems.

We add that the events around Crimea in China are probably viewed through the prism of the Taiwan problem - in all its aspects, from their own military capabilities to the need to have strategic partners / allies capable of covering the rear and providing at least diplomatic support. In Beijing, after all, they probably expect sooner or later to read an article in some American edition under the heading How the West lost Taiwan.
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  1. +17
    31 March 2014 19: 19
    It's not bad that China is supporting us. But still, do not forget that Russia has 2 allies. This postulate has been valid for 150 years. And will continue to be relevant.
    1. 0
      31 March 2014 19: 41
      [quote = smel] It's not bad that China supports us ... It is rather neutral in the middle ... He will go against the US, the market will be cut down, the factories will stand up against Russia ... So they hang out like ... In an ice hole
      1. +5
        31 March 2014 21: 59
        He is not neutral, but more in our direction. And what to him - the self-determination of Crimea is a good reason to remember the Taiwan problem. If they don't impose sanctions on Russia, it's good, they will remember the friendly step. They will introduce - great, Russia will become dependent on Beijing for the most it can not. But they won't tear the shirt for our interests either.
        1. +2
          April 1 2014 01: 27
          In addition, China has a paper interest in Ukraine - Ukraine's debt of $ 2 billion. fellow
          1. +1
            April 1 2014 05: 33
            Against the background of geopolitics, this is just a shell.
          2. 0
            April 1 2014 07: 58
            Quote: Lelek
            In addition, China has a paper interest in Ukraine - Ukraine's debt of $ 2 billion.

            ---------------------------------
            China has a huge gas interest in Russia, in the transition from the coal (from the word "coal") format of its energy to a more environmentally friendly ...
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          4. 0
            April 1 2014 13: 21
            Currently, China can receive bonuses directly from the conflict between the West and Russia over Crimea.


      2. +3
        31 March 2014 22: 35
        [quote = Samaritan] [quote = smel] It's not bad that China supports us ... It is rather neutral, in the middle ... He will go against the United States, the market will be cut, the factories will rise against Russia ... So they hang out like. .. In the hole [/ quote]

        Do you overestimate the role of Russia? Because of what they have the plant "stand up" ???
        1. 0
          April 1 2014 05: 37
          Because of what they have the plant "stand up" ???

          First of all, these are energy resources supplied by Russia. Secondly, it is wood. The third stage (for the future) is fresh water (project of water pipelines from Lake Baikal).
    2. -14
      31 March 2014 20: 15
      [quote = smel] It's good that China is supporting us. But still, do not forget that Russia has 2 allies. This postulate has been valid for 150 years. And in the future it will be relevant .--- + 2 allies --- GAZPROM and NEFTEPROM !!!! wassat laughing
      1. +2
        April 1 2014 01: 31
        150 years ago neither Gazprom nor the oil industry existed, and the two allies are the army and the navy. soldier
    3. +6
      31 March 2014 20: 44
      China supports itself! But now the interests of China and Russia in foreign policy are practically the same, I hope it will continue to be so! But since there are more than a hundred millions of conscripts in the first stage in China, we must remember!
    4. +3
      31 March 2014 21: 09
      Everything has changed. A military-political alliance between Russia and China is long overdue. I will say more, it will be practically impossible for us or China alone to pursue an independent foreign and domestic policy. The EU and NATO + the United States have an overwhelming economic (and military) advantage over the PRC and the Russian Federation separately. But our union will balance, at least partially, the existing imbalance. Moreover, this alliance will be able to resist not only the military, but also the economic system of our "friends". Let me remind you of Wall Street's nightmare: the simultaneous presentation of treasury bills for payment of them, the economy of 3,14ndustan will not survive this.
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    6. +1
      31 March 2014 21: 58
      As a Chinese representative recently let slip on the sidelines of a military meeting. - We're not ready yet. We need 20 years.
      That's the whole alignment. They are waiting.

      reliable source
      1. not good
        0
        31 March 2014 22: 38
        Question: in which direction are you preparing?
    7. SVT
      0
      April 1 2014 06: 44
      My friend !!! why are you reducing our allies by 1/3!
      You forgot about the Strategic Missile Forces.

      Strategic Missile Forces (Strategic Missile Forces) - a separate branch of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the land component of the strategic nuclear forces
      soldier
  2. +3
    31 March 2014 19: 21
    China, looking at Ukraine, oh, how afraid of its Maidan. There the Red Guards (if you build parallel with the right sector) will be remembered for a long time. Supporting their leadership, they twisted the meat grinder so much that oh!
    1. +32
      31 March 2014 19: 41
      In Beijing, their "Maidan" has already been rolled out by tanks, and will be rolled out as many times as necessary.
      Py.Sy. And it is right.
      1. +1
        31 March 2014 19: 46
        (thoughtfully) There are many Chinese ... :)))
        1. 0
          31 March 2014 19: 53
          No more than locusts.
        2. 0
          31 March 2014 22: 38
          Quote: ASed
          (thoughtfully) There are many Chinese ... :)))


