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Troops, as usual, lacked

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15 years ago, in 1999, federal troops took Grozny a second time. Unlike the bloody New Year's assault on 1994, this event did not find a detailed description in the media. On the preparation of the assault, its progress and the problems encountered by the troops, the newspaper “Military-Industrial Courier” was told by the then Hero of Russia, Colonel-General Vladimir Vasilyevich Bulgakov, who was in charge of the fighting.


- Why did the storming of the Terrible again come on the New Year? In many mass media there is a version that the leadership of the joint grouping of troops (forces) and the Ministry of Defense sought to please the Kremlin.

“It’s just a coincidence, nobody has driven us.” Troops reached Grozny at the end of October. It took us time to clarify the situation, make a decision, regroup and train the troops to perform combat missions, so as not to repeat the mistakes of 1994 of the year.

Troops, as usual, lacked

Photo: Vladimir Velengurin ("Komsomolskaya Pravda")

Preparing seriously. First, the battle in the city has its own characteristics, especially since we knew that the militants were relying on the retention of the city. Terrible for them was the main stronghold of organized resistance. They prepared for the defense of the city in advance, thoroughly, and hoped that the federal troops would suffer great losses. That is why at the approaches to the city and in the city itself everything was full of posters “Welcome to hell. Part II. Taking the city had a great moral and political, one might even say, of strategic importance. This was supposed to be a turning point in the CTO. Everyone understood this. On the other hand, to crawl through is to incur heavy losses, to repeat the mistakes of the previous assault. Therefore, all preparatory activities took time and were completed by the end of December. Secondly, these activities were carried out in the course of hostilities to destroy gangs in the lowland, foothill areas and the acquisition of tactically important points on the outskirts of the city.

Thirdly, it was very important to free the city before the beginning of February, since the EU summit was supposed to be held in February, where they would certainly touch on the events in Chechnya. Therefore, it was necessary before the start of the summit to end active operations and go to operations to stabilize the situation. All this taken together determined the start date of the operation. Therefore, all versions of servility are conjectures. The time of the start of the operation was determined by the situation.

- Did the leadership of the Ministry of Defense hurry?

- Defense Minister Marshal Sergeyev owned the situation and understood the situation perfectly. One day, during a regular visit to my KP, he asked Army General Kazantsev and me: “Do we have time?”. I replied: "We can make it in time, but in that case we can put a lot of people in." The commander of the Army Group (s) supported me. Sergeev thought and said: “No need for victims. Act as appropriate. The task must be completed with minimal losses. ” Thus, he gave the right to independent action. Of course, the political situation hung over us. We must pay tribute to the commander of the UGV (s) Kazantsev. He protected me from external influence during the operation. Therefore, the actions of the troops were in fact, that is, in the prevailing situation, without any race.

- What was your intention as the commander of the assault?

- The plan of the operation envisaged a simultaneous strike from four sides in the direction of the Old Crafts - the Plant. Lenin, the Dynamo stadium - the station, Staraya Sunzha - the station, the district hospital - the station to split the grouping of gangsters into isolated groups with their subsequent destruction. On the basis of the intention he built and the order of battle, taking into account the specifics of the purpose of the forces and means that make up the group.

- And how much was the situation explored, were the defense units, supply routes of the militants revealed?

- Intelligence compared to the previous operation worked well. All types of intelligence worked before and during the operation. Many objects were opened - especially bases, control points, places for laying mines, including chemical ones, this allowed them to be neutralized during the battles. And the whole city was prepared for the defense, all the buildings, not to mention the dominant ones. I will not reveal all the specifics of the work of intelligence officers. True, reconnaissance units of military intelligence must not be trained as regular infantry. When preparing intelligence units, the emphasis should be placed on tactical, special, psychological training. Scouts must be taught to act in the enemy's rear, apart from the main forces, independently. Yes, and the selection of personnel must be special. Success depends on the actions of the scouts. Alas, unfortunately, given these shortcomings, we did not dare to let the reconnaissance groups into the city for fear of losing them. Therefore, many tasks were assigned to other types of intelligence.

- How were EW funds used?

- This question has been worked out. Specialists of EW services conducted reconnaissance, interception, which made it possible to open many of the militants' facilities. Successfully went disruption management by suppressing communication channels. And speaking of intelligence in general, EW, it must be said that the commander will be provided with accurate intelligence, if there is a good analytical team, staffed by highly trained specialists.

