Croatia will finally get the MiG-21, repaired in Ukraine

Representatives of the Croatian Ministry of Defense claimed that the current confusion in Ukraine "has nothing in common" with a five-month delay in the return of Croatian MiG-21-bis fighters, as well as simulators undergoing overhaul in Odessa, explaining this with "technical problems", reports Flightglobal portal.

Among such problems are the difficulties of integrating navigation and communication units from the Czech supplier CLS, as well as “converting a digital signal into an analog”.

The contract for 19,3 million dollars, signed by the Croatian side with Ukrspetseksport, involves the overhaul of 7 fighters, as well as the supply of 5 additional single-seater fighters, restored and upgraded in accordance with the requirements of the Croatian Air Force.

Assistant Minister of Defense and former Commander-in-Chief of the Croatian Air Force Viktor Koprivnyak reports that the repair of the first five aircraft was “completed, except for the problematic navigation units,” while the repair of two simulators was done “by about 95%”. A solution to the problem is believed to have already been found, which means that the first fighters may be returned in the coming weeks, a source in the Croatian armed forces said.

February 21 hosted the transfer of the first two Mi-8MTV / -17 transport helicopters that were repaired under a cooperation agreement between the repair base in Sevastopol, the Ukrainian company Motor Sich and the technical base in Velika Gorica in Croatia.
The second batch of four helicopters will have to go through the same process this year, but is unlikely to be sent to the same repair plant in the Crimea, due to the tension in this region, although the final decision will not be made within about two months.
Meanwhile, the Croatian Ministry of Defense has signed a contract for the training of 16 pilots from Oman. Each of them swoops 150 hours on Croatian Pilatus PC-9 training aircraft. Participation will also take two flight instructors from Oman, the training will be carried out at the Air Force Academy in the city of Zadar.

Comments

[T-100]

Mdaaa how many years the MiG-21 already lives, lives and carries out service)))

[Canep]

For Kazakhstan, Ukraine repaired the AN-74. The result - the head of the border service broke up with the whole headquarters, and the people involved in this scam under investigation, the deputy head of the border service shot himself. I would like to wish good luck to the Croatian pilots, and advise to put things in order.

[platitsyn70]

MiG-21bis-D-8pcs; MiG-21UMD-4pcs; An-32B-2pcs; Pilatus PC-9M-20pcs; other firewood from the cold war.

[FunkschNNX]

In Kazakhstan, the 31st MiGar crashed, they said because of poor quality repairs, only the repairs in Russia were carried out :-( And that An seems to have collapsed due to icing, no?

[Canep]

Quote: Фкенщь13

sort of collapsed due to icing, no?

Maybe because of icing, only he should not have iced up. Similar aircraft are operated in the Arctic and they do not crash there.

[itr]

Assistant Minister of Defense and former Commander-in-Chief of the Croatian Air Force Viktor Koprivnyak reports that the repair of the first five aircraft is “completed, with the exception of problematic navigation blocks this means that the painted planes just stick out some wires)))))))) maybe even extra

[bvi1965]

It remains to trim and finish, get it

[Olegovi4]

Quote: bvi1965

slap and ready

Well, what about the electrical tape?

[Orc-xnumx]

What kind of "modernization" is this? The navigation is digital, and the avionics are analog! It really looks like a "wave brush"!

[ARS56]

If there are "difficulties in converting a digital signal to analog", then the Ukrainian repair shop can and should be closed due to complete disqualification.

[Maxsh]

They would have painted the rainbow in LGBT, damn it ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Maxsh

They would have painted the rainbow in LGBT,

Precisely, I didn’t see a worse coloring of the plane

[biglow]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: Maxsh

They would have painted the rainbow in LGBT,

Precisely, I didn’t see a worse coloring of the plane

they painted the airplanes in the colors of their flag ... probably, it would be obvious that they also have airplanes ...

[PN]

No need to equate natural rainbow colors with LGBT. And then I am ashamed to launch a kite with a child. I bought a small bright kite painted in the color of a rainbow and only looking at it in the sky I thought that it would be better if I chose another. otherwise people are now associating a rainbow with homosexuals.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: PN

a kite painted in the color of a rainbow and just looking at it in the sky thought that it would be better if he chose another.

Soon the blue sky will be ashamed to be called because of them.

[Canep]

Greetings to Alexander! In my opinion, the targets are also colored so that the debris is easier to find.

[Lone gunman]

"Soon it will be a shame to call the sky blue because of them." - then call light blue))), initially blue is the color of a man, and pink is the color of a wife, even the LGBT community has a "rainbow" color, so the sky is blue, I have shirts and blue sky blue jeans and I'm not worried, but what bothers me is that my wife has nothing pink ...