          ... one, two, three-Chinese laughing
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      3. +1
        April 1 2014 05: 35
        Quote: Umnichka
        In Beijing, their "Maidan" has already been rolled out by tanks, and will be rolled out as many times as necessary.
        Py.Sy. And it is right.
        Yes these will definitely roll out, they cannot do otherwise - the population is huge, if it flares up, do not extinguish ...
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    3. part
      0
      31 March 2014 23: 13
      The first Maidan was just in China and they wanted to crank (Tiananmen), but extremely and extremely unsuccessful !!! And the Red Guards were a weapon of power (Mao). He then cleaned them out ... At one time, Hitler also cleaned out the SA, and Ivan the Terrible cleaned out the guardsmen, after they both did their job for their sovereigns .... This is a tradition like this historical ...
    4. +1
      April 1 2014 07: 01
      They, with their Maidan, will not chick like Yanukovych. Suppress tanks, fig, and who will tell them what? America????
  3. +6
    31 March 2014 19: 26
    China has always quietly hated both Western countries and Russia. China always pursues only its own interests and is not friends with anyone, but cooperates with everyone for its own benefit. China sleeps and sees when it stretches from edge to edge on the globe.
    1. +5
      31 March 2014 19: 42
      So we also need it. And in China they understand this - pragmatism is called ...
      1. +3
        31 March 2014 20: 02
        There is a difference. China has defiled its entire territory, the rivers are dirty, the forests have been cut down, the industry is working on coal - there is nothing to breathe, the earth has been poisoned with chemical fertilizers - it will not give birth. And all this is on a colossal scale; they do not know how to live in balance with nature. And in Russia there is a lot of things, but this is ours and nothing shines for China beyond the Amur.
        1. part
          0
          31 March 2014 23: 24
          If the land does not give birth to them, how do they themselves feed 1,5 lard to the people, and the surplus is still exported ???? Have you been to China yourself ???
          1. +2
            31 March 2014 23: 47
            Every year, 1,5 percent of the land is withdrawn from circulation. Now China has grown as much and ate, but every year there is less land, and the population is growing. China is actively trying to buy agricultural land around the world.
        2. Lazy
          +5
          31 March 2014 23: 40
          China, of course (like India), has killed its ecology. But he does not plan to expand his territory even at the expense of weak Mongolia. Well, these are the Chinese, they consider theirs as their own and they do not need someone else's, and so it was their entire multi-thousand-year history. Anyone who says that Russia or China will expand their territories by military means, annexing territories that did not belong to historically, is either a fool or a provocateur (for you need to learn history, these civilizations NEVER attack first). By the way, about cooperation with China - Alexander's phrase about two allies, the army and the navy, can be applied to any strong state, but in fact, if we are looking for allies, then for us this is China. They do not cheat, you can deal with them, although of course it is clear that everyone will always have their own interests in the first place. Here, as it were, it is naive to wait for something else. But when we need to support China (for example, in a conflict with the Japanese), we must do this, and the Chinese will never forget kindness. Russia-China, now may be exactly the tandem that can (and should) resist the West.
          1. +2
            April 1 2014 02: 44
            Quote: Lazy
            ... But he does not plan to expand his territory even at the expense of weak Mongolia. Well, that's how they are Chinese, they consider their own and they don't need someone else's, and that's how it was all

            Quote: Lazy
            then we are obliged to do it, and the Chinese will never forget kindness.

            As one friend of mine says: "The tradition is fresh, but # fidgets with difficulty
          2. +1
            April 1 2014 05: 38
            Quote: Lazy
            Anyone who says that Russia or China will expand their territories by military means, annexing territories that did not belong to historically, he is either a fool or a provocateur

            negative and who is holding IT in his mind three times ...
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    3. +1
      31 March 2014 20: 01
      1978 - how do I understand the year of your birth? This year, China finally came under the United States. Until the 76th death of Mao, China in a peculiar way occupied a marginal niche. In fact, Khrushch returned them to the Security Council without them. This is for those who don't believe in exceptions.
      1. 0
        31 March 2014 20: 15
        More details please.
    4. part
      0
      31 March 2014 23: 19
      At the very beginning of the 15th century, China, having the best and most powerful fleet of that time in the world, abandoned world military expansion, for which reason it even burned its super fleet !!! The decision was extremely wise - to conquer the world is not the most difficult, the most difficult is to keep it, which is unrealistic in principle! Already 600 years ago, Kikai, being the largest economy in the world, understood this perfectly !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      1. +2
        April 1 2014 00: 07
        If I tell you that these ships were not built by the Chinese at all, then you will not believe me. They can also say in 600 years that the Kazakhs built Baikonur and wanted to conquer the universe, but they changed their minds and forgot all space technologies and just began to graze the herds. Shipbuilding, navigation, oceanography, cartography, training of officers and sailors - all this does not appear suddenly and cannot disappear without a trace. China was overland all the way, think about it.
    5. +2
      April 1 2014 00: 10
      Agree. If China learns its strength, it will no longer need Russia. And China considers friendly relations to be a manifestation of weakness. So if it will be an ally, it will be temporary.
    6. +3
      April 1 2014 07: 05
      And who will "see" whom? Even our "brothers" Bulgarians throw us from time to time. Therefore, to be friends, albeit with China, you need to PAGMATICALLY, do not stick your finger in your mouth, follow the bazaar.
  4. +7
    31 March 2014 19: 27
    "... the front pages of Chinese state publications leave not the slightest doubt:" In the confrontation between Russia and the West, the most populous country in the world is on the side of the largest country. "
    Very happy! Right noted!
    I hope that China will largely replace in economic cooperation the most ardent opponents of Russia (and, accordingly, friends of the Banderlog)
    A reasonable reorientation to the East will lead to a strategic partnership between the Russian Federation and the PRC and allied relations. The USA will have to scratch their turnips pretty well before getting into another adventure.
  5. +8
    31 March 2014 19: 29
    China wants to become the number 1 economy in the world and move the United States. For this it does not need a knife in the back from a neighbor, they will support Russia in every possible way, of course not forgetting about their main goal. West. I think in the coming year breakthrough economic contracts in the financial, technological and military spheres of the two countries will be announced.
    1. -5
      31 March 2014 21: 59
      He wants to take Siberia and that's it.
      1. 0
        31 March 2014 22: 56
        Quote: polite people
        He wants to take Siberia and that's it.

