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Russian Defense Ministry will return strategic bombers to Crimea

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At the air base in the Guards in 2016, the naval missile carrier regiment will be located. He is armed with long-range Tu-22М3 bombers. To this end, Russia is seriously modernizing the infrastructure of the Crimean airfields.



“We expect that in two years the rocket-carrying regiment will be based again on the Tu-22М3 air base,” a source in the Russian Defense Ministry told Interfax-AVN.


“Here will appear the necessary and sufficient number of sea-launched missile carriers. The need for them in the southern direction has always been, but right now there are suitable conditions for their return to the peninsula, which used to be called "the unsinkable aircraft carrier," he said.


According to him, before the machines are installed, the infrastructure of the air bases in the Guards and in Kutch will be substantially upgraded. It will receive updated and repaired airplanes and helicopters, including Su-27 fighter jets, anti-submarine Tu-142 and Il-38, as well as Ka-27 and Ka-29 helicopters.


In the 70s of the last century, the Black Sea Fleet included the 2nd Guards Division, which included three missile-bearing regiments based on the airfields of Vesyoloye, Gvardeyskoe and Oktyabrskoe. After the partition of the Black Sea fleet 19 Tu-22M3 went to the Russian side, and 20 to the Ukrainian side.


The Tu-22М3 is one of the modifications of the long-range supersonic bomber-bomber with variable wing geometry. The total mass of bombs (nuclear or ordinary bombs of various types), located in the bomb bay and on the external nodes of the suspension, reaches 24 tons. The onboard equipment allows the aircraft to be used in all weather conditions.

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  1. Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 26 March 2014 16: 42
    +51
    We will threaten the hotel with the Swede !!! good
    1. Gregazov
      Gregazov 26 March 2014 16: 51
      +42
      Semen Semenych !!! Confused again. The Saudis are not Swedes, but sheikhs.
      1. W1950
        W1950 26 March 2014 16: 53
        +20
        Tremble Europe, we are flying.
        1. domokl
          domokl 26 March 2014 18: 01
          +4
          And all the same, sensible generals sat in the USSR Ministry of Defense ... I think the brigade of Special Forces should be placed somewhere in the Crimean steppes ...
          1. lukke
            lukke 26 March 2014 19: 59
            +2
            And all the same, sensible generals sat in the USSR Ministry of Defense ... I think the brigade of Special Forces should be placed somewhere in the Crimean steppes
            Yes, in Soviet times, the brigade stood there, not only in the steppes, but in the mountains
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            1. domokl
              domokl 26 March 2014 21: 25
              0
              Quote: lukke
              Yes, in Soviet times, the brigade stood there, not only in the steppes, but in the mountains

              I know... wink Been there ...
        2. kirieeleyson
          kirieeleyson 26 March 2014 23: 40
          +1
          Soon hello to Qatar.
      2. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 26 March 2014 16: 55
        +18
        Quote: GregAzov
        Semen Semenych !!! Confused again. The Saudis are not Swedes, but sheikhs.


        Yes, they are all Swedes ... laughing
        1. GRANATE-19
          GRANATE-19 26 March 2014 19: 07
          +8
          Quote: Semen Semenych
          Quote: GregAzov
          Semen Semenych !!! Confused again. The Saudis are not Swedes, but sheikhs.


          Yes, they are all Swedes ... laughing

          In PETROVSKY TIMES Europeans were called Germans, and in the east they lived Basurmans. Sincerely, I express my humble opinion.
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      3. inkass_98
        inkass_98 26 March 2014 17: 35
        +7
        Quote: GregAzov
        The Saudis are not Swedes, but sheikhs

        Then we will threaten the Swede from here, and the sheikh will leave. soldier
      4. Very old
        Very old 26 March 2014 19: 24
        +1
        Uncle JURBIN, you’ll forgive SemSemych a small mistake ...

        K.Prutkov: Look at the root! = And he is right!
      5. StolzSS
        StolzSS 26 March 2014 20: 49
        +1
        But what's the difference let them fear the Churbeks. laughing
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 26 March 2014 17: 44
      +6
      Quote: Semen Semenych
      We will threaten the hotel with the Swede !!! good

      and Obama so dreamed of getting this "aircraft carrier" ... wassat
      1. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 26 March 2014 19: 06
        +1
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        Quote: Semen Semenych
        We will threaten the hotel with the Swede !!! good

        and Obama so dreamed of getting this "aircraft carrier" ... wassat


        Obama dreamed so much that he began to look 15 years older ... And he turned gray ... Why would it? smile
        1. asar
          asar 26 March 2014 19: 59
          +1
          probably the "poor fellow" is not getting enough sleep, and, most likely, he is thumping like black! he will not see the Crimea! laughing wassat
    3. Sibiriya
      Sibiriya 26 March 2014 18: 03
      +2
      Why threaten
      We just show that in which case there is something to charge with the right
      1. Andrey57
        Andrey57 26 March 2014 19: 00
        +1
        We just show that in which case there is something to charge with the right

