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Minsk "swing"

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Crimea and Sevastopol finally became part of the Russian Federation. For the first time since 1991, part of the historical territories. The development of the situation in Ukraine is closely watched in Belarus.

Quite predictably, supporters of European integration in Belarus supported their ideological allies who seized power in Kiev. Since public actions in Belarus are harshly suppressed, nationalists and all sorts of liberals have raised a real storm in the media they control, especially in the electronic ones. In addition to the traditional condemnation of Russia and the curses addressed to V. Putin, which are not only different from the rhetoric of Yatsenyuk or the political figures of the Baltic regimes, new and interesting passages have appeared. In particular, the topic that A. Lukashenko should draw conclusions from the situation in Ukraine and the Crimea and to take care in advance of ... defending against Russia began to be vigorous. Here are examples of such statements.

“Russia remains an empire - and this means that Moscow is not going to reckon with Belarusian independence,” said columnist Alexander Klaskovsky.

He is convinced that “the Kremlin does not yet see the need to move their Tanks in this direction only because Belarus remains an ally that is attached to Moscow. It is significant that even Alexander Lukashenko understands this imperial danger, he himself spoke about this publicly. ” The chairman of the nationalist and most Russophobic Belarusian Popular Front party, Aleksei Yanukovych, spoke even more frankly: “Ideal in the understanding of President Vladimir Putin would be the option of the full incorporation of Belarus into Russia. It is a political entry by a separate subject of the Russian Federation. Because what is happening in Crimea now clearly demonstrates that those who say that for Putin, for Russia today it’s enough with relatively soft means to control the economy, just buy up the infrastructure, and let Belarus formally remain a politically independent state. However, we see that Putin’s logic of thinking is completely different. He really wants to capture the living space for Russia, he wants to redistribute the borders, at least in Eastern Europe. ” The Honorary Chairman of the United Civil Party (UCP) Stanislav Bogdankevich supported this position: “Russia today trampled and violated all possible international treaties and agreements: the friendship treaty with Ukraine, the inviolability of borders, signed in Kharkov, the Budapest agreement. Russia actually occupied Crimea because suddenly 50 members of “self-defense” cannot appear on the territory of the peninsula - a paramilitary structure armed with Russian weaponsand on Russian armored personnel carriers ".

The Russian-speaking writer and head of the Litkritika portal, Alexander Novikov, who until now often advocated the right of writers in Belarus to use the Russian language, was unexpectedly "noted". It is difficult to say what drives such people as A. Novikov, but in the article “The Ukrainian fault: the Crimean pseudo-referendum at gunpoint and guns,” he surpassed even the recorded Belarusian Russophobes.

“The pseudo-referendum in Crimea has no legal force, but the occupants and the leadership of Russia do not need it either. The issue with the Crimea, it seems, has already been resolved long ago, and now you can observe the realization of the most terrible scenario. Entering the Russian armed forces in the Crimea by some thieves' method - without any identification marks - turned into a tragedy for many Ukrainians. And now we should defend ourselves from Russian aggression, and not from the far-fetched reason for entering — protecting the Russians, ”he wrote.

These and other replicated statements are called upon to intimidate the Belarusians: they say that they will be the next target of “imperial aggression” of Russia.

At the same time, there were thoughts that A. Lukashenko was allegedly concerned about the prospects for the takeover of Belarus in connection with which he refers to the “Maidan” and the situation in Crimea is neutral, taking a wait-and-see attitude.

From the words of the nationalists tried to get down to business. 2 March was an attempt to hold an anti-Russian rally outside the Russian embassy in Minsk. A couple of dozen "Protestants" and almost as many journalists came. The authorities dispersed this small share, detaining the most active participants and organizers. Anti-Russian pickets tried to organize at the Komarovsky market in Minsk.

There were no mass events and supporters of the actions of Russia. However, all organizations of Russian compatriots in Belarus without exception supported the results of the referendum in the Crimea and the decision of Russia to include the Crimea and Sevastopol into the Russian state. 18 March 2014, the following statement was made public: “The Chairman of the Supreme Council of the Republic of Crimea, V.A. Konstantinov, Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the Republic of Crimea S.V. Aksenov, Chairman of the City Council of Sevastopol, Yu.V. Doinikov, head of administration of the city of Sevastopol A.M. Chaly, the people of Crimea, residents of the city of Sevastopol. Dear brothers and sisters! We heartily congratulate you on the successful conduct of the fateful referendum, which returned the city of Russian glory Sevastopol and the Crimea (ancient Tavrida) to the Russian State. We are confident that your decision is only the beginning of the true rebirth of our common Great Fatherland. You have restored historical justice, and we are proud of you. Glory to the Crimea! Glory to Sevastopol! Glory to Russia!". The appeal was signed by 14 associations of Russian compatriots, including, besides the Russians, the Tatars, the Bashkirs, the Dagestanis, and the Chuvash.

Authoritative Belarusian scientists also clearly stated their position. Thus, Doctor of Philosophy Lev Krishtapovich in his commentary to the Mainland portal noted that “the crisis in Ukraine was provoked by the activities of those political forces that are focused on the so-called European choice. And what is called a European choice is a dead-end, hopeless option for Ukraine, since it does not come from the interests of the Ukrainian people, but from the geopolitical claims of the United States and NATO ... "

The only political party that directly supported the holding of a referendum in the Crimea and Sevastopol, was the Republican Party of Labor and Justice (RPTC). Its chairman, Vasily Zadpryny, declared: “Only the people can choose the fate of the Crimea. Not even politicians, let alone third parties, have to decide what the future of the peninsula will be. Indeed, by all the norms of democracy, the only source of power in the Crimea is the people. And this people went the right way! A referendum, like elections, is one of the forms of democracy. It is important that this is a peaceful path that does not lead to human sacrifice. ” However, the Belarusian authorities at first did not rush to support such a point of view.

The discussion that has unfolded on television screens and on the pages of the Belarusian state-run media is quite indicative. One of the main socio-political programs on the Belarusian ONT channel (Public National Television) is the “Position” program.

On air 3 March 2014, TV journalist Tengiz Dumbadze spoke in the sense that each side in Ukraine has its own truth, and you need to understand that for half of Ukraine Bandera and Shukhevych are national heroes.

Along the way, the corresponding report was also shown, which was called "balanced and objective." By the way, Tengiz Dumbadze, one of the ONT program managers, made a career by moving to Belarus from Adjara, where, while working on TV (1991-2004), he supported the position of Belarus regarding the non-recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

In fact, the comments of the BelTA news agency of Belarus were in the same key. One of them says, for example: “... Russians, who consider themselves intellectuals, refuse to analyze anything in the phrase“ Russian Crimea ”and fall into children's ecstasy, recalling Koktebel, the glory of Sevastopol, Chekhov’s house in Yalta and the Bakhchisarai fountain sung by Pushkin. And it's not about massive television propaganda, although its influence cannot be denied. The mass consciousness demonstrates some inexplicable mixture of the recurrence of imperial thinking with the complex of the winner who is restricted in rights. ”

Received resonance and the article "The Crimean clock began counting the new time," published in the main state-owned newspaper "Sovetskaya Belorussia". Commenting on the speech of the Russian president, the newspaper expressed itself rather ambiguously: “... the speech of Vladimir Putin reflects the dominant sentiments in Russian society. And, probably, without open talk about these historical grievances, Russian society is really difficult to move forward. In the presence of similar historical grievances and complexes, Americans usually go to a psychoanalyst (I recall their cult phrase “do you want to talk about this?”), And the Russians take the soul away from politics. And in this case, Putin publicly expressed everything that had previously spilled out on the Internet in forums. ”

All this caused a lot of questions from the pro-Russian public, which probably (like the results of the referendum held in Crimea) led to a certain change in tone in the state media. In the “Position” telecast from 17 in March 2014, a number of well-known political scientists and public figures were able to express their position, who explicitly pointed out that the root cause of the crisis in Ukraine and the current situation in Crimea was the seizure of power in Kiev by extremely nationalist Bandera forces. There were words about the right of Crimeans to determine their own destiny on their own, about the need for the federalization of Ukraine to prevent its collapse.

A poll was conducted during the broadcast of the Belarusians, and this was done for the first time. So, 89% of viewers supported the decision of the Crimea and Sevastopol on joining Russia!
It should be borne in mind that in Belarus, despite the Union State with Russia, there are significant problems for Russian TV channels. Most of them are broadcast with significant bills, interesting and important social and political programs are either postponed far after midnight, or are replaced by the Belarusian TV product. A number of channels are not broadcast at all in Belarus (for example, Russia-24, although Euronews or Ukrainian Inter go cable networks without problems). During the most acute phase of the crisis in Kiev, the Russia-24 channel was unavailable for some time even on the Internet.

At the same time, in the information policy the determining factor is the position of the Belarusian authorities and personally A.G. Lukashenko, which largely explains the dual position taken by the state media. So, immediately after the seizure of power in Kiev, the current Foreign Minister of Belarus, Vladimir Makei, said: “We must carefully analyze both from the national and international legal points of view, and from the point of view of the legitimacy of the current government. We do not refuse to contact them. On the contrary, a number of persons who are part of the new government, we know, have contacted them earlier and intend to maintain normal contacts in the future. ” In official comments there were calls for “all parties” to ensure the territorial integrity of Ukraine.

March 4 The Belarusian President was called by Leonid Kuchma in March 2014 and asked to support the territorial integrity of Ukraine during negotiations with Vladimir Putin.

L. Kuchma’s address was not some kind of spontaneous action, but a completely predictable answer to the statement of A.G. Lukashenko, made them 23 February 2014 of the year. He said then that there would be no “Maidan” in Belarus, but at the same time he remarked: “The Maidan is not for us news. This is not the first time and, you know, with the first maydanovtsy (Viktor Yushchenko and others) I am still friends. They have their own questions, we have ours, and we will build our policy on this. They have their own state, and we have our own ... We have common goals for Ukraine. Ukraine must be complete. No one should razdribanit this great country, it is not a stranger to us. "

A week later, during a meeting on improving admission to institutions of higher and specialized secondary education, the Belarusian leader noted that, in his opinion, corruption and inability to manage the state were to blame for the Ukrainian crisis: “Whatever the economy, whatever we do, if corruption is in the country, this rust will eat away at all. ”

At the same time, due to the buildup of NATO military forces on the borders of the Union State of Russia and Belarus, Moscow and Minsk decided to redeploy additional Russian aviation forces on the territory of Belarus.

According to the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Air Force, Lieutenant-General Viktor Bondarev, until the end of 2014, a Russian fighter aviation regiment in the number of 24 fighters Su-27CM3 will be deployed at the Russian airbase in Baranovichi (Brest region of Belarus).

On March 19, a day after the statement of the Belarusian associations of Russian compatriots, finally appeared the corresponding statement of the Belarusian Foreign Ministry, from which, however, it is difficult to understand what position the Belarusian authorities took. I’ll cite his text posted on the website of the Belarusian Foreign Ministry: “The Republic of Belarus cannot be indifferent to the events in Ukraine, including the referendum held in Crimea on the 16 of March 2014 and the decision on the entry of Crimea into the Russian Federation adopted on its results. Belarus, Russia and Ukraine are fraternal states that bind the bonds of a common centuries-old history. On the contradictions that arose between us, external forces repeatedly tried to play and use them for selfish purposes. Now we are particularly deeply concerned about the attempts of politicians, in reality, far from the events taking place in the region, to decide what is good and what is bad for our Slavic peoples. Given today's realities, the Republic of Belarus is opposed to a one-sided, biased interpretation of the principles of international law for the sake of geopolitical interests, attempts to declare the uniqueness of some international situations and territories and ignore others. To theorize on this topic today is to drive the problem into a dead end. Belarus will make every possible effort to return relations between Ukraine and Russia to fraternal and good-neighborly relations, help find solutions to all existing contradictions and prevent violent confrontation. "

Naturally, the journalists next day, during a briefing by the spokesman for the Foreign Ministry Dmitry Mironchik, tried to find out whether Belarus was in favor of or against the Crimean referendum, but the answer was: “I can only repeat that the position of the Republic of Belarus on this set of issues is set forth in a statement by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Belarus. " In other words, again, neither yes nor no.