        I think who lives in Ulan-Ude can state this as a fact
      2. part
        +3
        31 March 2014 23: 42
        North America has two neighbors - the United States and Canada; the situation between them is similar to the situation between Russia and China. The population in the United States is 2 times larger than in Canada. The US economy is 10 times larger than the Canadian economy. The US army and navy are hundreds, no, thousands of times stronger than the Canadian army (considering that Canada is a non-nuclear country) ... .Why has the USA not yet conquered the weak (in comparison with them) Canada ????????????????????????????????? ?? Rather, the question should be posed differently: what is the point of the states to conquer Canada by military means ???? My answer is, there is no point !!! Moreover, for the states it will be tantamount to suicide !!! It's like neighbors on the staircase - if the neighbors start setting fire to each other's apartments, then the entire staircase will burn !!!!
      3. 0
        April 1 2014 07: 34
        Quote: polite people
        He wants to take Siberia and that's it.

        Wants to take Siberia? But he does not take the same. Why? Yes, the horse understands why.
        For China, Siberia is important as a source of raw materials it needs, for Siberian raw materials and semi-finished products, the PRC is necessary as a sales market. And something to "take" from a nuclear power ... It is much easier and cheaper to buy. To take something away from us, it is necessary to destroy the Russian Federation even worse than Ukraine.
        But those who want to take Ukraine now have to be stopped in Crimea with an iron rod. Yes
  6. Vita_vko
    +2
    31 March 2014 19: 31
    The time has come to create joint missile defense systems of the entire Eurasian continent with the participation of states that really care about their own security. And this is not only China, but also India and Iran. Thus, Russia will be able to significantly expand the regions covered by anti-missile systems, including Siberia and the Far East. The Chinese fleet has already made its contribution to the confrontation with the United States off the coast of Syria. In addition, since the 90s, China has always supported Russia and in the fight against terrorism in the Caucasus, in Yugoslavia, supported both in South Ossetia and now in Ukraine. With all due respect to Russia's closest official allies in the CSTO and the CU, they did not have such a consistent position of support for Russia's actions to protect its interests and its citizens. Therefore, it is one thing to sign papers on cooperation and strategic partnership, while it is quite another thing to really support the rights of peoples to non-interference in internal affairs with the help of our own forces in the UN and in the international arena.
    When the policy of the state is not influenced by the West, but is based on its own national interests, then it is quite easy and simple to build long-term friendly relations with such states, and most importantly, there is no risk of getting stabbed in the back.
  7. +21
    31 March 2014 19: 31
    China needs the support of a strong country like Russia, with ambitions for Taiwan, disputed islands, domination in the Pacific, etc. And of course, weapons from Russia, Ukraine.
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/869/hjeu482.jpg
    1. +2
      31 March 2014 19: 36
      for the picture +++ straight to the point. laughing
    2. +1
      31 March 2014 21: 59
      They just hide in the shadow of Big Brother. Strength is accumulating.
    3. 0
      31 March 2014 22: 01
      the bear's face is exactly like my car mechanic))), as he says - I warned !!! In general, the artist fell into the Russian type, in my opinion.
    4. 0
      April 1 2014 06: 34
      And the tiger with such a grin sneaks up, as much as goosebumps run up the nape, like, you were not expecting me, and this is me - your scribe wassat laughing laughing good
  8. -4
    31 March 2014 19: 34
    China's support, of course, is important in this situation, but ... Manchuria will still have to be returned to Russia right up to the Chinese wall.
    1. +2
      31 March 2014 19: 44
      What for? Our borders are natural, it seems. belay The Chinese Eastern Railways, Dalny and Port Arthur returned Stalin to China, if I'm not mistaken, it's too lazy to go to Wiki.
      1. -4
        31 March 2014 19: 55
        With China, the Russian border ran along the Chinese wall until the 17th century - this wall is the demarcation line. Well, the port of Dalny (now Dalian) and the port of Artur with the Chinese Eastern Railway were built by Russia and we have a right to them about the same as to Sevastopol. Although this is already on Chinese territory.
        1. +10
          31 March 2014 21: 46
          With China, the Russian border ran along the Chinese wall until the 17th century - this wall is the demarcation line. Well, the port of Dalny (now Dalian) and the port of Artur with the Chinese Eastern Railway were built by Russia and we have a right to them about the same as to Sevastopol.



          Do not muddy the waters and do not trick! Do not know the history of the Russian State - read the textbook!

          The Russian-Chinese border in its current framework in the east of the country took place only in 1860, when, according to the Beijing Treaty, most of northern Manchuria (including the island of Sakhalin), which had previously belonged to China, ceded to Russia. Until the 16th century, there was a Tungus state on the territory of northern Manchuria !!! Self-sufficient! Which then did not yet know Russia and later, as a result of internecine wars and external dangers, was greatly weakened and annexed to China. The city of Vladivostok is the Russian name of the Chinese settlement, which in translation from Chinese sounds like "Bay of the Blue Trepanga". From time immemorial, the Chinese mined trepangs in the waters of the Far East, and Ginseng, tigers, bears and maral antlers in the Ussuri taiga. Until Muravyov-Amursky concluded an agreement with the Chinese emperor on new borders, along which Primorye was ceded to Russia in 1860. And until Mikhail Yankovsky ("NENUNI" = "Four-eyed") Russian Pole, an exiled convict, declared war on the Khun-khuz and poachers in the Primorye.

          Dalian. Port Arthur and the Chinese Eastern Railway have never belonged to Russia. These are just leased territories within the borders of another state for various purposes.

          Learn history! Do not be lazy to check certain statements and postulates uttered by strangers in DIFFERENT sources.
          Only in this case it will be hard for you to fool your head. Do not be maidan simpletons.

          This is how the brain is turned over. Here they lied a little. There they just slightly corrected the story ... for a gram of everything ...
          And in the end it turns out-Russia hounded the Ukrainians with a famine !!!
          1. +2
            31 March 2014 23: 29
            Quote: vlad_m
            This is how the brain is turned over. Here they lied a little. There they just slightly corrected the story ... for a gram of everything ...
            And in the end it turns out-Russia hounded the Ukrainians with a famine !!!