- How dense was the environment of Grozny? It is often said that militants were free to enter and exit.

- You will not put a soldier on every meter. Knowing the terrain, you can always find a gap. Recall the stories of the scouts, as they penetrated into the rear of the enemy through its leading edge. The task of the ring around the city was not to allow the militants to go to the mountains and prevent the reserves from entering the city, delivering ammunition, food, etc.

True, at first we could not understand how the evacuation of the wounded and the replenishment of personnel and material and technical means go. Judging by the radio interception, all applications blocked blocked. Sealed the ring, took on the strict control of the organization of service in the fog, at night. The result is not in our favor. And the casket opened simply. It turned out that the militants use sewers. Scouts discovered this. Urgently began to collect material on the underground communications of the city. It was possible to draw up a diagram of these communications, especially their outskirts of the city, which were carefully camouflaged and guarded by militant groups. After their blocking, the resistance began to weaken, because the feeding groups in the city stopped. From radio interceptions, it became clear that the militants had problems with ammunition, food, medicines, etc.

- Why did you decide at the first stage to storm the city with the forces of operational brigades of internal troops? Were they ready to perform such a task? How well were the officers prepared, because many of them served as commanders of convoy units and subunits, and this is their specificity?

- First, during this period, parts of the East and West groups carried out combat missions to destroy gangs in the foothill and mountainous areas, to block the city. Part of the troops provided the construction of a road along the border with Georgia from Ingushetia to Dagestan. The Zapad group was preparing the landing of theaters in the Itum-Kale area with the task of cutting the road and trails leading to Georgia.

Secondly, for execution of tasks in the city, the command of the OGV (s) chose those units that successfully acted in previous battles, that is, were the most prepared, and their commanders could make competent, reasonable decisions in difficult situations. I emphasize in a difficult situation. Fighting in the city is the most complex variety. Grozny is a large settlement, carefully and competently prepared for defense, with surprises and traps. This is a “tough nut” that should have been taken with minimal losses.

By their capabilities, operational teams are able to perform the tasks of urban combat, which they proved.

By training officers can say the following. Some of the officers studied at the time in the general army of the Frunze Academy, some of the officers came from parts of the Ministry of Defense, most of the officers of brigades and battalions had combat experience after passing hot spots in the Caucasus.

The first stage of the fighting showed that it was necessary to have more powerful assault detachments with independent actions.

Before embarking on the main phase of the assault on the city, with all the detachments, they conducted training sessions, taking into account the experience of the actions of the 62 Army’s assault groups in Stalingrad. Yes, they brought from the archives the leaflets published in 62 A, and studied them. Based on the experience of previous battles made adjustments on the composition and objectives. Officers and organizations of battlefield studied, management of subordinates and attached forces and means, special attention was paid to the organization of interaction not only within groups and detachments, but also with neighbors. Refined control system vertically.

Having ascertained that all personnel know specifically their functional duties and the order of the task, they proceeded to the assault.

The officers wanted and sought to complete the task, and we always helped them, prompted and taught, if necessary. To the extent that they asked: "How do you understand the task and how will you carry it out?" They sought to make the commander clear in his head. Such training was carried out with units of the Ministry of Defense and BB. The first and subsequent battles showed that the preparation of assault detachments was not a waste of time, and it contributed to the successful accomplishment of the task, and most importantly - saved many lives of our officers and soldiers.

- In the New Year's assault on 1994, our troops used artillery in a very limited way. And how during the second assault?

- Artillery was used as necessary to solve the following tasks: suppressing fire weapons and identified militant groups, destroying the enemy in the nodes of resistance, firing the assault detachments, prohibiting movement and maneuvering reserves. Proceeding from the tasks, the artillery made fire raids or fired direct fire.

Applied to the WTO type "Daredevil" and "Tochka-U". At the expense of mobile direction finders and artillery, they created a reconnaissance-fire complex, which allowed real-time destruction of militant command and control points. It got to the point that they were shouting on the air to each other: “Don't talk for a long time, the Americans are dropping the coordinates to the Russians!” Radio fear has appeared, and the effectiveness of defeating command and control centers has increased.

- And what about enemy snipers?

