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Ukrainian mobilization palette

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After the announcement of the newly-minted "authorities" in Kiev, the general headquarters of Ukraine announced partial mobilization that the military commissariats could not even carry out the initial mobilization plan. The reason for the failure to comply with the plan is that 8 from 10, let's say, potentially recruited does not meet the requirements. And it’s not that the requirements of the General Staff were impracticable - not at all. The thing is different. People who have serious health problems, not to mention the level of military training, are arriving at the military registration and enlistment offices.


RIA News quotes the officer of the General Staff of Ukraine:

In military registration and enlistment offices there is an extremely low percentage of men who once served and were enlisted in the reserve. Mostly people come to the recruiting station, often on their own initiative, people who did not serve either for health, or for other delays, or generally evaded conscription. Only in Kryvyi Rih, out of the 200 reservists who arrived from the beginning of the partial mobilization, only 25 people were selected.


The same representative of the Ukrainian General Staff adds about material and technical support in recruiting all those reservists who are joining the ranks of the “militia” today:

Ammunition and fuel limits for the preparation of deployable units are taken from NZ warehouses. Training of draftees takes place in theory, since most of the landfills, shooting ranges and training equipment were not ready to conduct training in combat training. Needless to say, we hardly feed them with grief in half.


Ukrainian mobilization palette


Ukrainian military commissariats announce mobilization for persons who managed to serve in the army at one time, having received this or that military specialty. The greatest demand, as indicated in the "advertisement" of mobilization, is the shooters, machine gunners, drivers, snipers. Hypothetically ready to take on the service and those men who did not serve in the Armed Forces (other security agencies) of Ukraine, but this is hypothetical. In fact, as the representative of the General Staff mentioned, the situation with such “volunteers” is completely bleak.

From the military commissariats, along with the summons, messages are sent that if a man fails to respond to the summons, he will face a criminal sentence of imprisonment for up to five years. But such threats today are far from being at all - long lines at the district military registration and enlistment offices are not recorded.

The words about more than modest material and technical support of both the mobilization process itself and those directly mobilized, expressed by the representative of the General Staff, are confirmed at least by the numbers of financial support for the military personnel of the Ukrainian army. To date, the salary of an ordinary contract soldier of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is 1850 hryvnia - less than 6000 rubles. The ordinary composition of the so-called National Guard, formed from volunteers, is charged exactly the same. The plans of the leadership of law enforcement agencies seem to have points on raising wages in the National Guard (which still needs to be formed) and in the Armed Forces at about 2 times, but plans are one thing, but objective reality is another. And the reality is that as of March 1, wage arrears in Ukraine amounted to no less than 1 billion hryvnia (about 3,2-3,3 billion rubles). Against the background of statements about the need to increase the material support of servicemen and “national guardsmen”, the self-proclaimed government of Ukraine announced that the minimum wage and the level of the subsistence minimum will not increase in order to save money ...

Of course, for a volunteer, the level of material well-being, such as, should not be decisive; decisive should be the desire to stand up for their homeland, but here there are certain rough edges. Not every potential recruit in Ukraine today clearly understands what it is (for whom) he is being called to stand for. For the new oligarchs and henchmen of the West in power, for striving to Europe on bird rights, for the integrity of Ukraine, which (integrity) was shaken after the new “power” began to behave in politics like an elephant in a china shop.

Calling to stand for “Batkivschyna” (in the sense of, for the Motherland, and not for the party) new officials who found themselves at the helm on the wave of radical speeches and pogroms - the very new “power” that had declared it needed to get rid of from the oligarchs in power, and then - silently put the representatives of the oligarch in the gubernatorial chairs: Kolomoisky, Taruta and other "revolutionaries".

In the Dnipropetrovsk region, which, with the filing of Kiev, headed by the aforementioned oligarch Kolomoisky, under the regional administration, the formation of its own paramilitary units, united by the common name “National Defense Regiment”, began. This was announced by the Ukrainian TV channel TSN on air from 20 March 2014 of the year. It is reported that in the regiment to protect against the "likely invasion of Russia" as a volunteer can be enrolled and those citizens of Ukraine who could not get mobilized through the military commissariats.

In fact, this means the following: when the Dnipropetrovsk regional administration (under the patronage of Mr. Kolomoisky), units are formed of persons who were rejected by the military commissariats both for health reasons and for the level of military training.

He became famous for his tirades about Crimeans and their positions (these are tirades from Maidan from 28 February 2014 of the year: No landings from the Maidan. No extremist statements. It is necessary to give any promises and guarantees to the scum and make any concessions. And hang ... hang them need then) Dnepropetrovsk businessman Boris Filatov (the one who waited the hottest phase of the Maidan outside Ukraine) on the formation of a national defense regiment in the region:

The regiment is a voluntary formation. At its base, a unit of reservists of the type of the Israel Defense Forces will be created later.


Quote site leads “Ukrainian Association of Weapons Owners”.

As you can see, Filatov’s plans are more than ambitious ... Isn’t it possible with the help of the Dnepropetrovsk regiment that he “later” is going to “hang” the inhabitants of Crimea?

By the way, about the Israel Defense Forces - one can not get into it either for health reasons, or because of the status of a repatriate of a certain age (including if there are children), or for religious beliefs (which, however, not always official Jerusalem takes into account ).

