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Croatia will finally get the MiG-21, repaired in Ukraine

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Representatives of the Croatian Ministry of Defense claimed that the current confusion in Ukraine "has nothing in common" with a five-month delay in the return of Croatian MiG-21-bis fighters, as well as simulators undergoing overhaul in Odessa, explaining this with "technical problems", reports Flightglobal portal.


Among such problems are the difficulties of integrating navigation and communication units from the Czech supplier CLS, as well as “converting a digital signal into an analog”.

The contract for 19,3 million dollars, signed by the Croatian side with Ukrspetseksport, involves the overhaul of 7 fighters, as well as the supply of 5 additional single-seater fighters, restored and upgraded in accordance with the requirements of the Croatian Air Force.

Assistant Minister of Defense and former Commander-in-Chief of the Croatian Air Force Viktor Koprivnyak reports that the repair of the first five aircraft was “completed, except for the problematic navigation units,” while the repair of two simulators was done “by about 95%”. A solution to the problem is believed to have already been found, which means that the first fighters may be returned in the coming weeks, a source in the Croatian armed forces said.

February 21 hosted the transfer of the first two Mi-8MTV / -17 transport helicopters that were repaired under a cooperation agreement between the repair base in Sevastopol, the Ukrainian company Motor Sich and the technical base in Velika Gorica in Croatia.
The second batch of four helicopters will have to go through the same process this year, but is unlikely to be sent to the same repair plant in the Crimea, due to the tension in this region, although the final decision will not be made within about two months.
Meanwhile, the Croatian Ministry of Defense has signed a contract for the training of 16 pilots from Oman. Each of them swoops 150 hours on Croatian Pilatus PC-9 training aircraft. Participation will also take two flight instructors from Oman, the training will be carried out at the Air Force Academy in the city of Zadar.
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  1. T-100
    T-100 27 March 2014 10: 45
    +9
    Mdaaa how many years the MiG-21 already lives, lives and carries out service)))
    1. Canep
      Canep 27 March 2014 11: 42
      +6
      For Kazakhstan, Ukraine repaired the AN-74. The result - the head of the border service broke up with the whole headquarters, and the people involved in this scam under investigation, the deputy head of the border service shot himself. I would like to wish good luck to the Croatian pilots, and advise to put things in order.
      1. platitsyn70
        platitsyn70 27 March 2014 12: 06
        0
        MiG-21bis-D-8pcs; MiG-21UMD-4pcs; An-32B-2pcs; Pilatus PC-9M-20pcs; other firewood from the cold war.
      2. FunkschNNX
        FunkschNNX 27 March 2014 12: 40
        +1
        In Kazakhstan, the 31st MiGar crashed, they said because of poor quality repairs, only the repairs in Russia were carried out :-( And that An seems to have collapsed due to icing, no?
        1. Canep
          Canep 27 March 2014 14: 30
          +1
          Quote: Фкенщь13
          sort of collapsed due to icing, no?
          Maybe because of icing, only he should not have iced up. Similar aircraft are operated in the Arctic and they do not crash there.
  2. itr
    itr 27 March 2014 10: 45
    +6
    Assistant Minister of Defense and former Commander-in-Chief of the Croatian Air Force Viktor Koprivnyak reports that the repair of the first five aircraft is “completed, with the exception of problematic navigation blocks this means that the painted planes just stick out some wires)))))))) maybe even extra
    1. bvi1965
      bvi1965 27 March 2014 10: 52
      +1
      It remains to trim and finish, get it
      1. Olegovi4
        Olegovi4 28 March 2014 01: 00
        0
        Quote: bvi1965
        slap and ready

        Well, what about the electrical tape?
    2. Orc-xnumx
      Orc-xnumx 27 March 2014 11: 17
      +2
      What kind of "modernization" is this? The navigation is digital, and the avionics are analog! It really looks like a "wave brush"!
    3. ARS56
      ARS56 27 March 2014 13: 40
      0
      If there are "difficulties in converting a digital signal to analog", then the Ukrainian repair shop can and should be closed due to complete disqualification.
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  3. Maxsh
    Maxsh 27 March 2014 10: 45
    +10
    They would have painted the rainbow in LGBT, damn it ... fool
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 March 2014 10: 50
      +7
      Quote: Maxsh
      They would have painted the rainbow in LGBT,

      Precisely, I didn’t see a worse coloring of the plane laughing
      1. biglow
        biglow 27 March 2014 18: 08
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Maxsh
        They would have painted the rainbow in LGBT,

