Obama Decides to Stop Purchasing Tomahawks and Hellfires

These are the Tomahawk CD and the Hellfire ATGM procured for the US Navy.

At 2015, Obama proposes that the Tomahawk, which is called the most advanced cruise missile in the world, be sent for the purchase of the Kyrgyz Republic only 128 million dollars, and in 2016, they will be completely stopped. This means that if last year the Pentagon purchased 196 missiles of this type, then in the 2015 year there will be only 100, in 2016 - none. The Navy will also be forced to cancel the purchase of well-proven Hellfire light multipurpose missiles in 2015.

The proposed abolition of these two missile programs came as a shock to lawmakers and military experts, who warned that without these missiles, America’s ability to restrain its opponents would be greatly undermined.

During the military campaign against Libya in 2011, around the Tomahawks 220 was used. On average, almost 100 missiles of this type are launched per year, which means that the termination of purchases will lead to the fact that the stock of missiles will be completely exhausted by about the 2018 year. This is of particular concern to military experts, since the Pentagon currently does not have a missile capable of replacing the Tomahawk.

According to some experts, the promising LRASM CR currently under development will be ready for combat use only in 10 years.

The Pentagon did not respond to a request to comment on these decisions of the president.

Comments

[Rus2012]

Obama Decides to Stop Purchasing Tomahawks and Hellfires

Barak Huseynovich decided to bury the Rusty Ax in a long box?
Well do Obamacar more expensive ...

[starhina01]

Quote: Rus2012

Obama Decides to Stop Purchasing Tomahawks and Hellfires

Barak Huseynovich decided to bury the Rusty Ax in a long box?
Well do Obamacar more expensive ...

rusty ax played in a box because of finances

[Strezhevchanin]

Quote: Rus2012

Barak Huseynovich decided to bury the Rusty Ax in a long box? Well, do Obamakar more expensive ...

Well, of course, why would he need these rusty axes, right now he needs to think about missile defense along the border, and they will play these toys in Poland

[Letun]

Quote: Strezhevchanin

and they’ll play these toys in Poland

And good ones in the same way that he sucked them in to Iraq and Libya.

[Lord of the Sith]

Well, to be fair, they have already purchased quite a lot of Tomahawks.

In 2012, the U.S. Navy ordered from Raytheon 361 Tomahawk Block IV cruise missile with a total value of $ 338 million. The agreement provides for the transfer of 238 vertical launch missiles for surface ships and 123 missiles for submarines. Delivery must end in August 2014 of the year.

Media
23 nuclear submarines of the Los Angeles type, 12 KR;
4 Ohio-class submarines, up to 154 missile launchers (7 missiles in drum-type launchers for each of 22 mines from Trident SLBMs, actually 98-140 missiles, depending on the composition of the special operations forces);
3 submarines of the Sivulf type, up to 50 charges for torpedo tubes, including cruise missiles;
9 submarines of the Virginia type, up to 12 KR;
The British submarine type "Suiftshur" displacement 4900 tons, 5 torpedo tubes, 20 torpedoes and missiles;
The British submarine type Trafalgar displacement 5200 tons, 5 torpedo tubes, 25 torpedoes and missiles;
British strike submarine of the Astyut type (2007, the first of four of this class), displacement of 7200/7800 tons, service life ~ 30 years, 6 torpedo tubes, 48 ​​torpedoes and missiles;
61 destroyers of the Arly Burke type in service, the capacity of two VPU Mk41 of the Aegis system is 90/96 cells (depending on the ship series). In the universal version of armament, the ship carries 8 "Tomahawks", in the shock - 56;
22 missile cruisers of the “Ticonderoga” type, VPU Mk41 capacity of the Aegis system - 122 cells, typical load - 26 KR “Tomahawk”;
Since 2016, the launch of 2 new DDG-1000 destroyers with 80 launchers each.

Multiply and see the total. You can also add to the hosted ships some more stored at bases around the world.

[GRANATE-19]

And at US near Moscow a new S-400 regiment has entered! And the ring closed!

[Weniamin]

Interesting video in the topic.

[TAMERLAN 7]

The proposed abolition of these two missile programs came as a shock to lawmakers and military experts, who warned that without these missiles, America’s ability to restrain its opponents would be greatly undermined.

Here are the men! There is no worse enemy for the camp than the internal! Thank you, Barack, for undermining the combat capability of the United States! We need to give him a medal for services to Russia!

But seriously - did he even understand what he had done?

[max702]

It starts to work out the peace prize issued in advance ...

[0255]

Quote: max702

It starts to work out the peace prize issued in advance ...

Obama must do something good in his miserable worthless life.

[mamont5]

Quote: TAMERLAN 7

But seriously - did he even understand what he had done?