Judging by the comments of Mr. Filatov, in the Ukrainian “IDF” there are no restrictions even for health reasons - the main thing is to reach the Dnipropetrovsk regional administration. Well, if you don’t walk around yourself - for the number of people they will inform and arrange, as expected, “fellow soldiers” ... What this regiment will do at first - wait so ... Wait for the “probable Russian invasion”. Apparently, it will take a long time to wait, if they themselves do not decide to speed up the process of the enemy’s arrival with the help of another provocation from the new “authorities” from Kiev ...

By the way, in Ukraine today the idea of ​​not only creating under the regional administrations and village councils “national defense regiments” of all those whom the military registration and enlistment offices did not take, but also the idea of ​​increasing the material support of the army with alternative methods is being actively exaggerated. For this on the mentioned site “Ukrainian Association of Weapons Owners” it is proposed ... to sell AKM from military warehouses for those who wish, quotation "normal price". At the same time, the author of the idea explains why it is necessary to sell AKM, and not, for example, AKMS - it turns out that it is impossible to wear the machine secretly ...

Quotes from the same:

Cartridges when traveling to the shooting range to sell at cost.

Well, a practical shooting instructor can really be paid for budget money.

You see, in another year we will get a fully combat-ready and well-trained and patriotic army.

Fast and cheap, and most importantly for the people's money!


Yeah. If this is not irony, then the IDF with all its Jewish accounting color, as compared with such hypothetical Ukrainian divisions, is exactly resting ... In principle, for greater economy, one could suggest “to take away the machine gun from the enemy”. That's just about where the true enemies of Ukraine are sitting today - no one was told ...
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  1. Igor39
    Igor39 28 March 2014 07: 51
    +15
    Mobilization, another blow to a dying economy ...
    1. nokki
      nokki 28 March 2014 07: 58
      +27
      Not only. With its help, they are trying, so to speak, to "seize" the most efficient men in the South and East of Ukraine, who could potentially replenish the pro-Russian self-defense forces.
      1. Igor39
        Igor39 28 March 2014 08: 02
        +4
        I think that the most combat-ready are already in the "Self-defense" of the southeast.
        1. Tron
          Tron 28 March 2014 11: 16
          +11
          Unfortunately, there are a lot of sheluponi in the west of Ukraine. Such can be cured in only one way, like Sasha Muzychko.
          1. Robert Nevsky
            Robert Nevsky 28 March 2014 12: 01
            +5
            And Makarenko can help!
          2. Setrac
            Setrac 28 March 2014 15: 01
            +2
            Quote: TroN
            Unfortunately, there are a lot of sheluponi in the west of Ukraine. Such can be cured in only one way, like Sasha Muzychko.

            Photographed in the dark? So that no one sees!
          3. 16101955
            16101955 29 March 2014 00: 24
            +5
            Here we go in kovo ..
        2. security expert
          security expert 28 March 2014 13: 02
          +5
          here they are pulled out. After the second failure to appear, the military prosecutor's office may initiate a case of evasion and .... up to 5 years. I don’t even know what to do. The second week they called me, but I’m all not at home ....) Maybe someone will give practical advice?
          1. Vasyan1971
            Vasyan1971 29 March 2014 23: 25
            0
            A conscript is going to the army. Write, he says, to me mom letters. And where to write something? Captive mom, captive.
      2. Maxim90
        Maxim90 28 March 2014 15: 39
        0
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yKxSWgfADY
    2. avt
      avt 28 March 2014 09: 41
      +6
      Quote: Igor39
      Mobilization, another blow to a dying economy ...

      Yeah, the campaign decided that one hell of a job would become unemployed, and the gas would be turned off at home, so they say let them fight, again, not all come back - find jobs, don't bother and the “nation” will be brought up “yes, rally” finally.
      1. major071
        major071 28 March 2014 10: 49
        +17
        The title of the article should be changed to "Half a liter of Ukrainian mobilization", because without a bottle it is even scary to watch it! laughing drinks
        1. lelikas
          lelikas 28 March 2014 10: 55
          +3
          Quote: major071
          The title of the article should be changed to "Half a liter of Ukrainian mobilization", because you don't even want to look at it without a bottle!

          Here, it’s rather not half a liter but a polish ....
        2. Tirpitz
          Tirpitz 28 March 2014 12: 38
          +9
          I live in Ukraine. There are acquaintances who have been "mobilized". So from their stories: they feed normally, but no one saw either machine guns or more serious weapons. Call for 45 days. Until lunchtime they study military affairs from books, then they drink until morning. The only benefit is moonshine for traders. It doesn't matter if you are a tanker, sniper or artilleryman, weapons are not given, there is no practice.
          1. Uncle
            Uncle 28 March 2014 13: 28
            +5
            Quote: Tirpitz
            Before lunch, they study military affairs from books, then they thump until the morning.