        If you look at the West, then on the left, so that the surprise is laughing
      2. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 26 March 2014 19: 10
        0
        Quote: Siberia
        Why threaten
        We just show that in which case there is something to charge with the right


        That is, to show that we can charge, and threaten in your opinion different things? laughing
    4. Army1
      Army1 26 March 2014 18: 12
      +9
      Tu 22 is a long-range, but not a strategic bomber, although it can carry out strategic tasks, it has and will have everything for this in the arsenal.
      1. GRANATE-19
        GRANATE-19 26 March 2014 19: 10
        +1
        Quote: Army1
        Tu 22 is a long-range, but not a strategic bomber, although it can carry out strategic tasks, it has and will have everything for this in the arsenal.

        We need to return the refueling rods to them, then it’s sure that the range of tasks will expand to strategic ones! With respect, I express my humble opinion.
        1. Roman 57 rus
          Roman 57 rus 26 March 2014 19: 31
          +1
          You can apply PTB
        2. Army1
          Army1 26 March 2014 19: 45
          +1
          Quote: GRANATE-19
          Quote: Army1
          Tu 22 is a long-range, but not a strategic bomber, although it can carry out strategic tasks, it has and will have everything for this in the arsenal.

          We need to return the refueling rods to them, then it’s sure that the range of tasks will expand to strategic ones! With respect, I express my humble opinion.

          Agree hi Best regards
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    5. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 26 March 2014 18: 15
      +2
      Quote: Semen Semenych
      We will threaten the hotel with the Swede !!! good


      It is more likely from the series "from behind the forest from behind the mountains a man showed an ax" ...
    6. finderektor
      finderektor 26 March 2014 19: 32
      +1
      And we will threaten with what. In the Naval Aviation, the stool and K did not leave a single TU-22 M3 aircraft. Yes, and in general, naval aviation was practically killed.
    7. Russophile
      Russophile 26 March 2014 20: 14
      +1
      And Kachu restore !!!! The first military pilots flying school - Kacha! My native anti-submarine regiment, transport regiment, PLOR base, aviation technical base, retraining center, and a target aircraft detachment were there ... When restoring Crimea, we must not forget glorious aviation traditions. And then you can threaten the Swedes, am, the rest of the shallow trash ...
  2. Wiruz
    Wiruz 26 March 2014 16: 44
    +23
    Well, who else in the West wants to impose sanctions ?! bully
  3. Dry_T-50
    Dry_T-50 26 March 2014 16: 45
    +10
    Swede? No, toko Mazepa
    1. TiGRoO
      TiGRoO 26 March 2014 16: 57
      +6
      Yes, not only, but for those who will behave badly lol
      1. AnaBat
        AnaBat 26 March 2014 17: 46
        +1
        Good news fellow With Crimea RUSSIA strengthens its presence with the Air Force and Black Sea Fleet soldier
        1. GRANATE-19
          GRANATE-19 26 March 2014 19: 15
          +3
          Quote: AnaBat
          Good news fellow With Crimea RUSSIA strengthens its presence with the Air Force and Black Sea Fleet soldier

          We must also put the radar there so that it measures 100x100 meters so that it can be seen and heard up to the SOUTH POLE! With respect, I express my humble opinion.
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  4. darksoul
    darksoul 26 March 2014 16: 46
    +29
    I was on quality in 2007, the situation is not rosy of course, and then I could not even think that everything would change radically. Just well done, no words
  5. Cripple cross
    Cripple cross 26 March 2014 16: 46
    +12
    Offset! Nice to hear about the growing military power of our country!
  6. Same lech
    Same lech 26 March 2014 16: 47
    +7
    Interestingly, the combat radius of these little birds is now where to reach ??
    1. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch 26 March 2014 16: 57
      +9
      Quote: The same Lech
      Interestingly, the combat radius of these little birds is now where to reach ??


      Watching how many bags load laughing
    2. Lissyara
      Lissyara 26 March 2014 16: 59
      +22
      Tu-22M3
      Maximum speed km / h
      at height 2300
      off the ground xnumx
      Cruising speed, km / h 930
      Practical range, km 7000
      Combat radius of action, km
      at supersonic speed 1500-1850
      at subsonic speed near the ground 1500-1650
      at subsonic speed along the mixed 2410 profile
      Practical ceiling, m 13300
      Crew 4
      If "return" the refueling equipment in the air, then he goes from the category of the so-called "Euro bomber" to the category of a full-fledged strategist.
      1. egor 1712
        egor 1712 26 March 2014 17: 20
        +17
        You most importantly did not write that the Tu-22М3 raises bombs - the total mass (nuclear or conventional bombs of various types) reaches 24 tons. A flying train bombed!
        1. Sergh
          Sergh 26 March 2014 17: 28
          +8
          Quote: egor 1712
          Bombs flying train

