The new quality of the old Cossacks

The newly formed branch of troops will be able to effectively participate in ensuring the security of the country.

In peacetime, Cossack troops are able to solve a wide range of tasks to ensure internal stability, and in wartime, after full mobilization deployment, Cossack formations will be able to significantly strengthen territorial defense forces, taking on a solution from 30 to 70 percent of tasks.

The need to create an effective system of territorial defense of the country based on a qualitatively new type of troops in the Russian Armed Forces - the new Cossacks is obvious. However, the question naturally arises: how organizationally can this branch of service be? What should be its structure, what tactical units should be its basis and how should its management be organized? After all, territorial defense involves the solution of very specific tasks that require a special organization of the troops involved for this. Answers to these questions determine the appearance of a new kind of military. First of all, it is interesting to consider those characteristics that determine the operational capabilities of the Cossack troops.

Accordingly, it is first necessary to find out what basic military formations this new branch of service can consist of. This is determined by the specifics of the tasks facing him and the methods used to solve them.

The main ones may be:

1. The fight against sabotage and reconnaissance groups.

2. The destruction of terrorist groups and gangs.

3. Participation in the establishment and maintenance of special legal regimes, martial law or state of emergency in the region.

4. Protection and defense of objects of political, economic, spiritual, or other importance to the state, in particular, infrastructure.

5. Assistance to internal troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and law enforcement agencies in maintaining law and order.

Tactical formations of the Cossack troops

An analysis of the nature of these tasks and possible ways to solve them shows that the highest tactical military formation in the new branch of the military may be a separate regiment of Cossack troops within 2000 – 3000 people.

In dealing with the tasks of combating sabotage and reconnaissance groups, terrorist groups and gangs, it will provide an opportunity to form two or three battalion mobile groups, each of which will create a sufficient advantage in forces to ensure the destruction of identified enemy groups. And when solving other tasks - to ensure control of the designated area or zone.

In addition to a separate regiment, separate battalions and companies of Cossack troops can be formed to solve private tasks in limited areas that do not require large numbers of personnel.

Distinctive features of territorial defense are its rigid binding to a specific territory and objects, joint participation in the implementation of military and civilian authorities with the obligatory interaction of troops, police, state security organs and other services. An important role is played by the local administration, regional authorities of power structures, military units deployed in a given territory. Cossack units should be an integral part of this system. They will act according to the operational plans and under the guidance of the relevant operational management bodies responsible for its implementation in the designated region. From this it follows that Cossack troops will not have to carry out any independent actions of operational scale. They will function as separate tactical units, solving private tasks as part of the operational grouping of territorial defense forces. There should be no military units of operational scale in the composition of the Cossack troops.

The organization of the control of the Cossack troops is determined by the fact that, on the one hand, the military use of the Cossack troops is carried out according to the plans of the territorial bodies of the military command, and on the other hand, the specificity of their daily life activity assumes the existence of a special organization of administrative control. In addition, the economic activity of military industrial settlements is closely and inextricably linked with the territorial economic entities and local authorities.

Three branches of management and readiness

From this follows the necessity of separating the three branches in the control system of the Cossack troops.

Operational. Provides management of units and divisions of the Cossack troops in the course of solving the tasks of territorial defense. It includes the command of subunits, units of Cossack troops, which are subordinate to the military command body responsible for organizing territorial defense in the area and further along the line of operational management of the grouping of troops (forces) of the RF Armed Forces.

Administrative. Organizes the livelihoods of the Cossack troops in everyday conditions, all types of logistics support, training and education of youth, determines the service of the Cossacks and performs other functions necessary for the existence and development of this kind of troops. This, following the Cossack tradition, is the ataman branch of command - from the chieftain of the military-industrial settlement to the supreme ataman of the Cossack troops of Russia.

Territorial. Determines the regulation of production and economic activities of military industrial settlements on the territory of their location. This branch runs from the ataman of the military-industrial settlement to the territorial body of state power and further along the hierarchy of the power vertical.

For the normal life of the Cossack troops, all branches of their management must act in concert. To do this, their goals and objectives, functions and order must be strictly regulated by the relevant documents.

The specificity of the tasks of territorial defense and the peculiarities determined by the militia principle of forming Cossack troops determine the separation of Cossack units and subunits, and other formations according to degrees of readiness. Since the Cossack troops are part of the Armed Forces of Russia, the division of their units and subdivisions according to the degrees of readiness must correspond to that established in other types and kinds of troops, but with its own specifics.

To the first, highest level it is necessary to refer the units and units of constant readiness. The peacetime tasks should be entrusted to these units, for the solution of which it is undesirable to involve military units of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces or internal troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, as well as in conditions of lack of forces. These include the establishment and maintenance of special legal regimes in the region and the protection of important objects, including the suppression of unrest and the maintenance of law and order in certain areas during the exacerbation of the socio-political situation.

The commanding staff of these units should be recruited from among the Cossack officers and other officials serving under the contract. The rest - at the call. This is natural, since for a Cossack who has been brought up as a warrior from a very young age, urgent service will become the first and highest manifestation of his Cossack maturity, which opens up further prospects for him in this field.

An analysis of the nature of internal threats to Russian security, possible ways to counter them, the composition of forces that can be brought to neutralize them from the Armed Forces and the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia, as well as the limitations imposed by the possible volumes of conscription contingents in military industrial settlements will determine the total possible number of Cossack units constant readiness in Russia (three to five separate regiments and 15 – 18 separate battalions), including a number of smaller units. The total number of units and divisions of the Cossack troops of constant readiness will be from 15 to 25 thousand.

Each of the parts of constant readiness can be subordinated to the military authority responsible for organizing territorial defense in a certain zone. However, it is possible to use them within the entire military district by the decision of its commander, especially if it is necessary to concentrate efforts in any area.

The second level can be subdivisions that occupy an intermediate position between the units of constant readiness and personnel in the Ground Forces. These are operational readiness units. Their appearance is due to the specifics of the militia principle of building Cossack troops. In conditions when the military industrial settlement has armament and military equipment (IWT) in its possession, there arises, on the one hand, the question of keeping the IWT in serviceable and operational status, and on the other, it is possible to form an operational group for short periods solving a sudden problem in the area of ​​location of this settlement. The personnel of such units in daily conditions is engaged in normal production activities, allocating part of the time for maintenance of equipment and weapons in storage. However, he cannot leave the settlement, being in an hourly readiness for nomination to solve the arisen task with the appropriate equipment.

Each Cossack recruited to solve official tasks, without prejudice to economic activity, should be some time, for example, two weeks a year, as part of such a unit. Then in each of the military-industrial settlements can be formed to the company operational readiness, and in the largest of them - and more. In total, in Russia, personnel in such formations can reach 40 – 50 thousands of people.

The third level - operational reserve units. Their formation is also determined by the specifics of the militia principle of building Cossack troops. They are designed to increase the efforts of operational readiness units or units of permanent readiness in conditions when, as the situation is clear, their forces are not enough to neutralize the threat. In a situation of intensively developing internal conflict (man-made or natural catastrophe), such a need, as experience shows, can occur within a day. Accordingly, the Cossacks who are in the operational reserve units may leave their settlement, but they must be ready to arrive at the place of formation of the unit within 24 hours. Staying in such readiness does not impose significant restrictions on the daily activities of the Cossack and his family members, production activities, which makes it possible to determine an acceptable period of stay in the operational reserve for each of them one month per year. Then, in each of the military production settlements, up to two companies of operational reserve can be formed. And all over Russia, personnel in such formations can reach 80 – 100 thousands of people.

The units of operational readiness and operational reserve, as a rule, can be used within the area of ​​responsibility of the military-industrial settlement in which they are formed. Although it is possible to transfer them to other areas.

The remaining Cossacks belong to the military-trained reserve in readiness degrees adopted in the Armed Forces of Russia.

Thus, the military-industrial settlement acts as a kind of cadded part, which has at the same time the capabilities of a part of constant readiness, albeit in a much smaller volume. However, as the analysis shows, this is quite enough for the solution of the main tasks of the territorial defense of peacetime and even a threatened period.

Operational capabilities

The Cossack troops built on the outlined approaches will significantly improve the effectiveness of the country's territorial defense.

In peacetime, high mobilization readiness rates, determined by the militia principle of building Cossack troops, combined with mobility (if the Cossack units are equipped with a sufficient number of vehicles and lightly armored vehicles) will allow you to have a safety zone of 100 – 150 radius around each military production settlement. Within this zone, Cossack formations promptly promoted by order of the military command will be able to quickly, within no more than two or three hours, in cooperation with law enforcement forces (building up their potential) or independently at the stage of initiating a crisis situation to neutralize it.

Estimated 40 – 50 of such military production settlements in each of the military districts can create solid security zones covering the most critical regions completely.

And if these forces prove insufficient and the situation gets out of control, the Cossack units of constant readiness can be pulled in, which, in cooperation with the security forces, will create a sufficient grouping of forces to neutralize the threat.

It should be emphasized that the West today can only crush Russia with the use of soft power methods, initiating riots, just as it was done in Ukraine and how it is done today in Venezuela. Under these conditions, there may not be enough regular security forces, as the experience of Ukraine or the “Arab Spring” shows. Attraction to curb the unrest of the Armed Forces will be highly undesirable because they are not intended and not ready for such actions. Their personnel do not have sufficient psychological stability to participate in such actions. In these conditions, the Cossack units and units are indispensable. Formed from mature, ideologically convinced and psychologically stable men, they will be able to solve problems in situations of massive information pressure. The possibility of putting pressure on them by extremists with threats against their families will be virtually ruled out. Living under protection in economically relatively autonomous military-industrial settlements, they will become less vulnerable to external threats.

The operational capabilities of the Cossack troops in peacetime can be assessed in terms of reaction speed and ability to neutralize threats of various scales.

Part of the constant readiness of the Cossack troops of the military district, depending on the distance of their deployment from the area of ​​the threat and with appropriate technical equipment, can begin to perform the assigned combat mission from several hours to two or three days. At the same time solving the problem of maintaining special legal regimes, martial law or a state of emergency in the region, they will be able to control one or two medium-sized cities or an administrative region. By participating in the localization of a border conflict, they are capable of increasing the combat capabilities of a group of formations and units of constant readiness of the RF Armed Forces by 30 – 40 percent. These forces can protect up to one hundred important objects.

Within the areas of responsibility of military production settlements, Cossack troops, by means of operational readiness and operational reserve, have the opportunity, independently and in cooperation with law enforcement agencies, to prevent or suppress riots with the number of participants from 500 to 1500 people, with a response time of no more than two or three hours augmentation of these opportunities within a day to 3000 – 4000 people. Solving the task of fighting gangs and terrorist groups, they can, independently or in cooperation with the MVD, join the battle for two or three hours and defeat an illegal armed group of up to 300 – 400 people. With these forces, the military industrial settlement is capable, if necessary in the area of ​​its responsibility, to provide continuous protection and defense of three or four important objects.

In particularly difficult situations, for the solution of such tasks in a short time (several days or even hours), the main part of the Cossacks of a military-industrial settlement can be mobilized. Then these opportunities will increase several times. Thus, the Cossack settlement in its area of ​​responsibility becomes the most important factor of stability, a center for maintaining order.

In wartime, after full mobilization deployment, Cossack troops will be able to significantly strengthen the territorial defense forces, taking the decision from 30 – 40 to 60 – 70 percent of the tasks. In this way it will be possible to solve the entire scope of the tasks of territorial defense, without diverting parts and formations of the Ground Forces to their solution.

Comments

[Kazakh]

Well now starting. Cossacks are a relic of the past, all polite mummers and loafers Even something to comment is scary.

