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Vladimir Putin ordered to transfer to Ukraine the equipment and armament of units that did not side with the Russian Federation

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Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the Minister of Defense Sergei Shoigu to transfer to Kiev’s disposal weapons and military equipment that remained in the units located in the Crimea and who did not side with the Russian armed forces.






Today, Vladimir Putin met with senior officers of the country, at which their new positions and regular titles were announced. In addition, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu reported that the “organized withdrawal of units of the Ukrainian army who expressed a desire to continue serving in the Armed Forces” was completed in the Crimea, reports Interfax.


After that, the Supreme Commander of the Russian Federation ordered the transfer of weapons and military equipment of the ship’s crew and aviationwho remained in units that did not go over to the side of the Russian Federation, Ukraine.


Sergei Shoigu also reported that the ships, which remained at the disposal of the Crimea, "completed the change of state symbols." "Acts of desecration, disrespectful attitude to the state symbols of Ukraine is not allowed," - he added.


The high level of training of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation

The President of the Russian Federation also noted that the Russian military showed themselves in the best way on the peninsula. “The recent events in Crimea became such a serious exam. They demonstrated both the qualitatively new capabilities of our Armed Forces and the high morale of the personnel, ”he said.


The Supreme Commander thanked the Russian military stationed in the Crimea "for endurance and personal courage."


Vladimir Putin also stressed that, thanks to “clear and professional actions”, the servicemen managed to “avoid provocations and prevent bloodshed, provide conditions for a peaceful and free referendum.”


Modernization of the military structure of the Crimea

“Now we have to do serious work on the modernization of the military structure in the Crimea,” the Russian president concluded. According to him, it is necessary to complete the formation of the units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Ministry of Emergency Situations and the Federal Penitentiary Service of Russia, as well as the Federal Security Service, the Investigative Committee and the Federal Drug Control Service.


In addition, he announced his intention to revive the Black Sea Higher Naval School named after Nakhimov and create a Sevastopol Presidential Cadet School.


Experience of army professionals and law enforcement structures of Ukraine

Vladimir Putin also pointed out that it is necessary to make optimal use of the experience of the military, who served in the army and the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, and now switched to the side of Russia. At the same time, it is important to respect the decision of the security forces, who returned to the disposal of the Kiev authorities.


“The attitude towards them, towards their families should be extremely correct, as the traditions of military honor demand,” he explained.


Putin stressed that for newcomers to the ranks of the Russian army, "military ranks, years of service, diplomas of graduation from educational institutions will be maintained."


Money allowance

The Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Federation also ordered an increase in the monetary allowance and social status of servicemen who had gone over to Russia. Thus, soldiers and officers who decide to serve the Russian Federation will receive four times more than before.


"Today, about four times our monetary allowance in Russia exceeds the monetary allowance in Ukraine," the president explained.

Originator:
http://russian.rt.com/article/25697
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  1. Vi_RUS
    Vi_RUS 28 March 2014 20: 33
    +22
    To pass such laws as they are now in Ukraine, you must at least have your own Siberia.
    1. jjj
      jjj 28 March 2014 20: 40
      +26
      The President ordered the intelligence (SVR) and counterintelligence (FSB) of Russia to actively conduct proactive measures against the destructive actions of the West, including in Ukraine
      1. Ataman
        Ataman 28 March 2014 22: 50
        +13
        It is a pity, of course, that he ordered me to give, but we have a different caliber.
        1. poccinin
          poccinin 29 March 2014 00: 30
          +4
          Yes, in our own warehouses, there are still plenty of USSR weapons, just in case. There are so many AK assault rifles that you can arm the population of RUSSIA + children. And in some places there are also "MAXIM" machine guns and 3 lines.
        2. Old_kapitan
          Old_kapitan 29 March 2014 01: 22
          +17
          It is a pity, of course, that he ordered me to give, but we have a different caliber.
          Why are you sorry? I did everything right. First, he acted on honor. Well, no matter how cool, not trophies. Secondly, did you think that this rubbish would have to be disposed of? Do you need it? You and your own have nowhere to go.
        3. mamont5
          mamont5 29 March 2014 05: 46
          +1
          Quote: Ataman
          It’s a pity, of course, that he ordered me to give, but we have a different caliber

