Russian Defense Ministry will return strategic bombers to Crimea

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At the air base in the Guards in 2016, the naval missile carrier regiment will be located. He is armed with long-range Tu-22М3 bombers. To this end, Russia is seriously modernizing the infrastructure of the Crimean airfields.


“We expect that in two years the rocket-carrying regiment will be based again on the Tu-22М3 air base,” a source in the Russian Defense Ministry told Interfax-AVN.


“Here will appear the necessary and sufficient number of sea-launched missile carriers. The need for them in the southern direction has always been, but right now there are suitable conditions for their return to the peninsula, which used to be called "the unsinkable aircraft carrier," he said.


According to him, before the machines are installed, the infrastructure of the air bases in the Guards and in Kutch will be substantially upgraded. It will receive updated and repaired airplanes and helicopters, including Su-27 fighter jets, anti-submarine Tu-142 and Il-38, as well as Ka-27 and Ka-29 helicopters.


In the 70s of the last century, the Black Sea Fleet included the 2nd Guards Division, which included three missile-bearing regiments based on the airfields of Vesyoloye, Gvardeyskoe and Oktyabrskoe. After the partition of the Black Sea fleet 19 Tu-22M3 went to the Russian side, and 20 to the Ukrainian side.


The Tu-22М3 is one of the modifications of the long-range supersonic bomber-bomber with variable wing geometry. The total mass of bombs (nuclear or ordinary bombs of various types), located in the bomb bay and on the external nodes of the suspension, reaches 24 tons. The onboard equipment allows the aircraft to be used in all weather conditions.

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  1. +51
    26 March 2014 16: 42
    We will threaten the hotel with the Swede !!! good
    1. +42
      26 March 2014 16: 51
      Semen Semenych !!! Confused again. The Saudis are not Swedes, but sheikhs.
      1. W1950
        +20
        26 March 2014 16: 53
        Tremble Europe, we are flying.
        1. +4
          26 March 2014 18: 01
          And all the same, sensible generals sat in the USSR Ministry of Defense ... I think the brigade of Special Forces should be placed somewhere in the Crimean steppes ...
          1. +2
            26 March 2014 19: 59
            And all the same, sensible generals sat in the USSR Ministry of Defense ... I think the brigade of Special Forces should be placed somewhere in the Crimean steppes
            Yes, in Soviet times, the brigade stood there, not only in the steppes, but in the mountains
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            1. 0
              26 March 2014 21: 25
              Quote: lukke
              Yes, in Soviet times, the brigade stood there, not only in the steppes, but in the mountains

              I know... wink Been there ...
        2. +1
          26 March 2014 23: 40
          Soon hello to Qatar.
      2. +18
        26 March 2014 16: 55
        Quote: GregAzov
        Semen Semenych !!! Confused again. The Saudis are not Swedes, but sheikhs.


        Yes, they are all Swedes ... laughing
        1. GRANATE-19
          +8
          26 March 2014 19: 07
          Quote: Semen Semenych
          Quote: GregAzov
          Semen Semenych !!! Confused again. The Saudis are not Swedes, but sheikhs.


          Yes, they are all Swedes ... laughing

          In PETROVSKY TIMES Europeans were called Germans, and in the east they lived Basurmans. Sincerely, I express my humble opinion.
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      3. +7
        26 March 2014 17: 35
        Quote: GregAzov
        The Saudis are not Swedes, but sheikhs

        Then we will threaten the Swede from here, and the sheikh will leave. soldier
      4. +1
        26 March 2014 19: 24
        Uncle JURBIN, you’ll forgive SemSemych a small mistake ...

        K.Prutkov: Look at the root! = And he is right!
      5. StolzSS
        +1
        26 March 2014 20: 49
        But what's the difference let them fear the Churbeks. laughing
    2. +6
      26 March 2014 17: 44
      Quote: Semen Semenych
      We will threaten the hotel with the Swede !!! good

      and Obama so dreamed of getting this "aircraft carrier" ... wassat
      1. +1
        26 March 2014 19: 06
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        Quote: Semen Semenych
        We will threaten the hotel with the Swede !!! good

        and Obama so dreamed of getting this "aircraft carrier" ... wassat


        Obama dreamed so much that he began to look 15 years older ... And he turned gray ... Why would it? smile
        1. +1
          26 March 2014 19: 59
          probably the "poor fellow" is not getting enough sleep, and, most likely, he is thumping like black! he will not see the Crimea! laughing wassat
    3. +2
      26 March 2014 18: 03
      Why threaten
      We just show that in which case there is something to charge with the right
      1. +1
        26 March 2014 19: 00
        We just show that in which case there is something to charge with the right

        If you look at the West, then on the left, so that the surprise is laughing
      2. 0
        26 March 2014 19: 10
        Quote: Siberia
        Why threaten
        We just show that in which case there is something to charge with the right


        That is, to show that we can charge, and threaten in your opinion different things? laughing
    4. +9
      26 March 2014 18: 12
      Tu 22 is a long-range, but not a strategic bomber, although it can carry out strategic tasks, it has and will have everything for this in the arsenal.
      1. GRANATE-19
        +1
        26 March 2014 19: 10
        Quote: Army1
        Tu 22 is a long-range, but not a strategic bomber, although it can carry out strategic tasks, it has and will have everything for this in the arsenal.

