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Victor Murakhovsky: "During the events in Crimea, the world saw a new quality of the Russian army"

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Victor Murakhovsky: "During the events in Crimea, the world saw a new quality of the Russian army"About the events of recent weeks, about how the Russian army has changed, we are talking with one of the leading domestic military experts, the chief editor of the information and analytical magazine Arsenal of the Fatherland, Viktor Murakhovsky.


- Viktor Ivanovich, how do you assess the actions of the Russian army in the light of recent events? Do you agree that at present the domestic armed forces are at a much higher quality level than even a year and a half ago?

- I evaluate the actions of the Russian army during the recent events as professionally organized and qualitatively implemented. Without a single shot and the victims completed all the tasks. Moreover, in some cases, only the self-control and professionalism of our servicemen prevented a sharp exacerbation of the situation.

Even in the external "picture" broadcast by the media in the course of recent events, the naked eye can see positive changes in the appearance of the Russian army compared to what the country and the world saw just two or three years ago.

If we talk about the operational-tactical component, then experts note the implementation in practice of some advanced concepts of the network-centric warfare, which until then had been considered the prerogative of only the American army.

- That is, it can be said that those events which we witnessed will be studied in military schools not only in Russia?

- Definitely. Both our allies and our western "partners" (as President Putin calls them) will study the military component of past events very carefully. And for us, this is the first experience of the practical implementation of those techniques and actions that were practiced in the course of classes, exercises, surprise checks of the combat readiness of the troops over the past year and a half.

- Viktor Ivanovich, one of the main heroes of the Crimean events were our Tiger armored vehicles, but the previous leadership did not want to acquire them. The bet was made on "Lynx". If there were Italian armored cars there, then we would now hear that the supply of spare parts for imported equipment was stopped. The same goes for the Centaurs and other cars. That is, Shoigu’s and Rogozin’s bid for domestic cars fully justified themselves.

- After the change in the leadership of the Ministry of Defense, the policy on import of weapons and military equipment returned to the mainstream of reality. At the beginning of December 2012, the Expert Council of the Chairman of the Military Industrial Complex under the Government of the Russian Federation, Deputy Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation D.O. Rogozin was presented a report "Russia as an importer of armaments: challenges and opportunities" (see here sovetvpk.ru/files/1.pdf), in the preparation of which I took part. One of the key findings of the report was: “The import of weapons for the needs of the RF Armed Forces is fraught with significant risks both for the defense of the country and for the functioning of the military-industrial complex. This issue is so important that the current practice of making departmental, often voluntarist, decisions on the import of weapons and military equipment completely outlived. " The leadership of the defense industrial complex and the Defense Ministry generally agreed with the conclusions and proposals formulated in the report, which led to a number of practical decisions on the normalization of imports of weapons and military equipment and the development of domestic production.

- And how do you think the situation with the Mistral UDC will evolve?

- I think that the contract for the supply of two ships by the French side will be completed on time. Probably, the Russian side will refuse the option for two more ships.

- Viktor Ivanovich, judging by what we saw earlier, the proposed concept of light and medium compounds has fully justified itself. Given that the Russian troops in the Crimea did not have a single tank.

- The concept of light, medium, heavy compounds equipped with an appropriate set of military equipment was originally based on military-scientific studies of domestic specialists. The physical and geographical conditions of the region and the operational and tactical features of the measures did not require the use of heavy weapons and military equipment. Units operated on light and medium armored vehicles, military vehicles, with the support of the army aviation. High mobility has largely ensured the successful completion of tasks.

- Viktor Ivanovich, it is probably worth noting that in the near future rearmament of the Russian army will take place, and its capabilities will increase even more?

- The peculiarity of the current State Armaments Program for the period up to 2020 is that the mass re-equipment of the ground component of the general-purpose forces (Ground Forces, Airborne Forces, Marines and Coastal Forces of the Navy) is planned for the period after 2015.

By this time, uniform standardized platforms of a new generation of light, medium and heavy categories, artillery complexes, sets of individual combat equipment, means of automated command and control, etc. should be developed, tested and ready for mass production.

In the interests of mass production of new-generation weapons and military equipment, a large-scale technological modernization of the corresponding defense enterprises is under way. According to the plans, by the end of 2020, modern models of weapons and military equipment should be in the category of armored combat vehicles - 82%, artillery systems - 79%, missile systems of the Ground Forces - 100%, multipurpose vehicles - 72%.
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  1. Andrew 447
    Andrew 447 25 March 2014 15: 57
    +41
    Worked excellently in Crimea !!!
    1. Duke
      Duke 25 March 2014 16: 06
      +67
      The polite troops of Putin.
      1. s1н7т
        s1н7т 25 March 2014 16: 18
        +15
        Judging by the weapons - intelligence, no? And in what parts of the armed forces does this rifle regularly exist - Vintorez, it seems?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 25 March 2014 16: 25
          +11
          Quote: c1n7
          Judging by the weapons - intelligence, no?

          Airborne likely there are such toys.
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 25 March 2014 16: 31
            +16
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Airborne likely there are such toys.