          Exactly. "His grenades are of the wrong system."
    2. de klermon
      de klermon 28 March 2014 20: 41
      +30
      Really even in scrap metal is not to pass? Though...
      It is of course correct that we give it back: the property is something like theirs (although it was all built for common money at the common factories of a single country), but there is one more circumstance: in 2 weeks of "exercises and mobilization" in Ukraine 5 tanks exploded and burned , one self-propelled gun exploded, an attack aircraft fell ... Comrade Supreme, can you hold on to this trash until they calm down there, otherwise everyone will be killed, and there are still no strangers to us ... Millions 25 people minimum ...
      1. Siberian19
        Siberian19 28 March 2014 21: 28
        +8
        disguise for relocation technology! good
        1. Sergey S.
          Sergey S. 28 March 2014 22: 27
          +7
          Everything is much simpler.
          Under contracts, we can have in various areas a different number of weapons.
          And now. so that there are powerful armed forces in Crimea. need merchandise to give up for scrap. and bring normal modern technology.

          But the fleet is not so.
          As I understand it, we will not give the boats to Ukraine.
          1. bootlegger
            bootlegger 28 March 2014 23: 26
            +2
            CFE seems to be suspended and there are no such restrictions?
            Apparently sawing this technique on metal is more expensive than simply giving it away. Yes, and more legally correct.
            1. wax
              wax 29 March 2014 00: 43
              +2
              We have suspended the implementation of obligations under the CFE Treaty. And the West has not ratified this Treaty at all. So no one remembers him.
          2. Alekseev
            Alekseev 28 March 2014 23: 30
            +2
            Quote: Sergey S.
            And now. so that there are powerful armed forces in Crimea. need merchandise to give up for scrap.

            Quote: Sergey S.
            As I understand it, we will not give the boats to Ukraine.

            We give back boats, and aviation, and tanks, and so on.
            This good has no real combat value, because the same tank (not to mention a modern aircraft) should not only be available, but also be combat ready, i.e. fully operational, equipped with fuel and lubricants, equipped, etc.
            Skillfully, you can bring this technique into a non-ready state for a few minutes. And the appearance of technology inside and out does not change at all. wink
            But the gesture of goodwill fellow and the sea of ​​squealing is cut off about robbery, violence, etc.
            By the way, there was information that the main engine and other systems were completely disabled by cement at the BDK. You hurried it up! laughing
            1. poccinin
              poccinin 29 March 2014 00: 33
              0
              Now let them yourself and repair.
            2. mamont5
              mamont5 29 March 2014 05: 49
              0
              Quote: Alekseev
              We give back boats, and aviation, and tanks, and so on.

              And here is how all this good will be exported. As far as I remember, most of it is simply not on the go.
            3. krpmlws
              krpmlws 29 March 2014 06: 20
              0
              Quote: Alekseev
              Quote: Sergey S.
              And now. so that there are powerful armed forces in Crimea. need merchandise to give up for scrap.

              Quote: Sergey S.
              As I understand it, we will not give the boats to Ukraine.

              We give back boats, and aviation, and tanks, and so on.
              This good has no real combat value, because the same tank (not to mention a modern aircraft) should not only be available, but also be combat ready, i.e. fully operational, equipped with fuel and lubricants, equipped, etc.
              Skillfully, you can bring this technique into a non-ready state for a few minutes. And the appearance of technology inside and out does not change at all. wink
              But the gesture of goodwill fellow and the sea of ​​squealing is cut off about robbery, violence, etc.
              By the way, there was information that the main engine and other systems were completely disabled by cement at the BDK. You hurried it up! laughing

              It is written in the article that we give back only those ships that did not raise the St. Andrew’s flag. Otherwise, it somehow wonders if the flag was raised and then returned? A ship is not a tank or armored personnel carrier, part of the state’s territory, and it’s not customary to give out the state’s territory to the left and to the right. The top Head probably knows better, but I wouldn’t give anything back, if it is not advisable to carry out repairs and modernization or to dispose of it, then let the equipment stand, it doesn’t take up much space.
          3. Klepa
            Klepa 29 March 2014 00: 17
            +1
            About scrap metal You are right, but you must admit that everything is not so simple. This is a preventive measure, another move in the chess game. And besides, we showed Ukraine and the West. that we do not need "handouts".
          4. Berkut-UA
            Berkut-UA 29 March 2014 11: 13
            0
            Submarine - Zaporozhye - a rusty trough standing 20 years at the pier.
            As well as a number of other boats built in the 70s. That is, more than 35 - 40 years ago.
            It’s best to give and propagate this step all over the world - as loudly as possible.

