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Putin revived the TRP system

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Putin revived the TRP system



Vladimir Putin said that he had signed a decree on the revival of physical fitness standards - “Ready for Labor and Defense!”. At the same time, it was decided to keep the old name - “Ready for Labor and Defense!” - as a tribute to the traditions of the national stories.

As the president said at a meeting of the sports council, the updated TRP provides for the submission of sports standards in the 11 age groups, starting at six years old. Mass sport, according to Putin, should develop and be more accessible for people of different ages, health conditions, and the initiative to revive the TRP is aimed at that. “The launch of the TRP program sharply raises the issue of sports facilities,” Interfax quotes the president. “We need a network of non-commercial physical culture and sports clubs in places of residence, work or service. That is, within walking distance. There should be sports facilities in the open the air. "

An additional measure to attract citizens to the sport, according to Putin, could be a mechanism for motivating health insurance organizations. "For example, through encouraging those who lead a healthy lifestyle, they regularly undergo medical examinations and do not have insurance claims in the previous calendar year," the president said.

In addition, the head of state considers it “expedient to supplement the standard list of measures annually implemented by the employer to improve working conditions and labor protection."
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  1. ziqzaq
    ziqzaq 24 March 2014 18: 51
    +72
    That's right, still to return the station of young technicians ....
    1. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 24 March 2014 19: 06
      +30
      Good deal!
      "At the same time, it was decided to keep the old name -" Ready for Labor and Defense! "- as a tribute to the traditions of national history."
      But is it still possible to nationalize the property of oligarchs and prolific banks, also as a tribute to traditions. And then the parents of the children, there is not enough money for the development of children.
      After all, the factories where their parents worked as "effective owners" have been lost!
      "By the end of March, the Moscow authorities expect to decide on an investor who will undertake the clearing of the ZIL territory in the southeast of the capital and the construction of a new residential area here."
      http://www.kommersant.ru/gallery/2406378#id=987073

      It seems that I need to start things with the fight against corruption and the return of the stolen People.
      And the TRP is of course a good thing, but not fundamental. And how is it not clear what kind of uncle they are preparing children for? Previously, they worked for the homeland and defended their homeland, but now?
      1. Native grandfather
        Native grandfather 24 March 2014 19: 56
        +17
        Quote: S_mirnov
        And the TRP is of course a good thing, but not fundamental.

        Specifically, in this aspect I can not agree with you. The health of the nation should always come first. Here it is necessary to add various sections to the TRP. That would be where to show this TRP. As we had in the USSR. We were all athletic and healthy. Although fashionable and did not dress.
        1. sergey_t75
          sergey_t75 24 March 2014 20: 41
          +6
          and we didn’t need to dress fashionably. we were all athletes, handsome, pioneers and Komsomol members. this was the time))))
        2. witch
          witch 24 March 2014 23: 41
          +4
          Yes, the GDP has gone in the right direction. Yet you need to revive dasaafs and all sorts of circles and that would be free. Then the CIVIL DEFENSE to enter will also not hurt. Engage in the ideology of youth, otherwise the country has no ideology, because the 5th column is crazy about us. it will be more difficult for her to act when people themselves oppose it. And a little bit of media control to take that would be less nonsense
          1. CTEPX
            CTEPX 25 March 2014 04: 42
            0
            Quote: warlock
            . still need to revive dasaafs and all sorts of circles and that would be free

            In the meantime, our local "fifth columns", led by grant suckers, during the previous month all the few military-sports clubs (VSK) were turned into physical culture and sports clubs, where instead of patriotism they give only hand-to-hand combat. Comrades work systematically and dig deep)).
      2. cerko
        cerko 24 March 2014 19: 58
        +1
        stop whining
        1. Manul
          Manul 24 March 2014 23: 32
          +2
          Quote: cerko
          stop whining

          Maybe you are just jealous that you did not find this time? In any case, your answer is below the plinth. Worthy minus. You must respect any human joys, even if they do not concern you.
      3. Cherdak
        Cherdak 24 March 2014 21: 07
        +6
        Quote: S_mirnov
        Good deal!