[Sma11]

Well, why a relic. Estate as an estate. No worse than the Indians in America. Only the whole territory of Russia is not enough.

[platitsyn70]

normal men and work for them will always be found in the vastness of our homeland.

[domokl]

From the point of view of solving the tasks stated in the article, this is complete nonsense. What the hell is the fight against reconnaissance groups? What saboteurs? How can semi-civil formations effectively deal with saboteurs?
guys, but for the whole USSR there was only one such unit. One .. One company for all the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR. But there were really trained people ... Really tiger.
What kind of economic activity combined with the military can we talk about now? Modern equipment and weapons require constant work ... This is not to wave a saber ... And when will the hard workers train? Two weeks a year ... Well, well ...

[Setrac]

Quote: domokl

What kind of economic activity combined with the military can we talk about now? Modern equipment and weapons require constant work ... This is not to wave a saber ... And when will the hard workers train? Two weeks a year ... Well, well ...

I answer in order.
The Cossacks are not a regular army, the Cossacks did not and will not be armed with heavy equipment, in any case, the military will deal with complex weapons.
Workers will train in childhood under the supervision of relatives, and in adulthood - to maintain mastery.

[Vedmed_23]

Fully agree with Setrac, I myself have repeatedly seen in Krasnodar how now they are preparing young Cossacks and I will say that these guys are 10-11 cl. they know a lot of things that a soldier will not be able to do immediately after the demobilization. The militants are a thing of the past, places for training have been allocated, equipment and shooting are not bad, and they haven’t been walking with drafts for a long time, but they know how to throw knives and are not badly prepared for hand-to-hand training. They go to the training camp with GUIN special forces, and there every second maroon beret. And it’s only schoolchildren who, with proper preparation, will give 100% head start to any reservist. So, that makes sense and it is real.

[Setrac]

Quote: Vedmed_23

Mummers are a thing of the past, places for training have been allocated, equipment and shooting are not bad, but they haven’t been walking with drafts for a long time, but they know how to throw knives perfectly and are not badly prepared for hand-to-hand combat.

And we did not have mummers in the Krasnodar Territory, maybe except for the capital of the Territory. In the villages, Cossacks, most of them hunters, have firearms in their hands.

[Angry reader]

About AFP OFP. Heard not? ... Military training camp ... -not?)

[dark_65]

As a national guard, as instructors in physical and patriotic education ... that’s enough, and preferably in each region, well, officials won’t buy one, two sophisticated cars .. but wages and labor camps.

[Hon]

Quote: dark_65

officials will not buy one, two sophisticated cars ..

officials rather will not build a couple of kindergartens

[kot11180]

I wonder what kind of company is this? I have been in the internal troops for 17 years and have not heard of such a thing.

[domokl]

Quote: kot11180

I wonder what kind of company is this? I have been in the internal troops for 17 years and have not heard of such a thing.

9 company of Dzerzhinsky’s division in Balashikha ... Then it became better known as the Vympel detachment .. As the then commanders said, soldiers were no less than candidates for masters in combat sports. And training was only against saboteurs and paratroopers.

[dark_65]

and a big plus from the people are inseparable.

[code]

Such "Cossacks" do not know how to work and will not. They are wearing white gloves!

[Orc-xnumx]

Quote: Sma11

Well, why a relic. Estate as an estate. No worse than the Indians in America. Only the whole territory of Russia is not enough.

Quote: Sma11

Well, why a relic. Estate as an estate. No worse than the Indians in America. Only the whole territory of Russia is not enough.

This estate appeared at certain times in certain places. Now - this is an anachronism!

[Setrac]

Quote: Orc-78

This estate appeared at certain times in certain places. Now - this is an anachronism!

But the orcs are one of the youngest nations.

[domokl]

Quote: Orc-78

. Now - this is an anachronism!

Well, not quite like that, in my opinion ... The Cossacks may well take on the functions of the police in the villages and cities. More precisely, the DND at the police. Then, it is an important task of educating young people, cultural development ..
But as a military force, alas, you are right .. This is nonsense ...

[Hon]

Quote: domokl

More precisely, the DND at the police.

So they are doing it now.

[Robinson]

In this case, the rest of the troops are not needed, nuclear weapons reduce them to nothing. And the Cossacks, you are right can be engaged in the education of youth, dnd, etc. This is all now in peacetime. No one wants to shoot nuclear weapons at us as long as we have something to answer, And if there is an invasion, God forbid, the Cossacks and as a mob. reserve and partisan can. And at the expense of "anachronism", the infantry has not yet been canceled.

[Kazakh]

Indians - the estate? Or maybe a sect? laughing Killed to death! laughing
And better so - breed like breed, no worse than cowboys ... wink

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[matross]

Quote: Sma11

Estate as an estate. No worse than the Indians

Indians - the estate? Or maybe a sect? Killed to death!
And better so - a breed like a breed, no worse than cowboys ...

[Nick]

Quote: Sma11

Only the whole territory of Russia is not enough.

Why so? In each region, you can organize similar formations, organized by the police principle. By the way, in Russia, even under the tsar-priest, in each industrial center there was a Cossack hundred, or even several ...

[avdkrd]

Quote: Sma11

Estate as an estate. No worse than the Indians in America

The fact of the matter is that the Cossacks at the moment are not an estate. I respect the Cossacks as such with all respect, but at the moment it’s just a political movement with an incomprehensible program and the ability to have armed formations. In the historical sense, if you link the Cossacks with Russia, then this is primarily the estate, which had its rights and had clear responsibilities. In fact, they were allocated land that they cultivated and earned income, while the Cossacks were exempted from taxes, but in return were required to expose in the event of a threat not just a militia, but professional soldiers. The entire male population was actually them. I repeat now, but the Cossacks in their current form are more like a militarized club, which, thanks to increased political influence, was allowed to use real weapons, and in the Kuban they were also entrusted with police functions. It would be nice if the state had such an approach to creating a national guard (I apologize but by analogy with the ASPnet), our country consists not only of the descendants of the Cossacks. Properly organized training of the reserve of aircraft and professional management of this reserve in case of crisis will give more sense and understanding in society.

[Turkir]

"If you throw something into an empty jug, he strumming" is a Kazakh proverb.

[siberalt]

Well. The Cossack cavalry is back! And who is a Cossack without a horse, everyone knows

[mirag2]

Sorry, that is not the topic, it's a very funny photo.
In Ukraine, in the West, the action "Don't let the Russian" take place.

[Kazakh]

Quote: mirag2

Sorry, that is not the topic, it's a very funny photo.
In Ukraine, in the West, the action "Don't let the Russian" take place.

If you take this photo but God forbid take the liver will fall off

[Curculum]

Quote: mirag2

In Ukraine, in the West, the action "Don't let the Russian" take place.

So, "give it to the American"? (or someone else there). Lovely, let those similar and fuck, and we somehow love will be our true beauties.

[Tatanka Yotanka]

Quote: mirag2

"don't let the Russian".

let her dreams dream
Russian toad will not climb,
how do you not bulge eyes
Ivan Tsarevich, only in a fairy tale

[Setrac]

Quote: Kazakh

Well now starting. Cossacks are a relic of the past, all polite and loafers. Even something scary to comment on.

If you listen to the liberals, then the armed forces themselves are a relic of the past, like the police, such concepts as patriotism, the homeland, and so on.

[de klermon]

Cossacks "Cossacks" strife! A drunk mummer, with a swollen face somewhere in the guard in Moscow, working - this is one thing, but a laborious tractor driver who served in the army, somewhere in the Don or Kuban steppe - this is a REAL COSSACK!

PS Song of the Cossacks of the village of Naurskaya, Chechnya, 1994:

What did you do Mother Russia?
What did the Cossacks do before you?
Or we defended you badly
Or didn’t they pray for you in the churches?
Remember, Dear, we are your children,
And children cannot be offended by their mother.
In difficult times you call us
And the Cossacks, as one, will help everyone!
Remember always that trouble is not trouble,
If the Cossack will be at your borders.
He will protect and feed you
Remember him, he will not forget you.
This is not a fairy tale, not a parable, but a reality!
People were offended by fate ...
He remembers in the steppe that drooping feather grass,
A black crow over his head ...

What is not a topic for reflection?

[Weniamin]

all polite and loafers

I partially agree. My neighbor in the country is a hereditary Trans-Baikal Cossack. He knows horses firsthand - he drove around them, the collective farm herds grazed in childhood, he still says he dreams. And the equipment he has corresponding in his closet weighs. And he has a hereditary checker. But I have never seen him dressed in uniform. He says, ashamed of him, he becomes on a par with our city Cossack women, who saw horses only on TV and from car windows. "Costumed".

[RUSS]

The words of the author are in the "ears of God". Cossacks want and know how to serve, but there is still no solution ...

[dmitrich]

they showed themselves perfectly in the Crimea.

[Retx]

In Transnistria, they showed themselves. With Crimea, everything is expected.

[Genur]

MIA-shnikam Cossacks something adopt. Maybe they would respect them, and not just be afraid

[miraculous]

modern crowd control techniques or street combat tactics? What exactly should the Ministry of Internal Affairs learn from mumbled pseudo-warriors?

[225chay]

Quote: RETX

In Transnistria, they showed themselves. With Crimea, everything is expected.

And in Abkhazia do not forget ...

[Hon]

Quote: Dmitry

they showed themselves perfectly in the Crimea.

and on the Maidan ...

[Hon]

Quote: RUSS

Cossacks want and know how to serve, but there is no solution ...

Is there not enough strength to reach the military registration and enlistment office?

[code]

Would like to serve would know where to go. Who to serve? Where did you study? Some questions.

[miraculous]

no, because they are a relic of the past, all polite and lazy

[ZU-23]

And I liked how the Cossacks brought up the little snacks in Sochi, just like in the good old days, using the ass to fire

[Cripple cross]

I’ll support you here! These were just those people who did not hesitate to rigidly point out moral standards of behavior in society and, without any stupid courts and bureaucratic delays, fluttered these slop .. negligent girls.

[strannik595]

how the Cossacks brought up the snacks

ass pounding fire

........... brave guys, I would also have some kind of foot, 19-20 years old, unfastened on the pink ass, and she would shout, uhhhhh !!! how Tsapkov expelled from Kushchevskaya so immediately from Moscow the Interior Ministry brigade was called ......... master's shoulder work, xxxx - he

[Robinson]

It was not necessary to put him in jail but on Red Square, live on the bare ass and not with a whip, but with a baguy (maybe he called it wrong but that was called by his grandmother) I think 3 hits would be enough. Arrived in childhood, it is clear that not much, and then remember. The main thing is more nodules and a cut.

[Bayonet]

You should have seen the howl raised on the Don news website! There is such a news agency in Rostov-on-Don and the name in English “in the spirit of the times.” As soon as the Cossacks did not curse in the comments, this is on the Don !!! There, in general, the "commentators" of the Cossacks at any mention - mummers, freaks, drunks are called! Don has become rotten today, Good Sholokhov, Zakrutkin - the singers of the Cossack region, do not see this bacchanalia. Office slime is swaggering!

[Alecto]

And you think on this site there will not be those who will not call these mummers idlers somehow differently. Yes, I am from the Don, I have lived here all my life and I declare that your place is in ethnographic tourist zones, like the popular "Cossack" village of Starocherkasskaya. And if some doll in stripes tries to show me a whip, I will remind you who a Russian woman is. So I'll finish it, you won't cover it with a single hat! A healthy man with adrenaline - go to the Army, to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, to the Ministry of Emergency Situations, go to the land, the wasteland around Rostov, they filled everything up with Turkish vegetables. No, why should the peasants work, they can show off who paints their lips, who steals our tights, and who dressed up in stripes. "Competitors" alone around. And a decent peasant - with fire in the afternoon!