        We need to return the refueling rods to them, then it’s sure that the range of tasks will expand to strategic ones! With respect, I express my humble opinion.
        1. +1
          26 March 2014 19: 31
          You can apply PTB
        2. +1
          26 March 2014 19: 45
          Quote: GRANATE-19
          Quote: Army1
          Tu 22 is a long-range, but not a strategic bomber, although it can carry out strategic tasks, it has and will have everything for this in the arsenal.

          We need to return the refueling rods to them, then it’s sure that the range of tasks will expand to strategic ones! With respect, I express my humble opinion.

          Agree hi Best regards
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    5. +2
      26 March 2014 18: 15
      Quote: Semen Semenych
      We will threaten the hotel with the Swede !!! good


      It is more likely from the series "from behind the forest from behind the mountains a man showed an ax" ...
    6. finderector
      +1
      26 March 2014 19: 32
      And we will threaten with what. In the Naval Aviation, the stool and K did not leave a single TU-22 M3 aircraft. Yes, and in general, naval aviation was practically killed.
    7. +1
      26 March 2014 20: 14
      And Kachu restore !!!! The first military pilots flying school - Kacha! My native anti-submarine regiment, transport regiment, PLOR base, aviation technical base, retraining center, and a target aircraft detachment were there ... When restoring Crimea, we must not forget glorious aviation traditions. And then you can threaten the Swedes, am, the rest of the shallow trash ...
  2. +23
    26 March 2014 16: 44
    Well, who else in the West wants to impose sanctions ?! bully
  3. +10
    26 March 2014 16: 45
    Swede? No, toko Mazepa
    1. +6
      26 March 2014 16: 57
      Yes, not only, but for those who will behave badly lol
      1. +1
        26 March 2014 17: 46
        Good news fellow With Crimea RUSSIA strengthens its presence with the Air Force and Black Sea Fleet soldier
        1. GRANATE-19
          +3
          26 March 2014 19: 15
          Quote: AnaBat
          Good news fellow With Crimea RUSSIA strengthens its presence with the Air Force and Black Sea Fleet soldier

          We must also put the radar there so that it measures 100x100 meters so that it can be seen and heard up to the SOUTH POLE! With respect, I express my humble opinion.
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  4. +29
    26 March 2014 16: 46
    I was on quality in 2007, the situation is not rosy of course, and then I could not even think that everything would change radically. Just well done, no words
  5. +12
    26 March 2014 16: 46
    Offset! Nice to hear about the growing military power of our country!
  6. +7
    26 March 2014 16: 47
    Interestingly, the combat radius of these little birds is now where to reach ??
    1. +9
      26 March 2014 16: 57
      Quote: The same Lech
      Interestingly, the combat radius of these little birds is now where to reach ??


      Watching how many bags load laughing
    2. +22
      26 March 2014 16: 59
      Tu-22M3
      Maximum speed km / h
      at height 2300
      off the ground xnumx
      Cruising speed, km / h 930
      Practical range, km 7000
      Combat radius of action, km
      at supersonic speed 1500-1850
      at subsonic speed near the ground 1500-1650
      at subsonic speed along the mixed 2410 profile
      Practical ceiling, m 13300
      Crew 4
      If "return" the refueling equipment in the air, then he goes from the category of the so-called "Euro bomber" to the category of a full-fledged strategist.
      1. 1712
        +17
        26 March 2014 17: 20
        You most importantly did not write that the Tu-22М3 raises bombs - the total mass (nuclear or conventional bombs of various types) reaches 24 tons. A flying train bombed!
        1. Sergh
          +8
          26 March 2014 17: 28
          Quote: egor 1712
          Bombs flying train

          Well, the train eclipsed a little, but the half-platform is probably not full!
          1. +2
            26 March 2014 18: 34
            He compared the power of nuclear charges with the echelon of conventional bombs.
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        3. +6
          26 March 2014 17: 46
          Upon request, all performance characteristics in full:
          After the completion of the flight test program, Tu-22М3 is launched into serial production from 1978 onwards. Until the 1983 of the year, the Tu-22М3 was being built in parallel with the Tu-22М2, and starting from the 1984 of the year only Tu-22М3 was in the series. In total, several hundred Tu-22M aircraft were built at KAPO. Serial production of the aircraft was discontinued in the 1993 year.

          Modification of the Tu-22M3 (1979 g.)
          Wingspan, m
          maximum (65 hail) 34.28
          minimum (20 hail) 23.30
          Length, m 41.46
          Height, m ​​11.05
          Wing area, m2
          maximum (65 hail) 183.57
          minimum (20 hail) 175.80
          Weight, kg
          empty xnumx
          normal takeoff 112000
          maximum take-off 126000
          Mass of fuel, kg 53550
          Engine type 2 DTRDF NK-25
          Thrust, kgf
          2 x 14500
          afterburner xnumx xnumx
          Maximum speed km / h
          at height 2300
          off the ground xnumx
          Cruising speed, km / h 930
          Practical range, km 7000
          Combat radius of action, km
          at supersonic speed 1500-1850
          at subsonic speed near the ground 1500-1650
          at subsonic speed along the mixed 2410 profile
          Practical ceiling, m 13300
          Crew 4
          Armament:
          one 23 mm gun GSH-23L
          combat load - 24000 kg (maximum) and 12000 kg (normal)
          1-3 UR type X-22M
          10 Aeroballistic Missiles X-15
          Historical information on the aircraft here: http://www.airwar.ru/enc/bomber/tu22m3.html
          1. FID
            +3
            26 March 2014 18: 49
            Quote: LiSSyara
            one 23 mm gun GSH-23L

            One twin gun .... if anyone does not know.
        4. bif
          0
          27 March 2014 01: 30
          Quote: egor 1712
          You most importantly did not write that the Tu-22М3 raises bombs - the total mass (nuclear or conventional bombs of various types) reaches 24 tons. A flying train bombed!