        Revenues from the Olympic Games in Sochi exceeded expenses by 1,5 billion rubles., These funds will be used to develop mass sports, said Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Kozak at a meeting of the Presidential Council for the Development of Physical Culture and Sports. good
      4. super-vitek
        super-vitek 24 March 2014 22: 57
        +5
        I think you are wrong !!! As you do not call the masoovo physical education of the TRP, or something else it is the BASIS for the nation !!! I live in Taganrog and visiting the hall for me and my wife will cost at least 4000t.r per month with an average salary of 20000 tons in our city it is very expensive !!!! We take our child to music school and dance, but she wants to go to taekwondo (I saw competitions in the palace and caught fire), but we can’t afford it because going to the gym for a child 1000t.r per month !!! And yes, by the way the music school is free and dancing 900r per month !!!! And tog not a tricky calculation of 4000 + 1000 + 900 + travel and that in the region of eight thousand rubles !!! ALMOST 50% of the MONTHLY salary !!! So I’m with my hands and feet for the TRP !!! And my opinion is that the health of the nation is a priority for any state self-respecting and his people !!!
      5. andrewvlg
        andrewvlg 25 March 2014 20: 48
        0
        Quote: S_mirnov
        But is it still possible to nationalize the property of oligarchs and prolific banks, also as a tribute to traditions.

        Quote: S_mirnov
        It seems that I need to start things with the fight against corruption and the return of the stolen People.
        And the TRP is of course a good thing, but not fundamental. And how is it not clear what kind of uncle they are preparing children for? Previously, they worked for the homeland and defended their homeland, but now?

        Why so long? Simply put: give us back the USSR!
    2. a52333
      a52333 24 March 2014 19: 14
      +4
      They are, my son walks.
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 24 March 2014 19: 20
        +1
        Quote: a52333
        They are, my son walks.

        I was lucky, and I have guys in the area with rags and spray guns - they wipe the headlights of cars at intersections. Probably they are studying business.
        1. Simon
          Simon 24 March 2014 20: 07
          +1
          As if under the wheels of cars did not fall. fool
        2. Dikson
          Dikson 24 March 2014 20: 29
          +2
          Quote: S_mirnov
          I’m lucky, and I have guys in the area with rags and spray guns - they wipe the headlights of cars at intersections

          And you guys gather in the area and bargain a hockey box for them .. or a streetball court ...
          1. Cherdak
            Cherdak 24 March 2014 21: 48
            +5
            Quote: Dikson
            And you guys gather around the area and bungle
          2. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 25 March 2014 09: 51
            -2
            Quote: Dikson
            And you guys gather in the area and bargain a hockey box for them .. or a streetball court ...

            So full of them. They built it during the USSR.
        3. Reks
          Reks 25 March 2014 01: 57
          0
          Quote: S_mirnov
          and I have guys in the area with rags and spray guns - they wipe the headlights of cars at intersections.
          hi My respect. Something I probably missed. Are you writing about the 90s ?? Here I strain everything that you can strain in your head laughing and only pictures of the Gorbachev-Yeltsin period surfaced.
      2. Simon
        Simon 24 March 2014 20: 06
        +2
        Yes, but very few. I remember the sections and circles of technical creativity were almost in all schools, in the palaces of culture and even courtyards. How many good scientists, engineers and athletes the Union has grown. Putin is starting a good business and I support him. good
        1. Manul
          Manul 24 March 2014 23: 40
          +3
          Quote: Simon
          Yes, but very few. I remember the sections and circles of technical creativity were almost in all schools, in the palaces of culture and even courtyards. How many good scientists, engineers and athletes the Union has grown. Putin is starting a good business and I support him.

          I can’t convey the feeling when I first came to the arm of my mother with my mother for the first time at the Palace of Pioneers (Peterhof.Leningrad). I eagerly looked at the list of circles (what I was already doing at the music school at the piano class) and realized that I wanted to do EVERYONE! I want to try myself everywhere! (By the way, I went to 4 circles alternately in the future. Apart from the 4 sports sections at the university in high school) And it is such a blessing that the children could do everything that was close to them in spirit. And if that changed circle and try yourself in another ... Great time. I hope that this will be reborn!
    3. w2000
      w2000 24 March 2014 19: 35
      +33
      And the initial military training at school, instead of slurred life safety.
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 24 March 2014 19: 44
        +4
        Quote: w2000
        And the initial military training at school, instead of slurred life safety.