It seemed that the history of 2008 of the year (non-recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia) is repeated ... Such ambiguity did not go unnoticed in the West.

Officially, the European Union and the United States shy away from direct contacts with the Belarusian president. However, the British political scientist Andrew Wilson commented on the situation quite curiously, who said: “... Lukashenko pointedly refused to send observers to a referendum in the Crimea. He also challenged Moscow, saying that he would work with the new pro-Western government in Kiev (which Vladimir Putin called "illegal") ... Lukashenko wants to avoid having to make a choice between Russia and the West. He was always happy to be an ally of Russia, but only as a leader of a strong, independent state, capable of pursuing his own course ... Not surprisingly, Lukashenka has obviously tried to be away from Putin in recent weeks. Belarus began to hint at what it wants to improve relations with the EU, agreeing in February to participate in visa negotiations with Brussels. But any progress towards the EU will go slowly; Lukashenko is still a dictator, who has little interest in meeting European democratic standards. Lukashenko is now in a Russian camp and is considering ways out. And until he goes to the door, only for the time being. ”

And this is just one of many such comments. A massive propaganda campaign has been launched in Belarus and around it, designed to bring disagreement between Moscow and Minsk and to achieve non-recognition by Belarus of the results of the referendum in the Crimea and its return to Russia.

However, the West should not overestimate its capabilities in Belarus. The turning point regarding the situation in the Crimea and in Ukraine as a whole occurred on March 23. A. Lukashenko, who traditionally treats any Western initiatives with great suspicion, made it clear that Belarus remains an ally of Russia: “Crimea is not an independent state like the same Ossetia, Abkhazia, etc. Crimea today is part of the territory of the Russian Federation. You can admit it or not, but this will not change anything ... It's bad that you had to, including the Russian Federation, take such measures. But if you ask me, because of the historical past, due to the fact that we are one people, because we have created, are creating, we are implementing a single project of the Union State, that we are connected by agreements with the Russian Federation - we will be with the Russian Federation. And we must stop all speculation! We do not direct our foreign, domestic policy, military policy against NATO, against anyone else, and so on - we will pursue a balanced policy, but if the question arises - we will be with Russia. ”

At the same time, A. Lukashenko took a special position on the territorial structure of Ukraine, which, according to him, “should remain a single, indivisible, integral, non-aligned state, because it is very sensitive for us to be for Russia, if we assume that tomorrow it will land NATO troops in Ukraine - this we generally can not allow, it is our global interest. Therefore, we must agree. Further to Ukraine, no one has the right to climb ... "

The Belarusian leader clearly expressed his attitude to the self-proclaimed Kiev “authorities”. "Some of the so-called politicians who today are about power and power in Ukraine call themselves the" heirs of Bandera ", the UNA-UNSO, the UPA - the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists ... They burned quite a few of our people, including Khatyn, on the territory of Belarus, and not only - probably, it was enough for Ukraine ... They destroyed thousands of our people! Tell me: if the people who are in power today in Ukraine associate themselves with these nonhumans, what should the Belarusians have to do with this, and not only Belarusians? Relevant.

After this speech, it became clear that Belarus remains true to its allied duty to Russia and does not intend to repeat its own mistakes of the year.

Those who hoped that official Minsk would try to continue the existing scheme of relations with Russia and with the illegitimate Ukrainian leadership, simply ignoring the Crimea issue, calling on the parties to “peace and mutual understanding”, clearly miscalculated. The calculation of the West as a whole and the Belarusian opposition was based on the fact that Belarus, also experiencing a significant influence on the internal politics of its own nationalist groups, focused on the neo-Banderas who came to power in Kiev, will avoid the topic of all-Russian unity while concurring manifestations of creeping Russophobia. But A. Lukashenko is well aware that such a “sitting on two chairs” eventually led V. Yanukovych to a very sad result. And Ukraine, too. Belarus seems to have learned from this a serious lesson.
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  1. Sergg
    Sergg 30 March 2014 07: 22
    +21
    Crimea is the territory of Russia - and this is forever. It is a pity that Russia's policy in eastern Ukraine is not very intelligible. If Russia returns these historically Russian lands to itself, nothing will happen in this world. This event will be swallowed by the USA and Europe. And Russia will become an even stronger power. Well, the east of Ukraine can continue to live in peace, which in fact should be the goal of the Kremlin.
    1. shibi
      shibi 30 March 2014 07: 26
      +24
      East of Ukraine is a delicate matter.
      If ours shoot at least once, the whole world will send its rabid dogs, which so far are just yapping, to Russia.
      1. platitsyn70
        platitsyn70 30 March 2014 08: 15
        +15
        It’s not for nothing that the Old Man has the glory of the most cunning CIS politician.
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 30 March 2014 09: 11
          +25
          Quote: platitsyn70
          It’s not for nothing that the Old Man has the glory of the most cunning CIS politician.

          At least, he certainly had the mind to prevent the oligarchs from accessing their factories and collective farms, as they did in the Russian Federation and Ukraine! Therefore, Belaz is produced (and they hold a third of the world market for heavy trucks), and a residential area will be built on the site of the ZIL plant, and the factory buildings will be demolished.
          http://www.kommersant.ru/gallery/2406378#id=987073
          1. Ataman
            Ataman 30 March 2014 11: 26
            +12
            In Belarus, 97% of the population is Russian or, as they say, Russian-speaking today. Now hold a referendum on joining the Russian Federation and the percentage of "For" will not be lower than in Crimea. Only the authorities and the opposition do not need it. And there are no other political forces in Belarus.
            1. vlum
              vlum 30 March 2014 11: 49
              -11%
              And this is not necessary not only for them in Belarus, but also in Russia such an extreme with total connections of everything is not needed from anywhere.
              And in general, the world trend is now in obtaining sovereignty by any relatively small territories. Surely, over time, the intra-Russian format of relations with the regions will also change. Gradually, constitutionally. And it is not yet quite clear in details how exactly, but the republics within the federation will definitely expand their rights. But political forces will also be formatted for these processes - for each subject of the federation, most likely. So, until there is clarity in the outlines of the new Eurasian union of republics, with the simultaneous sovereignty of each member of this union, they will try to avoid abrupt actions. And this path is very risky. But "partners" will force us to follow this path.
              1. jjj
                jjj 30 March 2014 14: 01
                +6
                Now you can say a lot of hot words. Nevertheless, it is probably better to wait a bit until the situation clears up.
            2. Black
              Black 30 March 2014 13: 00
              +16
              Quote: Ataman
              Now hold a referendum on joining the Russian Federation and the percentage of "For" will not be lower than in Crimea.


              You hurried it up.
              will be- not just lower, it will be below 50%.
              In Belarus, the life of the so-called may not be so sweet. "middle class", but most of the population is comfortable and calm. Not everyone wants to enter the world of privatization, "market", cops and power permissiveness.
            3. vjhbc
              vjhbc 30 March 2014 14: 03
              +20
              it’s your twist already, we speak Russian, we are for Russia, but we are not yet welcomed to join Russia, and until basically your elite will be comprador and will not be welcomed.
              1. Field
                Field 30 March 2014 14: 57
                +4
                We are one people, all differences are artificially created and written in order to "divide and rule" us
                1. AleksUkr
                  AleksUkr 30 March 2014 15: 08
                  +7
                  Quote: Field
                  We are one people

                  I agree to all 100%. But do not forget, Friendship, friendship, and tobacco apart. He has his own opinion ...
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            5. polite people
              polite people 30 March 2014 23: 31
              +1
              Do not touch the Belarusians. Nekhai live peacefully - everything is fine with them.
          2. Saburov
            Saburov 30 March 2014 23: 58
            0
            Smirnov, you can express even a single comment without a groan about how badly we live and what kind of authorities we have and the oligarchs are greedy, judging by your comments, you should get a salary for this, otherwise you get a very bad impression of you, like a young lady do not like the power, go fight for another, do not want the demolition of the plant, organize a picket, do not like the products, learn some useful profession, do not like politicians, run for the thought yourself, what are you people doing nothing for? I am also for the revival of the USSR, but I won’t be able to return it in its previous form, it’s a fact and only the especially gifted among the underdeveloped do not understand it now.
        2. RUSS
          RUSS 30 March 2014 09: 17
          +11
          Quote: platitsyn70
          It’s not for nothing that the Old Man has the glory of the most cunning CIS politician.


          Rather, the most dodgy.
          1. WKS
            WKS 30 March 2014 10: 55
            +21
            Lukashenko was clearly waiting for the sanctions promised by Obama, and not having waited, he finally began to determine further rhetoric. He did not really want to fall under severe economic sanctions with Russia. Having met with the pastor, he is trying to find profitable intermediary functions for himself. But the pastor as a political figure is pure zero, but rather six. The meeting of the legitimate Lukashenko with such a person at least commentizes him.
            1. Irtysh
              Irtysh 30 March 2014 12: 45
              +8
              Do you really think that father is conducting a policy inconsistent with Russia and Kazakhstan?

              At the moment, he is one of the few who has the opportunity to learn from the source information and undistorted to pass it on to interested parties. (I mean Russia and Ukraine).
          2. Irtysh
            Irtysh 30 March 2014 12: 42
            +11
            I agree. But father will not miss the slightest opportunity not to beat out preferences. Maybe this is not bad for Belarusians. But at the same time, he has a clear understanding that without Russia Belarus will be crushed instantly, the economy will be crushed, and the people will become the litter of the west.

            Thanks to the resourcefulness of the father, it is possible to balance. And not the worst situation among Belarusians among European countries.
            1. Field
              Field 30 March 2014 14: 59
              0
              Quote: Irtysh
              Thanks to the resourcefulness of the father, it is possible to balance. And not the worst situation among Belarusians among European countries.

              And father also has a "position".
          3. lana044
            lana044 30 March 2014 14: 12
            +5
            One has already dodged ... As if the old man did not repeat his fate.
            1. Field
              Field 30 March 2014 15: 01
              +3
              Quote: lana044
              One has already dodged ... As if the old man did not repeat his fate.

              That father and squirmed
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        4. Turkir
          Turkir 30 March 2014 11: 41
          +7
          Trick is a tool.
          Is the master smart? winked
        5. avg
          avg 30 March 2014 12: 12
          +9
          Quote: platitsyn70
          It’s not for nothing that the Old Man has the glory of the most cunning CIS politician.

          Only these tricks are "sewn with white thread" wink
        6. Interface
          Interface 30 March 2014 12: 46
          0
          "Hey people, I heard that the rights of Russians are being violated near Gomel." laughing
          Only he lacks courtesy, hike
        7. Dilshat
          Dilshat 30 March 2014 12: 59
          +12
          In words, a comrade and a patriot. That’s still a bug. Only without Russia Belarus and Ukraine are just Native American lands to be mastered. Saddam and Gaddafi also wanted to pass between two fires. But Satan cannot be won by cards.
        8. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 30 March 2014 13: 39
          +6
          Quote: platitsyn70
          CIS's most cunning politician

          More likely cunning

          "Nobody should tear this great country apart"
          Can anyone say why she is great?
        9. AleksUkr
          AleksUkr 30 March 2014 14: 59
          +2
          Quote: platitsyn70
          It’s not for nothing that the Old Man has the glory of the most cunning CIS politician.