[code]

In the right words!

[miraculous]

Cossacks are a relic of the past, all polite mummers and loafers

[Cripple cross]

I approach the Cossacks a little from a different angle. It doesn’t matter if they are hereditary Cossacks or not. The important thing is how these people are ready to accept the Cossack and his culture within themselves. If people are ready to realize themselves for the benefit of society in this field, then let it be so.
If someone is not hereditary Pushkin A.S., this does not mean that he cannot be his connoisseur, cannot write poetry in his style, imitate in every way and so on and so forth. On the contrary! It is good that there are ideals on which a person can develop and realize himself.

[ZU-23]

Well, on the other hand, if he is a loafer he doesn’t steal and doesn’t reenact, and no matter what gopot they always indicate their place on the street. Then you look even in the Crimea, they immediately took up defense first.

[Alecto]

Yeah, they would have taken it, if not for "polite people in military uniforms without identification marks" and the entire Black Sea Fleet of Russia. Why not "fight". Lie in the steppe with a berdan, eat, drink, wait for the guests :)) But the "guests" never showed up. They fought well :)) the hats were aired so that the moth would not start.

[Hon]

Quote: CrippleCross

I approach the Cossacks a little from a different angle. It doesn’t matter if they are hereditary Cossacks or not. The important thing is how these people are ready to accept the Cossack and his culture within themselves. If people are ready to realize themselves for the benefit of society in this field, then let it be so. If someone is not hereditary Pushkin A.S., this does not mean that he cannot be his connoisseur, cannot write poetry in his style, imitate in every way and so on and so forth. On the contrary! It is good that there are ideals on which a person can develop and realize himself.

Cossacks, like flowers, are field and decorative. The former are almost gone, the latter are experiencing rapid prosperity.

[Turkir]

Why do you hate the Zaporozhye Cossacks so much? Did you manage to record this micro-thought on Ukrainian sites or copying it off from others, sign your complete mental impotence?

[Setrac]

Quote: chudoudodelt

Cossacks are a relic of the past, all polite mummers and loafers

If you revive on horses with sabers and muskets - then there is no doubt - this is a relic of the past, but if you revive on trucks with machine guns and ATGMs, then autumn is even useful.

[Hon]

Quote: Setrac

If you revive on horses with sabers and muskets - then there is no doubt - this is a relic of the past, but if you revive on trucks with machine guns and ATGMs, then autumn is even useful.

There is an army, it has trucks and other elements of politeness. Why do we need to create duplicate structures, but still do not understand from whom? Allocate funds for their training and armament, when these funds can be spent on the armed forces.

[Setrac]

Quote: Hon

There is an army, it has trucks and other elements of politeness.

Do not forget, the Cossacks existed when the Russian army consisted of recruits, not draftees. The Cossacks were a mobilization resource, and I will tell you, they were a better mobilization resource than modern conscripts.

[Hon]

Quote: Setrac

Do not forget, the Cossacks existed when the Russian army consisted of recruits, not draftees. The Cossacks were a mobilization resource, and I will tell you, they were a better mobilization resource than modern conscripts.

The key word was. And now? Calling the current folklore - edinovorovskoe or nationalistic gathering (registered and public) Cossacks is the same as calling today's entrepreneurs - merchants, when no written agreements were signed, or visitors to current "noble gatherings" - nobles. Perhaps there is a small part of decent people in the lower structures who sincerely believe in the so-called. "revival", but they are more "talk"))). Over the past ten years there have been a lot of interethnic conflicts, in the Stavropol Territory (Suvorovskaya, Zelenokumsk, Kurskaya, Stavropol, Nevinnomyssk), on the Don (Remontnoye, Salsk, Peschannokopskaya), Astrakhan (Enotaevka, Baibek, Yandaki), in the Kuban (Tuapse, children's camp "Don"), etc. Where, at least once, did the "Cossacks" do something? ... well, perhaps from the bushes, they shouted something formidable ... Everything !!! Especially indicative is the case in Tuapse, where the unbelted Chechens were driven under their bunks and forced to quickly "evacuate", that is to say, the Armenians flee ... And the registered "fearless", like the Greben "independent" Cossacks squealed with their tail between their legs, and only afterwards "boldly" squealed. ..

[225chay]

Quote: Hon

Where, at least once, did the "Cossacks" do something? ... well, perhaps, from the bushes, they shouted something formidable ... Everything !!! Especially indicative is the case in Tuapse, where the unbelted Chechens were driven under their bunks and forced to quickly "evacuate", that is to say, the Armenians flee ... And the registered "fearless", like the Greben "independent" Cossacks squealed with their tail between their legs, and only afterwards they "boldly" squealed. ..

Well, do not drive so peremptorily!
About a year ago, if I’m wrong, correct ethnic hooligans in Kislovodsk robbed a kid, and several young Cossacks walked after his training camp, or luckily. By the way, from non-drinkers and sports.
So the kid complained about this as you call "mummers" and they did not pass by. The Cossacks politely offered the hooligans to return the loot, to which they were attacked by the superior forces of ethnic bandits. But the guys did not give up and fought back after which they were fired upon from traumatic weapons. In addition, the bandits tried to use edged weapons, but one small Cossack woman, if I am not mistaken by the name of Mokhov, put three of the most active at once: an Armenian, a Georgian to death and punished them in the hospital.
So not all real Cossacks were exterminated by directive (one can say by direct decree) the enemy of the Russian people, Sverdlov, Yakov Mikhailovich and others. As if they did not want to

[dmitrich]

Quote: Hon

Quote: Setrac

If you revive on horses with sabers and muskets - then there is no doubt - this is a relic of the past, but if you revive on trucks with machine guns and ATGMs, then autumn is even useful.

There is an army, it has trucks and other elements of politeness. Why do we need to create duplicate structures, but still do not understand from whom? Allocate funds for their training and armament, when these funds can be spent on the armed forces.

where the army is impossible, but the Cossacks can.

[dmitrich]

Quote: chudoudodelt

Cossacks are a relic of the past, all polite mummers and loafers

you tell them that.

[Samurai3X]

During the empire, the Cossacks did this. Protection of order and borders of the state.
And in our times, the presence of state semi-military (in peacetime) formations is very useful for order in cities and regions.
I don't remember who said this about the Cossacks: "A semi-mobilized unofficial army!"
Definitely for)

[Gagarin]

It seems to me that such a power structure will ALWAYS BE ORDER CLOSER TO THE PEOPLE than the police.
Under the kings, the Cossacks were always a parallel force (army, police) - were not our fools not fools ?!

[Cossacks]

I’m probably very dumb, but I didn’t understand anything from the article. For reference, I am a 100% canal. If you understand what I mean, I ask the author to explain your disposition but more simply.

[Turkir]

There are no 100% chaldons, Russians, etc.
I consider myself a 100% chaldon - it happens.

"I am sorry that my parents died as Indians without realizing that FIRST of all, they were HUMANS." - Don Juan

[Sledgehammer]

A good undertaking, God help them, a great example for young people.
Surely there will be fewer crimes in the region. Alas, efficiency is now
even after the reform, the police want to be better.

[parusnik]

I don’t know .. I don’t know .. I have a housemate, I was a warrant officer at one time, I shot all cigarettes, I quit smoking because of him, he signed up for the Cossacks, everything is as it should be in the Kuban, Circassian, balyk, at lunch with a partner he patrols, you can’t see at night, but he still shoots cigarettes ..

[Cripple cross]

Well ensign is in the blood! No Cossacks corrode !!! Shoot, shoot and will shoot

[Tersky]

Quote: parusnik

at lunch, he patrols the streets, can’t see at night, but he still shoots cigarettes ..

Everything is as tricky as that, only Cossacks who shoot cigarettes listen to you, or only Cossacks shoot cigarettes.

Quote: parusnik

I quit smoking because of him

Or maybe because of greed ? Not... ..Then say thank you to the neighbor, he has saved you so much health .. .

[Turkir]

Your style is very similar to the style of Zoshchenko. Could write a whole story, but we would read it with great pleasure. Talent must be developed.

[avt]

Ek then kicked him! Yesterday, the GDP was convicted of indecision and the fact that Novorossia had a shit. Now he began to play Cossack robbers. Not, well, when keeping the traditions in the west, old cavalry units ride tanks, fly helicopters, they keep gurks, as it is clear - tradition is a good thing for morale. But here to fence this city with some separate, almost parallel troops !? Can all the same with the available reserves take up the mobile reserve, as an adult, without song and dance ensembles, even good ones? So that they are all packed and armed as one, but you shouldn’t be indulged in by the most. So that in the Crimea, politely they would inspire not only cloaks and daggers with sabers. And not to deal with this cyan joke - not my children, Fruz, come here, we’ll do new ones, and we will appoint Sivkov’s chief commander’s commander with a headquarters in Pyatigorsk - there you will look to rest from geopolitical labors, drink some water and calm down. And it’s not so far from Kashenko.

[kolyhalovs]

And why actually? Do we have a problem with the internal troops? Why arm the civilians?

[Sma11]

Do we have a problem with the internal troops? Why arm the civilians?

Problem, oh what a problem especially with the police.

"Grandpa, why are you watering the flowers with kerosene, will they wither? But, granddaughter, the machine gun will not rust."

But I wouldn’t refuse a karamultuk in the closet .

[Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.]

What problems? Now everything can be purchased legally! The Kalashnikov assault rifle in civilian performance seems to be Saiga -MK called.

[Sma11]

But, grandson, the machine gun will not rust

That would be his darling in the front garden

[Turkir]

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm calmer when weapons, even tramatic, fall into the hands of people who have centuries-old military TRADITIONS than nervous young people who do not know how to CONTROL their own feelings and do not know how to assess the degree of danger.

[Kazakh]

Quote: kolyhalovs

And why actually? Do we have a problem with the internal troops? Why arm the civilians?

But for the same as in the Crimea it would always be possible to say know nothing, know nothing, we don’t know Cossacks themselves, without asking you, you have recaptured the area. Or offer VV to introduce with subsequent world cries of democracy. And for those who are only polite hopes I will say that not only in the Crimea Cossacks are now

[Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.]

In order to cover up the actions of their official power structures in a situation like the Crimean one, you need to have private military companies well controlled by the state, like in the West. They say that some of the local hired them for protection, and we have nothing to do with it! And where the Cossacks are supposedly now located, our special services should be located with appropriate support. They have more experience in such matters and other opportunities.

[Setrac]

Quote: kolyhalovs

And why actually? Do we have a problem with the internal troops? Why arm the civilians?

The people and the army are one.

[Arkan]

A project that does not take into account the real situation in the areas of residence of the Cossacks.

[timeout]

My personal opinion. The Cossacks in the old days (before the revolution) were an estate, but not a military branch or a nation. So after the revolution all became equal and all estates were destroyed, the Cossacks also disappeared. What is now called Cossacks, most of them mummers who have appropriated non-existent titles and positions. Everyone who was born in the Don or Kuban already a priori considers himself a Cossack, although this is not so. Moreover, the chieftain, by all rules, owes them royal blood. Is Russia ready to revive the estate so that the Cossacks have all the rights and obligations as in the case of the tsar?

[Rostovchanin]

Is Russia ready to revive the estate so that the Cossacks have all the rights and obligations as in the case of the tsar?

Is it in the sense of being landowners exempted from taxes, but having their own military ammunition?

[timeout]

Quote: Rostovchanin

Is it in the sense of being landowners exempted from taxes, but having their own military ammunition?

No, to be a military estate, to have the right to the nobility as it is written in the table of ranks, and also to have the heir to the throne at the head of the Cossacks as the canons require.

