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Self-defense of the South-East of Ukraine made another appeal to the people

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Self-defense of the South-East of Ukraine made another appeal to the people



The video, in which three armed people in masks who call themselves representatives of the United People’s Southeast of Ukraine, are urging residents not to join any parties and associations that appeared on the Internet on March 28.

“Their goal (the parties) is to split and weaken our forces. We should not allow this to happen,” the warriors say.

"Today, the so-called power outlaws the South-East, declaring us separatists. We, in turn, declare them separatists. They sign the Association Agreement, without asking Ukraine if it wants to the EU. They raise tariffs and disconnect TV channels. ", - they note.

Activists see as a way out of the current situation “the unification of regions into a federation, republic or autonomy” and “the return of the legitimate president”.

The appeal ends with an appeal to the citizens of Ukraine to go to the rally on Sunday: "During this time we rallied more than ever and became even stronger. Only together we will be able to resist the destruction of the industrial Southeast."

"We are for law and order. This is our land," concludes the warriors.

Earlier, the special correspondent of KP Dmitry Steshin, who was able to talk with the authors of the video, told Reedus that, on the one hand, "the emergence of partisan detachments in the South-East is the only sensible response of the population, the instinct of self-preservation," but an explosion, sabotage, battle, and everything will roll uphill down the hill, into the bloody quagmire of the dormant inter-ethnic — Russian-Ukrainian — civil strife. "

The activists themselves claim that they would not want such a future, but are ready for any actions of the Kiev authorities - up to armed confrontation.

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http://www.ridus.ru/news/157406
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  1. Wiruz
    Wiruz 29 March 2014 20: 43
    +59
    It’s bad that they appeared with weapons in their hands in the video. From tomorrow, all Western television companies in the world will be shown as pro-Russian terrorists.
    1. a52333
      a52333 29 March 2014 20: 45
      +57
      Polite pro-Russian terrorists.
      1. ZU-23
        ZU-23 29 March 2014 20: 59
        +50
        Quote: a52333
        Polite pro-Russian terrorists
        Yes, they are kind, they said they don’t want to kill Bandera boys, but they’ll burn up the equipment, and you never know what, this team is needed by anyone, even if the people rise, they will know with whom they should stay and where to deploy.
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          1. I do not care
            I do not care 29 March 2014 21: 15
            +35
            Quote: Vi_RUS
            Masks I think that were unnecessary, and automatic machines are generally superfluous!

            if you are kicked by 3 scumbags, and even still lying, I think you can take a count in your hands ..or an automaton ..
            1. Vi_RUS
              Vi_RUS 29 March 2014 21: 27
              +2
              I said for the machines that they are superfluous in the video, because then they will start saying that they are aggressors, the same banderlogs are smelly!
              And if a threat, then at least with a stone, a leash would not give offense to yourself and your loved ones!
              1. wulf66
                wulf66 29 March 2014 22: 21
                +37
                The right to machine guns to these guys, their lawlessness, gave pravoseki and other trash. And they are superfluous or not, I honestly being safe, I can not judge.
              2. Vedmed_23
                Vedmed_23 29 March 2014 23: 26
                -8
                I completely agree, there are extra machines in this appeal.
                1. bif
                  bif 30 March 2014 01: 34
                  +15
                  Quote: Vedmed_23
                  I completely agree, there are extra machines in this appeal.

                  There are stable axioms, the validity of which has been held by time ... "A kind word and a Colt can do more than just a kind word!"
                  1. Revolver
                    Revolver 30 March 2014 02: 51
                    +6
                    Quote: bif
                    There are stable axioms, the validity of which has been held by time ... "A kind word and a Colt can do more than just a kind word!"

                    Actually, the phrase you quoted about a good word and colt was said by the famous Chicago mafioso of the 1930s, Al Capone. I do not think it is appropriate to compare self-defense with this, though legendary, but still a gangster.
                    1. wax
                      wax 30 March 2014 13: 19
                      +4
                      Truth does not depend on who speaks, it is determined by content, tested by time and practice. If we use only those words that criminals and bandits did not use, then we will have to be silent. Revolution and counter-revolution have the same language in tactics.
                    2. wax
                      wax 30 March 2014 13: 19
                      0
                      Truth does not depend on who speaks, it is determined by content, tested by time and practice. If we use only those words that criminals and bandits did not use, then we will have to be silent. Revolution and counter-revolution have the same language in tactics.
                2. Trinity
                  Trinity 30 March 2014 03: 10
                  +5
                  Without assault rifles, there will be no trust and confidence on the part of the residents of the east and south-east in their strength, and seriousness in their intentions to fight, which they call for resistance to the Nazis. And I don’t think that someone will call them names. They have already been called separatists (for the West in the first place), so if you still call something, it’s not scary. The main thing is that you would believe in them and follow the people of the east and southeast, this is important. But for these people they look just like that, and not otherwise. And if without masks, they will be hunted down, stolen and taken to Kiev, and there they will be convicted of illegal possession of weapons, separatism and will find something else. Kiev has now changed its strategy knock out organizers and activists one at a time, and do not touch the rallies themselves so as not to tease the masses. It is hoped that so the protest itself will subside.
            2. zulus222
              zulus222 29 March 2014 21: 54
              +49
              SORRY! WOULD YOU SPEAK WITHOUT A MASK? And BARRELS .... I THINK SIMPLY TO SHOW THAT THE MATTER IS SERIOUS, AND THE FOLLOW THEY WILL PASS!
              1. Vi_RUS
                Vi_RUS 29 March 2014 22: 06
                +7
                I do not mind at all, I understand that sitting at a computer is easier to judge, but alas, this is my opinion.
                And the fact that they are well done, even no doubt, they should be helped and our government is well-advised to assist, at least not officially
                1. Vi_RUS
                  Vi_RUS 29 March 2014 22: 34
                  +5
                  And I would like to note, nevertheless we are not judging, but are discussing how it would be possible better, by this I will correct myself in the last post. And the fact that they have already gathered and decided to defend their opinion, honor and dignity, it’s worth respecting them already
        2. Vi_RUS
          Vi_RUS 29 March 2014 21: 24
          +56
          Russian girls are so harsh ... but so cute))))
        3. Walk
          Walk 29 March 2014 21: 26
          +5
          Something pretended it all looks. Are Cossacks not mishandled?
          1. Vi_RUS
            Vi_RUS 29 March 2014 21: 38
            +35
            Gather 100 votes and Obama sies US flag laughing (JOKE wink )
            1. YRAL59
              YRAL59 29 March 2014 21: 46
              +4
              Quote: Vi_RUS
              Gather 100 votes and Obama sies US flag laughing (JOKE wink )
          2. avg
            avg 29 March 2014 23: 15
            +15
            Quote: Walk
            Something pretended it all looks. Are Cossacks not mishandled?

            In the last video, they said that there are 20 thousand of them and in a short time they are ready to collect even more.
            But, the existence of an organization with so many members is simply impossible to keep secret. Some of their statements in interviews, similar to the statement: "We have 3-4 flies (disposable grenade launcher) and a hundred charges for them," cause mistrust in their competence. Finally, the fact that they failed to show themselves during the last actions of the right sector in Lugansk, Kharkov, Zaporozhye also casts doubt on the existence of such a powerful organization.
            1. sniper
              sniper 30 March 2014 01: 18
              +3
              Quote: avg
              , also makes one doubt the existence of such a powerful organization.

              You are certainly right, but it seems to me that it is with such force that Yanukovych will come to restore order in Ukraine. And if he is alive, then he will not go anywhere, under his name, the name of the legitimate president, these guys will put things in order, well, the fact that they are not in Ukraine right now, maybe everything can be, the guys are still on vacation ... the main thing is that at the right moment, they would be in place ...
            2. levandos
              levandos 30 March 2014 01: 18
              +1
              Some kind of incomprehensible machines ((Who will say what kind of model or models are incomprehensible ???
              1. Tourist
                Tourist 30 March 2014 02: 01
                +6
                Left is not right:
                RPK-74, AK-74, AKM.
              2. sso-xnumx
                sso-xnumx 30 March 2014 04: 26
                +3
                the impression is that these are mass-dimensional models of AK-47, RPK, AK-74.
              3. Egor.nic
                Egor.nic 30 March 2014 13: 51
                -3
                What do you care about .....
            3. not main
              not main 30 March 2014 02: 02
              0
              Quote: avg
              "we have 3-4 flies