            Sanya, he (this is the VSS “Vintorez” complex) is practically present in all military branches where there are intelligence units. Initially (in 1987) it was adopted by the special forces of the KGB and reconnaissance and sabotage units ..
            1. w.ebdo.g
              w.ebdo.g 25 March 2014 18: 27
              +3
              You are absolutely right...
            2. s1н7т
              s1н7т 27 March 2014 17: 25
              0
              Quote: Tersky
              Initially (in 1987) it was adopted by the special forces of the KGB and reconnaissance and sabotage units

              In 87-91 they were not in separate companies. This is in the GSVG. As far as I understand, you meant special forces by intelligence and sabotage units? The division also had the status of a "unit", by the way)
          2. tyumen901
            tyumen901 25 March 2014 17: 00
            +27
            This is a provocation, the guys in Voentorg stocked up)))))))
            1. WKS
              WKS 25 March 2014 17: 28
              +11
              Correctly. And screw cutter plastic copy.
          3. nnz226
            nnz226 26 March 2014 13: 34
            0
            Or GRU special forces ...
            1. s1н7т
              s1н7т 27 March 2014 17: 26
              0
              Quote: nnz226
              Or GRU special forces ...

              Well, this is intelligence)
          4. s1н7т
            s1н7т 27 March 2014 17: 22
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Airborne likely there are such toys

            Why I was puzzled - in the picture AKMS (it is not clear which one, but AKMS) and Vintorez - both are "sharpened" for silent shooting. What for so? Logically, where there is an AKMS "Vintorez" is not needed, and vice versa. AKMS is a senior intelligence officer, and who has Vintorez? The sniper was replaced? Because I asked about the state.
        2. stillrat
          stillrat 25 March 2014 17: 50
          +4
          There are scouts.
        3. StolzSS
          StolzSS 25 March 2014 18: 00
          +7
          There is a detachment of at least 2 screw cutters or Val with you in the head guard, a very good thing for sudden fire contact in the forest and on very rough terrain ...
        4. Diesel66
          Diesel66 25 March 2014 18: 00
          +5
          Quote: c1n7
          Vintorez, it seems?

          This is AC Val. I'm sorry, it's still a "screw cutter"
        5. I read the news
          I read the news 25 March 2014 18: 21
          +2
          according to the current legislation of Ukraine (namely lack of weapons law) private individuals may legally acquire and register up to the automatic granotometra. Since there are no legislative restrictions.
          1. wot
            wot 26 March 2014 00: 03
            0
            yes is not so important
        6. kot11180
          kot11180 25 March 2014 19: 59
          +1
          The GRU special forces apparently also were in the Crimea for sure.
        7. Duke
          Duke 26 March 2014 00: 40
          +2
          Special 9-mm sniper rifle (BCC, developed on the subject of "Vintorez", this name is still in use, GRAU Index - 6P29) - a silent sniper rifle.
          Years of operation: 1987 - present
          Used:
          Special Forces Airborne Forces, FSB, GRU and Ministry of Internal Affairs
          Constructor: P.I. Serdyukov
          Designed: 1987 year
          Manufacturer: Central Research Institute of Tochmash
          Tula arms factory
          Characteristics
          Weight, kg: 2,6 (without magazine and sight)
          3,41 (charged and with a PSO-1 sight)
          Length, mm: 894
          Barrel length, mm: 200
          Cartridge: 9 × 39 mm (SP-5, SP-6)
          Caliber, mm: 9х39
          Principles of operation: removal of powder gases, butterfly valve
          Rate of fire
          rounds / min:
          40-100
          Muzzle velocity, m / s: 280-295
          Sighting range, m: up to 100 in the head target, up to 200 in the thoracic, up to 350 in the growth.
          Maximum
          range, m: 400 (effective)
          Type of ammunition: box magazine on 10 or 20 cartridges
          Sight: sector, it is possible to install optical (originally supplied with 1P43 and PSO-1-1) or night (1PN75 or 1PN51)
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      3. romanru4
        romanru4 25 March 2014 16: 33
        +46
        These are just peaceful demonstrators. In democracies, it is not customary to discuss what protesters are wearing and what they are holding. Peaceful demonstrators politely asked to leave all the Ukrainian military (who wished) from the territory of Crimea. As a result of peaceful protests, this is what happened.
        1. Asketxnumx
          Asketxnumx 25 March 2014 18: 16
          +2
          OK!!! Just peaceful demonstrators. And what they demonstrate, let them figure it out.
      4. avg
        avg 25 March 2014 17: 00
        +5
        Quote: Duke
        The polite troops of Putin.

        Inspired by the example shown by the polite troops and administrators of /topwar.ru/, I solemnly promise to reduce my "spoken Russian" to the lowest possible.
      5. Coffee_time
        Coffee_time 25 March 2014 17: 22
        +1
        Wow, one vss
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      7. tommytros
        tommytros 25 March 2014 17: 27
        +1
        This is a special sniper rifle (VSS), popularly "vintorez"
        Fighters of the GRU GSH.
      8. moremansf
        moremansf 25 March 2014 17: 47
        +1
        ARMOR STRAP AND GUYS OUR FAST ....
      9. Altona
        Altona 25 March 2014 20: 30
        +1
        Spetsnaz in its purest form ... There is definitely nothing for the Ukrainian army to catch, only hide in the cockpits or go out to surrender with the banners deployed ... soldier drinks
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      11. siberalt
        siberalt 25 March 2014 21: 05
        +2
        These are the military, but not Putin's troops. Nobody has proved the opposite, except that they speak Russian. In Crimea, everyone says so. In the last program "The meaning of the game" Kurginyan talks about this. Who is not too lazy to look.
      12. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 25 March 2014 21: 25
        0
        And they are also very smiling.
      13. Sakhalin.
        Sakhalin. 26 March 2014 02: 24
        0
        I can’t say for sure, but in the Airborne Forces I know by hearsay everything that I saw. ORR Airborne Forces.
      14. Gluxar_
        Gluxar_ 26 March 2014 20: 12
        0
        Do not say that. This is the self-defense forces of Crimea. Russian troops at this time were engaged in exercises.
    2. vo.dum
      vo.dum 25 March 2014 16: 21
      +11
      Yes ... bravo ... if only we didn’t stay too long ... the army should continue to work together with the special services ... Kiev is in occupation ...
    3. platitsyn70
      platitsyn70 25 March 2014 16: 25
      +28
      they worked not only professionally but also without information leaks, which stunned Western special services.
      1. vedmeddd
        vedmeddd 25 March 2014 16: 45
        +19
        Back to glorious traditions! In the tsarist army it was very difficult, almost impossible to find a traitor, let alone "buy" an officer!
        1. Lvovich
          Lvovich 25 March 2014 20: 09
          +3
          No officers, but officials easily .....
    4. urzul
      urzul 25 March 2014 16: 30
      +51
      Say what you don’t say, but our "correct" impression was made even at the UVS.
      Excerpt from Facebook officer of the Ukrainian Navy, who served in the Center for Electronic Intelligence.
      1. urzul
        urzul 25 March 2014 16: 42
        +16
        Ukraine does not cease to amuse.