[Setrac]

Quote: Rostovchanin

Is it in the sense of being landowners exempted from taxes, but having their own military ammunition?

Quote: Timeout

No, to be a military estate, to have the right to the nobility as it is written in the table of ranks, and also to have the heir to the throne at the head of the Cossacks as the canons require.

I think the main problem here is legal. The question is that some civilians have the right to own and use weapons in peacetime at their own discretion, while in our country the state does not trust its citizens. Under the idea of ​​the Cossacks need to bring the legal and economic base

[Tersky]

Quote: Timeout

Moreover, the chieftain, by all rules, owes royal blood to them.

Where did you read these "rules" (nonsense)? Ataman, as long as the Cossacks exist, has always been chosen by the Cossack circle, any Cossack can become ataman, regardless of social status. Not by titles and titles, but by deeds.

[timeout]

Dear, I have a great-grandfather Terek Cossack and grandfather has grown up to the Cossack. But for some reason I’m not a Cossack ... Or did you have a class in your passport?

In modern language, this was the head of the local (farm, village = kuren) administration, elected by the Cossacks at the gathering.

ATAMAN, 1) leader of an armed detachment.
2) The supreme chief of the Cossack army (military, punitive, marching, ataman), the head of the Cossack administrative-territorial unit (district, department, village, farm ataman) or unit commander (smoking ataman).
ATAMAN Cossack, military-administrative position, as well as the title of persons with executive and judicial powers.
Depending on the historical period, this term (included in a number of phrases) had different meanings.
In Zaporizhzhya Sich, the ataman was considered the senior military leader and administrator (the first three chieftains of the Black Sea Army were also named).
Athens headed the smoking atamans, and there were also the ranks of regimental, school, krumny (in charge of trade), fox (in charge of hunting) atamans. Among the Don Cossacks, the chief leader was the military chieftain (elected by the military circle), and at the time of his absence - the chief ataman.
A marching ataman was elected for military enterprises and for serving outside the army, and atamans of winter and light villages (heads of embassies) were sent to perform diplomatic and representative functions.
At the local level there were district (in the Kuban atamans of departments), village and farm chieftains.
The position of a military chieftain existed in all areas until October 2, 1827. From that moment on, the heir to the Russian throne began to be appointed the august chief of all Cossack troops, and those who actually headed the field were transferred to the category of punishable chieftains (they were considered to correct this position in the absence of a military chieftain).
After the fall of the monarchy in Russia in 1917, the ranks of army chieftains in all Cossack Troops were restored, but for a short time. The last military chieftains, nominally retaining their posts, as a rule, died or died in exile.
After 1920, only atamans of various public associations and villages of emigrant Cossacks who arose in various countries were elected abroad.
After the revival of the Cossacks in Russia since the 1990s, the institution of atamanism of all degrees and levels was restored.

Kuren (from Chagat. Kuran “crowd”, “tribe”, “detachment of warriors”; “bakery”) - Cossack (also in some regions of Ukraine) dwelling, house. Historically, the “chicken” was both a habitat and a defense structure. In the XVI — XVIII centuries. military-administrative unit of the Zaporizhzhya Sich, the Black Sea Cossack army, as well as the type of unit (battalion), numbering several hundred Cossacks ...

Is that nonsense too?

[Kazakh]

Dear, I have a great-grandfather Terek Cossack and grandfather has grown up to the Cossack. But for some reason I’m not a Cossack ... Or did you have a class in your passport?

Yes, some ancestors have 33 Russian knees, but great-great-grandparents .... I don’t rub my grandson

[Tersky]

Quote: Timeout

Dear, I have a great-grandfather Terek Cossack and grandfather only grown up to the Cossack.

Really? And this is where in the afternoon? "The Cossack Cossack Circle (general, gross) gathers once a year on the Day of the main temple holiday after the prayer service. The Cossack Ataman is selected at the general village Circle exclusively from among the farmstead (or kuren) chieftains included in this village. The Stanitsa Ataman presents to the Circle for approval of the candidacy of the comrade ataman (stanitsa esaul), treasurer and clerk.The chairman of the stanitsa council of elders presides over the stanitsa Circle, the activity of the stanitsa Circle is blessed by the abbot of the stanitsa church, the report of the stanitsa ataman is heard and discussed, the chairman of the stanitsa council of elders and the Court of Honor Councils (stanitsa mamuka), heads (chieftains) of Cossack artels and enterprises (koshes). Cossacks who have reached the age of 18 take the Cossack oath on this day. "To your great rosary, I am a hereditary Terek Cossack. True, I don’t overtighten with beshmet, I don’t rush to Circassian, and I don’t catch aluminum medals. Cossack, he is a Cossack in his soul, and not in a hat.

[timeout]

Quote: Tersky

To your great rosary, I am a hereditary Terek Cossack. True, I don’t overtighten with beshmet, I don’t rush to Circassian, and I don’t catch aluminum medals. Cossack, he is a Cossack in his soul, and not in a hat.

In your disappointment, I have grandfathers and great-grandfathers too, Terek Cossacks from the village of Chervlennaya and I returned there already in the 1st Chechen one. And he was born far from the Cossack villages, although many posts where we now have cities founded by Cossacks and I do not consider myself a Cossack. Did I somehow humiliate you? And you tried to make me look like an idiot. I understand that in your heart you are a Cossack, very happy for you. Only need to separate reality from fiction.

[Rostovchanin]

To your great rosary, I am a hereditary Terek Cossack. True, I don’t overtighten with beshmet, I don’t rush to Circassian, and I don’t catch aluminum medals. Cossack, he is a Cossack in his soul, and not in a hat.

... I am relatively young, but the roots are real Cossack, my ancestors, Zaporozhye Cossacks, were resettled from the Poltava region in the 19th century, to protect the railway (purely Cossack responsibilities) during the construction of the railway Tsaritsin - Ekaterinodar. The ancestors protected the railway from the raids of Kalmyk nomads in the station. The Grand-Ducal, before this, the Kolmyk tract Kara-Cheplak, now the town of Proletarsk, Rostov Region, for 50 years ... An allotment was issued
great-great-grandfather had a farm, his own mill ... children in the families of grandfathers and great-grandfathers never had less than 7 people ... They were brought up with love for family and homeland, the last man in the family was shot in the 20s, the inheritance was passed on through the female line ... we still cherish the life of the Cossacks and their culture ... and most importantly, their songs and hard work ... my father and I have always considered ourselves Don Cossacks ... we do not wear medals and checkers (although we do have them at home). So that's what I mean !!! I want my children and nephews to be brought up in the patriotic spirit of the Cossacks ... To serve the Motherland and its People ... And so that the "bottom" of the enemies trembled from this spirit!

[Kazakh]

My personal opinion. The Cossacks in the old days (before the revolution) were an estate, but not a military branch or a nation.

But it was not a military branch and was called irregular cavalry

[timeout]

So most consider the Cossacks a kind of army ...

[Kazakh]

So most consider the Cossacks a kind of army ...

So most considered the pedal Klitschko a man

[timeout]

Unsuccessful comparison ... Many people do not understand this, they will think that you identify the Cossacks with the Klitschko.

[Kazakh]

Unsuccessful comparison ... Many people do not understand this, they will think that you identify the Cossacks with the Klitschko.

Do you think many are stupid here?

[timeout]

Many are schoolchildren who simply don’t think.

[Kazakh]

Many are schoolchildren who simply don’t think.

those who are not thinking on other sites are sitting those who are here who are young are not experienced yet but THINKING ATTEMPT and our task is to help them in this

[Setrac]

Quote: Timeout

Unsuccessful comparison ...

This is the premise that the majority opinion is not necessarily correct, and often quite the opposite.

[Turkir]

There is truth in your words. It is impossible not to agree.
Leave the Cossacks alone. Consider this issue a little wider. Tradition is what has disappeared in the Russian family. This is respect for bread, for parents, for children. This is a tradition of family education. To the Motherland, to old people, to the land.
Children send elderly parents to nursing homes is it in Russian or is it all the same, already in American? Children leave the family, as early as possible, to another city, to a foreign land, and then, having achieved nothing, they demand from their parents the sale or exchange of apartments and stuff them into one-room "Khrushchevs". And that's even better. The virgin lands, BAM, all these VEKA construction sites destroyed family ties and brought up a vagabond who did not know kinship with the psychology.
In Cossack families, traditions remained. And, nothing wrong with the fact that they have preserved the traditions, songs and Russian mentality, I do not see.
They have classiness, and so it is, faithfulness to their word. But to stop taxing them with a land tax is a good idea. I’m not sure that I expressed my idea well, but I’m sure that in my point of view, as well as in yours, there is also a good idea. Sincerely.

[Kazakh]

Turkir

That’s exactly the main tradition that we lose when civilization sets in and the hat of the hat is already secondary but not everyone understands this

[darksoul]

Quote: kolyhalovs

And why actually? Do we have a problem with the internal troops? Why arm the civilians?

Let it be, it definitely won’t be worse from them, they can solve issues well with Caucasian friends and Gaster

[Sashka_Gusar]

I watched as Cossacks Pussy Riot umutohali, so I'm generally now for this idea

[siberalt]

Yeah! All Cossacks are not enough prostitutes

[Alecto]

Here it is, a worthy replenishment of the Cossacks. Loser with sadistic inclinations. I watched as two fools were "fucked up". They, for their stupidity, among other things, received a term and served time. And a man's moronic for his trick - applause. And for such "heroic tricks", too, an article is supposed. Well done among the sheep! I give the motto to the banner of the reviving Cossacks

[ya.seliwerstov2013]

Quote: kolyhalovs

And why actually? Do we have a problem with the internal troops? Why arm the civilians?

I agree. Power should be only with the State and not with the Unions of people according to interests or national characteristics !!!!

[RUSS]

Quote: ya.seliwerstov2013

I agree. Power should be only with the State and not with the Unions of people according to interests or national characteristics !!!!

She smelled of tolerance.

[VeteranS]

The Cossacks at all times have been a stronghold of the state, a defender of the Orthodox faith, a source of patriotism among the people! There are, of course, in the Cossacks and "mummers" who donned the Cossack uniform because of their selfish interests, but there are only a few of them. I consider it necessary to create Cossack military formations as part of the Russian Air Force, and for the Cossacks to count the service life in these formations as a full-fledged service in the Russian Armed Forces! God save Russia and Holy Russia!

[timeout]

Quote: VeteranS

God save Russia and Holy Russia!

Then, if according to all the canons, it is first necessary to revive the monarchy, the nobility and the Cossacks as an estate. Or do we have hereditary Cossacks and all skills are transmitted through mother’s milk, like a kinship among Jews?

[Setrac]

Quote: Timeout

Or our Cossacks are hereditary and all skills are transmitted through mother’s milk

This is a distinctive feature of the Cossacks, mastery is passed from father to son through education and training. Your stupid things are out of place here.

[timeout]

Dear, how many Cossacks survived after the civil? And how many then Yezhov finished off? Even the demographic curve does not export to raise a Cossack after 30 years. The 9th Plastun division of Metalnikov can be respected, again, all the fathers and grandfathers were in it, only that was left of this division to educate again. To compare that generation of real Cossacks, and the current mummers who don’t even know the historical colors of their troops, is simply not correct.

[Kazakh]

Dear, how many Cossacks survived after the civil? And how many then Yezhov finished off?