              I am not an infantryman, but this phrase confused me very much! Before that, I thought that we had an RPG-7 reusable!
            4. Nikolaevich I
              Nikolaevich I 30 March 2014 03: 31
              +2
              I agree with avg.I have the same opinion.
            5. Trinity
              Trinity 30 March 2014 03: 37
              +4
              avg-walk / People as they can try to raise the region to fight the fascists, even if there are 10-15 people, but someone should somehow organize resistance, or, according to your opinion, they should openly walk the streets and squares and call "to arms brothers, to arms, "so what should they do? Guerrilla resistance in the underground is born, and not from divisions and regiments is formed. ON THE SOFA IN SAFETY YOU CAN DISCOVER. People have a real threat to their lives, so they try to defend themselves somehow, but people like you, with your unnecessary "cleverness", revelations, doubts, and extinguish at the root any attempt of these guys to raise people to resistance, people are in despair, and you are not appropriate here revelations staged. Popiz - not about anything? Connoisseurs hr - th. You served, but they may not, and they are mistaken about something, and now you need to laugh at this?
              1. avg
                avg 30 March 2014 11: 43
                -1
                To begin with, calm down and do not hysteria like Yulia Tymoshenko. Rudeness has not yet added arguments to anyone.
                If you think that a high-profile statement on the Internet that we are ready to put under arms 70 thousand bayonets and not take any actions against fifty Bandera will add to their popularity, then you are very mistaken. It is not necessary to consider ordinary people, and even more so the enemy, stupider than yourself. Such statements, in Russian, are called "fart in a puddle", and apart from harm they cannot bring anything. On the other hand, they provide Kiev with an excellent opportunity to introduce additional BB forces, and attract an army to combat such a “powerful, well-armed force,” and the SBU will actively trap spontaneously appearing national leaders and fight against, possibly, real resistance.
          3. RONIN-HS
            RONIN-HS 30 March 2014 00: 40
            +1
            Something pretended it all looks. Are Cossacks not mishandled?

            I just read from the monitor, it’s like in a song - you won’t throw out the words, but fly out - you won’t catch.
            Everything should be unambiguous, and without rumors. In my opinion, even!
            Respect. good
          4. sso-xnumx
            sso-xnumx 30 March 2014 04: 24
            0
            here I have the same feeling!
        4. a52333
          a52333 29 March 2014 21: 33
          +1
          Well, yes, and I'm talking about that. Only he did not specify the benders or not.
        5. Sandov
          Sandov 30 March 2014 16: 38
          0
          Quote: ZU-23
          Quote: a52333
          Polite pro-Russian terrorists
          Yes, they are kind, they said they don’t want to kill Bandera boys, but they’ll burn up the equipment, and you never know what, this team is needed by anyone, even if the people rise, they will know with whom they should stay and where to deploy.

          Now the main thing is that people wake up and rally against banderlogs. The federalization of Ukraine is a chance to prevent bloodshed.
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      3. Nevsky_ZU
        Nevsky_ZU 29 March 2014 20: 59
        +14
        From today, Ukraine has completely frozen deliveries of military products to Russia. sad

        Why is there no news on the VO website?
        1. corn
          corn 29 March 2014 21: 12
          +8
          Yandex has long been hanging on the news, and on Ukrainian sites.
          And there is also such a branch on VO "It's time to quietly forget Kiev"
        2. regsSSSR
          regsSSSR 29 March 2014 21: 28
          +1
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          From today, Ukraine has completely frozen deliveries of military products to Russia. sad

          Why is there no news on the VO website?


          By the way, by the way, I was also puzzled by this question request
          1. regsSSSR
            regsSSSR 29 March 2014 21: 57
            +47

            Here, the best voiced laughed for a long time)))
            1. rolik
              rolik 30 March 2014 00: 13
              +22
              Quote: regressSSSR
              Here, the best voiced laughed for a long time)))

              I categorically agree, it’s very funny)))))) Well, since I got such a booze, I'll post the story again)))) I really like it)))))) Maybe someone hasn’t seen yet, let him laugh)))))
              1. Atlas
                Atlas 30 March 2014 11: 12
                +1
                Cool video !!! Although I remember the film itself with difficulty watching ...
            2. Snoop
              Snoop 30 March 2014 00: 16
              0
              Class!))) Wallowing with laughter)))
        3. svetlomor
          svetlomor 29 March 2014 21: 49
          +13
          From today, Ukraine has completely frozen the supply of military products to Russia. sad
          Probably Ukraine does not need 200 million bucks, and Russia will find other suppliers or make it itself.
          1. Al_lexx
            Al_lexx 30 March 2014 01: 36
            0
            Quote: svetlomor
            From today, Ukraine has completely frozen the supply of military products to Russia. sad
            Probably Ukraine does not need 200 million bucks, and Russia will find other suppliers or make it itself.

            Even easier. By the time a real deficit is felt, the southeast will already be ours (I hope).

            But even if this does not happen, then already leading Ukrainian developers are starting to move to Russia (same engineers for helicopter engines). And with the complete closure of military cooperation programs, I’m almost sure this process will begin to be massive. And since in the next six months we still won’t make a full-fledged border, no one will be able to keep them.
        4. Al_lexx
          Al_lexx 29 March 2014 22: 16
          +12
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          From today, Ukraine has completely frozen deliveries of military products to Russia. sad

          Very good. The more quickly the southeast is organized and gathers its spirit. There will be nothing to pay salaries.
        5. poquello
          poquello 29 March 2014 22: 36
          +5
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          From today, Ukraine has completely frozen deliveries of military products to Russia. sad

          Why is there no news on the VO website?

          and what?
          Weapons contracts with Russia are vitally necessary for Ukraine, without them this country would be “finished,” Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said on REN-TV on Saturday.

          http://www.vz.ru/news/2014/3/29/679602.html
          well it's like
          The deputy head of the Internet Party of Ukraine, Darth Vader, on Saturday submitted documents for registration as a presidential candidate, which will be held on May 25, Ukrainian media report.


          RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20140329/1001579796.html#ixzz2xNVfkSFA
          it would probably be funny ..
      4. platitsyn70
        platitsyn70 29 March 2014 21: 03
        +3
        passions will subside, the election campaign begins, people are tired of shocks, we will wait for the PS’s response as he behaves in the near future.
      5. svetlomor
        svetlomor 29 March 2014 21: 37
        +14
        Polite pro-Russian terrorists.
        Rather, partisans, they still need to throw a weapon and a group of trained comrades.
        1. Al_lexx
          Al_lexx 29 March 2014 22: 17
          +4
          Quote: svetlomor
          Polite pro-Russian terrorists.
          Rather, partisans, they still need to throw a weapon and a group of trained comrades.

          +1
          And first of all, communication facilities.
      6. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 29 March 2014 23: 25
        +2
        Quote: a52333
        Polite pro-Russian terrorists.


        Sounds the same as "Chrestian martyr".

        These are not "polite" 100 pounds. Polite people have never covered themselves with such garbage.
    2. Mikros
      Mikros 29 March 2014 20: 53
      -6
      Maybe a provocation. The left has some incomprehensible butt. The machine is like Kalash, and the butt is incomprehensible
      1. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 29 March 2014 21: 02
        +19
        In his hands the PKK
      2. AVIATOR36662
        AVIATOR36662 29 March 2014 21: 03
        +6
        Plain old PKK
        1. fif21
          fif21 29 March 2014 21: 44
          +1
          Yes, the store is magpie, but the boys did not smell gunpowder, two magpie shops connected by electrical tape would say a lot.
          1. lukke
            lukke 29 March 2014 21: 58
            +6
            Yes, the store is magpie, but the boys did not smell gunpowder, two magpie shops connected by electrical tape would say a lot.
            Well, well, you are such a pro, but you forgot that in RPK-74 there are 45 rounds in a box store. In the PKK (which was before the RPK-74 and had a caliber of 7.62) there were 40.
            1. fif21
              fif21 29 March 2014 22: 12
              0
              If there was a box store in the video, I would write its capacity. 40 a very popular store for AK, especially the dual.
              1. lukke
                lukke 29 March 2014 22: 32
                +1
                If there was a box magazine in the video
                Yes, everything is visible in the photo, including that the store is not disk (snail), but box-shaped, i.e. 45 rounds.
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            3. fif21
              fif21 29 March 2014 22: 39
              0
              Quote: lukke
              Well, well, you are such a pro, but you forgot that in RPK-74 there are 45 rounds in a box store. In the PKK (which was before the RPK-74 and had a caliber of 7.62) there were 40.
              this is not RPK-74 caliber 5,45, this is RPK caliber 7.62
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              2. lukke
                lukke 29 March 2014 22: 45
                +4
                this is not RPK-74 caliber 5,45, this is RPK caliber 7.62
                On the basis of what details did you come to this conclusion?) Do not worry, I will explain to you why this is the RPK-74, and not the RPK 7.62. If we compare - the bending angle of the magazine, that from the machine gun, that from the machine gun is more bent - on the caliber 7.62 due to the increase in the diameter of the ammunition. In the photo we see the bend of the magazine, which is typical for the RPK-74. Plus the pistol grip is made of plastic and the store itself is not purely metal, but under the "wood" (although I admit that in the last years of production they could do these things like on the RPK-74, although I have not seen such options in my practice)
                1. fif21
                  fif21 30 March 2014 00: 23
                  0
                  Quote: lukke
                  In the photo we see the bend of the store, which is typical for the RPK-74. Plus a pistol grip made of plastic and the store itself is not purely metal, but under the "wood" (although I admit that in the last years of release they could do these things like on the RPK-74, although I have not seen such options in my practice)
                  The third barrel AK7,62 with a wooden butt and a characteristic magazine, which differs from modern "oars" with a plastic butt, also pushed me to the idea that we have a 47 caliber RPK in front of us. I dare to assume that all 3 barrels are from one gun.
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                3. fif21
                  fif21 30 March 2014 00: 50
                  0
                  Perhaps I will agree with you. hiThe muzzle compensator of 2 trunks convinced me
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      3. Ulairy
        Ulairy 29 March 2014 21: 10
        +1
        This is the RPK-74 machine gun.
        1. maks-101
          maks-101 29 March 2014 21: 20
          +6
          Today with a PC, tomorrow on a tank, equipment from the Crimea is not in vain taken out.
        2. svp67
          svp67 29 March 2014 21: 30
          +3
          Quote: Ulairy
          This is the RPK-74 machine gun.