            But now I can say - according to Ukrainian media - they will say that Russia
            sent hordes of tanks and planes and the Odessa coast is blocked by a terrified Russian fleet ...
            And not a single channel or newspaper WILL TELL the truth,
            since there is NO freedom of speech in Ukraine!
      2. starhina01
        starhina01 28 March 2014 21: 40
        +5
        return their toys all the same, it is necessary otherwise to cry and roar lol they’ll run to sneak and scream at the top of their lungs that they are jumping, they aren’t my .... do they offend them? laughing
      3. Azzzwer
        Azzzwer 28 March 2014 21: 47
        +4
        Quote: de Klermon
        Comrade Supreme, he can hold on to this rubbish until they calm down there, otherwise everyone will be killed,
        laughing laughing laughing
      4. Duelist
        Duelist 28 March 2014 21: 58
        +4
        Quote: de Klermon
        Comrade Supreme, he can hold on to this rubbish until they calm down there, because after all, everyone will be killed, and there are still no strangers to us there ...

        A real SOLDIER will not offend a child. wink
      5. Stanislas
        Stanislas 29 March 2014 11: 51
        0
        Quote: de Klermon
        maybe hold on to this trash until they calm down there, otherwise all will be killed
        laughing If only the strikers were sharpened on small arms, they themselves would be so calmer.
    3. platitsyn70
      platitsyn70 28 March 2014 20: 46
      +9
      equipment, weapons and expired ammunition must be surrendered to Assad in Syria, and we will utilize the ammunition and help the Syrian people.
      1. thrower
        thrower 28 March 2014 20: 58
        +12
        No way, Syria is only new, they are really fighting there.
      2. Sergh
        Sergh 28 March 2014 21: 16
        +21
        Quote: de Klermon
        It’s certainly right that we give back: the property is kind of like

        I don’t know, really, no, but the Ukrainian Crimean soldier who transferred to the Russian army told on the radio. He says that 5-10 Russian passports are issued every day, after the oath, they live in a sanatorium, and most importantly, he was very surprised by the Russian army’s food, where they feed three times a day with a buffet, the choice is made from three dishes, like the first, second, etc. .. The special correspondent asks, and how they used to eat, explains that sometimes dry, and often from home, the wife collected in jars and teared into a bundle.

        He also said that in the former part (they freely walk around the city) they urgently carry out repairs and old furniture has already been thrown out and imported new beds, they will change the quality of cooking, the catering unit and other vital equipment. I am very surprised that the Russians in the army at such a high level, after the last service, will serve as happiness, because and the salary for them will be high not comparable with the past.
        Now, as it were, a short rehabilitation, a change of passports, an oath, the formation will be waiting for new equipment (well, maybe not all new). They said that about fifteen thousand people had crossed the military, and these are the numbers for the past week. In short, the emotions in the voice are very pleased and no complaints were observed.

        By the way, those who refused to go to Russia (Westerners), and they are about one and a half thousand + families, live separately, somewhere else, will soon be sent to the mainland in Ukraine.
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 28 March 2014 22: 18
          +16
          Quote: Sergh
          By the way, those who refused to go to Russia (Westerners), and they are about one and a half thousand + families, live separately, somewhere else, will soon be sent to the mainland in Ukraine.

          Yes, it will be an "ambush" for the "patriots" ...
          To begin with, the "political instructors" at the border take out the "soul".
          And upon arrival, "to the house, to the hut," the zhinka will understand where they got and what they "lost" in the Crimea, the hairs on the heads of the servicemen will diminish.
        2. Hey
          Hey 29 March 2014 09: 23
          0
          And at the same time, let them not forget that the return must be complete. And you have to sweat and puff. For twenty years, too many fools have been in the service. It will be hard, however.
    4. Grbear
      Grbear 28 March 2014 21: 02
      +8
      Respected Vi_RUS... I hope that when you said Siberia, you meant logging? Otherwise, I will not agree with you. hi
      1. Cynic
        Cynic 29 March 2014 08: 18
        0
        Quote: GrBear
        that when you say "Siberia" you mean logging?

        Respected Vi_RUS rather implied Copies of King Solomon .
    5. pensioner
      pensioner 28 March 2014 21: 47
      +2
      Humor and irony are as if understood. A little correction. This condition is necessary, but not sufficient ... But if at the same time all of western Ukraine were sent to Europe (forcibly or not, this is another question ...) ... Then ...
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 28 March 2014 22: 02
        +6
        Quote: retired
        Humor and irony are as if understood. A little correction. This condition is necessary, but not sufficient ... But if at the same time all of western Ukraine were sent to Europe (forcibly or not, this is another question ...) ... Then ...