            As they say, ripped off the tongue! Thanks! Very accurately in the theses the history of our east, by the way, he is not distant, he is RUSSIAN!
          2. +1
            April 1 2014 00: 52
            The official story is fiction. Try not only to read, learn to think and look at things more voluminously. You probably think that the Mongols were the conquerors of the world, the Tatar-Mongol yoke and all that and that the Swedes brought statehood to Russia)))))
          3. +1
            April 1 2014 01: 02
            If for millennia, year after year, the Russians did not restrain the expansion of the Chinese within the Great Dragon Empire, now the border with China would pass, at best, along the Ural Mountains. It is obvious.
  9. +3
    31 March 2014 19: 35
    China has already become the # 1 economy and # 1 moneylender. There is just little information.
    Do you know the secret military plan for the capture of America by the Chinese? Just don't tell anyone, it's a secret!
    500 million unarmed, polite Chinese in boats swim up to America from both sides, immediately go ashore, jump up and down and say: Yankees, take us prisoner.
    1. +1
      31 March 2014 19: 50
      On the other side, what will they sail on? wassat And if 500 million Chinese go somewhere, then the Chinese women who are out of work will be torn apart. Vietnamese and Uzbeks E.)))
      1. 0
        31 March 2014 22: 00
        Quote: nikcris
        On the other side, what will they sail on? And if 500 million Chinese go somewhere, then the Chinese women who are out of work will be torn apart. Vietnamese and Uzbeks E.)))

        There is just a shortage of Chinese women. Since ultrasound tests appeared to determine the sex of the embryo, girls have been aborted there all the time. Barbarism, of course, but the reason is clear. In China, there is NO pension system for the vast majority of the population. Traditionally, the elderly are supported by their younger son, and this is their social security. And the daughter, getting married, goes to her husband's family. Taking into account the policy of "one family - one child", naturally everyone is trying to have a son, and therefore daughters are aborted, killed, thrown out into the street and pretended that they were not there.
        As a result, the millions of boys entering the season do not have the slightest chance of finding a mate, and they are mostly poor. If millions of angry young men with nothing to lose and nothing to live for rise up, power will be swept away. The authorities understand this.
        And where can these young Chinese be placed in order to keep them constantly under control? That's right, in the army. How long do you think even a rich state can keep a multi-million dollar army and not use it for practical benefits? Even America regularly uses what it has, while China has much less resources. Well, think about in which direction China will use this army? Take a look at the map of China. To the right - the ocean, you can't cross the boat, and even there the "Nimitz" get in the way with the escorts. Down - Indochina, impenetrable jungles and even less passable Vietnamese, even America at the peak of power did not pass them, and in 1978 they piled the Chinese in such a way that they would no longer poke their heads. There are high mountains to the left, it is a pleasure to defend there, but to attack is madness, and the turkeys will object with very weighty arguments.
        It remains only upward, and what is there? The border is practically not covered. The land is practically not inhabited, not mutilated, fossils - just dig, forests - just drank ... Troops - yes, there are, but few, they will simply be overwhelmed with cannon fodder, which is not a pity. And yet Nicholas II tried to transfer reinforcements from Europe without much success, but how much has the Transsib's throughput increased since then? Well, is there anything to think about?
  10. +3
    31 March 2014 19: 38
    How can one not remember the ancient Chinese wisdom. NEE. which in translation: be as serene as a lotus flower at the foot of the temple of eternity.
  11. +4
    31 March 2014 19: 39
    A good union - a bear and a dragon !!!
    1. Andreitch
      0
      31 March 2014 20: 37
      Maybe good, but not the best. From a geopolitical point of view, it is better to "be friends" with India against the United States, and then China.
    2. -1
      31 March 2014 20: 50
      Quote: ataman555
      A good union - a bear and a dragon !!!