Well, let’s let our ears drop now and quietly remember it. But I have an example, even if it’s harsh. The same Galicians and Germans and Poles and Stalin beat but still didn’t achieve anything anyway, they bend theirs whether we like it or not

[timeout]

Quote: Kazakh

Well, let’s let our ears drop now and quietly remember it. But I have an example, even if it’s harsh. The same Galicians and Germans and Poles and Stalin beat but still didn’t achieve anything anyway, they bend theirs whether we like it or not

Is it worth it to distort and take it out of context

The 9th Plastun division of Metalnikov can be respected, again, all the fathers and grandfathers were in it, only that was left of this division to educate again.

It’s a tough example in 1985, at least one in the village of Aleksandrovskaya said that he was a Cossack, except for the grandfather-shepherd, but now all the Cossacks.

[Alecto]

Yes Yes. A good stronghold of the state. With a whip (at best) to disperse the dissatisfied. Place "Cossacks" in ethnic museums, let patriotism expire there.

[RUSS]

Quote: Alekto

Place "Cossacks" in ethnic museums, let patriotism expire there.

Alexandra, where is your place? Where will you bile expire?

[Alecto]

Everything is all right with bile, as well as with health in general. And my place is not for you, and not for peasants in suits from theatrical costume designers to determine. I work, grove children and have my own view of what is happening. What I wish you. Life goes forward, not backward. Everything should spiral upward and not fall downward. Maybe we will also remember that in the Don lands, once the Amazons hosted, or the Scythians with the Sarmatians. Why revive that which has died and no one needs it, except for a couple of hundreds of men who have nowhere else to stick themselves to? Why spend money, time, labor on this? Why create unnecessary power structures in addition to those that already exist? With the so-called Cossacks, which actually disappeared in the Summer, play until it bothers the state, and then what? Again disarm, plant, exile and force to work, but already under protection?

[dmb]

Navy grandfather in his repertoire. Just ten days ago, he wrote the same on the same site. Now he swapped the sentences in the article and passed them off as completely fresh. It seems that he cynically knocks down the cobble together with the editor of the military-industrial complex. However, the second option is also possible, age-related changes are affecting, and he no longer remembers that such stupidity has already been announced to them.

[avt]

Quote: VeteranS

At all times, the Cossacks were the stronghold of the state, the defender of the Orthodox faith, the source of patriotism among the people!

Oh well! This is the number! But what about Krasnov and his "Cossack"? How does it fit into the theory of the "stronghold of the state"? Well, what to do with the "defenders" who beat Kornilov at 17 meters and did not support him, which is why Kaledin shot himself out of shame, did not enduring the shame, as a man of honor. And what kind of "Orthodoxy" Krasnovskys, having taken the oath personally to Hitler, defended, working as punishers? Well, somehow be more careful with generalizations, then take a sober look at life.

[Setrac]

Quote: avt

why did Kaledin shoot himself with shame

For he was a fool.

Quote: avt

But what about Krasnov and his "Cossack"? How does it fit into the theory of the "stronghold of the state"?

Cossacks swore allegiance to the king, and were faithful to him. They did not swear allegiance to the Bolsheviks, White Guards, Mensheviks, essers, and other creatures.

[avt]

Quote: Setrac

For he was a fool.

But "smart" were those Cossacks, from officers to privates, who decided to sit out in Rostov, and then Trotsky and Sverdlov combed them in accordance with revolutionary expediency. Presumably, according to your logic, "their mind" was in the subsequent rehabilitation of the 90s years. Well then, yes, they are very rich in reason, if they decided to stir up such a pretzel for the future.

Quote: Setrac

Cossacks swore allegiance to the king, and were faithful to him.

Yeah, now both the faith and the fatherland have disappeared, the tsar of which, according to the oath, seemed to be defended, so much so that they merged him with the whole corps with the whole brood, promoted even not by the Bolsheviks - Krasnov, and then his own Cossack Kornilov, who left for, , Ice campaign ". Where were all these brilliant Leib Cossacks from the convoy, in whose uniform Nicky liked to dress up when his conspirators at the Bottom station pinched it? Yes, against their background, the Wild go, they say the Russians and they have no reason to knead, but the tsar and the whole family were offered shelter, because they said they swore an oath - come with your family and live. Your will, you may not believe in sincerity, but even a simple declaration somehow looks more noble against the general background of Nicky's entry in her diary about general betrayal and deception.

[Setrac]

Quote: avt

Yeah, faith and fatherland have already fallen away

This is just a beautiful slogan, the oath was given to the king, not to the patriarch, and the fatherland - from the word father - place of birth (country region), and not a political entity.

[avt]

Quote: Setrac

This is just a beautiful slogan, the oath was given to the king, not to the patriarch, and the fatherland - from the word father - place of birth (country region), and not a political entity.

Oh well . Let’s take it to the end - they gave it to us and took it back. When you need to get the trunks legally - we’ll drive away the blizzard about defending the homeland, there’s a king there, again you can drive around the Orthodox faith, and stand in a cordon for a holiday around the priests. And as soon as they got their way, the tsar de himself faded - he denied and owed nothing to anyone, but the trouble is - Trotsky was drawn with revolutionary expediency and the idea that abruptly dancing and dancing, the fatherland seems to be his own, well, we won’t hold the Cossack under his feet , let's go and swear Hitler with Krasnov, and the same faith .... but the view from the side, they say, roll off with your Gundyaev and next in turn. And then they grieve very much - why did this German woman of such Orthodox knights from Sich turn around, and Peter No. 1 screwed the Don cool one fast. One word is satraps. Her guys. The Cossacks acted alone and as part of large military formations, there is no dispute and their merits are noted in their affairs. BUT as part of the regular army of the EMPIRE, how its subjects and as soon as they broke away from the Russian World, different people, nations and troops began to fool around in the Cossacks — they always got a sniff out of their feet. It was and always will be. Although they walked and balamut not childishly throughout the whole of Great Russia during the weakening of central authority, that under False Dmitry, that under Stepan Timofeevich, that under Emelyan.

[Setrac]

Quote: avt

Let’s go to the end - both given and taken back.

They didn’t take anything, and they defended faith and fatherland no worse than others. But the oath was to the king.

[RUSS]

Quote: Setrac

Cossacks swore allegiance to the king, and were faithful to him. They did not swear allegiance to the Bolsheviks, White Guards, Mensheviks, essers, and other creatures.

Indisputable proof and fact.

[Hon]

Quote: Setrac

Cossacks swore allegiance to the king, and were faithful to him. They did not swear allegiance to the Bolsheviks, White Guards, Mensheviks, essers, and other creatures.

There were Cossacks in the ranks of both the White Guards and the Reds, and many were still there.
And many Cossacks were also traitors

[Setrac]

Quote: Hon

And many Cossacks were also traitors

Betrayal - violation of this promise or obligation, the Cossacks did not fight the king, everything else is your speculation. That was not betrayed by the Cossacks and that’s all, if you didn’t like it.

[Hon]

Quote: Setrac

Betrayal - violation of this promise or obligation, the Cossacks did not fight the king, everything else is your speculation. That was not betrayed by the Cossacks and that’s all, if you didn’t like it.

Then all the Nazi collaborators did not betray. The policemen didn’t betray anyone and that’s it, their bloody regime forced them, and they are good white and fluffy. They lied to them.

[Setrac]

Quote: Hon

Then all the Nazi collaborators did not betray. The policemen didn’t betray anyone and that’s it, their bloody regime forced them, and they are good white and fluffy. They lied to them.

In addition to the oath, there are other obligations that a citizen assumes. What difference does it make if you are shot as a traitor or as an enemy?
Only the war of the Cossacks on the side of the Wehrmacht can be considered a betrayal, and it must be borne in mind that at that time the Cossacks as an estate were already abolished.

[Hon]

Quote: Setrac

Only the war of the Cossacks on the side of the Wehrmacht can be considered a betrayal, and it must be borne in mind that at that time the Cossacks as an estate were already abolished.

But I’m not talking about anything else, Mazepa doesn’t count.

[Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.]

But it’s time for Vlasov’s Hero of Russia to give and place the remains of the Kremlin wall! Be careful with this concept of betrayal.

[delfinN]

In addition to a separate regiment, separate battalions and companies of Cossack troops can be formed to solve private tasks in limited areas that do not require large numbers of personnel.

[siberalt]

You can still on a dog harness in hard-to-reach areas. More Cossacks of all sorts and different! At least the light industry will raise the tailoring of pants with lapmas

[RUSS]

Quote: siberalt

At least the light industry will raise the tailoring of pants with lapmas

Judging by your profile picture, you are an Armenian, or rather an Armenian commerce, do you want to establish a business for sewing stripes? Forward!!!

[225chay]

Quote: RUSS

Judging by your profile picture, you are an Armenian, or rather an Armenian commerce, do you want to establish a business for sewing stripes? Forward!!!

Ha-ha!
Something really this Mkrtchan hates the Cossacks, apparently somewhere he tried to cheat, as they usually do, but the guys kicked his ass))))))))))))

[Bort radist]

Cossacks have shown themselves in wars. Reconnaissance, plastuners dashing, enthusiasm and military discipline. Not much that could not be destroyed to the ground. Yes, and Cossacks wow !!!

[LIQUIDATOR]

..... and, please tell me? What funds or money allowance, COSSACKS, exist .... uniforms, paraphernalia, edged weapons, whips, "crosses and orders", horses .... and so on ... ..

[Kazakh]

Quote: LIQUIDATOR

..and, please tell me?, on what funds or allowances, the COSSACKS exist .... uniforms, paraphernalia, edged weapons, whips, "crosses and orders", horses .... and so on .....

Why do you want to help you or to have an income?

[LIQUIDATOR]

.... join their ranks ......

[saygon66]

- Yes, mainly from personal funds ... donations also happen. Private security companies are being organized, or in the Kaliningrad region - farms!

[konvalval]

In any case, the form will be a good help in the fight against the external and internal enemy of Russia.

[mojohed2012]

The revival of the Cossacks seriously and at the legislative level will strengthen the country's general defense and make maidan impossible, and will also allow to restore order in the controlled territories without involving internal troops.
The future belongs to the Cossacks, as before the revolution they were centuries of Russian service.
Only such formations should have good training and have weapons in everyone’s hands.

[urganov]

Quote: mojohed2012

Only such formations should be well prepared and have weapons in everyone’s hands.

this may be easier:

Quote: mojohed2012

to have weapons in everyone’s hands.

in compliance with the legality of its (weapons) acquisition and use?
And no one forbade popular squads.

[Kazakh]

Quote: urganov

And no one forbade popular squads.

And come to the police and say that you’re a national warrior and then write off how it ended Pts interesting

[VNP1958PVN]

In the light of the requirements, the Cossack must have:
1. A saber type checker.
2. Automatic AK-74 (can AKSU).
3. Merina (can BMW) white, black or metallic gray suit!

[explorer]

A hundred (or at least fifty) Merins is cool.
But such an option is better.

[alex47russ]

Even if it is very good to sharpen a checker, it is still powerless against the machine! I am not against the Cossacks, they have their own lives. You can write books about them, make films! But I think it's better to develop counterintelligence and special forces !!!

[Kazakh]

Quote: alex47russ

Even if it is very good to sharpen a checker, it is still powerless against the machine! I am not against the Cossacks, they have their own lives. You can write books about them, make films! But I think it's better to develop counterintelligence and special forces !!!

Why patriotic education? At Zarnitsa you will not teach tactics and strategies. I believe that there is nothing better than the Strategic Missile Forces against missiles and counterintelligence and special forces are powerless

[Alecto]

I don’t understand at all what kind of class it is - "Cossack". This is despite the fact that all my adult life I live in the Don. If you are a man full of strength and health, then please ... The Russian Army, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Ministry of Emergencies are waiting for you. Why do we need another power extension, with incomprehensible rights and responsibilities. On the Don, to the newly-made mummers, this is exactly how they treat ... farcical lazy people with other people's tsatski on round dance costumes.

