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Why signing a political association with the EU does not make me optimistic

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Why signing a political association with the EU does not make me optimistic



The signing of the political part of the treaty with the EU was almost a week ago. But current events did not give me the opportunity to quickly respond to this action. However, a few days later, this topic has not lost its relevance.

And we begin, perhaps, with an eloquent quotation from the famous edition of the Sunday Telegraph.

“EU leaders can hardly afford to be too aggressive when the EU imports 30% of its natural gas from Russia, - noted in the article Sunday Telegraph. - TSo Ukrainians are caught between a rock and a place that is too soft to help them. 21 March, when their acting. Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk arrived in Brussels to sign the Association Agreement, the EU was so embarrassed that the ceremony had to be held behind closed doors, not in front of the media.

The poor fellow was not even given a microphone, he had to shout out his wish to see Ukraine as a member of the EU ”,
- writes Sunday Telegraph.

The first part of Marlezonsky ballet

In fact, the EU has an association agreement with several dozens of countries, for them it is a meaningless routine. It was the Ukrainian opposition that fanned out of this something special, so that there was something to tell their “lohtoratu”. Well, and the European commissioners just played along a bit, because it was profitable for them.

After all, initially all this movement around the Association Agreement with the EU was conceived from the European side solely as a way to “sniff” Ukrainians with more European goods, and preferably duty-free. Only in the process it turned out that the overwhelming majority of Ukrainians are insolvent, and even loans cannot be used to stimulate the consumption of European goods, since the country (and the state, and corporations, and the people) are already credited in full.

And all this “European integration” has become for European commissioners like the fifth wheel of a cart - and it’s hard to bear, and it’s impossible to quit — they won't understand (there will be image losses). Especially since the moment when the temporary government of Turchinov came to power on the shoulders of ultra-right militants from the Right Sector and other nationalist groups.

Europeans are terrified that all these crowds of militants in helmets, masks, body armor, with batons and machine guns want to integrate into them. But not only from the militants they are terrified. Numerous delegates and deputies who now travel to Brussels and various European capitals with the phrase “Neither mange and system jour”, inspire them no less than fear.

The EU has huge financial problems, which they wanted to tweak a little at the expense of the gullible natives, and here it turns out the opposite - the natives expect to solve their problems at the expense of the EU. In Europe, no one counted on and did not sign. But also to send obsessive petitioners directly is also somehow "unreasonable."

The second part of Marlezonsky ballet

What is the political part of the Association Agreement with the EU, signed by Yatsenyuk in Brussels?

Actually, since the contract is initially trade and economic, without its economic part it’s just a collection of beautiful words about friendship, chewing gum andGive your king our heartfelt greetings. ”.

The same moments that really affect something, frankly not to the benefit of Ukraine. So, in a number of areas duties have been abolished (which seems to be good), but restrictive quotas have been introduced. The quota for the export of grain is called at the level of 2 million tons with the capabilities of about 3,5 million tons. That is, the benefits of reducing duties are rather doubtful.

Another example is the export of sugar. Earlier, Ukraine exported about 100 thousand tons of sugar per year, but now the quota is only 20 thousand tons. A similar situation is observed in some other industries.

As a result, Europeans will buy Ukrainian goods at reduced prices, but also in smaller quantities. And this is a reduction in exports and a further deterioration in the trade balance (which is already terrible).

The third part of Marlezonsky ballet

Meanwhile, the Cabinet has prepared a new, revised version of the main macro-indicators of the economic and social development of Ukraine.

According to it, the economy is expected to fall on 3% and high inflation at the level of 12% (which is, in fact, extremely optimistic). The previous government expected GDP growth of 3% and inflation of 8,6%.

According to the government's forecast, nominal GDP will be 1,574 trillion UAH, not 1,653 trillion UAH (respectively, revenues to the budget will be reduced, increasing its deficit).

The unemployment rate will rise to 8,2%, and the number of working citizens will be 20,15 million. At the same time, taking into account the expected inflation, the nominal wage will be reduced by almost 5%.

Imports of goods to Ukraine are projected at $ 95,3 billion, exports of goods are $ 82,7 billion. The trade balance, according to the Cabinet of Ministers, will be negative and will be $ 12,6 billion.