          Bombs are not as interesting as KR ...)
          Here is an excerpt from the film about the potential use of the aircraft - to look like a nightmare of our partners
          1. bif
            +8
            27 March 2014 02: 26
            And this is already a reality ... Ases at super low altitudes
            1. 0
              27 March 2014 11: 51
              stunned. cool video.
              Interestingly, from the 20 Tu-22s that departed to Ukraine, is there at least something left or is everything under the knife?
              I remember seeing a sight to see in the city of Nizhyn. Chernihiv region. Tu-22s were based there ... they sawed everything. Men with tears in their eyes watched the process ...
              1. 0
                27 March 2014 12: 08
                Here you can read the novel:
                http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Дальняя_авиация_Украины hi
      2. 0
        26 March 2014 18: 30
        Quote: LiSSyara
        Tu-22M3
        Maximum speed km / h
        at height 2300
        off the ground xnumx
        Cruising speed, km / h 930
        Practical range, km 7000
        Combat radius of action, km
        at supersonic speed 1500-1850
        at subsonic speed near the ground 1500-1650
        at subsonic speed along the mixed 2410 profile
        Practical ceiling, m 13300
        Crew 4
        If "return" the refueling equipment in the air, then he goes from the category of the so-called "Euro bomber" to the category of a full-fledged strategist.

        Hello Sergey, is it possible that by 2020 only 30 cars will be upgraded to M3M?
        And in general, do we have any kind of secrecy: they said one thing, but will they buy-upgrade more?
    3. +11
      26 March 2014 17: 01
      Quote: The same Lech
      Interestingly, the combat radius of these little birds is now where to reach ??

      6000km flight range, combat radius with a combat load of 12000kg-1850km, we reach where we need ... to Turkey some 300km. soldier
      1. +2
        26 March 2014 20: 05
        solid! will be where our guys "frolic"! over the Black Sea, presumably, there will be superiority of Russia ?! and the Mediterranean is not far away! soldier
    4. +1
      26 March 2014 18: 33
      The supersonic range is -1850 km. At the sound end - 2410 km.
    5. 0
      26 March 2014 19: 14
      In the Mediterranean Sea, the AUG headed by J. Washington "... An excellent reason for our pilots to work out a training attack on an enemy's naval unit using bombs and missiles with paint ... put a marker, then the boat is for repair, the crew is disbanded.
  7. +8
    26 March 2014 16: 47
    Well, thank God!!!
  8. PLO
    -34
    26 March 2014 16: 48
    utter nonsense
    there are no unnecessary aircraft nor the need for a Tu-22M3 in the Crimea; AUGs cannot appear in the Black Sea
    1. Tig_1971
      +15
      26 March 2014 16: 51
      They will reach the Mediterranean Sea from there
      1. PLO
        -1
        26 March 2014 16: 52
        Do not say nonsense.
        who will let them through Turkey?
        1. +24
          26 March 2014 17: 07
          And who will ask.
          1. PLO
            0
            26 March 2014 17: 22
            indeed, no one will.
            they will be knocked down and that's it
            1. +2
              26 March 2014 18: 36
              Quote: olp
              indeed, no one will.
              they will be knocked down and that's it

              Our planes just won't fly, of course they can be shot down. But if it comes to the global furry animal, then not only Turkey, but also its overseas-European friends will be at risk of existence. It's not just about nuclear weapons.
            2. 0
              26 March 2014 19: 28
              not touched 101%
              1. PLO
                +1
                26 March 2014 19: 34
                in 2008, they also thought so. eventually shot down Tu-22M3.

                we have nothing to cover missile carriers in the Mediterranean. unless someday there will be a full-fledged air base in Syria.
            3. +1
              26 March 2014 22: 03
              The fact is that if they fly to Middle-earth, then Turkey is no longer there.
            4. 0
              26 March 2014 23: 21
              Quote: olp
              utter nonsense
              there are no unnecessary aircraft nor the need for a Tu-22M3 in the Crimea; AUGs cannot appear in the Black Sea

              Quote: Tig_1971
              They will reach the Mediterranean Sea from there

              Quote: olp
              Do not say nonsense.
              who will let them through Turkey?

              Quote: polite people
              And who will ask.

              Quote: olp
              indeed, no one will.
              they will be knocked down and that's it


              That's right, first "Backfires" will help solve the "problem of straits", and then the Mediterranean Sea ...
        2. +10
          26 March 2014 17: 07
          Iskander or something like that will "come to an agreement" with Turkey.
        3. +4
          26 March 2014 17: 53
          Previously, they flew without problems and not only TU-22М3 ... TU-95RC, TU-142, TU-16R, IL-38, BE-12, AN-12R ... Based on the airfields of Syria, Libya, Egypt ... And now there is an agreement in the leadership of Cyprus on the basing of our aviation ... flew through Hungary and Yugoslavia ... I think that now there are optimal flights for our aviation ... and flew not only from the Crimea, but also from the Baltic and the North .. .
          1. 0
            26 March 2014 18: 40
            Yes, they fly and will fly in the framework of international "agreements" at the UN. Therefore, Turkey, for example, did not let the American aircraft carrier through. Therefore, Russia does not have a nuclear fleet in the Black Sea.
          2. PLO
            0
            26 March 2014 19: 31
            Before, there were a lot of things, but now there is no Yugoslavia.
            Turkey, as a member of NATO, will never let us in if something happens. Romania is also asking for NATO.
            Bulgaria except that in peacetime it will pass, but if the EU and NATO pressures it will also close the sky.

            so it’s still necessary to fly to Cyprus, and Cyprus has not yet agreed to the permanent deployment of military aircraft. the maximum that the MTO point for ships shines there and basing of tankers is possible.