        Precisely, I didn’t see a worse coloring of the plane laughing

        they painted the airplanes in the colors of their flag ... probably, it would be obvious that they also have airplanes ... laughing
    2. PN
      PN 27 March 2014 10: 57
      +8
      No need to equate natural rainbow colors with LGBT. And then I am ashamed to launch a kite with a child. I bought a small bright kite painted in the color of a rainbow and only looking at it in the sky I thought that it would be better if I chose another. sad otherwise people are now associating a rainbow with homosexuals.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 27 March 2014 11: 00
        +3
        Quote: PN
        a kite painted in the color of a rainbow and just looking at it in the sky thought that it would be better if he chose another.

        Soon the blue sky will be ashamed to be called because of them.
        1. Canep
          Canep 27 March 2014 11: 44
          +1
          Greetings to Alexander! hi In my opinion, the targets are also colored so that the debris is easier to find.
        2. Lone gunman
          Lone gunman 27 March 2014 21: 15
          0
          "Soon it will be a shame to call the sky blue because of them." - then call light blue))), initially blue is the color of a man, and pink is the color of a wife, even the LGBT community has a "rainbow" color, so the sky is blue, I have shirts and blue sky blue jeans and I'm not worried, but what bothers me is that my wife has nothing pink ... what
      2. Lissyara
        Lissyara 27 March 2014 11: 01
        +1
        And what? Nice color. Just right for a mental attack. The remaining four need to be dabbled in different colors, and circles, and polygons. Then you can definitely move your brains.
        Yes, I forgot. And an identification mark in the form of a buffoon.
        1. engineer74
          engineer74 27 March 2014 11: 11
          +2
          It's simple: the navigation does not work, so it was painted brighter, the Schaub was not lost! wink
      3. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 27 March 2014 11: 10
        +1
        Quote: PN
        people now associate a rainbow with homosexuals

        Seeing a rainbow somewhere, I begin to automatically count the colors on the machine. Even if I am sure that it has at least 7 colors.
        1. mountain
          mountain 27 March 2014 11: 20
          0
          But the ships, it’s something, they painted it halfway, the main flag was inserted and the paint was over. What they eat is what the Indians would like.
  4. rugor
    rugor 27 March 2014 10: 46
    +2
    The coloring is monstrous! Just a flying target. Why spoil the plane like that?
    1. svp67
      svp67 27 March 2014 10: 49
      +9
      Quote: rugor
      The coloring is monstrous! Just a flying target. Why spoil the plane like that?
      What would everyone see - in the air of the Croatian Air Force, all four planes ....
      1. Deniska
        Deniska 27 March 2014 10: 55
        +9
        Paint in a "rainbow" and cannot be knocked down - oppression of LGBT people wassat
    2. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 27 March 2014 11: 08
      +1
      Quote: rugor
      The coloring is monstrous! Just a flying target. Why spoil the plane like that?

      I understand that this is a training machine. Although, yes, I also immediately drew attention to the color.
      1. 0255
        0255 27 March 2014 13: 08
        0
        and under Stalin, the Yak-9 and Yak-15 aircraft were painted red, and nothing:


        Or the Yak-130, painted red in honor of the Yaks that flew under Stalin:

        We don’t call them p_dora!
        Although I also don’t like the red color No.
        1. vbatov
          vbatov 27 March 2014 14: 13
          +2
          there were red planes for demonstrations. in combat units, the aircraft were in camouflage or simply silver.
          1. 0255
            0255 27 March 2014 16: 15
            +1
            Quote: vbatov
            there were red planes for demonstrations. in combat units, the aircraft were in camouflage or simply silver.

            You're right! But maybe this MIG-21 after repair will also fly 2-3 times a year for demonstrations? All the same, the plane is old, it is not known how it deals with physical deterioration
  5. both s69
    both s69 27 March 2014 10: 49
    +2
    MiG - 21? This is what I understand: a real "long-liver" of the sky - almost 60 years have passed since its first take-off, and it is still being exploited!?! This is a real quality mark of Soviet engineering! This is the trick! good fellow hi
    1. svp67
      svp67 27 March 2014 11: 00
      +3
      Quote: both-with 69
      This is what I understand: a real "long-liver" of the sky - almost 60 years have passed since its first take-off, and it is still being exploited!?!