          But after all, everyone knows that for the cunning F ..., there is something with a screw ... And not only ...
        10. Uhalus
          Uhalus 30 March 2014 16: 00
          -4
          Right! Let, let them teach Old Man to edit :)))))))
        11. vjhbc
          vjhbc 30 March 2014 17: 12
          +8
          I read the Comments and I got the impression that the Russians, honestly to Belarus, honestly heard some kind of shit from you, but I have always been for Russia
          1. Day 11
            Day 11 30 March 2014 17: 19
            +4
            Old man, believe me, you MUCH mistaken! The Belarusian people are BROTHERS for us !!! The whole market went for Father But
          2. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 30 March 2014 18: 01
            0
            Quote: vjhbc
            Russian on-the-a-be on Belarus

            If it were, loans and oil would not be given duty free
          3. Andrei Forge 67
            Andrei Forge 67 30 March 2014 19: 04
            +2
            Yes, you’re not afraid, we are for Belarus. But it’s insulting when it seems like a friend starts to wag his tail !!!! Here is another ally of Nazarbayev who put his tongue himself you know where!
            1. vjhbc
              vjhbc April 5 2014 01: 51
              +1
              comrades, here everyone blames the Balts and the rest of Europe for the fact that they are completely in line with America and do not have their own opinion, and immediately blame Belarus for the fact that it does not behave in the same way, but you already decide on Russia or you are for independent states or we need to behave as we say Latvia or Lithuania gave the command Putin and Belarusians to America immediately woof woof
          4. Uhalus
            Uhalus April 3 2014 18: 57
            0
            Again make excuses ... sad It was understood that in Belarus, order, agriculture, industry worked, oligarchs did not gobble up and ruin them, there were almost no national problems, a decent education and - most importantly! - development. Not perfect development, but still there. And A.G. Lukashenko proved himself to be a decent ruler. The fact that he can somehow doubt, weigh and bustle is quite natural, in my opinion: he cannot be missed. Nevertheless, I have the impression that he is on our Russian side in matters of Ukraine and the Crimea.
            That is why - with irony - and I am writing on the topic "teach to rule" to all Westerners.
        12. Harlampy
          Harlampy 30 March 2014 23: 57
          0
          Not cunning. Tricked out. It would not have found a BOLT with reverse thread. TIME, DAD, DECIDE. With whom you are?
      2. vladimirZ
        vladimirZ 30 March 2014 08: 24
        +22
        Supporters of European integration are completely predictable ... nationalists and liberals of all kinds have raised a real storm in the media under their control, especially in the electronic ones. In addition to the traditional condemnation of Russia and the curses against V. Putin ... (from the article)


        Again we lose the information war for the minds of people, for their patriotic positions in defense of the Russian world, uniting not only Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians, but also all other Russian-speaking nations and nationalities of the former USSR - Russia.
        Need to understand If we do not conduct an active offensive ideological struggle for the restoration of the Russian World, do not restrict and prohibit the work of various media of various kinds of "European integrators", local nationalists, liberals blindly and gloriously copying the West on our territory, then we will lose. We will be blown up from the inside again, as the USSR was blown up earlier, and now Ukraine.
        If we continue such ideological tolerance, we will inevitably get a Maidan people like Kiev, but already in Russia and Belarus.
        1. aleks700
          aleks700 30 March 2014 10: 17
          +4
          Your golden words!
        2. vlum
          vlum 30 March 2014 11: 10
          +8
          All right, but not people we get, but just crowds.
        3. avg
          avg 30 March 2014 12: 15
          +4
          Quote: vladimirZ
          Again we lose the information war for the minds of people, for their patriotic positions in defense of the Russian world, uniting not only Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians, but also all other Russian-speaking nations and nationalities of the former USSR - Russia.

          + + + + +
        4. DS14
          DS14 30 March 2014 15: 20
          +8
          Quote: vladimirZ
          lead an active offensive ideological struggle for the restoration of the Russian world

          I have a Russian world in my family :) I am half Ukrainian, my wife is half Belarusian; as a result - a daughter-smart-beauty half Russian, a quarter Ukrainian and a quarter Belarusian. Who will divide us? :))) Father-in-Belarus, yes, cunning and stubborn - well, just like a dad :)
      3. APASUS
        APASUS 30 March 2014 09: 11
        +13
        Quote: sibi
        If ours shoot at least once, the whole world will send its rabid dogs, which so far are just yapping, to Russia.

        And to hell with him with this world.
        Abramovich won’t buy another yacht or some governor will refuse to buy another cottage on the Cote d'Azur at the state’s expense and that’s all. The main part of the people doesn’t go to study in Spruce, doesn’t rest in Miami, and it’s quite possible to refuse their sausage!
        And when they begin to refuse credit to us, then we will have to return all the money from abroad and invest in our own country, and not in shares of bonds of foreign countries
        1. Day 11
          Day 11 30 March 2014 09: 19
          +1
          For APASUS. This is not a question of their smelly money, but of their TECHNOLOGIES - here we really lag behind a lot. They will close the valve and ... what to do? Then you need to activate the work of the SVR and the FSB over the hill, stupidly buy, again their stinky bucks
          1. vlum
            vlum 30 March 2014 11: 13
            +5
            I do not want to offtopic, but about which Technology speech?
            Really lagging behind? But do we need it, then what are we, as it were, behind?
            1. Day 11
              Day 11 30 March 2014 11: 35
              +2
              Definitely need !!! Don’t be offended, but you can’t quite imagine the current alignment of forces. Oil and gas are certainly good to pump, but ALL Europe and others work for the Yankees. There are so many research institutes, laboratories, etc. Smart people are everywhere and EVERYTHING works on nih. And we are only 140 million (+ -). In reality, we will lag behind (if everything is blocked) by ... In short, far lag
              1. vlum
                vlum 30 March 2014 12: 09
                +4
                So I don’t argue that I can’t imagine something ;-)

                I’ve been trying lately to catch (several years already) what is the essence: something I don’t believe in the total binding of all the geopolitical interests of players on a global scale to oil and gas alone.

                There is no sense of the balance of the system at a fundamental level. It seems that there should be some other strategic elements, resources or technologies, which are kept quiet, but are valid. And publicly they still operate with ready-made stamps "oil", "gas", "blue fuel", "petrodollars", etc.
                1. IgorM
                  IgorM 30 March 2014 17: 48
                  0
                  That's for sure. Do not forget about the so-called "World Government", a certain group of people wants to carry out a global restructuring of the Earth's governance. In their progressive, as they understand it, goals. Maybe Aliens?
          2. Stanislas
            Stanislas 30 March 2014 11: 52
            +4
            Quote: Den 11
            Then you need to intensify the work of the SVR and the FSB over the hill-stupidly buy-again their stinky bucks
            It will not hurt us to increase the activity of our intelligence services, especially against the background of the growing activity of amerovskoy intelligence. And their "smelly bucks", if they are used not for stupid replacement of those absent, but for the development of our technologies, you can tolerate.
            1. Day 11
              Day 11 30 March 2014 12: 10
              +8
              I see only one way out --- To be fruitful and multiply !!! I really only have two, but I will hammer them, so that they each have three! And leave the dollar, raise your ruble and make it a world payment unit!
              1. Pilat2009
                Pilat2009 30 March 2014 14: 12
                +2
                Quote: Den 11
                I see only one way out --- To be fruitful and multiply !!!

                Caucasian republics and migrants multiply for us already
                Are considered by Russians, in fact, Busurman
                And now the Chinese are also coming to breed
                Soon it’s possible the Indians will reach out
                1. Day 11
                  Day 11 30 March 2014 14: 22
                  +3
                  Do we have any physiological problems? What is stopping me from multiplying? Like until I make a career, I won’t have children. So what? And Caucasians, by the way, don’t bother with this question (if relatives and friends help) - -is it bad?
                2. Field
                  Field 30 March 2014 15: 03
                  +2
                  With blacks together.
                  When I found out that about 50000 people (mostly women) were surprised by our citizens in Syria.
                  1. Day 11
                    Day 11 30 March 2014 15: 23
                    0
                    What is the logical connection between blacks and Syrians (Arabs)?
          3. APASUS
            APASUS 30 March 2014 12: 43
            +4
            Quote: Den 11
            For APASUS. This is not a question of their smelly money, but of their TECHNOLOGIES - here we really lag behind a lot. They will close the valve and ... what to do?

            This valve is two-way, it will be bad for us and they will have to explain to our citizens why we left the Russian market, it’s not so simple. Russia is so integrated into the world economy that it’s impossible to punish us alone. It’s nothing special for us to break with the USA But the European manufacturer will really suffer.
            For example, last year SIEMENS reported that it received 14 billions of euros from working with Russia. Despite the fact that there are countries in the world that produce similar technologies and are less ambitious in their views, I mean China, South Korea, Japan, Brazil, India and a number of countries .
            The way out is to expand cooperation with Asian countries.
            And the emergence of a global crisis due to attempts to punish us is quite possible ............ but really you just need to agree!
    2. Gloria45
      Gloria45 30 March 2014 12: 19
      +12
      I don’t understand what’s wrong with Putin trying to revive
      Russian empire? This is our strength. It is clear that the West will strongly resist this.
      But ours something to look to the West? Is it really so desirable to identify
      yourself with this pan-European biomass? What can the west offer?
      You cannot spread your false democracy, which you won’t put in your pocket,
      you will not pour into a glass
      1. Black
        Black 30 March 2014 13: 39
        +4
        Quote: gloria45
        But ours something to look to the West? Is it really so desirable to identify
        yourself with this pan-European biomass?