Immediately, I note that with all the pessimism and gloominess of this forecast, the reality may be even worse. Exports will definitely be lower - since the EU introduces quotas, and the Russian Federation periodically blocks the supply of Ukrainian goods to its markets (which is more than a quarter of all exports). Therefore, the trade balance will be even worse.

Moreover, the value of imports exceeding 60% of GDP is a terrible dependence of the Ukrainian economy on external suppliers, making real sovereignty impossible. In the same neighboring Russian Federation, this indicator ranges from 10 to 15%, and these are mainly non-critical luxuries, most of which can be dispensed with.

Separately, you need to pay attention to the fact that most analysts are ignoring today - GDP was calculated from the dollar rate in 8,25 at the beginning of the year and its further growth by the end of the year to 8,5-8,8 UAH / dollar. And today on the interbank rate is already 11 or even 11,1 UAH / USD. Accordingly, in fact, GDP in dollars will fall to 25-30% by the end of the year (this is if the dollar does not continue to grow further).

Well, as we can see, the government needs to find at least 12,6 + 7,3 + 2 billion dollars by the end of the year (to cover the trade deficit + current debt payments + payment of debts for gas). That is, in sum, in modest terms, about 22 billion dollars. And all the credits promised by the West, even if it is fully secured (which I doubt), will be only about 11 billion, that is, only half of what is needed.

And if for the hryvnia it is still possible to start inflation by turning on the machine, then this number will not work with the dollar.

The fourth part of Marlezonsky ballet

Why am I so skeptical about European loans? Because according to paragraph 3 Art. 106 of the Constitution of Ukraine “The President represents the state in international affairs, he said, he is responsible for the political and political affairs of the state, internal agreements of Ukraine».

Therefore, the papers signed by Yatsenyuk in Brussels mean nothing, they have no legal force. And they can be challenged in any court and declared invalid at any time.

And since we don’t actually have a President, and the powers of the “acting” in accordance with the Constitution are greatly curtailed, any debts taken by this government, sales contracts and other transactions and agreements concluded by this government can also be declared invalid.

Therefore, no one will give real money under ghostly obligations. Because tomorrow can come any new government that will say “Temporary, slaz” and “To whom did you give money? Impostors? ”and then no one will prove anything to anyone. And in the EU or the IMF they understand this perfectly ...
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  1. Vi_RUS
    Vi_RUS 29 March 2014 15: 45
    +9
    Marlezon ballet and its consequences, or how traitors surrendered Ukraine to the West! Watch in all cinemas of the World!
    1. platitsyn70
      platitsyn70 29 March 2014 15: 54
      +6
      Marlezon ballet in the fog, where there are no specific contracts, only hints and promises. Ukrainian pans will be European slaves.
    2. Coffee_time
      Coffee_time 29 March 2014 18: 07
      +16
      Well, something like this, the Polish version of events
      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 29 March 2014 18: 50
        +8
        the signing of the political Association with the EU does not make me optimistic


        European integration - in Ukrainian ((((
    3. nikolaev
      nikolaev 29 March 2014 23: 00
      0
      331
      http://oko-planet.su/politik/politiklist/236788-ukraina-kak-byt-s-dengami-yulii-
      timoshenko.html
  2. Rus2012
    Rus2012 29 March 2014 15: 46
    +5
    and meanwhile -
    Klitschko refused to participate in the presidential elections in Ukraine
    even he had enough mazgs not to participate in this sabotage ...
    “Today, Klitschko will withdraw his candidacy,” UNIAN quotes the words of the former head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the country, the leader of the Third Ukrainian Republic association Yuriy Lutsenko.

    On the website of the UDAR party, it is reported that Klitschko proposed Petro Poroshenko for the presidency of Ukraine, and he announced that he intends to participate in the mayoral elections in Kiev.
    1. Keeper
      Keeper 29 March 2014 15: 55
      +16
      Most likely, his coach said that there was no chance, and at least some place would be taken ...
      Klitschko himself has no brains ...
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 29 March 2014 16: 26
        +5
        Media: the state concern "Ukroboronprom" stopped supplying weapons and military equipment to Russia
        Kirdyk to the Ukrainian defense industry? recourse

        KIEV, March 29. / ITAR-TASS /. The State Concern Ukroboronprom has stopped supplying weapons and military equipment to Russia. This was told to the online edition of the newspaper ZN.UA by the interim general director of the concern Yuri Tereshchenko.