          Well, the train eclipsed a little, but the half-platform is probably not full!
          1. Aleksey_K
            Aleksey_K 26 March 2014 18: 34
            +2
            He compared the power of nuclear charges with the echelon of conventional bombs.
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        3. Lissyara
          Lissyara 26 March 2014 17: 46
          +6
          Upon request, all performance characteristics in full:
          After the completion of the flight test program, Tu-22М3 is launched into serial production from 1978 onwards. Until the 1983 of the year, the Tu-22М3 was being built in parallel with the Tu-22М2, and starting from the 1984 of the year only Tu-22М3 was in the series. In total, several hundred Tu-22M aircraft were built at KAPO. Serial production of the aircraft was discontinued in the 1993 year.

          Modification of the Tu-22M3 (1979 g.)
          Wingspan, m
          maximum (65 hail) 34.28
          minimum (20 hail) 23.30
          Length, m 41.46
          Height, m ​​11.05
          Wing area, m2
          maximum (65 hail) 183.57
          minimum (20 hail) 175.80
          Weight, kg
          empty xnumx
          normal takeoff 112000
          maximum take-off 126000
          Mass of fuel, kg 53550
          Engine type 2 DTRDF NK-25
          Thrust, kgf
          2 x 14500
          afterburner xnumx xnumx
          Maximum speed km / h
          at height 2300
          off the ground xnumx
          Cruising speed, km / h 930
          Practical range, km 7000
          Combat radius of action, km
          at supersonic speed 1500-1850
          at subsonic speed near the ground 1500-1650
          at subsonic speed along the mixed 2410 profile
          Practical ceiling, m 13300
          Crew 4
          Armament:
          one 23 mm gun GSH-23L
          combat load - 24000 kg (maximum) and 12000 kg (normal)
          1-3 UR type X-22M
          10 Aeroballistic Missiles X-15
          Historical information on the aircraft here: http://www.airwar.ru/enc/bomber/tu22m3.html
          1. FID
            FID 26 March 2014 18: 49
            +3
            Quote: LiSSyara
            one 23 mm gun GSH-23L

            One twin gun .... if anyone does not know.
        4. bif
          bif 27 March 2014 01: 30
          0
          Quote: egor 1712
          You most importantly did not write that the Tu-22М3 raises bombs - the total mass (nuclear or conventional bombs of various types) reaches 24 tons. A flying train bombed!

          Bombs are not as interesting as KR ...)
          Here is an excerpt from the film about the potential use of the aircraft - to look like a nightmare of our partners
          1. bif
            bif 27 March 2014 02: 26
            +8
            And this is already a reality ... Ases at super low altitudes
            1. silver_roman
              silver_roman 27 March 2014 11: 51
              0
              stunned. cool video.
              Interestingly, from the 20 Tu-22s that departed to Ukraine, is there at least something left or is everything under the knife?
              I remember seeing a sight to see in the city of Nizhyn. Chernihiv region. Tu-22s were based there ... they sawed everything. Men with tears in their eyes watched the process ...
              1. Nikoha.2010
                Nikoha.2010 27 March 2014 12: 08
                0
                Here you can read the novel:
                http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Дальняя_авиация_Украины hi
      2. Army1
        Army1 26 March 2014 18: 30
        0
        Quote: LiSSyara
        Tu-22M3
        Maximum speed km / h
        at height 2300
        off the ground xnumx
        Cruising speed, km / h 930
        Practical range, km 7000
        Combat radius of action, km
        at supersonic speed 1500-1850
        at subsonic speed near the ground 1500-1650
        at subsonic speed along the mixed 2410 profile
        Practical ceiling, m 13300
        Crew 4
        If "return" the refueling equipment in the air, then he goes from the category of the so-called "Euro bomber" to the category of a full-fledged strategist.

        Hello Sergey, is it possible that by 2020 only 30 cars will be upgraded to M3M?
        And in general, do we have any kind of secrecy: they said one thing, but will they buy-upgrade more?
    3. Nikoha.2010
      Nikoha.2010 26 March 2014 17: 01
      +11
      Quote: The same Lech
      Interestingly, the combat radius of these little birds is now where to reach ??