        Member of the Verkhovna Rada Gritsenko:
        Invisible heroes - they did not wait for orders from Kiev!
        Few people know this story. About real and devoted Ukrainian soldiers.
        25-I separate Dnepropetrovsk airborne brigade. A company of paratroopers of this brigade, numbering 80 people, was at planned exercises in the Crimea. Together with the battalion of marines in Perevalnoye. Even before the start of Russian aggression.
        From the beginning of the war, they stood steadfastly and awaited orders. Did not wait. And then they made their own decision: to break through to the mainland, along with armored vehicles and weapons! The Russians were warned: if they fix obstacles for them, the Dnepropetrovsk paratroopers will join the battle and fight to the last bullet, they will die the death of the brave, but they will not surrender and they will not surrender their weapons to the enemy!
        Result? The company of our paratroopers, in full force, in KAMAZ and armored vehicles, with full-time weapons, has already left the Crimea. Across the peninsula, paratroopers escorted and guaranteed the safety of their access to the mainland ... Russian special forces. The enemy soldiers of our paratroopers heard and decided that it was better not to check their strength of spirit!
        You guys are great! The country should be proud of such soldiers!

        This is just about those that the Ukrainians themselves were not allowed into their homeland, blocking the block of posts.
        1. fzr1000
          fzr1000 25 March 2014 17: 24
          +5
          Gloves only at the polite machine gunner on the "Tiger" "wrong".
          1. Manul
            Manul 25 March 2014 18: 46
            0
            Quote: fzr1000
            Gloves only at the polite machine gunner on the "Tiger" "wrong".

            At the worst, construction gloves are black. Otherwise, it is pale - they will draw at a time. I myself have 2 pairs of black ones in stock (not quite a shooter - more role-playing game), just in case. Interesting ... Are there regular good gloves in "Ratnik"?
            1. GRANATE-19
              GRANATE-19 25 March 2014 22: 27
              0
              Quote: Manul
              Quote: fzr1000
              Gloves only at the polite machine gunner on the "Tiger" "wrong".

              At the worst, construction gloves are black. Otherwise, it is pale - they will draw at a time. I myself have 2 pairs of black ones in stock (not quite a shooter - more role-playing game), just in case. Interesting ... Are there regular good gloves in "Ratnik"?

              But I remember when the second time I joined the army in September 1999 (well, you get it, where), then many of us had the same things. There, the main thing is to keep your hands, any cut, infection, and you have a half working arm and gloves will be made of bandages. By the way - this is nothing, that with city assaults, white bandages on the hands are knitted (which means OWN). It's nice, so many years have passed, and everything is the same (nastalgia is direct)! With respect, I express my humble opinion.
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        2. nnz226
          nnz226 26 March 2014 13: 40
          +2
          For stupid Grytsenoks: in fact, no one was going to fight with the Ukrainian military! They were all immediately offered 3 options:
          1) Go to the side of Crimea
          2) Write reports and demobilize
          3) Depart to Ukraine.
          And what does "heroism" have to do with the glorified Svidomo gritsenkoy ??? the guys chose the 3rd option, and as in ancient times they wished them: "The way from the Crimea to you guys is clean!" "Flag in hand, a drum on the neck, a whistle in the teeth, a bulldog puppy and new sneakers!"
      2. strannik595
        strannik595 25 March 2014 16: 43
        +51
        ......There is a suspicion that our soldiers will return home married ...
        1. lukke
          lukke 25 March 2014 16: 51
          +16
          There is a suspicion that our soldiers return home married ....
          No one has yet canceled the surcharge for the second child)
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        3. tank64rus
          tank64rus 25 March 2014 18: 18
          +9
          They are so at home.
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        5. zuleb
          zuleb 25 March 2014 18: 22
          +4
          women love lucky and successful
          1. GRANATE-19
            GRANATE-19 25 March 2014 22: 31
            +2
            Quote: zuleb
            women love lucky and successful

            JUST and HONEST, with a BIG, GREAT HEART !!! (however this is all on the screen) Sincerely, I express my humble opinion.
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      3. major071
        major071 25 March 2014 16: 44
        +32
        Just a normal army with normal and polite people
      4. DS14
        DS14 25 March 2014 17: 12
        +24
        Here is how Ukrainians themselves describe the confrontation on the Arabat Spit:

        At first, our compatriots say, no movements took place here. At the checkpoint there were four border guards and seven people from Energodar. But already on Saturday morning, March 15, six Russian helicopters appeared in the sky above them. They circled, ours say, just above their heads. And near the gas distribution station, the landing of Russian paratroopers began.