        This is you talking business! Yes, it’s only fearful of those in power.
        1. muginov2015
          muginov2015 24 March 2014 20: 04
          +5
          Ato! God forbid, the kids will start riveting radio-controlled missiles such as ground-vent
          1. s1н7т
            s1н7т 24 March 2014 20: 15
            +6
            Quote: muginov2015
            God forbid, the kids will start riveting radio-controlled missiles such as ground-vent

            It's okay, in my opinion. But the nozzle theory will be known! laughing At one time, such rockets were "riveted", once it flew into the window laughing However, they were registered in DCM only after a snowball in the policeman’s cap laughing That is, it turns out that our childhood was much more free and useful. laughing
            1. Manul
              Manul 24 March 2014 23: 45
              0
              Quote: c1n7
              At one time, such rockets were "riveted", once it flew into the window

              My celluloid and foil rocket flew above a 9-story building, then I couldn’t prove to anyone that it’s true laughing
              Even those who were witnesses then began to doubt repeat
              1. internatio
                internatio 25 March 2014 05: 13
                0
                Yes, there were such films! And the rulers. And ping pong balls. But the main thing was the education system, and not the chaos, which is now in the education of Crimeans. I am writing competently as a professional. The entire education system in the Crimea, and throughout the rest of the Russian Federation, must be very thoughtfully and purposefully changed taking into account the country's needs in the XNUMXst century. And it’s a shame when the boys only do beads, embroideries and paper figures in labor lessons. And they don’t know how to hold a hammer drill ...
      2. MAKCs
        MAKCs 24 March 2014 20: 07
        0
        In some schools it is
      3. Santa Fe
        Santa Fe 24 March 2014 20: 09
        -9
        Vladimir Putin announced that he had signed a decree on the revival of the standards of physical training - "Ready for work and defense!"

        Now, I'm trying to understand, Vladimir Vladimirovich understands that this was from another civilization? I'm not talking about how reasonable it is to resurrect the TRP badge in some school where half of the students sniffed with salts and isn't it easier for the Gosnarkokontrol to simply deal with drugs, and not with Wikipedia on the Internet?

        But the TRP, Ready for work and defense - it was a different civilization, it was Stalin, who created universal soldiers and universal workers who were to build a super-country and conquer the world. So, what does the TRP badge have to do with Putin’s oil pumping stations? In modern Russia, it sounds as ridiculous as requiring everyone to shoot from a bow

        Or Hero of Labor. What kind of work? Is it time to start to favor the ranks of the butler and bedding? This is a different civilization. Winocherd Sechin. Oil Sechin.
        1. Metlik
          Metlik 24 March 2014 20: 31
          +8
          Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
          Now, I'm trying to understand, Vladimir Vladimirovich understands that this was from another civilization?


          At what times did people not want to be fit and athletic? Only now a fitness club is a pleasure that not everyone can afford.

          Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
          and isn’t it easier for the State Drug Control Department to simply deal with drugs instead


          TRP - double hit on drugs. Firstly, youth will have something to do. Secondly, sports and drugs are poorly compatible.
          1. Santa Fe
            Santa Fe 24 March 2014 21: 04
            -3
            Quote: Metlik
            At what times did people not want to be fit and athletic? Fitness club just now

            Ready for LABOR and DEFENSE

            And here is a fitness club and pumped up press. TRP - there was a whole system aimed at the upbringing (preparation / selection / control of physical condition) of citizens who were ready on labor and military feats for the sake of their state

            In modern Russia, this sounds like a mockery of the Soviet legacy. What kind of work? What is the overpayment? - take everything from life, do not let yourself dry.

            But oxygen boilers and a fitness club are another story altogether. Temporary fashion for a healthy lifestyle and the cult of one’s own body, born on the covers of glossy magazines
            Quote: Metlik
            TRP - double hit on drugs. First, youth will have something to do

            Yes, the icon is a strong incentive for modern schoolchildren and students)))
            1. Metlik
              Metlik 24 March 2014 21: 30
              +5
              Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
              What is the overpayment? - take everything from life, do not let yourself dry.