- It was our disaster. In the city of a sniper is very difficult to detect. Many positions were prepared in advance and very inventive. Compared to 1994 – 1995 over the years, it can be said that the level of training of snipers and their number among militants have become much higher. They were created mobile groups that threw snipers to areas where there was a threat of a breakthrough. They saved the smoke, which they initially neglected, but then they realized that smoke still saves snipers from accurate fire. But it was a passive struggle, active to organize more difficult. Our army snipers were very poorly trained. Only after the opening of the courses did more or less normal snipers appear in the troops. But that later, and at that time we could not organize the anti-sniper struggle, suffered losses. After the report of the current situation, the chief of the General Staff received practical assistance. Professionals arrived extra-class snipers from other departments. With their competent and productive actions, they nullified the problem and cleared the way for motorized riflemen.

- Where did you decide to focus on the first stage?

- According to the plan of the operation, the main attack was delivered from the side of Khankala towards the station. In this case, all bridges and maneuvering routes located in the Minutka Square and the city center were taken under control. A regiment of Colonel Gusev and a group of Colonel Kukarin acted in this direction. A group of Colonel Grudnov acted through the cannery. The remaining units delivered auxiliary strikes, tying the militants into battle.

Khankala was taken during the night battle, but it was not possible to break into the private sector. If earlier the militants did not conduct combat operations in the private sector, now they have understood the advantage of dense buildings, the presence of dense gardens and a maze of narrow streets. All this, plus the presence of trenches and communications between the houses made it difficult for the troops. The militants put up stubborn resistance in other directions. The tasks were partially completed. The greatest success was achieved by the group of Colonel Grudnov and the units operating in the Old Fields. Therefore, the first stage was reconnaissance in force. It was decided to consolidate on the achieved lines and clarify the plan of the operation.

- What changes have you made to the plans?

- Changes, or rather, the clarification of the decision took place during all the hostilities, depending on the prevailing situation, that is, as we said, in fact. Changed the direction of strikes, carried out maneuver parts, strengthened the direction where success was planned, strikes were made simultaneously from all sides or spread over time, forcing the militants to move reserves from one direction to another.

And we kept the maneuvering routes under fire control. We must pay tribute to the precise and competent actions of the artillerymen who were controlled, I believe, the most prepared and experienced in the Armed Forces, General Bokovikov. The fact that the attackers suffered minimal losses was the merit of the artillerymen and himself.

But back to your question. The fighting revealed nodal strong points, without the destruction of which the tasks would not be completed. This is a district hospital, the 15 military camp, a cannery, a group of buildings in the area of ​​the Dynamo stadium. Based on this, the tasks were clarified to the parts and regrouped.

The group of Colonel Fomenko remained the same task - to seize the buildings in the stadium and continue to advance in the direction of the station. The gain was given tank company, which with its direct fire was supposed to destroy the firing points of the militants.

The group operating in the Old Fields was strengthened by the motorized rifle battalion of the 205-I MSSR. General leadership in this area was assigned to Lieutenant Colonel Stogov. The main task of this group was to secure the left flank of the Fomenko group and the right flank of the units operating in the cannery, forcing the militants and stripping the Old Crafts.

In the interval between the groups of Lieutenant Colonel Stogov and Colonel Grudnov, a part of Colonel Sidorov was introduced. The task is in cooperation with the group of Colonel Grudnov to seize the cannery and neighborhood near the plant, seize the bridge and continue to advance in the direction of the presidential palace and station.

Colonel Kukarin's group shifted to Khankala in the strip of Colonel Gusev's regiment. A regiment of Colonel Yudin was also introduced into this lane. The task is to destroy the militants in the private sector, moving in the direction of Minute, to promote the regiment of Gusev in the capture of the 15-th military town. Gusev's regiment took the district hospital with its main forces, and part of the forces, in cooperation with Yudin, captured the 15 military town.

The battle formations included strong assault detachments, reconnaissance and destruction of land mines, especially chemical, as well as reconnaissance and blocking sewers and other wells associated with underground utilities.

All this work has brought positive results.

- How was the second stage of the assault?

- Changing the direction of strikes and the different times of their direction, the constant fire impact, anti-sniper struggle complicated the actions of the defenders. They rushed about, not knowing what to do. We were moving from turn to turn, fixed and, having specified the tasks, developed success. Our will was imposed on the enemy. He was not ready for this, although he snapped desperately, it was felt that the matter was heading towards a denouement.

