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On Tuesday, Director-General of the State Hermitage Museum Mikhail Piotrovsky expressed concern about the fate of the collection of Scythian gold from Kerch museums, which is on display in Europe. He recalled that the collection was taken out of Kerch before the reunification of Crimea with Russia, and now the question arises, "where will this collection return after the end of the exhibition: to the Crimea, to Ukraine or remain in Europe."


The Amsterdam Museum is currently hosting the exhibition Crimea: Gold and the Secrets of the Black Sea. Among the exhibits there is also a collection of the Scythian Gold Central Museum of Tavrida. At the same time, sources in the Ministry of Culture of Ukraine, citing the leadership of the Amsterdam Museum, reported that the collection would be returned to Ukraine, and not to the Crimea.

"Will settle in private collections"


“The Crimean museums brought to Amsterdam their best masterpieces of the Scythian period, a lot of Crimean rarities and artifacts, including a lot of gold jewelry. In May, the exhibition should be already finished, and the exhibits returned to the museums. However, the leadership of the Amsterdam Museum has already loudly stated that since the Netherlands did not recognize the independent, or especially the Russian Crimea, all the exhibits will be transferred to the Ministry of Culture in Kiev, ”writes“ Press of Ukraine ”.

The Hermitage did not participate in the organization of this exhibition, but it attaches great importance to the archaeological heritage of Crimea. Its specialists are constantly participating in scientific expeditions on the peninsula, working on excavations. The Hermitage also has its own unique collection of Scythian gold.

At the same time, Piotrovsky claims that the exhibition of Scythian gold, which was transported from Europe to the Kerch Museum in the Crimea, disappeared without a trace. “The most recent problem related to the Crimea is the exhibition of Scythian gold from Kerch. She left Europe back to Ukraine, but we still do not know where she is, ”the museum director said, stating that the Hermitage maintains close relations with Kerch museums.

According to unconfirmed information, the Ukrainian authorities could take Scythian gold to the West as collateral for loans. Piotrovsky also noted that the Hermitage has no information on where these exhibits will be stored in Ukraine or in the Crimea.

That the Ukrainian ministry is ready to accept the collections of the Crimean museums, the head of department Yevgeny Nishchuk made it clear. In particular, exhibits from the Crimean reserve "Chersonese of Tauride" after the exhibition in Amsterdam were in Kiev. “Those museum exhibits that were taken to exhibitions in other countries, as a rule, should be returned to the site by law. But we have signals, because of which we made a resolution from the ministry of culture to changes to the museum funds of cultural heritage in connection with these events, as an exception, so that the decision where these museum exhibits should be returned remains the right of the ministry of culture ”, Netbook

He clarified that "we are talking about museum exhibits from the reserve" Chersonese of Tauride, "which are now in Amsterdam." “There are signals that the Hermitage is requesting that they return there. Accordingly, we must check this, and this resolution will allow us to make a decision as a moment of shutdown, so that after the exhibition ends, if the situation is not changed, we decide where they will return, ”the official said.

Doctor of Arts, Deputy Director of the Institute of Cultural and Natural Heritage Oleksiy Lebedev notes that the exhibition "Crimea: Gold and Secrets of the Black Sea" was formed from the collections of six museums: the National Historical Museum of Ukraine, the Museum historical treasures (Kiev), Bakhchisarai and Kerch museum-reserves, national reserve "Chersonese Tauric", as well as the Central Museum of Taurida (Simferopol). Four of them are Crimean museums. “According to the plan, this exhibition should work in Holland until September this year. So far nothing extraordinary has happened, ”Lebedev told the VZGLYAD newspaper.

However, he noted that earlier in the blogosphere there was information that the director of the Amsterdam Museum intends to transfer all the items from the exhibition to the Ministry of Culture of Ukraine, and not to specific museums. “The Internet community automatically had the idea that the Ministry of Culture of Ukraine will not return the exhibits to the museums of Crimea. But I have not heard of such statements. Secondly, the question arises, and to whom should the Dutch in general return the exhibits? It depends on who the contract was signed with. There are situations when contracts are signed by museums, and sometimes by the ministry of culture. If the contract was signed with the ministry, then the Dutch are obliged to return everything to him. And there is nothing unexpected in this, ”the expert explained.

As for precedents, Lebedev recalled the unwritten international rule, which consists in the fact that works of art, historical and cultural monuments should not become victims of war and political conflicts. In 1945, he recalled, Soviet troops exported the values ​​of the Dresden Gallery to the USSR. The collection was later returned to the same museum.

“The collection was taken from united Germany, and returned to the GDR, to another country! That is the main principle - the exhibits should be returned to the collection, its integrity can not be destroyed. This is due to the concern of M. B. Piotrovsky. Because the collection itself is a monument of history and culture. The principle is this: out of six museums they took it at six and should return, ”explained Lebedev.