              The motto of modern Russia? Rather, the motto of rats who in 90 have grabbed and dumped from the country. But the ship sinking, as it seemed to them, turned out to be the latest submarine.


              Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
              Yes, the icon is a strong incentive for modern schoolchildren and students)))


              I would love to wear it, and the Voroshilovsky shooter is nearby. The problem is not the badge, but the fact that there is nothing to do in your free time. This is what leads to drugs.
              1. Santa Fe
                Santa Fe 24 March 2014 22: 13
                -7
                Quote: Metlik
                turned out to be the latest submarine.

                Are you talking about K-560 "Severodvinsk" (pr. 885 Ash)? - 21 years after the start of construction, it was accepted for trial operation with 200 defects. In fact, incapable
                Quote: Metlik
                The problem is not the badge, but the fact that there is nothing to do in your free time

                Then where does the TRP badge?
                Does it somehow help to occupy young people in their free time? Or it will become a laughing stock, like all previous initiatives of the authorities (change of time zones, police to the police, etc.)
                1. Metlik
                  Metlik 24 March 2014 22: 33
                  +3
                  Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                  Are you talking about K-560 "Severodvinsk" (pr. 885 Ash)? - 21 years after the start of construction, it was accepted for trial operation with 200 defects. In fact, incapable


                  The normal process of fine-tuning weapons of a new level. The question "what is the defense?" will be clear in 2020, but for now I will sleep more calmly if a guy with a TRP badge is sitting at the remote with a nuclear button.



                  Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                  Then where does the TRP badge?

                  And what are the problems with badges? Maybe the medal of the Hero of Russia is outdated, and the St. George Cross? They are from a past era.
              2. internatio
                internatio 25 March 2014 05: 30
                0
                You are partially right. But the root of the problem of the spread of drugs lies in their supply and distribution. Asking the question: who benefits from this? And - who does this? Easy to find answers. But it’s more difficult to eliminate the source without having IMPORTANT to someone IMPORTANT.
            2. Kurkin
              Kurkin 24 March 2014 21: 31
              +8
              SWEET_SIXTEEN, dear, have you ever thought that in order to change something in the country, it is necessary to raise a generation brought up on other principles? So, I think so, the revival of the TRP is the desire to educate a new generation in a different value system of coordinates. Departure from "fashion" and the cult of the golden calf to other values ​​and postulates of life.
              1. Santa Fe
                Santa Fe 24 March 2014 22: 17
                -4
                Quote: Kurkin
                So, I think so, the revival of the TRP is the desire to educate the new generation in a different value coordinate system.

                Maybe for a start Serdyukov and Vasilyeva will be jailed? Putin and all Kremlin leaders will switch from Mercedes to ZILs (or licensed Volga-Cyber ​​hotbots) And the deputies will stop buying penthouses in Miami

                Otherwise, it causes such irreparable damage to the image of the authorities and the country that there are no badges for the TRP
                1. Kurkin
                  Kurkin 24 March 2014 22: 50
                  +3
                  Maybe for a start Serdyukov and Vasiliev will be put in prison?
                  Here I agree!
                  will change from Mercedes to ZIL
                  Today there was official news that they will do so. They will switch to the purchase of domestic cars for public services. You look and ZIL will revive, and no worse than maybach be conjured. In general, indiscriminately to blame is good. And what did you do to change the situation? They handed over to some militiamen? Maybe they themselves in the civil service in law enforcement? Keep a charity or community organization?
              2. internatio
                internatio 25 March 2014 05: 41
                +1
                But aren't there any prerequisites now for this transition? Maybe not in a revolutionary way, but in an evolutionary way. Already some in Crimea began to whine: yes, you have salaries from state employees, but we have no orders in the private enterprise "PE"! So you remember that they destroyed 90% of factories and factories in Crimea. This is where to invest - in the creation of new jobs. To restore the education system, upbringing. And bring back music education lessons (with singing). Then you can remember about a comprehensively harmoniously developed personality !!!
            3. shatu
              shatu 24 March 2014 22: 12
              0
              Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
              Yes, the icon is a strong incentive for modern schoolchildren and students)))

              If you approach from the standpoint of the middle of the last century, then this incentive will not be for many. But there will be such people, if even now many are engaged in "for themselves".