            He served in Lvov, in our unit there were "partisans", overgrown men with mammon like Muzychko's and always drunk. The conscripts were demoralizing. And this was in Soviet times, but I am not talking about now.
          2. smile
            smile 28 March 2014 14: 19
            +2
            Tirpitz
            But what about political information? Are they without her? :)))
            1. Tirpitz
              Tirpitz 28 March 2014 14: 32
              +7
              Propaganda that there is no wild enemy in the east. They just collected it by order of Kiev and do not know what to do with the militia now. "Pan Ataman has no gold reserves" from the movie "Wedding in Malinovka"
              1. smile
                smile 28 March 2014 16: 59
                +1
                Tirpitz
                Well, at least it's good. So your warriors are mostly sane.
                1. Tirpitz
                  Tirpitz 28 March 2014 17: 16
                  +3
                  Of course sane. The fact that your TV show is not quite so. many draftees are not at all eager to fight for the egg and co. change some oligarchs to others.
                  1. smile
                    smile 28 March 2014 18: 14
                    +2
                    Tirpitz
                    No-no-no, no need to slander our media. Nobody here says that you have everything bad there. Individuals. of course, they make fun of - but it is always impeccably justified - with the help of commercials with their own statements and statements. :))) And towards the Ukrainian military, even those who returned from Crimea to Ukraine, the attitude is emphasized respectful and sympathetic. Corresponding orders for respect for Ukrainian symbols were even given. replaced in the Crimea with the Russian one.
                    I must say that our media pleasantly surprised me with this - ours did not slip to the degree of degradation, which, unfortunately, is shown by the media controlled by the junta that has seized power in Ukraine now. We are watching Ukrainian media broadcasts ... we have the opportunity to compare ... some kind of craziness, honestly ... forgive me for the harshness.
                    Well, and the fact that your military retained sanity, hopefully, will help them to curb the bloodthirsty "civilized" self-appointed leaders.
                    1. allexx83
                      allexx83 29 March 2014 01: 01
                      -1
                      If you want to get a real picture of what is happening, divide what is said in Russian news by two, and in Ukrainian news by FOUR. Warriors and those who served in the urgent army are not eager to fight. And many "volunteers" (mostly not serving) are deranged people, they should not be given weapons in their hands in principle.
                      1. smile
                        smile 29 March 2014 05: 46
                        +1
                        allexx83
                        Sorry, but the minus is mine. The fact is that in all cases without exception of a negative assessment of your certain figures, our central mass media right now always ... I repeat - always - refer to the statements of the defendants and video evidence. Moreover, the identity of the rollers is incontrovertible, see, others do not use ... such a whip. Therefore, it is sometimes worthwhile to abandon the habit without checking in advance to blame everything that comes from the media. I repeat - in this case, ours worked for the first time - honestly and convincingly. Not a single duck. We haven’t had this before. I'm not talking about the fact that so honestly no one works anywhere, neither for you, nor in Europe. I myself did not expect such certainty from our own media ... I’m not used to it (although I’m used to the fact that your media in Europe are already so much bigger than ours). But there are no complaints. I repeat, we always have the opportunity to compare with what is being said about you and ours .... I'm not talking about the fact that through one we have Ukrainian relatives ... they are not silent ... we can compare. ..so do not touch our media in this case, but divide your own by thirty-two .... :))))
                        And about your mobilized .... it’s very good that they don’t want to fight with us. this gives us a chance to avoid the meat grinder. The chance is that if we have to destroy those who attacked us, those who prevent you from living yourself, for example, the Nazis .... although, of course, we would like you to grind them there yourself ... :)))
                        And I am glad that your normal warriors are not eager to fight ... even conscripts .... God bless you, the thought arises - maybe it would be better for you and for us if the military would take power in Ukraine? In any case, they would not have given free rein to civilians, who are often much more bloodthirsty than those whose profession is to defend their homeland?
                        Frankly, for me a mystery. why are civilians - they always advocate the bloodiest way to solve any problem than even the warriors most accustomed to blood .... a strange tendency - the further a politician is from service, the more militant he is .... Such a crap ... :))) )
    3. Maxim90
      Maxim90 28 March 2014 15: 39
      0
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yKxSWgfADY
  2. Horst78
    Horst78 28 March 2014 07: 59
    +10
    I completely agree with the inscription on the poster.
  3. Dezinto
    Dezinto 28 March 2014 08: 01
    +13
    as I said, well, I just can’t add anything new until - Ukrainians are not friends with something, they are stubbornly not friends, are not friends, neither are they friends with their government, nor are they friends with neighbors! rare ....., well, the truth is surprisingly they were given some space, they were given gas discounts, they said choose who you want and we will have a dialogue with everyone! So what do we have ?? Just awesome stupidity !!
    1. Alekseev
      Alekseev 28 March 2014 08: 34
      +6
      Quote: DEZINTO
      for now - Ukrainians are not friends with something, stubbornly are not friends