      And what can we say about this MiG ...
    2. 0255
      0255 27 March 2014 13: 13
      0
      Quote: both-with 69
      MiG - 21? This is what I understand: a real "long-liver" of the sky - almost 60 years have passed since its first take-off, and it is still being exploited!?! This is a real quality mark of Soviet engineering! This is the trick! good fellow hi

      Today, the presence of the MiG-21, as well as its American "peers" F-4 Phantom and F-5 Tiger, in the Air Force of any country speaks more about the fact that this country does not have the money for something more modern.
      1. supertiger21
        supertiger21 27 March 2014 14: 59
        0
        Quote: 0255
        Today, the presence of the MiG-21, as well as its American "peers" F-4 Phantom and F-5 Tiger, in the Air Force of any country speaks more about the fact that this country does not have the money for something more modern.


        I categorically support this point of view. The same Iran continues to use the old F-5 and F-4, because. it is sanctioned and it’s forbidden to buy what is more modern. Well, I don’t understand Croatia, it’s as if you could raise a budget for the purchase of new fighters, but they are only modernizing it.
  6. svp67
    svp67 27 March 2014 10: 50
    +3
    February 21 hosted the transfer of the first two Mi-8MTV / -17 transport helicopters that were repaired under a cooperation agreement between the repair base in Sevastopol, the Ukrainian company Motor Sich and the technical base in Velika Gorica in Croatia.
    The second batch of four helicopters will have to go through the same process this year, but is unlikely to be sent to the same repair plant in the Crimea, due to the tension in this region, although the final decision will not be made within about two months.
    That is, a contract under the threat of disruption?
  7. KAPITANUS
    KAPITANUS 27 March 2014 10: 50
    +2
    Like a taxi ..
  8. Afinogen
    Afinogen 27 March 2014 10: 51
    0
    They still fly, they need to go to the museum. laughing
  9. Sergey Trifonov
    Sergey Trifonov 27 March 2014 10: 53
    +1
    According to aviation experts, when installing modern avionics on the MiG-21 glider and replacing the engine, the aircraft will compete with the 4th generation of fighters.
    1. Fiero
      Fiero 27 March 2014 13: 40
      0
      Doubtfully, this is not a MiG-27
    2. supertiger21
      supertiger21 27 March 2014 15: 10
      0
      Quote: Sergey Trifonov
      According to aviation experts, when installing modern avionics on the MiG-21 glider and replacing the engine, the aircraft will compete with the 4th generation of fighters.


      Despite the fact that the MiG-21 is a wonderful fighter of its time, such a statement is nothing more than empty words. To "compete" with the fourth generation of the 21st, at least you need a greatly modified and enlarged airframe. In addition, high-thrust by-pass engines are needed. which are too large for a light MiG. In other words, it will no longer be a MiG-21, but a completely different aircraft. But similar in the history of aviation, contrary to what has been said above, has already happened. For example, the F / A-18 has a distant ancestor that appeared back in 1959, which is F-5. Thus, "deep metamorphosis" (mind you, not modernization) can give life to aircraft for decades to come.
  10. bvi1965
    bvi1965 27 March 2014 10: 55
    +1
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: rugor
    The coloring is monstrous! Just a flying target. Why spoil the plane like that?
    What would everyone see - in the air of the Croatian Air Force, all four planes ....


    That their own would not beat each other
  11. sanek0207
    sanek0207 27 March 2014 11: 00
    0
    These are Croats! They are close to the ideas of geyevropy imbued, and now even planes paint in unexpected ways!
    1. SkiF_RnD
      SkiF_RnD 27 March 2014 11: 28
      0
      All the same, this is their flag. smile
  12. awg75
    awg75 27 March 2014 11: 00
    +2
    I would not advise them to fly on this ...
    1. 0255
      0255 27 March 2014 13: 15
      +1
      Quote: awg75
      I would not advise them to fly on this ...