        We are undoubtedly going overboard here on the site in relation to the west. In many ways, the West deserves criticism, and sometimes even mockery, but it is not very correct to call Germans, Swedes, Norwegians "biomass".
        In the West, there is something to learn, there is someone to cooperate with, in the end, we will live with them on the same mainland ...
        And to live in some, even worse, agreement is better than in confrontation.
        1. smile
          smile 30 March 2014 13: 51
          +6
          Black
          Perhaps I agree. But it must be borne in mind that degradation there really is in full swing. Moreover, under the wise guidance of their own authorities. Their people, of course, resist, but so far the trend is just that. And by the way, it would be beneficial for us if Europe became strong - it would then be more independent and leave the US dictatorship. And then we could calmly agree on normal mutually beneficial relations. So far I’ve done a lot of work.
        2. Gloria45
          Gloria45 30 March 2014 14: 38
          +6
          I agree with you that yes there are thinking people in Europe, these are people
          older generation. Youth, it seems to me, every fifth is tight
          sits, at least, on marijuana, and in combination with alcohol, etc.
          you know, leads to sad consequences - this is schizophrenia.
          This diagnosis is absolutely common here. And another one
          a chip called incest, by the way in the Norway you mentioned
          this phenomenon is being cultivated in full swing. Out of 10 newborns
          only 2 full-fledged and these two, usually born from Russian
          immigrants. This is statistics. Germany - Jugendamt, is biomass cultivated by this
          youth organization? I'm only afraid that we will not become a product of such
          organizations.
          In France there is the town of Saint-Etienne, so you can
          imagine, being in this city, I personally was extremely
          not comfortable, something so elusive-unpleasant was in the faces of residents
          of this city. I thought it was only my feelings, but when I turned
          to your companions, what is it? explained to me that several centuries
          back families practiced kinship here because land
          it’s very fertile and expensive here and in such a way as to preserve
          their lands provided themselves with inferior offspring for centuries.
          These are not my fantasies, these are my observations in real
          time.
      2. Berkut-UA
        Berkut-UA 30 March 2014 21: 46
        0
        and all this is headed by a superpower
    3. mihasik
      mihasik 30 March 2014 13: 03
      +10
      "Taking" the East and South of Ukraine is already an intervention, and the people there still cannot unite. And you can "take" only after the referendums. This is not Crimea. "I liked" one remark of the Donbass workers: "We will be kicked out of work if we hold a meeting. There are many who wish to take our place!" But what about the general strike with the blocking of enterprises after such statements? After all, the oligarchs are also disadvantageous to strikes, lost profits, especially in these conditions. But hard workers are afraid to give a voice. What does this mean? I don't want to offend anyone, but sending troops now is a thankless task.
    4. polite people
      polite people 30 March 2014 23: 30
      0
      The most difficult thing is not to take, but to keep ...
    5. Vittt
      Vittt 31 March 2014 00: 16
      0
      the author wanted to embrace the immensity !. But the figures of his speech remained the same - Lukash wags, merges and torpedoes the Crimea! Fuck off .. you are from him - he is the only person at the moment who is talking with Ukraine. True - The situation is super-stressful - it’s half-Belarusian-semi-Ukrainian. I studied in Ternopol! - if the hydropark was buried there - everyone will answer - sectors-shmectors, freedoms, fagots. You scum could not save their homeland, hamadril !!!
  2. shibi
    shibi 30 March 2014 07: 22
    +4
    The dog barks, the caravan goes (s)
  3. TAGIR
    TAGIR 30 March 2014 07: 27
    +35
    Even if the Russians have a hard time due to the sanctions (beer only Zhigulevskoe, only Russian vodka, only Doktorskaya sausage and only tomato sprat) we will never give up Crimea. Otherwise, why do we need a "suit with ebb" without Yalta.
    1. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov 30 March 2014 11: 09
      +2
      Quote: TAGIR
      Even if the Russians have a hard time due to the sanctions (beer only Zhigulevskoe, only Russian vodka, only Doktorskaya sausage and only tomato sprat) we will never give up Crimea. Otherwise, why do we need a "suit with ebb" without Yalta.

      Thank you TAGIR RU!
      ++++++++++++++++++++++!
    2. Andrei Forge 67
      Andrei Forge 67 30 March 2014 19: 12
      +2
      By the way a good grocery set !!!!
  4. Cossacks
    Cossacks 30 March 2014 07: 33
    +21
    He served for some time in Belarus. I’m calm for this republic, while Lukashenko’s power will be all right. In our city, the cheapest and most delicious sour cream, butter from Belarus. Our shitmen do not like Lukashenko because he is a living reproach to our worthless politics. And about the swing, the author got excited.
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 30 March 2014 09: 49
      +11
      Quote: Cossacks
      And about the swing, the author got excited.
      Yes, there are no swings. It is simply important for Lukashenko not to allow our oligarchs and bureaucrats who love to make money to plants, factories and collective farms. He will not allow and do the right thing in the economy, and he will be an ally in politics, and he will build relations with Russia competently.
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 30 March 2014 09: 51
        +12
        Where is he an ally? Recognized Abkhazia and South Ossetia? Again, about the Crimea
        1. samoletil18
          samoletil18 30 March 2014 11: 09
          +8
          Quote: Den 11
          Where is he an ally? Recognized Abkhazia and South Ossetia? Again, about the Crimea

          You don't have to comment further. Lukshenko in relation to Russia: "where she went to sleep, there is the Motherland." At the very moment of truth, a "balanced policy" begins. Is always.
          1. Belarus
            Belarus 30 March 2014 12: 30
            +19
            Well, at least someone called a spade a spade. Here and I say that as soon as necessary:
            1) Gas discount
            2) Credit
            3) sales of goods in the Russian Federation
            4) any preferences
            then he says that he is a friend of Russia and other flattery, but as soon as Russia has any kind of difficulties or problems, the phrase immediately sounds:
            .... we have a balanced, multi-vector, independent position.
            And they also like to say that we fought against fascism in the same trenches.
            Personally, this only makes me disgusted and insulted for the country.
            1. Day 11
              Day 11 30 March 2014 12: 42
              +5
              I’m wondering, how does Father bring up Kolya? In Russophobian channel or vice versa? The question is serious, who will have to build a line then
            2. Irtysh
              Irtysh 30 March 2014 12: 57
              +10
              It happens, politicking. But at the same time, if all the time 100% blow only one tune with fraternal Russia, then the oligarchs will poke him with a moment. Figs, he will then unscrew them. And then with all that it implies: the closure of Belarusian enterprises that are not profitable for them, the flow of uncontrolled crime, the final impoverishment ...

              So you have to fill the price, maneuver. But sometimes it doesn’t look beautiful, but, probably, no one will argue here, it has a concrete applied sense.

              By the way, it seems to me that Putin understands this very well and is not very complex about this.
              1. smile
                smile 30 March 2014 14: 01
                +9
                Irtysh
                Tell me, please, why are you so worried about the oligarchs who can be "pushed" to you? You also have them, homegrown. Exactly the same as ours, no more honest than ours, just due to the size of the country, a little smaller. Or did yours become oligarchs because their salaries were high and they unloaded wagons at night?
                Can you name the Belarusian oligarchs who feel quite comfortable under Lukashenko? Or do you already know them? You see. the horror story about our oligarchs was not just invented and used. Think about who, why, and for what purpose it does.
                1. Mentor
                  Mentor 30 March 2014 15: 31
                  +1
                  Our oligarchs simply sit on the president’s hook. They will not have time to wash off abroad, as they do in Russia, if they forget for a moment who is the boss in the republic. But the Russians in Belarus sometimes lose their sense of proportion. Potash is an example of this.
                  1. smile
                    smile 30 March 2014 16: 10
                    +2
                    Mentor
                    I agree that Butska holds your oligarchs for ... the details are much stronger than our Putin.
                    Although now our situation is very different from that. what we had in the early and mid 2000s. Now they don’t run like that. :))) Ours has also been broken up now, albeit not in the same way as yours, unfortunately. But Butska calmly allowed their existence, and he is not annoyed by the sources of their income. So that they are almost the same as ours.

                    And in the potash business .... A good example. :))) It is a vivid example of the fact that Butska does not shun in the interests of her oligarchs to act illegally against strangers, that’s all. Putin, for example, did not reach such a point and did not publicly scandal and put pressure on Belarus, protecting our oligarchs .... which, I repeat - are no different from yours.
                    Let me remind you that I personally repeatedly read in Belarusian media reports that the prosecutor's office of Belarus prevented the bad actions of our oligarch, which infringe on the interests - attention - of Canadian, Israeli and Belarusian entrepreneurs. Do you like the actions of the Belarusian prosecutor’s office protecting the interests of Canadians and Israelis from bad Russian businessmen? I don’t.

                    Okay, we won’t breed this doggie again, these disputes are harmful both for you and for us. But still try to assess the situation objectively. Think about it.
                    1. Andrei Forge 67
                      Andrei Forge 67 30 March 2014 19: 18
                      +2
                      Krasava !!!!!!!
            3. Genur
              Genur 30 March 2014 14: 35
              +3
              Nose downwind ...
              Tell who your friend is ...
            4. Field
              Field 30 March 2014 15: 05
              +1
              Quote: Belarus
              when he says that he is a friend of Russia and other flattery, but as soon as Russia has any kind of difficulties or problems, the phrase immediately sounds: .... we have a balanced, multi-vector, independent position. Yes, and they still love us to say that we fought in the same trenches against fascism.

              Quote: Belarus
              when he says that he is a friend of Russia and other flattery, but as soon as Russia has any kind of difficulties or problems, the phrase immediately sounds: .... we have a balanced, multi-vector, independent position. Yes, and they still love us to say that we fought in the same trenches against fascism.

              And the fact that we are one people essentially tell you?
              Or Belarusians (yes, we are all Russians) in our "gentry" were recorded?
        2. ded
          ded 30 March 2014 11: 37
          +3
          Where is he an ally? Recognized Abkhazia and South Ossetia? Again, about the Crimea


          Here's how Luke loves Russia:
          lukashenko-ne-dovolen-chto-ukrainskie-voennye-v-krymu-ne-voevali-s-rossiey

          In Belarus: TOP Lukashenko is not satisfied that the Ukrainian military did not fight Russia in Crimea

          Schuster S. [/ b] But, let's say, the presidents are one thing, the people are another thing, and the majority of the people of Ukraine, I take this responsibility to say, most people consider this to be a military seizure of the territory of Ukraine, which Ukraine will never recognize, she is never going to give Crimea. This is the position of Ukrainians today. A. Lukashenko. [/ B] Savik, and I do not contradict this opinion of Ukrainians or any part of the population. Some part thinks not only in Ukraine. In Belarus and in Russia itself, a certain part also thinks so. But today you didn’t ask me a question about this, you told me: de facto do you acknowledge that this is the territory of Russia? Yes, de facto, this is the territory of Russia. Moreover, by their actions, the current leadership of Ukraine has recognized that this is not their territory. Why did they leave, why did they take the military out of there?

          Come on, humanly.

          Why not fight if it's your land? Why didn’t they defend their land?

          In a terrible dream (God forbid!) I imagine that this could happen to Belarus ... You know, even if our military did the same as the Ukrainian, sat like mice under a broom at their bases (this, of course, is difficult imagine in Belarus!), [b] I am the first one, I would have gone to fight alone. [/ b]

          Now guess from 3 times:

          - What was the first country I visited with gratitude (Lukashenko said that Belarusian citizens can visit Abkhazia only with the permission of Georgia and enter the territory of Abkhazia only from the Georgian side) after the war on 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX Saakashvili?

          Hint: this is not the United States and not Ukraine.
          1. tokin1959
            tokin1959 30 March 2014 15: 26
            +6
            Luke with this interiorview pretty bad.
            The Ukrainian military in Crimea did the right thing, that they did not fire a single shot.
            no matter how they try to divide us with the Ukrainians using Western political technologies - but at a subconscious level - we are one nation.
            and Luke adds fuel to the fire.
            Nazarbayev decided to bring 300000 thousand Uighurs from China to the north of Kazakhstan.
            http://www.amic.ru/news/258843/
          2. Andrei Forge 67
            Andrei Forge 67 30 March 2014 19: 21
            +2
            already all banned!
          3. wax
            wax 30 March 2014 23: 00
            0
            There are many Belarusians in Abkhazia in the summer, and they all travel through Adler. Lukashenko is also a bug who loves power. It spins accordingly, but the region knows.
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      2. Irtysh
        Irtysh 30 March 2014 12: 50
        -3
        Well, sometimes it happens and goes too far. Not without it. Well Duc, Curcul - not always bad :)
        1. Field
          Field 30 March 2014 15: 22
          +4
          Simply, father, when he sees a threat (obvious or imaginary) to his personal domination (power, so to speak), he always reacts. Well, plus, father, the merchant is still one. I take chocolate and that Belarusian, because the state standards have not changed.
    2. Turkir
      Turkir 30 March 2014 11: 58
      +7
      I myself trust the products from Belarus. God grant that they have everything calm.
      But, a recent youth demonstration in Minsk in support of the American coupists suggests that not everything is so calm. Especially in terms of ideology. A certain percentage of Lithuanians in Belarus, with their frank Russophobic views and territorial claims, make them the fifth column in the country. I have been writing for a long time that Lukashenko, trying to sit on two chairs, will crash to the floor. In politics, there are laws that should not be violated, because you are more expensive and cost.
      Many people think that cunning is a sign of Mind. Deep delusion.
      The trick is just a tool, a tool for tactical victories, but not strategic!
      Therefore, you should always see whether this tool is in the hands of a smart or stupid, limited person who does not see beyond his outskirts.
      The cunning in the hands of a limited person turns against himself, and no fools are sitting overseas. Retired CIA agent flashed yesterday: The coup in Ukraine, the CIA has been preparing for 20 years.
      1. smile
        smile 30 March 2014 14: 10
        +8
        Turkir
        You are absolutely right. Only now a coup in Ukraine has been preparing since 45. when it took under its wing the "Bloc of Captive Nations" created by the Nazis by the hands of Bandera - take an interest in this amusing organization, which actually raised the new Ukrainian elite in the perestroika times and the early nineties.