Saves like. Surrendered in an independent.

[Tyler Durden]

Quote: TAMERLAN 7

But seriously - did he even understand what he had done?

What did he do?

On average, almost 100 missiles of this type are launched per year, which means that the cessation of purchases will lead to the fact that the supply of missiles will be completely exhausted by about 2018 year.

This news reports The Washington Free Bacon In short, the hamster is not able even on his fingers

That is, if you look at the Navy now ¿300? rockets.

In the arsenal of the U.S. Navy there are about 4000 Tomahawk which are enough as a min. until 2030, and if you keep in mind that in 2020 there will be a new cruise missile using the Stealth technology, then everything is nishtyak no reason to panic.

[Zerstorer]

I haven’t done anything yet. HZ what are they really doing there. For example, it may turn out that this is about purchasing additional missiles, and not about replenishing ammunition. So let's not rush to conclusions.

[alex-s]

Barak Huseynovich decided to bury the Rusty Ax in a long box?

Or maybe they’re afraid that these tomahawks will fly back to them?

[platitsyn70]

Barak Huseynovich decided to bury the Rusty Ax in a long box?
Well do Obamacar more expensive ...

no, he’s afraid of Russia, he thinks, well, of this Putin, he poured two ears of mud on me with shit, he smeared it better I hid and shut up and I will not bomb anyone, let them understand after me.

[podpolkovnik]

If GDP saved on Ukrainian loans and builds ships and planes, then Obama saves on missiles to credit Khokhkhlov .....

[tilovaykrisa]

Obamych pleases me more and more with his resemblance to Gorbatov, who also cut and destroyed the most promising weapons, it pleases me that this is happening now with us, but with us it is just the opposite.

[bvi1965]

Or maybe they came up with a new one in return?

[Boa kaa]

Quote: bvi1965

Or maybe they came up with a new one in return?

Invented, wickedness! And in order to free the cellars for storing the new CDs, they will try to dispose of the old Axes "for the benefit of democracy", unloading them through the Mk41 launcher.
Prospective CR LRASM will come to replace them.
"The implementation of the joint program DARPA and the US Navy began in 2009 with the aim of creating a new generation of missiles, which would have high autonomy, survivability, lethality, would be equipped with intelligent search and detection systems, data processing and minimally dependent on external information collection systems , reconnaissance and guidance, data transmission channels and GPS satellite navigation system.
LRASM is developed in the interests of the US Air Force and Navy. It is anticipated that LRASM will be able to hit targets at any time of the day and in difficult weather conditions.
At the end of the 2010 of the year, two contracts with a total value of 218 million dollars were concluded with Lockheed Martin for the development and demonstration of two LRASM projects.
LRASM-A is being developed by the Strike Control division in Orlando (Florida) as an inconspicuous subsonic cruise missile equipped with additional sensors, which has high survivability on the basis of the airborne missile defense project AGM-158B JASSM-ER with additional sensors and systems. It is assumed that the LRASM-A will be equipped with a high-explosive fragmentation warhead.
LRASM-B Designed by Tactical Missiles in Grand Prairie, Texas, as a subtle supersonic maneuverable missile with a ramjet engine.
BAe Systems is developing a multisensor guidance system for two LRASM variants. The missile seeker will include radar and electro-optical / IR channels for target detection and identification on the final leg of the flight path. "Http://ikorotchenko.livejournal.com/595748.html

[alexng]

Quote: Rus2012

Barak Huseynovich decided to bury the Rusty Ax in a long box?
Well do Obamacar more expensive ...

Yes, after our "Avtobaza" demonstrated its capabilities, their axes turned into useless toys. Therefore, the wash disappeared in their purchase. This is how these Yusovsky goats need it.

[Revolver]

Well, the Axes are still okay, let's say they do not plan a large consumption. But Hellfire is exactly what they urinate from drones of any al-Qaeda, Taliban, and other Islamists. Israel is also actively wetting all kinds of hezbalons, Hamas, and Islamic jihadists with them. They hit very accurately, selectively, and reliably, and the impact force is such that the SUV turns into a bunch of twisted scrap metal, even it does not seem to determine what it was, well, not surprisingly, they were originally developed as anti-tank. It’s a very useful thing, and it’s impossible to stop production, well, unless you have already created a considerable supply.
But after B. Hussein Obama there will be another president, and something tells me that it will be a Republican. And the president’s military budget is just offered, but approved by Congress. Usually even the most liberal shit-pigeon dove becomes a hawk if the question is about jobs in his constituency. Especially high-quality jobs like the military industry. A large plant, as a rule, feeds several districts, besides allies all over America. There were many precedents when Congress refused to approve reductions, even approved by the military.