          Yes - RPK - 74, just like the other standing AKM, and the one sitting has some version of AK74
        3. fif21
          fif21 29 March 2014 21: 50
          +1
          RPK-74 under a 5,45 bullet, and here excuse me 7,62
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        5. Reserve buildbat
          Reserve buildbat 29 March 2014 22: 11
          +4
          This is just PKK. RPK-74 has a slightly different shape. The bend is smaller and there is a small straight part on the inside
      4. regsSSSR
        regsSSSR 29 March 2014 21: 12
        +1
        Quote: Mikros
        Maybe a provocation. The left has some incomprehensible butt. The machine is like Kalash, and the butt is incomprehensible


        Well, by the way, yes, and the atom itself looks a bit like a wooden training model, the picture is a bit blurry and invisible characteristic details of the weapon, unlike the machine gun on the right, I remember a similar oar on the wall while one of my friends did not play)) well, or the butt looks like a real rpk-74 but the store is still weird maybe the saiga? but the main thing is not this, but the person on the video with a gun speaks Russian and what’s there with him is already a secondary question
        Yes, and just do a lot of polite people a lot))
        1. FlyEngine
          FlyEngine 29 March 2014 21: 28
          +5
          Oh my God, they didn’t cry at their warehouses in these PKKs. He has in his hands the most ordinary PKK.
          1. svp67
            svp67 30 March 2014 00: 20
            +4
            Quote: FlyEngine
            He has in his hands the most ordinary PKK.

            Quote: Stroibat stock
            This is just PKK. RPK-74 has a slightly different shape.


            No, this is RPK 74, here is the photo - compare with the video, paying attention to the characteristic bend of the store in its lower part ...
            Kalashnikov light machine gun - RPK 7,62x39 mm caliber on the bipod. Standard version with a wooden fixed butt and forearm, magazine for 40 rounds.


            Modern RPKM chambered for 7,62x39 mm with a folding butt and side bar for sights.

            The RPK74 machine gun is one of the first series with a wooden butt, forend and an overlay on a gas tube.

            RPK74 machine gun with polymer parts instead of wooden ones.
            1. levandos
              levandos 30 March 2014 01: 28
              -3
              Can you tell me where the brow on the left has a fuse on the barrel?
              1. svp67
                svp67 30 March 2014 02: 11
                +4
                Quote: levandos
                Can you tell me where the brow on the left has a fuse on the barrel?
                There are no fuses on the barrel of the Kalash, it is on the receiver, and the pin that secures the "slider" is excellent, and the "slider" itself is poorly visible due to the very low quality of the video and due to the fact that the "Kalash" is almost not used ... otherwise the wooden parts would not look like new ...
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        3. regsSSSR
          regsSSSR 29 March 2014 21: 40
          +9
          Well, yes, yes, the campaign is all the same real)))
        4. fif21
          fif21 29 March 2014 22: 04
          +2
          Saiga store up to 10 rounds, and if the memory does not change the caliber 10.25mm cartridge Magnum 410
          1. sniper
            sniper 30 March 2014 01: 26
            0
            Quote: fif21
            , and the caliber if the memory does not change 10.25mm cartridge Magnum 410

            Well "Saiga" is also in caliber 7,62 rifled and smoothbore 12; 20 and 410, it seems like everything, but maybe something new has appeared ...
            1. fif21
              fif21 30 March 2014 02: 42
              +1
              Yes, there is Saiga MK, but she has a butt different from the picture. There are also new Saiga MK 01 but, this is a hunting weapon. AKMS with GP25 is the best option for me. But the taste and color of a friend is not. smileHorn 40X2 + comb for equipment store.
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      5. tommytros
        tommytros 30 March 2014 01: 58
        0
        RPK -74, but would be in the army - would not ask
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      8. Max_Kokyhin
        Max_Kokyhin 30 March 2014 05: 19
        0
        RPK-74 he
      9. ultra
        ultra 30 March 2014 11: 21
        0
        Quote: Mikros
        . The left has some incomprehensible butt.

        You deuce for not knowing the materiel!
    3. sv68
      sv68 29 March 2014 21: 06
      +3
      it’s true that with weapons. So, there is power. And with the strong, they are always considered and afraid
      1. alone
        alone 29 March 2014 22: 08
        -11%
        Quote: sv68
        it’s true that with weapons. So, there is power. And with the strong, they are always considered and afraid

        Weapons put them outside the law. To justify them means to justify the actions of militants in the North Caucasus. They also claim to be the defenders of the Muslims of the Caucasus (lies).
        I wrote about this last time. I consider this a provocation of 100%. And not some sort of self-defense.
        1. Al_lexx
          Al_lexx 29 March 2014 22: 22
          +5
          Quote: lonely
          I wrote about this last time. I consider this a provocation of 100%. And not some sort of self-defense.

          You certainly have the right to consider anything. But if it really were a provocation, then this video would not have been shown on Russia24. wink

          It's just that everything was very polite in the Crimea. And here is a clear warning that politeness may not count on politeness.
          1. alone
            alone 29 March 2014 22: 50
            -2
            Believe in what they say in the media (all without exception) do not respect yourself. Do you think what is shown on TV in Russia or Ukraine is true? So you don’t know what the truth is)))
            Quote: Al_lexx
            You certainly have the right to consider anything.

            Yes, I agree. That's why I respect your opinion about RTR24. We are not robots. Everyone has their own opinion. hi
        2. I do not care
          I do not care 29 March 2014 22: 40
          +1
          Quote: lonely
          Quote: sv68
          it’s true that with weapons. So, there is power. And with the strong, they are always considered and afraid

          Weapons put them outside the law. To justify them means to justify the actions of militants in the North Caucasus. They also claim to be the defenders of the Muslims of the Caucasus (lies).
          I wrote about this last time. I consider this a provocation of 100%. And not some sort of self-defense.

          Read Yu Nikitin - The Evil Empire - perhaps your views will change somewhat.
        3. Turkir
          Turkir 30 March 2014 00: 43
          +2
          Is there a law? Remember "Berkutovtsev".
          And if you protect the family?
        4. ultra
          ultra 30 March 2014 11: 24
          +1
          Quote: lonely
          Weapons outlaw them.

          And what is “law” in Ukraine now? And is it there at all? hi
    4. vo.dum
      vo.dum 29 March 2014 21: 21
      +4
      let them know ... kindness and courtesy should be with fists ... they only perceive fists as an argument ... so a la her com a la her ... wink
    5. Ivan_Ivanov
      Ivan_Ivanov 29 March 2014 21: 27
      +14
      It’s bad that they appeared with weapons in their hands in the video. From tomorrow, all Western television companies in the world will be shown as pro-Russian terrorists.

      Residents of the Southeast, and so ONLY DO NOT NAME ...
    6. Rus2012
      Rus2012 29 March 2014 21: 33
      +6
      Quote: Wiruz
      will show how pro-Russian terrorists

      did they even say one word pro-Russian?
      I didn’t hear anything about the power action, except for self-defense.
      In the context of the abduction of citizens by the power structures of illegitimate authorities, they have no choice but to confront ...
      1. Native grandfather
        Native grandfather 29 March 2014 21: 56
        +4
        Quote: Rus2012
        did they even say one word pro-Russian?
        I didn’t hear anything about the power action, except for self-defense.
        In the context of the abduction of citizens by the power structures of illegitimate authorities, they have no choice but to confront ...