        By the way, there are very few Lithuanians in Belarus. But during the perestroika time, quite a lot of purebred Belarusians divorced, believing that the Belarusians have nothing to do with the Russians, but are a separate people - the Litvinians. And the Lithuanians, in general, have nothing to do with the Litvins, they simply stole the name from the ancient Belarusians. Created this nonsense the same power that created the tales of ancient Ukrainians with the same goals.
        And I don’t see something, but Butsk struggled strongly with this.
        It seems that he does not understand how dangerous it is, including for his own power personally.
      2. Mentor
        Mentor 30 March 2014 15: 37
        +4
        Well, first of all, 1000 people got into this whole catastrophe (incidentally, they didn’t say more experiences). Secondly, this infection did not go further than Minsk, and it cannot go, since the entire opposition is simply afraid to lean out beyond the Moscow Ring Road. And this whole tale about Litvinians attracts only a small part of young people, mainly in humanitarian universities, and quickly disappears from their consciousness when, by distribution, they call out to the province.
        PS By the way, my Balts friends sincerely rejoice that they live in Belarus. Especially after excursions to the homeland.
        1. smile
          smile 30 March 2014 16: 25
          +1
          Mentor
          I am glad that this "Lithuanian theory" has no prospects for you.
          And about the Baltic states - I confirm. My stepfather (Belarusian) has business in Grodno - there is no prospect in Lithuania. Lithuanians, who have the opportunity, amicably travel to Belarus to work and be treated. Especially to the dentists. And if we compare the total unemployment in Lithuania, where almost a quarter of the population (already 650-700 thousand out of 2 million 900 with something thousand of the total population), then in Belarus - a paradise. :)))
  5. Stinger
    Stinger 30 March 2014 07: 34
    +4
    Attractors always look to the side, one root is straight. And he sets the tone for horse racing. Either a lynx, or a gallop and does not allow to go into the spacing.
  6. waisson
    waisson 30 March 2014 07: 34
    +16
    It’s high time to get used to Old Man’s statements about our relations within the states of the former USSR — THIS IS AS A FAMILY.
    but his only enemy is the Americans and the EU
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 30 March 2014 08: 41
      +10
      I agree, father needs to be respected for preserving bits of socialism and adapting this system to new realities, BUT how much is he still going to maneuver? Father, is it time to decide whether you are with us? Now the world is being reformatted, even Latin Americans (Argentina, Ecuador, Nicaragua, Venezuela , Brazil) -ambiguously for us! But father, you are a man with iron eggs, forget about the EU-people --- ONLY TOGETHER !!!
      1. Irtysh
        Irtysh 30 March 2014 13: 04
        +9
        Yes, stop driving the wave.

        Belarus is always with Russia together. This is understood by Belarusians and Fatherland. All the moments that annoy you are elementary trading, which does not let the Russian oligarchs relax, and at the same time makes it possible to push the country's economy towards the next step. Regular politics, nothing more. Even though it’s partly, it looks annoying.
        1. lana044
          lana044 30 March 2014 15: 10
          -1
          They used to say that about Ukraine too. And where is this Ukraine? And it all started too small.
  7. Name
    Name 30 March 2014 07: 35
    +15
    Statements by Lukashenko after meeting with Turchinov cause me a slight bewilderment:For a long time, apparently, we had to meet in order to exchange views on the situation that is developing not only in Ukraine, but around us, to decide on our next steps, mutual relations of two states, two very close peoples. I think that as a result of today's talks we will find a certain common point of view. There are many of them, they have already been identified during this time. AND try to bring our positions closer on issues that, perhaps, due to lack of information today, do not find a proper understandingsee http://www.belta.by/ru/all_news/president/Lukashenko-i-Turchinov-vo-vremja-tr
    exchasovyx-peregovorov-dostigli-ponimanija-po-vsem-problemam_i_664373.html

    “In April, I will meet with Vladimir Putin in Minsk,” the Belarusian president recalled on the Ukrainian television program Schuster Live. “There will be mediation,” Lukashenko said, although he added: “I do not strive for this.”-so, as a matter of fact, no one asked to play this role ... It is not visible in the last meeting of the mediation mission.
    And of course from Turchinov a little bit:I am very grateful to Alexander Grigoryevich for the warmth and frankness of our conversation. The position of the President of Belarus, the Republic of Belarus itself, that there will never be aggression against Ukraine, including a third country, is very important for us-that this third country is probably understandable to everyone ... see http://www.belta.by/ru/all_news/president/Turchinov-dlja-Ukrainy-ochen-vazhno
    -oschutit-plecho-druzhestvennogo-belorusskogo-naroda_i_664369.html

    That's the swing, so the swing ...
    1. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 30 March 2014 08: 04
      +13
      Quote: name
      That's the swing, so the swing ...

      “At least one has to talk to the devil, if only the worst does not happen,” Lukashenka said.

      It turns out some unprincipled position, which means you can meet with the Nazis, Bandera, the Nazis, they are nice to smile and build relationships. And do not say that Lukashenko met with Turchinov by agreement with Putin. Turchinov is absolutely not an independent figure, moreover, temporary, he does not solve anything and stupidly follows the instructions of Western curators and there is no sense in meeting him. In Ukraine, elections are coming soon and there are already candidates for the presidency, and Putin is probably already calculating options for the development of events, but Old Man once again rocked the swing in the wrong direction.
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 30 March 2014 08: 33
        +7
        It seems that those who talked to the bad memory of Adolf also thought about the need for such a "conversation with the devil". This is a dangerous business. And fraught with all sorts of different ...
      2. Irtysh
        Irtysh 30 March 2014 13: 10
        +5
        But father is one of those who, without undue politeness, can convey to the interlocutor the thought of the opponent. And in the press, he will pour all sorts of amenities for the ears of the electorate.

        The funny thing is, it seemed to me that if he, in Shuster’s program, declared that he would run for President of Ukraine, the rest would not have seemed to the other candidates. Even zapadentsy would vote. :)
      3. lana044
        lana044 30 March 2014 14: 43
        +4
        Apparently the old man fulfills silver coins. Yes, and trades with Satan selling Russia. And here, many say that he is cunning, curcule, but still good. Awesome definitions for the head of state! I am sure that GDP understands who it is dealing with. In general, such a feeling, Old Man will soon pass the point of no return. That is, the number of nasty things committed towards Russia will outweigh the critical mass, and it will automatically be on the other side.
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 30 March 2014 08: 18
      +14
      Quote: name
      That's the swing, so the swing ...


      And I have the impression that Father agreed with VVP to "talk" with Turchinov. Well, it will not be the same to meet! And who told you that everything was laid out for the press in full? And what did they say at dinner? And "for coffee?" And so - But father talked BEFORE meeting with VVP. Then he will tell about what the "high contracting parties" have agreed on.
      1. Name
        Name 30 March 2014 08: 30
        +8
        Quote: Egoza
        And I have the impression that Father agreed with VVP "to talk

        I think this is unlikely, for this phrase from Lukashenko (I repeat):... the relationship between the two states, two very close peoples ...where did the third Great people, is it not an overly complicated "game" when playing with the UNLIGITIMATE HEAD of Ukraine (Russia thinks so). And in conclusion: The Acting President of Ukraine emphasized the importance of strengthening relations between the Belarusian and Ukrainian peoples.
        see http://www.belta.by/ru/all_news/president/Lukashenko-i-Turchinov-vo-vremja-tr
        exchasovyx-peregovorov-dostigli-ponimanija-po-vsem-problemam_i_664373.html

        So sorry Elena, I do not agree with you. hi
        1. dmitriygorshkov
          dmitriygorshkov 30 March 2014 11: 17
          +1
          I don’t understand what you did not agree with.
          And in the first and second sentences, it was about PEOPLES, not about politics, not about international priorities.
          They had a fight, why should they talk about Russia on camera?
          1. Name
            Name 30 March 2014 12: 03
            +1
            Quote: dmitriygorshkov
            I don’t understand what you did not agree with.

            Follow the links, if you wish, read hi
            http://www.belta.by/ru/all_news/president/Lukashenko-i-Turchinov-vo-vremja-trexc
            hasovyx-peregovorov-dostigli-ponimanija-po-vsem-problemam_i_664373.html

            http://www.belta.by/ru/all_news/president/Turchinov-dlja-Ukrainy-ochen-vazhno-os
            chutit-plecho-druzhestvennogo-belorusskogo-naroda_i_664369.html
          2. Stanislas
            Stanislas 30 March 2014 12: 07
            +3
            Quote: dmitriygorshkov
            why should they talk about Russia on camera?
            That's all right. And even without the AHL camera, it is more convenient and correct to speak with Turchinov not as an "authorized representative of the VVP" (which he is not), but as the leader of the people of Belarus. There is no need for him at such a meeting to grovel for the "third Great people", throw pearls in front of this boar.
          3. lana044
            lana044 30 March 2014 15: 22
            +3
            Whatever a cabal, and on camera, the head of state should speak like the head of state! And not as a petty extortionist and provocateur ..
        2. vlum
          vlum 30 March 2014 11: 31
          +2
          Only blah blah blah on the part of Turchinov, but some kind of initiative. And it turns out that privately, without a microphone in the Rada, Turchinov is still trying to torture political attempts (precisely in such a spelling). This is despite the fact that the ambassador of Ukraine in Minsk is currently demonstratively absent.

          A polite mine in response from Lukashenka ... What did he specifically say to him, except that "guys, let's live together"?

          By the way, acting Foreign Minister of Ukraine sought to meet with Lavrov, caught him, intercepted in the corridors - well, intercepted, but in the newspapers about this info. So what if they didn’t send him diplomatically this time ?!
          There were no publicly visible actions from this meeting. Or maybe he personally handed some kind of letter, document or something else? After all, it was already clear that Lavrov would not talk with him about specific conversations.
      2. Anatole Klim
        Anatole Klim 30 March 2014 08: 30
        +5
        Quote: Egoza
        Then he will tell about what the "high contracting parties" have agreed on.

        Well, what can I agree with Turchinov ??? It is necessary to negotiate with Obama or Merkel, a couple of months after the elections in Ukraine, we will see Turchinov with a stupid mug looking out from behind some Poroshenko.
        1. lana044
          lana044 30 March 2014 14: 55
          +4
          That's it! There is nothing to negotiate with Turchinov. He is nobody! But didn’t the Old Man understand that with this meeting he added political points to Turchinov, at the same time losing them himself. Apparently Obama and Merkel have something to put pressure on him, since he accepts this freak. All this is disgusting.
      3. Day 11
        Day 11 30 March 2014 08: 59
        +6
        Most likely you are right Helen (EGOSA). But father conducts a tricky policy, but somewhere deep down he dreams of USSR-2. The pastor cannot directly offer to share the GDP, but through Father But quite
      4. svp67
        svp67 30 March 2014 12: 05
        +4
        Quote: Egoza
        And I have the impression that Father agreed with VVP to "talk" with Turchinov. Well, it will not be the same to meet!