In turn, the first deputy chairman of the Duma Foreign Affairs Committee, Leonid Kalashnikov (KPRF), considers the threat that unique collections will not return to the Crimea real. “Surely the agreement was concluded not by the Ministry of Culture of Crimea, but by the Ministry of Culture of Ukraine. In this case, there will be very serious problems. If the contracts were concluded by the regional ministry’s office in Crimea, then the situation is different, ”Kalashnikov told the VIEW newspaper.

At the same time, he says that from a political point of view, the collection should return to the Crimea. “Russia has recently returned to the Austrians exhibits from the collection of the princes Esterhazy, taken out during repatriation. And then there was the Austro-Hungarian Republic. If you dig into this conflict, it will be very difficult to solve. Most likely, common sense will prevail here, ”hopes Kalashnikov.

However, a member of the Duma Committee on Culture, Alexander Balberov (LDPR), adheres to the version that the Ukrainian authorities brought gold Scythians to the West as collateral for loans, so the collections will not return to Russia anymore. “Yatsenyuk (Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk) exported these items on account of the fact that the country will receive any tranches that Europe and America promise to Ukraine. Exhibits will not return neither to Ukraine, nor to Russia. They will either settle in private collections, or they will be some kind of pledge for the future, ”Balberov told the LOOK to the newspaper.

He also added that there is no exact information about where Scythian gold can be. “I have data that it is in the United States, because these values ​​were exported just at that time period when Yatsenyuk flew to Obama. Therefore, it is necessary to understand, in whose hands is this gold. After that, you need an understanding of why this export was made. Obviously not in order to preserve these values ​​as national wealth. Based on the facts that will become known, it will be necessary to take action, because such objects and values ​​do not belong to someone alone. This is a world heritage, ”said the deputy.

As for the version concerning the export of Scythian gold by Yatseniuk, then, as the Ukrainian press wrote, citing sources in the power structures of Ukraine, it was 7 March. Then at two in the morning an unregistered transport plane flew from Boryspil airport to the USA. Before that, four collector cars and two Volkswagen cargo minibuses arrived at the airport. All cars were without license plates.

More than 10 people in black uniforms, masks and body armor came out of the cars. Some of them were armed with machine guns. They quickly loaded into the plane more than 40 boxes, after which the cars left the runway, and the plane took off on an emergency basis.
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  1. mamont5
    mamont5 26 March 2014 13: 22
    +9
    In short, that Europe, that the USA-drag, that lies badly. Thieves are still those.
    1. andrewvlg
      andrewvlg 26 March 2014 13: 34
      +12
      Quote: mamont5
      In short, that Europe, that the USA-drag, that lies badly. Thieves are still those.

      If the collections remain in Amsterdam, they will most likely be preserved for posterity (it may even be possible to return them to Crimea when the situation stabilizes). But if they are taken to Kiev ... Then the "warriors of Narnia" in Scythian gold will have to be caught all over the world.
    2. svetlomor
      svetlomor 26 March 2014 13: 36
      +2
      In an extreme case, they will return Ukraine, and it owes so much to Russia that it is possible to buy Kiev and its environs.
      1. predator.3
        predator.3 26 March 2014 14: 08
        +4
        He recalled that the collection was exported from Kerch before the reunification of Crimea with Russia took place, and now the question arises, “where will this collection return after the exhibition: to Crimea, to Ukraine or to remain in Europe”.

        But where will they go, soon all of Ukraine will return!
        I am interested in the scientific question: Where did the Scythians get so much gold, where did they get it? And from the skill of Scythian jewelers you can just get fucked up!
        1. Cherdak
          Cherdak 26 March 2014 14: 58
          +2
          Quote: predator.3
          Where did the Scythians get so much gold, where did they get it?

          The teacher tells:
          - In the city of the Tiber, fishermen caught a fish, left it on the shore, come in the morning, and stole it. From here came the word STYBRIT.
          Little Johnny: - A similar incident occurred in the city of Pisa!
      2. chunga-changa
        chunga-changa 26 March 2014 14: 25
        +1
        Quote: svetlomor
        what can you buy Kiev and surroundings

        Kiev and the surroundings at one time was already bought by Peter the Great from Poland, incl. let them sell something else, for example, nuclear power plants.
    3. Uncle
      Uncle 26 March 2014 13: 47
      +4
      Quote: mamont5
      In short, that Europe, that the USA-drag, that lies badly. Thieves are still those.

      That which was stolen by the Nazis was also shared, and the Amber Room was never found.
      1. Cherdak
        Cherdak 26 March 2014 14: 59
        +2
        Quote: Uncle
        After all, they did not find the Amber Room.