        "Already today, for obvious reasons, weapons and military equipment are not supplied to Russia," he said. "Until the moment of de-escalation of the conflict, our relations will remain in a frozen state."

        In his opinion, relations with Russia in the sphere of economic and military-technical cooperation "should be considered at the highest state level, in the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine."
        1. Alekseev
          Alekseev 29 March 2014 16: 57
          +5
          Quote: Sid.74
          Media: the state concern "Ukroboronprom" stopped supplying weapons and military equipment to Russia

          I wonder what specifically supplied this dill in the Russian Federation?
          Engines do not drag on, MS supplies them for civilian helicopters.
          Accessories? It is unlikely that they will not sell something if paid!
          and no one will know what it is? What is this for? what
          So, the propaganda vyser and a blow to his own reputation.
      2. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 29 March 2014 16: 36
        +4
        Quote: Keeper
        Klitschko himself has no brains ...

        Vladimir Volfovich said something like that, about boxing brains ...
    2. parus2nik
      parus2nik 29 March 2014 16: 30
      +3
      even he had enough mazgs not to participate in this sabotage ..Э
      It was the brains who had the strength not to let Klitschko into the presidency, although they are small, they apparently influence Klitschko
    3. Egoza
      29 March 2014 18: 13
      +7
      Quote: Rus2012
      Klitschko refused to participate in the presidential elections in Ukraine

      This is a BLOW for him! At the beloved congress "own" a party formed with money from the Konrad Adenauer Foundation in Germany ( wink ) I had to keep the "face" to declare -
      "The situation requires consolidation and pooling of efforts for the sake of the unity of the country. The future president of Ukraine should have the highest possible level of support of people in the current conditions. This can be achieved only if the votes are not stretched between democratic candidates," Klitschko said.
      “I have always said: this should be a candidate who will receive the greatest support of citizens, high chances of winning. Today, such a candidate is Petro Poroshenko. We stood and fought side by side on the Maidan - and we will work side by side to transform Ukraine. I am convinced - if other democratic forces supported a single candidate, we would have received a common victory in the first round. This would not only be a demonstration of our unity, but would also allow us to save significant funds for the Ukrainian budget, "Klitschko said.
      xxx
      As a "consolation" prize - he was nominated for the mayoral elections in Kiev !!! And it will fly here! And this will be the second BLOW!
      1. comprochikos
        comprochikos 29 March 2014 22: 00
        +2
        "We stood and fought side by side on the Maidan"
        I somehow didn’t understand - he stood or fought, and with whom did he fight? Did I miss something? what
        1. Sergh
          Sergh 29 March 2014 23: 23
          +3
          Quote: Egoza
          I am convinced that if other democratic forces supported

          These forces will support you.

  3. techmesh
    techmesh 29 March 2014 15: 46
    +21
    What is the political part of the Association Agreement with the EU, signed by Yatsenyuk in Brussels

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/700/khfo394.jpg
    1. renics
      renics 29 March 2014 16: 29
      +3
      This hilariously bravely cool political humor!
  4. delfinN
    delfinN 29 March 2014 15: 48
    +20
    "Why signing a political association with the EU doesn't make me an optimist"
  5. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov 29 March 2014 15: 50
    +6
    "SO THE UKRAINIANS WERE Squeezed BETWEEN THE ROCK AND THE PLACE WERE TOO SOFT TO HELP THEM, how they describe their ASS poetically!
  6. a52333
    a52333 29 March 2014 15: 50
    +5
    Welcome or No Trespassing (EU)
  7. Keeper
    Keeper 29 March 2014 15: 51
    +18
    1. They will set up hypermarkets in Ukraine and feed GMOs until all people happy with their lives turn into oligophrenics!
    2. They also bury nuclear waste from all over Europe and the United States near industrial centers in eastern Ukraine, in order to later say that the factories emit radiation and they do not meet European standards - they will close the ...
    3. As Zapadentsy went to poppottirat to the EU - and will remain at this level (ordinary people), and those who are richer - YES! The whole world is at their feet.