              And if we promote "beauty and sport" by all available means, from the state level to the level of parents, implement IT solutions (social networks?) - to make it a socially significant and prestigious phenomenon, then this incentive will be of interest to many more people.
            4. Manul
              Manul 24 March 2014 23: 54
              +2
              Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
              In modern Russia, this sounds like a mockery of the Soviet legacy.

              Don't push. Doesn't suit you. You can pass by the TRP and everything. And most likely you will. My advice to you is to read (apparently not read) Samuil Marshak - "Not so". It is useful for you.
          2. internatio
            internatio 25 March 2014 05: 24
            +2
            And there’s a tragic side: very many kids don’t know how to swim. Even here in the Crimea. Especially the inhabitants of the steppe and mountain regions. Why? Firstly it is expensive. Secondly, there are no permits. Thirdly, infections in seawater due to sewage.
            Regarding drugs and similar rubbish - our public is ready to help specialists in this fight. Only a little scary - we know how dangerous this help is. We need a system of work with the active part of the population. For example, with the "Russian Communities of Crimea", with other public organizations.
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        3. sergeschern
          sergeschern 24 March 2014 21: 19
          +3
          Under Stalin, there was a GST — Be Ready for Labor and Defense. negative
        4. Cherdak
          Cherdak 24 March 2014 23: 07
          +7
          Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
          TRP, Ready for work and defense - it was a different civilization


          This is OUR civilization! Healthy nation, able to love their country soldier
        5. Manul
          Manul 24 March 2014 23: 50
          +3
          Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
          Now, I'm trying to understand, Vladimir Vladimirovich understands that this was from another civilization?

          So I'm trying to understand - from what civilization you came. If there is an opinion, you need to listen to it. The cry of the liberals - "it's all unnecessary" makes me consider your words in this spectrum.
      4. internatio
        internatio 25 March 2014 05: 02
        +2
        In Crimean schools, it is not enough to replace the current little intelligible course for the 10th grade with CWP. It is necessary to restore the system of children's summer military-sports health camps. For example, "Young Scout" and "Brave" in the Sudak region of Crimea. And to restore the game "Zarnitsa" and the camp "Eaglet" - the rival of "Artek". And in places of partisan glory to lay equipped paths, using modern technologies. But be careful! There is a lot of rusty iron in the Crimean land. And to restore the shooting gallery system, it was possible to shoot from TOZ 8 and TOZ 12. The skills remained for life. And an incomplete assembly and disassembly of the AK with my eyes closed - I love it since I was 12! And to make the magazines "Technics for Youth", "Young Technician", "Science and Life" available for young people. I know from myself - they are an important part of self-education. And education.
    4. Native grandfather
      Native grandfather 24 March 2014 19: 50
      +4
      Quote: ziqzaq
      That's right, still to return the station of young technicians ....

      Plus "Yunatka" and CYSS. )))
    5. platitsyn70
      platitsyn70 24 March 2014 20: 00
      +2
      children need to be distracted by something from the street.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 24 March 2014 20: 06
        +5
        Quote: platitsyn70
        children need to be distracted by something from the street.

        And not only to distract, but also to educate through circles and sections.
      2. Saburo
        Saburo 24 March 2014 21: 02
        +1
        I don’t know how it is in the provinces, but in Moscow I have problems of a different kind, how to take children to the streets. For five years I have not seen children playing on the street. But I know very well that there are plenty of children, I see how they go to school in the morning. All entertainment is replaced by a computer and the Internet. They have something to do themselves and vryatli this can offer some kind of alternative.
        So vryatli in cities with millionaires all this revived Soviet heritage will take root. Wasting your time for ... badge? Young people simply do not understand.
      3. internatio
        internatio 25 March 2014 05: 48
        0
        And from virtual life on the net or for computer games. Tourism. Swimming. Mass sport. And it is especially important to raise collectivists, and not ego-individualists. Pay attention to the institution of the family - kids do not run from healthy families to the streets! Parents and children should be helped by social workers. And psychologists.
    6. Simon
      Simon 24 March 2014 20: 01
      +6
      Give more free circles and sections! So that our youth is healthy, strong and strong. good
      1. Santa Fe
        Santa Fe 25 March 2014 00: 51
        -3
        Quote: Simon
        Give more free circles and sections!