        I, too, am beginning to doubt their actions. There are clips with warnings to law enforcement officers. And then everything. But for that there are reports of purges in the east. Somehow everything is foggy. Maybe I missed something? Was there any information about the real actions of the resistance?
      2. I read the news
        I read the news 29 March 2014 23: 13
        +5
        For some time, I would even clarify: In the conditions shooting citizens by law enforcement agencies ...
    7. Vladimir73
      Vladimir73 29 March 2014 21: 55
      -1
      In my joke with a PC layout ... the reaction of the West is really unpredictable here smile
    8. Arthur 775
      Arthur 775 29 March 2014 22: 00
      +5
      And it’s not difficult to disassemble them, if they will jam the banderlogs, it means the correct Nashen’s
      vigilantes. Well, and if the peace begins to fall to the full, then everything will be obvious.
      But banderlog still trample to the southeast, they do it no longer horseradish goats.
    9. FREGATENKAPITAN
      FREGATENKAPITAN 29 March 2014 22: 04
      +3
      Believe me, a colleague, that with weapons, that without ... they will show how they need it! And let Banderlog think when next. just climb
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    11. Ihrek
      Ihrek 29 March 2014 22: 32
      +7
      Why terrorists at once, they didn’t carry out any attacks. They simply make it clear that if they stand up for themselves and their loved ones, they can do it with bare hands, from all kinds of maidanut fascist zapadenti and the same maidanut new illegal government. Unfortunately, the Nazis and the Nazis, and we have, which even some members of the forum strongly support when they appear on the site. Well, at least not on such a scale as in Ukraine.
      1. alone
        alone 29 March 2014 22: 52
        -4
        Quote: Jamal1974
        Why terrorists at once, they didn’t carry out any attacks. They simply make it clear that if they stand up for themselves and their loved ones, they can do it with bare hands, from all kinds of maidanut fascist zapadenti and the same maidanut new illegal government. Unfortunately, the Nazis and the Nazis, and we have, which even some members of the forum strongly support when they appear on the site. Well, at least not on such a scale as in Ukraine.


        Jamal, any person armed with illegal laws will automatically fall under the article of an IAF participant. There is one step from an IAF participant to a terrorist. You are a resident of the North Caucasus
        know this firsthand.
        1. mamont5
          mamont5 30 March 2014 04: 07
          +4
          Quote: lonely
          any person armed with an illegal law automatically falls under the article of an IAF participant. There is one step from an IAF participant to a terrorist.

          And under what article do the armed participants of the Maidan and the SS fall? Judging by the present day and the actions of today's "authorities" of Ukraine, they are in the category of "fiery revolutionaries" of the Ukrainian spill and therefore are not subject to criminal prosecution. Well, what began to clean up some is the usual consequence of revolutions and bickering among themselves.
          1. alone
            alone 30 March 2014 14: 39
            0
            Quote: mamont5
            And under what article do the armed participants of the Maidan and the SS fall? Judging by the present day and the actions of today's "authorities" of Ukraine, they are in the category of "fiery revolutionaries" of the Ukrainian spill and therefore are not subject to criminal prosecution. Well, what began to clean up some is the usual consequence of revolutions and bickering among themselves.

            Under the same one. That's why they quickly created the National Guard to somehow legitimize it. As you can see, they had the smart mind to legalize what is illegal. And even if tomorrow the PS begins to self-destruct, what now, everyone should start doing the same? And why in their actions to take a bad example from others? Their legitimate ideas lack chtoli?
    12. Belarus
      Belarus 29 March 2014 23: 02
      +8
      And you do not care what these pi say .... sy? I personally generally don’t care what they say in the West. They are generally divorced from the reality of what is happening and they have very big problems with interpreting the facts.
      In this case, the West is not afraid of anything when they call the militants in the same Syria pro-American or about European terrorists who feed the aforementioned countries (well, even the Saudis with Qatar)? That's right because they do not care about it. BANDERS AND THOSE WHO HATE THE RUSSIANS should care what they say about them in the countries of geymocracy ???
    13. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 29 March 2014 23: 26
      +4
      Quote: Wiruz
      It’s bad that they appeared with weapons in their hands in the video. From tomorrow, all Western television companies in the world will be shown as pro-Russian terrorists.


      In any case, the Western media will say that it is the Russians who are preparing (committing) aggression against the low-lying ... so that they have bullets with a gun or mops.
    14. Lazy
      Lazy 30 March 2014 01: 33
      +3
      It is even possible that these are custom-made performances. The picture is such that it’s just terrorists! Just like for BBC and CNN. And the "G" is clearly so in a Mock-like way ... Well, let's look further at them, what they will say. But do not forget that the Anglo-Saxons are masters of forgeries and provocations, and this may well be another provocation. They are now, for example, an active people will lead, and substitute at the right time. If you don't know exactly who it is, you don't need to blindly trust just because they seem to say the right thing. You need to look closely at such comrades.
    15. sssss018
      sssss018 30 March 2014 04: 45
      0
      Yes, even if they show enough to be silent!
    16. Alekseev
      Alekseev 30 March 2014 10: 17
      +1
      Quote: Wiruz
      It’s bad that they appeared with weapons in their hands in the video.

      Cannons (and machine guns too) - "the last argument of kings".
      That is, first there must be other "arguments":
      Creation of a political party uniting activists supporting the idea of ​​federalization, autonomy, orientation to the Russian Federation.
      Formation of strike committees, councils of people's deputies and other governing bodies (see the historical experience of the CPSU (b)) with armed guards, especially leaders.
      When every employee of the SBU (militia) will know that it is quite possible to get the "kulu" head-on, following the orders of the "Shchyrykh" from Kiev, it will be easier to work.
      The All-Donbass (or all southeast) strike.
      Thousandthsdemonstrations in Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk, Odessa and other cities with nominated
      requirements of Kiev.
      If the national there is no support on the required scale (but for now it’s not clear what is, it’s clear that there are brave pro-Russian activists, but they are not enough), but to hell about the entry of troops and partisan units.
      The revolutionary situation must mature; this is a necessary condition.
    17. Bayonet
      Bayonet 30 March 2014 14: 18
      0
      On the one hand, yes, on the other, they show their fellow countrymen that there is something to answer the Bandera lawless, that they need to unite and not be afraid!
    18. Nikita_Pilot
      Nikita_Pilot 30 March 2014 15: 09
      +2
      And they would have seemed without weapons, but considered them weaklings or not paying attention to them at all.
    19. kotvov
      kotvov 30 March 2014 19: 30
      +1
      I don’t see anything bad. The guys showed that they are ready to defend with weapons in their hands, not only themselves, but also relatives and friends. Banderlogs with weapons go and nothing. I hope that they have enough weapons.
  2. propolsky
    propolsky 29 March 2014 20: 44
    +4
    Where is the way out of this situation, you can’t take the country away, but you can’t live in fear for your life either - it is one.
    1. Turik
      Turik 29 March 2014 20: 52
      +5
      If the government in the country is fascist and the laws are pro-fascist, then it is necessary.
      1. Ivan Tarasov
        Ivan Tarasov 29 March 2014 21: 14
        +4
        Quote: Turik
        If the government in the country is fascist and the laws are pro-fascist, then it is necessary.

        Absolutely right.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jP0yebodlM
    2. Hippopotamus
      Hippopotamus 29 March 2014 21: 18
      +19
      do not take the country away

      The country - already plundered, 23 years ago. Now this is not pulling away, but picking up bit by bit. And we did not reach Berlin in a night, but crawled on the bones for years! Every region, every city is separate victory.
  3. awg75
    awg75 29 March 2014 20: 45
    0
    I respect all who at least somehow resist ukrohunte. but I think this resistance is just a clowning ... I do not believe in you --- it looks like Pokemon
    1. Mainbeam
      Mainbeam 29 March 2014 21: 04
      +8
      And if not professional civil partisans? It can be assumed that they got together on the call, talked for life ... Partisan is not to engage in open combat, military bearing and military habits are not needed. If there are connections in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, then it is really possible to implement what they are talking about. And if also "polite people" have drawn, then they will help with weapons.
    2. delfinN
      delfinN 29 March 2014 21: 28
      +24
      Would have wanted everything, would have separated for a long time
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 29 March 2014 22: 07
        +12
        Quote: delfinN
        Would have wanted everything, would have separated for a long time

        You're not right! The ARC had at least some kind of its own Constitution, and they held a referendum as an AUTONOMOUS republic! But in general - you have no specific provision on a referendum in the Constitution! So - in an indistinct line goes - "collect ... signatures and then we will carry out." So the signatures are not allowed to be collected, and even if they do, who will carry them out?
        1. avt
          avt 29 March 2014 22: 29
          +5
          Quote: Egoza
          The ARC had at least some kind of Constitution of its own, and they held a referendum as an AUTONOMOUS republic! But in general - you have no specific provision on a referendum in the Constitution! So - in an indistinct line goes - "collect ... signatures and then we will carry out."

          This is all a kind of legal sauce, which STRICT manages his dishes in his kitchen, unfolds in the direction he needs - the Law that draws where you turn, that's what happened.
          Quote: Egoza
          So signatures are not given to collect, and even if they are, then who will conduct it?