      Ukraine at one time gave China a port and land in Crimea on lease, how will this issue be resolved now - will you show China or confirm the contract? And the quarrel between the Russian Federation and the West is doubly beneficial for China and it will receive weapons either from the Russian Federation or from the West. And the Russian Federation will supply energy resources at prices favorable to China if the West imposes sanctions.
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  12. +2
    31 March 2014 19: 49
    We need to be friends with China, but carefully. The military-political alliance should have been concluded yesterday. It's good when there is someone who will cover his back at a crucial moment.
    1. part
      0
      31 March 2014 23: 58
      There is a mutual benefit from such a union !!! Russia and China are covering each other's backs !!! This is clearly visible on the map. Everything is ingenious, simple !!!
    2. +3
      April 1 2014 01: 37
      They will cover all the way to the Urals. fool
  13. +1
    31 March 2014 19: 50
    The whole world just "grunted" when Russia acquired 27 thousand square meters. km of land and the same amount of sea. But you have to be very careful with the Chinese. They will twist everything out of everyone, promising support. But support will be much more serious than NATO dry rations, and they will ask for real dividends. hi
  14. +4
    31 March 2014 19: 54
    The Chinese are pragmatic people. It is not profitable for them to lose such a partner for the economy. And the weak west plays into their hands.
  15. -3
    31 March 2014 19: 59
    Friendship with China is good ... But if the Chinese feel like it, then they can only grow in the Far East and Siberia, and by no means disputed islands ...
  16. Ivan 63
    +3
    31 March 2014 20: 00
    The Chinese are good fellows, the people are hardworking and united, including those abroad - we do not have enough of these qualities. And I didn’t hear about the fifth column, again we’ll have a minus (we will not crush the reptile in any way) In general, all these "euro-values" are empty crap, values ​​can only be national.
    1. 0
      31 March 2014 20: 04
      Then forget Shakespeare and Brecht, Goethe and Roland. You can't just lock yourself inside yourself - it's rot!
  17. 0
    31 March 2014 20: 05
    The Chinese have only their own interests, no altruism. Their immediate goal is Taiwan. This is a matter of honor for them.
    1. Putler
      -15
      31 March 2014 20: 31
      Yes, China has its own interests. Only this is not Taiwan, but the Far East of Russia. We are waiting for guests)))
      1. +3
        31 March 2014 22: 37
        It is very interesting to watch the pro-Western trolls perk up at the news of a possible alliance between China and Russia. This is a nightmare of the State Department and NATO. So the guys invent horror stories for the night about the Chinese threat.
        But let me, as a person who was born and served in the Far East, bring to you the simple fact that the northeastern regions of China, somehow, are not popular with the local population, and by their standards are considered sparsely populated. In addition, the border areas are an area of ​​compact residence of Koreans. Well, for some reason, they do not pull them either to the Mongolian or to the Daurian steppes. The Primorsky Territory is certainly a more appetizing piece, but the presence of strategic nuclear forces in Russia has a sobering effect on hotheads. Therefore, the union between our countries is good for our peoples and a big hemorrhoid for "Western friends"!
        1. 0
          April 1 2014 00: 29
          Hundreds of years ago, our then border guards stood on the Great Wall of China and instilled in the Chinese people a superstitious fear, a taboo on crossing the wall and going to foreign terrible northern lands. Ordinary Chinese still remember this, but we forgot. I heard that the Chinese are trying to bury their dead south of the Chinese wall i.e. dragged to the "homeland".
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  18. upasika1918
    +8
    31 March 2014 20: 12
    China is China. Politeness and firmness. No rudeness. Respect. And it should be mutual. China never forgives rudeness to anyone and never. Japan's example is science to everyone.
    1. +1
      31 March 2014 21: 03
      Remind me, please, how China responded to Japan?
      1. +1
        31 March 2014 23: 15
        I didn't really understand either. The Chinese will take revenge on the Japanese very much, if there is an opportunity, this is not to go to a fortune-teller. But it seems they haven't got revenge yet.
    2. +3
      April 1 2014 03: 10
      Upasika1918: What are you doing ... - sorry, haven't you fallen from a tree recently? Did you go on vacation to Thailand, Vietnam, other countries; did you go to China? I have never met more noisy, uncultured people. And in China you can easily encounter outright rudeness, and more and more every year. By the way, you can also meet the rudeness of the Chinese in Thailand, Vietnam.
  19. +8
    31 March 2014 20: 13
    Quote: tech laughter
    China needs the support of a strong country like Russia, with ambitions for Taiwan, disputed islands, domination in the Pacific, etc. And of course, weapons from Russia, Ukraine.
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/869/hjeu482.jpg


    China needs a strong Russia, just like Russia needs a strong China. On May 1, Vladimir Putin flies to China, the result of the trip will be another blow to the states and the West, after which neither the West nor the states will rise ... We are waiting ...
    1. +2
      April 1 2014 01: 40
      You need to be friends with China only if you are against someone. hi
  20. +8
    31 March 2014 20: 13
    Kitaisa understands that if he is left without the support of Russia, he will be devoured!
  21. Putler
    -45
    31 March 2014 20: 27
    Quote: smel
    It's not bad that China is supporting us.

    And who said that the PRC supports the Russian Federation?
    None of the latest resolutions on Crimea and Ukraine were supported by China!
    RUSSIA was supported by:
    1. the totalitarian leader of the DPRK Kim Jong-un. Leader of a country where hundreds of thousands of people die of hunger every year;
    2. totalitarian leader of Zimbabwe Robert Mugabe. The out-of-mind 92-year-old president of the country with the highest inflation rate in the world;
    3. the totalitarian leader of Cuba Raul Castro. The leader of a country stuck in its development somewhere in the 60s.
    4. Bashar al-Assad - it is not clear at all whether he is a leader, if a civil war has been going on in his country for the fourth year and more than 120 thousand people have died;
    5. cunning fox Old Man Luka. No comment ...
    etc. only 10 similar offended, "mega civilized and developed countries."
    Decent environment of the "democrat" PUTLER))
    1. +5
      31 March 2014 21: 33
      Quote: Putler
      Decent environment of the "democrat" PUTLER))

      No, I couldn’t resist. Minus. However, you probably don't care.
      But all the same I will speak out.

      Any bright and strong leader, having come to power, first of all strengthens the power, because otherwise it is impossible to govern the state. Any power is coercion. Calmness and satiety in the state is achieved only with a firm and consistent government. In any society, there are always those who consider themselves smarter than everyone else, they constitute the opposition to the authorities. The opposition can and should pull the state cart in its direction and thus influence the trajectory of its movement. But if the opposition pulls back, not forward, not correcting, but slowing down the movement, this is no longer the opposition, but wreckers. How would you yourself react to a neighbor who disagrees with the decision of the rest of the tenants to install an intercom, and began to shit in the entrance?

      So do not touch the one who puts things in order in your house.
      1. -4
        31 March 2014 22: 11
        Quote: Luga
        Any bright and strong leader, having come to power, first of all strengthens the power, because otherwise it is impossible to govern the state. Any power is coercion. Calmness and satiety in the state is achieved only with a firm and consistent government.

        Correct statement, but very controversial. So you and the Right Sector can justify.