      6000km flight range, combat radius with a combat load of 12000kg-1850km, we reach where we need ... to Turkey some 300km. soldier
      1. asar
        asar 26 March 2014 20: 05
        +2
        solid! will be where our guys "frolic"! over the Black Sea, presumably, there will be superiority of Russia ?! and the Mediterranean is not far away! soldier
    4. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 26 March 2014 18: 33
      +1
      The supersonic range is -1850 km. At the sound end - 2410 km.
    5. DS22
      DS22 26 March 2014 19: 14
      0
      In the Mediterranean Sea, the AUG headed by J. Washington "... An excellent reason for our pilots to work out a training attack on an enemy's naval unit using bombs and missiles with paint ... put a marker, then the boat is for repair, the crew is disbanded.
  7. wulf66
    wulf66 26 March 2014 16: 47
    +8
    Well, thank God!!!
  8. PLO
    PLO 26 March 2014 16: 48
    -34%
    utter nonsense
    there are no unnecessary aircraft nor the need for a Tu-22M3 in the Crimea; AUGs cannot appear in the Black Sea
    1. Tig_1971
      Tig_1971 26 March 2014 16: 51
      +15
      They will reach the Mediterranean Sea from there
      1. PLO
        PLO 26 March 2014 16: 52
        -1
        Do not say nonsense.
        who will let them through Turkey?
        1. polite people
          polite people 26 March 2014 17: 07
          +24
          And who will ask.
          1. PLO
            PLO 26 March 2014 17: 22
            0
            indeed, no one will.
            they will be knocked down and that's it
            1. Army1
              Army1 26 March 2014 18: 36
              +2
              Quote: olp
              indeed, no one will.
              they will be knocked down and that's it

              Our planes just won't fly, of course they can be shot down. But if it comes to the global furry animal, then not only Turkey, but also its overseas-European friends will be at risk of existence. It's not just about nuclear weapons.
            2. niki233
              niki233 26 March 2014 19: 28
              0
              not touched 101%
              1. PLO
                PLO 26 March 2014 19: 34
                +1
                in 2008, they also thought so. eventually shot down Tu-22M3.

                we have nothing to cover missile carriers in the Mediterranean. unless someday there will be a full-fledged air base in Syria.
            3. 1c-inform-city
              1c-inform-city 26 March 2014 22: 03
              +1
              The fact is that if they fly to Middle-earth, then Turkey is no longer there.
            4. svp67
              svp67 26 March 2014 23: 21
              0
              Quote: olp
              utter nonsense
              there are no unnecessary aircraft nor the need for a Tu-22M3 in the Crimea; AUGs cannot appear in the Black Sea

              Quote: Tig_1971
              They will reach the Mediterranean Sea from there

              Quote: olp
              Do not say nonsense.
              who will let them through Turkey?

              Quote: polite people
              And who will ask.

              Quote: olp
              indeed, no one will.
              they will be knocked down and that's it


              That's right, first "Backfires" will help solve the "problem of straits", and then the Mediterranean Sea ...
        2. fzr1000
          fzr1000 26 March 2014 17: 07
          +10
          Iskander or something like that will "come to an agreement" with Turkey.
        3. moremansf
          moremansf 26 March 2014 17: 53
          +4
          Previously, they flew without problems and not only TU-22М3 ... TU-95RC, TU-142, TU-16R, IL-38, BE-12, AN-12R ... Based on the airfields of Syria, Libya, Egypt ... And now there is an agreement in the leadership of Cyprus on the basing of our aviation ... flew through Hungary and Yugoslavia ... I think that now there are optimal flights for our aviation ... and flew not only from the Crimea, but also from the Baltic and the North .. .
          1. Aleksey_K
            Aleksey_K 26 March 2014 18: 40
            0
            Yes, they fly and will fly in the framework of international "agreements" at the UN. Therefore, Turkey, for example, did not let the American aircraft carrier through. Therefore, Russia does not have a nuclear fleet in the Black Sea.
          2. PLO
            PLO 26 March 2014 19: 31
            0
            Before, there were a lot of things, but now there is no Yugoslavia.
            Turkey, as a member of NATO, will never let us in if something happens. Romania is also asking for NATO.
            Bulgaria except that in peacetime it will pass, but if the EU and NATO pressures it will also close the sky.

            so it’s still necessary to fly to Cyprus, and Cyprus has not yet agreed to the permanent deployment of military aircraft. the maximum that the MTO point for ships shines there and basing of tankers is possible.

            Another important factor is that no more than 22 squadrons remained flying Tu-3M4, while the MPA is much more important in the Northern Fleet and in the Pacific Fleet.

            so that the Su-24 in the Guards or future Su-30SM or Su-34 there fully perform the necessary tasks
          3. FID
            FID 26 March 2014 19: 38
            0
            Quote: moremansf
            TU-22M3 ... TU-95RC, TU-142, TU-16R, IL-38, BE-12, AN-12P ... Based on the airfields of Syria, Libya, Egypt.