        “Then they gave us arms. Although everyone was counting on the fact that armed confrontation still did not happen. Our mission was initially peacekeeping. But the situation was changing so quickly that we, as Afghans with experience, simply had to come to the rescue of our soldiers. We are forced to admit: ours had very low combat readiness. When it became known that Russian armored personnel carriers were coming from the Crimea, they began to establish a firing point - a machine gun. The ensign boys did not even know how to put down this machine gun, how to change stores. We decided to help them. Border guards would have had enough cartridges for literally ten minutes of a real battle, ”- Vladimir Shavyrin and Sergey Volkov saw this picture of what was happening.

        A little later, as they say, Ukrainian paratroopers appeared. Energodar gave them food, fuel, bought with the money raised. They shared fuel with the deputy commander of the border detachment. On what to do, the commanders consulted by phone with Kiev. “And this is completely incomprehensible to us! The border guard is a special caste of troops that must make decisions locally, guided by the situation. And they are forced to coordinate each movement. And instead of staying at the checkpoint, holding a position, showing that there is an army in Ukraine, sending parliamentarians to the Russians, talking, they received an order to urgently withdraw. Both frontier guards and paratroopers curled before our eyes. We, as a buffer zone, were left alone in front of the Russian soldiers. Seven people. Without weapons, ”stated Vladimir Shavyrin.

        The Russians, however, occupied the gas economy, then approached the checkpoint. No one has attempted to storm it, our compatriots say. And, in fact, there was especially no one to storm. By that time there were only Energodars who were lined up on the barrier.

        “The Russians asked:“ Will you shoot? ” - We answered them: “But there is nothing. Unless with fountain pens ... ". Negotiations have begun. It was evident that on the other side there were very trained, experienced guys who had gone through real combat operations. Great weapons, clear coherence. Snipers act instantly. Each of our movements was under constant scrutiny. Unfortunately, we are hopelessly behind the Russian army both in terms of weapons and combat training. Ukraine has long abandoned its army. So we must not allow military action. In this regard, Kiev took the right deterrent position. Now is the time to speak to diplomats. A lean world is always better than war, ”said Sergey Volkov and Vladimir Shavyrin.

        Initially, the energy people planned to stay at the checkpoint for a week. But the movement of Russian and Ukrainian troops changed the situation ...

        During these two days, they say, the district prosecutor, the police chief, and the local priest came to the checkpoint. There were no conflicts, both Russians and Ukrainians behaved with restraint and even politely, realizing that any careless shot could provoke a war. Later, the deputy commander of the Ukrainian border detachment returned behind the Ukrainian flag. Came without a weapon. The Russians did not oppose, they gave the flag without talking. And they themselves offered the Ukrainian border guards to return to the checkpoint. They did not hide - they are only interested in the gas installation. The main thing, according to them, is that there should not be provocations.

        http://rost-info.com.ua/news/id6089/
        1. zennon
          zennon 25 March 2014 20: 04
          +4
          You know, I’m very happy about everything! Everything is great. Putin grew an order of magnitude in my eyes. He calculated everything, provoked Khokhlomaidan on time and masterfully. And when everyone was there with the geyropa in shit, he, white and puffy, stood quietly aside and peacefully I ate a donut! I’m, like, not in courses and out of business at all ... Krasava! I haven’t been so glad for a long time. But despite this, the phrase in the preceding post about the Ukrainian. The army even saddened me:
          Ukraine has long abandoned its army.

          Well, I can’t calmly read this!
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      5. Asketxnumx
        Asketxnumx 25 March 2014 18: 29
        +2
        I sympathize with you, but wipers with only one top work for me. I recommend contacting the Crimean administration. Today there is no one to sweep the streets in Bakhchisarai.
    5. Alekseev
      Alekseev 25 March 2014 17: 04
      +18
      Quote: Andrey 447
      Worked excellently in Crimea !!!

      That's right!
      But ... You should not think that the enemy will always behave like the Ukrainian military in the Crimea.
      This is a limited spetsnaz operation, and by no means a battered battle, the scale of at least the army, in the enemy army.
      In no case should you succumb to the "hap-hack". Work in the army and navy is not yet in a crank.
    6. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 25 March 2014 17: 13
      +2
      And where was the military aircraft?
    7. RUS96
      RUS96 25 March 2014 17: 50
      +8
      .............
      1. WKS
        WKS 25 March 2014 17: 59
        +7
        Maydanuty must not be forgotten. To all centurions and especially distinguished Yaytsenyuk, Klitschko and Tyagniboku. And posthumously to Sasha Biloma.
        1. nnz226
          nnz226 26 March 2014 13: 44
          +2
          Maydaunam this medal EVERYTHING SHOULD BE GIVEN DEADLY !!!
  2. operator35
    operator35 25 March 2014 15: 57
    +6
    Th finger on the descent does, no culture of handling weapons, but he knows how to comment beautifully. even though the pictures would not be laid out
    1. Alexey Prikazchikov
      Alexey Prikazchikov 25 March 2014 16: 14
      +7
      There is no finger on the descent.
      1. operator35
        operator35 25 March 2014 16: 17
        0
        I'm talking about the photo at the beginning of the article if that ...
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    3. s1н7т
      s1н7т 25 March 2014 16: 20
      +2
      Apparently, there is not enough skill in handling combat weapons - more and more friends with "Klava" laughing
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    6. lukke
      lukke 25 March 2014 16: 49
      +7
      Uncle thinks and works with his head. AK on the fuse, I probably took it from the stand for a photo. Well, he is not a fan of Delta and other fun with airsoft ...
      1. Polevik
        Polevik 25 March 2014 17: 33
        +3
        Most likely from the stand. He has belts of different colors behind him. Assortment so to speak.
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  3. Arh
    Arh 25 March 2014 15: 58
    +7
    Hurray Russia! ! ! Strategic Development! ! ! Well done boys ! ! !
  4. Vyacheslav 64
    Vyacheslav 64 25 March 2014 15: 59
    +59
    Traditions of ancestors are true !!!
    1. Arkan
      Arkan 25 March 2014 16: 31
      +4
      Well done Yesaul, caressed in the ear !!!!
    2. WKS
      WKS 25 March 2014 17: 42
      +3
      Polite Yesaul.
    3. thimble
      thimble 25 March 2014 17: 58
      +3
      They are Cossacks. Everyone there does not understand karate and ji-jitsu.
    4. Riperbahn
      Riperbahn 26 March 2014 00: 39
      0
      Trending. This is from some book about fellow travelers.
      1. Corsair0304
        Corsair0304 26 March 2014 08: 42
        0
        No. There is no trend, in fact there was such a fact. And the book about the priest, which says about it - "The Odyssey of the Varyag."
  5. Duelist
    Duelist 25 March 2014 16: 01
    +3
    Unnoticed, dignified, effective!
  6. polite people
    polite people 25 March 2014 16: 01
    +6
    The oligarchs of Russia - well done, that denyuzhki began to invest in the army. Everything will return to you. There will be something to remember in old age. But the army does not disappoint. soldier
    1. tnship2
      tnship2 25 March 2014 16: 11
      +7
      I would like Uncle Styopa the milliard to also take part.
  7. darksoul
    darksoul 25 March 2014 16: 02
    +17
    Quote: Andrey 447
    Worked excellently in Crimea !!!