      No, on the contrary, many, true, are friends.
      There are no crowds besieging military commissariats ...
      It is in various forums that many "do not spare their belly" (and language), demonstrate a lack of understanding of any arguments and logic, and in relation to mobilization, the opposite is true: they understand perfectly well that this is a hazardous matter to health, useless and even completely harmful and unnecessary.yes
    2. ran nearby
      ran nearby 28 March 2014 12: 03
      +5
      Well, let’s not ALL citizens of Ukraine write down adyi without exception. We are not maydaunas - throw bricks at opponents. We have no time, we work. And we do not need to mobilize - again, families need to be fed.
      Let's wait until the right-wingers with the cops and the National Guard = self-defense of the Maidan will shoot each other. We then need to get our hands dirty
      1. Alecto
        Alecto 28 March 2014 13: 23
        +2
        Not a bad thought, by the way. :)) Only while they bite each other in Ukraine can such a chaos begin, under the name - a humanitarian catastrophe, that it is no longer the money of the European Union or Russia that will be needed, but stupid soap, kerosene, flour and matches.
      2. I think so
        I think so April 1 2014 00: 27
        0
        The policy "my hut is on the edge" usually leads to the fact that in this house on the edge, in the first place, BADGE comes! Yes, then it's too late then to whine "and we thought they would shoot each other" ... Wait, dear, wait and it turns out that "families need to be fed" will not be needed ... there will be no family ... the bandits will entice you into such a meat grinder, your hair will stand on end ... and you will not get out ...
  4. mamont5
    mamont5 28 March 2014 08: 13
    +5
    What power - such an army!
    1. serega.fedotov
      serega.fedotov 28 March 2014 14: 58
      +1
      Rather, it’s not an army, but such a policy of combating unemployment.
  5. Name
    Name 28 March 2014 08: 17
    +11
    What kind of mobilization can we talk about if the Ukrainian Armed Forces are in such a deplorable state that these "forces" do not need enemies either ... Quote:A woman called the editorial office of "Mariupol Novosti" and, sobbing, said that she was the mother of two sons and could not watch the soldiers faint from hungry fainting. In addition, they do not have drinking water. The villagers helped in any way they could. They watered and fed the servicemen, the contingent of which consists mainly of 18-20-year-old children. But there is no need to tell how they live in Ukrainian villages. They live poorly. And even the most compassionate cannot feed the army of healthy young foreheads three times a day. Moreover, not a day or two, but weeks.-so what kind of war is there, someone would feed ... Without irony and sarcasm. recourse
    see http://www.nakanune.ru/articles/18816/
    1. Master_Lviv
      Master_Lviv 28 March 2014 14: 50
      +4
      In Lviv, there are more or less mobilized, near the military registration and enlistment office and inside the people there were about 300 people, before being sent to the assembly point. But their mood, to put it mildly, is not at all fighting. Most people are not corny ready to serve, neither morally, nor physically, nor materially. Many have unofficial work, care for which, and no one compensates for their lost wages, young children, for whom there is simply no one to look after, in short, people do not want to serve even here.
      1. biglow
        biglow 28 March 2014 18: 20
        0
        Quote: Master_Lviv
        In Lviv, there are more or less mobilized, near the military registration and enlistment office and inside the people there were about 300 people, before being sent to the assembly point. But their mood, to put it mildly, is not at all fighting. Most people are not corny ready to serve, neither morally, nor physically, nor materially. Many have unofficial work, care for which, and no one compensates for their lost wages, young children, for whom there is simply no one to look after, in short, people do not want to serve even here.

        this is because all combat-ready are already in Kiev or on earnings ....
  6. Alexgs
    Alexgs 28 March 2014 08: 18
    +2
    You look, in a year or two we will get a fully combat-ready and well-trained and patriotic army


    Under the table .... The author very vaguely imagines how army units are created. In the case of Ukraine, everything must be created from scratch. I doubt that such a task is generally possible, even for countries with a strong economy, I am silent about the poor Ukrainian people.
    1. Orc-xnumx
      Orc-xnumx 28 March 2014 10: 11
      +3
      Quote: AlexGS


      Quote: AlexGS
      You look, in a year or two we will get a fully combat-ready and well-trained and patriotic army


      Under the table .... The author very vaguely imagines how army units are created. In the case of Ukraine, everything must be created from scratch. I doubt that such a task is generally possible, even for countries with a strong economy, I am silent about the poor Ukrainian people.

      Not from scratch, but even from a minus!
    2. allexx83
      allexx83 29 March 2014 01: 06
      0
      Kolomoisky has enough money for his own aircraft. He will not refuse additional cannon fodder.
  7. parusnik
    parusnik 28 March 2014 09: 11
    +8
    Gangs are being created .. but not armed groups ... they will soon be cutting each other ..
    1. Tihonoff
      Tihonoff 28 March 2014 12: 15
      +13
      It also seems to me that they in real life want to be cut down there in Stalker - groups create: Freedom, Blow, Right Sector ... artifacts will go to the fields to collect in the form of edible products ... yes, they will shoot mutants ... It's a shame that in the role we turned out to be mutants - Russians ...
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 28 March 2014 15: 05
        +1
        Quote: Tihonoff
        It also seems to me that they in real life want to be cut down there in Stalker - groups create: Freedom, Blow, Right Sector ... artifacts will go to the fields to collect in the form of edible products ... yes, they will shoot mutants ... It's a shame that in the role we turned out to be mutants - Russians ...

        You probably don’t know, in Stalker, mutants always win, only one person survives in the novel - the main character, people don’t pull on the heroes.
  8. Colorman
    Colorman 28 March 2014 09: 19
    +3
    Damn, do they really have sensible officers in the army?
    We would go to Kiev to restore the constitutional order, we would immediately have found money for the army and the radicals sent ...
    1. Az_esm
      Az_esm 28 March 2014 09: 42
      +6
      I would not be surprised at all if such officers were threatened with the fate of their families, so they would not rock the boat. Yes, and brainwashing ...
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 28 March 2014 09: 54
      +7
      Quote: COLORMAN
      do they really have no sensible officers in the army?