          Vooot !!! This is the main "dish" which is seasoned with legal "sauce". And with this, the trouble in the East and South, I'm not talking about Central Ukraine. I have already said and will repeat - "elections" will not give anything. Federalization is a very, very belated decision, the abscess of building a new "ancient" nation of Great Ukrov has opened. It is only possible to disperse peacefully in the form of a confederation, and God forbid if, under external influence, the project “Ukraine 1991” is split into three civilizational parts. ” and it's not even about the amers - in Egypt they controlled the warriors very strongly through money, but there were sane people and they took up their minds. But since NOBODY wants to write a check to save the project "Ukraine1991", but only severely stifled by conditions like Serbia, then the ghost "Walk Fields" is getting closer and more real. And this is a trouble.
      2. lecturer
        lecturer 30 March 2014 01: 03
        +1
        Thank you for the video about Sevastopol! Never been there, but now retired, maybe missed like an old sailor?
      3. Sergey S.
        Sergey S. 30 March 2014 02: 10
        +2
        Sevastopol is the pride and glory of Russia.
        Crimea is a magical country.
        Every time I was there, I felt incredible feelings, a surge of strength, wonderful people, a homely atmosphere, ...
        Sevastopol is my love and respect.

        And the movie got through ...
    3. Black
      Black 29 March 2014 22: 01
      0
      Quote: awg75
      don't believe in you --- like pokemon

      NOT just looks like it is. Under the balaclava, the cutest PS. Kwoons!
      1. novobranets
        novobranets 30 March 2014 07: 39
        0
        Yesterday I watched a video with a statement three times, and today two times. I cannot shake off the impression that something is wrong here. The scenery, weapons evoke the feeling of being staged, a video filmed "in nature", without barrels and other "attributes" would evoke more confidence and less trouble. Calling not to join any parties, they did not name the parties that, in their opinion, lead to disunity. In my opinion, the purpose of this video is to convince the people not to unite. And this is exactly what the junta needs. You can minus, but I think this is a provocation.
  4. mountain
    mountain 29 March 2014 20: 46
    0
    Some statements and statements when the case will be visible?
    1. pilot8878
      pilot8878 29 March 2014 21: 15
      +6
      Cases on either side will lead to war. Better let the cost.
    2. Suvorov
      Suvorov 29 March 2014 23: 34
      0
      There is no need to rush. When unrest breaks out in central Ukraine, then the time will come to act. While there people are silently watching what will happen next. Their brains have not yet "turned on", and there has not been a reassessment of "euro values". A grand show is expected soon - the presidential election. After they pass, the people will wait a little longer, and if the "European paradise" does not come quickly, then there will be a general disappointment of the "duped" citizens of Ukraine. Then there will be a split in the ruling elites and real chaos. Those in power will have no time for the eastern "provinces" when the "soil is slipping from under their feet" in the very center.
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  5. andrei332809
    andrei332809 29 March 2014 20: 46
    +5
    and what remains for them? only protect families from banderlogs and possessed demons. but here
    "the return of the legitimate president."
    why do they need this rat? You can, of course, play him as the legitimate president, but he is such a coward and a traitor ...
    1. AVIATOR36662
      AVIATOR36662 29 March 2014 21: 07
      +10
      The current authorities in Kiev are far greater traitors to Ukraine (the Ukrainian people) than Yanukovych. They already have a sea of ​​blood and a frank sale of their homeland. Or is there a lot of choice?
      1. Sergh
        Sergh 29 March 2014 21: 28
        +5
        Quote: andrei332809
        why do they need this rat? you can, of course, play him as the rightful president

        Here the very essence of the legality of the constitution. And Yanukovych is now completely under Putin, and even a word aside will not pick up. In theory, if he returns, then he has only one choice, quickly appoint a receiver, and leave the law himself (like Yeltsin and Putin).
        1. Rus2012
          Rus2012 29 March 2014 21: 44
          +2
          Quote: Sergh
          In theory, if he returns, then he has only one choice, quickly appoint a receiver, and leave the law himself

          Not a receiver, but a special representative with emergency rights to restore constitutional order in the country!
    2. tianna
      tianna 29 March 2014 21: 38
      +8
      He is a symbol of the legitimacy of legitimate authority, a constant reminder of hu from hu in the current political show in Ukraine.
    3. Penzyac
      Penzyac 30 March 2014 00: 29
      0
      Quote: andrei332809
      and what remains for them? only protect families from banderlogs and possessed demons. but here
      "the return of the legitimate president."
      why do they need this rat? You can, of course, play him as the legitimate president, but he is such a coward and a traitor ...


      Ukraine has long had no choice between good and bad, there is not even a choice between bad and less bad, only the choice between bad (Yanukovych), very bad (European integrators) and nightmare (Nazis) remains. What do you propose to choose?
  6. Egoza
    Egoza 29 March 2014 20: 47
    +21
    Tomorrow there should be a rally of Luhansk people and representatives will arrive from Donetsk, it is supposed that the "parties" will unite for a referendum on federalization. Let the guys get ready. very soon they will be busy with a very serious matter - to save the country!
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 29 March 2014 22: 55
      0
      Quote: Egoza
      Tomorrow should be a rally Luhansk


      This, as I understand it, was saddle -
      In Lugansk, a rally was held demanding the federalization of Ukraine. The rally participants wiped their feet on the American flag.
      29 March 2014, 22: 43

      According to local media, people gathered in the square at the monument to Taras Shevchenko. They stated that their president was Viktor Yanukovych.

      The protesters wiped their feet on the American flag. They also protested against the disconnection of Russian channels in the Luhansk region, local media noted.

      Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/25824#ixzz2xNaP4SRX
    2. alexng
      alexng 29 March 2014 23: 45
      +2
      I would like to hope that everything will fall back on track and, finally, Ukraine will return home, but without banderlogs.
  7. darksoul
    darksoul 29 March 2014 20: 51
    +7
    act must not shoot videos
    1. Delink
      Delink 29 March 2014 20: 56
      +12
      Information war is also needed.
      Moreover, an appeal to ordinary citizens.
    2. waisson
      waisson 29 March 2014 21: 07
      +18
      I agree with you completely hi
    3. sniper
      sniper 30 March 2014 01: 32
      +1
      Quote: darksoul
      act must not shoot videos

      It’s necessary to shoot the same videos ... When the armed people under the flag of Yanukovych begin to clean up, everyone will know that these are self-defense forces, not Russian special forces, no matter how professionally they act ... well, somehow ...
  8. igor.borov775
    igor.borov775 29 March 2014 20: 53
    -9
    It’s not bad, it’s bad that they remember Yanuka, By this they push everyone away from themselves, If they hit the target in a sore spot, Nobody wants to know where the dog is buried and the more you talk about it, everyone will forward everything, You can’t remember those damned , He, like Humpback, brings down all he is one angel, How they disguise this horror, a FALSE DETECTOR is really needed, Then you can quickly figure out such ones, They bring big troubles wherever you wait,
    1. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov 29 March 2014 22: 21
      +4
      Quote: igor.borov775
      It’s not bad, it’s bad that they remember Yanuka, By this they push everyone away from themselves, If they hit the target in a sore spot, Nobody wants to know where the dog is buried and the more you talk about it, everyone will forward everything, You can’t remember those damned , He, like Humpback, brings down all he is one angel, How they disguise this horror, a FALSE DETECTOR is really needed, Then you can quickly figure out such ones, They bring big troubles wherever you wait,

      It seems that you write through Google translator! Your name, rank and position?
  9. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 29 March 2014 20: 54
    +6
    One way or another, people will have to choose with whom they are. And they will have to fight. Unite in Autonomy and ask the Russian Federation to accept them as part of RUSSIA. I see no other way out. On their own, they will not be able to survive purely economically.
  10. DS14
    DS14 29 March 2014 20: 54
    +9
    Are we taking the fight?
  11. konvalval
    konvalval 29 March 2014 20: 54
    +9
    The second birth of these guys to the light of God. They say sensible words, but the practical actions of their organization are not noticeable. In no case do I call for violent action, but nevertheless, in the Southeast, the right sector is rampant without receiving any resistance. What then is the activity of these guys?
    1. corn
      corn 29 March 2014 21: 14
      +2
      This is the third way out.
    2. Tektor
      Tektor 29 March 2014 22: 23
      +5
      Well, for a start, they need to establish information work in order to track the "guest performers" as accurately as possible: mercenaries and pravoseks. When they have sufficient information, they will be able to quickly clean up, i.e. so that it is not necessary to stagger where you should not. Need eyes and ears in every lane ...
    3. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 29 March 2014 22: 31
      +2
      Quote: konvalval
      What then is the activity of these guys?

      Control over highways so that Ukrov troops would not rock the boat.
      With gangs in cities, they by definition cannot and will not deal.
    4. smith7
      smith7 30 March 2014 01: 00
      0
      They are really underground. They do what they can. It's not for us to judge them here! May God grant them help in a good deed ... Communication here on the topic "Federalization of YUVU" is like advice for copulating in the middle of the market square. Let us support these people from the bottom of our hearts, and I propose to keep our advice and calls for action to ourselves. The underground workers know better what, when and where to do.
    5. sniper
      sniper 30 March 2014 01: 35
      0
      Quote: konvalval
      What then is the activity of these guys?