            Another important factor is that no more than 22 squadrons remained flying Tu-3M4, while the MPA is much more important in the Northern Fleet and in the Pacific Fleet.

            so that the Su-24 in the Guards or future Su-30SM or Su-34 there fully perform the necessary tasks
          3. FID
            0
            26 March 2014 19: 38
            Quote: moremansf
            TU-22M3 ... TU-95RC, TU-142, TU-16R, IL-38, BE-12, AN-12P ... Based on the airfields of Syria, Libya, Egypt.

            Tu-22M3 outside the USSR ??? You do not confuse? Tu-22M2 - yes, but triples ???
        4. +2
          26 March 2014 18: 37
          This is not stupid. When the war - everything was ... shouted at other states, and even they will get, by the very ... thrust.
        5. +2
          26 March 2014 19: 27
          and who will ask the Turks soldier
          1. PLO
            -2
            26 March 2014 19: 39
            so the Turks will not ask either.
            will the fighter jets raise and all that you will fight back from them?
            1. +1
              26 March 2014 22: 09
              And who told you that they will fly alone?
              1. PLO
                0
                27 March 2014 00: 55
                and who will accompany them?
                Do we have fighters with a combat radius of more than 1000km?
            2. Fanat1984
              0
              26 March 2014 23: 56
              Listen to you, so in our country there are no interceptors ... fool
    2. Tig_1971
      +3
      26 March 2014 16: 51
      They will reach the Mediterranean Sea from there
    3. Fanat1984
      0
      26 March 2014 23: 54
      And why did you suddenly decide that they would send extra planes there, they would buy new ones!
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  10. +8
    26 March 2014 16: 48
    Good news! Crimea without strategic aviation, like Crimea without the good old Crimean wine. Yes
  11. +23
    26 March 2014 16: 49
    This is the thing! Well, fine!
    1. Tig_1971
      +11
      26 March 2014 17: 15
      Beautiful, scoundrel! Scary, but beautiful!
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  12. +3
    26 March 2014 16: 49
    HOORAY! Go Russia! Stay away, Mr. Adversary.
  13. +17
    26 March 2014 16: 49
    And if they still return the equipment for refueling in the air ...

    On the night of 14 on May 1976 of the year, on a production Tu-22М2 under the command of V. Borisov, a test flight was carried out for a maximum range with one air refueling. The flight range of the aircraft was about 7000 km. The flight was recorded by American intelligence satellites, and the very next day a flight map was provided by the American delegation at the talks in Geneva to reduce strategic offensive arms of the OSV-2. Despite all the efforts of the USSR delegation led by Minister of Foreign Affairs A. Gromyko, the Americans insisted on the inclusion of the Tu-22М2 in the list of strategic forces of the USSR, although, in fact, this aircraft could not work across the United States. After long and difficult negotiations, an agreement was reached on dismantling refueling rods from all machines and limiting the mass production of the Tu-22M at the 30 level of machines per year.
    The Americans conducted active reconnaissance and were well aware of the effectiveness of a possible combat use.

    The main weapon of the aircraft is the anti-ship hypersonic cruise missile X-22Н with a lightweight HE-explosive warhead capable of piercing a hole with an area of ​​22 m² and a depth of up to 12 m in the side of the ship. The aircraft plows the area equivalent to the area of ​​22 standard football fields with one hit with free-falling bombs. Possibilities of sighting equipment allow a single bomb to enter the barn from a ten-kilometer height.
  14. +13
    26 March 2014 16: 49
    Russia in the Crimea!
  15. +8
    26 March 2014 16: 49
    Significantly strengthens the position of the Black Sea Fleet. More precisely, it expands the possibilities. Great news.
  16. +13
    26 March 2014 16: 50
    Crimea is our unsinkable aircraft carrier. Was! There is! And will be!
  17. +7
    26 March 2014 16: 51
    All TU 22M3 upgrade !!! And it seems there were more than 100! Where the gliders did not exhaust the resource, everything must be restored !!! And it is necessary to develop a new jet strike missile carrier! PAK YES has completely different goals! I think we'll hear about the development soon! Attack missile aircraft is what aligns us with NATO! Massed 130 missile carriers, under the guise of fighters demolish any fleet!
    1. +1
      26 March 2014 17: 24
      All TU 22М3 upgrade !!! And it seems there were more than 100!