            Tu-22M3 outside the USSR ??? You do not confuse? Tu-22M2 - yes, but triples ???
        4. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 26 March 2014 18: 37
          +2
          This is not stupid. When the war - everything was ... shouted at other states, and even they will get, by the very ... thrust.
        5. niki233
          niki233 26 March 2014 19: 27
          +2
          and who will ask the Turks soldier
          1. PLO
            PLO 26 March 2014 19: 39
            -2
            so the Turks will not ask either.
            will the fighter jets raise and all that you will fight back from them?
            1. 1c-inform-city
              1c-inform-city 26 March 2014 22: 09
              +1
              And who told you that they will fly alone?
              1. PLO
                PLO 27 March 2014 00: 55
                0
                and who will accompany them?
                Do we have fighters with a combat radius of more than 1000km?
            2. Fanat1984
              Fanat1984 26 March 2014 23: 56
              0
              Listen to you, so in our country there are no interceptors ... fool
    2. Tig_1971
      Tig_1971 26 March 2014 16: 51
      +3
      They will reach the Mediterranean Sea from there
    3. Fanat1984
      Fanat1984 26 March 2014 23: 54
      0
      And why did you suddenly decide that they would send extra planes there, they would buy new ones!
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  10. Valter1364
    Valter1364 26 March 2014 16: 48
    +8
    Good news! Crimea without strategic aviation, like Crimea without the good old Crimean wine. yes
  11. sinukvl
    sinukvl 26 March 2014 16: 49
    +23
    This is the thing! Well, fine!
    1. Tig_1971
      Tig_1971 26 March 2014 17: 15
      +11
      Beautiful, scoundrel! Scary, but beautiful!
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  12. konvalval
    konvalval 26 March 2014 16: 49
    +3
    HOORAY! Go Russia! Stay away, Mr. Adversary.
  13. podpolkovnik
    podpolkovnik 26 March 2014 16: 49
    +17
    And if they still return the equipment for refueling in the air ...

    On the night of 14 on May 1976 of the year, on a production Tu-22М2 under the command of V. Borisov, a test flight was carried out for a maximum range with one air refueling. The flight range of the aircraft was about 7000 km. The flight was recorded by American intelligence satellites, and the very next day a flight map was provided by the American delegation at the talks in Geneva to reduce strategic offensive arms of the OSV-2. Despite all the efforts of the USSR delegation led by Minister of Foreign Affairs A. Gromyko, the Americans insisted on the inclusion of the Tu-22М2 in the list of strategic forces of the USSR, although, in fact, this aircraft could not work across the United States. After long and difficult negotiations, an agreement was reached on dismantling refueling rods from all machines and limiting the mass production of the Tu-22M at the 30 level of machines per year.
    The Americans conducted active reconnaissance and were well aware of the effectiveness of a possible combat use.

    The main weapon of the aircraft is the anti-ship hypersonic cruise missile X-22Н with a lightweight HE-explosive warhead capable of piercing a hole with an area of ​​22 m² and a depth of up to 12 m in the side of the ship. The aircraft plows the area equivalent to the area of ​​22 standard football fields with one hit with free-falling bombs. Possibilities of sighting equipment allow a single bomb to enter the barn from a ten-kilometer height.
  14. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 26 March 2014 16: 49
    +13
    Russia in the Crimea!
  15. Yarik
    Yarik 26 March 2014 16: 49
    +8
    Significantly strengthens the position of the Black Sea Fleet. More precisely, it expands the possibilities. Great news.
  16. mamont5
    mamont5 26 March 2014 16: 50
    +13
    Crimea is our unsinkable aircraft carrier. Was! There is! And will be!
  17. fregina1
    fregina1 26 March 2014 16: 51
    +7
    All TU 22M3 upgrade !!! And it seems there were more than 100! Where the gliders did not exhaust the resource, everything must be restored !!! And it is necessary to develop a new jet strike missile carrier! PAK YES has completely different goals! I think we'll hear about the development soon! Attack missile aircraft is what aligns us with NATO! Massed 130 missile carriers, under the guise of fighters demolish any fleet!
    1. Just Vasilich
      Just Vasilich 26 March 2014 17: 24
      +1
      All TU 22М3 upgrade !!! And it seems there were more than 100!

      "In total in Russia at the moment of the 115 Tu-22M3 are fully combat-ready are the order of 40 machines... The modernization of 30 bombers is planned until 2020. For 2012, 1 aircraft of this type was re-equipped, which is currently undergoing a set of tests. "

      Source: http://topwar.ru/21963-tu-22m3m-vtoraya-molodost-izvestnogo-bombardirovschika.ht
      ml
      1. Just Vasilich
        Just Vasilich 26 March 2014 18: 13
        0
        I also recommend for enthusiastic jingoistic patriots to look at the materials on the Vozdvizhenka airbase in Primorsky Krai. Very sobering, you know ... For example this:
        http://my.mail.ru/mail/noct86/photo?album_id=1111
        1. shuhartred
          shuhartred 26 March 2014 18: 54
          0
          Quote: Just Vasilich
          I also recommend for enthusiastic jingoistic patriots to look at the materials on the Vozdvizhenka airbase in Primorsky Krai. Very sobering, you know ... For example this:
          http://my.mail.ru/mail/noct86/photo?album_id=1111

          So what? They closed the unnecessary base, and disposed of aircraft unsuitable for further operation. What should sober up here?
      2. shuhartred
        shuhartred 26 March 2014 18: 55
        +1
        Quote: Just Vasilich
        All TU 22М3 upgrade !!! And it seems there were more than 100!