[52]

Quite rightly, it is proposed, not reduced. Here is a file "ZVO" for 1982-91 pages. Nothing new under the moon, except dates ... And the medal must be worked out ...

[Tyler Durden]

Quote: Nagan

But Hellfire - this is exactly what they urinate from drones of all al-Qaida, the Taliban, and other Islamists

Stopped buying Hellfire specifically for the Navy, the Army will still purchase. And new missiles are already in service.

[alexng]

Yes, but this UAV must still fly up to the distance of the Hellfire shot, and the performance characteristics are not very good for a normal enemy.
http://www.vonovke.ru/s/agm-114_hellfire
They simply will not be allowed to fly to the distance of the shot.
In Crimea, two were shot down and two were imprisoned. And these toys sit down to the disgrace just. The communication channel with the operator is jammed and the device switches to the automatic return mode to the base according to GPS signals. This is where the most interesting thing begins: the "carpool" gives him the recalculated new coordinates of the false GPS and thus this kukaracha sits there, when the "carpool" operator lands him. In the same way, axes fired at Syria by Americans were dropped into the sea and immediately after that they quickly agreed to Russia's proposals on chemical weapons in Syria. That is why Bardak Abramka looks gray lately. Now they shy away, like the devil from incense, from direct clashes with Russia in any form. And Obama's last statement in The Hague that neither Ukraine nor Georgia will join NATO is a clear confirmation of this.

[alexng]

Some American "sos" cowardly minus without comment. This American blow job won't save you. The United States is now in a state of agony and you, too, will become useless.

[Army1]

Well, all the end to the states without tomahawks, now Iraqi partisans on camels will take over Washington

[Siberian19]

Fedya talked politely like that!

[StolzSS]

We can only welcome this decision. It will strengthen peace on the planet !!

[Gluxar_]

Quote: Rus2012

Barak Huseynovich decided to bury the Rusty Ax in a long box?
Well do Obamacar more expensive ...

Such decisions at least give the United States a chance to survive the impending collapse. Not understanding in his yard to climb to the neighbors is not handy.

[leohid]

they have bins in full! What America produces in a week, Russia produces in a year at best! they have bins in full! What America produces in a week, Russia produces in a year at best!

[leohid]

in their bins it’s full! What America produces in a week, Russia produces in a year at best!

[leohid]

in their bins it’s full! What America produces in a week, Russia produces in a year at best!

[starhina01]

Quote: leohid

in their bins it’s full! What America produces in a week, Russia produces in a year at best!

ATTACHED THE PLATE? relax and enjoy

[saber1357]

Recently, there are two CLASS jokes about America.

1.https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/alaska-back-russia/SFG1ppfN

2. "Obama is a major in the GRU". - Then everything is clear with tomahawks ...

[Wiruz]

The Pentagon did not respond to a request to comment on these decisions of the president.

Because GDP said Obama so

[Sewer]

ha ha thanks, laughed!

[platitsyn70]

Because GDP said Obama so

Because GDP said Obama so

[Siberian19]

Even I did not understand, what is this solution? Who in the subject please explain!

[Rus2012]

Quote: Siberian19

Even I did not understand, what is this solution? Who in the subject please explain!

it’s all in the context of cutting budget expenditures

[rasputin17]

Quote: Rus2012

Quote: Siberian19

Even I did not understand, what is this solution? Who in the subject please explain!

it’s all in the context of cutting budget expenditures

Yes, there are no other problems here. I won’t believe that they would just refuse to purchase the main missiles in service !! Not that he plans to start purchasing Russian systems or Chinese.

[Rus2012]

Quote: rasputin17

I won’t believe that they would just refuse to purchase the main missiles in service !!

the fact is that the arsenals are full, the nearest expense is not visible on the horizon. There are only losses in the treasury. Therefore, why not.

True, the military will not be happy (there is no rollback), because the fence of the hut can be demolished ...
But, that’s their business ...

[Nayhas]

Quote: Rus2012

the fact is that the arsenals are full, the nearest expense is not visible on the horizon. There are only losses in the treasury. Therefore, why not.

As they write about this news, the consumption of the Kyrgyz Republic Tomahawk 100 pcs. per year, in connection with this, the available stock will last until 2018.
But Obama would have saved a fucking socialist on food stamps, but damn he’s afraid of losing the drug-nigerian electorate ...

[I read the news]

They already have plenty of them, but nowhere to spend.
Purchased in advance in the calculation of Syria and Ukraine.

[Gagarin]

While its new is not ready, Russia will probably have X-101 to buy!)))

[vadimalehin76]

Let them buy, we just forget to stop the clockwork

[inkass_98]

Quote: vadimalehin76

we just forget the clockwork stop

Or we will deliver directly to the object, under its own power.

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: inkass_98

Quote: vadimalehin76

we just forget the clockwork stop

Or we will deliver directly to the object, under its own power.