        Hi, Yuri!
        I disagree.
        Not an inch of Russian land, poured with the blood of the soldiers of the Red Army and SMERSHA. My father from 1949 to 1953, while studying in Mogilev at a police school, lost more than one fellow student during the liquidation of caches. And the Great Patriotic War passed.
        Fuck them, not our land.
        Let them accept and contain those who gave cookies, but on the Maidan, hiding behind diplomatic immunity, chastal.
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 28 March 2014 22: 59
          +1
          ABOUT! Ilyich !! Good to see !! drinks
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          Not an inch of Russian land, poured with the blood of the soldiers of the Red Army and SMERSHA. My father from 1949 to 1953, while studying in Mogilev at a police school, lost more than one fellow student during the liquidation of caches. And the Great Patriotic War passed.
          Fuck them, not our land.

          So I did not speak for the earth !!! Living organisms, on foot, towards Europe, with the daily allowance ...
          Something like this ...
          In the year 90-91 (I don't remember exactly ...) I worked a couple of times in the Ivano-Frankivsk region. in kmndr ... Logging ... Who understands will understand. I remember: they explained to us: "You guys, let's do our logging more thoroughly. We still have to live without you (the USSR still existed ...). Yes ... By the way ... How much do we owe you? 100 thousand rubles?" so: we immediately give 35, 15 thousand - come before the New Year. And everything else, when you hand over the documentation. " A-fi-get! And this is in the USSR !!!
  2. Tarpon
    Tarpon 28 March 2014 20: 36
    +8
    Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the Minister of Defense Sergei Shoigu to transfer to Kiev’s disposal weapons and military equipment that remained in the units located in the Crimea and who did not side with the Russian armed forces.

    We had to at least wait with the transfer until the arrival of legitimate power in Ukraine.
    1. Vi_RUS
      Vi_RUS 28 March 2014 20: 39
      +5
      there’s nothing to give already, and if we don’t give it back, there will be so many snot as if we took a toy from a child
    2. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 28 March 2014 20: 39
      +4
      Well, I do not know ... Why did they pass it on? Did Ukraine transfer a lot of things to Russia from technology after 1991? Traded.
      1. voldmis
        voldmis 28 March 2014 20: 54
        +3
        Well, I do not know ... Why did they pass it on? Did Ukraine transfer a lot of things to Russia from technology after 1991? Traded.


        I am sure that this statement of the Supreme is more political. Well, they will give what they themselves endure ...)))
      2. thrower
        thrower 28 March 2014 20: 59
        +11
        I recall how Ukrainians cut strategic bombers - I would have killed for it.
      3. Mikros
        Mikros 28 March 2014 21: 34
        +2
        Well, they said, they will give back only the equipment that was in the units that remained with Ukraine. The rest is ours.
    3. old rocket man
      old rocket man 28 March 2014 21: 24
      +5
      Quote: Tarpon
      We had to at least wait with the transfer until the arrival of legitimate power in Ukraine.


      And who said that the transfer will be held as fast as the referendum? laughing
      This is not a quick matter: you need to bring everything to one place, take an inventory, draw up and sign transfer acts with the opposite side, for which there must be at least some kind of relationship (which is not)shorter from say to dothe distance is indefinite, as the path to communism laughing
  3. I do not care
    I do not care 28 March 2014 20: 36
    +7
    give there what
    army ruins long ago
  4. Des10
    Des10 28 March 2014 20: 36
    +1
    And it couldn’t be otherwise, Crimea returned.
  5. Afinogen
    Afinogen 28 March 2014 20: 37
    +9
    They will go broke on the repair of this equipment.
    1. mamont5
      mamont5 29 March 2014 05: 52
      0
      Quote: Athenogen
      They will go broke on the repair of this equipment.