Assault troops proved to be a powerful tool for independent combat. Their commanders had the reserves and fire means for solving any problems that suddenly arose. In each detachment, next to the commander, there was an aeronautical engineer and an artillery spotter, which made it possible at the right moment to connect the means of the senior commander.

Considering that the militants' favorite method of action was penetration, going out to the flanks and rear of the attackers, and delivering surprise attacks, we conducted assault detachments in firing artillery edging. For militants, this was a surprise.

Another surprise was that a small number of armored vehicles for direct fire, which was heavily guarded by infantry from all sides, took part in street battles.

They thought that we would use all the equipment and would burn it with impunity on the streets of the city. Did not work out.

And after taking the nodal support points, the defense of the militants collapsed as an organized resistance. Focal fighting has already begun. Victory was our common. And the army team, and veveshniki made their contribution. The experience of hostilities has shown that such a complex task as the assault of a city can be carried out by united groups with the proper organization of the operation. Commanders in their areas acted competently, led the troops confidently. Each of them performed the tasks. I would be wrong if I did not say that victory can be achieved with little blood and great losses. Therefore, its price depends on the training of those who directly solve problems on the battlefield, on the training of a soldier.

- And how did the militants break through from Grozny?

“Through the minefields to which they were taken out after conducting a special operation.” They suffered heavy losses, and the remnants that leaped were finished off by the troops of the "West" group.
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  1. ilya_82
    ilya_82 29 March 2014 08: 49
    +7
    Bravo!!! Suvorov School !!! Competent actions !!!
    1. studentmati
      studentmati 29 March 2014 21: 05
      +3
      Quote: ilya_82
      Bravo!!! Suvorov School !!! Competent actions !!!


      A detailed, interesting and smart story! I like it!
  2. Mite27
    Mite27 29 March 2014 09: 16
    -25%
    And this one carries nonsense about minefields. Well, how can you secretly mine the field, and so that the militants would shoot directly at it.
    1. traper
      traper 29 March 2014 12: 30
      +5
      and they weren’t let out much more, I had to drape through minefields. although in fairness, it is worth noting that the spirits at that time were prepared to overcome the MVZ, even Jordanians came across with sabak sappers.
      1. Mite27
        Mite27 29 March 2014 14: 50
        -8
        And who didn’t let them out? In the second, everything was also sold, and information and weapons and ammunition.
    2. BARBED
      BARBED 29 March 2014 19: 59
      +7
      Mite 27! This is not nonsense .... It would be better to keep silent. That year, I came to the troops with accelerated flight of air. Was there. They were brought to minefields by our GRUSHNIK, the land rest in peace for him, a legitimate militant, he did his work ...
      Do not judge without knowing ......
      1. Mite27
        Mite27 29 March 2014 20: 51
        -7
        Hear the accelerated fly, where have you been there?
    3. BARBED
      BARBED 29 March 2014 19: 59
      0
      Mite 27! This is not nonsense .... It would be better to keep silent. That year, I came to the troops with accelerated flight of air. Was there. They were brought to minefields by our GRUSHNIK, the land rest in peace for him, a legitimate militant, he did his work ...
      Do not judge without knowing ......
    4. Mite27
      Mite27 29 March 2014 21: 11
      -13%
      yes, minus! What are the minefields of the attacking army? Have the Chechens climbed their mines?
      1. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 30 March 2014 03: 19
        +2
        If I don’t confuse this later and the media reported in programs about fights. The militants were left one way out of the ring and it was mined. They did not storm them locally to avoid losses. Somewhere like that.
        Who knows firsthand, can correct me.
        1. demon184
          demon184 31 March 2014 08: 09
          +1
          Yes, I also saw it, the remains showed militants blown up on the field, before leaving the collector.
    5. oldstaryi
      oldstaryi 30 March 2014 08: 59
      0
      An agent was sent to them, who promised to withdraw them for money. He brought, but to the minefield. There, Basai’s leg hurt. It's a pity not my head! In short, watch a movie on youtube ... bully
      1. Mite27
        Mite27 30 March 2014 11: 00
        -1
        I write as a participant in the storming of Grozny 2000, if you like the official version, then please, but this version is not related to reality.
        1. demon184
          demon184 31 March 2014 08: 10
          0
          And which side of the barricade were you on?
    6. 1398727
      1398727 30 March 2014 12: 42
      +1
      http://artofwar.ru/c/cehanowich_b_g/text_0090.shtml
      Everything is laid out here, as for those who are in an armored train.
      1. Mite27
        Mite27 30 March 2014 12: 49
        -1
        someone may be in an armored train, but obviously not me
    7. Alekseev
      Alekseev 30 March 2014 14: 46
      +1
      Quote: MITE27
      And this one carries nonsense about minefields.