      If there is, then minuscule !!! Where do they come from? Almost all military schools were closed! From the old, who were at the beginning of the "nezalezhnosti", so there the contingent was not the best, and they were already piled on retirement! There are, of course, normal and knowledgeable, but I say again - MIZER !!!
    3. biglow
      biglow 28 March 2014 18: 21
      0
      Quote: COLORMAN
      Damn, do they really have sensible officers in the army?
      We would go to Kiev to restore the constitutional order, we would immediately have found money for the army and the radicals sent ...

      when 20 years everyone was falling apart, all sensible officers were already retired
  9. Gray 43
    Gray 43 28 March 2014 09: 27
    +8
    God forbid, they will start selling weapons from army warehouses, then any quarrel will end in a fierce firefight, so they will reach the expansion of the assortment — RPGs and MANPADS are also secretly impossible to carry, in a word, the Wild West, however, seems to pull Ukraine to the West seems maydaunov Golden eagle well put on a birdhouse!
  10. zadorin1974
    zadorin1974 28 March 2014 09: 35
    +2
    So the gangs have already formed. Each governor has his own private security companies that will be used as private armies of specific regions (both inter-regional disassemblies and internal pacification) And voluntary regiments are simply Volksturm, so they will reach the hitlergen.
  11. zadorin1974
    zadorin1974 28 March 2014 09: 37
    +27
    it will look something like this
    1. Danilka
      Danilka 28 March 2014 12: 16
      +7
      How can you compare the Maydan with the stern legionnaires? laughing
  12. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 28 March 2014 09: 41
    +9
    Old Man Angel with envy in a coffin spins - rob anyone you want and everything is by law!
  13. Orc-xnumx
    Orc-xnumx 28 March 2014 09: 48
    +4
    You read the next article, and the impression of mass madness in the Kiev authorities!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 28 March 2014 09: 57
      +8
      Quote: Orc-78
      the impression of mass craziness in the Kiev government!

      This is not crazy! This is just complete incompetence with diplomas and even scientific degrees! Again, talking and yelling on the Maidan is one thing, but really WORKING, and even for the COUNTRY, FOR THE PEOPLE, is not for them! The main thing is not to miss your pocket! That's the whole "idea"!
  14. amigo1969
    amigo1969 28 March 2014 10: 04
    +6
    ... It seems that an epidemic of madness has taken place in Ukraine .. Moreover, the new authorities are suffering from its most severe form ... With one hand they are trying to take away weapons from the Right Sector, with the other they are trying to sell them "cheaply" !!!! To say that these are Makhnovists is to compliment them. Makhno was a talented organizer and leader (ideas and goals were lame). But Old Man Angel - the very thing .... !!!! The comic image of this weirdo was embodied in all the maydanuts .... Ukraine. Twilight 2.0 fool
    1. rereture
      rereture 28 March 2014 23: 33
      0
      That's right, select and then sell laughing
      It is necessary to completely clear the population smile
  15. kafa
    kafa 28 March 2014 10: 40
    +2
    poor "tire" troops under the command of the maydan intimidate the globe belay a world in danger of destruction
  16. Tulip
    Tulip 28 March 2014 10: 48
    +3
    The regiment is a voluntary formation. At its base, a unit of reservists of the type of the Israel Defense Forces will be created later.

    The army from this rabble will not work. Warrior is a special psychological education. The army is when every soldier realizes himself as part of a single whole in the composition of a military formation and the fulfillment of the tasks assigned to the unit above all else. And sadly, the most effective method of such education is drill training. And from this kodla a good gang will turn out, wild and unprincipled.
    However, our "Progressors" from the State Department do not need an army in Ukraine, the army will quickly restore order, but such gangs are needed to unleash a full-scale civil war.
    1. Alecto
      Alecto 28 March 2014 13: 37
      +2
      Well, in vain. Wants Taruta or Kolomoisky to create "self-defense regiments" with their own money. And on health, you have to go to arm and train, and then ... "Yes, live independent or federal Donbass." And for sponsors - a good one and take them to the garbage city London. They accept any rabble, the whole question is in the price of stay.
      1. I think so
        I think so April 1 2014 00: 41
        0
        It won’t work out - they’ll brainwash all of this so that they still don’t understand anything, and then they’ll be completely insane ... Remember the Chechen wars, remember even the Nazis ... What is happening now in Ukraine is very, very DANGEROUS for Russia and the whole Russian world. A generation of BATTLED ENEMIES is being formed. And they can no longer be CONVENIENT they can only be consumed. And this rabble PREHIT TO Russia!
  17. Sochi
    Sochi 28 March 2014 10: 50
    +3
    Hmm, those who see the brains have already fallen, or are sitting quietly unwilling to participate in this. But morons and scum of all stripes, like cockroaches, climbed out of all the cracks and are eager to manage and command ... the same morons. What will come of it? FIG knows him, but the fact that there is nothing good is unequivocal. It is a pity for those ordinary people who fall under this rink, and will suffer for the interests of all this scum. Lord Why did you punish Ukraine? Why deprived the mind of people?
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 28 March 2014 11: 50
      +3
      Quote: Sochi
      those who have already seen dumped their brains, or are sitting quietly unwilling to participate in this