[svetlomor]

But Obama is not a Cossack mishandled, everything harms and harms the USA ?!

[Colorman]

Yes, he is ours. America is slowly falling apart from the inside ...

[Ruswolf]

Colorman
Yes, he is ours. America is slowly falling apart

Operational nickname - "Smoked"
Whoever asked for money, he has one answer
- "Tile, tile! - Which tile?"

[user1212]

Order to Major SVR Obama!

[Oleg14774]

Quote: user1212

Order to Major SVR Obama!

Here I read and I think that the spirit of people has risen and that’s good, but here are more comments with overkill, guys don’t burrow! The enemy is strong and there are many, narcissism does not lead to good. Self-confidence is a very dangerous thing, and sometimes just fatal!

[alex-s]

What are you guys Shtirlitsa shoot ?!

[podpolkovnik]

Of course ours, Borka Abakumov, did not recognize tea?

[Nayhas]

Quote: podpolkovnik

Of course ours, Borka Abakumov, did not recognize tea?

Actually, Boris Kabanov, they say with Jackson his skin changed while he was alive ...

[Good cat]

Even strange, is it now white and fluffy?

[Russ69]

Maybe, under this case, Obama will stop buying media too ...

[q_556]

I always knew ...

[On the bayonet]

Hahaha))) Stumble! Does Snowden seem to be leaking?

[strannik595]

they have Bily (liquidated), we have White, legally acting saboteur

[inkass_98]

And here the medal is already ready for Obama, in the forefront will be awarded.

[Gagarin]

I will not be surprised if the following news is:
"In all cities of America there are currency exchange stalls with RUBLES."

[Coffee_time]

Well this is good people being done, America is cutting missiles, damn it, like an apocalypse soon. Or Obamych before leaving decided to merge the country ... misunderstandings

[wulf66]

Hmmm ... Obama to Eustace?

[parusnik]

Obama decided to stop the purchase of "Tomahawks" and "Hellfires" .. 5 billion dollars to give Ukraine to organize riots, so that Russia would annex Crimea .. The money ran out, there is nothing to go to the store for missiles .. And a word to the classics .. Nothing forever under the moon ... and ..
- You’d better be silent for a while:
Covered a premium in the quarter.
Who wrote me a complaint service?
Not you? Yes, I read them.
Besides this shirt, Zin,
You put on - one shame.
Arshin will suit you.
Where is the money?

[sinukvl]

Money tends to run out !!!

[gavr0209]

Or just the flags on the map with the words "enemies" are over ?? And in general, against whom to use these missiles - the old ones are rusty)) They would have found nuclear weapons in Ukraine, then it would be another matter, or chemical weapons in case of emergency ...
Ato it turns out that all the threats are only from Russia and China, with whom to fight then ??

[VseDoFeNi]

The Obamka for the Nobel Peace is also the hero of Russia. :)

[inkass_98]

Quote: VseDoFeNi

the Nobel of the world is also the hero of Russia. :)

So somehow

[GRAY]

The ax is an excellent target for normal air defense.
Maybe something new decided to stir up?

[johnsnz]

And I decided to buy the Russian X-101 / X-102!

[konvalval]

What can you do. Grandmas are over.

[Corsair0304]

This decision is unlikely to be spontaneous and due to lack of budget. Do not forget that Barak-shed is a protege of the US military-industrial complex. Most likely they did some h.r.e., well, or Barak wagged his tail to mislead. Normal subsonic missile. Old, however, with modifications.
I think that this is at the blah blah level.

[Sashka_Gusar]

Mustache jumped, the budget is bursting.

[ya.seliwerstov2013]

Quote: svetlomor

But Obama is not a Cossack mishandled, everything harms and harms the USA ?!

Yes, how diligently belittles our capabilities at all kinds of summits. Well, Volodya, the old KGB officer was not in vain flying to America. It will count! And the legend about the sanctions is very beautiful, many were bought !!!

[Altona]

The funny thing is that all the liberals unanimously claimed that our military in Crimea was attacked by these missiles and that they will defeat us all ...

[Chifka]

I say that Obama is actually a colonel of Russian foreign intelligence! You will see that at the end of the term he will retire, receive an SVR general and live in a dacha on Rublevka! We also read his memoirs: "How I omitted the USA" ....

[Gagarin]

America is already on the road to Perestroika, publicity, consensus!
SNN News will be renamed "Rebuild Spotlight".

[rasputin17]

Oh, something bad, he decided to stir up !!

[Cripple cross]

This GDP imposed sanctions against the United States.
The State Duma of the Russian Federation, when voted by a majority, banned the United States from producing Tamagavk missiles.