        Bravo Ma'am - absolutely to the point ...
        1. lana044
          lana044 30 March 2014 15: 16
          0
          Well! Now they are holding the dad for some kind of Putin’s mongrel ... ((((Well, I don’t believe it! The director of this meeting is overseas. And this is not Obama. Would you know what they are holding the dad for?
    3. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 30 March 2014 08: 28
      +5
      Such a swing has already swung one. And with him and his whole country. Although, what do I understand in "big politician"?
      1. family tree
        family tree 30 March 2014 08: 46
        +7
        Ukraine stops military cooperation with Russia, and right there, Old Man, pledges with Turchinov. what I think that I have a feeling that we will soon see the most impudent and shortest scheme to circumvent the ban on cooperation repeat To observe innocence and acquire capital laughing
        1. wax
          wax 30 March 2014 23: 12
          +1
          Russia will build customs restrictions on the border with Ukraine so that EU goods under the guise of Ukrainian goods do not go duty-free to Russia. But these goods can go to the TS (i.e., to Russia) through Belarus. Lukashenko smelled the benefits and went to sniff it close.
    4. A TYPE
      A TYPE 30 March 2014 09: 18
      +6
      All would be fine if it were not about the Baptist-Komsomol filth.
      1. dmitriygorshkov
        dmitriygorshkov 30 March 2014 11: 21
        +1
        Quote: TYPE
        All would be fine if it were not about the Baptist-Komsomol filth.

        Well, while there is no other scum, but something needs to be seen right now!
    5. kare
      kare 30 March 2014 09: 23
      +2
      Lukashenko all this time looked like a great and cunning politician
      It was easy when a block like Russia was behind you.
      For me, an open enemy in the person of politicians of Ukraine is better than such an ally in the person of Lukashenko
      The collective farm will remain a collective farm, no matter what clothes he is dressed in
      1. Irtysh
        Irtysh 30 March 2014 13: 26
        +6
        This collective farmer managed not to ruin his enterprises, to prevent the revelry of the oligarchy, to keep the country in relative order with complete blockade by the West, and to provide the people with a not-so-bad life in relation to other European countries.

        Not so simple.
    6. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 30 March 2014 09: 59
      +9
      Quote: name
      That's the swing, so the swing ...

      What kind of swing? The West does not give pennies, elections in May, it is necessary to survive until May, Putin will not contact them and life goes on. No matter how you twist the Ukrainians, the fraternal people, even though Western puppeteers have conducted serious political information there. And Russia needed to pay a little more attention to Ukraine, what is going on there, in my opinion, this is more important than Syria. The elections will be held, it will be necessary to establish relations, Ukraine will not fly to the United States or Germany. We need to think about the future, but what happened, it has already happened, now is the time to fix it all. No need to escalate hysteria, you need to understand that anti-Ukrainian statements work in the hands of our enemies, separate our peoples even more, which does not make us stronger.
    7. Evgenij.
      Evgenij. 30 March 2014 10: 05
      +1
      Old Man, spit in his face
    8. Grenader
      Grenader 30 March 2014 11: 23
      +2
      "For Ukraine, it is important to feel the shoulder" - it is important for them to feel the European yy in their hike during the campaign.
    9. Turkir
      Turkir 30 March 2014 12: 17
      +6
      I have no perplexities, there is alarm.
      Lukashenko understands that talking to Turchinov, he is talking to the United States. Therefore, he wants to show his neutrality and democracy.
      Therefore, a demonstration in support of Ukraine was allowed.

      But father does not understand that for a long time, in the USA, he was destined for Yanukovych.
      Belarusians, ARE YOU READY?
    10. Belarus
      Belarus 30 March 2014 12: 21
      +5
      I don’t understand and don’t want to understand these average swings. I am Russian and in my passport, I voluntarily stamped that the nationality is RUSSIAN.
      And this is not a balanced policy, it's just creepwhich is based on the fact that he is king in the country and no one decree to him. And in the country nonetheless complete .op is going on. We only live due to export to Russia and EVERYTHING.
      As for the video: what did you have to promise such a Turchinov that he would shine like a copper basin and climb with his .m handshake to Lukashenko?
      And what Lukashenka said in the "Shusterlive" program: ....... the troops had to fight and not cowardly leave the Crimea, they had to defend their land .....
      Decide what it means for yourself, but I have already decided for myself.

      Russians do you know why many in Belarus hate Russia, huh?
      Just because many believe that Putin supports Lukashenko. The people are angry with the president and there is a lot of resentment and hatred for him.
      1. Irtysh
        Irtysh 30 March 2014 13: 30
        +5
        Can you tell me which page of my Belarusian passport I can see my nationality? I only managed to find that I am a citizen of Belarus.
        1. Day 11
          Day 11 30 March 2014 13: 35
          +3
          Eh comrade under the nickname "Belarus". Why so pierce?
      2. Turkir
        Turkir 30 March 2014 13: 50
        +7
        Quote: Belarus
        Russians do you know why many in Belarus hate Russia, huh?

        Very strange logic, don’t you?
        Analysis.
        1. The people of Belarus are angry with the president (Lukashenko) ..
        That is Belarusians are not evil themselves, which is quite natural, but on their own power.
        2. Belarusians hate Putin. - This is your personal opinion. Not subject to discussion.
        3. Belarusians hate Russia. - Bah, the conclusion is similar to the schizophrenic's delirium. Belarusian people hate Russian ...
        If you, so love yourself, your people, where does the people of Russia, the Russian people? Then write DIRECTLY that you hate the peoples of Russia, and your hatred of Lukashenko is a maneuver to avert your eyes.
        If you have a claim to the LEADERSHIP of Russia, then do not write that you HATE Russia. Choose something ONE. And then you’ll get confused.
        Your thinking is like babble. It could be treated condescendingly if not for one BUT!
        And who gave you the right to speak on behalf of the whole Belarusian people?
        I think that you yourself have appropriated this right.
        1. olegglin
          olegglin 30 March 2014 16: 08
          +1
          Do not feed the troll ...
  8. sssss018
    sssss018 30 March 2014 07: 40
    +1
    Grinds such nonsense, it’s not funny to yourself!
  9. diff
    diff 30 March 2014 07: 54
    +6
    The impression is made. that Lukashenko is trying to be friends with Russia and at the same time not offend the Belarusian fifth column. Ukraine fed Euro-advanced youngsters, now there is no Ukraine. Lukashenko is trying to keep the rabid dog - European consumption, on the chain. Well, if the doggie who will help break loose?
  10. Vladimir 70
    Vladimir 70 30 March 2014 07: 58
    +11
    Old Man is a good Chairman of the Collective Farm (in the best sense of the word) - to agree in one ministry to repair the road, in another - to build a school, in the third - to pick up the crop on time ... But in world geopolitics, among world wolves, of course not falls short. Yes, he has no material or human resources for this.
    1. Curculum
      Curculum 30 March 2014 08: 53
      +6
      Quote: Vladimir 70
      But in world geopolitics, among world wolves, of course, it falls short.

      By and large, he doesn't need it. It is enough that he copes well with his "collective farm". And let geopolitical "chess players" play geopolitical "chess" (Kasparov's table chess is not in the business).
      At the same time, Old Man is not pursuing a multi-vector policy, but a type of “own” one, in order to exclude accusations of “satelliteism”. But this "property" is agreed upon and negotiable, since the ending is always the same - WE ARE TOGETHER.
      1. Vladimir 70
        Vladimir 70 30 March 2014 08: 56
        +6
        By and large - he does not need it.
        I agree. Only I am a little confused that he sometimes spoils the "game" of the GDP.
        1. Curculum
          Curculum 30 March 2014 09: 18
          +3
          Quote: Vladimir 70
          Only I am a little confused that he sometimes spoils the "game" of the GDP.

          I would call it not “spoils”, but as if “slightly opposes”, which allows “to bring to light” the intentions of other players and push them to make mistakes. And this simplifies the "game" for VVP and Co.
          1. Vladimir 70
            Vladimir 70 30 March 2014 09: 27
            +3
            Curcul, perhaps you are right.
            1. Curculum
              Curculum 30 March 2014 09: 49
              +3
              Quote: Vladimir 70
              Curcul, perhaps you are right.

              The fact of the matter is that "possible". drinks
              1. Vladimir 70
                Vladimir 70 30 March 2014 11: 11
                +2
                The fact of the matter is that "possible".
                "Possibly" because if you make 100% conclusions you need to have real information, but I don't and can't have it drinks
        2. Irtysh
          Irtysh 30 March 2014 13: 34
          +3
          Putin through the fingers looks at the actions of Lukashenko. And that means - everything is agreed. IMHO.
    2. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov 30 March 2014 11: 29
      +5
      Quote: Vladimir 70
      Yes, he has no material or human resources for this.

      Father may not have the resources, but he is ready to fight for the state and the Belarusians! Fight with everyone, regardless of the "authorities".
      And it is worthy of respect.
    3. Turkir
      Turkir 30 March 2014 12: 19
      +2
      I just read your vision of the situation, wrote a comment just above yours.
      Absolutely agree with you.
  11. Ulairy
    Ulairy 30 March 2014 07: 58
    +14
    Yeah, yeah, "look, dad, the Rusiks are insidious and unpredictable. Give them a finger, they'll chop off the whole arm right up to the leg." Ugh, damn it. Now the quote:
    1. Chicot 1
      Chicot 1 30 March 2014 08: 44
      +4
      Isn’t the leader of the Russian people stubbornly aiming at Old Man Lukashenko? .. wink
      1. Irtysh
        Irtysh 30 March 2014 13: 37
        +6
        First, let him become the President of Ukraine :)
        Ukrainians, do you agree? :) Well, who are Poroshenko, that Tymoshenko with Yarosh ???? :))))
  12. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 30 March 2014 07: 58
    +3
    Well, the West came to its senses and the propaganda machine began to spin its flywheel again, scattering shit. Although it is worth recognizing that Lukashenko is still a bug.
  13. Makyr
    Makyr 30 March 2014 07: 59
    +8
    I listened to Lukashenko. In my opinion, often it is better for him to be silent than to speak. Having a complete dependence on the market and loans of Russia, an unstable economic platform, an extremely negative attitude of Europe and starting to spit in the direction of Russia, this, at least, speaks to Lukashenko’s poor mind.
    1. mountain
      mountain 30 March 2014 09: 38
      +5
      With the outskirts, everything is clear and treatment will be compulsory, but the "stepfather," allows himself too much and my will, would give him complete, well, completely independent independence and see how much of his influence would be enough without Russian money and the market.
  14. techmesh
    techmesh 30 March 2014 08: 12
    +4
    Liberalists in Belarus are giving in to the same thing and there are enough paid clicks.
    But people can’t be fooled. They understand that without Russia it will be very difficult to live, and the West can peck.
  15. kvnvolga2008
    kvnvolga2008 30 March 2014 08: 12
    +3
    Lukashenko is a wise man! And shit in Russia no less!
  16. Cossacks
    Cossacks 30 March 2014 08: 17
    +2
    Some kind of muddy article.
  17. 11111mail.ru
    11111mail.ru 30 March 2014 08: 22
    +2
    After this speech, it became clear that Belarus remains faithful to allied duty to Russia and she doesn’t intend to repeat her own mistakes of 2008. Author Alexey Polozov

    Do not hen Alexander Grigoryevich to sleep. He has his own thoughts on what and when to voice. The most the main thing is stated.
  18. saag
    saag 30 March 2014 08: 24
    +2
    multi-vector however, such a dad, such a dad :-)
  19. ShtyrliTTS
    ShtyrliTTS 30 March 2014 08: 41
    -16%
    [b] significant problems for Russian television channels. Most of them are broadcast with significant bills / b] - why is it surprising that Vova has his bills, Sasha has his own, what are the problems? I didn’t know about the RPTS party, but we did have a party). In general, you can outstrip Smolensk (in the light of recent events), it used to be ours)
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 30 March 2014 09: 21
      +5
      Quote: Shtyrli TC
      [b] significant problems for Russian television channels. Most of them are broadcast with significant bills / b] - why is it surprising that Vova has his bills, Sasha has his own, what are the problems? I didn’t know about the RPTS party, but we did have a party). In general, you can outstrip Smolensk (in the light of recent events), it used to be ours)


      On your avatar there is an opposition flag and a coat of arms, so everything is very clear with you, but about "your" Smolensk you certainly turned it down.
      1. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 30 March 2014 09: 50
        +8
        Yes, this is another "pamyarkouny" that penetrated a normal site. Well, they don't sit on their "Charter97"! I do not pay attention to such smile
        1. ShtyrliTTS
          ShtyrliTTS April 2 2014 10: 18
          0
          I am the same pamyarkouns, yak and you. I don’t visit the charter, although there you can get information. Do you subscribe to "SB Belarus Today"?
      2. Irtysh
        Irtysh 30 March 2014 13: 41
        +3
        Well, there are 300 such people in Belarus. Where can we create a party with such mass character?