      Those who do not want to participate in this quietly pay the "fine" and do not go, even if the summons has arrived! The mountain-a-a-great is cheaper! laughing
      By the way, exactly the same picture was in Odessa. The people were gathered, and the commander said: "There is nothing to feed, nothing to sleep on! And you go home!" And let's go, it's good for those who themselves from Odessa - they got home by minibuses, but the rest, like in nearby villages, settled down! Mobilizers ...... !!!!
  18. Ulyan
    Ulyan 28 March 2014 11: 10
    +3
    Ukraine, the evening, tracers that walk wonderfully along the city streets ... Friday, people have a rest .....
  19. Andrey L
    Andrey L 28 March 2014 11: 21
    +5
    Nothing, nothing ... Soon the National Guard Wheelchair Teams will begin to create. The call is compulsory. Food is pasture. Transport is yours. Armament - pitchfork, rake. Ammunition - not required. The goal - well, no one will offend them .. And to strengthen - the latest development of the local military industry wassat
  20. Leshka
    Leshka 28 March 2014 11: 47
    +2
    so they only finish the economy to the end and that's it fool
  21. stillrat
    stillrat 28 March 2014 12: 45
    0
    The author is ironic in vain. In this situation in Ukraine, the presence of a trunk is not a bliss but a vital necessity. Simple people with complete police inaction were left alone with the gangs of marauders. And the situation is likely to only worsen, the economy is out now the remnants of the old luxury will be consumed further worse, the ninth wave of crime will cover Ukraine. So the proposal of the arms owners association to issue AKMs to the population is an attempt to at least somehow defuse the situation and help ordinary people survive in that situation.
    By the way, the example of Crimea is very indicative, it was worth distributing AKMs to ordinary citizens as soon as the level crime rate decreased by a third!
  22. Navy7981
    Navy7981 28 March 2014 12: 54
    +2
    Now the guys from the east need to mobilize en masse! Massively! A real chance to get weapons in your hands, what kind of training and to have the opportunity and the chance to tear up all sorts of "National Defense Regiments" and other "true Aryans"
  23. Prutkov
    Prutkov 28 March 2014 12: 58
    +4
    In general, interesting details were revealed during the mobilization. I think that Russia has similar problems.
    1. A large number of female military personnel, even in units of constant readiness, which, when brought to full military status, must be dismissed and, accordingly, called up for new people from a citizen.
    2. According to the Labor Code, the workplace is not saved for the conscript. Therefore, they are not willing to join the army. Yes, and private entrepreneurs without much joy let their workers go.
    From here, a number of conclusions can be drawn.
    1. Women in the army do not belong.
    2. It is necessary to develop a system for serving in the reserve by former officers, retired warrant officers, in the posts of soldiers, sergeants in units staffed exclusively by officers and warrant officers. Moreover, people should undergo periodic training directly in those very units and on the technique on which, if anything, they go into battle. The surcharge for the service in the reserve should be such that people have an incentive to be in the reserve and be ready that they can be called at any time.
    In Ukraine, there is a training program for reservists. But paying for a stay in the reserve makes this program impossible.
    1. Alecto
      Alecto 28 March 2014 13: 59
      -5
      I was especially touched by the conclusion No. 1 "there is no place for women in the army." Let's start with the fact that in a normal society there should be no place for anyone in the army. Women should give birth to children, guard the house and cherish their beloved husbands. And the men? That's right - work, work and work. And only where there is no normal work, there is nothing and it is scary to give birth to children, there are armies. And the larger the scale of the collapse in the country, the larger its army becomes.
      1. Patton5
        Patton5 28 March 2014 16: 50
        +2
        Cover your head comrade! And then the spring sun is clearly not in your favor!
  24. Sashko07
    Sashko07 28 March 2014 13: 25
    +1
    if you need to fight with someone, then first of all you need to have hatred of the enemy, and what hatred can be for Russians in Ukrainians half of which are either Russians themselves, or have Russian roots.
    1. smile
      smile 28 March 2014 14: 45
      +3
      Sashko07
      Unfortunately, a quarter of a century of independent propaganda was not in vain. You also have those who hate us enough for a war. Look at the Maydauns, at their cries about "glory to heroes", at the videos from Kiev, capital schools, where 14-year-olds, under the guidance of teachers, are happily chanting "Bandera come, put things in order" ... I'm not talking about "m .. lay on the knives "... Yes, and your media now carry this ....
      So that not everything is good, as you say ....
      But, fortunately, you still have far fewer banderlogs than normal Ukrainians. And now, what the future of Ukraine depends on the normal Ukrainians.
      By the way, you have a good profile picture. :))) It is strange that with such moods you have gray epaulets.
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 28 March 2014 15: 53
        +1
        Quote: smile
        Unfortunately, a quarter century of independent propaganda was not in vain.

        Welcome smile! How glad I am to greet you Tramp on the site wassat
        Especially SUBJECT...

        Well, now, to your thesis on propaganda:
        So it is, and this evil continues to spread even to the southeast under the pressure of the admin resource.

        And if everything leaves "there is" - we will get a crazy enemy in 10 - 15 years ... But we need IT ???
        I think SO including from "selfish interest", Ukraine is not alien to me ...
        1. smile
          smile 28 March 2014 17: 03
          0
          Corsair
          Great boules! :)))
          I am also pleased to see your pirate letters! :)))

          Yes, I agree. I think so too. And I have exactly the same "selfish interest" there. Only premonitions about the future are not very good ...: (((
  25. thrower
    thrower 28 March 2014 13: 41
    +3
    "Jewish Cossacks revolted" wassat