    But here I personally have a question: IF YOU ARE RICH and you can afford to live in any country - is it worth selling your HOMELAND ?! And for what ?! After all, and so everything is in chocolate ?!

    The answer is simple: wealth is not in money, but in the heart and soul (which is completely absent among the leading members of Ukraine)!
    THEY are beggars ...
    1. serohim
      serohim 29 March 2014 16: 27
      +4
      Quote: Keeper

      2. Also bury nuclear waste from all over Europe and the United States.

      already trying.
      http://nk.org.ua/politika/78958-kievskiy-poezd-smerti
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 29 March 2014 17: 10
        +3
        In the empty place they plant a hemp. Fun!
  8. Sergey315
    Sergey315 29 March 2014 15: 55
    +12
    And here is the first swallow from the EU
    The representative office of the European Union in Ukraine reminds the Ukrainian authorities of the need to adopt anti-discrimination legislation on grounds of sexual orientation. This is stated in the message of the EU Delegation on the page on Facebook. “The EU’s position to combat discrimination based on sexual orientation remains the same. The European Commission will do everything possible to accelerate the liberalization of the visa dialogue, but in accordance with the terms of the agreed action plan on visa liberalization, ”the statement said.
    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-142182.html
    1. Keeper
      Keeper 29 March 2014 15: 57
      +6
      All the thoughts of the EU below the belt, whatever one may say)))
      1. comprochikos
        comprochikos 29 March 2014 22: 04
        +2
        Or a little lower back wassat
      2. jktu66
        jktu66 30 March 2014 00: 34
        +1
        And it is the EU from the "rear" that "will support" the current rulers of Ukraine. Such an association has arisen. laughing
    2. andrei332809
      andrei332809 29 March 2014 16: 29
      +12
      Quote: Sergey315
      The representative office of the European Union in Ukraine reminds the Ukrainian authorities of the need to adopt anti-discrimination legislation on grounds of sexual orientation.

      and knew that all this bedlam because of pido..sov angry
    3. Mercenary
      Mercenary 29 March 2014 16: 36
      +3
      Fascist gay? This is nonsense, although the Nazis did not disdain anything. And what does the schismatics from Orthodoxy think about this?
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 29 March 2014 19: 56
        +3
        Quote: Mercenary
        Fascist gay?

        yeah, combat pid ..as wassat
    4. Jarilo
      Jarilo 29 March 2014 16: 43
      +3
      Just imagine how EuroMaidan can be transformed after the adoption of European values ​​- liberalization of anti-discrimination legislation based on sexual orientation.
    5. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 29 March 2014 18: 09
      +4
      Quote: Sergey315
      And here is the first swallow from the EU

      "Grandfather Panas and the European Union (Versions.com Ukraine) "- exhibited at VO in September 2013 - they laughed and laughed ...
      Wait ... laughing
  9. Sergg
    Sergg 29 March 2014 15: 56
    +5
    Rather, the eastern part of Ukraine would separate: into an independent state or become part of Russia, if only the people of this region would stay as far from the Kiev madhouse as possible. Rather, the situation would develop in this vein.
    1. avt
      avt 29 March 2014 16: 06
      +8
      Quote: Sergg
      Rather, the eastern part of Ukraine would separate: into an independent state or become part of Russia, if only the people of this region would stay as far from the Kiev madhouse as possible.