      You think they will repair. For 20 years have not gathered, but now why would.
  6. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 28 March 2014 20: 37
    +2
    Well, of course it is right .. And so they humiliate the Ukrainian army and navy in full (they taught a good lesson ..) Although there’s nothing to take away .. Oh Ukraine .. I would say.!
  7. Gregazov
    Gregazov 28 March 2014 20: 38
    +5
    We do not need new floating and flying targets. We will not allow Ukrainians to sharply update military equipment, let them suffer further with their old stuff.
  8. svetlomor
    svetlomor 28 March 2014 20: 38
    +3
    Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the Minister of Defense Sergei Shoigu to transfer to Kiev’s disposal weapons and military equipment that remained in the units located in the Crimea and who did not side with the Russian armed forces.
    That's right, there is nothing to keep this trash, recycling will cost more, let them understand.
  9. novobranets
    novobranets 28 March 2014 20: 39
    +11
    Return of weapons and equipment, a gesture of the strong side. And also the podnachka- "Take your, no matter what rubbish." laughing
    1. Suhov
      Suhov 29 March 2014 00: 10
      +2
      Quote: novobranets
      The return of weapons and equipment, a gesture of strength.

      I agree.
      Besides.
      Apparently, there was an agreement.
      The Russian side promised those who want to continue serving in Ukraine:
      leave with weapons, the main thing is that there would be no fire.
      It’s as if there was no flask.
      Now we are fulfilling our part of the agreements.
      Thus, we provide the Ukrainian military the opportunity to:
      и face save hi
      и report to the commissioners. No.
  10. crambol
    crambol 28 March 2014 20: 39
    +4
    give Ukraine equipment and weapons


    On you, wretched, that I am worthless!
    They’ll sell this rubbish for scrap!
  11. Alll1
    Alll1 28 March 2014 20: 40
    +13
    They will write: "Putin was frightened by the invincible Ukrainian army and cowardly coaxes the valiant Banderlog (could not resist)" !!! laughing
  12. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov 28 March 2014 20: 40
    +8
    Well VVP said “to transfer the equipment and weapons of the units that did not go over to the side of the Russian Federation.” This is despite the fact that there are no such people left in the Crimea!
    1. jjj
      jjj 28 March 2014 20: 44
      +4
      Quote: serega.fedotov
      did not go over to the side of the Russian Federation

      I also drew attention to this passage. We will return the old tanks, armored personnel carriers, vehicles, all MiG-29s. There is no final decision on steamers yet
    2. huut
      huut 28 March 2014 21: 27
      +3
      Quote: serega.fedotov
      This despite the fact that in the Crimea there were no such

      I also thought that we would return the units, but it turned out to be larger:
      As a result of an inventory of military property of the Republic of Crimea, Russia is preparing to transfer to Ukraine about 350 units of armored and automotive military equipment.

      http://itar-tass.com/politika/1081770
  13. gfs84
    gfs84 28 March 2014 20: 42
    +7
    And then how ...
    So Hermanzi seemed to recover from lethargic sleep:

    German Minister of Economics and Energy Sigmar Gabriel said that pthere is no viable alternative to Russian gas... As the minister said in an interview with the German newspaper Neue Osnabruecker Zeitung, it is wrong to believe that Germany has any other serious suppliers of raw materials besides Russia. “Even purchases from the not yet built Nabucco gas pipeline from Asia do not provide any opportunity to improve the security of supplies. At the end of the pipeline is Iran, ”said Sigmar Gabriel. According to him, Russia is unlikely to stop supplies because of the crisis in Ukraine. “Even in the darkest times of the Cold War, Russia complied with the terms of the contracts,” the minister said.


    http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2441320
  14. ambiorix
    ambiorix 28 March 2014 20: 44
    +9
    I don’t even remember that the "occupiers" once gave military equipment to the "enemy". Russians don't even consider this scrap metal to be a technique.
    Well it is necessary to humiliate Svidomo junta so.
    1. sluganska
      sluganska 28 March 2014 23: 10
      +4
      still not feasible expenses-load, refuel, take out.
      the junta will have to stir up again with SMSs or ask for a loan in the EU :-)
  15. kirieeleyson
    kirieeleyson 28 March 2014 20: 45
    +7
    That's right, Kamaz returned, it is necessary to return military equipment. The question is whether it is banter over the Ukrainian army, or a real agreement at the request of the Ukrainian new authorities. Crimean equipment at least on the move, apparently. And Kamaz returned.
    MOSCOW, 28 Mar - Prime. OJSC KamAZ received back 43 vehicles that were seized in Ukraine, the largest Russian truck manufacturer said in a statement.
    A batch of KamAZ vehicles intended to be transported to Kazakhstan was seized on March 16 by armed men who introduced themselves as Maidan self-defense fighters. Since then, the trucks have been under the control of the "Right Sector". A source in the Ukrainian parliament told RIA Novosti that they are planned to be sent to the formation of a fleet of the National Guard.
    The Russian company appealed to the Ukrainian authorities with a request to help with the return of the seized cars, estimating their value in more than 100 million rubles.
    "(...) 43 cars that were seized by unknown people in Ukraine were handed over to their legal owners - the KAMAZ Trading Company in Chernigov," the company said on Friday.
    RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20140328/1001440300.html#ixzz2xHRzEq7V
  16. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 28 March 2014 20: 45
    +2
    Quote: serega.fedotov
    Well VVP said “to transfer the equipment and weapons of the units that did not go over to the side of the Russian Federation.” This is despite the fact that there are no such people left in the Crimea!