    Well, not the right word. Clever, cunning, professional. As the western correspondent said in the Crimea in the video, de jure there are no Russian soldiers here, but de facto here he is a polite green man in front of me laughing
  8. Maxim90
    Maxim90 25 March 2014 16: 02
    +2
    There was already an article somewhere. I read it already.
  9. pogis
    pogis 25 March 2014 16: 06
    +6
    and our Western "partners" (as President Putin calls them)
    Yes, we have how we want our partners good
  10. tnship2
    tnship2 25 March 2014 16: 08
    +16
    In general, unexpectedly brilliant. Our liberal media wrote only nasty things about the army, and here it was like a phoenix from the ashes! the Americans cackled "we slept through" "we did not see" "we did not hear them." Behind the Pentagon, otherwise you will wake up in the morning and your head is in the nightstand.
    1. DS14
      DS14 25 March 2014 20: 50
      +1
      So, it turns out that Serdyukov was a smoke screen? bully
  11. Vi_RUS
    Vi_RUS 25 March 2014 16: 08
    +11
    Putin and all his "gang" (as the opposition says) worked on "Hurray", so the enemies, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, are the BEST IN THE WORLD !!!
  12. KOSMOS
    KOSMOS 25 March 2014 16: 08
    +9
    Yes
    Quote: Andrew 447
    Worked excellently in Crimea !!!

    Yes, and in the plan of the visual perception of our military, I'm sorry, the self-defense forces of the Crimea made a giant leap! Recall the Chechen events, without tears you will not remember!
  13. Grenz
    Grenz 25 March 2014 16: 09
    +31
    Well, fuss has not been canceled yet. And he says in the case.
    I am glad at least that at the forum I have always categorically opposed all kinds of imported things like "Lynx", "Mistral", Italian helicopters, etc. So what. History proves that we ourselves can perfectly make good equipment and weapons.
    Technical dependency is a dead end option. Fans of "Lynx" and "Mistrals", and there are many of them on the forum, can minus.
  14. konvalval
    konvalval 25 March 2014 16: 11
    +4
    Quote: polite people
    The oligarchs of Russia - well done, that denyuzhki began to invest in the army. Everything will return to you. There will be something to remember in old age. But the army does not disappoint. soldier

    Where does the data come from?
  15. konvalval
    konvalval 25 March 2014 16: 12
    +4
    Jewelry worked! The experience of the USSR was not in vain.
  16. Gagarin
    Gagarin 25 March 2014 16: 13
    +10
    According to plans, by the end of 2020, modern weapons and military equipment should be in the category of armored combat vehicles - 82%, artillery systems - 79%, missile systems of the Ground Forces - 100%, multi-purpose vehicles - 72%

    GOLD WORDS, BALM ON THE HEART!
  17. polite people
    polite people 25 March 2014 16: 16
    +7
    Moscow regrets that in recent days, the current authorities in Ukraine have taken the initiative to withdraw the country from the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. “We regret to note that in recent days, deputies who are members of the Ukrainian ruling coalition from the Batkivshchyna and UDAR parties have taken the legislative initiative to withdraw Ukraine from the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. Attempts by the Ukrainian representative to dissociate themselves from this position do not inspire confidence in us. A serious threat looms over the NPT. We are sorry that other depositories of this agreement are pretending not to notice this danger, ”the statement reads on the website of the Russian Foreign Ministry. UKRAINE - you went crazy. Sorry for the emotions.
    1. FREGATENKAPITAN
      FREGATENKAPITAN 25 March 2014 16: 45
      +2
      Get out, then they will come out ......... But who will give them ... nuclear weapons to create? Otherwise, the global embargo, the bombing of nuclear centers, etc. ......................... This is on the principle of non-proliferation of nuclear weapons of the United Nations (i.e., American)
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  18. pogis
    pogis 25 March 2014 16: 19
    +35
    Putin sits in front of the TV and constantly calls the intelligence chief:
    - Order of Tyagniboku for the abolition of the Russian language! How so - not our agent ?! Order of Yarosh for the idea of ​​undermining a gas pipeline! What does it mean - it's not us, it's him ?! Is this Lyashko? And these nerds from Freedom - Miroshnichenko and others? Are there any of our agents there ?! What does it mean - they bought a wagon of popcorn and a beer tank and look at what is happening like a movie ???? !!!!
    Irritatedly hung up the phone and flicked a selector:
    - Beer to me. And popcorn. And a live broadcast from Ukraine.
    I looked. He dials the number again:
    - Why didn’t they save Muzychko?
    1. VeteranS
      VeteranS 25 March 2014 17: 36
      +6
      For that they "sent" a lady with a scythe and a nuclear weapon so that their own people would be "soaked," and at the same time we, the Russians .... Let now Aunt Merkel take the rap for her pupil before the Bundestag .... got stuck ....
      Truly, "If God wants to punish someone, He takes away his mind first of all ..." God, save Russia!
  19. VADEL
    VADEL 25 March 2014 16: 21
    +3
    Arms imports for the needs of the RF Armed Forces are fraught with significant risks for both the country's defense and the functioning of the defense industry