      "In total in Russia at the moment of the 115 Tu-22M3 are fully combat-ready are the order of 40 machines... The modernization of 30 bombers is planned until 2020. For 2012, 1 aircraft of this type was re-equipped, which is currently undergoing a set of tests. "

      Source: http://topwar.ru/21963-tu-22m3m-vtoraya-molodost-izvestnogo-bombardirovschika.ht
      ml
      1. 0
        26 March 2014 18: 13
        I also recommend for enthusiastic jingoistic patriots to look at the materials on the Vozdvizhenka airbase in Primorsky Krai. Very sobering, you know ... For example this:
        http://my.mail.ru/mail/noct86/photo?album_id=1111
        1. 0
          26 March 2014 18: 54
          Quote: Just Vasilich
          I also recommend for enthusiastic jingoistic patriots to look at the materials on the Vozdvizhenka airbase in Primorsky Krai. Very sobering, you know ... For example this:
          http://my.mail.ru/mail/noct86/photo?album_id=1111

          So what? They closed the unnecessary base, and disposed of aircraft unsuitable for further operation. What should sober up here?
      2. +1
        26 March 2014 18: 55
        Quote: Just Vasilich
        All TU 22М3 upgrade !!! And it seems there were more than 100!

        "In total in Russia at the moment of the 115 Tu-22M3 are fully combat-ready are the order of 40 machines... The modernization of 30 bombers is planned until 2020. For 2012, 1 aircraft of this type was re-equipped, which is currently undergoing a set of tests. "

        Source: http://topwar.ru/21963-tu-22m3m-vtoraya-molodost-izvestnogo-bombardirovschika.ht

        ml

        Nobody has canceled strategic misinformation yet.
    2. +3
      26 March 2014 17: 53
      Quote: fregina1
      To upgrade all TU 22M3 !!! ... And it is necessary to develop a new rocket attack carrier!

      After M3, the elaborations of M4 and M5 were beaten.
      "Tu-22M5
      Project. Development began in 1997. Modification of the wing contours, improvement of local aerodynamics and quality of external surfaces was performed in order to reduce the RCS. Expansion of the range of weapons of destruction: 4 KR X-101 or 6-8 X-555. Installation of a flight control system at low altitude. Modernization of avionics. Development, no prototype ". Http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2%D1%83-22%D0%9C
      1. FID
        +2
        26 March 2014 18: 43
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        After M3, the elaborations of M4 and M5 were beaten.
        "Tu-22M5
        Project. Development began in 1997. Modification of the wing contours, improvement of local aerodynamics and quality of external surfaces was performed in order to reduce the RCS. Expansion of the range of weapons of destruction: 4 KR X-101 or 6-8 X-555. Installation of a flight control system at low altitude. Modernization of avionics. Development, no prototype ". Http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2%D1%83-22%D0%9C

        Forgive generously - utter nonsense. Low-altitude flight (NVP) was used ONLY on 2-3 vehicles (sea reconnaissance), they did not go into the series. It is now planned to finalize up to 22M3M, but there are no motors yet, and the avionics are ready. Do not blindly believe Vika, they sometimes write such nonsense.
        1. +1
          26 March 2014 19: 02
          Quote: SSI
          Do not blindly believe Vika, they sometimes write such nonsense.

          Yes, this wiki drives 45% and fools in bulk - you need to believe what you see and what you know 100%
          1. FID
            +2
            26 March 2014 19: 06
            Fire is my first love and work ...
  18. +5
    26 March 2014 16: 52
    ... "The necessary and sufficient number of naval missile carriers will appear here." ...

    SUFFICIENT amount !!! laughing Balm for the soul ...
  19. Antibrim
    +2
    26 March 2014 16: 52
    glorious traditions need to be renewed) Europe will be in fear now) there will be many squeals. Shoigu is the right minister!
  20. +4
    26 March 2014 16: 53
    I wonder what is the fate of the 20 Tu-22 M3 remaining in Ukraine?
    1. +3
      26 March 2014 16: 57
      sad ...
    2. +3
      26 March 2014 17: 03
      They drank them a long time ago in connection with the elimination of long-range aviation. Remained a couple of pieces in non-flying condition in museums.
  21. +1
    26 March 2014 16: 54
    Unsinkable aircraft carrier must be loaded with equipment! good
  22. +1
    26 March 2014 16: 55
    from where it came to ... I don’t know the strategists in FIG - but they won’t hurt
  23. +2
    26 March 2014 16: 56
    Only not strategic but tactical bomber

    There is a rational grain - to cover the sea until the submarines are built
    1. +4
      26 March 2014 18: 00
      Quote: Lich
      Only not strategic but tactical bomber

      If you were not too lazy to look at least at the Wiki, then to your greatest surprise you would know that:
      "Tu-22M (product" 45 ", NATO codification: Backfire) is a long-range supersonic missile-carrier bomber with variable wing geometry.
      Well, M3, M3M, M4 and the M5 project are just modifications of the Tu-22M base model.
      1. +1
        26 March 2014 19: 21
        Ok ok, according to old memory they ranked him as older modifications. Well, if it flies further than 5000, it means strategic.

        Since the Western partners so diligently destroyed them in Ukraine in the early 2000s, it means that their return to duty will even more distort the faces of our "friends".
        1. FID
          0
          26 March 2014 19: 29
          Quote: Lich
          Well, if it flies further than 5000, it means strategic.

          Yes, he is not a strategist, far! Strategists are Tu-160 and Tu-95, and fire is a long-range bomber.
  24. +25
    26 March 2014 16: 56
    I think someday, in Priluki and Poltava, a young commander of a regiment of new Russian bombers ... with a sledgehammer will approach the monument on the liquidation of TU 160 and Tu 95 and how he will give the names of the American senators on this shiny tablet! And record it on tape! And in the evening we’ll drink a glass for the sake of such a thing .... and remember the White Swans, some of which did not pour even 100 hours! Let us recall the treacherous betrayal of our people, hundreds of thousands of hours of work and the enormous amount of labor of a Soviet man, ditched by a drunken drunk EBN and his comrades!
  25. Vtel
    +2
    26 March 2014 16: 57
    Oh, the noise will be gentlemen, for all the tonsils. But nothing can be done, since GDP has been prescribed, it will have to be accepted for GDP.
    1. 0
      26 March 2014 18: 56
      Quote: Vtel
      Oh, the noise will be gentlemen, for all the tonsils. But nothing can be done, since GDP has been prescribed, it will have to be accepted for GDP.