  26. w2000
    w2000 28 March 2014 14: 29
    -1
    That’s who the Russian special services need to eliminate: Kolomoisky, Taruta and other oligarch governors. And the junta in Kiev will bite each other.
  27. Sibiryak13
    Sibiryak13 28 March 2014 14: 39
    0
    Arrived. They will distribute weapons to the people and that’s all. Walk the flaw from the ruble and above. New chieftains will appear and begin to impose independence on each village.
  28. xomaNN
    xomaNN 28 March 2014 14: 48
    0
    Further escalating anti-Russian hysteria and driving several thousand men into scanty grub barracks for mobilization, the neo-Makhnovists of the Kiev authorities want to remove the active protest electorate from the city streets. After a sharp increase in prices was announced in the housing and utilities sector and cuts in the salaries of state employees, the very current bonuses for themselves are afraid smile
    1. Maxim90
      Maxim90 28 March 2014 15: 41
      0
  29. capex1
    capex1 28 March 2014 15: 05
    +1
    When the dives in the Parliament cease to be mocked at the people ?! How this bullshit bullied, is the third mobilization! They would all be mobilized there in the Rada, toppled out of the country, to develop the Arctic. Do they still not understand that everything is going to that if they do not do it themselves, then soon the people will endure them on the forks.
    1. Maxim90
      Maxim90 28 March 2014 15: 40
      0
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yKxSWgfADY
  30. Kus Imak
    Kus Imak 28 March 2014 15: 31
    +1
    That's interesting. Without that, not to remember the Jews, Israel, the IDF, you Slavs, you can’t solve your dismantlings in any way? It’s funny. Like adults, and such complexes in front of the Jews.
    1. svp67
      svp67 28 March 2014 16: 36
      0
      Quote: Kus Imac
      That's interesting. Without that, not to remember the Jews, Israel, the IDF, you Slavs, you can’t solve your dismantlings in any way? It’s funny. Like adults, and such complexes in front of the Jews.
      Complexes - NOT ANYTHING. But WHY does an Israeli army officer climb into Slavic affairs?
      1. Kus Imak
        Kus Imak 28 March 2014 17: 38
        +3
        no idea hto is this at all? I can hardly believe that the clown in the interview was once an officer of the Tsakhal. according to his grips and smirks, he is not threatened by a cook or a fuel truck driver. the fact is that about 5% of native Israelis are selected for officer courses. getting there for a "Russian" is incomparably more difficult. it is even more difficult to complete the officer's course. as a result of endless "selection" the dropout rate is 25-30%. a person who has completed this course is unlikely to trumpet that he is an officer at all angles. if he does not stay in the army, then upon leaving, he can easily find a good job in civilian life; protectionism in the provision of jobs is applied to the military. asks for a fig after a person has hardly gone through such a difficult course, to leave Israel for a country with a lower standard of living and take part there in fact in hostilities
        ... I don’t know, it’s very hard for me to believe that this clown was an Israeli officer. in my opinion, he has little resemblance to an Israeli. we have an accent here, and this gentleman speaks like a Ukrainian, not like an Israeli. in my opinion a Jew, especially an Israeli, has nothing to do in the society of Bandera. In our country, even the "Moroccans" (natives of North Africa) know that the Ukrainians were in the war more cruel than the Nazis.
    2. Setrac
      Setrac 28 March 2014 17: 14
      0
      Quote: Kus Imak
      That's interesting. Without that, not to remember the Jews, Israel, the IDF, you Slavs, you can’t solve your dismantlings in any way? It’s funny. Like adults, and such complexes in front of the Jews.

      Well, there they are, Jews, in Russia, that’s what we remember. We look through the prism of your actions, and if there were no Jews in Russia, we would look at you only through the sight of a sight.
      1. Kus Imak
        Kus Imak 28 March 2014 17: 47
        0
        Quote: Setrac

        Well, there they are, Jews, in Russia, that’s what we remember. We look through the prism of your actions, and if there were no Jews in Russia, we would look at you only through the sight of a sight.


        Am I supposed to start afraid in this place? Did you decide to plead with me?
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 29 March 2014 00: 30
          0
          Quote: Kus Imak
          Am I supposed to start afraid in this place? Did you decide to plead with me?

          At this point, you should have woken up a sense of humor, but what a nem of that nem.
          1. Kus Imak
            Kus Imak 29 March 2014 09: 31
            0
            good to you uncle. you will not drown in the hole.
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  31. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 28 March 2014 15: 33
    0
    The essence of the mobilization is forgotten - this is to take the worker from the machine (ideally) where he produces, say, 1g / h and make him a soldier where he consumes 4g / h
    1. Tihonoff
      Tihonoff 28 March 2014 23: 02
      0
      Just about - a seed crop on the nose, and they fool around with foolishness ... Would mobilize everyone on the fields with shovels and a rake chtoli ... Who are you going to fight with?
  32. Corsair
    Corsair 28 March 2014 15: 37
    0
    Quote: from article
    That's just about where today are the true enemies of Ukraine-no one was informed ...

    But here everything is just done with a "new revolu- tionary expediency" ...
    The brainwashing of the average man in order to form the image of Russia as an enemy is in full swing in the media.
    And we, in turn, oppose this VERY listlessly ...
  33. Black
    Black 28 March 2014 16: 12
    0
    I sympathize with the officer corps of Ukraine.
    God forbid anyone to be in their place.
    The 90s we also had no sugar ... but before the mobilization against the brothers did not reach ....
    1. RoTTor
      RoTTor 29 March 2014 02: 03
      -1
      I don’t sympathize. A whole generation is already approaching retirement, which did not serve in the real army, but served, "enduring hardships and hardships" ... in Ukraine - without combat training, without service.
      That's why they are trying to lure those who are already up to 55 - i.e. those who managed to serve back in the Soviet Army after normal Soviet military schools, and not branches of livestock colleges with a slight military bias.
  34. Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx 28 March 2014 16: 49
    0
    With complete collapse, this is a crazy idea. How it is necessary to "cheer up" the brains of the peasants, so that they go to very serious hardships for a meager salary, and even with a meager supply of used supplies. The same snipers need constant training.
  35. vovka
    vovka 28 March 2014 16: 56
    0
    It is necessary to mobilize and fight against the Alegharchs who use Ukraine and Russia as they want and how they will grab the eggs right by the hill. In this connection, I think Lenin was not such a bastard. The situation in the country was similar, i.e. to a few percent of the population everything in the country belongs
  36. Cristall
    Cristall 28 March 2014 19: 47
    +1
    I support the poster, only I completely support the opinion that this is a madhouse "Sunny"
    Kiev, you need to close, burn away ..
    Already many miss the tradition of the previous prezik (at times) ... tradition his mother ..
  37. santush
    santush 28 March 2014 20: 01
    0
    In Kiev !!!!!!!!
  38. gercog
    gercog 28 March 2014 21: 34
    +1
    I don’t understand, they shout at her from us and they are going to fight with weapons to her AKM-let them take their TRIP and fight them
    1. Passer
      Passer 28 March 2014 22: 38
      0
      Quote: gercog
      let them take their TRIED and fight them