        Note - free circles and sections are out of the question!

        It’s about passing a few standards to get an icon that no one needs. Ordinary people will laugh at another mediocre initiative - but we are not used to it. Already the police were turned into police. Time zones were changed and winter time was canceled / entered. Conducted a general medical examination (what's the point? If they’re not going to treat)

        The authorities will appoint commissioners (physical education from the school), he will open a separate notebook and put checkmarks. This is where the TRP ends.
      2. andrewvlg
        andrewvlg 25 March 2014 21: 16
        +1
        Quote: Simon
        Give more free circles and sections! So that our youth is healthy, strong and strong.

        Here in our city they built a hefty 2-storey complex with exercise machines on a vacant lot. The facade is decorated with a huge sign "UNITED RUSSIA - ...". Recently visited. On Saturday. After 5 minutes the sleepy "trainer" opens. He said that Saturday is an abbreviated day, and Sunday is generally a day off! The subscription costs 1500 rubles. per month. On weekdays they close early, if memory serves at 20.00. What are the state spent for? money? For comparison: the "rocking chair" in the basement, much closer to the city center, is half subsidized by the municipal budget, the price is 1200 rubles. per month. Pipes periodically leak in the basement, simulators, of course, are cheaper and older. BUT! There coaches work until late at night (23.00) every day, young people, children - a shaft, their eyes are burning, enthusiasm. What are the state spent for? money? For the advertising of the ruling party, which can be seen a kilometer away? You have to work with people, with people, and not stupidly state money. spend money.
    7. novobranets
      novobranets 24 March 2014 20: 07
      +2
      Quote: ziqzaq
      That's right, still to return the station of young technicians ....

      And DOSAAF, a very powerful and necessary organization.
    8. Dikson
      Dikson 24 March 2014 20: 26
      +5
      I don’t know how it is with you, but in my city the SUT works for itself, and the guys there are just doing the sea in mugs, and you’ll pump up their machines ... last month they got two 3D printers ... - details for compose airplanes and boats .. It depends on the city authorities on the ground, and not on the president ..
      1. Manul
        Manul 24 March 2014 23: 57
        0
        Quote: Dikson
        but in my city

        Please inquire! hi
    9. Grenader
      Grenader 24 March 2014 21: 22
      +3
      Somehow it immediately inspired:

      Look for firefighters,
      Looking for militia,
      Looking for photographers
      In our capital,
      They are looking for a long time,
      But they can not find
      Some guy
      Twenty years.

      Middle-height,
      Shoulder and strong,
      He walks in white
      T-shirt and cap.
      TRP sign
      On his chest.
    10. Dimkin
      Dimkin 25 March 2014 07: 43
      0
      still to return the stations of young technicians

      yes it certainly wouldn’t hurt
    11. petrT
      petrT 25 March 2014 23: 09
      0
      It’s just wonderful, and patriotic lessons must be introduced with going to the movies!)))
  2. saag
    saag 24 March 2014 18: 52
    +14
    The Voroshilovsky shooter and the Osoaviakhim society are next in turn :-)
    1. alone
      alone 24 March 2014 19: 01
      -15%
      Quote: saag
      The Voroshilovsky shooter and the Osoaviakhim society are next in turn :-)

      what

      You also forget about the Union of Militant Atheists)
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 24 March 2014 19: 12
        -6
        Quote: lonely
        You also forget about the Union of Militant Atheists)

        Well, you religions teach patience and humility, and without this in capitalist countries it is impossible. So the names will leave the old, and the filling will be new, I’m ready to argue that the newly created structure will not do without religious leaders.
        1. GreatRussia
          GreatRussia 24 March 2014 19: 29
          +9
          Quote: S_mirnov
          Well, you religions teach patience and humility, and without this in capitalist countries it is impossible.

          Again, here you are engaged in anti-religious propaganda. Itchy and itchy?