    And no one will take away .. Which is very unfortunate! The current government does not need an army .. as such, and the military-industrial complex too! They are preparing the ground for the entry of NATO troops (Poland) (they have been dreaming for 23 years) ..
    1. Stanislas
      Stanislas 29 March 2014 12: 07
      0
      Quote: MIKHAN
      They pave the way for the entry of NATO troops (Poland) (23 years already dreaming
      Immediately, a good job will appear: to clean the soldiers' boots, to keep brothels for them ... And most importantly - payment in hard currency. What else can you dream of? And, yes, maybe the oaths are destroyed by atomic weapons.
  17. Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx 28 March 2014 20: 47
    +2
    Correctly done, this technique requires exorbitant costs for repair, restoration and disposal.
  18. Chifka
    Chifka 28 March 2014 21: 01
    +4
    "Vladimir Putin ordered to transfer their equipment and weapons to Ukraine. The best Russian military experts have never been able to figure out how to use the captured stone axes, battle spears and wooden catapults" ...
  19. polite people
    polite people 28 March 2014 21: 02
    +1
    Ukraine is the main supplier of scrap metal in Europe. All of the many hectares filled with equipment irradiated with radiation after Chernobyl, they gladly sold to the whole world. And this one will do.
  20. uzer 13
    uzer 13 28 March 2014 21: 08
    +7
    [Vladimir Putin ordered the transfer to Ukraine of equipment and weapons of units that did not go over to the side of the Russian Federation]

    Bows and arrows do not need to be given, or else they will actually start shooting.
    1. schizophrenic
      schizophrenic 28 March 2014 21: 28
      +1
      They forgot about psychology, if they take the soldiers they will immediately say why they should fight, and if they don’t take it, then we will have to. It turns out cheese and they will tease Ukraine.
  21. konvalval
    konvalval 28 March 2014 21: 21
    +3
    GDP allowed SSC to hand over scrap metal to Ukraine for free.
  22. Siberian19
    Siberian19 28 March 2014 21: 23
    +3
    we don’t need someone else’s, but return ours how many billions of dollars there, 17 or 30 I’ve already got confused! wink
  23. visitor
    visitor 28 March 2014 21: 27
    +8
    The transfer of equipment is a beautiful move, ordinary Ukrainians are hollowing their heads about an invasion. But it does not start and does not begin, but here they also return the equipment.
  24. sv68
    sv68 28 March 2014 21: 32
    +5
    I propose on all military equipment that will be written off. HUMANITARIAN ASSISTANCE TO UKRAINE FROM RUSSIAN CRIMEA
  25. demoniac1666
    demoniac1666 28 March 2014 21: 35
    +6
    Putin is trolling the army as if it were a guest who infuriates everyone: first what was the threshold, and then the clothes! laughing But seriously, this is a move like what aggressors we are, if you return your junk. Since we do not recognize our actions as an act of aggression, military property cannot be considered as trophies of war. Something like this...
  26. Kornilovets
    Kornilovets 28 March 2014 21: 51
    +2
    That's right, all the junk in the scrap - raw materials, - to the junk workers !!!
  27. not main
    not main 28 March 2014 21: 55
    +5
    But you imagine the SU-27 or MiG-29 on the train. the platform! And they have 90% of the aircraft will not fly into the air! I would give a lot to look at this shame!
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 28 March 2014 22: 09
      +5
      Quote: non-primary
      But you imagine the SU-27 or MiG-29 on the train. platform

      And the inscription in chalk on the platform "We do not take from the beggars" laughing
    2. Berkut-UA
      Berkut-UA 29 March 2014 11: 37
      0
      Easily done.
      Take off your wings and tail
      and load everything on the platform.