      And a military catapult from the Maidan. laughing
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  39. vinik1996
    vinik1996 28 March 2014 23: 09
    +1
    Ukraine mobilized, mobilized, mobilized but not mobilized.
    in like fellow
  40. RoTTor
    RoTTor 29 March 2014 01: 43
    -2
    On the other hand, there are more "army generals" in the world per capita. Even without an army, but full benefits and payments - for life. One such Herneral with a cool speaking surname "Drizhchany", with a YUSCHENKY, did a little work as a Reichsfuehrer of their "safety" and was promoted to the highest rank directly from the rank and file untrained.
    There is no fleet, and admirals - three in each buoy.
    And all this bastard - short-term American training.
  41. lexx2038
    lexx2038 29 March 2014 04: 49
    0
    "" Of course, for a volunteer, the level of material well-being, it seems, should not be decisive; decisive should be the desire to stand up for their homeland ""

    Well, for Russians, maybe it’s decisive, but not for garrison boys, we swam, we know!
  42. lexx2038
    lexx2038 29 March 2014 06: 01
    0
    Well, for the Russians, maybe this is NOT decisive, but not for the lads, we swam, we know!
    (I skipped NOT above, the whole point was distorted)
  43. galser
    galser 30 March 2014 00: 35
    0
    Opinion read: Vova! Don’t give Ukrainians money ever again, otherwise I won’t vote for you!

    The Russians did not take to the streets in defense of a single and indivisible Ukraine, not because they support Putin’s policies or we need Crimea !!!
    1) Ordinary Russians do not need your territory for nothing ...
    99.9% say that we already have a huge country (and we rest in Turkey-Egypt).
    2) the population of the Russian Federation is completely occupied with its internal life and, by the way, to say - it’s not politicized.
    3) if the Kremlin really needs Crimea, no one will ask you or us ...
    4) ordinary Russians do not care about Ukraine. Yes it is. Do not be mischievously surprised: why? you yourself are to blame. You have been guilty of all your life ... you might think it is in Russia stealing your gas, or spoiling the monuments of veterans, endless nationalist hysteria, etc.
    Reproaches and nasty things in the media temporarily stop only when regular discounts and loans are needed from the "brotherly" country. For 20 years of such an attitude towards my Motherland, the mention of your country in us causes nothing but contempt ... excuse me.
    ps Now the most important thing: Neither support, nor blame Putin’s policy is not going to. Although I understand with my soul: looting in the current conditions is the last thing.

    Read completely: http://h.ua/story/400333/#ixzz2xNxeeQ00
  44. temyr
    temyr April 20 2014 01: 18
    0
    where to look for the truth. What country are such laws. They write about mobilization that there are volunteers, but what about those who were called up? Now I will explain. So our military commissars are the first korupceonists whose pocket is wider than that is mobilized, and who has less money and for health, and the article of the necessary memory will be read, and they will also threaten that if they evade criminal responsibility. And what will they be for this? Who will be responsible when they take the only breadwinner from the family (when a person has a child under 3 years old, when he is the only one who brings family money because the wife does not work on maternity leave, when the wife has no parents - an orphan, when his parents are sick pensioners) and everyone still makes a helpless gesture. So who will be responsible if he is in the "army", something happen - who will feed the family, who will pay the loan because an apartment on a loan, who will raise his son to his feet. No one explains their rights in the military registration and enlistment offices, it is not profitable for them to fulfill the norm that is in the Law of Article 23 "On mobolization" such clauses that protect such conscripts, namely who is not subject to conscription, no matter what time, whether it is mobilization, or peacetime (because war is not declared) - other persons liable for military service in accordance with the current legislation; namely, the Law of Ukraine Article 30 "On military duties and rules" - are not subject - Persons liable for military service who have a child under 3 years old "why are these Laws violated? They write that military commissars call up those liable for military service, but what are you? We do this - a summons arrives on Saturday at 6 pm, and in the morning in Voskresensk you should already be standing with things in the military enlistment office So why should we fight for whom to defend? If our state does not think for their families, moreover, they took away all subsidies to young families. And even when you come to the military registration and enlistment office on Monday with your child (because he has nothing to do with) everyone references that say that he is the only breadwinner in the family, that the laws are being violated at you and the child is yelling without even looking at the certificates and saying that they will lose the war for people like us. in his office, and people like my husband, like many others like cannon fodder, hide behind. So where to look for the truth