        Of two equivalent rational decisions, one must choose the most moral one,
        and of the moral alternatives - the most rational

        And here the question of morality arises, which he raised in his commentary Putler, Is it crooked, obliquely, is it available, is it reasoned ...? And as usual on the forum, misunderstandings are a matter of minus comments.
        1. +1
          April 1 2014 00: 17
          Quote: MainBeam
          And this is where the question of morality arises, which Putler raised in his comment,

          You know, I never put downsides if I just disagree with any statement. In this case, I was outraged by the form of presentation of information, expressing clear disrespect for the vast majority of those present.
          Any freedom should have boundaries and freedom of speech is no exception. To identify our state with a fascist one, and absolutely groundless (it is necessary to justify why groundlessly?) Can only be either our enemy, or a weak and not very smart person who has fallen under his influence, capable of operating only with cliches that have been introduced to him. I think that the user whose post I commented on falls into the second category.
          As for the first part of your message
          Quote: MainBeam
          So you and the Right Sector can justify.
          , I could not determine what exactly I brought you to such an idea. A firm and consistent government does not need such an instrument of its maintenance as terror. The right sector, the NSDAP, any political associations that proclaim the division of people into conditionally worthy and conditionally unworthy on a racial or national basis, in my person have the most fierce and implacable enemy.
          1. 0
            April 3 2014 13: 44
            Quote: Luga
            I could not determine what exactly I led you to such an idea


            having come to power, first of all, he strengthens the power, because otherwise it is impossible to govern the state. Any power is coercion.


            Any change of power leads to purges, the replacement of subordinate cadres throughout the entire vertical of power. And the higher the change, the more permutations. And the more the "change of course", the more blood will be shed with these permutations. Prison or firing squad.

            There are no exceptions. October 17th, Cuba 59th. You can treat them differently. For some, October 17th is the formation of the Soviet Union, but for others - the shooting of the royal family with women and children.

            Maidan 2013 is also a coup. If the power is consolidated, then purges will begin in the state apparatus, the police, in the army, in schools ... If they recognize the power as legitimate, they will justify the purges, no matter how much blood is shed.

            For some, VVP is a hero, he defended Crimea. And to someone - a tyrant: he imprisoned Khodorkovsky, released Serdyukov ...

            The question of morality on which side you will stand.

      2. part
        0
        April 1 2014 00: 08
        A very accurate comparison! Bravo!!!
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    3. +1
      31 March 2014 22: 38
      combat bot?))) registered a campaign for the sake of GNV
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    5. 0
      April 1 2014 00: 34
      [quote = Putler
      Are you trying for a salary or for European gay values? maybe you yourself ..doorok? They wrote in your profile that you like to wear a kokoshnik!
    6. 0
      April 1 2014 07: 12
      You d.i.i.l. or where? Probably the same, D.E.B.I.L. fool
  22. 0
    31 March 2014 20: 37
    taiwan, taiwan --- thank you you help !!! drinks love feel fellow
  23. StrateG
    +2
    31 March 2014 20: 38
    Decent environment of the "democrat" PUTLER))


    I noticed long ago that Putin forges alliances with those who somehow oppose the United States. Actually, the above countries are unrecognized by the West, which means they theoretically cannot harm us in favor of the West. Putin is assembling a coalition, a coalition against the West.
  24. +2
    31 March 2014 20: 52
    That lawlessness, which lately has been in every possible way implanted in the unipolar world with mattress mats and their attendants, sooner or later had to get bored. Now the world has a chance to return to the real legal field when resolving controversial issues. The principles that were initially laid down in the foundations of international law are not bad in themselves, but they can be observed only if there is a balance of power in the international arena.
    Rapidly developing economies (not only China) are interested in restoring such a balance, but the luminaries, "giants" of world politics are quite the opposite, because in a fair competition they are likely to lose.
    China and the rest, interested in rebuilding the world, were held back in this endeavor only by the absence of a military counterbalance to the power of mattress mats. Now this counterweight has been found, or rather, found and has shown its effectiveness. Conclusion: you need to use Russia as a shield, supporting this shield both morally and financially, in order to solve your own problems under its protection, displacing the states from everywhere from where they can be ousted in the economic sphere.
    That is, making such a curtsey in our direction, the Chinese undoubtedly count on reciprocal understanding and support, which they will certainly need in the near future.
    And we need to decide who we are - the leaders and inspirers of the "resistance movement" or "security company" in the service of customs unions and other BRICS. The first role is much more difficult, more honorable, more profitable and more responsible, but I am afraid that the second is being prepared for us by our eastern partners.
    You have to be careful. Any dependence - on China or on Gayrope - is fraught with loss of independence in choosing goals and methods of struggle in the international arena.
    1. +1
      31 March 2014 22: 49
      Quote: Luga
      Conclusion: you need to use Russia as a shield, supporting this shield both morally and materially, in order to solve your own problems under its protection, displacing the states from everywhere from where they can be pushed out in the economic sphere

      Interesting point of view. I have not met such a comparison before.
  25. +2
    31 March 2014 21: 07
    Quote: Putler
    And who said that the PRC supports the Russian Federation?


    I have a question to Putleru, where such misbegotten ones live, you are a victim of an unsuccessful abortion, stop spitting poisonous saliva, otherwise we are afraid of contracting rabies. And Russia has destroyed such viciously yapping jackals in all ages like rabid dogs.
    1. 0
      April 1 2014 07: 19
      About Putlere.
      Unfortunately, it’s too late for an abortion, and what the parents didn’t do was forced to be completed by society ... drinks
  26. +5
    31 March 2014 21: 11
    Quote: Putler
    Quote: smel
    It's not bad that China is supporting us.