      I think that the actions will take place later, but for now they just say: "We will come, do not be surprised ..."
  12. Chifka
    Chifka 29 March 2014 20: 55
    +6
    War games began in Ukraine. Maidan released various "fighters", hiding behind various "holy ideals". This is also dangerous.
    It will be, as in a joke: "Five-year-old Vasya, who quietly stole a service pistol from his dad, a policeman, while playing war in the yard, somehow quickly and easily won ...".
  13. alex47russ
    alex47russ 29 March 2014 20: 58
    +2
    The main thing is that this video should not be a provocation of the Kiev gang !!! It seems painful !!! If this is not a provocation, then we are united with the south-east of Ukraine, in an effort to protect ourselves from banderlog !!!!!
  14. Antibrim
    Antibrim 29 March 2014 21: 00
    +3
    if you would like for a long time to get up as the Crimeans! and chose fate. and so now everything will come to naught, and they will live in a country where Nazi bandits are held in high esteem, not veterans who liberated the world from fascism, where prices will be several times higher than salaries, where hunger and devastation will reign, and not calm and measured a life!
  15. storm wind
    storm wind 29 March 2014 21: 01
    +16
    I don’t like that there the Tatars began to stir up water over some kind of autonomy within the Crimea. This will not end in good. Something must be done with them ..
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 29 March 2014 21: 26
      +1
      Quote: Storm Wind
      Something must be done with them ..

      Particularly "thoughtful" - to Siberia, the rest will take root somehow. In general, this story with them all smacks of shit - what kind of local are they there ?! The Slavs once lived in Berlin - are we going to come back? This is all the intrigues of amers and other "friends". And ours do not risk to put everything in its place yet.
      1. kocclissi
        kocclissi 30 March 2014 02: 14
        0
        "Sho again" - after all, only recently from Siberia!
    2. Delink
      Delink 29 March 2014 22: 13
      +3
      That's right, the Turks seemed to be trying to harness them. Here it is for them to forward all who do not agree.
  16. Oleg Prophetic
    Oleg Prophetic 29 March 2014 21: 03
    +5
    I’m only afraid of one thing. If in the east there will be a very large rally, then the right sector will immediately fly off and the massacre will begin, and this is the beginning of a civil war, in which a lot of Russians will be slaughtered without the help of Russia, and Ukraine will be established. so that you may have to drape out of the country to all Russians in Ukraine. Hang on comrades in the southeast at this hour.
    1. Ulairy
      Ulairy 29 March 2014 21: 18
      +3
      If the Russians have to "skimp", the war will cease to be cold ... I do not presume to predict the consequences - feudalism, the Stone Age, the scorched earth ... I think you are rightly afraid. The hour is really good.
      1. Oleg Prophetic
        Oleg Prophetic 29 March 2014 21: 40
        0
        the worst is not even UTB. but the fact that all UTB (God forbid) can outgrow war in 4 peace. Do you understand me comrades?
        1. DS14
          DS14 29 March 2014 21: 48
          +6
          The worst thing is if the Southeast appears Stockholm syndrome. Tady Russian in Ukraine Khan final.
          1. Oleg Prophetic
            Oleg Prophetic 29 March 2014 21: 58
            +1
            I do not know what they show you in Russia but in Ukraine. Rally, even in the Southeast there are a lot of people who hate Russian Russians, Russophiles somewhere around 20-25%. wake up maximum
            1. Irokez
              Irokez 29 March 2014 22: 25
              +7
              Quote: Oleg prophetic
              I do not know what they show you in Russia but in Ukraine. Rally, even in the Southeast there are a lot of people who hate Russian Russians, Russophiles somewhere around 20-25%. wake up maximum

              You will not believe in Russia such Russophobes also exist, but we keep them a little in the body.
            2. Native grandfather
              Native grandfather 30 March 2014 07: 05
              +1
              Quote: Oleg the Prophetic
              I do not know what they show you in Russia but in Ukraine.

              You are definitely not Russian. Otherwise I would write In Ukraine and I wouldn’t write my country with a small letter.
        2. Black
          Black 29 March 2014 22: 07
          +4
          Quote: Oleg the Prophetic
          Do you understand me comrades?

          We even understand.
          Immediately in the fourth?
          Comrade, don’t worry. There will be no war.
        3. smith7
          smith7 30 March 2014 01: 12
          0
          Do not whip up ... The suffering of people in Ukraine is real to everyone except Russia on the drum. Naglo-Saxons will not fit into "THIS" to the fullest. The worst victims will be (or may be) as a result of civil war and man-made disasters ...
    2. tianna
      tianna 29 March 2014 21: 42
      +5
      And how long can you still sit silently and wait - when they come to cut it?
      1. smith7
        smith7 30 March 2014 01: 19
        0
        No need to wait. It is necessary to make a choice or to fight (in a team of like-minded people) or to survive (then bring down from a big city to a village or farm). There will be looting and violence in the city. It is difficult to advise you without knowing the situation thoroughly.
    3. I read the news
      I read the news 29 March 2014 23: 29
      +1
      Now, it seems to me, the right sector has a mouthful of hundreds of Parubian self-defense. A good chance to speak southeast.
  17. doc62
    doc62 29 March 2014 21: 05
    +9
    a provocation or not a provocation to push bonderlogs need to be awakened from the word Russian in horror
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 30 March 2014 12: 39
      +2
      Not yet evening. bully
  18. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 29 March 2014 21: 07
    +2
    I don’t know how anyone, but this video reminds me too much of a rotten provocation. I don’t remember honest people talking about serious things with their faces hidden. This sounds too much like a 11/XNUMX terrorist attack.
    In the same Crimea, decision makers did not hide in masked bushes. And here are some followers of Chechen bandits, only with other slogans, but with too close consequences.
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    2. Akhtuba73
      Akhtuba73 29 March 2014 21: 45
      +9
      Quote: Stroibat stock
      In the same Crimea, decision makers did not hide in masked bushes.

      I think that the situation in the Southeast was somewhat different. There, initially, the percentage of pro-Russian citizens was greater and probably received carte blanche from Russia for protection and intervention in case of something. And here the mainland, SE is flooded with the Right Sector, the governors are appointed to clean up, the police, for the most part, are imported and also clean up, they are raking everyone in the jail for separatism. And to rattle there ahead of time they have no desire, they are needed more on the loose. Therefore, they hide their faces, the time has not come yet. Until it came.
  19. erased
    erased 29 March 2014 21: 08
    0
    Only words, promises, wishes ... The East has not mooed and has not calmed yet. Believe Bandera and the sellers? Or are they waiting? If we would like independence within Ukraine, we would have long held a referendum ourselves. We would like to go to Russia - the same thing. And so ... Polite people do not always come to places where they are not really waiting for them.
  20. delfinN
    delfinN 29 March 2014 21: 11
    +6
    Quote: Nevsky_ZU
    From today, Ukraine has completely frozen deliveries of military products to Russia. sad

    Why is there no news on the VO website?

    And what was supplied then ?. This?
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 29 March 2014 21: 55
      +8
      Quote: delfinN
      And what was supplied then ?. This?

      "Motor Sich" for our aviation - almost all of our helicopters fly on its engines, including combat helicopters: all modifications of the Mi-8, Mi-171, Mi-24, Mi-35, Mi-26, Mi-28, Ka- 27, Ka-29, Ka-32, Ka-50, Ka-52 ...
      Some of these engines are produced (or assembled from the supplied components) in Russia, but only a part, and not at all large. It was only on December 18 of 2012 of the year that entirely from Russian components it was possible to assemble a VK-2500 engine for the Ka-52 and Mi-28 - the domestic version of the TV3-117ВМА that was once developed by Motor Sich specifically for the Ka-50. Previously, the bulk of the parts for the VK-2500 came to Russia with Motor Sich.
      Therefore, the main supplier of both VK-2500 and components for its assembly, as well as other engines for Russian Air Force helicopters, is still the Ukrainian Motor Sich. In addition, it remains a manufacturer of engines for aircraft operated by the Russian Air Force and our civilian airlines: Il-18, Il-38, An-8, An-12, An-24, An-26, An-30, An-32, An- 72, An-74, An-124, An-140, An-148, Be-12, Be-200, Yak-40, Yak-42 ...

      Guided aviation weapons: Kiev concern Artem produces medium-range air-to-air missiles P-27 (ER1, P1, ET1, T1) for MiG-29, Su-27, Su-33, Su-34, Su-35 -60. At the moment, “Artem” is the only manufacturer of missiles of this class for these machines in the post-Soviet space. In Kiev TsKB Arsenal developed infrared (IR) homing heads for missiles R-60, R-73M, R-3 close air combat. The assets of the same Arsenal include aviation sighting systems (for automatically solving the tasks of aiming machine gun and cannon weapons and aimed bombing), mounted on MiG, Sukhoi, Kamov and Mil helicopters. The helmet-mounted target designation system (NSC) “Щ-11УМ-27” is also produced there - it is used by pilots on Su-29, MiG-73 aircraft together with the R-30 missile system, and NSC “Sura” - for the Su-24 aircraft. Even the Ukrainian aviation industry produces all kinds of small things, such as parachute-brake systems - for the Su-27, Su-29, MiG-130, hydraulic and other aircraft systems drives - for the Yak-52, Ka-24, Mi-28, Mi- 8, Mi-17 / 27, MiG-29, MiG-27, Su-30, Su-34, Su-35, Su-95, Tu-160, Tu-XNUMX.