          Pray to God - victory is from Him.
          Today - to pray, tomorrow - to study, the day after tomorrow - victory or death!

          Suvorov.




          Jesus on resisting evil:
          34. Do not think that I have come to bring peace to
          land; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword

          Bible, New Testament, “The Gospel of Matthew”
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 24 March 2014 19: 41
            +2
            Quote: GreatRussia
            Pray to God - victory is from Him.
            Today - to pray, tomorrow - to study, the day after tomorrow - victory or death!
            Suvorov.

            It seems that there were some religious correctors here!
            “Taking care, apparently, of their reputation, the bright minds of the clergy came up with a wonderful idea - to edit the tale of Alexander Pushkin“ About the priest and his worker Balda. ”In the edition of modern priests, the original Pushkin priest was replaced by a merchant. to create in children a negative image of a clergyman The name of the masterpiece of church censorship "The Tale of the merchant Kuzma Ostolop and his worker Balda".

            But Suvorov had this:

            For the scientist, three unlearned people are given.

            Sincerity in relationships, truth in communication - this is friendship.

            Who is brave is alive. Who dare - that is whole.

            Courageous feats are more reliable than words.

            Learning is light and ignorance is darkness. The work of the master is afraid, and since the peasant does not know how to own the soy, bread will not be born.
            http://www.omg-mozg.ru/syvorov.htm
            1. GreatRussia
              GreatRussia 24 March 2014 19: 45
              +2
              Quote: S_mirnov
              “Taking care, apparently, of their reputation, the bright minds of the clergy came up with a wonderful idea - to edit the tale of Alexander Pushkin“ About the priest and his worker Balda. ”In the edition of modern priests, the original Pushkin priest was replaced by a merchant. to create in children a negative image of a clergyman The name of the masterpiece of church censorship "The Tale of the merchant Kuzma Ostolop and his worker Balda".

              Still itchy and itchy. I was not mistaken. Well, let's go.

              Lying again. One of the clergy of the Russian Orthodox Church in the Kuban just published in the original Vasily Zhukovsky. And no more.
              Who is V. Zhukovsky who needs to be explained or will you try to learn the basics yourself?



              But Suvorov had this:

              It wasn’t in your sincere anti-Orthodox dreams.
              http://knsuvorov.ru/materials/prav_articles.html




              But Suvorov had this:
              1. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 24 March 2014 19: 54
                +1
                Quote: GreatRussia
                It wasn’t in your sincere anti-Orthodox dreams.

                To familiarize the great Russian people with the glory, the church canonized them with pleasure, and taking into account the fact that the monks wrote the annals, many facts were completely perverted beyond recognition.
                Many oligarchs and criminal authorities have their own private chapels in the precincts, but they were not consecrated by atheists!
                However, I have nothing against Vera - you want to believe it, but why mix the church and the state together? This is a direct path to religious enmity.
                1. GreatRussia
                  GreatRussia 24 March 2014 20: 15
                  +1
                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  To familiarize the great Russian people with the glory, the church canonized them with pleasure, and taking into account the fact that the monks wrote the annals, many facts were completely perverted beyond recognition.

                  Do you think these Russian people were atheists?
                  What a naive you are.


                  that the monks wrote the chronicles, many facts were perverted beyond recognition.

                  It is possible that embellished. But to claim that they perverted, and even in the form of slogans ... with this to you on the Maidan! It’s fashionable there now.



                  Many oligarchs and criminal authorities have their own private chapels in the precincts, but they were not consecrated by atheists!

                  If those are on personal sites, then obviously they have no relationship with the Russian Orthodox Church. In the span with an agitukha. The receivers of the Maidan-Swamp will not work here
                  At the expense of "perverted beyond recognition" with etm you on the swamp. There it rolls


                  However, I have nothing against Vera - you want to believe it, but why mix the church and the state together? This is a direct path to religious enmity.

                  This is another anti-clerical delirium and horror stories a la Navalny and So with the Makarevichs, Shenderovichs and so on. Russophobia, not missing the opportunity to spit in the direction of Russian Orthodoxy.
                  And you use these methods with pleasure, which just characterizes you.
                  Even here they did not miss the opportunity to spit in the direction of the Church and kindle srach.
                  Significantly!
                  1. S_mirnov
                    S_mirnov 24 March 2014 20: 22
                    +4
                    Quote: GreatRussia
                    Do you think these Russian people were atheists?