    And who said that the PRC supports the Russian Federation?
    None of the latest resolutions on Crimea and Ukraine were supported by China!
    RUSSIA was supported by:
    1. the totalitarian leader of the DPRK Kim Jong-un. Leader of a country where hundreds of thousands of people die of hunger every year;
    2. totalitarian leader of Zimbabwe Robert Mugabe. The out-of-mind 92-year-old president of the country with the highest inflation rate in the world;
    3. the totalitarian leader of Cuba Raul Castro. The leader of a country stuck in its development somewhere in the 60s.
    4. Bashar al-Assad - it is not clear at all whether he is a leader, if a civil war has been going on in his country for the fourth year and more than 120 thousand people have died;
    5. cunning fox Old Man Luka. No comment ...
    etc. only 10 similar offended, "mega civilized and developed countries."
    Decent environment of the "democrat" PUTLER))


    Specify the number of people in the DPRK in 2013 - 24 million. When they all die. And who told you that they were starving
    The leader of Zimbabwe appointed himself to the position and who chose him
    In Cuba, unlike all the glorious states of Europe, cancer is treated for free, I would like to live in the 60s in the USSR, ice cream for 20 kopecks. lemonade for 22 kopecks. Happiness.
    Bashar al-Assad has been fighting for 4 years and so far the people support him. It's strange, but he is also a totalitarian leader
    I would not say that it is bad in Belarus. If it were the same in Russia, it would be better to live in Russia.

    In general, nothing specific was said. One puff of cheeks. The boy cannot even work off the money with his arguments ...
    1. Putler
      -6
      April 1 2014 00: 43
      Over the past 20 years, up to 3 MILLION people have died of hunger in the DPRK!
      Read wikipedia, news sites ...
      So, truly - worthy allies now at PUTLER!
      Go Russia!!!!!!!
  27. 0
    31 March 2014 21: 48
    the Chinese are cunning
  28. 0
    31 March 2014 22: 13
    Having a billion-dollar ally is good, but it is better to have a billion-dollar friend, and China is considered to be such, although there are some disagreements, but nevertheless, the Chinese people are grateful to Russia for liberating Japan from the genocide, and this is worth a lot. And the culture of China is wiser and richer than that of gay Europe and the United States combined. Only history knows what ties and roots of culture connect two great nations like Russia and China. And this is not an unimportant fact, and another topic for this commentary.
  29. +3
    31 March 2014 22: 22
    ((((((Where do these fagots come from ?? He writes in Russian, it means he studied at our school, we like normal, normal girls) and such misunderstandings are born ((How so? Well, God is with you - I don't like Russia , so get down, forget everything and everyone, you will find a job in the west, they will respect you there, they will give you all the freedoms, they need you Putler, oh damn forgot - you can't not write in their language, you can't speak so as not to cause laughter ... It is the presence of such rats among Russians that makes them agree with Molotov, who until the end of his life was convinced of the correctness of the repressions, because the parasites must be exterminated.
  30. +2
    31 March 2014 22: 26
    China is a very dangerous ally. Smiles, bows, and the rod is not childish. In Africa, they are already pushing us out of our own possessions, such as Angola, everywhere. It's not about racial wariness, it's about their history. They assimilate everything they touch. In addition, they also have historical claims to our Far East. From our side, everything is in order, but how is it taught with them? They generally consider themselves descendants of Pithecanthropus, so what moral obligations can they have towards us?
  31. +1
    31 March 2014 22: 41
    [quote = polite person]
    Today, 21: 59
    He wants to take Siberia and that's it.

    But they are bullshit, not Siberia. But the Far East is being quietly chopped off. What, in general, they are doing with success, it is called a creeping occupation. With such a large population, we will not be able to hold such territory. One thing pleases - 3,14ndoser by that time the khan will come, and it will be possible to seriously think about a unified world government.
    1. 0
      31 March 2014 23: 15
      And who will control this government, that is the question.
  32. +1
    31 March 2014 22: 45
    Judging by the minuses to the comments, this forum has a very strong Chinese lobby)))))
  33. 0
    31 March 2014 23: 14
    I don’t know what the Chinese think, but their position is clearly due to their problem with Taiwan. Soon they will begin to sway this problem, and will wait for our support. The question is how they will do it.
  34. Putler
    -8
    31 March 2014 23: 19
    Quote: maxcor1974
    are popular among the local population, and by their standards are considered m

    Quote: StrateG
    Decent environment of the "democrat" PUTLER))


    I noticed long ago that Putin forges alliances with those who somehow oppose the United States. Putin is assembling a coalition, a coalition against the West.

    Cool coalition! Crazy Kim Jong-un with a million-strong army and people dying of hunger and Mugabe who has gone out of his mind))
    By the way, in North Korea, all men were obliged to have their hair cut like Kim Jong-un. In Russia, don't you have a haircut yet, like a putler?)))
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    2. 0
      April 1 2014 06: 52
      Are you talking about Emelya ...? At least choke on saliva ....... nothing can be changed, even if you lick the boots of the states with your tongue!
  35. 11111mail.ru
    0
    31 March 2014 23: 25
    Let's not forget about the wise parable of the great helmsman about two fighting tigers and a monkey watching the process from a tree. When the tigers fell down lifeless, the monkey descended from the tree and skinned them.
  36. +6
    31 March 2014 23: 31
    The West (especially the USA), on the contrary, will get considerable problems.
    Sometimes there is even a suspicion that they are doing everything possible to find another adventure on their ass. In the end, they find it and immediately try to blame someone for their adventures. As Zadornov says: - Well, stupid !!!
  37. 0
    April 1 2014 00: 19
    Quote: serega.fedotov
    But because the conscripts of the 1st stage in China have more than a hundred million, we must remember!

    I think the memory of China will not fail. And the example of other aggressor countries in relation to Russia in world history will not make a fatal mistake.
  38. 2front
    0
    April 1 2014 00: 31
    Quote: Putler
    Quote: smel
    It's not bad that China is supporting us.