      so this is probably all that went to the Croats from the Yugoslav Air Force. And they don’t have money for any F-16.
  13. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 27 March 2014 11: 01
    +1
    And what - the color in accordance with the coat of arms! (on the tail)
    HA! Chess players by your foot!
  14. Chifka
    Chifka 27 March 2014 11: 01
    +1
    "Finally it will, although it was handed over for repairs back in 1975 ..." Croatia podiko is not yet aware that since that time MIG has released more modern aircraft models .... It is necessary to check these moments, by the way, carefully for cracks.
  15. Aser
    Aser 27 March 2014 11: 04
    +1
    And are they also on combat duty in Croatia? Gagarin also flew them.
  16. kopar
    kopar 27 March 2014 11: 06
    +3
    Did instructors from Oman pay attention? That is, in Ukraine there are no pilots with professional training?
  17. Gagarin
    Gagarin 27 March 2014 11: 06
    +5
    Ukraine 21st MiG stupidly removes, paints and sells from pedestals.
  18. Hort
    Hort 27 March 2014 11: 09
    +3
    that's what a successful car means - still fly
  19. bender8282
    bender8282 27 March 2014 11: 22
    +1
    Quote: hort
    that's what a successful car means - still fly




    it’s good that it’s not in our air force! I want to see him now on a pedestal, or in a museum .. but not in the sky!
  20. Gagarin
    Gagarin 27 March 2014 11: 22
    +4
    Connoisseurs, if I am wrong, will correct, it seems the MiG-21 is the most massive fighter in the world!
    1. 0255
      0255 27 March 2014 13: 21
      +1
      Quote: Gagarin
      Connoisseurs, if I am wrong, will correct, it seems the MiG-21 is the most massive fighter in the world!

      More than 21 thousand MiG-11s were produced, of which 10 thousand were produced in the USSR. Plus, more than 2500 Chinese versions of the "twenty-first" - J-7 were produced. It seems that J-7 is still in production.
      1. supertiger21
        supertiger21 27 March 2014 15: 16
        +1
        Quote: 0255
        More than 21 thousand MiG-11s were produced, of which 10 thousand were produced in the USSR. Plus, more than 2500 Chinese versions of the "twenty-first" - J-7 were produced. It seems that J-7 is still in production.


        I agree! Among the supersonic fighters, the MiG-21 is the most massive, and they usually produced it more than all American counterparts of that time combined (!!!).A among jet fighters in general, the most massive is the MiG-15.
  21. capex1
    capex1 27 March 2014 11: 29
    +1
    And the Croats know what year is now Coca ?! I don’t argue that our twinks will last another 15 years, but why invest money in what is basically useless in the modern world - I think the Croats do not think to frighten even modernized adversaries with their twinks.
  22. pensioner
    pensioner 27 March 2014 12: 09
    +2
    Croatia will finally get the MiG-21, repaired in Ukraine

    what In this situation, you don’t even know what to do: either congratulate the Croats, or condole yourself in advance ...
  23. Orik
    Orik 27 March 2014 12: 51
    +1
    According to the coloring of the plane, I thought that the target ...
  24. Crazyzyear
    Crazyzyear 27 March 2014 12: 59
    +2
    Guys, take your deeply upgraded fighters. Unfortunately, there is no space left for the navigation blocks, but they were a little leveled with files !!! what
  25. Sevastopol
    Sevastopol 27 March 2014 13: 09
    +1
    It's good that not "Farman" or "Newport" during the First World War!
  26. wizarden
    wizarden 27 March 2014 13: 17
    +1
    I do not understand the meaning of the modernization of these museum exhibits. Well, they would have leased a used MiG-29 from Poland, the same money would have come out.
  27. darksoul
    darksoul 27 March 2014 13: 47
    +1
    Among such problems are the difficulties of integrating navigation and communication units from the Czech supplier CLS, as well as “converting a digital signal into an analog”.

    As a car lover, I’ll say differently. Why shove a strong engine into a penny 350 if aerodynamics does not allow it, it will fall apart. I am on the skyline when for 200 food it’s not so scary for my life as on a working cop. laughing
  28. sv68
    sv68 27 March 2014 15: 06
    0
    To see Harvats, we need somolts on a prince-so that they were. And they will fly on them on great holidays laughing
  29. kelevra
    kelevra 27 March 2014 15: 24
    0
    Do Croats really have no money to buy a dozen MIGs from us than fly at such a rarity!
  30. supertiger21
    supertiger21 27 March 2014 15: 24
    0
    They upgrade because there is nothing to buy new fighters. It is not better to sell the 21st MiGs to some Papuans, and then add some money to buy the same (or smaller) number of modern fighters. The Swedish Saab Gripen would suit Croatia , if not a more powerful fighter. And the MiG-21, although it was a valiant warrior once, but has become outdated both technically, morally and physically - such an aircraft is no longer suitable for defense ... request
  31. Leshka
    Leshka 27 March 2014 17: 04
    0
    Mig-21 is more alive than all living soldier
  32. Shatea
    Shatea April 3 2014 12: 38
    0
    cool plane