      And this one does not want to know anything ... what, and even derogatoryly speaks of a really military commander. yes request
      About the breakthrough of the militants through the minefields (when Basayev's foot was torn off) is told more than to hell, whoever has ears, let him hear. The operation was successful, although not without drawbacks. Almost all "shaitans" could be put there.
      But it’s impossible to tell everything to the end about the "technology" of mining and holding this event even now.
      1. Mite27
        Mite27 30 March 2014 14: 55
        0
        Basayev’s leg was shattered by a machine gun in a battle in the central hospital building. There were many spirits killed. And there is now a memorial to these dead. And I'm not saying that I heard from anyone, but I saw it myself.
    8. demon184
      demon184 31 March 2014 08: 07
      0
      I even remember on TV the remains of militants on those same minefields.
  3. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 29 March 2014 09: 19
    +8
    This is not for you: -Hurray! And let's go to the "forehead" under the snipers and machine guns with grenade launchers as 94m.
    This: -We quietly, quietly go down the mountain ....
    It would always be so.
    Haste is needed when catching fleas and ....
  4. poccinin
    poccinin 29 March 2014 09: 21
    -3
    or maybe it was worth just to inflict air strike carpet bombing to start with napalms, then artillery and only then infantry. It was possible to bomb for 2-3 days. After all, we still have a "buratina" tornado.
    1. oldstaryi
      oldstaryi 30 March 2014 09: 01
      0
      And the civilian population, which the militants did not release? bully
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  6. pogis
    pogis 29 March 2014 09: 49
    +7
    Quote: MITE27
    And this one carries nonsense about minefields. Well, how can you secretly mine the field, and so that the militants would shoot directly at it.

    Remote mining? No, not heard!
    1. Mite27
      Mite27 29 March 2014 09: 59
      -5
      I’ll tell you for sure. that the spirits didn’t make any breakthroughs through minefields. These are all inventions of generals, they went anywhere at night.
      1. demon184
        demon184 31 March 2014 08: 12
        +1
        You went hiking with those spirits, didn’t finish you off and you pour your nonsense here.
        1. Mite27
          Mite27 April 2 2014 14: 53
          0
          So I beat them (the militants) there, and you only know everything on the Internet and Wikipedia.
  7. padonok.71
    padonok.71 29 March 2014 09: 57
    +15
    Yes, the second part of the Marleson ballet came out better than the first. Before and during the assault, there was a mood that, well, let’s squeeze it, no darlings will go anywhere. And in the end, again twenty-five - they were taken out of the city, sent for treatment, and the documents straightened out. And the obs and prosecutors, etc. etc. In short, they did not give a squeeze. And now they are all in Moscow. Two weeks ago I was there (I took some spare parts), and the head of the company was a well-known client (they took in 2000 under the pressure), and now I’m an honest, respected person. As I saw, I almost suffocated from anger. Maybe Putin is also an Orthodox. Otherwise, why so. If confused - sorry, stifles anger.
    PS: but to those like Vladimir Vasilich THANKS, it is an honor to serve with such commanders. But alas, decisions are made differently.
    1. mirag21x
      mirag21x 30 March 2014 03: 52
      +3
      Your malice is understandable and justified, there are many such cases. And the reason for this is corrupt generals and officials. Putin is the right person, in everything, he brought a lot of shit out of Russia, honor and praise be to him! But he cannot plug all the holes with himself, he fights heroically in his place! That's just the team he got the Yeltsin scum and the plundered country, on the verge of collapse ... Putin managed to stop the main slack and roll back the state into the hollow! Collected, multiplied and continues to multiply and build! It is necessary to take into account how the West interferes with it, to put the country on its feet, they do not need a strong and sober Russia, they are afraid of it, and Putin is like a swallow in their throat.
      1. I think so
        I think so 31 March 2014 23: 58
        0
        Just don’t "only get the Yeltsin foul command" ... Wake up! What a commander and a team! Who's stopping him from replacing the "filthy team"? He's the same as that whole team! One of his protégés, Serdyukov, was worth what for the Russian army ... And such he instructed darkness EVERYWHERE ... I still wonder how with such a corrupt and thieves' leadership Russia still holds out ...
    2. oldstaryi
      oldstaryi 30 March 2014 09: 03
      0
      Another such famous president has become, gives an interview .... bully
  8. makrus
    makrus 29 March 2014 10: 01
    +17
    On the eve of these events, BN Yeltsin introduced his successor and new prime minister, VV Putin. To which the label of "political suicide" was immediately stuck, Yeltsin's rating at that time was "below the plinth" and no one took his protégé seriously. And then there was Beslan, the explosions of houses in Volgodonsk, "NORD OST". It was after our leadership's reaction to the "NORD OST" that I realized that there would be no return to the 90s. Thank you for the LAND OF VOLODYA and for that first victory.
    1. mirag21x
      mirag21x 30 March 2014 04: 08
      +3
      Here !!! Well done!!! I have infinite respect for Putin !!! I perceive attacks on him as a personal insult, it upsets me very much ... Well, how can you not understand basic things ...?! He can be blamed either by fools or by provocateurs! The highest wisdom of man is to distinguish between good and bad.
  9. Volgarr
    Volgarr 29 March 2014 10: 39
    +13
    Stalin was too humane! Bandits must not be expelled but destroyed! They lived for centuries robbery, they can not be persuaded not to re-educate !!!
  10. parus2nik
    parus2nik 29 March 2014 11: 23
    +2
    Not about the war .. about art .. sorry now there are no artists like Vereshchagin ..
  11. Leshka
    Leshka 29 March 2014 13: 34
    +2
    bravo good
  12. ShtyrliTTS
    ShtyrliTTS 29 March 2014 13: 58
    +2
    Everything sounds very nice. It's a pity that it's not "quite" true
    1. go
      go 29 March 2014 14: 37
      +7
      Combined detachments, there was a disagreement between the BB and the army.