      Well, in Kiev and Kharkov they can find people who can gather,
      if they have not run away
  28. scientist
    scientist 28 March 2014 22: 04
    +8
    Yeah! It seems that the trash is transmitted, but what an effect! All Bandera propaganda in a knockout. And many probably already have a panic. Indeed, according to their gangster logic, if Russia transfers weapons and equipment in the Crimea, then this is just how much you need to be brave and confident in your abilities! Right psychic attack.
  29. vedross
    vedross 28 March 2014 22: 04
    +6
    I think they give in vain the equipment. The current hostile government of Ukraine can turn it against Russia, especially tanks and cars. It would be better if they would really give it to Syria or send it for re-melting.
  30. Riperbahn
    Riperbahn 28 March 2014 22: 06
    +3
    The President of our country has committed a friendly act. We do not need too much. And in this regard, the president’s order is very revealing.
  31. fero
    fero 28 March 2014 22: 11
    +2
    Russia gives back equipment from the Crimea, Ukraine does not block water in return ... and everyone is happy wink we don’t have to waste anything (it’s how much money we also need to spend on repairs), plus there will be no urgent need to repel Kherson region.
  32. greshnik80
    greshnik80 28 March 2014 22: 14
    +1
    In vain we transmit. After all, it can be used at targets as targets. Our warheads will normally shoot.
    1. Riperbahn
      Riperbahn 28 March 2014 22: 29
      +1
      Put - I say again - a friendly act is worth a lot. We showed our friendliness.
  33. Leshka
    Leshka 28 March 2014 22: 17
    +1
    right for us scrap laughing
  34. kelevra
    kelevra 28 March 2014 22: 58
    0
    The situation is twofold. On the one hand, all the equipment from the former Ukrainian military units is a kind of trophies. And under international law, trophies are not given away. But, we were not at war, so Putin did the right thing, he decided to return some of the equipment to them, the one that the Ukrainian military did not give up to the very end. Moreover, in fact, we have no time to tinker with those tanks and armored personnel carriers that remained from the time of the Afghan war, it would be costly, and there’s no reason if you could save them need to use
  35. Shesternyack
    Shesternyack 28 March 2014 23: 19
    +4
    I just thought: if the transfer of equipment takes place, it will mean that the current Ukrainian authorities de facto recognize Russia’s right to own Crimea - the exchange of prisoners and trophies is possible only after the conflict ends ...
    As for the remelting: there are no places for recycling equipment in Crimea, which means that for this it is necessary either to lead the equipment by sea with the involvement of the Navy in the unusual task of delivering ferrous metal, or to drive it by train through the same Ukraine with fraught Natsik rallies and howling the media. In both cases, one trip is clearly not enough. That is, the melting down of equipment is long and expensive, the logistics will gobble up a lot. In other words: the game is not worth the candle. Let it be better to deal with the trash themselves. It is quite possible that the equipment at the border will remain due to the high cost of its transportation. And on TV they will say that to protect against the invasion of the "damned to her" lol
  36. Nasrat
    Nasrat 28 March 2014 23: 25
    +4
    I agree, it is necessary to give, but on the Maidan, and if they don’t take it, catch up in Lviv and still give it soldier
  37. KAPITANUS
    KAPITANUS 28 March 2014 23: 45
    0
    Those who Zaporizhstal captured and will melt everything.
  38. Urri
    Urri 29 March 2014 00: 08
    +4
    Yes, everything is normal, stable.
    For war, 3 things are needed: money, money, money.
    The Supreme of Russia (the commander-in-chief, in the sense), by his decision, added to Ukraine one more non-acidic item of expenses. My late dad, having forty years of experience as chief mechanic, said: "Remember, son, never a single major repair pays off. Never at all." And the restored equipment from the Crimea will hang on the balance sheet of the Ministry of Finance of Ukraine, giving the Ministry of Finance of Ukraine a strong reason to send away the p ... ka from Belbek Y. Mamchur, promoted to the post of Commander of the National Guard of Ukraine ("... buy modern technology (and cut off the non-acidic on this, he had 44 really flyable aircraft out of 4, but 2 dachas / in Crimea and Kiev /, and 2 apartments in the same place, fuel "z letakou" for 10 years where did it go, before still will not be found, etc.), which the National Guard under the command of this highly demagogic character can become really dangerous. Motivation - you have APCs and TANKS. What it is - no one in the Ministry of Finance will care.
  39. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 29 March 2014 00: 47
    0
    Guys give banderlogs their own scrap metal, that is, spears of bayonets, etc., the most dangerous for the whole world, needle complexes. Maidan can occur everywhere. I am an officer, this rocket can hit the plane with your relatives. These and Chernobyl will explode. They just stupid. This is our fault. They did not have to be allowed to give birth.
  40. Cristall
    Cristall 29 March 2014 01: 21
    0
    I'm only interested in the fleet. The equipment is all a bit old. Well, maybe there is still sense in aviation there. But as Odessa, the fleet interests me more.
    He wrote for a long time and insisted on such a step.
    And you all-trophy exchanges ... played a war game .. mock at the wrong time.
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 29 March 2014 08: 26
      0
      Quote: Cristall
      The equipment is all a bit old.