      Yes, at least you won't have to pay on Kiev bills. Whoever is the last to remain will be fully integrated. Once, "Ukrainians tse Evropa" -Lower Ukraine to Dill, like God is holy. The main thing is to organize on the ground and hold a referendum on the creation of Novorossia. Let the rest skip and breed pigs in the center of Zuropean Kiev.
      1. PATTIY
        PATTIY 30 March 2014 11: 46
        +1
        Quote: avt
        Lower Ukraine to

        she is already
        Quote: avt
        Dill
    2. vsoltan
      vsoltan 29 March 2014 17: 00
      +3
      The clown Zhirik put forward the idea of ​​dividing Ukraine into several parts .... and he is right, from a historical and geopolitical point of view - the Dnieper is the border of completely different civilizations ..... like Cupid - with China. That's the whole story. "Cut to hell!"
      1. andrewvlg
        andrewvlg 29 March 2014 17: 33
        +4
        Quote: vsoltan
        lone Zhirik put forward the idea of ​​dividing Ukraine into several parts .... and he is right, from a historical and geopolitical point of view, the Dnieper is the border of completely different civilizations ..... just like Cupid is with China. That's the whole story. "Cut to hell!"

        But no! Nothing to cut and share! Ukraine (Little Russia) - all the Russian blood sprinkled, even under the tsar-priest Cossack units in Lviv (on the memory) were. And the world was there, and normal relations between Russians and Ukrainians, as well as in the USSR (only after the outbreak of World War II, Bandera shit in black, as most of them did not support the memory). All sorts of UPA, UNA-UNSO used relative popular only in small parts ZU, in the same Galicia, and even then not in all. Do you want to present the Poles "along the Dnieper"? This is half of Ukraine!
    3. Sunflower
      Sunflower 29 March 2014 17: 25
      +2
      but I think the South-East somehow blown away .... they do not have normal leaders request
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 29 March 2014 18: 10
        +4
        Quote: Sunflower
        but I think the South-East somehow blown away .... they do not have normal leaders

        Forgot that there is "Bandero-Democracy" tapericha?
      2. Egoza
        29 March 2014 18: 24
        +6
        Quote: Sunflower
        but I think the South-East somehow blown away ..

        Well no!
        In Lugansk they again demanded a referendum. PHOTO



        Pro-Russian activists of the Luhansk region expressed their intention to demand from the Verkhovna Rada the adoption of a law on an all-Ukrainian referendum. They stated this at a rally that brought together about three hundred people in the center of Lugansk, the polemic correspondent reports. Protesters said that BP, on the basis of their survey-referendum, is obliged to call an all-Ukrainian referendum. People chanted “Referendum”, “Russia”, “America will not pass”, “No - NATO”. Activists said that on Sunday representatives of the Donetsk militia will come to Lugansk to sign an agreement to unite the militia of the two regions. Recall that the Lugansk rally of supporters of the referendum on the federalization of Ukraine began with the fact that activists invited everyone to trample on the US flag. The protesters happily responded to the proposal of the organizers. As a result, the entire flag was smeared with mud.
        Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-142248.html
        XXXX
        If you follow the link, there are many pictures below.
        But trampling on the flag - I do not approve! There is no need to become like the same banderlog !!!
  10. Grenz
    Grenz 29 March 2014 16: 03
    +9
    Well, what can I say. Wherever you throw a wedge everywhere.
    And the saddest thing is that in the future there will be no clearance for the common man for many years.
    Klitschko will suffer from the mayors of Kiev, of course.
    Kolomiytsev and Taruta will also fill their wallets by robbing the people.
    Someone else will find their place on the European stage.
    The right sector will still be robbed and again lay down in its caches before the next Maidan.
    But there will probably never be a happy and prosperous Ukraine, a country with equal relations between different nations. The split in society can no longer be blotted out.
    It's sad. The page is closed - which was entitled: "Friendship of Slavic and Fraternal Peoples".
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  11. konvalval
    konvalval 29 March 2014 16: 04
    +8
    Well, I wanted the egg to show off against the background of nobles. Show that Ukraine is in Europe. No suckers were found around him, and that there he was a sucker, he did not understand.
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  13. Gloria45
    Gloria45 29 March 2014 16: 09
    +3
    [media = http: //www.kp.ru/video/501131/]
    Poterianaya Ukraina
    1. smile
      smile 29 March 2014 16: 21
      0
      Gloria45
      Great report. Thank you, Julia.
      1. Gloria45
        Gloria45 29 March 2014 16: 56
        0
        I vam spasibo
  14. pts-m
    pts-m 29 March 2014 16: 13
    +5
    Yes, the author of the article is 100% right with what is happening and will happen. But the most interesting is few people will read this article in Ukraine. For residents of the media, they’ll blow the opposite information into their ears.
    1. Egoza
      29 March 2014 18: 22
      +4
      Quote: PTS-m
      the media blow the opposite information into the ears.

