Crimea Novorossiysk is not a competitor

Russian Defense Minister Army General Sergei Shoigu on Tuesday checked the construction of the Novorossiysk Naval Base of the Black Sea fleet (Black Sea Fleet).

The federal target program (FTP) of creating a base system for the Black Sea Fleet on the territory of the Russian Federation for the period 2005 – 2020 was planned to be implemented in two stages. At the first - before 2011 of the year - to expand the Novorossiysk naval base in Tsemessky bay in the water area of ​​Geoport.

The government decided to jointly deploy scientific and military ships in Geoport in December 1992. But 22, the builders trampled on the spot. Our newspaper wrote about this more than six years ago (“Novorossiysk does not accept”, “NVO”, 14.09.07). Therefore, the reunification of the Crimea with Russia was a real gift for Russian sailors, now they do not have to wrestle with where to keep warships. Nevertheless, it is too late to abandon the expansion of the Novorossiysk base, which had a rear status in the Soviet Navy, since the main work on the Federal Program has already been completed.

At the second stage of the implementation of the federal target program, it was planned to build a second base south of Novorossiysk - in Gelendzhik or Tuapse. But the second stage, apparently, was forgotten, and all the forces were thrown into Novorossiysk. Last year, facilities were commissioned that allow new ships and submarines to be received. The life support system was reconstructed. Construction work was scheduled for completion in 2016.

Shoigu heard the command of the Southern Military District and the leadership of Spetsstroy on the implementation of the instructions given to them during the trip in May 2013 of the year, and on the reconstruction and construction of the infrastructure of the Vityazevo airport. “Thanks to the set momentum, we managed to eliminate the lag in the construction of a number of naval base facilities in Novorossiysk,” noted Shoigu and set the task “to maintain the set pace of work.” The Minister of Defense demanded to complete the construction of the mooring front and the Western pier ahead of schedule in 2015, the press service of the military reported to ITAR-TASS.

Comments

[omsbon]

I hope that we have enough mind and common sense, not to quit what we started, but to rationally use Crimea and Novorossiysk!

[lelikas]

As life shows - the more bases, the calmer the dream and the more friends.

[jjj]

Two full bases are better than one base

[Riperbahn]

The content is also spent more. The budget is not rubber. So as it was rear in the USSR, it will remain so.

[123dv]

There will be no excess.
I don’t remember that there were many berths.
Infrastructure development is an important foundation for the future.

[chunga-changa]

There used to be a base in Poti. Novorossiysk can be considered as its replacement even if the bulk of the fleet will be based in Sevastopol.
In addition, let’s say different deliveries to Syria will still have to be carried out from Novorossiysk, because there will not be a stable cargo connection with Sevastopol for a long time, unless Maidan is reached before the loss of the entire southeast, only then the value of Novorossiysk as a transshipment point will decrease. So for now there will be based on any BDK and OVR forces

[jjj]

And bunkering in Novorossiysk is still cheaper and more logistic. Sevastopol will be convenient when the eastern regions come under our influence

[Serg65]

Quote: jjj

And bunkering in Novorossiysk is still cheaper and more logistic. Sevastopol will be convenient when the eastern regions come under our influence

I dare disagree, is it that every time to drive a ship to Novorossiysk for bunkering? Where is the logic? The oil storage in Sukharka, and not such, in terms of numbers, the fleet provided fuel! Novorossiysk will become an operatively maneuverable base, parking there is not convenient, especially when the northeast begins to blow from the Sugar Head.

[avt]

Quote: omsbon

I hope that we have enough mind and common sense, not to quit what we started, but to rationally use Crimea and Novorossiysk!

Well, this was also conceived by Admiral Lazarev, who actually opened Novorossiysk as an additional, but not the main base of the fleet. Of course, you need to build it!

[Tersky]

Quote: omsbon

I hope that we have enough mind and common sense, not to quit what we started

? Quote-"The Minister of Defense demanded to complete the construction of the mooring front and the western pier ahead of schedule in 2015, the press service of the military department told ITAR-TASS."

[Afinogen]

Yes, let there be two bases.

[vostok1982]

the main thing is that there should be enough ships.

[gispanec]

I am sure it will be so ..... and Sevastopol will work and in Novorossiysk there will be our ships and everything will be rational

[KOSMOS]

The double impression of the title of the article!

[Gagarin]

It definitely won’t be superfluous!

[pavel patriot]

I do not even doubt. With what is happening now, with the mood of the people, with such a minister .... I have no doubt. The only thing I want is to be quick.

[kelevra]

It’s just that, comrades, it’s not necessary to argue and quarrel over the Crimea. It seems to me, for Novorossiysk, the Crimean bases, this will be a budget saving and the rejection of any extreme decisions in the construction of the base.