        And I like the remake much more
  2. Egoza
    Egoza 26 March 2014 13: 23
    +11
    Now at a meeting of the Verkhovna Rada, one deputy squealed that, according to his data, Russia (!!!) robbing museums of the Crimea (!!!) - taking out Aivazovsky's paintings and valuables from museums for their "hermitages" belay
    Well, they measure everything by themselves !!! am
    1. Oleg Sobol
      Oleg Sobol 26 March 2014 13: 30
      +3
      What to take from patients, okromya analyzes ....
      Yes, and they are no good ... negative
    2. Uncle
      Uncle 26 March 2014 13: 49
      +3
      Well, by the way, Piotrovsky also has a stigma in the fluff, and the Hermitage and the Tretyakov Gallery lack a lot of exhibits.
    3. Colorman
      Colorman 26 March 2014 14: 30
      +1
      How these dogs got out of BP, they constantly scream ...
  3. W1950
    W1950 26 March 2014 13: 25
    +4
    Let the West suck off after that. Horseradish is more for them, and not exhibitions. And Amsterdam can be immediately transferred to the Scythians to Amers. The whole Rabbit will sell.
  4. Chifka
    Chifka 26 March 2014 13: 27
    +3
    The only thing that Ukraine will never give up to Europe and the states is the main historical and cultural value, so to speak, the origins of the holiness and inviolability of the state, and at the same time the country's national currency is fat! An encroached politician trying to take him over the hill as a security for foreign loans will immediately become a political, if not real corpse.
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 26 March 2014 13: 58
      +3
      Quote: Chifka
      the main historical and cultural value, so to speak, the origins of the holiness and inviolability of the state, and along with the national currency of the country is fat!

      They have been buying only this "currency" for a long time in Poland, where they have the FRS (Federal Reserve of Salo).
  5. Gloria45
    Gloria45 26 March 2014 13: 30
    +4
    Miracles and more! U r about d! am
    Well, it’s probably Obama, and he threw gold eyes at it.
    Here recently Germany wanted to return its reserve
    gold from US banks, so they can’t find it
  6. Gagarin
    Gagarin 26 March 2014 13: 31
    +3
    Senya Yatsenyuk simply set aside for a rainy day.
    One can always say to the extremes that Putin’s special services were stolen.
  7. rasputin17
    rasputin17 26 March 2014 13: 33
    +1
    The treasury is empty so now the museums and storerooms are in use !! Now all the values ​​will delight private collectors in Europe and America! In the near future it is worth watching auctions and you can see there all exported values, including those that are under the protection of UNESCO!
  8. Lissyara
    Lissyara 26 March 2014 13: 33
    +3
    “Where will this collection return after the end of the exhibition: to the Crimea, to Ukraine or will remain in Europe”
    Europe is likely to give away the exhibits (so as not to "lower" itself below the plinth). The question is to whom? I won't be surprised if they soon settle in the houses and on the pitchforks of all kinds of Yatsyuk-Potsyukov, Timoshenok and other trash.
  9. major071
    major071 26 March 2014 13: 36
    +8
    The rabbit has already handed over the gold of the Scythians to the Americans for the promised loans from the IMF, and no matter how we would like it, but in the near future (while the junta is in power) it will not be returned. I would not be surprised if exhibits from Kiev museums soon also surface in private collections somewhere in the west. Not only private property is being plundered, but also cultural values. Under the "noise", justifying the revolution, with the motto "rob the loot!" IMHO
  10. erased
    erased 26 March 2014 13: 36
    +2
    The question is not where it will settle down, but whether they will be able to return to the base. Well then, how intelligence will try.
  11. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 26 March 2014 13: 38
    +3
    One cannot count on the honesty of foreign "partners". Something I didn’t hear that museum treasures, "seized" by the "liberators", returned to Iraq. request
  12. Papabear
    Papabear 26 March 2014 13: 41
    +3
    Quote: major071
    Rabbit has already handed over Scythian gold to Americans for promised IMF loans

    Rather, for the money already received for the revolution
  13. parus2nik
    parus2nik 26 March 2014 13: 42
    +4
    The gold of the Scythians will disappear ... the bourgeoisie will not give it ... Museum special forces should be sent to return the values ​​..
  14. bubalik
    bubalik 26 March 2014 13: 48
    +2
    Looting museums in the process of "revolutions" is a normal American practice. So it was in Iraq, it was so in Egypt, Libya, this is what happens in Syria. We must return the money spent on the revolution.
  15. Baton
    Baton 26 March 2014 13: 50
    +2
    Next in line to join Russia is the Ministry of Culture of Ukraine lol
  16. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 26 March 2014 13: 51
    +2
    What is Scythian gold? All forget, unless Russia redeems. The West has never just given money, it does not and will not give ...
    So, the story with the 35 billion carrots from the IMF got a spicy continuation. Aunt Lagarde wildly apologized and called for Ukraine to abstain at the current stage from public demands for multibillion foreign financial assistance.
    "We do not see (in Ukraine) anything critical that can serve as an excuse for panic at the moment. I think it is extremely premature to assess Ukraine's financial needs." It turns out that Sena was shown not even a carrot, but an orange dildo ...