[Delink]

They will soon really not need rockets. Soon they will install a powerful laser on the ship. They promise by the beginning of summer. Here is the reduction.

[Lars_xiii]

Yeah, overseas :)

[patsantre]

You can’t paint ground targets with a laser at a distance of 1500 km.

[0255]

Quote: patsantre

You can’t paint ground targets with a laser at a distance of 1500 km.

But how much dough can be cut on type-R&D of this laser Lockheed Martin with their fu-35 didn’t dream of such a cut

[Stasi]

Obama is called the "American Gorbachev." But each "Gorbachev" must have its own Shevardnadze (Shevi) and Yakovlev. In the USSR, Shevardnadze openly surrendered the country's interests to the Americans, accepting the most unfavorable foreign policy options for the USSR. Alexander Yakovlev is called "the gravedigger of the USSR". So far, there is not even a hint of such people in the American government. The head of the State Department, John Kerry, is clearly not a "Chevy", he firmly defends American interests. There is no man who could fit the role of "American Yakovlev, the gravedigger of the United States." Without such personalities, it will be difficult for Obama alone to carry out the "perestroika" program.

[Not angry]

Keri will substitute will accuse of crisis in Ukraine and will replace.

[Lissyara]

Serdyukov and Obama - "Brotherhood in Arms - 2014".

[Nayhas]

Quote: LiSSyara

Serdyukov and Obama - "Brotherhood in Arms - 2014".

... fuck, right to the point!

[Ivan Russky]

Chet is out of order in the United Kingdom, or the printing press has broken or the ink has run out. No wonder Obamych turned gray for a month.

[Gagarin]

A SHIP TO BUILD DIRECTLY IN A HYDRO POWER PLANT.

Quote: Delink

Soon they will install a powerful laser on the ship.

[Lissyara]

"Quote: Delink
They will soon be installing a powerful laser on the ship. "
Apparently in the form of a school laser pointer.
Today, by the way, an article on this topic was. About lasers on the Black Sea back in the days of the Admiral of the Navy of the USSR Gorshkov.
Shot once a day, and then the efficiency is only 5%.
So from 10 to floating power plants (the size of a tanker), and forward to victory (I don’t know what there), because in the near future it will all remain in dreams.
PS Does everyone have 2 answers to the forum?

[On the bayonet]

No. Norm Once, as expected. Virus in your information system?

[VNP1958PVN]

Here Obamov is working in America for us, already for the Order For Merit to the Fatherland! (From an overheard conversation in the GRU of the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation) Not for print!

[On the bayonet]

They are going to save budget funds!) They will make a catapult with an elastic band from cowards and with their fat people they will beat around the world. In vain that eh they fed up their inhabitants for so many years, they cooked for any "cannon fodder"))) A bomb in its purest form. True, there will be a lot of stench from it, worse than shells with depleted uranium!

[serega.fedotov]

I was always amazed - the weapon is completely tied to the satellite grouping, and at the same time is the main weapon of attack! And if you thin out the satellites, or establish interference, what will be the effectiveness of the tomahawks?

[FunkschNNX]

So they can be oriented in relief. True, there is also a nuance here: while the Pentagon is programming a flight task, we are changing the landscape, moreover, manually :-)

[patsantre]

There is an extreme correlation guidance system. In general, they will work, but not as accurately as under satellites.

[GRAY]

Satellites are not so easy to thin out, they are located at an altitude of about 20000 km.
In order to remove one you need a full-fledged space launch with an accelerating block and other canoes. With all this, the loss of one or even several devices will slightly affect the performance of the entire group.
The GPS signal can be drowned out in principle, but only on a relatively small area, and since the ax has an inertial guidance system (as well as an optical one that uses digital pictures of previously captured areas along the flight path of the Kyrgyz Republic), the deviation will be insignificant.
The main disadvantages of the ax are:
1) Cannot hit moving targets.
2) The cost of about 2 million American rubles.
3) It is not effective against Russia since industrial centers for the most part are far from the coast at the maximum range of missiles.
4) The shell is imprisoned just under them.

[Santa Fe]

On average, almost 100 missiles of this type are launched per year, which means that the cessation of purchases will lead to the fact that the supply of missiles will be completely exhausted by about 2018 year.

Is the stock of Axes in service with the US Navy just 200 units? Very strange

Moreover, each cruiser and destroyer are designed to accommodate 50 + SLCMs (in the ranks of 84 such ships)

And each of the 50 US Navy submarines is capable of carrying 12 to 154 Tomahawk cruise missiles

[From Germany]

400, not 200. Although 400, in my opinion, is a little true. From 2004 to February 2010, 2000 pieces of the R / UGM-109E Tomahawk Block IV (TacCom) were produced. So they have a lot of tomahawks of various other modifications.
Americans are getting dark. Maybe they want to adopt a new missile, about which nothing is yet known. And they don’t say anything about the new rocket, so that allies could push their old stuff away without problems.