        They pretend that they are fulfilling grants and okay.
        1. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 30 March 2014 21: 14
          0
          Quote: Irtysh
          They pretend that they are fulfilling grants and okay.

          Currency for the country is mined.
        2. ShtyrliTTS
          ShtyrliTTS April 2 2014 10: 26
          0
          I, my brother, twist the steering wheel, I can compare life from France to the Urals. I haven’t received grants from anyone. There are a lot of people like me, but there are more like you. Read above.
      3. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 30 March 2014 21: 12
        0
        Quote: RUSS
        and about "your" Smolensk, of course you bent.

        Smolensk did change residence permits several times. THAT was in the Principality of Lithuania, then in the Principality of Moscow. As they say, you won’t throw words out of a song.
      4. ShtyrliTTS
        ShtyrliTTS April 2 2014 10: 10
        0
        You can consider it even the flag of Ecuador. For me it is ours, Belarusian. In our country, our citizens have thoroughly driven into the brain the idea that if you are not with Lukashenko, then you must be with Europai! Well, not idiocy ?!
    2. diff
      diff 30 March 2014 10: 05
      +5
      All sorts of Ukrainians. Sectors and tyazhnivboki and other scum also say that the territory of Ukraine extends right up to the Urals, but even your party does not believe this and clearly neighs over it. And we laugh at people like you. laughing
    3. Turkir
      Turkir 30 March 2014 14: 10
      +2
      It seems that the root of the word "shtyrlitz" is "pin", in Russian "steal" or steal.
      In the light of recent events, or more pompously (this word is confused with the word "pathos"), if you cast a retrospective look, right up to Warsaw, everything was also ours. But Smolensk has always been ours, I write this for the poor.
      This is to refresh your historical memory and cool your mind to the temperature of a Russian bayonet ..
      1. ShtyrliTTS
        ShtyrliTTS April 2 2014 10: 36
        0
        I propose to the Russian bayonet to cast a retrospective look at Wikipedia. Or raise your eyes to a couple of comments above.
        I want to note that the first comment, or rather the last line of it did not have the meaning in which it was interpreted. It's like a joke. Thank you all. I hope I did not offend anyone
  20. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 30 March 2014 08: 41
    +2
    Lukashenko, no matter what a serious politician would say about him, and as far as I understand, he is not able to foul, he always speaks openly and honestly, what he thinks, moreover, he always argues his position. It is naive to believe that Lukashenko is such an ideal, everyone can have errors and errors. But the main thing is that he is a sincere and honest person.
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 30 March 2014 09: 07
      +4
      As for sincerity, I would not be so straightforward to say so!
      1. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 30 March 2014 09: 54
        +2
        Quote: Den 11
        As for sincerity, I would not be so straightforward to say so!

        everyone has an opinion. I constantly look at all the information where there are speeches or interviews with Lukashenko, and my opinion is my opinion if someone sees his other right. In my opinion, it is Lukashenko who is today the best politician in the post-Soviet space. I can say for sure and confidently that in the case of Crimea in the place of Putin, he would have done the same. And here I can say even more confidently that in the place of Yanukovych I simply would not have allowed the latest events in Kiev and in general in Ukraine.
  21. sv68
    sv68 30 March 2014 08: 57
    +1
    YES NO COMRADE Lukashenko, choose one of the options for answering the question -You as the President of the Republic of Belarus do you support the return of the original Russian Crimea by Russia?
  22. scientist
    scientist 30 March 2014 08: 57
    +5
    Lukashenko traded openly with Russia for recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Now it will bargain for the Crimea. True, there is no need for anyone’s recognition, but I still want to swing the swing.
    The situation is similar in Kazakhstan, where the UK, the USA and the EU are doing their best to increase their influence on the political elite through their children. Suddenly there are many youth projects in Europe, with the sole purpose of psychological zombies and changing values ​​among the younger generation.
    It is clear that maintaining friendly relations with the CSTO countries that need custody and international support from Russia is quite easy and simple. But the effect of this is almost always negative for Russia itself, both politically and economically. Because it is precisely because of its proximity to Russia that the politics and economies of the CU and CSTO countries are subjected to the most powerful pressure of the West, this is the weak link that the entire power of NATO countries is now targeting.
    Therefore, first of all, you need to be friends with strong and powerful states such as China, India, and other BRICS and SCO countries. Countries with powerful developing economies are able to defend their own interests, which means that more important and stronger incentives can be found with them for mutually beneficial long-term friendly relations. These countries will never act on the orders of the West or "swing the swing for both yours and ours", which significantly reduces the risks for mutual investment and political speculation.
  23. tnship2
    tnship2 30 March 2014 09: 03
    +9
    The Belarusian people very well remember the European integrators bild: 1941-1945. Therefore, the Belarusian voice among the Slavic peoples is very important for Russia. In general, Belarusians are great. Good neighbors and how all hard workers live their minds. So keep the brothers!
    1. vitvit123
      vitvit123 30 March 2014 11: 08
      +4
      - they live by their own mind - the people always live by the mind of the one who controls these people.
  24. Deadmen
    Deadmen 30 March 2014 09: 06
    +2
    .... The mass consciousness demonstrates some inexplicable mixture of the relapse of imperial thinking with a complex of infringed winner ”....

    This came up more to our American "colleagues"
  25. Hey
    Hey 30 March 2014 09: 07
    +4
    According to the law of the genre, Putin must not meet with Turchinov, but it is necessary to convey his view of the problem. Therefore, a faithful comrade-in-arms of one rank Lukashenko comes into action.
    A simple example from the past. When it was necessary to put pressure on "Kaliy" in Russia itself, it was impossible for some reasons, Belarus did it for Russia.
    So here everything is in a bunch and no need to worry. This is just one of Putin’s moves.
  26. sazhka4
    sazhka4 30 March 2014 09: 35
    +4
    Whatever one may say .. Belarus put on everyone and everything .. She was spreading rot from all sides. Now you have to listen to what the "dad" says. And he does not do nonsense .. He knows what this is about.
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 30 March 2014 09: 46
      +4
      Great Sasha! So he has no maneuver, no! He is completely and completely tied to Russia. I don’t understand why this show off is the only rational one is our cunning game.
  27. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 30 March 2014 09: 51
    +4
    Belarus remains faithful to its allied duty to Russia and does not intend to repeat its own mistakes of 2008

    The Old Man’s policy is the most intelligent and honest.
    And each person has mistakes and weaknesses, the old man has at least mistakes, and there are no weaknesses spawn.
    So Belarusians with taklm leader have nothing to fear.
    Out of respect for the Slav brothers, even Stalin achieved the membership of Belarus and Ukraine in the UN, as well as all normal independent states.

    In Kiev, everyone forgot and only a little, but normal people live in Minsk, more precisely, people live in Minsk more normally than many, many people.
    1. scientist
      scientist 30 March 2014 10: 19
      +5
      Quote: Sergey S.
      The Old Man’s policy is the most intelligent and honest.

      This is if you do not take into account that he is more defending the interests of his friends, Belarusian oligarchs such as Yuri Chizh, Anatoly Ternavsky, Vladimir Peftiev, who have now become restricted to travel abroad, and their accounts in Western banks are under serious threat. Although the latter two have their main business connected with Russia. But for any military analyst, Peftiev's company Beltechexport is especially remarkable, which, in pursuit of contracts, uses the international connections of the KGB of Belarus to give bribes, and for those who do not take to fabricate criminal cases. It is especially interesting to observe the friendship between Peftiev and the example-minister of Kazakhstan S. Akhmetov. Unfortunately, this friendship, built on corruption schemes, causes serious damage to the defense capability of both Kazakhstan and Belarus itself.
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 30 March 2014 10: 24
        +2
        Well, you obviously know more on this subject than we, the lehtorat! Be careful on the sites. There are different people.
      2. Irtysh
        Irtysh 30 March 2014 13: 46
        +4
        Strange are these Belarusian oligarchs, don’t you? There are no villas in the Canaries, they don’t sail on yachts in Monaco, they don’t curry out in Courchevel ...

        Maybe these are not origarchs, but simply highly paid top managers?
        1. Turkir
          Turkir 30 March 2014 14: 19
          +2
          You know better.
          I personally do not know my oligarchs, even by last name. Especially in Belarus ..
          Can you clarify this vague topic for us?
          1. Irtysh
            Irtysh 30 March 2014 14: 51
            +3
            Our "oligarchs" are not allowed into "decent" houses :) They do not have enough money for tolley, or they didn’t make a face.

            I don’t know if it was thoughtlessly, it was so conceived, but the whole national elite of the Republic of Belarus is not allowed to travel abroad. And this is a huge benefit for the country. There is no such thoughtless export of finances from the country. So they are forced to equip our swamp, otherwise they will sit down.

            Here from this, and my conclusion is that these are not oligarchs, but top managers. Good or bad, but just governing.
      3. Sergey S.
        Sergey S. 30 March 2014 15: 54
        +4
        And where Old Man from capitalism to disappear.
        He maneuvers as he can.
        Business, damn it, develops, but with control and on a leash.
        And without pennies, what is Belarus going to manage.

        But if the Kibalchish boys come, I’m sure the Old Man will be the first to raise the red banners.