        "In total in Russia at the moment of the 115 Tu-22M3 are fully combat-ready are the order of 40 machines... The modernization of 30 bombers is planned until 2020. For 2012, 1 aircraft of this type was re-equipped, which is currently undergoing a set of tests. "

        Source: http://topwar.ru/21963-tu-22m3m-vtoraya-molodost-izvestnogo-bombardirovschika.ht

        ml

        Nobody has canceled strategic misinformation yet.
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 26 March 2014 17: 53
      +3
      Quote: fregina1
      To upgrade all TU 22M3 !!! ... And it is necessary to develop a new rocket attack carrier!

      After M3, the elaborations of M4 and M5 were beaten.
      "Tu-22M5
      Project. Development began in 1997. Modification of the wing contours, improvement of local aerodynamics and quality of external surfaces was performed in order to reduce the RCS. Expansion of the range of weapons of destruction: 4 KR X-101 or 6-8 X-555. Installation of a flight control system at low altitude. Modernization of avionics. Development, no prototype ". Http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2%D1%83-22%D0%9C
      1. FID
        FID 26 March 2014 18: 43
        +2
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        After M3, the elaborations of M4 and M5 were beaten.
        "Tu-22M5
        Project. Development began in 1997. Modification of the wing contours, improvement of local aerodynamics and quality of external surfaces was performed in order to reduce the RCS. Expansion of the range of weapons of destruction: 4 KR X-101 or 6-8 X-555. Installation of a flight control system at low altitude. Modernization of avionics. Development, no prototype ". Http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2%D1%83-22%D0%9C

        Forgive generously - utter nonsense. Low-altitude flight (NVP) was used ONLY on 2-3 vehicles (sea reconnaissance), they did not go into the series. It is now planned to finalize up to 22M3M, but there are no motors yet, and the avionics are ready. Do not blindly believe Vika, they sometimes write such nonsense.
        1. gispanec
          gispanec 26 March 2014 19: 02
          +1
          Quote: SSI
          Do not blindly believe Vika, they sometimes write such nonsense.

          Yes, this wiki drives 45% and fools in bulk - you need to believe what you see and what you know 100%
          1. FID
            FID 26 March 2014 19: 06
            +2
            Fire is my first love and work ...
  18. Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 26 March 2014 16: 52
    +5
    ... "The necessary and sufficient number of naval missile carriers will appear here." ...

    SUFFICIENT amount !!! laughing Balm for the soul ...
  19. Antibrim
    Antibrim 26 March 2014 16: 52
    +2
    glorious traditions need to be renewed) Europe will be in fear now) there will be many squeals. Shoigu is the right minister!
  20. askort154
    askort154 26 March 2014 16: 53
    +4
    I wonder what is the fate of the 20 Tu-22 M3 remaining in Ukraine?
    1. Sochi
      Sochi 26 March 2014 16: 57
      +3
      sad ...
    2. tchack
      tchack 26 March 2014 17: 03
      +3
      They drank them a long time ago in connection with the elimination of long-range aviation. Remained a couple of pieces in non-flying condition in museums.
  21. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 26 March 2014 16: 54
    +1
    Unsinkable aircraft carrier must be loaded with equipment! good
  22. marder4
    marder4 26 March 2014 16: 55
    +1
    from where it came to ... I don’t know the strategists in FIG - but they won’t hurt
  23. Lich
    Lich 26 March 2014 16: 56
    +2
    Only not strategic but tactical bomber

    There is a rational grain - to cover the sea until the submarines are built
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 26 March 2014 18: 00
      +4
      Quote: Lich
      Only not strategic but tactical bomber

      If you were not too lazy to look at least at the Wiki, then to your greatest surprise you would know that:
      "Tu-22M (product" 45 ", NATO codification: Backfire) is a long-range supersonic missile-carrier bomber with variable wing geometry.
      Well, M3, M3M, M4 and the M5 project are just modifications of the Tu-22M base model.
      1. Lich
        Lich 26 March 2014 19: 21
        +1
        Ok ok, according to old memory they ranked him as older modifications. Well, if it flies further than 5000, it means strategic.

        Since the Western partners so diligently destroyed them in Ukraine in the early 2000s, it means that their return to duty will even more distort the faces of our "friends".
        1. FID
          FID 26 March 2014 19: 29
          0
          Quote: Lich
          Well, if it flies further than 5000, it means strategic.