[patsantre]

Rather 4000.

[alex47russ]

,, Colonel Kudasov beggar !!! Yes, yes BEGGAR !!! !!! How nice to know! Soon we will be setting fireplaces with their green candy wrappers !!!

[Vtel]

They believe it is more expensive, they have to see behind their bosoms.

[Lone gunman]

... this means they are preparing a new "rocket", when they make it, we will already have the S-500 and the weapon of retaliation-POPULAR 2

[Luga]

Only yesterday, while talking with a friend, he defended the point of view that the first sign of the beginning of the American monster’s gasp would be a reduction in the cost of producing weapons.
I wonder if orders for hatchets really end, how many unemployed will be added to the mattress?
Now we are waiting for news about the reduction of pensions and benefits, an increase in the cost of utilities and fuel prices. And why, the drummer himself is already a political corpse, even clearing the next condom ... he will clear the presenter for maneuver.

[DimYang]

I think they have something else, maybe not much, but just for us. I think this is a hypersonic weapon that was not advertised. And the Shuttle program was canceled not because there was not enough money, but most likely that something else was flying into space. The fact is that there was something like infa in the network about their new spacecraft, based on principles of movement different from the universally known principles of movement, but everything is at the level of rumors and low-quality photos, but here's a strange thing, gold, as soon as they abandoned the shuttles, jumped in price and it disappeared in the Federal Reserve System, now it is almost certain. Gold is a unique material for its conductivity. We read about the ancient VIMANS, and so they are described as if "from the golden color of the material." They are digging Amerskoye ANENERBE, to say Masonic correctly. They (the German unit) all went into hiding after the war. So no one was caught. Looks like someone helped them a lot, not the Jews with the Amersky masons?

[I read the news]

Silver is the "better" conductor.

[DimYang]

Gold has one advantage; it is capable, according to physicists, of creating its own fields of unknown nature under certain conditions. For which I do not know. But I think that this is precisely the case.

[0255]

Quote: dimyan

I think they have something else, maybe not much, but just for us. I think this is a hypersonic weapon that was not advertised. And the Shuttle program was canceled not because there was not enough money, but most likely that something else was flying into space. The fact is that there was something like infa in the network about their new spacecraft, based on principles of movement different from the universally known principles of movement, but everything is at the level of rumors and low-quality photos, but here's a strange thing, gold, as soon as they abandoned the shuttles, jumped in price and it disappeared in the Federal Reserve System, now it is almost certain. Gold is a unique material for its conductivity. We read about the ancient VIMANS, and so they are described as if "from the golden color of the material." They are digging Amerskoye ANENERBE, to say Masonic correctly. They (the German unit) all went into hiding after the war. So no one was caught. Looks like someone helped them a lot, not the Jews with the Amersky masons?

did you REN TV revisit? Also tell us about the Aurora bomber, which flies at speeds of M = 6 ........ 7

[DimYang]

It's not REN TV at all, although I also watch it sometimes, quite a few things are interesting, though they are served chaotically, I look for news and read it on various sites, including foreign ones. I read in the Western media, there are also very smart and thinking people there. REN TV generally just walks in the wake of this and brings it to the main mass in the most accessible form for a simple person, not burdened with such thoughts. Here is an example The Rothschilds and the Rockefellers made a pact and combined their assets. Nobody really advertised this event in the mainstream media, although it is very important and significant for those who at least understand something about what is happening. And REN TV showed this for a simple chela almost a year later. Well, you really do not understand the "mission" of such TV channels? It is they, and not the "honest" media, who notify the common people about these strangeness. And the people who watch the "honest media" seem to be dumbfounded. My personal observation. They are just zombies. They think about how to live today. Those who do not watch them at all - somehow they have a simpler attitude to life. But as they say to each his own. And personally, I don't need such media at all. It is enough to know what to read and where, and most importantly to draw conclusions.

[0255]

Quote: dimyan

It's not REN TV at all, although I also watch it sometimes, quite a few things are interesting, though they are served chaotically, I look for news and read it on various sites, including foreign ones. I read in the Western media, there are also very smart and thinking people there. REN TV generally just walks in the wake of this and brings it to the main mass in the most accessible form for a simple person, not burdened with such thoughts. Here is an example The Rothschilds and the Rockefellers made a pact and combined their assets. Nobody really advertised this event in the mainstream media, although it is very important and significant for those who at least understand something about what is happening. And REN TV showed this for a simple chela almost a year later. Well, you really do not understand the "mission" of such TV channels? It is they, and not the "honest" media, who notify the common people about these strangeness. And the people who watch the "honest media" seem to be dumbfounded. My personal observation. They are just zombies. They think about how to live today. Those who do not watch them at all - somehow they have a simpler attitude to life. But as they say to each his own. And personally, I don't need such media at all. It is enough to know what to read and where, and most importantly to draw conclusions.