[Trofimov Andrey]

The Cossacks existed because the level of development of productive forces and relations, mainly agricultural, allowed them to work on the land and devote time to service. Even if the Cossacks were not actually abolished by the Soviet regime, and the Russian Empire continued to exist, the Cossacks would not have disappeared by the age of 30-40 for natural economic reasons (industrialization), but would have changed, losing the opportunity to perform military service, which actually happened, only at great cost.
And military-industrial settlements are generally a masterpiece, they are like military collective farms (who can remember such), the population of them will scatter in the first generation, in the second for sure.

[Anatolich]

Sorry, that is not the topic, it's a very funny photo.
In Ukraine, in the West, the action "Don't let the Russian" take place.

Quote: mirag2

Sorry, that is not the topic, it's a very funny photo.
In Ukraine, in the West, the action "Don't let the Russian" take place.

I would call this photo "God forbid dreaming" and the Cossacks will not help

[xbhxbr-777]

That's right, such parts need to be created and revived! Cossacks keep order, thanks to the Cossacks, Russia strengthened and strengthened its borders! Only those who do not love their homeland will be against it!

[Vadim Skeptic]

The question is - why the heck goat accordion. The listed tasks of the Cossack troops are performed by five different, already organized state services. And why should the new "troops" be called Cossacks? The Cossacks existed when the central government (tsar, emperor) could not fully ensure the protection of the state border. Therefore, the Cossacks lived on the border and armed themselves for their kost. Now, in Russia there are corresponding services for this. Conclusion - the need to create this kind of troops is out of hand. For all sorts of traditions I will not speak, for this there are all sorts of ensembles of Cossack songs, dances and checkers, even there are masters of the combat hopak.
And, here in the creation of a kind of National Guard, similar to the American sense is. At least in order to call on "partisans" for normal military retraining, with all the personal belongings: issuing a full-fledged uniform, issuing small arms, conducting the necessary exercises, etc.
The modern "Cossacks" distorts the whole essence and meaning of the original Cossacks.

[Kazakh]

The modern "Cossacks" distorts the whole essence and meaning of the original Cossacks.

Cossacks no one asked what they want. But authors such as this article themselves write themselves write and attribute to the Cossacks. And let’s discuss the rest. Well, and even the meaning of the original Cossacks and the Russian Russian poskonny are only especially gifted authors and they know to other normal people he is unknown

[Vadim Skeptic]

Cossack - a man living on the border and protecting the border. It provides itself with food from the allotment and raids on the adjacent territory. The title of Cossack is not inherited. If a person does not live this way, or is in the public service, then he is not a Cossack. Here is the whole primordial-pry sense of the Cossacks.

[Kazakh]

Here is the whole primordial-pry sense of the Cossacks.

And I would add that this is the essence of all serious truth

[avt]

Quote: Vadim the Skeptic

And, here in the creation of a kind of National Guard, similar to the American sense is. At least in order to call on "partisans" for normal military retraining, with all the personal belongings: issuing a full-fledged uniform, issuing small arms, conducting the necessary exercises, etc.

DASAAF, it is necessary and possible to reformat the DOSAAF into a structure for both pre-conscription training and maintaining the level of those who left for the reserve on a territorial basis with reference to specific units of active forces. Plus, to have a permanent reserve in case of replacement of permanent readiness units departed by order and real help of the explosives and the protection of strategic, civilian objects. But this reformatting is hard, day-to-day work. Why grumble then? I sewed stripes and a saddle between my legs to my jeans, and the newly minted "Cossack" galloped over the rope with a shout from Lyuba, bare Shashka, Masha. And most importantly, I should not explain anything to anyone and report to anyone - a free understand people, not a class, people, they will give a hundred points ahead after the second glass.

[serega.fedotov]

Quote: Kazakh

Well now starting. Cossacks are a relic of the past, all polite mummers and loafers Even something to comment is scary.

The fact that now the Cossacks are a very understandable formation is not their fault, but the government’s flaw.
Cossacks are the impoverishment of people with pro-government views, which are not for the sake of money and power. Previously, the Cossacks were distinguished by their initiative and cohesion, which was achieved by recruiting relatives and countrymen into one unit. Having organized such a formation now, you can get many advantages:
1 Eliminate hazing in these parts
2 Raise the prestige of military service
3 Increase the number of draftees
4 To oblige those serving in such units, regularly attend military fences, in case of an emergency, independently arrive at the military registration and enlistment offices or at the collection points of the Ministry of Emergencies

And this deprives a small part of the benefit to the state, with the right approach

[Turkish Granite]

How Cossacks differed from ordinary regular troops: in that they provided themselves with horses, equipment, ammunition, I can’t say for sure about the weapon, but in my opinion they also acquired it. The state began to spend money on them when it put it under arms. Until that moment, Cossack troops were in full self-sufficiency, and even plowed the land. In my opinion, the revival of the Cossack troops now is a very sound idea: if a person can and wants to pack himself in IBZ, SIZ, buy a state-of-the-art AK with a portable reserve, put it all in a safe at home until further notice, and in peacetime continue to do their own thing, why not. And if in his free time he’s still ready to patrol the streets on a voluntary basis, while respecting the law and the constitution ... And having received Ch +, such a comrade hangs the contents of the safe on himself and goes to the concentration point, where! he knows the unit in which he will stand up, knows the range of tasks that he will solve, and the unit has already undergone combat coordination at regular training camps. Here are just Cossack troops of constant combat readiness in my opinion - busting, this is the explosives, armed forces and the police.

[Old Cynic]

I remember that several years ago the representatives of the Cossacks addressed to "our top" with these proposals. The quintessence of their proposals was as follows: "Give us status, give us weapons, give us the Law - and Russia will forever forget about the hot spot named Caucasus."

So what? Who-thread scratched?

[nizrum]

The idea is not bad ...
We are talking about the sex of the state sex public union.
In history, there were such formations and were called the POLICE)) (not to be confused with the Soviet one) and performed the functions of protecting law and order, and sometimes military units, usually under "martial law".

We need ordinary combatants)) everything has been invented before us))
Yes, to organize them a little better and that's it ... form squads ... why reinvent the wheel?

[Bene valete]

Good deed, God forbid, that everything would turn out!
The traditional Russian military estate needs to be revived!
And the strife of the civil war, that to drag in ... the tsar renounced voluntarily, half of the clergy, nobility and officers took the side of the Bolsheviks, the fatherland was cracking at the seams ... in short, such a mess!
What now to drag in the affairs of bygone years past, it is necessary to draw conclusions and move on!

[pahom54]

Both the article and the idea are good. BUT!!! As always, there is a big but ... There are Cossacks in spirit and by vocation, but there are - Cossacks ... climbing into their ranks. So the problem is just the same as with communism-socialism: the idea was not bad, but completely perverted.
I think that if real atamans-fighters will be at the helm of the Circle, educated and educating in the spirit of the best Cossack traditions, conducting rigorous and high-quality selection in Cossack units, then this idea is positive from the point of view of putting order in the relevant territories.
And all those who try to cling to themselves - here it is necessary to strictly select them ... It’s not clear who to recruit ...
And now it would be nice to have such Cossack detachments in the Stavropol Territory, in the Krasnodar Territory and the Rostov Region, first of all, to solve very difficult problems of the national mentalities living in these territories ... I will not point your finger.

[Yarik]

domokl (2) Today, 15:38 PM ↑ New
Quote: Orc-78
. Now - this is an anachronism!
Well, not quite like that, in my opinion ... The Cossacks may well take on the functions of the police in the villages and cities. More precisely, the DND at the police. Then, it is an important task of educating young people, cultural development ..


Sholokhov in "Quiet Don" had a very good cultural development among the guys. It was just a sweet horror ...

[Old Cynic]

You would still remember Emelka Pugachev, one of the candidates for the "Name of Victory" competition. Or Stenka Razin from the same list.

[Kuvabatake]

I do not know. To begin with, you need professionals to deal with such issues. And they have to pay. They (the pros) should be involved in the selection of candidates and their preparation. In the meantime ... Often, the quickie stuck to the trough and off we go. He cuts the money, and the rest of the enthusiasts are going to the gatherings to shout "love" and drink vodka at the gatherings. And it is inappropriate to study saber fencing as a mandatory training. What a Cossack without a horse and checkers. I will keep silent about the kit with medals and badges ...

[Setrac]

Quote: Kuvabatake

I do not know. To begin with, professionals need to solve such issues.

Professionals are always in short supply, conscripts won the Second World War.

[AndreyS]

I don’t want to speak not for, not against this article, often when faced with Cossacks (different) I treat them with a “chill” (one might say), precisely because of the Cossacks seen more than once in unsightly forms, but almost literally I can retell my conversation with a resident the village of Kushchevskaya (the very village where the Tsapkov gang operated)
"... Terrible things were happening in the village! The people were terrified. The girls were seized in the streets, raped for several days, and then thrown out of the car somewhere! The park in the center of the village was a criminal place, every day someone was beaten and robbed. To the police it was useless to address them the same, they were intimidated, as they killed several without punishment and threatened to kill families.But now we have organized Cossacks! The regional administration pays them 25 thousand rubles for law enforcement, they are always sober, shaved in a neat beautiful Cossack uniform If something does not stand on ceremony, the one who breaks the order can easily whip off with a whip (those who wish over time have become very few.) Even the militiamen are afraid of them, because the Cossacks are incorruptible - they do not take money and immediately bring the shoals of militiamen to the leadership. it became calmer to live ... "To my objection that the gang was imprisoned, she said -" ... Yes, there were a lot of them, but this rabble is now quieter than water and below the grass ... "And the last comment" ... The truth is in the neighboring pages with ka Zakami, it's getting worse, drunks are solid! ... "That's it.

[Setrac]

Quote: AndreyS

it is because of the Cossacks seen more than once in unsightly forms

So what? every year on the day of Perun’s paratroopers I see in an unsightly form, then let's shorten the airborne forces? This does not mean anything. There are many more positive examples than negative ones.

Quote: AndreyS

But now we have organized the Cossacks!

On a voluntary basis! The reality is that now the Cossacks can not use force against violators under the threat of criminal prosecution, the law protects the criminal, and even using weapons is a direct road to prison.

[Alecto]

Here's your answer. In Crimea, they "fought" under the guise of "polite people", in Kushchevskaya they calmly watched as their daughters were being raped, they waited until the Cossacks would do their job for them. And then they "formed" too. And where were you before, when your medical school was turned into a brothel? Have your wives sat under skirts?

[Sochi]

I myself am a Cossack family, only the family of Zaporizhzhya Cossacks. I believe that the time of the Cossacks has sunk into oblivion ... What is happening now is a profanity dressed in tribute to traditions, and a misunderstanding of the realities. In reality, they have no power, they have no rights to carry out actions to protect the law on the territory of Russia, walking with police orders - paid witnesses who are always at hand. Yes, the descendants of those Cossacks are disappointed that their time has passed, and they are trying to do something, but for the most part it is a booth. It is impossible to revive the Cossacks as it was before, for a long time other times. I am not against the Cossacks, only it is inappropriately to replace the existing structures of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Armed Forces, and VV. Let them educate young people in the traditions of the Cossacks, prepare children for service in the army, let them help the Ministry of Internal Affairs in law enforcement. Let them take patronage over military units, help them as far as possible.

[Old Cynic]

What? Is this mummer also power? Here they are and will use this power to the full extent, as in Kushchevskaya! Already there were Cossacks - they simply fell into pieces, and all were so youthful, brave, fearless ... And how the bandits were opposed - there was simply a ready-made script for Mikhalkov. Ugh on them!