      On the runway
  26. +18
    26 March 2014 16: 58
    That’s nice, but they’ve completely forgotten who they are dealing with!
  27. 0
    26 March 2014 16: 59
    And what until 2016 to pull? Come on early!
    1. +4
      26 March 2014 17: 03
      Quote: MaKeNa
      And what until 2016 to pull? Come on early!

      It is necessary to repair, refit, etc. Not all at once ...
      By the way, where will the Tu-22 be taken from, transferred from other airfields, or will they restore something from the reserve?
  28. RN40Y45
    +2
    26 March 2014 16: 59
    The 71st training ground needs to be restored!
  29. 52
    +3
    26 March 2014 17: 00
    Good news! Of course, for "Backfire" the Black Sea as for an elephant is a small-sized kitchen, but besides the main hypostasis this aircraft has a lot of other modifications. And in general, we get our own mini-strategist in this region. So to speak, the "big stick" of Uncle Vova.
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  31. +24
    26 March 2014 17: 02
    Great news! Great possible argument!
    1. 0
      26 March 2014 18: 58
      Quote: mabuta
      Great news! Great possible argument!

      This is not likes. This is a stat in WoWarplanes.
  32. +3
    26 March 2014 17: 02
    Now also the Turks will be constantly in good shape, like the Japanese.
    The joint headquarters of Japan estimated that only from July to September this year, fighters took to the air 105 times due to the appearance of Russian aircraft.
    laughing
    1. On the bayonet
      +1
      26 March 2014 17: 14
      The Turks are not up to tone yet, they are fighting with Facebook and YouTube, like Don Quixote with the mills)))
  33. +10
    26 March 2014 17: 05
    Well, they brought a lot of "goodies" to Crimea, for potential "sworn friends":
    SCRK "Bastion"


    SCRC "Ball"

    ZPRK "Pantsir C1


    What does this mean? That C-400 appeared in Crimea, since the armor divisions are included in the C-400 regiments. Just in the anti-aircraft defense of the Shell there is no armor. Here, by the way, is the confirmation of my humble theory. Allegedly, the photo was taken in Sevastopol.

    BM-27 "Hurricane"

    Radar 2T2 39N6E "Casta"

    2A65 "Msta-B"
    1. On the bayonet
      +1
      26 March 2014 17: 19
      Something in general no disguise on technology. So it would be nice to camouflage mail cars for coal or mail cars. I don’t intend to teach anyone, but I would prefer to hide the strategic info from the greedy eyes of others)
      1. +9
        26 March 2014 17: 51
        What disguise? This is moral and psychological pressure on the enemy! They brought it, unfurled it and hung a poster "We are waiting for a visit"!
        1. On the bayonet
          0
          26 March 2014 18: 51
          From this point, you say correctly) But imagine another effect - "surprise!" to attempt any aggressive movement)
      2. Gvozdovsky
        +6
        26 March 2014 17: 54
        In the current conditions, I think, it is worthwhile to show once again the presence of muscles, so that individuals with a weak psyche do not have illusions on the topic "and not whether we should wave a saber" tongue
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    2. +4
      26 March 2014 18: 08
      Quote: Novel 1977
      Well, they brought a lot of "goodies" to Crimea

      Roma! Thank you so much for the photo. You are always true to yourself: it is better to see once than to hear 7 times! Thank.
  34. +1
    26 March 2014 17: 06
    It’s time, it’s time to pump up Crimea with technology and people!
    1. +4
      26 March 2014 17: 16
      Crimea is an all-Russian health resort and it needs to be pumped up with other complexes. Well, and these will provide peace of mind in the health resort. And yet Infrastructure, food and finance in the first place. Yes
  35. +3
    26 March 2014 17: 07
    Quote: mamont5
    Crimea is our unsinkable aircraft carrier. Was! There is! And will be!

    Cool! Yes, I'm afraid to ask about Alaska. In the future.
  36. +5
    26 March 2014 17: 09
    And this is just the beginning of banderlog !!! We are near! We, like Grandfather Frost, know who behaved badly and who needs to put a piston in ..... poo!
  37. +1
    26 March 2014 17: 09
    What they wanted to do with the Crimea. THAT was done by RUSSIA - made from an unsinkable aircraft carrier a base for the threat of all of NATO in the southern region.
  38. Gagarin
    +3
    26 March 2014 17: 19
    PRETTY BOY!!!
    Quote: fregina1
    I think someday, in Priluki and Poltava, will approach the monument
  39. +3
    26 March 2014 17: 28
    Quote: Tig_1971
    Beautiful, scoundrel! Scary, but beautiful!