      Little of!
      Of course, I understand that I’m already tired of reading and discussing Ukraine! Well, what can you do if our media is constantly driving such a wave ...

      "Right Sector" claims the abduction of the leader of the Ukrainian National Assembly by the Russian special services Nikolai Karpyuk. One of the leaders of the "Right Sector" Andrei Denisenko said this on the air of "Shuster Live". "This is an official statement - at the moment the FSB has kidnapped the leader of the Ukrainian National Assembly, Mykola Karpyuk," Denisenko said. We will remind, earlier the head of the Verkhovna Rada Alexander Turchinov said that the "Right Sector" acts into the hands of the Russian leadership.
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-142217.html
      XXXX
      You have to be up to date to know (in which case) how to fight back!
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 29 March 2014 18: 34
        +3
        Quote: Egoza
        Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-142217.html

        He looked in, read - Zadornov is resting ... laughing
        I will say more-insanity on a state scale ....
      2. samoletil18
        samoletil18 29 March 2014 21: 30
        0
        Quote: Egoza
        Alexander Turchinov said that "Right Sector" is playing into the hands of the Russian leadership
        It seems to me sometimes
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    2. batonoGivi
      batonoGivi 29 March 2014 19: 36
      +2
      Oh, sho you say that! Do you think that all of Ukraine was on the Maidan, or? Those who have at least a little brain in their head, only the Ukrainian media do not watch. They still watch a lot of things, and they still have the opportunity to compare and choose at least a little truth.
  15. Same lech
    Same lech 29 March 2014 16: 17
    +2
    natives expect to solve their problems at the expense of the EU. No one counted on or subscribed to this in Europe. But directly sending obsessive petitioners is also somehow "awkward."



    This is true as twice two
    Galicia, like a rotten piece of meat thrown into soup heh heh ... spoil any dish.
  16. parus2nik
    parus2nik 29 March 2014 16: 33
    +2
    But it just pleases me, oddly enough .. Wanted? Go on ..
  17. Mercenary
    Mercenary 29 March 2014 16: 44
    +3
    I understand the author from Ukraine? It’s hard to write and read that the flowering country was between the cliffs ... and to understand that the Maydan people have no future, they just feel sorry for the simple laborers, they had no time to ride around Kiev, they feed the children and dream that their children will live better.
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 29 March 2014 21: 03
      +1
      Quote: Mercenary
      I understand the author from Ukraine? It’s hard to write and read that the flowering country was between the cliffs ... and to understand that the Maydan people have no future, they just feel sorry for the simple laborers, they had no time to ride around Kiev, they feed the children and dream that their children will live better.


      Children are always sorry, but parents are much fewer. When the question was: work now or work tomorrow, they chose work now, allowed demagogues and loafers to take power and, as a result, many will lose their jobs tomorrow. Of course, everyone was not happy with Yanukovych (I softened here) and even the Ukrainian media, but after all, especially in the southeast, Russian TV was quite accessible to the majority and it wasn’t understood that forces that were much more terrible than Yanukovych could go to power only people. When in Kiev armed (then still not automatic) gangs decided the fate of the country, it was necessary not to work, but to give a direct and tough working rebuff to the Maidan directly in Kiev, since the power that was in effect at that time was struck by impotence. You need to know when you can work, and when you need to fight. By the way, Ukrainians, where were your unions? Why do you need SUCH unions?
  18. jPilot
    jPilot 29 March 2014 16: 53
    +2
    Well, Ukraine "dorokhaya" get ready EU will twist you into a ram's horn, now it reminds of sexual minorities .... Well, well, soon everything will be in ... you will be European. Southeast, quickly federalize and disconnect ...
  19. mabuta
    mabuta 29 March 2014 17: 06
    +12
    Oh! There would be a time machine ...
  20. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 29 March 2014 17: 15
    +3
    Oh, these commissars! The Reds came to rob (15 lards were given), the White came to rob (they try to ASSOCIATE). Where to go to Independent?
  21. Cynic
    Cynic 29 March 2014 17: 19
    +3
    Well absurdity dear forum users!
    You read the news about the accomplishments of the new Ukrainian government (that is, about attempts by them to take some measures) and you can’t get rid of the impression _ TV SERIES SHOW !
    But this is actually happening!
    I have long been in a situation for a long time _ You realize that this is impossible, wrong, but acting. Circumstances are stronger than you. And there is no strength to go aside.
  22. sv68
    sv68 29 March 2014 17: 20
    +3
    maybe Ukraine will understand that the EU just threw them like lahov ... and arrange Maidan in Brussels
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 29 March 2014 21: 21
      +1
      Quote: sv68
      maybe Ukraine will understand that the EU just threw them like lahov ... and arrange Maidan in Brussels