[Kazakh]

I myself am a Cossack family, only the family of Zaporizhzhya Cossacks.

It is impossible to revive the Cossacks as it was before, for a long time other times.

Let them educate young people

Yes, let someone do it and we will look and criticize

[Sochi]

It is not a matter of Cretanism, the fact is that POWER does not share power, and no matter how the Cossacks try, they will not be allowed to power and independence. If possible, power supports this booth and manages it, uses them. But in which case they will easily disown them.

[sw6513]

It’s not worth saying that the Cossacks as a class were destroyed in the civil war. I know these people, they had a meeting, quite adequate, sound thoughts and actions. If they were put in a gun, some structures were far from them, because there is PATRIOTISM

[Ross]

Quote: platitsyn70

normal men and work for them will always be found in the vastness of our homeland.

As they showed themselves in the Crimea, wonderful power. Only a naive would call her a relic. Hundreds of years of glorious traditions just don't go away. You just need to help them and properly place them in hot zones.

[BelPartizan]

Just a reminder. When in the old days there was danger from the Turks or even the tsarist army, the alert system for the Cossacks worked perfectly. A messenger was sent to every village and each family exhibited at least 3 already armed riding warriors. The village gave at least a hundred and 5-10 such villages a thousand. Weapons and uniforms were stored at home and therefore the army gathered very quickly. The skills of a warrior were instilled in children from childhood and now this custom is being revived. Cossacks have always been and will be in the future primarily a military estate. They are WARRIORS and above all in the SPIRIT! Spirit is always more important. But the fact that Kazakov is accused that they will not be able to master modern realities, I do not agree. They can! And how! It’s all better than modern urban nerds. Yes, and everyone served in the army, do not mow. Not nice

[saag]

But is it just something that prevents you from joining the army or power structures?

[demotivator]

Quote: Kazakh

Well now starting. Cossacks are a relic of the past, all polite and loafers. Even something scary to comment on.

If it’s scary, then of course you don’t need to comment. And then, inadvertently from fear, you can spoil even more slowly. And now, no jokes about the essence of the conversation. I'll start a little from afar. It is known that in two Chechen companies, in addition to the regular troops of the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB, both Chechen and Cossack irregular formations took an active part on the side of the federal forces. We even had the Chechen and Cossack special forces of the GRU, which successfully conducted several sabotage operations against gangs. One of these formations was the West battalion, which until recently had been commanded by a gentleman of two orders of Courage, Hero of Russia Said-Magomed Kakiev. After Lieutenant Colonel Kakiev entered the M.V. Frunze Military Academy, Beslan Elimkhanov took command of the battalion. the battalion "West", which until recently was commanded by a gentleman of two orders of Courage, Hero of Russia Said-Magomed Kakiev. Kakiev’s group actually acted as a partisan formation. In November, the task was set to form a military unit from them. For this purpose, weapons, ammunition, uniforms were obtained. The detachment was armed, changed clothes. The company commander was appointed an officer of a separate company SPN SKVO. The command allocated only seven days to combat coordination. Accordingly, a week later the detachment began to carry out a combat mission. The main task of the detachment was to conduct sabotage and reconnaissance in Grozny. The fact is that, for obvious reasons, not a single spetsnaz group could quietly penetrate the Chechen capital and conduct reconnaissance there. The new detachment, consisting of Chechens, had such an opportunity.
Now about the Cossacks. Closer to January, on the initiative of the ataman of the Grozny department of the Terek Cossack army Albastov, the question of forming a similar Cossack detachment was agreed with the command. But at the initial stage he acted separately from the Chechen one.
One of the first to arrive in the detachment was Pavel Andreevich Gerter. A great hunter, climber. He began his service in the first Chechen campaign with the rank of sergeant - then officers from the reserve were not called up. That is why, in order to get to the war, he decided to hide his officer rank in the military enlistment office. In the second campaign in the special forces, he again became a senior lieutenant, deputy group commander. Later, at the age of 46, he received the rank of captain and the post of commander of a special forces group.
With him came the Cossacks, who were part of his group. It was a common practice. Ataman from the village and a group of 9-12 people came to the detachment. They came from all over Russia and even from Belarus.
In general, I must say about the Cossacks that they were really special forces soldiers in their spirit. Many of them did not have a military education and any special knowledge, but they compensated for this shortcoming by the desire to comprehend the weapons entrusted to them as soon as possible and to master the tactics and complete the assigned task in any way. Their actions were often atypical and extraordinary, but very effective. The 305th Special Forces detachment, which included units of Cossacks and Chechens, lasted until May 2001. Then it was decided to dissolve the Cossacks, and to form commandant companies under the military commandant’s offices from Chechen units.
After the commandant’s office was decided to be transferred under the leadership of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the West and East battalions were formed.
The "West" battalion included Chechens who fought in the 305th detachment of the Special Forces of the 22nd Brigade.

[Alecto]

Quote: chudoudodelt

Cossacks are a relic of the past, all polite mummers and loafers

These are not just mummers idlers, it would be okay to just go to a "hobby group". But no, they want money. Another budget sawmaker from the series, we do not sow, do not mow, do not plow .. We walk as mumbled cocks and are proud of ourselves. And dig deeper - just failed peasants lick their wounded pride.

[Tersky]

Quote: Alekto

just failed peasants lick their wounded pride.

Alexandra, have you got a Cossack husband? Not.. ? Then where does that bile come from? I guess ... she’s such a dissatisfaction .. In the interest circles, I would still recommend to you, in your condition, just right, I heard that it calms ..

[Alecto]

Milaay, whoever takes me away will not live for 3 days :))) Well, what else will you try to get away with !! ?? When there are no arguments, all cowards and weaklings become personal. Do you call yourself "Tersky"? Cossack or what? Thank you, my dear, I confirmed everything I wrote about your pack. No mind, no strength, only unfulfilled ambitions. And I have a hobby group. Husband, daughter, son-in-law, two sons. Come, in my "circle" they will quickly explain to you what a man is and how he should behave.

[Bronik]

The TRP is already being returned; DOSAAF would not be in the way. Maybe then there will be more combat-ready young boys who will be mowed down from military service. It is very difficult to carry out orders, and sports camps, as well as some Cossack formations for youth of any social strata can teach this. This can be very great potential. Teacher commanders are needed.

[Setrac]

Quote: Alekto

We walk with mummers and proud of ourselves.

Did you mean "mumbled hens"?
Your bile is incomprehensible, did you register specifically so that the Cossacks would pour mud on them?

[Alecto]

I gouge the topic of the Cossacks always, wherever I see it. Because I can’t stand idlers who, under their laziness, unwillingness to work and live according to the laws of the established society, bring a kind of pseudo-patriotic basis. Cossacks, Taliban, "right sector", these are all links in one chain. These are people who have not found themselves in life, are not able to bring real benefit to society and justify their existence by the fact that they are that type ... not like everyone else. And here they are, real patriots, they are ... a stronghold. But this "stronghold" is nothing more than an ordinary watering gang, which armed itself will pursue its interests. Someone wrote there that they support the Cossacks. I can even imagine how :))) You can also see such "Cossacks" in parking lots. For a small material support of the Cossacks, they will not injure cars :))) Previously it was called simply and clearly - racketeering And now ... support for the Cossacks, or as in Ukraine "support for the revolution."

[Stinger]

The term "Cossack" is not defined. Therefore, the discussion is about nothing. When the Kuban Cossacks speak, it is intuitively clear who it is. But when the Cossack of Maryina Roshcha in the city of Moscow is, excuse me, some incomprehensible even to Stirlitz: Parkhat Bolshevik Cossacks? This is something new!

[Stanislas]

The idea of ​​​​creating a special social group of civilians who have the skills of hand-to-hand combat, patrolling, reconnaissance, owning different types of weapons and the right (which requires careful study) to store and bear arms, a group that has its own structure, hierarchy, focused on maintaining order in the territory of residence and ready, upon order, to join the ranks of military units, is interesting. You can even call this social group “Cossacks,” realizing that this is a historical symbol and far from a complete analogy. But a state program for the education, selection and training of members of this group is definitely needed, starting at least from school age. Here one cannot particularly rely on the “traditions” of the population living on lands that historically belonged to the Cossacks, the “living spirit of the Cossacks” in families where great-grandfathers were Cossacks, etc. There will be Ossetian, Karelian, Chuvash Cossacks... Let's get used to it.

[demotivator]

Quote: Alekto

These are not just mummers idlers, it would be okay to just go to a "hobby group". But no, they want money. Another budget sawmaker from the series, we do not sow, do not mow, do not plow .. We walk as mumbled cocks and are proud of ourselves. And dig deeper - just failed peasants lick their wounded pride.

Here's a little from our recent history about real, not mummered, Cossacks.
In 1996, the 694th separate motorized rifle battalion was formed from Terek and Kuban Cossacks, the unofficial name of the battalion named after. A.P. Ermolova. This battalion was the ONLY volunteer unit of the Russian army that participated in the fighting to liberate Chechnya from terrorists. A significant part of the personnel were Cossacks who went through the fighting in Transnistria, Abkhazia, Karabakh, and North Ossetia. During the fighting in Chechnya, the battalion fought near the village of Chervlenaya, Grozny, Achkhoy-Martan, Katyr-Yurt, Stary Achkhoy, Orekhovo, Shali, Vedeno, Benoy.
During the fighting, 27 Cossacks from the battalion died, 262 were wounded and shell-shocked.
98 Cossacks were awarded government awards (25 posthumously).
This unit was born so that, having completed the task, it would inevitably die. It did not fit into the framework of general military regulations and contradicted all traditional ideas of “indestructible and legendary.” The Cossack battalion named after General Ermolov was essentially an experimental unit. The Ermolovsky battalion was formed in January-February 1996 in the ancient Cossack village - the city of Prokhladny. Mostly the men were from the Stavropol region, although walkers appeared even from Yakutia. Some people have destinies - novels can be written. At first glance, many of the recruits had nothing to do with the war. In fact, forty percent of Yermolovites already had combat experience. They ran the war to fight in Transnistria, Karabakh, Ossetia and Ingushetia. The Ermolovsky battalion was formed in January-February 1996 in the ancient Cossack village - the city of Prokhladny. Mostly the men were from the Stavropol region, although walkers appeared even from Yakutia. Some people have destinies - novels can be written. A guy came from the Krasnodar Territory - without money, without things, with one toothbrush in his pocket - to avenge his murdered friend. The Ermolovsky battalion was very reminiscent of the previous, ancient formations of the Cossacks. When the cry rang out and the little people rose up to march. Not so much in the hope of plunder, but to feel the fighting spirit. Now the Cossacks were going to return the original Russian lands: the Naursky, Shelkovsky and Nadterechny districts, which Khrushchev gave to Checheno-Ingushetia in 1956. From a military point of view, it was a 17% mountain rifle unit. With a mortar battery, flamethrower units and AGS-27. Career officers made up the battalion's management and commanded companies, the lower ranks of commanders were staffed by Cossacks. I personally know many of the veterans of this famous unit in the Stavropol region. Tomorrow, March XNUMX, on the next anniversary of the internal troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, we, combat veterans, will gather together, raise a glass and remember those who did not return home from the Chechen wars, who laid down their lives for their friends and for Russia. The history of the battalion is over, and there are no shameful pages in it. It's just a pity that it's so short.
In the photo - ataman of the Mineralovodsk department of the TKV, one of the founders of the Cossack battalion named after. Ermolova, Oleg Gubenko.