        By the way, the banner of the BSSR and now over Belarus!
    2. vitvit123
      vitvit123 30 March 2014 11: 05
      +3
      Politics "Batka" is the same as everyone else's !!!
      The word "Old Man" - deliberately, in due time, launched into PR !!! - so that Russia always has "Nebatka" !!!
      1. Sergey S.
        Sergey S. 31 March 2014 05: 10
        0
        Today then V.V. Putin is a very respectful combination of letters.
        I think even Old Man is jealous. And he thinks how to return Vilno is as simple as Crimea.
  28. combat66
    combat66 30 March 2014 09: 55
    +3
    The behavior of the Ukrainian authorities and the Ukrainian military disappointed the President of Belarus. Alexander Lukashenko stated this in an interview with Savik Shuster on the Shuster Live program.
    Read more: http://news.tut.by/politics/392857.html

    At the same time, the President of Belarus said, "by their own actions, the current leadership of Ukraine has recognized that this is not their territory." "Why did they leave? Why did they not fight, if this is your land? In a nightmare I can imagine that this could happen in Belarus ... And if our military sat like mice under a broom at their bases (this, of course, is difficult to imagine !),
    I would go to fight alone. The people chose me for this, "he said indignantly.
    Read more: http://news.tut.by/politics/392857.html

    As in that joke about the dog: "Master, I go nuts myself!" sad
    Well, sometimes it brings us not childishly! I’m even afraid to criticize, otherwise the wick will be inserted into the zsu. sad
    1. scientist
      scientist 30 March 2014 10: 27
      +6
      Quote: combat66
      brings us sometimes not childishly

      He looked and just speechless. A dumb attempt to justify their own cynicism with completely inappropriate discussions on the topic of de facto and deuro, and even actually an open provocation of Russia and Ukraine to the start of hostilities! My friends don’t do that.
      1. Stanislas
        Stanislas 30 March 2014 12: 25
        +2
        Quote: scientist
        provocation of Russia and Ukraine at the beginning of hostilities
        On the contrary, he directly tells the idiots that they have ALREADY recognized by their actions that this is not their territory. What are the "fighting"? The train left. At the same time he showed that Belarus does not have foreign territories.
    2. Turkir
      Turkir 30 March 2014 14: 27
      +4
      Thank. Plus to you for very interesting information.
      Please write more often about the political climate in Belarus.

      How brave he is.
      Why, he says, you didn’t shed brotherly blood.
      But father, would you spill it?
      Shed, he says, a glass of red wine on a white tablecloth of the world.
      And wash the tablecloth, who will?
  29. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 30 March 2014 09: 56
    +2
    It is interesting which of them first expressed a desire to meet. If Turchinov, this is one thing, if Lukashenko is a completely different matter. Turchinov is everywhere looking for support, allies, it is clear that he wants to get help from the father, he expresses the hope that the third party will not be able to attack to Ukraine from Belarus. And if Lukashenko, then this is most likely intelligence from the customs union.
  30. Lev
    Lev 30 March 2014 09: 56
    +7
    I tried to add a comment to Klitschko ... It is useless ... Maybe it will reach him here ... The brains have not yet been knocked out !!!
    You yourself (Klitschko) when you last lived in Ukraine! I am writing specifically in Russian. I don’t know Ukrainian (I’ve just started my job, wife Khokhlushka). Ukrainians (!!!), as you like best. I do not care if I am, or I am a Nazi face. These are your subtleties. If Russia is so bad ... What are you doing here? Go to Europe, men marry Germans, daughters on the Paris panel, well, wives, let them wash the toilets in Lisbon! You want this ... Moderators will not let you say it like a human being. The flag is in your hands ...
  31. alekc73
    alekc73 30 March 2014 10: 06
    +7
    The wagging of Belarus and Kazakhstan is quite understandable. If Russia becomes "wet" - stay aside. This once again confirms that we have only two allies - the army and the navy.
    1. scientist
      scientist 30 March 2014 18: 06
      +1
      Quote: alekc73
      There are only two allies, the army and the navy.

      I agree. But do not forget that one in the field is not a warrior! Therefore, friends need to choose the right ones, and not those who are used to hiding behind their backs, and keep a knife behind their bosoms.
  32. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 30 March 2014 10: 06
    +8
    When the AHL "asks" the Russian military from its territory, then it will be necessary to hiss at it. And this will not happen as long as sober politicians are in power, who understand what is the difference between the West and the East. That is why different songs about the swing, I said I didn’t say, I didn’t admit it, I think they are far-fetched and not worth a damn! We must take into account that de jure we are still an independent state, but there are also such concepts as economics, contracts. there are different, and any head of state should take this into account. And politics is a dirty thing, no one comes out of it clean. Therefore, look at the real things, at the treaties that are being implemented at the level of the Military Department. And we have not forgotten history yet, unlike our southern neighbors. Therefore, you can sleep peacefully and less bother with various notions.
    This is my personal opinion, which may not coincide with other opinions, and for me there is only one enemy - there, beyond the Bug. Because I am Russian in Spirit, unlike some "zmagarou z razhymam" sold for green greens soldier
  33. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 30 March 2014 10: 32
    +4
    A fragmented Russia prays:
    Russia · Ukraine · Belarus,
    And it seems quite different
    Above us, this sky is blue ...

    And it seems like a different people
    And it seems our family is dying,
    And it seems that the enemies have long wanted
    So that we fall, so orphaned ...
  34. Victor1
    Victor1 30 March 2014 10: 35
    +5
    I noticed that the same processes are taking place in Belarus as in Ukraine for Russophobization of the population, it is not so pronounced, but it is.
    at the moment, it is often met figuratively saying "we are like this, and Russians are like that" in a bad sense and this is one of the first stages, it will be worse further, because there is also outright hatred of Russia and the Russians, even at this stage and in small circles.
    Events with the Crimea showed that not everything is so simple on the Belarusian side and this, one might say, is a kind of call for action.
    Ukraine has shown that in a relatively short period of time Russophobes can be nurtured and part of the population can be set up against Russia and the Russians, the same cannot be allowed in Belarus. It’s easy to separate, but it’s very difficult to connect. It is necessary on the contrary to unite and restore historical justice.
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 30 March 2014 10: 45
      +4
      It is bitter to admit to me that Belarus is the second Motherland (even the oath of allegiance to the Republic of Belarus), but it is. Read TUT.BY. Comments on the articles.
  35. propolsky
    propolsky 30 March 2014 10: 56
    +2
    All this is muddy, politics in Belarus is done by one person - the president, all the mongrels from the opposition parties do not have support for their policy, when they are ready for the buck to substitute all parts of the body for outside use, well, and Dumbadze is a journalist ready to whistle and singing praises to whom they say it was disgusting to see how he praised AG when he wanted to get to work on ONT, even his mom and dad were entangled by a proud Caucasian.
  36. Giant thought
    Giant thought 30 March 2014 10: 58
    +2
    The cunning Lukashenko, both ours and yours. But, as they say, for every sly .opu there is .u. with a screw. The future will show who is friend and who is foe.
  37. vitvit123
    vitvit123 30 March 2014 10: 59
    +4
    Quote: platitsyn70
    It’s not for nothing that the Old Man has the glory of the most cunning CIS politician.

    It always causes an analogy with a part-time (body) woman ...
  38. VeteranS
    VeteranS 30 March 2014 11: 01
    +2
    I would not draw far-reaching conclusions from this meeting ... Old Man’s road to the West was definitely ordered forever, so his politeness with Mr. Turchinov is nothing more than diplomatic intelligence.
  39. pliev78
    pliev78 30 March 2014 11: 04
    +4
    After visiting Shuster's show, he stopped being a "dad" for me, became another prostitute.
  40. aepocmam
    aepocmam 30 March 2014 11: 06
    +4
    Old man is crap.
  41. vitvit123
    vitvit123 30 March 2014 11: 32
    +5
    Lukashenka always has one problem - to retain power !!! So he dances between Russia and the West, all the time !!! If it were not for Russia (weapons, loans, oil, gas, etc.) Belarus would not exist for a long time, as it never has! I'm not against Belarus - my mother-in-law is from there !!! But Belarus cannot be a strong country, because can really produce only agricultural products ..., MAZ, Belaz - again, our resources, customs of other countries, etc., and its "bunnies" - for the whole world - it's paper !!! Not a single outlet to the sea, you have to buy any plane (what maz ...) That's it, I don't want to write for a long time ... Lukashenka is a Dancer !!!
    Once again I say - I am not against any nationalities, but Belarus is just a country (territory) that emerged as a result of the work of the CIA and the great traitors on our part!
    Here he is, BATKA, BATKA - dear father !!!!!!!!! And that people live there better than ours? I was there !!! Actually even worse !!! BUT everyone shouts which is better !!! This makes no sense !!! Then why is Lukashenko so brilliant ??? If I didn’t allow a revolution to be made, I wrote at whose expense! I always ask myself the question - if Belarus joined us, would people there immediately become poorer to live? It seems to me not. Lukashenka is an ordinary person who loves power! And he tries to earn "points" in different ways !!!
  42. msd
    msd 30 March 2014 11: 32
    +3
    Quote: sibi
    If ours shoot at least once

    this will never happen, the East itself will squeeze these morons by the throat-patience is not unlimited ..
  43. Ross
    Ross 30 March 2014 11: 35
    +4
    Quote: platitsyn70
    It’s not for nothing that the Old Man has the glory of the most cunning CIS politician.

    As if to him this trick would not come out sideways.
    1. Belarus
      Belarus 30 March 2014 12: 23
      +2
      Here I am talking about this. Because it’s disgusting to listen to when Russia talks about raising gas prices, we immediately remember about the trenches and victims in the Second World War. And no one else remembers this from politicians only when they need it!
  44. Havoc
    Havoc 30 March 2014 11: 37
    +4
    Many probably forgot that Russia and Belarus are a union state, plus both states are part of the CU, it is one thing to conduct an independent policy in the economy, and it is another thing to act as a united front on foreign policy issues. If the CU does not pursue a coordinated foreign policy, this union is worthless, one can easily play on the contradictions within the CU.
  45. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 30 March 2014 11: 42
    +2
    The Russian "elite" is circling around Belarus like a flock of hungry sharks, if you give slack they will tear Belarus to shreds instantly. Here Old Man demonstrates a certain independence that would not be forgotten at all. Well, plus the constant urge to spin out what kind of gesheft for our own, which is undoubtedly commendable. The old man works for the Belarusians instead of nuclear weapons, it's a pity they don't appreciate it. Remember the presidency of Medvedev, as everyone wrote - we are changing Medvedev to the Old Man, we will also pay extra, people's memory is short.
  46. vitvit123
    vitvit123 30 March 2014 11: 44
    +3
    What is the Union State with Belarus? For Lukashenko, this is a way to influence the consciousness of ordinary Russians! How can they say so Belarusians are striving for us, etc. and we can’t help them ... Something in Lukashenko’s actions is not even a hint of this state !!!
  47. shelva
    shelva 30 March 2014 12: 54
    0
    Quote: sibi
    East of Ukraine is a delicate matter.
    If ours shoot at least once, the whole world will send its rabid dogs, which so far are just yapping, to Russia.

    While we are afraid to shoot first, the Russian population will be slaughtered there. How did this "wait" end in Kiev?
  48. Thomas
    Thomas 30 March 2014 12: 58
    +4
    Old Man is very easy to understand in this case: he did not directly participate in the current confrontation in Ukraine. In the neighbor’s yard is a sowing yard, and Old Man’s tractors are clogged with Belarusian tractors. It’s necessary to somehow advance.
    But if you look humanly, then, of course, - it is unpleasant.
  49. Oleg Prophetic
    Oleg Prophetic 30 March 2014 13: 17
    -2
    Old Man cunning best president would beat for all of Russia, Old Man in the Tsar
    1. wax
      wax 30 March 2014 23: 27
      0
      No, better not. Russia, especially the Union, is a completely different level. He is the same pragmatist of the moment as the leaders of not very large countries of the same Europe (Merkel, Cameron, Hollande, etc.), unlike strategists (leaders of the USA, China, Russia).
      1. Oleg Prophetic
        Oleg Prophetic 30 March 2014 23: 30
        +1
        In the ns in the north of Ukraine, the ego is considered to be a god, they require presidents
  50. parus2nik
    parus2nik 30 March 2014 13: 51
    +2
    Now would Russia and Belarus think about the further development and strengthening of the union state ..