    The "lower classes" have always known this, it has recently come to the "upper classes". Paradox on paradox.
    1. Corsair0304
      Corsair0304 26 March 2014 08: 50
      0
      This is not a paradox - it is at the head of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation that a sane person has risen, who before that raised the Ministry of Emergencies.
  20. ispaniard
    ispaniard 25 March 2014 16: 21
    +9
    The term that the Ukrainian military called the Russian Army speaks well for itself - "Little green men" they can be anywhere and anytime. And the "Right Sector" walks by itself (Video from Odessa demonstrates this well))) Literally: -In Odessa, "Green Men" are seen !!! -But after all, they are not in the city! .. -It seems to be not ... But you and I know that there is ...
  21. Russ69
    Russ69 25 March 2014 16: 28
    +28
    Interview with the commander of the Ukrainian Marine Corps battalion who sided with Russia

    1. urzul
      urzul 25 March 2014 16: 38
      +4
      I'm sorry for the Zapolit, quit after a press conference with Tenyukh
      1. Kazanec
        Kazanec 25 March 2014 17: 10
        0
        And what else could he do?
      2. Kazanec
        Kazanec 25 March 2014 17: 10
        +1
        And what else could he do?
    2. ksenofont7
      ksenofont7 25 March 2014 16: 49
      +3
      everything is fine, everything is so. A Oath? I would not want to be in their place. repeat
      1. urzul
        urzul 25 March 2014 16: 52
        +28
        Nobody would want to.
        The oath is good when the enemy is obvious, and when you are forced to fight against your neighbors, you will think about it.
        Indeed, during the "military intervention" 0 dead, and during the "peaceful revolution" as much as a whole hundred, so think where the enemy is.
      2. Homo
        Homo 25 March 2014 19: 31
        +6
        Quote: ksenofont7
        everything is fine, everything is so. A Oath? I would not want to be in their place.

        The oath must be remembered when there is a state to which one has sworn an oath. And the "maydauny" themselves declared that a revolution had taken place in Ukraine. And the revolution, as you know, abolishes all legislative acts of the state. So it is inappropriate to mention the oath, there is none - ABOLISHED!
      3. Tersky
        Tersky 25 March 2014 20: 20
        +5
        Quote: ksenofont7
        everything is fine, everything is so. A Oath? I would not want to be in their place.

        Here is a quote from the oath that I once took: (the most important thing is in bold type) "I swear to conscientiously study military affairs, to protect military and national property in every possible way and to be devoted to my To the people, to their Soviet Motherland and the Soviet Government. "
  22. s1н7т
    s1н7т 25 March 2014 16: 30
    +7
    I wouldn't judge the quality of the RF Armed Forces by the Crimean events, not an indicator. And it's not a fact that it was the troops who played the main role - well, there is no such information. Although, if so, then damn glad, of course. However, it is not a fact yet, but this citizen is already proposing conclusions. It would not be "dizzy with success." After all, defense is such a thing - it is better to overlook, as they say.
    1. Sma11
      Sma11 25 March 2014 17: 04
      +1
      I completely agree. As the saying goes - So the cards went down.
    2. biglow
      biglow 25 March 2014 19: 57
      +4
      Quote: c1n7
      I wouldn't judge the quality of the RF Armed Forces by the Crimean events, not an indicator. And it's not a fact that it was the troops who played the main role - well, there is no such information. Although, if so, then damn glad, of course. However, it is not a fact yet, but this citizen is already proposing conclusions. It would not be "dizzy with success." After all, defense is such a thing - it is better to overlook, as they say.

      Russian troops prevented massacre in Crimea, the Tatars were waiting for the arrival of the PS to start it .. And when they began to transfer Russian troops and they began to occupy all the key points and block the same marine corps in Feodosia, the people cheered up and their hands were already untied by the local self-defense so that to mobilize citizens and put pressure on the executive authorities in order to organize a referendum ...
      Therefore, the importance of the troops was decisive ... The blocking of the airport and railway did not allow to transfer to the Crimea either militants or money for those who were already here ...
  23. sinukvl
    sinukvl 25 March 2014 16: 32
    +17
    Well done! No noise and dust! Already takes pride!
    1. Corsair0304
      Corsair0304 26 March 2014 09: 22
      0
      Well, who needed to pull Fortopiano into the forest? )) Why?
  24. les103284
    les103284 25 March 2014 16: 42
    +3
    The consequences of the next "military" tension in the Crimea showed that the armament and means of communication and command and control of military groupings must be of domestic production. I have no doubt that the ongoing re-equipment of the Russian Armed Forces will be successful, and then our American "partners" will see the renewed Russian army in all its glory!
  25. Morgan761
    Morgan761 25 March 2014 16: 52
    +3
    Quote: c1n7
    I would not on the Crimean events judge about the quality of the RF Armed Forces, not an indicator. And it's not a fact that it was the troops who played the main role - well, there is no such information. Although, if so, then damn glad, of course. However, it is not a fact yet, but this citizen is already proposing conclusions. It would not be "dizzy with success." After all, defense is such a thing - it is better to overlook, as they say.