    And who said that the PRC supports the Russian Federation?
    None of the latest resolutions on Crimea and Ukraine were supported by China!
    RUSSIA was supported by:
    1. the totalitarian leader of the DPRK Kim Jong-un. Leader of a country where hundreds of thousands of people die of hunger every year;
    2. totalitarian leader of Zimbabwe Robert Mugabe. The out-of-mind 92-year-old president of the country with the highest inflation rate in the world;
    3. the totalitarian leader of Cuba Raul Castro. The leader of a country stuck in its development somewhere in the 60s.
    4. Bashar al-Assad - it is not clear at all whether he is a leader, if a civil war has been going on in his country for the fourth year and more than 120 thousand people have died;
    5. cunning fox Old Man Luka. No comment ...
    etc. only 10 similar offended, "mega civilized and developed countries."
    Decent environment of the "democrat" PUTLER))

    Just 3 allies from this list are enough to bend the whole world. China + India + Belarus.
    1. +3
      April 1 2014 01: 49
      Do not flatter yourself. The slightest weakness on our part and these friends will be on the other side of the barrier. Our inner unity is our strength. soldier
      1. Putler
        -8
        April 1 2014 02: 13
        The problem is that Russia already has NO FRIENDS !!!!!!
        As regrettable as it may sound, ISOLATION RF is a FACT !!!!!!
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        2. 0
          April 1 2014 06: 41
          For t * oles I inform you ... The BRICS countries are on the side of Russia, it is more than half of the world's population. Plus Argentina etc ..... What kind of insulation? The USA and a bunch of stinkers of Europe are not the whole universe! It's time for them and you to understand already!
    2. Putler
      -5
      April 1 2014 02: 03
      I wonder where in the list of those who opposed the resolution on Crimea, China and India ???
      China and India DID NOT SUPPORT RUSSIA !!!!!!!
      But the Russian Federation was supported by Robert Mugabe, who is 92 years old.
      Truly a worthy coalition: RF + Zimbabwe + DPRK
      RZHUNIMAGU))))) laughing
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      2. 0
        April 1 2014 06: 46
        Abstaining or did not take part in the vote, this is diplomatic support from Russia ....... Politics is much more subtle than the nonsense on the websites
  39. Putler
    -7
    April 1 2014 00: 35
    Quote: maxcor1974
    But let me, as a person who was born and served in the Far East, bring to you the simple fact that the northeastern regions of China, somehow, are not popular with the local population, and by their standards are considered sparsely populated.

    Well, if the fact that more than 120 MILLION Chinese live in the provinces in the northeast of the PRC is a fact of the unattractiveness of this part of the country, then what can we say about the attractiveness of the Far East of the Russian Federation, where about 7 million citizens of the Russian Federation live (17 times less than Chinese in the areas bordering the Russian Federation).
    In addition, from 5 to 10 million ethnic Chinese live in the Russian Federation itself!
    What is not a reason to send troops to Russia ??????
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    2. 0
      April 1 2014 06: 37
      For China, 120 million ............... this is less than 7 million Far Easterners for Russia :)
  40. 0
    April 1 2014 00: 42
    By the way, the old calendar, which was canceled only by Peter 1, counted the years from the date of the signing of the peace treaty after the victory of the power of the Great Race (Russia) over the empire of the Great Dragon (China). Now, according to this calendar, the year 7522 is going on. In general, I am also in favor of Russia using China for its own purposes to the fullest in the fight against the parasites of the West.
    1. 0
      April 1 2014 02: 58
      Use a condom!
  41. 0
    April 1 2014 04: 01
    The point is not - how, in what and how much - China supports Russia.
    This is politics!
    The interests of the two powers coincide! So you need to use and get the maximum benefit from this tandem! And China understands this well.
    The Chinese are not cunning, they are careful in their actions and statements. By the fact that their decision is already a program that must be followed strictly.
  42. DS14
    0
    April 1 2014 04: 51
    Maybe that's why?

  43. vladsolo56
    0
    April 1 2014 05: 39
    It's just that China has Hong Kong, which can hold a referendum in the same way. Today it is in a dual position, like it is China, but at the same time the protectorate of England.
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    2. 0
      April 1 2014 06: 29
      Well, colleague, why are you giving the misconception ........ since 1997, Hong Kong has been under the sovereignty of the PRC, until 2047 the conditions for a transitional period have been created with extended autonomy for Hong Kong ......... So that For a long time, the United Kingdom has nothing to do with it! .............. And China supports Russia on the issue of Crimea and Ukraine, because in the confrontation with the United States, the Russian Federation is the only powerful ally, plus China there are also unresolved problems of Taiwan, Tibet, ...... there are questions with the Uighurs, the Paracel Islands, etc.
    3. 0
      April 1 2014 07: 24
      Actually, Hong Kong was returned to China several years ago. feel
  44. 0
    April 1 2014 08: 07
    Why does the Celestial Empire support Russia's actions?

    They are now learning from Russia, adopting strategy and tactics in politics. If everything is done correctly and not to the detriment of Russia, then soon the United States and Europe will be so bent that they will stand cancer for a long time! Yes
  45. edisson
    0
    April 1 2014 08: 54
    Why did the PRC not openly support the Russian Federation in the UN General Assembly? This is the case in Tibet! Suddenly there will be an AZIAmaydan.
  46. 0
    April 1 2014 14: 49
    Quote: Samaritan
    He will go against the United States, the market will be cut down, against Russia, the factories will rise ...

    It is not clear how it is possible to "choke off the market" for China, if the American companies themselves transferred their production to the PRC for the simple reason that it is more profitable there than in the United States?
    And how can you "cut the market" for a country whose gold and foreign exchange reserves are more than 3 trillion US dollars... Wouldn't such a policy completely cut the American currency?
    And Chinese factories supply products not only to the Russian Federation, but to all world markets, Russia is only a small share.
    For the PRC, it is precisely the military-political cooperation with our country that is important. So that the United States and its associates do not even dare to fart harmfully, without deeply thinking: is it worth doing?

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