          Yes, he is not a strategist, far! Strategists are Tu-160 and Tu-95, and fire is a long-range bomber.
  24. fregina1
    fregina1 26 March 2014 16: 56
    +25
    I think someday, in Priluki and Poltava, a young commander of a regiment of new Russian bombers ... with a sledgehammer will approach the monument on the liquidation of TU 160 and Tu 95 and how he will give the names of the American senators on this shiny tablet! And record it on tape! And in the evening we’ll drink a glass for the sake of such a thing .... and remember the White Swans, some of which did not pour even 100 hours! Let us recall the treacherous betrayal of our people, hundreds of thousands of hours of work and the enormous amount of labor of a Soviet man, ditched by a drunken drunk EBN and his comrades!
  25. Vtel
    Vtel 26 March 2014 16: 57
    +2
    Oh, the noise will be gentlemen, for all the tonsils. But nothing can be done, since GDP has been prescribed, it will have to be accepted for GDP.
    1. shuhartred
      shuhartred 26 March 2014 18: 56
      0
      Quote: Vtel
      Oh, the noise will be gentlemen, for all the tonsils. But nothing can be done, since GDP has been prescribed, it will have to be accepted for GDP.

      On the runway
  26. Siberian19
    Siberian19 26 March 2014 16: 58
    +18
    That’s nice, but they’ve completely forgotten who they are dealing with!
  27. MaKeNa
    MaKeNa 26 March 2014 16: 59
    0
    And what until 2016 to pull? Come on early!
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 26 March 2014 17: 03
      +4
      Quote: MaKeNa
      And what until 2016 to pull? Come on early!

      It is necessary to repair, refit, etc. Not all at once ...
      By the way, where will the Tu-22 be taken from, transferred from other airfields, or will they restore something from the reserve?
  28. RN40Y45
    RN40Y45 26 March 2014 16: 59
    +2
    The 71st training ground needs to be restored!
  29. 52
    52 26 March 2014 17: 00
    +3
    Good news! Of course, for "Backfire" the Black Sea as for an elephant is a small-sized kitchen, but besides the main hypostasis this aircraft has a lot of other modifications. And in general, we get our own mini-strategist in this region. So to speak, the "big stick" of Uncle Vova.
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  31. mabuta
    mabuta 26 March 2014 17: 02
    +24
    Great news! Great possible argument!
    1. shuhartred
      shuhartred 26 March 2014 18: 58
      0
      Quote: mabuta
      Great news! Great possible argument!

      This is not likes. This is a stat in WoWarplanes.
  32. Mhpv
    Mhpv 26 March 2014 17: 02
    +3
    Now also the Turks will be constantly in good shape, like the Japanese.
    The joint headquarters of Japan estimated that only from July to September this year, fighters took to the air 105 times due to the appearance of Russian aircraft.
    laughing
    1. On the bayonet
      On the bayonet 26 March 2014 17: 14
      +1
      The Turks are not up to tone yet, they are fighting with Facebook and YouTube, like Don Quixote with the mills)))
  33. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 26 March 2014 17: 05
    +10
    Well, they brought a lot of "goodies" to Crimea, for potential "sworn friends":
    SCRK "Bastion"


    SCRC "Ball"

    ZPRK "Pantsir C1


    What does this mean? That C-400 appeared in Crimea, since the armor divisions are included in the C-400 regiments. Just in the anti-aircraft defense of the Shell there is no armor. Here, by the way, is the confirmation of my humble theory. Allegedly, the photo was taken in Sevastopol.

    BM-27 "Hurricane"

    Radar 2T2 39N6E "Casta"

    2A65 "Msta-B"
    1. On the bayonet
      On the bayonet 26 March 2014 17: 19
      +1
      Something in general no disguise on technology. So it would be nice to camouflage mail cars for coal or mail cars. I don’t intend to teach anyone, but I would prefer to hide the strategic info from the greedy eyes of others)
      1. Homo
        Homo 26 March 2014 17: 51
        +9
        What disguise? This is moral and psychological pressure on the enemy! They brought it, unfurled it and hung a poster "We are waiting for a visit"!
        1. On the bayonet
          On the bayonet 26 March 2014 18: 51
          0
          From this point, you say correctly) But imagine another effect - "surprise!" to attempt any aggressive movement)
      2. Gvozdovsky
        Gvozdovsky 26 March 2014 17: 54
        +6
        In the current conditions, I think, it is worthwhile to show once again the presence of muscles, so that individuals with a weak psyche do not have illusions on the topic "and not whether we should wave a saber" tongue
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    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 26 March 2014 18: 08
      +4
      Quote: Novel 1977
      Well, they brought a lot of "goodies" to Crimea

      Roma! Thank you so much for the photo. You are always true to yourself: it is better to see once than to hear 7 times! Thank.
  34. lexa-xa
    lexa-xa 26 March 2014 17: 06
    +1
    It’s time, it’s time to pump up Crimea with technology and people!
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 26 March 2014 17: 16
      +4
      Crimea is an all-Russian health resort and it needs to be pumped up with other complexes. Well, and these will provide peace of mind in the health resort. And yet Infrastructure, food and finance in the first place. yes
  35. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 26 March 2014 17: 07
    +3
    Quote: mamont5
    Crimea is our unsinkable aircraft carrier. Was! There is! And will be!