      Dreaming is not harmful, but I wonder what the Brussels "Maidan" will be called, well, not "Euromaidan," if there is one?
  23. mackonya
    mackonya 29 March 2014 17: 39
    +1
    In any situation, the people of Ukraine will suffer, what is the use of the change of power, the new government is already trying to grab a piece. It was necessary to create a political opposition, not a gangster one.
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 29 March 2014 21: 23
      +2
      Quote: mackonya
      In any situation, the people of Ukraine will suffer, what is the use of the change of power, the new government is already trying to grab a piece. It was necessary to create a political opposition, not a gangster one.


      That is why in Russia they prefer evolution rather than revolution.
  24. Strashila
    Strashila 29 March 2014 17: 39
    +9
    The EU was created as a counterweight to CMEA, which did pretty well in the Soviet Union.
    Only they didn’t catch everything, it’s not enough to unite, it is required that the founder of this association have moral principles ... moral principles, this is the foundation.
    In contrast to Old Europe, the USSR had such foundations, although they were presented under the flag of socialist ideas that were not so beloved in the West.
    What is the difference ... of the EU and CMEA, in what does tolerance differ from internationalism, than economic interest and free friendship.
    If in the old days there were mono empires of Great Britain, Germany, France, Spain ... now the EU is a poly empire consisting of the same countries of Old Europe.
    And the rest of the members that the rest ... the status of the colony, as in the old days somewhere in Africa.
    If the USSR and others followed the path of qualitative expansion, they were not allowed to quantify the capitalist environment imprisoned for this type of existence, albeit not so quickly, but progressively.
    The USSR was not greedy, even somewhere, to the detriment of itself, it shared with its comrades in the system work.
    That Old Europe works only for itself ... sucks out all of its colonies.
    And you cannot endlessly rob.
    Ukraine, this is a postponement of the total crisis in the EU, so to speak, an attempt at the last sip ... 40 with a penny of millions of consumers ... so for a couple of three years to stay afloat.
    Further Russia ... than the confrontation with it always ended ... with victorious marches in Paris and Berlin.
    Russia has already proved that from this future confrontation it will again be the winner ... she already has the first Crimea bonus ... this is only the beginning.
    wink
  25. doc62
    doc62 29 March 2014 17: 58
    +2
    they obviously like this circus
    1. Egoza
      29 March 2014 18: 32
      +3
      Quote: doc62
      they obviously like this circus