      Another area of ​​Russian-Ukrainian cooperation is cooperation in the field of servicing intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) of the old generation (Soviet-made), which to this day form the basis of Russia's nuclear missile power. In particular, RS-20 (also known as RS-36М, and according to NATO classification - SS-18 "Satan") was developed in the Dnepropetrovsk Design Bureau "Yuzhny" and was produced at the Yuzhmash plant - specialists from Yuzhny and Yuzhmash to this day carry out warranty supervision and analysis of the technical condition of Russian missiles, participating in work to extend their service lives. Parts for old-generation ICBMs are also supplied by Yuzhmash.
      1. FREGATENKAPITAN
        FREGATENKAPITAN 29 March 2014 22: 09
        +1
        And in Samara, what .... engines do for scooters? States (who are in the know) launch a good share of rockets into space on Samara engines
        1. Rus2012
          Rus2012 29 March 2014 22: 22
          +5
          Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
          States (who are in the know) launch a good share of rockets into space on Samara engines

          ... what did you mean by that?
          Let me remind you that the engines for the Komos and ICBMs are still slightly different, at least in the components of the fuels: for space, and all those produced by Samara are based on the ecological components of oxygen-kerosene or something like that;
          combat - UDMH and AK-tetraoxide ...
        2. Bepdukt
          Bepdukt 30 March 2014 01: 38
          0
          Well, why for scooters, whirlwinds on boats, so-so engines, well, even for peaceful space.
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      3. Drёma
        Drёma 30 March 2014 01: 46
        0
        I think many specialists will move.
  21. Ulairy
    Ulairy 29 March 2014 21: 12
    +1
    At the very right in the hands of what? Training layout?
  22. WIN969
    WIN969 29 March 2014 21: 13
    0
    Something Putin is pulling with the southeast.
    1. Afinogen
      Afinogen 29 March 2014 21: 34
      +11
      Quote: WIN969
      Something Putin is pulling with the southeast.


      And what is happening in the southeast? Nothing is happening there, except for the weekend demonstrations. In Crimea there was a desire. All together they stood up for defense, tailed banderlogs were caught and sent back to the zoo. Organized, according to all laws of aerodynamics, they left Ukraine and were also asked to go to Russia in an organized manner.
    2. heir
      heir 29 March 2014 21: 38
      +8
      In my opinion, this southeast is pulling, waiting for something. Instead, no one will come and do. Together - YES! Instead of -?
    3. family tree
      family tree 29 March 2014 22: 28
      +8
      Quote: WIN969
      Something Putin is pulling with the southeast.

      what well, pulls, and cho? It rolled with the Crimea, and also the bays that they say pulls request Impatient everyone, just some haste. laughing
      1. I read the news
        I read the news 29 March 2014 23: 32
        +5
        Nothing, salaries began to be delayed, soon everyone will be on the street.
        1. vlum
          vlum 30 March 2014 00: 51
          0
          When is the payout period for March? March advance did not pay? Or once a month pay salary? Two or three weeks to breakdown from coils or overexposure will occur.

          Although ... if some kind of catastrophe happens ... or a Nazi campaign to the South or East ... or NATO will still uphold their previous plan to send troops to the Odessa region under the pretext of exercises - only in this case everything will be decided suddenly.
      2. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 30 March 2014 00: 37
        +3
        Quote: perepilka
        Impatient everyone, just some haste.

        A ripened apple will fall into its own hands laughing
        Hi Vladimir!
  23. sv68
    sv68 29 March 2014 21: 15
    +1
    or maybe it’s for the better, because nothing is known about them and the presence of latent power often acts sobering. I’m not saying that the right-wingers and other rabble will run home, but now they will walk with caution. The main thing is that there should be no civil war.
    1. Uralean
      Uralean 29 March 2014 22: 34
      +5
      Did not you notice ? The civil war in Ukraine has been going on for three months !! Hundreds of those who died, Thousands of wounded, dozens of watered prisoners, and repressed, and confrontation continue .. one as a mantra they repeat: If only there was no civil war, if only there was no civil war, if only there was no civil war !! Other groups, do not fight civil war, and they take up arms and carry out terrifying actions .. And in Kharkov they shot people, and in the Dnieper, and in Donets, and in Lugansk they catch, maim and take videos, to intimidate opponents, forcing them to obey themselves and weapons .. But something I didn’t see a single armed rebuff of polite fearful of the Civil War .. Even then, when the Cops released the captured militants who killed their comrades-in-arms, they didn’t destroy the same number of those killed for wisdom ... All this is talk and good intentions, but there is NO opposition yet to protect protesters from the police and the right sector !!!
  24. Signaller
    Signaller 29 March 2014 21: 16
    +4
    Yes. Right This confrontation will not last long. There will always be those. who will push. This was already evident when Yanika was thrown off. Let's wait. if my sixth sense is not deceiving, then by May 9 it will begin. Prezik will not be able to choose.
  25. s1н7т
    s1н7т 29 March 2014 21: 17
    +14
    How is it - the interethnic Russian-Ukrainian confrontation "?! We have long been different ethnic groups? The author is duremar stupid! Or does he work for the State Department? My ancestors, my relatives are from the former Podolia. I am ethnically who, in their language? I am Russian! We are all "Russians, they just divided us. They drew a line on the map. But didn't we become different from this?"
  26. sovety
    sovety 29 March 2014 21: 21
    0
    From today, Ukraine has completely frozen the supply of military products to Russia. sad

    Why is there no news on the VO website?
    We are definitely not as critical as this freeze bully
  27. pulemetchik_39
    pulemetchik_39 29 March 2014 21: 22
    +6
    And you need to hang the EU flag from behind to misinform the enemy))) if there is such a flag, any person with a weapon is automatically considered a freedom fighter laughing
  28. skyil
    skyil 29 March 2014 21: 27
    +1
    It is still not evening, or rather not May. Porridge is brewing very thick, the southeast will have a hard time without support; the main thing is that it be on time, as is the case with Syria or the Crimea. There is always hope.
  29. Sevastopol
    Sevastopol 29 March 2014 21: 28
    +1
    I don’t know maybe a fake, but
    Pravoseki want to demolish a monument to actor Leonid Bykov in the image of captain Titarenko

    Source: http://politikus.ru/events/15759-pravoseki-hotyat-snesti-pamyatnik-akteru-leonid
    u-bykovu-v-obraze-kapitana-titarenko.html
    Politikus.ru
    1. I read the news
      I read the news 29 March 2014 23: 34
      0
      Now carefully filter everything, there is harassment pravosek.
  30. Arh
    Arh 29 March 2014 21: 30
    +6
    Partisans We Are Together! ! ! * * *
  31. kelevra
    kelevra 29 March 2014 21: 31
    +4
    Well, if there are tens of thousands of such comrades, or at least several thousand with weapons, then they will be able to do what happened in Crimea.
  32. individual
    individual 29 March 2014 21: 31
    +6
    Ukraine is betting on the presidential election.
    After the withdrawal of V. Klitschko's candidacy, the oligarchs of Ukraine put on P. Poroshenko, Y. Tymoshenko. From the party of "regions" where the main "wallet" Akhmet Rinatov is relegated to a powerful but independent figure Sergei Tigipko.
    Rinat Akhmetov nominates the Kharkiv marginal M. Dobkin and according to the results of the vote M. Dobkin will be merged either P. Poroshenko or Y. Tymoshenko.
    The bogeyman will be sideways.
    Each in different ways, but all the proteges of the oligarchs.
    Here such a policy is seen at this moment.
  33. heir
    heir 29 March 2014 21: 36
    +3
    Everything seems to be correct, explainable and understandable. but ... the authorities arrest whom they want and when they want, and no one stood up during the arrest to protect the activists during the arrest, they didn’t even puncture the wheels, therefore no one guards them. Do not give up yours! Show strength! The rabble from the Maidan is vile, but cowardly!
  34. fif21
    fif21 29 March 2014 21: 36
    +1
    Action, causes opposition. Left radicals are fighting the right. The winner is the one who does not climb into the fray, and sends the survivors to the bunker. In this situation, the only civilized way is peaceful. People should clearly state their position and put it into practice. But these guys should not fight, but ensure the security of their political leaders, elected by the people.
  35. Ivan_Ivanov
    Ivan_Ivanov 29 March 2014 21: 38
    +7
    Why is the southeast not rising?