[Lissyara]

And what? Nice color. Just right for a mental attack. The remaining four need to be dabbled in different colors, and circles, and polygons. Then you can definitely move your brains.
Yes, I forgot. And an identification mark in the form of a buffoon.

[engineer74]

It's simple: the navigation does not work, so it was painted brighter, the Schaub was not lost!

[Ezhaak]

Quote: PN

people now associate a rainbow with homosexuals

Seeing a rainbow somewhere, I begin to automatically count the colors on the machine. Even if I am sure that it has at least 7 colors.

[mountain]

But the ships, it’s something, they painted it halfway, the main flag was inserted and the paint was over. What they eat is what the Indians would like.

[rugor]

The coloring is monstrous! Just a flying target. Why spoil the plane like that?

[svp67]

Quote: rugor

The coloring is monstrous! Just a flying target. Why spoil the plane like that?

What would everyone see - in the air of the Croatian Air Force, all four planes ....

[Deniska]

Paint in a "rainbow" and cannot be knocked down - oppression of LGBT people

[Al_lexx]

Quote: rugor

The coloring is monstrous! Just a flying target. Why spoil the plane like that?

I understand that this is a training machine. Although, yes, I also immediately drew attention to the color.

[0255]

and under Stalin, the Yak-9 and Yak-15 aircraft were painted red, and nothing:


Or the Yak-130, painted red in honor of the Yaks that flew under Stalin:

We don’t call them p_dora!
Although I also don’t like the red color

[vbatov]

there were red planes for demonstrations. in combat units, the aircraft were in camouflage or simply silver.

[0255]

Quote: vbatov

there were red planes for demonstrations. in combat units, the aircraft were in camouflage or simply silver.

You're right! But maybe this MIG-21 after repair will also fly 2-3 times a year for demonstrations? All the same, the plane is old, it is not known how it deals with physical deterioration

[both s69]

MiG - 21? This is what I understand: a real "long-liver" of the sky - almost 60 years have passed since its first take-off, and it is still being exploited!?! This is a real quality mark of Soviet engineering! This is the trick!

[svp67]

Quote: both-with 69

This is what I understand: a real "long-liver" of the sky - almost 60 years have passed since its first take-off, and it is still being exploited!?!

And what can we say about this MiG ...

[0255]

Quote: both-with 69

MiG - 21? This is what I understand: a real "long-liver" of the sky - almost 60 years have passed since its first take-off, and it is still being exploited!?! This is a real quality mark of Soviet engineering! This is the trick!

Today, the presence of the MiG-21, as well as its American "peers" F-4 Phantom and F-5 Tiger, in the Air Force of any country speaks more about the fact that this country does not have the money for something more modern.

[supertiger21]

Quote: 0255

Today, the presence of the MiG-21, as well as its American "peers" F-4 Phantom and F-5 Tiger, in the Air Force of any country speaks more about the fact that this country does not have the money for something more modern.

I categorically support this point of view. The same Iran continues to use the old F-5 and F-4, because. it is sanctioned and it’s forbidden to buy what is more modern. Well, I don’t understand Croatia, it’s as if you could raise a budget for the purchase of new fighters, but they are only modernizing it.

[svp67]

February 21 hosted the transfer of the first two Mi-8MTV / -17 transport helicopters that were repaired under a cooperation agreement between the repair base in Sevastopol, the Ukrainian company Motor Sich and the technical base in Velika Gorica in Croatia.
The second batch of four helicopters will have to go through the same process this year, but is unlikely to be sent to the same repair plant in the Crimea, due to the tension in this region, although the final decision will not be made within about two months.

That is, a contract under the threat of disruption?

[KAPITANUS]

Like a taxi ..

[Afinogen]

They still fly, they need to go to the museum.

[Sergey Trifonov]

According to aviation experts, when installing modern avionics on the MiG-21 glider and replacing the engine, the aircraft will compete with the 4th generation of fighters.

[Fiero]

Doubtfully, this is not a MiG-27

[supertiger21]

Quote: Sergey Trifonov

According to aviation experts, when installing modern avionics on the MiG-21 glider and replacing the engine, the aircraft will compete with the 4th generation of fighters.