      Someone can see and like it! But I don't like it at all! And the whole circus in general, and "particulars"
      The main source of drinking water in the Odessa region is practically not protected - Deputy Water withdrawal in the area of ​​Mayaki village, Belyaevsky district, Odessa region, supplying drinking water to Odessa itself and the majority of the population of the entire region, was left virtually unprotected, deputy Olga Vovchenko said at a session of the Odessa Regional Council, a polemic correspondent reports. According to her, this most important strategic facility is now protected by only a few unarmed people. And this is despite the fact that it is located in the immediate vicinity of Transnistria, and any damage to it can cause a real environmental disaster in the south-west of Ukraine. The deputy reminded the leadership of the region that even in the calm Soviet period, this facility was under constant heavy armed guard. In her conviction, leaving the main water intake of the region virtually unprotected during such a difficult political period is, on the part of the region’s leadership, at least negligence, fraught with dire consequences.
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-142218.html
      XXXX
      Can you imagine what could happen to an entire region if such a Right Sector captures the Main Source? So there will be pressure on the South of Ukraine in case of their resistance! Therefore, we still need the PR of the current "power"! How would not have to shoot then the film "Thirst-2" !!!
  26. Zomanus
    Zomanus 29 March 2014 18: 31
    +2
    Come on. But Ukraine will learn to live and think by itself. And then as a disaster, so immediately to Russia for help. And as all is well, they are Europeans, not Slavs. Now they’ll try one, the other and let them choose what they need.
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 29 March 2014 21: 40
      +2
      Quote: Zomanus
      Come on. But Ukraine will learn to live and think by itself. And then as a disaster, so immediately to Russia for help. And as all is well, they are Europeans, not Slavs. Now they’ll try one, the other and let them choose what they need.


      Like Serbs and Bulgarians ...
  27. Cristall
    Cristall 29 March 2014 18: 38
    +2
    in order to show that he "fulfilled" the demands of the people on the Maidan. Well, that is, the sponsors pretended that the carrot was given to Ukraine.
    The association did not please me at all. Yatsyk is a pea fool, does not solve anything on his own. The puppet is cleaner than Yushch ... sort of YUSHCH 2 .... and Yushch had a powerful opposition in parliament. And this one cleaned everything and drove them out ... now the HRAID is completely occupied by the traitors of the Ukrainian people.
    Personally, I do not accept everything that ZADA now signs and does. Because it is a betrayal of Ukrainian interests and people.
  28. VeteranS
    VeteranS 29 March 2014 18: 45
    +1
    I would like to sincerely wish the brotherly people of Ukraine peace and stability, but the United States and its unipolar world just do not need it, so ordinary people will have to tighten their belts ... until their patience bursts and they throw out this illegal maidan with shame Bandera power!
    God save Russia and Holy Russia!
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 29 March 2014 21: 46
      +1
      Quote: VeteranS
      I would like to sincerely wish the brotherly people of Ukraine peace and stability, but the United States and its unipolar world just do not need it, so ordinary people will have to tighten their belts ... until their patience bursts and they throw out this illegal maidan with shame Bandera power!
      God save Russia and Holy Russia!


      Apparently, everyone should drink their cup, the Russians had 90s, and the Ukrainians, apparently, like a duck ...
  29. mig31
    mig31 29 March 2014 19: 04
    +1
    Theater of the absurd, the last tour, and then ...., hemp growth, yes poppy. The CIA foothold in place of Afghanistan.
  30. mig31
    mig31 29 March 2014 19: 22
    +2
    Because of the independence in bondage, is it, Shaw for the Maidan ?, it’s easier to shoot the whole parliament, although traitors to the people, as it was, are all cowards.
  31. Ivan 63
    Ivan 63 29 March 2014 20: 35
    +2
    We will be optimistic - a complete collapse of Ukraine is inevitable! (And desirable)
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 29 March 2014 21: 52
      +1
      Quote: Ivan 63
      We will be optimistic - a complete collapse of Ukraine is inevitable! (And desirable)


      Let us remember the independent Ukraine. Will Little Russia, New Russia, Galicia and Subcarpathian Rus revive in its place?
      Or will there be a "wild field" again?
  32. Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx 29 March 2014 23: 13
    +2
    It is clear that the EU and Ukraine are engaged only in order to annoy Russia.
  33. shelva
    shelva 29 March 2014 23: 59
    +1
    Even the sales market in impoverished Ukraine will fail. Only cheap, unskilled labor and black earth - more and nothing to take. It’s another matter - to be sworn by Russia - this is the main goal.
  34. Semenov
    Semenov 30 March 2014 06: 30
    +1
    This long-term, impoverished, unstable state with an ignorant armed population divided into ideological groups is beneficial for the United States to weaken both Russia and the EU.
  35. MolGro
    MolGro 30 March 2014 11: 37
    +1
    Cartoon about associated with the EU) look at the end)