Tie up this nonsense! I myself sometimes watch all sorts of Secret Territories from nothing to do.
The fact that the Rothschilds-Rockefellers really rule in the USA, that they themselves organized the September 11 attack, I have no doubt. And the Anunaki reptilians from the planet Nibiru, vimana, humanoids with the heads of dogs, highly developed Indians flying to other planets - this is bullshit!
how many fears were promised to us on December 21, 2012 - and nothing, the end of the world did not come. Tie up with such ravings!

[DimYang]

Well, you didn’t understand me. I didn’t tell you about highly developed Indians, nor about Anunaki, nor about humanoids, but only about Wimans (those descriptions that are in the Indian Vedas) A worthy written source about antiquity. I didn’t even think about predictions. This is not interesting to me. Wrote only about the facts. There are very ambiguous photos on the network that do not raise doubts about the authenticity of certain devices. (People with cameras got divorced right now, not hiding). The Germans, by the way, did not start their rocket science from scratch either. P and P, these two families did not just agree on a merger, but they transferred most of their assets to China. Here I am talking about. Well, you won’t deny that it’s impossible to find out from the media for everyone. I’m talking about simply comparing the facts. Such mental gestures suggest interesting thoughts. Do you know how much titanium is produced in the world, and how much is consumed? Take an interest. the conclusions will surprise you a little. So any source of information is valuable. You just need to be able to use it. I don’t remember, but some kind of intelligence, maybe even ours, constantly read all kinds of local newspapers and fished out a huge amount of important information. Here it is. And you are the yellow press, the yellow media ...

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Quote: dimyan

I haven’t told you either about highly developed Indians, or about Anunaki, or about humanoids, but only about Wyman (those descriptions that are in the Indian Vedas) A worthy written source about antiquity.

For me, all this is the same nonsense. The Indian Vedas are now being used by sects for their dirty purposes! Are you not a sectarian for an hour? Sects are dangerous for the brain, I know this from personal experience.
There are supporters of such a theory that the ancient Greek gods Zeus, Poseidon, etc. used to live on earth, and then dumped for unknown reasons - do you believe that?

Quote: dimyan

There are very ambiguous photos on the network that do not raise doubts about the authenticity of certain devices. (People with cameras got divorced right now, not hiding).

so drop a link to them, or put them in the comments. They are not of such quality as these photo-toads?


Is this a photo of vimana?

if you consider these pictures to be genuine photographs, then tie them with the Vedas!

Quote: dimyan

P and P, these two families not only agreed to merge, but also transferred most of their assets to China. Here I am talking about. You won’t deny that it’s not possible to find out from the media for everyone.

since 2008, they promised that R and P will bring down the dollar and the world will abandon it. I read about them. But the fact that they fly on vimanas - I do not believe in it.

Do you know how much titanium is produced in the world, and how much is consumed?

and how many? I now have no time to look for it in Google and Yandex

[DimYang]

Here you are distorting everything. Anyone who wants to find useful for himself, he will find. And I have never been in sects. Vedas existed long before any sects there. And there are not many other sources. The same Bible (Old Testament) is the five-book Torah. They interest me only as sources of information, nothing more. My psyche is stable, it does not allow me to get hooked on to all sorts of idiots, degenerates and renegades. And again, I tell you about Thomas, you tell me about Yeryom. The assets are withdrawn and this fact for the thinking person says that the process of the slow extinction of the USA has begun, as they did so and broke it. And about the search for information in the form of photographs and other things, I don’t publish links, I don’t publish photos. I am not a teacher at school who needs to find one himself. I don’t have to prove and teach anything. It’s simple and clear to me that such things on the network can in no way be evidence, but as a basis for reflection and sending them in one direction or another they are very useful. Sometimes a lack of result is also a result.

[raf]

Quote: dimyan

Looks helped them a little someone, not the Jews with the Amers masses?

No, they were Martians!

[Platov]

Great news for Iranian and more.

[Monk]

A bill on the admission of foreign aircraft to the territory of the country has been submitted to the supreme parliament of the outskirts

In the course of these maydanutny fascists decided to sign a sentence.

[Belarus]

I would say that an American is trickier than a Jew and a Ukrainian put together. And therefore, Americans just do nothing, will not do and will not do anything worse for their country than they are.
Based on this, I assume that if they are already on the way, at least they already have something that can more than replace these missiles.
The Americans have such a fashion at first to show that they are all bad and a complete mess in one area or another, but in fact it turns out that the opposite is true.
So believe the Americans in word it does not respect yourself!