      We need to think about creating troops that will specialize in storming or defending a metropolis. The number of megacities in the world is growing steadily, and we still live according to the patterns of the Second World War: the front from the village to the village ... Indeed, the specifics of actions in big cities are obvious. For example, this problem is in an article about the collectors on which the militants moved - well, it’s obvious, people need to be prepared to block it and also work underground. Again, all these tunnels in Syria, the snipers that hold the streets. The author writes that until specialists from other departments were sent, snipers created serious problems. Why other departments, who will tell them about army tactics and when? I think we need special forces for the database in the city. Make a division e.g. The Airborne Forces, which will specialize in this when interacting with other genera, but they would be specialists in the front ranks whom they would transfer for such assaults.
      1. Mite27
        Mite27 29 March 2014 14: 44
        0
        We also ran through the collectors.
      2. pogis
        pogis 29 March 2014 15: 10
        +1
        Quote: go
        Combined detachments, there was a disagreement between the BB and the army.

        We need to think about creating troops that will specialize in storming or defending a metropolis. The number of megacities in the world is growing steadily, and we still live according to the patterns of the Second World War: the front from the village to the village ... Indeed, the specifics of actions in big cities are obvious. For example, this problem is in an article about the collectors on which the militants moved - well, it’s obvious, people need to be prepared to block it and also work underground. Again, all these tunnels in Syria, the snipers that hold the streets. The author writes that until specialists from other departments were sent, snipers created serious problems. Why other departments, who will tell them about army tactics and when? I think we need special forces for the database in the city. Make a division e.g. The Airborne Forces, which will specialize in this when interacting with other genera, but they would be specialists in the front ranks whom they would transfer for such assaults.

        Something similar was cultivated in 12 BrSpn, but it was eliminated!
      3. nerd.su
        nerd.su 29 March 2014 23: 36
        +4
        Quote: go
        We need to think about creating troops that will specialize in storming or defending a metropolis. The number of megacities in the world is growing steadily, and we still live according to the patterns of the Second World War: the front from the village to the village ... Indeed, the specifics of actions in big cities are obvious.