Despite the fact that the MiG-21 is a wonderful fighter of its time, such a statement is nothing more than empty words. To "compete" with the fourth generation of the 21st, at least you need a greatly modified and enlarged airframe. In addition, high-thrust by-pass engines are needed. which are too large for a light MiG. In other words, it will no longer be a MiG-21, but a completely different aircraft. But similar in the history of aviation, contrary to what has been said above, has already happened. For example, the F / A-18 has a distant ancestor that appeared back in 1959, which is F-5. Thus, "deep metamorphosis" (mind you, not modernization) can give life to aircraft for decades to come.

[bvi1965]

Quote: svp67

Quote: rugor

The coloring is monstrous! Just a flying target. Why spoil the plane like that?

What would everyone see - in the air of the Croatian Air Force, all four planes ....

That their own would not beat each other

[sanek0207]

These are Croats! They are close to the ideas of geyevropy imbued, and now even planes paint in unexpected ways!

[SkiF_RnD]

All the same, this is their flag.

[awg75]

I would not advise them to fly on this ...

[0255]

Quote: awg75

I would not advise them to fly on this ...

so this is probably all that went to the Croats from the Yugoslav Air Force. And they don’t have money for any F-16.

[Ruswolf]

And what - the color in accordance with the coat of arms! (on the tail)
HA! Chess players by your foot!

[Chifka]

"Finally it will, although it was handed over for repairs back in 1975 ..." Croatia podiko is not yet aware that since that time MIG has released more modern aircraft models .... It is necessary to check these moments, by the way, carefully for cracks.

[Aser]

And are they also on combat duty in Croatia? Gagarin also flew them.

[kopar]

Did instructors from Oman pay attention? That is, in Ukraine there are no pilots with professional training?

[Gagarin]

Ukraine 21st MiG stupidly removes, paints and sells from pedestals.

[Hort]

that's what a successful car means - still fly

[bender8282]

Quote: hort

that's what a successful car means - still fly

it’s good that it’s not in our air force! I want to see him now on a pedestal, or in a museum .. but not in the sky!

[Gagarin]

Connoisseurs, if I am wrong, will correct, it seems the MiG-21 is the most massive fighter in the world!

[0255]

Quote: Gagarin

Connoisseurs, if I am wrong, will correct, it seems the MiG-21 is the most massive fighter in the world!

More than 21 thousand MiG-11s were produced, of which 10 thousand were produced in the USSR. Plus, more than 2500 Chinese versions of the "twenty-first" - J-7 were produced. It seems that J-7 is still in production.

[supertiger21]

Quote: 0255

More than 21 thousand MiG-11s were produced, of which 10 thousand were produced in the USSR. Plus, more than 2500 Chinese versions of the "twenty-first" - J-7 were produced. It seems that J-7 is still in production.

I agree! Among the supersonic fighters, the MiG-21 is the most massive, and they usually produced it more than all American counterparts of that time combined (!!!).A among jet fighters in general, the most massive is the MiG-15.

[capex1]

And the Croats know what year is now Coca ?! I don’t argue that our twinks will last another 15 years, but why invest money in what is basically useless in the modern world - I think the Croats do not think to frighten even modernized adversaries with their twinks.

[pensioner]

Croatia will finally get the MiG-21, repaired in Ukraine

In this situation, you don’t even know what to do: either congratulate the Croats, or condole yourself in advance ...

[Orik]

According to the coloring of the plane, I thought that the target ...

[Crazyzyear]

Guys, take your deeply upgraded fighters. Unfortunately, there is no space left for the navigation blocks, but they were a little leveled with files !!!

[Sevastopol]

It's good that not "Farman" or "Newport" during the First World War!

[wizarden]

I do not understand the meaning of the modernization of these museum exhibits. Well, they would have leased a used MiG-29 from Poland, the same money would have come out.

[darksoul]

Among such problems are the difficulties of integrating navigation and communication units from the Czech supplier CLS, as well as “converting a digital signal into an analog”.

As a car lover, I’ll say differently. Why shove a strong engine into a penny 350 if aerodynamics does not allow it, it will fall apart. I am on the skyline when for 200 food it’s not so scary for my life as on a working cop.

[sv68]

To see Harvats, we need somolts on a prince-so that they were. And they will fly on them on great holidays

[kelevra]

Do Croats really have no money to buy a dozen MIGs from us than fly at such a rarity!

[supertiger21]

They upgrade because there is nothing to buy new fighters. It is not better to sell the 21st MiGs to some Papuans, and then add some money to buy the same (or smaller) number of modern fighters. The Swedish Saab Gripen would suit Croatia , if not a more powerful fighter. And the MiG-21, although it was a valiant warrior once, but has become outdated both technically, morally and physically - such an aircraft is no longer suitable for defense ...

[Leshka]

Mig-21 is more alive than all living

[Shatea]

cool plane