[aleks 62]

The port of Novorossiysk has one bad feature (natural) .... If the wind blows (strong northeastern), and it is there quite often (the bora is called), then the entry and exit of ships from the bay becomes very problematic. Moreover, there is only one bay ... There is no such thing in Sevastopol, a whole system of bays, allowing ships to exit at any time of the year. Sevastopol is a whole system of bays. Google it and see. By the way, you can see the bay of Novorossiysk in 3D in one popular online game WOWP (there it is called "PORT") ....

[lukke]

It makes no sense to compare these bases - there is too much difference in everything (the depth of the bays, infrastructure, etc.) of the Bora (or as we called it Nord-Ost) also plays a role, but it is more likely for commerce - for example, the Novorossiysk Shipyard in winter time does not make a profit because of it, etc. (simple). It happens, of course, that some small tonnage will turn it over), not without it. But in general, the Tsemess Bay is already crowded, even though it does not constitute a tenth of the bays of Sevastopol. And the port is not only a pier. Balaclava also belongs to Sevastopol, but it has no analogues in the world ... So (to no offense to Novoros), to compare these bases, to put it mildly, is not proportional

[Stiletto]

Both Crimea and Novorossiysk need to be rebuilt and improved up to the commissioning of the main base of our fleet - in Constantinople

[kostyan77708]

different bases are needed, different bases are important))))

[Ruswolf]

Quote: kostyan77708

different bases are needed, different bases are important))))

For all 100% !!!
For normal and operational work, as well as security, each object must meet its purpose and fulfill the goals for which it was created.
The military port is not a vegetable storehouse base!
You cannot spoil the sea with ports and moorings!

[GRune]

It took so long to build that Crimea managed to join.

[darksoul]

Quote: omsbon

I hope that we have enough mind and common sense, not to quit what we started, but to rationally use Crimea and Novorossiysk!

and why not, and not whether we aim at two fleets on the Black Sea

[Ruswolf]

Basil Hello buddy!
Look at the site banderlog appeared!
Almost everyone who speaks out for both ports is minuscule!
So we think right!

[Svetovod]

Under capitalism, in the "non-war" time, everyone eats each other - and competitors.
In the pre-war period, these ports, on the contrary, reinforce one another. Eggs in baskets.

[Signaller]

Clear pepper. Lohanka Novorossiysk will always take a torpedo on its raid and fly away to the pro-soldiers, and BORA will not let itself be forgotten. So for boats it’s normal. But more ... no way.

[Eydolon]

"At the second stage of the FTP implementation, it was planned to build a second base south of Novorossiysk - in Gelendzhik or Tuapsekakoe". What is Gelendzhik ??? Resort number two after Sochi. And military bases?))

[biglow]

now it’s faster to finish building everything in Novorossiysk and throw all our strength into the Crimea, here we have not a plowed field of work, after 20 years of destruction

[pogis]

Quote: chunga-changa

There used to be a base in Poti. Novorossiysk can be considered as its replacement even if the bulk of the fleet will be based in Sevastopol.
In addition, let’s say different deliveries to Syria will still have to be carried out from Novorossiysk, because there will not be a stable cargo connection with Sevastopol for a long time, unless Maidan is reached before the loss of the entire southeast, only then the value of Novorossiysk as a transshipment point will decrease. So for now there will be based on any BDK and OVR forces

Novorossiysk is a replacement for Odessa, IMHO.

[Mexanik k-407]

The people got the thought of the tree - to Sukharka still pull tanks on the railway through ukrov - not an option :-), and the bunker go to Sevastopol - a little, cheaper than the piece of iron. It is necessary to verb with a calculator, and not with a mouthpiece. Yes, and pennants were located in Sevastopol - enough to spread throughout the Caucasus.

Quote: Serg65

Quote: jjj

And bunkering in Novorossiysk is still cheaper and more logistic. Sevastopol will be convenient when the eastern regions come under our influence

I dare disagree, is it that every time to drive a ship to Novorossiysk for bunkering? Where is the logic? The oil storage in Sukharka, and not such, in terms of numbers, the fleet provided fuel! Novorossiysk will become an operatively maneuverable base, parking there is not convenient, especially when the northeast begins to blow from the Sugar Head.

[Serg65]

Okay, let's get the calculator. A tanker of the Novoship company, with a deadweight of, let's say, 70 thousand tons, will calmly approach the berths of Sukharnaya Balka, and it will take about 25 railroad trains to transport the same amount of fuel by rail! For the cruiser "Moskva" to get its thousand tons of solarium, does it have to run to Novorossiysk once a month? Those. we live in the city, and we run to the village to eat ?? !!! Original, dear Anatoly!

[darksoul]

Quote: Ruswolf

Basil Hello buddy!
Look at the site banderlog appeared!
Almost everyone who speaks out for both ports is minuscule!
So we think right!

exactly revenge