    If the Southeast rises, a real bloody massacre will begin, a bloody civil war with tens and hundreds of thousands of victims. Sure, we will win! But does Russia need this? Does Ukraine need this? victory at that cost?

    NO!

    Neither Ukraine nor Russia needs this.

    And who needs it?

    America.

    That’s why we haven’t crushed them yet. While there is at least one opportunity to solve the problem in peaceful ways.

    And the single victims that are now are nothing in comparison with tens and hundreds of thousands of victims of the civil war.
    1. vlum
      vlum 29 March 2014 22: 13
      +7
      Can you use the term "civil"?
      If the popular resistance against the Nazis does not rise, then how will it end? Punitive actions against the people. And the farther, the larger the scale. Not sharply, of course, but for a long time.
    2. Tra-ta-ta
      Tra-ta-ta 30 March 2014 00: 30
      0
      good luck on the peaceful path! (set +)
    3. Turkir
      Turkir 30 March 2014 00: 56
      0
      You're right. We must wait for the sobering of silly heads.
    4. Native grandfather
      Native grandfather 30 March 2014 07: 19
      0
      Well then, sit yourself there quietly and do not lean out. Maybe, everything will resolve by itself. Talk to Russia with tearful letters do not write that they offend you there.
  36. Sochi
    Sochi 29 March 2014 21: 39
    +2
    Something is not clear who they are and who is with them. Nothing really happens with their participation.
  37. parus2nik
    parus2nik 29 March 2014 21: 41
    +2
    I doubt already that these are real partisans .. and are they even there, is it a provocation ..
  38. svp67
    svp67 29 March 2014 21: 42
    +4
    Statements ...
    the first ... and the second, which is more interesting ...
  39. Argon
    Argon 29 March 2014 21: 43
    -3
    Extremely negative media march, possibly provocation. Associations with terrorists' appeals immediately arise. Such "bunches" on the air are simply not acceptable. Motherland defenders have no right to cover their faces, at the same time, we all perfectly understand that these people are at risk, if of course we are talking about a really existing organization, the facts of whose operation I personally do not know. And nevertheless, in order to give the appeal an acceptable emotional coloring and information content (in my opinion), it would be necessary to record the appeal on one of the non-Ukrainian TV channels (Transnistria, Abkhazia, Baltic states), the appeal must be read by a woman over 40 ("Motherland" - make-up will allow you to change your appearance) the appeal must be broadcast 2-3 times within a week (it is not necessary to broadcast on the territory of Ukraine) bloggers will convey it to Ukrainians. ", necessarily bloodless - in the current situation, this is a key aspect. PS I apologize for some of the value, but these are the rules of information wars.
    1. svp67
      svp67 29 March 2014 22: 26
      +1
      Quote: Argon
      And most importantly, a "demonstration of strength" is necessary, it is necessarily bloodless - in the current situation this is a key aspect


      Will this work?

      According to our own numerous sources, at present pro-Russian activists are blocking a salt mine to them. Volodarsky, preventing military trucks from leaving his territory.

      Representatives of the Cossacks went to help activists.

      It is known that since Soviet times in this salt mine there are large warehouses of small arms from the times of the first and second world wars. According to the testimony of Artyomovites, in recent days, weapons were intensively taken out of warehouses by army trucks. After the events of January 21 in the capital, the protection of warehouses was strengthened.

      UPD 20:08
      The activists succeeded in unloading two trucks with weapons. Empty cars were released outside the mine. Two more trucks are loaded on the territory of the mine. According to one of the activists, Oleg V., by phone, the military say that the weapons are being taken out by order "for exercises." The situation near the mine is calm; activists make no attempts to enter the restricted area. The number of activists is from 100 to 300 people.
  40. Leshka
    Leshka 29 March 2014 21: 45
    +3
    probably we will witness a new civil war
    1. svp67
      svp67 30 March 2014 00: 00
      +1
      Quote: Leshka
      probably we will witness a new civil war


      We are ALREADY its witnesses, it is good that so far only as spectators, but Ukrainian forum participants and as participants ...
      1. Tra-ta-ta
        Tra-ta-ta 30 March 2014 00: 46
        0
        there will be no civil war. for a long time everything is divided .. gdp - the same cu in the hands of pins
        I suggest that the specialists check the presence of ammunition on the missiles .. most likely there is "zilch" ...
  41. Tehb
    Tehb 29 March 2014 21: 46
    +3
    Everything Putin is doing right. They themselves should be determined, but at first they wanted to go to Russia, now turn the yanyk back and forth. Putin can’t just send troops and squeeze out the floor of Hohland, then we will really be blocked off oxygen.
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    1. Native grandfather
      Native grandfather 30 March 2014 07: 25
      0
      Not when I did not like vulgarity and especially about our leaders. Whatever they are. If in our government this (according to your imagination) can happen, then who are we who voted for them? No, no more jokes like that.
  44. Crazyzyear
    Crazyzyear 29 March 2014 21: 54
    +3
    Even if it is not a provocation, then there is little action, if we would like it very much, then long ago the entire SE would liven up in terms of rallies, gatherings, referenda, polls, etc. without a bloody outcome! Fart into the water - just let the bubbles go!
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    1. I do not care
      I do not care 29 March 2014 22: 09
      +6
      Quote: CrazyBear
      Quote: Wiruz
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      2. Akhtuba73
        Akhtuba73 29 March 2014 23: 45
        +2
        What pumped, then made ... if only did not spit
      3. crona
        crona 30 March 2014 15: 18
        0
        Now does not spit.
  46. ssf2257
    ssf2257 29 March 2014 22: 10
    +2
    Who you guys are is not clear. Patriots, partisans or polite guys. If you have the strength, spirit, noble purpose and support of the population, then God will help you. Everything else is from the evil one.
  47. Kapralwdw
    Kapralwdw 29 March 2014 22: 13
    +7
    Quote: regressSSSR

    Here, the best voiced laughed for a long time)))

    cool !!!!!!!!!!!!! good
    1. locman60
      locman60 30 March 2014 05: 05
      0
      wink class !!!! I really like!!!!
  48. Cossacks
    Cossacks 29 March 2014 22: 14
    +2
    I wholeheartedly for you.
  49. Tra-ta-ta
    Tra-ta-ta 29 March 2014 22: 19
    +1
    God bless you.
  50. Burmistr
    Burmistr 29 March 2014 22: 24
    +4
    Hi people! It was here that I once said that a telephone conversation on the Internet of Timoshenkas about nuclear strikes against Russians is a setup. Not only did no one believe me, but they also made the disadvantages without regret. It is clear that this is the case in the internal competition before the so-called elections in Ukraine for the subject of who can bend more in front of the states and show how far he can go in a conflict with Russia. Unfortunately, everything is going as I expected. The States are preparing to shake the hands of the Ukrainians on us, although I personally would say Russians in Ukraine against Russians in Russia. The question here is how quickly they can do it, because the day is not far off when the green piece of paper turns into a piece of shit. In this regard, they will force events. Now in Ukraine there is a controlled limitlessness and brainwashing. Let's hope that there will be a majority of sane people in Ukraine. Also, under the guise of local law enforcement agencies, military personnel from the states were introduced there, who do not care who to wet, which they are doing in full growth. Wait for the war? Here, first you need to destroy the "fifth column" in Russia. Then no one will come to us for sure. And we will resolve the issue with our Ukrainian relatives. And it's hard for Vovan to do it. She is too formidable force. Here and the constitution is written for them, and it must be changed unambiguously. The sanctions that have been applied to us, no matter how ridiculous they may seem, are just the visible part of the iceberg. There are secret lists that will work in full force and in the long run, because the states are afraid that the Russians will start rallying ahead of time. In general, it is useful to watch an interesting video on this topic:

    1. shurik
      shurik 29 March 2014 23: 22
      +1
      It would not hurt to learn the spelling rules. smile
    2. Tra-ta-ta
      Tra-ta-ta 30 March 2014 00: 13
      0
      ..for some reason, I recalled a joke about sperm during the Act: .. I’m a secretary of the Central Committee, I’m a milkmaid, and an astronaut, and a captain.
      and here the officer on duty, Brothers! We are in the Ass !!!
    3. starpom
      starpom 30 March 2014 00: 53
      +22
      Quote: Burmeister
      Here, first you need to destroy the "fifth column" in Russia.
      1. Tra-ta-ta
        Tra-ta-ta 30 March 2014 01: 19
        +1
        and who is stopping him from destroying column No. 5 ..? let him start with Chubais !!! Ato, as Stepashin shook him ..., he lost his post ...!? But he was a Patriot! Who are you, Mr. GDP? Why did your wife leave you?
        1. locman60
          locman60 30 March 2014 03: 33
          0
          why the hell are these old women needed? ... Volodya well done !!!!
      2. locman60
        locman60 30 March 2014 03: 31
        0
        getting older ... insanity has come
        1. White53
          White53 30 March 2014 06: 30
          0
          I feel sorry for you !! Well, come and come. Bear with me, heal you.