[free]

Quote: Kazakh

Well now starting. Cossacks are a relic of the past, all polite mummers and loafers Even something to comment is scary.

you are wrong, of course there are mummers, and no one denies them, but as I already said, it is necessary to give the Cossacks the right to act, then it will immediately become clear who only works with their tongues, and who does the work.

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Quote: demotivator

Quote: Alekto

These are not just mummers idlers, it would be okay to just go to a "hobby group". But no, they want money. Another budget sawmaker from the series, we do not sow, do not mow, do not plow .. We walk as mumbled cocks and are proud of ourselves. And dig deeper - just failed peasants lick their wounded pride.

Here's a little from our recent history about real, not mummered, Cossacks.
In 1996, the 694th separate motorized rifle battalion was formed from Terek and Kuban Cossacks, the unofficial name of the battalion named after. A.P. Ermolova. This battalion was the ONLY volunteer unit of the Russian army that participated in the fighting to liberate Chechnya from terrorists. A significant part of the personnel were Cossacks who went through the fighting in Transnistria, Abkhazia, Karabakh, and North Ossetia. During the fighting in Chechnya, the battalion fought near the village of Chervlenaya, Grozny, Achkhoy-Martan, Katyr-Yurt, Stary Achkhoy, Orekhovo, Shali, Vedeno, Benoy.
During the fighting, 27 Cossacks from the battalion died, 262 were wounded and shell-shocked.
98 Cossacks were awarded government awards (25 posthumously).
This unit was born so that, having completed the task, it would inevitably die. It did not fit into the framework of general military regulations and contradicted all traditional ideas of “indestructible and legendary.” The Cossack battalion named after General Ermolov was essentially an experimental unit. The Ermolovsky battalion was formed in January-February 1996 in the ancient Cossack village - the city of Prokhladny. Mostly the men were from the Stavropol region, although walkers appeared even from Yakutia. Some people have destinies - novels can be written. At first glance, many of the recruits had nothing to do with the war. In fact, forty percent of Yermolovites already had combat experience. They ran the war to fight in Transnistria, Karabakh, Ossetia and Ingushetia. The Ermolovsky battalion was formed in January-February 1996 in the ancient Cossack village - the city of Prokhladny. Mostly the men were from the Stavropol region, although walkers appeared even from Yakutia. Some people have destinies - novels can be written. A guy came from the Krasnodar Territory - without money, without things, with one toothbrush in his pocket - to avenge his murdered friend. The Ermolovsky battalion was very reminiscent of the previous, ancient formations of the Cossacks. When the cry rang out and the little people rose up to march. Not so much in the hope of plunder, but to feel the fighting spirit. Now the Cossacks were going to return the original Russian lands: the Naursky, Shelkovsky and Nadterechny districts, which Khrushchev gave to Checheno-Ingushetia in 1956. From a military point of view, it was a 17% mountain rifle unit. With a mortar battery, flamethrower units and AGS-27. Career officers made up the battalion's management and commanded companies, the lower ranks of commanders were staffed by Cossacks. I personally know many of the veterans of this famous unit in the Stavropol region. Tomorrow, March XNUMX, on the next anniversary of the internal troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, we, combat veterans, will gather together, raise a glass and remember those who did not return home from the Chechen wars, who laid down their lives for their friends and for Russia. The history of the battalion is over, and there are no shameful pages in it. It's just a pity that it's so short.
In the photo - ataman of the Mineralovodsk department of the TKV, one of the founders of the Cossack battalion named after. Ermolova, Oleg Gubenko.

The mummers are asking for money, but the real ones are asking for the right to act, GIVE THE RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm a Cossack!

[LIQUIDATOR]

.... dear “forum members” .... at least someone can tell how today’s Cossacks are created ..... what?.... is taken as a basis .... faith, nostalgia, labor, class, ancestors and so on.....where are all the chests covered in crosses and orders from......who knows, tell me.....interesting!!!.....what are their responsibilities, where do they work?... ...just don’t slander, please.......

[saygon66]

-I’ll try to tell you based on my own experience: In the late 90s, in the city of Gvardeysk (Kaliningrad region) there was a Cossack organization (unfortunately, in the past tense). Its basis was made up of descendants of Cossack clans who did not want to forget about their origin. These were reserve servicemen (and active duty ones as well) - hence the “crosses” and their families. The goal was to instill in young people a sense of duty to the Fatherland and instill the values ​​of Orthodoxy. I’ll say right away that Cossack ranks strictly corresponded to those received during service in the Armed Forces. A hand-to-hand combat section, a Cossack song choir, and a home economics club (for girls) were organized and conducted. From time to time, Cossacks and older youth were involved in the assistance of the police (protection of festive events, both church and civil). The Cossack community was not a “private club” - everyone who shared our views could take part in the work. The reason why the active activities of the community were stopped is simple - lack of funding. As you understand, it is quite difficult to pay for the rent of premises and sewing uniforms from the modest salaries of military personnel. And although the movement was supported by military commanders. stationed in the city and the city administration, the community was forced to curtail its work. I don't think anyone benefited from this....

[saygon66]

- It would be naive to expect a different reaction to the article... But, I would like to remind the opponents of the Cossacks: your ridicule is in vain! Since 17, the Cossacks have been cut down to the roots, and look, they are still alive! Cossacks were attracted after the terrorist attack in Volgograd to events related to the Olympics - this suggests that cooperation between the State and the Cossacks, although with great difficulty, is being established. You can give many negative examples, but one cannot be denied - the Cossacks want and are ready to serve Russia! The reluctance of the descendants of the Cossacks to forget their roots can only irritate “persons of Schengen nationality”!

[demotivator]

Quote: LIQUIDATOR

..can anyone tell me how today's Cossacks are created?

Very difficult to create. Lots of problems. There is a certain split in the Cossacks between those who are registered and those who are not included in the register, the so-called public Cossacks. There is a problem of leaders, financing, relationships with authorities and others.
In the regions, approaches to the Cossacks are different. Cossacks have the most developed sense of patriotism. In addition, the Cossacks are capable of self-organization - this quality, by the way, has always frightened any government. The fact that the Cossacks were revived at the end of the twentieth century is the need of the time. Today, the Cossacks can become a real counterbalance to the attempts of some of our neighbors to organize oppression and persecution of representatives of the Russian people. For example, in the Caucasus or Crimea.
In the Krasnodar Territory, Cossacks began to be recruited into the patrol service and began to pay 25 thousand rubles a month for this. Governor Tkachev said that the migration policy there has been neglected, and the police cannot cope with the fact that newcomers are settling in the region illegally and are behaving unbridledly. Therefore, they began to attract the Cossacks and created a Cossack regiment of 1 people.
To become a Cossack in Voronezh, you need to contact the leadership, farm or village, and write a petition to join the ranks of the Cossacks. Then you need to go through a probationary period - carry out certain tasks and prove yourself accordingly. A person who has shown himself well will be accepted into the Cossacks at the Cossack circle. Cossacks take the oath in the temple - on the Gospel, cross and weapon.

[demotivator]

Almost a thousand Terek Cossacks came to the Ossetian city of Beslan on March 95, 22 for the 2014th anniversary of the commemoration of the innocently killed Terek Cossacks. Over the past five years, so many people have never gathered on this field, strewn with the bones of the dead Terek Cossacks - children, women, old people and men. There were especially many young people. Prokhladny, Naurskaya, Stavropol, Pyatigorsk, Vladikavkaz, Georgievsk - these are just a few cities that brought their children, young Cossacks to the mound of memory, so that they learned the history of their long-suffering people, so that they touched the land where their ancestors died. For several years now, at the end of March, the Day of Remembrance of the Terek Cossacks, innocently killed during the years of repression, has been celebrated. At the end of March - beginning of April 1920, several thousand old people, women and children became victims of persecution aimed at the Terek Cossacks. The villages located along the Sunzha River from Tarskaya to Grozny suffered the most. In memory of those killed by the Terek Cossacks in the 1990s, a mound was built and a worship cross was erected.

[Ross]

Quote: saag

But is it just something that prevents you from joining the army or power structures?

It doesn't interfere, they serve. They have a tradition of serving, even in peacetime. They do not replace the army, but complement it.

[stroporez]

that's all nishtyakova............but where is the law on the Cossacks????

[Yuri Zhukov]

You, Mr. Sivkov K., are certainly smart, but we are not all fools. And not all Ivans do not remember kinship.
And many of us know history quite well. Although you have distorted our story. Transformed the ancient original
people into the "military class". The point of your speech is as follows. Russian 100 million people themselves
cannot protect - he drinks and dies out. If you are a Jew, you are an oligarch, a banker, a showman, you have millions in
Western banks, villas, yachts. If you are a Cossack, plow the land and be free cannon fodder. When we
(Cossacks) are needed, then they take us out of the chests of history. The need has disappeared and we are being destroyed. Eg
Bug Cossack army. The border ran along the Bug and it was necessary to protect it. A small part of the unfinished
The Black Sea people were evicted to the Bug, they were given soldiers and peasants, and they were called the “Bug Cossack Army.”
For forty years people served regularly. But the borders have moved and there is no longer a need for them, they decided
disband. But people were against it and rebelled in 1817. As usual they suppressed with a lot of blood
and some become soldiers and some become peasants. But the bloodiest genocide unprecedented in human history
The Donets experienced it twice - under Peter the Great and under Stalin and Lenin. You call Krasnov P.N.
“a fascist henchman,” but he only wanted to save the Cossacks from genocide. You shed tears at every step
on the Holocaust, you sympathize with the Armenians, you are outraged by what they did to the Indians in America, and what you yourself
Don and Kuban were drenched in blood, somehow forgotten. Our Doroshovsky farm has 90 yards, before the revolution there were 17
Cossack estates. At the population census, my wife listed only 13 Cossacks of both sexes with children.
The rest all signed up as Russians. In the Rostov region with a population of 5 million, Cossacks were counted
27 thousand. But there are probably no purebred Cossacks now. The Cossacks lived in farmsteads and villages. They had
azure steppe, clean rivers and a lot of things you won’t understand. And they served for 3 years like everyone else.
Now there are landfills, waste heaps, and garbage bins all around. We are offered to live in closed communities among the population
which hates us and if something happens they will shut us down when we are not needed. And carry out police functions
free - for land, loans, etc. Agriculture has been made deliberately unprofitable, no matter how you
fight, no matter how hard you try, “you’ll go down the drain.” I’m watching Andrei Karaulov’s program, the point is as follows.
One guy dissolved 24 billion (I don’t remember what) in the air and disappeared, another 40 billion, the third 70
billion, etc. No one was caught or convicted. Trillions of dollars were pumped into the US and Swiss banks,
but they save on the military, pensioners, and workers. We've already been through this foolishness. In the 90s when
There was euphoria, Cossack societies grew like mushrooms. We were told (the Cossacks) that money came from South Africa
supposedly the emigrant Cossacks kept the treasury. We all wrote business plans and wanted to do business.
In the end, no one and nothing. Yeltsin’s words were leaked to the press: “Promise everything and give nothing.”
And so it was. I have a counter-offer for you, Mr. Sivkov K. Revive the Streltsy
settlements in the center of Russia. Corrupt officials will supply them, in exchange for bribes, with outdated equipment.
They (the archers) will drink and hit each other. They will establish hazing like in the army. Chiefs
they will sell equipment to entrepreneurs, ordinary people will steal spare parts and diesel fuel. We are here
moreover. We are not there (Cossacks), you have been exterminating us for 100 years. Once physically, now mentally,
ideologically. The Cossack idea was further discredited. Those who wanted to be reborn turned away.
At first they talked about brotherhood, equality, but they divided us into castes - nobility, high nobility,
Excellencies and, who are also not fools, came, looked and left. Cossack officers received
ranks in military schools and served in the army for twenty-five years.