      Still say that the ships are new ?!
      A ship is a serious matter, even one hundred years old at lunch! Raised St. Andrew’s flag, this is not just surroundings, everything is much more serious.
      No matter how overland firewood is broken here.
  41. Angro Magno
    Angro Magno 29 March 2014 01: 52
    0
    Let them dispose of it themselves. We have no extra money.
  42. Aleksandr89
    Aleksandr89 29 March 2014 02: 43
    0
    Well here we laugh at our neighbors. And if NATO gives Ukraine its trash. For the outbreak of war, these weapons will be enough. It is necessary to get ahead of NaTo, then there will be no problems at all. Ukraine will not fight, not with old, not new weapons. drinks hi
  43. Zomanus
    Zomanus 29 March 2014 03: 25
    0
    And that’s all right. We don’t have anything to mock. To tidy up, so complete. After all, this stuff should be serviced, repaired, and more. Do we need it? We need to load our factories as much as possible in order to bring the Crimean infrastructure in proper condition and saturate with modern technology. And then, I looked at the radius of the Bastion .... not much, then we need a large number of ships there. Rather, we need detection and guidance stations.
  44. siberko
    siberko 29 March 2014 04: 18
    0
    give this junk, just first "the trunks are bent" smile
  45. erix-xnumx
    erix-xnumx 29 March 2014 05: 44
    0
    Carry out your scrap yourself.
  46. sergerz
    sergerz 29 March 2014 08: 22
    0
    That's right. It is necessary to respect the honor of the military, including the Ukrainian. Do not put them on their knees, do not rot their relatives. From this they themselves will reach us next time. And he is not far off. And everyone else will be pulled. We wait. And thank God we have similar techniques. Only in good condition.
  47. Gagarin
    Gagarin 29 March 2014 10: 58
    +2
    GDP did the right thing:

    1. Diplomatic gesture.
    2. Get rid of disposal.
    3. The headache of the junta - the costs, where to go and how to take out all this trash ?!

    Ain't a genius !?
  48. Cristall
    Cristall 29 March 2014 15: 10
    0
    moreover, in a general mess, it will be a difficult exercise — but psychologically it will not be a stone of contention.
  49. Captain45
    Captain45 29 March 2014 19: 44
    0
    Quote: kirieeleyson
    That's right, Kamaz returned, it is necessary to return military equipment. The question is whether it is banter over the Ukrainian army, or a real agreement at the request of the Ukrainian new authorities. Crimean equipment at least on the move, apparently. And Kamaz returned.
    MOSCOW, 28 Mar - Prime. OJSC KamAZ received back 43 vehicles that were seized in Ukraine, the largest Russian truck manufacturer said in a statement.
    A batch of KamAZ vehicles intended to be transported to Kazakhstan was seized on March 16 by armed men who introduced themselves as Maidan self-defense fighters. Since then, the trucks have been under the control of the "Right Sector". A source in the Ukrainian parliament told RIA Novosti that they are planned to be sent to the formation of a fleet of the National Guard.
    The Russian company appealed to the Ukrainian authorities with a request to help with the return of the seized cars, estimating their value in more than 100 million rubles.
    "(...) 43 cars that were seized by unknown people in Ukraine were handed over to their legal owners - the KAMAZ Trading Company in Chernigov," the company said on Friday.
    RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20140328/1001440300.html#ixzz2xHRzEq7V

    One thing is interesting to me - "KamAZs" are made in Naberezhnye Chelny, Tatarstan, they were driven to Kazakhstan. How did they end up in Chernigov in Ukraine. From the Volga across the Dnieper and back to the Ural River. Isn't a mad dog a hook for seven miles? then with these KamAZs. recourse