    Better like this: Handsome, but older.
  40. +2
    26 March 2014 17: 30
    About tse will be garno. The Turks, together with their masters on NATO, can roll their lips. The Russian Crimea will completely control the Black Sea, and there are not far from the straits.
  41. chastener
    +1
    26 March 2014 17: 33
    Great news! To any country from the EU no more than 3-4 hours of summer bully
  42. +3
    26 March 2014 17: 36
    The flagship of the Ukrainian Navy, the frigate "Getman Sagaidachny" left Odessa to carry out combat missions in Ukrainian territorial waters.
    http://warfiles.ru/show-51068-pridnestrovskie-specsluzhby-sbili-ukrainskiy-bespi
    lotnik.html

    The frigate left the port of Odessa on March 14 and arrived in a certain area of ​​the Black Sea. There he discovered four warships of the Russian Black Sea Fleet and two Mi-35 fire support helicopters. The Russians tried to cross the sea border of Ukraine.

    Sagaidachny commander Roman Pyatnitsky, captain of the first rank, entered into negotiations with violators and demanded that they leave the territorial waters of our country, but the enemy did not change course and continued to move towards Ukraine.

    In this regard, a combat alert was announced on the Ukrainian frigate, the ship became close to Russian units. As a result, the Russians retreated into neutral waters.

    The Sagaidachnoye armament was not used during the incident.

    Currently, the frigate continues to patrol the Ukrainian border.
    GUYS write almost the naval battle took place! ONLY ONE MISTAKE! Sagaidachny is NOT a FLAGMAN now, he is now a RAIDER! Since left alone lol ! From all their fleet! So, Romik Pyatnitsky, you command the frigate there, but do not drive much, otherwise we still have no time to repair this frigate! All production lines are busy!
  43. +9
    26 March 2014 17: 38
    The end of the toothless era!
  44. rfgthfyu
    0
    26 March 2014 17: 39
    Interestingly, and "Thread" is also ours?
    1. +4
      26 March 2014 17: 49
      Quote: rfgthfyu
      Interestingly, and "Thread" is also ours?

      read the news yesterday! of course ours ... hi
  45. kelevra
    +1
    26 March 2014 17: 45
    Good strategic shield
  46. +2
    26 March 2014 17: 48
    Turks are not happy. Airplanes are closer, and holiday makers are further.
  47. Artem1967
    +3
    26 March 2014 17: 53
    The excellent strategic position of Crimea should be used to the maximum. NATO members Turkey and Romania will think a thousand times about the consequences of possible anti-Russian actions. Yes, and Ukraine is useful to know.
    1. +4
      26 March 2014 17: 56
      Romania? Who is it? Gypsies? lol
  48. +2
    26 March 2014 17: 55
    Great news. I really hope that there will not be another theft of budget funds, and everything will go to a real increase in the defense capability of the Russian Federation.
  49. +3
    26 March 2014 18: 00
    Quote: rfgthfyu
    Interestingly, and "Thread" is also ours?

    Of course OUR !!!
  50. Ivan 63
    +2
    26 March 2014 18: 05
    The thread is by itself (though somewhat late) We need to think about the infrastructure and production capacities that should be part of the USC holding, and Nikolaev (as opposed to the south) is still seemingly silent, maybe they have already forgotten why they were being built?
  51. +2
    26 March 2014 18: 19
    Americans are now definitely biting off their nails up to their elbows, shouting “it’s WE, WE should have done this” good
  52. 0
    26 March 2014 18: 25
    Quote: GregAzov
    Semen Semenych !!! Confused again. The Saudis are not Swedes, but sheikhs.

    This is a literary turn of phrase. I should have done better at school! And the words belong to A.S. Pushkin “The Bronze Horseman”.
  53. 0
    26 March 2014 18: 28
    who knows, maybe they were based in the Kaliningrad region in the eighties. I saw and liked the handsome guys
    1. 0
      26 March 2014 20: 04
      Quote: sv68
      who knows, maybe they were based in the Kaliningrad region in the eighties. I saw and liked the handsome guys

      I don’t know, but when my dad served in the city of Stry, Lviv region until 1992, the 260th heavy bomber air regiment was based there. In 1991, the air regiment was armed with 23 Tu-16K and 18 Tu-22M3. In 1993, the Tu-22M3 was transferred to the Priluki airbase, and the Tu-16K was removed from service and disposed of. In 1998, the air base was closed and the 260th Air Regiment was disbanded. We boys also admired and were proud of the flights of our fathers and friends. Sorry, very sorry! And therefore we are doubly happy for the return of these beauties!
  54. FID
    0
    26 March 2014 18: 46
    Why Gvardeiskoye??? In the USSR, there were firelights in Oktyabrsky and Vesely, the stripes were suitable there
    , i.e. specially built...
  55. Smiles to you
    +2
    26 March 2014 18: 52
    Everything that was ours will remain ours. After all, they gave an order to all military units in Crimea: When leaving (from the unit), take with you only personal belongings. Everything else (technique, equipment, hardware), except lard. Stays put lol .We are coming home!!!!
  56. +2
    26 March 2014 18: 57
    The deployment of the Tu-22M3 in Crimea will significantly increase the deterrence potential of the 6th American fleet in the Mediterranean Sea. But besides this, a new modification of the Tu-22M3M variant will be an effective US response to the deployment of European missile defense.
    “The Russian Air Force will turn the Tu-22M3 long-range bomber into a high-precision weapon. To do this, all electronics will be changed and it will probably be equipped with a new Kh-32 cruise missile. In the new configuration, the vehicle will receive another letter “M” to its name and will be called Tu-22M3M The pilots will also undergo retraining for the new aircraft. To fly the modified aircraft, the pilots will be retrained for two to three months at the Ryazan Long-Range Aviation Training Center.
    By 2020, it is planned to modernize 30 Tu-22M3, installing equipment on them with a new element base and adapted to an expanded range of weapons. However, this is clearly not enough, says I. Sivkov, vice-president of the Academy of Geopolitical Sciences.
    - 30 aircraft are only enough to disable one American aircraft carrier and sink several escort ships. Modernization of the entire fleet would increase its capabilities by 100–120% for offshore facilities and 2–3 times for land-based ones,” Sivkov explained. The new modification of the aircraft will also receive new weapons. For example, the new X-32 missile will search for a target “from under the wing” of the aircraft, just like the previous X-22. After firing, the rocket will be able to fly to the target several hundred kilometers away on its own engine. At the same time, it is almost impossible to detect and shoot down such a missile.”
    http://izvestia.ru/news/514294
    1. 1712
      +2
      26 March 2014 19: 30
      “30 aircraft are only enough to disable one American aircraft carrier” - how pessimistic is that? Believe me, a flight of Tu-22M3 is enough to bring down an aircraft carrier.
      1. FID
        -5
        26 March 2014 19: 42
        Quote: egor 1712
        Believe me, a flight of Tu-22M3 is enough to bring down an aircraft carrier.