        And what do you dislike about WWII templates? Then everything was worked out in practice, except for the use of weapons of mass destruction. Read about the assault engineering brigades. At least Wikipedia. Everything is new, it is well forgotten old. Naturally, it is necessary to take into account the new opportunities that the modern level of technological development gives.
      4. SIT
        SIT 31 March 2014 00: 12
        +2
        Quote: go
        and we still live according to WWII patterns

        Find on the net this, as you put it, "BOB template"
        Memo
        assault commander
        and assault group
        in charge
        offensive battle
        in a large city
        (April 27, 1945)

        For administrative use

        Read carefully and then it may become clear to you who and how should fight in the conditions of urban development. Parts of the Special Forces and Airborne Forces are intended for completely different tasks. The "star" version of the assault described in the article under discussion at once from several sides is a tracing paper from the operation of the 3rd Belorussian Front in the assault on Konigsberg. If at least someone remembered these templates of the Second World War in 1994, then there would not have been any 2nd Chechen.
  13. pogis
    pogis 29 March 2014 15: 07
    +3
    Quote: MITE27
    I’ll tell you for sure. that the spirits didn’t make any breakthroughs through minefields. These are all inventions of generals, they went anywhere at night.

    But Basayev’s paw was cut off at the sawmill!
    1. Mite27
      Mite27 29 March 2014 16: 24
      -4
      Automatic queue
  14. Sledgehammer
    Sledgehammer 29 March 2014 15: 18
    +2
    It’s good that they made the right conclusions after the first assault.
    Snipers had to be prepared in advance not to forget about them
    in peacetime.
    Something like BMPT on a city street would be very useful
    thing, of course, with the protection of the infantry.
    1. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv 29 March 2014 15: 45
      +3
      Quote: Sledgehammer
      Something like BMPT on a city street would be very useful
      thing, of course, with the protection of the infantry.

      YES...
      More than once I have already described at VO the options for the practical use of BMPT in a city, a suburb, mountain settlements, etc.
      She (BMPT) is certainly not sugar in the current performance, but ... better than nothing.
      With arms and legs, he would tear several of these machines into his unit.

      ps By the way, the "Christmas tree" in the city and began to "build" in the SECOND assault.
  15. Aleks tv
    Aleks tv 29 March 2014 15: 39
    +10
    The second assault was different from the first as heaven and earth ...
    We are almost Did not interfere.

    They knew:
    - What to do.
    - How to do.

    Were:
    - Ammunition.
    - Grub.
    - Supply.

    Yes, a lot of things were NOT THE same as in the first assault ... Anger still existed, such a good COLD Anger.
    And our conscripts are GOLDEN GUYS.

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    ps Interaction between ministries is still lame. Do not just do it at "all levels". I already wrote about this using the example of stretch marks in the mountains.
  16. mvv
    mvv 29 March 2014 16: 15
    +9
    The author forgot to mention a bunch of ATGMs used in the assault. I talked with a direct participant in the assault, so the stack of ATGMs was brought to the unit, if the shilka and art could not suppress the firing point, they plugged it with a rocket. And there were no orders like "save them - they are expensive".
  17. Farvil
    Farvil 30 March 2014 02: 34
    +3
    If it weren’t for Swan, then there would be no need for a second assault, it’s just that all the militants would have been in the cemetery for a long time, but it would be in the way. Enemies always spin at the top.
    1. oldstaryi
      oldstaryi 30 March 2014 09: 11
      +1
      There, Berezovsky and Borovik fussed the most. The second was banged. Although he was warned before the flight, but he sent everyone ... bully
    2. traper
      traper 30 March 2014 16: 56
      +2
      I support, if we weren’t taken out in the 96th, then 99 didn’t have to storm again
  18. Zomanus
    Zomanus 31 March 2014 03: 22
    +3
    Well, let's hope that the experience gained will not be ineptly forgotten. And the next generation will learn the 200 manuals. of the year. After all, this is the worst thing when the experience paid for by the blood is forgotten and then you have to re-remember everything on the blood.
  19. Postovoi
    Postovoi 31 March 2014 20: 23
    +1
    An excellent article, it was a terrible time then, but at that period of the 2nd Chechen company, compared to the 1st, the army and the country were already slightly different, no one interfered with the actions of the Russian troops (the term "federal" is not to my liking. ..) as needed, this is one of the main aspects of success, and the EBN's merit lies only in the fact that he dumped on time (and even managed to apologize), and put Volodka Putin in his place, and he, in turn, as a savior, came on time, and we see how different the country has become during the years of His reign.