    And there is no need to "judge" - I think it is necessary to judge current the authorities of Ukraine for introducing interethnic hatred to the rank of the LAW of Ukraine .... Current (in yellow) - from the Russian proverb: everything flows, everything changes - these will not change - they will simply "flow away" ....
  26. Morgan761
    Morgan761 25 March 2014 17: 00
    0
    Quote: polite people
    Moscow regrets that in recent days, the current authorities in Ukraine have taken the initiative to withdraw the country from the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. “We regret to note that in recent days, deputies who are members of the Ukrainian ruling coalition from the Batkivshchyna and UDAR parties have taken the legislative initiative to withdraw Ukraine from the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. Attempts by the Ukrainian representative to dissociate themselves from this position do not inspire confidence in us. A serious threat looms over the NPT. We are sorry that other depositories of this agreement are pretending not to notice this danger, ”the statement reads on the website of the Russian Foreign Ministry. UKRAINE - you went crazy. Sorry for the emotions.

    Excuse me ... It's just YULYA who gave the command to shoot "ka-tsa-pov" from the hip with an atomic gun ...
  27. Siberian19
    Siberian19 25 March 2014 17: 00
    +6
    Well, this America jumps
    1. TEODOR
      TEODOR 26 March 2014 07: 59
      0
      Why hasn't the mattress Flag been removed from the White House?
  28. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 25 March 2014 17: 05
    +2
    Quote: platitsyn70
    they worked not only professionally but also without information leaks, which stunned Western special services.

    As Lelik said: "No noise and dust. According to the newly approved plan."
    Of course the task was completed with stunning speed and coherence. And most importantly, no loss.
    This is, indeed, a new quality of the army. But this is only the beginning of the journey, and the beginning is not bad.
  29. apollo
    apollo 25 March 2014 17: 07
    0
    I recalled one story with an American soldier:

    During a fight in the Belgrade disco “Plastic”, in which the recently amnestied fan of “Red Star” Uroš Mishić also took part, the US Marine, who serves in the security of the US Embassy in Belgrade, was beaten.

    Two American marines quarreled with five Serbs, among whom, according to the club’s security, was 25-year-old Mishich. Bottles went into the fray, one of the Marines received injuries and cuts on his head.
    1. Riperbahn
      Riperbahn 26 March 2014 00: 46
      0
      At the US Embassy in Belgrade, all exterior street windows are still bricked up to now. Serbs are hot people. How Crvena the Star will lose - so they beat the windows to the Americans !!! :))))
  30. chuma_velikiy
    chuma_velikiy 25 March 2014 17: 08
    +6
    Quote: Duke
    The polite troops of Putin.
    not....
    Polite Troops of Russia !!!
  31. parusnik
    parusnik 25 March 2014 17: 32
    +3
    God forbid, what would continue to be ..
  32. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 25 March 2014 17: 50
    +15
    From the ocean to the British seas, the Red Army is all the strongest!
  33. stillrat
    stillrat 25 March 2014 17: 55
    +3
    Yes-ah. The operation in the Crimea is the upper class, in every sense of the word. Just some kind of Hollywood !!!
  34. fly fishing
    fly fishing 25 March 2014 18: 00
    +1
    The beginning is promising!
    But we still need to take up the training of youth, specialists in the field of development
    precision weapons and new technologies.
    Shots are mostly pre-retirement age.
    Enough for the country to produce managers and lawyers.
  35. Barakuda
    Barakuda 25 March 2014 18: 00
    +3
    Quote: grenz
    Technical dependency is a dead end option. Fans of "Lynx" and "Mistrals", and there are many of them on the forum, can minus.

    I agree. We conducted tests in Ukraine (I can't remember the video). 2 hours off-road, armor plates began to fall off (would have been steel, I would understand) on the doors. Inside, the comfort of a jeep for the driver, even a 3-point belt (and what will he do in case of injury?), But as for a fighter, inside there are a lot of inconveniences - to see him on a "military" walk was designed and wants high-quality fuel. A "Mistral" probably GDP will be needed in the near future. Ours can do the same, but the years will pass - the project, revision of the project, etc. And here it is already ready. Although it has disadvantages.
  36. Bigriver
    Bigriver 25 March 2014 18: 04
    +1
    Quote: polite people
    The oligarchs of Russia - well done, that money began to invest in the army ...