    Cool! Yes, I'm afraid to ask about Alaska. In the future.
  36. alex47russ
    alex47russ 26 March 2014 17: 09
    +5
    And this is just the beginning of banderlog !!! We are near! We, like Grandfather Frost, know who behaved badly and who needs to put a piston in ..... poo!
  37. polite people
    polite people 26 March 2014 17: 09
    +1
    What they wanted to do with the Crimea. THAT was done by RUSSIA - made from an unsinkable aircraft carrier a base for the threat of all of NATO in the southern region.
  38. Gagarin
    Gagarin 26 March 2014 17: 19
    +3
    PRETTY BOY!!!
    Quote: fregina1
    I think someday, in Priluki and Poltava, will approach the monument
  39. RUS33
    RUS33 26 March 2014 17: 28
    +3
    Quote: Tig_1971
    Beautiful, scoundrel! Scary, but beautiful!

    Better like this: Handsome, but older.
  40. shelva
    shelva 26 March 2014 17: 30
    +2
    About tse will be garno. The Turks, together with their masters on NATO, can roll their lips. The Russian Crimea will completely control the Black Sea, and there are not far from the straits.
  41. chastener
    chastener 26 March 2014 17: 33
    +1
    Great news! To any country from the EU no more than 3-4 hours of summer bully
  42. fregina1
    fregina1 26 March 2014 17: 36
    +3
    The flagship of the Ukrainian Navy, the frigate "Getman Sagaidachny" left Odessa to carry out combat missions in Ukrainian territorial waters.
    http://warfiles.ru/show-51068-pridnestrovskie-specsluzhby-sbili-ukrainskiy-bespi
    lotnik.html

    The frigate left the port of Odessa on March 14 and arrived in a certain area of ​​the Black Sea. There he discovered four warships of the Russian Black Sea Fleet and two Mi-35 fire support helicopters. The Russians tried to cross the sea border of Ukraine.

    Sagaidachny commander Roman Pyatnitsky, captain of the first rank, entered into negotiations with violators and demanded that they leave the territorial waters of our country, but the enemy did not change course and continued to move towards Ukraine.

    In this regard, a combat alert was announced on the Ukrainian frigate, the ship became close to Russian units. As a result, the Russians retreated into neutral waters.

    The Sagaidachnoye armament was not used during the incident.

    Currently, the frigate continues to patrol the Ukrainian border.
    GUYS write almost the naval battle took place! ONLY ONE MISTAKE! Sagaidachny is NOT a FLAGMAN now, he is now a RAIDER! Since left alone lol ! From all their fleet! So, Romik Pyatnitsky, you command the frigate there, but do not drive much, otherwise we still have no time to repair this frigate! All production lines are busy!
  43. Serebryakov. 75
    Serebryakov. 75 26 March 2014 17: 38
    +9
    The end of the toothless era!
  44. rfgthfyu
    rfgthfyu 26 March 2014 17: 39
    0
    Interestingly, and "Thread" is also ours?
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 26 March 2014 17: 49
      +4
      Quote: rfgthfyu
      Interestingly, and "Thread" is also ours?

      read the news yesterday! of course ours ... hi
  45. kelevra
    kelevra 26 March 2014 17: 45
    +1
    Good strategic shield
  46. Turkir
    Turkir 26 March 2014 17: 48
    +2
    Turks are not happy. Airplanes are closer, and holiday makers are further.
  47. Artem1967
    Artem1967 26 March 2014 17: 53
    +3
    The excellent strategic position of Crimea should be used to the maximum. NATO members Turkey and Romania will think a thousand times about the consequences of possible anti-Russian actions. Yes, and Ukraine is useful to know.
    1. DAYMAN
      DAYMAN 26 March 2014 17: 56
      +4
      Romania? Who is it? Gypsies? lol
  48. Archimedes
    Archimedes 26 March 2014 17: 55
    +2
    Great news. I really hope that there will not be another theft of budget funds, and everything will go to a real increase in the defense capability of the Russian Federation.
  49. Vyacheslav 64
    Vyacheslav 64 26 March 2014 18: 00
    +3
    Quote: rfgthfyu
    Interestingly, and "Thread" is also ours?

    Of course OUR !!!
  50. Ivan 63
    Ivan 63 26 March 2014 18: 05
    +2
    The thread is by itself (though somewhat late) We need to think about the infrastructure and production capacities that should be part of the USC holding, and Nikolaev (as opposed to the south) is still seemingly silent, maybe they have already forgotten why they were being built?