[On the bayonet]

This is rightly noticed! Americos is an insidious and vile enemy. I think our strategists and "those who are supposed to" understand all this as "clear stump", and maybe they already know all the details of their immediate plans. I would like to believe it) And our business is small - not to stoop and be vigilant in your sector! Divorced shit-liberals (

[mig31]

These missiles, to date, have been and are chickens for laughs ...., for banana republics. For Russia, the gut is thin. For missiles, Americans do not see the championship ....., yes they have not and never will .....

[Leshka]

I think or Barack works for us

[Airmax]

Tomahawks are a very good and flexible weapon that has more than proved its right to exist !!! But of course expensive.

[Hope]

This is not easy with zhzhzhzhzh ... (c) what did the sashniks conceive? how now to bring the light of democracy into the universe?

[Ruswolf]

Belarus
I would say that an American is trickier than a Jew and a Ukrainian put together. And therefore, Americans just do nothing, will not do and will not do anything worse for their country than they are.

Hello Vladimir
Agree with you!
Just officially abandon space programs and reduce weapons costs, given that this is all national security .... this requires very good reason. For example - lack of funds for some very global program.
Again, if you carefully read - it is said that they refused to buy .... Buy what was developed once, and not new developments.
Here Obama is right, why buy the old and not effective when you consider the latest developments in Russia. It is better to spend these funds on the development of weapons of a new generation. Which they probably do. Especially whom they are afraid of. No one will attack them.

[IGS]

You can shout "Hurray" as much as you want, but, personally, it worries me. The release of ammunition for most of the existing ones, incl. new ship systems ... the supply there is not large for so many ships. Either there is already something new, or resources are invested in the forced receipt of this new. And this is meant for Russia.

[stupid stupid straight]

Barack Obama still works for us, and by the way there are real photos of how he will walk around Moscow before the election

[chastener]

Has the money really run out?

[upasika1918]

That's how they love him in America. To brighten it up a little - he looks like D. Medvedev.

[On the bayonet]

ABOUT! I received a sergeant today))) I’m giving in! We meet at a nearby bar) EVERYONE is invited. Just kidding, but I really have something to be happy about on a personal level, I “caught up” with my military rank as a military officer). I'm waiting at the bar!

[kelevra]

It began to dawn that there were simply no opponents! More precisely, they are very far away, and Russia doesn’t need them for nothing, these Americans. Plus, they realized that this pleasure is not cheap.

[sv68]

Obama didn’t understand anything from the old Indian’s stories about how his tribe buried the tag of war and decided to do it his own way

[Woolfy]

Quote: Letun

Quote: Strezhevchanin
and they’ll play these toys in Poland

Hello fellow countryman. Poland is unlikely to pay dearly

[shinobi]

Axes were considered obsolete already at the end of the 20th century. The Yankees now have plenty of them. But!!! Oh, this is a powerful but! Tomahawks have one powerful drawback: after launch they cannot be retargeted. And before launch they must arrive in a strictly specified area like this like a flight program is created in advance for a specific target and launch location. Unlike our systems with inertial-astronomical positioning and a bunch of options for approaching the target. In short, an ax is an ax and is useless against our systems like “Tunguska” and so on. Here’s the trick in another. According to one of their defense industry companies, they are now not able to create anything new or breakthrough. The scientific potential has been lost, all their new developers are a legacy left over from the Cold War. And new approaches are required

[krot]

Either way they're messing something up...

[voliador]

And in general, let them abandon the Pentagon and the CIA.

[misham1978]

They figured that they weren’t going to fight this year, and the reserves were enough for one or two wars. But they will have to stamp them (just like they print money). It's always like this with them. The budget is not rubber. Today the money was taken from the Air Force and transferred to the Marines, tomorrow they will refuse the new cruiser, but will invest money in a new base in ..... loop, or modernize the Abrams. Everything is in circles

[bubble82009]

Don't laugh guys and don't be happy. stopped purchasing cruise missiles for two reasons. 1. the reason is that there are no targets at which the Kyrgyz Republic can strike. Syria and Venezuela are not those states. 2. The reason is that there is a more effective type of weapon, this is internal opposition to the authorities. The Maidan in Kyiv showed this. Well, if anything happens, PMCs will show themselves.

[Sergei75]

I agree with previous speakers, they turned to buy because:
- outdated and does not meet the requirements of countermeasures, let's say c300 - junk, suitable for police operations in third world countries;
- something new, secret has appeared that can overcome Russian air defense.
How do you like this formulation of the question?
You should always assume the worst case scenario, because it will happen!
And stop making fun of the enemy, teasing only leads to complacency, the states are a serious adversary and so far, in the Cold War, the score is in their favor.