    And the oligarchs? Budgeting is not their competence, nor are other operational-tactical and strategic issues of the country's development.
  37. pogis
    pogis 25 March 2014 18: 16
    +8
    The meeting of the Verkhovna Rada. Quarrel, squabble. A very old deputy pulls a shaking hand:
    .
    -Lads! Give me a couple of words for ecology! ..
    -That didu, go to bis, not to you at once! .. Revolution ..
    -Lads! Well, just a couple of words ... For ecology! ...
    -So. Kind ... Tell me, come!
    .
    Grandfather rises to the podium, puts on his glasses, looks around the hall and says:
    -Lads! Save Lisi! You schovatsya in them and khovatis.
  38. DS14
    DS14 25 March 2014 18: 23
    +9
    Confrontation in Belbek



    http://tutuskania.livejournal.com/1584929.html
    1. Chikua
      Chikua 25 March 2014 19: 08
      +1
      what kind of fighters in the background?
      1. Riperbahn
        Riperbahn 26 March 2014 00: 48
        +1
        This is probably private traders. They were discussed in some branch. They agreed - Chechens or some other Caucasians.
  39. delfinN
    delfinN 25 March 2014 18: 29
    +9
    Special Operations Forces MTR
  40. kaa1977
    kaa1977 25 March 2014 18: 33
    +1
    It was as if someone had prepared in advance for change and invested in the army and defense. Good move, I will say.
  41. nod739
    nod739 25 March 2014 18: 44
    +1
    Quote: Vi_RUS
    so premonit foes

    Nah, let the adversary tremble better
  42. Stalingradec
    Stalingradec 25 March 2014 18: 48
    +2
    The times when they respected those who defend their homeland have not returned!
  43. individual
    individual 25 March 2014 19: 09
    +2
    Most importantly, Russia has foreseen future threats in the acquisition of weapons and equipment and eliminated most of the threats.
    Now we need to progressively develop industry, vocational schools for the training of professional executors and engineering and technical personnel.
    Replace the government of liberals with the power of patriots.
  44. SLOVO
    SLOVO 25 March 2014 19: 10
    +3
    Quote: c1n7
    Judging by the weapons - intelligence, no? And in what parts of the armed forces does this rifle regularly exist - Vintorez, it seems?


    I will say one thing, all the equipment is from the Rostov region, judging by the numbers. Special forces units of the Southern Federal District are equipped with all the weapons shown in the photo. We are close to Chechnya, you never know. About "vintorez" there is a kind of legend we have. During the Chechen war, an intelligence group came across a detachment of militants. One of the scouts took up a position in a tree and disguised himself, was armed with a "screw cutter". A fight ensued. The result of the battle: the entire group of militants was destroyed, none of the scouts was injured. Most of the militants were destroyed by a sniper who was sitting in a tree, the militants did not notice him.
    1. Smoke
      Smoke 25 March 2014 22: 22
      +2
      I doubt that there was a sniper on the tree: the tree shakes from the wind, foliage, branches climb into the sight - take a hell out of sight .... but an observer-spotter may well be.
      1. Corsair0304
        Corsair0304 26 March 2014 09: 38
        0
        Taking a position as a sniper on a tree is quite realizable. Swinging a tree - he's not sitting at the very top, anyway, kg. 70-80 weight, Closely located leaves are not visible in the optics - diffuses. In addition, there is such a thing as "firing behind the underbrush (curtain effect) when you see the enemy, but he does not. The underbrush and branches extinguish the sound of a shot + a flash of the muzzle.
        It is unlikely that in the described situation a sniper climbed a tree, rather went into the flag / rear and from there already worked on the enemy, while they were distracted by the main group.
        1. Smoke
          Smoke 26 March 2014 10: 41
          0
          I’m certainly not a great specialist, but I certainly wouldn’t climb a tree in the face of a head-on battle in the forest, since I'm sorry I was born a man and not a monkey and not a tarzan))
  45. Leshka
    Leshka 25 March 2014 19: 18
    0
    immediately seen profisianolism
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  47. bubalik
    bubalik 25 March 2014 19: 26
    +3
    ,,, even the enemy admitted ,,,
    [
    b] The Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the NATO Allied Forces in Europe, American General Philip Breedlove at an expert "Brussels Forum" said that NATO gives a very high assessment of the training of Russian troops near the western border of the Russian Federation.

    According to Breedlove, "the Russian forces, which are relatively close to the Ukrainian border, are distinguished by their high numbers and very, very good training."

    The Supreme Commander-in-Chief also emphasized that if the leadership of the Russian Federation makes such a decision, these forces are “enough to make an unhindered attack to Transnistria”, which “causes NATO’s high concern.” [/ B]
    1. SSR
      SSR 25 March 2014 22: 31
      0
      The Americans, too, began to fuss, they did not fully understand what was happening and admit that ours fully complied with the conspiracy, so to speak, and not a single extra word was leaked on the air
  48. upasika1918
    upasika1918 25 March 2014 20: 09
    +11
    Where else will there be a referendum?
  49. Smoke
    Smoke 25 March 2014 22: 23
    +1
    After the events of 080808, and especially after the WikiLeaks data fell into the hands of the country's leadership, not without the help of Assange, in which our army, according to NATO estimates, was recognized as "very weak and ineffective" (there was a corresponding article), transformations began: Serdyukov was removed from his post, was adopted rearmament plan assigned to Shoigu, test-exercises began, sudden checks, etc.
    Actually, we see the result in Crimea, I’m very happy. I am glad that progress has finally begun in terms of training the civilian population - Putin is reviving the TRP standards again, now it remains to consolidate all this legislatively - for those who did not serve to prohibit holding top and middle posts in the state and introduce electoral qualifications - those who did not serve can vote only after 35 years old and with a family.
  50. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 26 March 2014 07: 52
    +4
    Quote: Altona
    Spetsnaz in its purest form ... There is definitely nothing for the Ukrainian army to catch, only hide in the cockpits or go out to surrender with the banners deployed ... soldier drinks


    With all my dislike for the Maidanyuk, I would not speak like that about the Ukrainian military in general. There are very decent fighters there (see on the YouTube "Lavrov's Seminar in Odessa 2009"). But for the fact that, despite a direct order from the top, there was not a single shot from the Ukrainian military - a separate respect and respect. The Slavs should not shoot at the Slavs, for these purposes there are a lot of other Banderlog.