  17. pensioner
    pensioner 26 March 2014 13: 52
    +3
    If this is true about Scythian gold, then .... This is a crime without statute of limitations. Cultural heritage is an exhaustible resource !!! I have no words...
    1. Cherdak
      Cherdak 26 March 2014 15: 02
      +1
      Quote: retired
      Cultural heritage is an exhaustible resource !!!

      And here you are in vain ... golden hands have not yet been transferred

      How Shepsel Gokhman from Odessa fooled the Louvre by forging the "crown of the Scythian king Saitafarn"

      http://www.centrasia.ru/newsA.php?st=1110207240
      http://www.istorya.ru/book/kb/17.php
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 26 March 2014 17: 51
        0
        Yes strong. Thank! hi I read this story somewhere at the dawn of perestroika ... It is possible that in Ogonyok ... And I completely forgot !! Thanks again!
  18. Luzhichanin
    Luzhichanin 26 March 2014 13: 54
    +3
    Scythian gold - these are artifacts that indicate a unified history of our ancestors.
    Those who are rewriting history more than once in Ukraine, these artifacts are like a bone in their throats. For they only by their existence destroy their entire false historical construction.
    Having eliminated the artifacts, nothing will prevent the rewriting of the story, especially since the elimination can also cut the dough ...
  19. sinukvl
    sinukvl 26 March 2014 13: 55
    +4
    May this gold not be returned to Ukraine. Yaytsenyuk had already built it in the States, and as a guarantee for a loan and for his beloved if they suddenly give a kick in the ass. Remember Trotsky in the same way at 17 and 18 he rushed gold and pebbles from Gokhran and transported it to America and Europe, and then lived at the expense of it, until Stalin stroked his ice ax on the head.
    1. Stinger
      Stinger 26 March 2014 14: 18
      +1
      A group of people whose face is not disfigured by intelligence!
  20. AleksPol
    AleksPol 26 March 2014 14: 05
    +2
    Hitler also stole values, And how did he end?
  21. nikcris
    nikcris 26 March 2014 14: 13
    +1
    When exhibits leave the museum and go to the exhibition to other museums or the OT, they are surely insured.
  22. Vtel
    Vtel 26 March 2014 14: 19
    +1
    F + D = F and D I do not want to add more. These people, without conscience and without homeland, are ready to sell everything, and the soul seems to be already too.
  23. kelevra
    kelevra 26 March 2014 14: 26
    +1
    We have developed and established mechanisms for returning our values ​​from all over the world back to Russia. So it seems to me that nothing will settle down either in Europe or in America.
  24. MAFIA
    MAFIA 26 March 2014 14: 39
    +1
    Quote: nikcris
    When exhibits leave the museum and go to the exhibition to other museums or the OT, they are surely insured.

    Anyway, Ukraine will get insurance, there’s no chance to return it now, but after a while, when everything calms down, it will be possible for the Russian Federation to begin the procedure of extradition of the collection, but only on condition that the collection by that time is not moved to Ukraine and accordingly it is not stolen.
  25. Zomanus
    Zomanus 26 March 2014 15: 03
    +1
    And it is not clear at whose expense loans and other cookies will be issued. So just forget it. Gold is likely to go straight to America from Europe.
  26. shelva
    shelva 26 March 2014 15: 07
    +1
    The collection was not provided, but it was also pleased to return it to the conscience of all international organizations, whose conscience has little hope.
  27. Bober
    Bober 26 March 2014 16: 34
    0
    “There are signals that the Hermitage is requesting that they return there. Accordingly, we must control this, and this decision will allow us to make a decision as the moment of shutdown, so that after the exhibition ends, if the situation does not change, so that we decide where they will return, ”the official emphasized.

    This was said by the Minister of Culture. I do not understand half of this rubbish. To him there by chance, isn't Klitschko himself writing speeches?
  28. sv68
    sv68 26 March 2014 16: 48
    0
    what difference does crime or kiev get a collection tongue by September, all these territories will be part of the great RUSSIA
  29. Ross
    Ross 26 March 2014 17: 01
    0
    Quote: mamont5
    In short, that Europe, that the USA-drag, that lies badly. Thieves are still those.

    It seems that after the junta there will be a desert ....