        You are very mistaken... Maybe 30 won’t be enough...
        1. Fanat1984
          0
          27 March 2014 00: 01
          The link is precisely pessimism, one is enough! soldier
  57. 0
    26 March 2014 19: 34
    Quote: W1950
    Tremble Europe, we are flying.

    God himself, as they say, ordered that “strategists” be placed there! And even the outline of the Crimean peninsula, very similar to an ancient spear or arrowhead, seems to show that this is a powerful bastion of Russia on the path of its enemies, from which it is possible to control the troubled region of the Middle East and the Mediterranean Sea.
  58. Kustanayets
    0
    26 March 2014 19: 45
    Crimea is an unsinkable aircraft carrier for the price of one referendum. Plus a regiment of flying "frigates" on it (according to the number of missiles). Putin definitely doesn’t have Jews in his family? If only the unsinkable aircraft carrier Cuba was complete and Obama would hit the wall.
  59. Leshka
    0
    26 March 2014 19: 50
    tremble Türkiye ha ha good
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  61. zol1
    0
    26 March 2014 20: 23
    White swans are returning to their nest!
  62. +1
    26 March 2014 20: 37
    BLACK FIRE in Crimea means that in the event of a large-scale conflict, the Black Sea coast of Turkey (the Bosphorus itself and even the Dardanelles) and the coasts of Bulgaria, Romania, and Ukraine to a depth of 300-400 km can be shot at. Naturally, the neighbors will squeak, and Uncle Sam will frown and think What other dirty trick can you come up with for Russia? And the southeast, something is not moving!
    1. FID
      0
      26 March 2014 20: 57
      Quote: polkovnik manuch
      BLACK FIRE

      I'm sorry, BACKFIRE, it would be more correct...
  63. 0
    26 March 2014 20: 38
    But I wonder about that TU 160 that is in the museum in Poltava, how unflyable is it? Maybe it makes sense to revive it! The main thing is that the airframe is intact!!!!
  64. 0
    26 March 2014 20: 49
    How many Tu-22m regiments do we have alive? Where will he be relocated from?
    1. FID
      0
      26 March 2014 21: 03
      Quote: clidon
      How many Tu-22m regiments do we have alive? Where will he be relocated from?

      It’s hard to say... There are sailors in Crimea, and under Serdyukov, naval aviation was “reformatted”. The sailors remained in Olenya, they were removed from Mongokhto, I don’t know where in the Far East they are based now. The specifics of flights over the sea differ from orientation flights over land...
  65. polkownik1
    0
    26 March 2014 21: 10
    Bosphorus under control 20 minutes after takeoff!
  66. DPN
    +1
    26 March 2014 21: 16
    The good news, especially if they fly towards Saudi Arabia, so that these people don’t play around with oil prices, we need to hint to them more often that there is no need to joke with RUSSIA.
  67. +7
    26 March 2014 21: 29
    Great news! Glory to Long-Range Aviation!!!
  68. 0
    26 March 2014 22: 23
    And there will be no need to drive the Tu-160 at targets in the geyrop. Although the Kh-15 and Kh-22 missiles, which were developed for the Tu-22, have a short range (up to 280 and 600 km, respectively), and the Kh-22 was initially generally anti-ship. Maybe others are using them now, I don’t know.
  69. 0
    26 March 2014 22: 25
    Dear forum members, if these planes are upgraded to x101 and caliber, then not only the Bosporus, but all of Europe will be under control immediately after takeoff. The task of such aircraft is not to heroically overcome other countries, but in a critical situation to take off and survive for a retaliatory strike. In the naval version, after takeoff, the entire Black Sea area is under attack, provided that modern missiles are used. The only problem is with the engines.
  70. 0
    27 March 2014 02: 52
    Quote: bif
    And this is already a reality ... Ases at super low altitudes

    Strong video, really s..rit. feel
  71. 0
    27 March 2014 02: 52
    Why are the planes in the photo so scary? Stained with rust, worn... Well, in general, Crimea needs to be restored in every sense.
  72. 0
    27 March 2014 05: 37
    Good news.
    But, apparently, the state of the airfield facilities in Gvardeyskoye is not so good...
    It's taking too long to prepare.
  73. 0
    27 March 2014 14: 29
    To begin with, the entire infrastructure in Crimea will have to be built almost from scratch. And then put everything new there.
  74. kasingM
    0
    17 July 2014 15: 06
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