                    Rather, atheists for putting knowledge at the forefront.
                    Quote: GreatRussia
                    At the expense of "perverted beyond recognition" with etm you on the swamp. There it rolls

                    And what were the disputes of religious people and atheists in the swamp? And on the account of Russian history — here I have big doubts about Rurik — the Norman, the Tatar-Mongol yoke, and the baptism of Russia also have many questions.
                    1. Darek
                      Darek 24 March 2014 20: 47
                      +1
                      Quote: S_mirnov
                      And what were the disputes of religious people and atheists in the swamp? And on the account of Russian history — here I have big doubts about Rurik — the Norman, the Tatar-Mongol yoke, and the baptism of Russia also have many questions.


                      Rurik - Norman ???? This is strong! Where did it come from? Just do not nod in the annals. There is no such thing there.
                      Want some advice? Stop smoking ... what do you smoke there and switch to regular tobacco.
                      Do you have big doubts about the yoke? Hmm yes...
                      Well, if you yourself don’t smoke, then stop reading Fomenko’s stubborn associates. Maybe better than Gumilyov? AND?
                      And for the baptism of Russia, what questions ??? There everything is clearer than clear!
                    2. GreatRussia
                      GreatRussia 24 March 2014 20: 54
                      0
                      Quote: S_mirnov
                      Rather, atheists for putting knowledge at the forefront.

                      This is a lie. An adequate atheist does not separate believing scientists and does not seize the knowledge and discoveries that were made by believers.
                2. Darek
                  Darek 24 March 2014 20: 41
                  0
                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  However, I have nothing against Vera - you want to believe it, but why mix the church and the state together? This is a direct path to religious enmity.


                  What a strange one you are.
                  For a thousand years, the Church and the state were united and there was no religious enmity. And then suddenly it appears? What is the binge?
                  Probably only from yours.
      2. polite people
        polite people 24 March 2014 19: 32
        +2
        Speech is insane in its heart there is no God. Even the President does not touch this topic. Ah ah ah . So big and you say that. minus
        1. s1н7т
          s1н7т 24 March 2014 20: 03
          +2
          Quote: polite people
          there is no God in his heart

          So in the heart there should be nothing but blood laughing Just like in the head - nothing but the brain. True, this does not affect the presence of mind. laughing
      3. w2000
        w2000 24 March 2014 19: 37
        +1
        That’s with the current dominance of obscurantists, brainwashing of Christian and Muslim opium from the school bench - is absolutely necessary.
        1. GreatRussia
          GreatRussia 24 March 2014 19: 41
          0
          That’s with the current dominance of obscurantists, brainwashing of Christian and Muslim opium from the school bench - is absolutely necessary.

          Anti-religious opium brain eaten?
          1. Native grandfather
            Native grandfather 24 March 2014 20: 08
            +3
            Quote: GreatRussia
            Anti-religious opium brain eaten?

            And here I ate. Back in the USSR. And all his school years was a burning atheist. But it so happened that he spent a lot of time hiking. Learned to communicate with nature. He became a pagan (if you can call it that). But, as it turns out, this does not change the essence of faith and commandments.
        2. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 24 March 2014 19: 46
          -2
          Quote: w2000
          That’s with the current dominance of obscurantists, brainwashing of Christian and Muslim opium from the school bench - is absolutely necessary.

          Faith for power is always more profitable than knowledge, for whoever preaches is right, and who decides to preach to the people before the people.
          1. GreatRussia
            GreatRussia 24 March 2014 19: 53
            +5
            Quote: S_mirnov
            Faith for power is always more profitable than knowledge, for whoever preaches is right, and who decides to preach to the people before the people.

            Power, and any power, always tries to use what is holy to man. Be it faith in a brighter future or religious beliefs. And what?

            Atheist, Nobel laureate, communist, legislative representative Zhores Alferov:
            1. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 24 March 2014 20: 09
              +1
              Quote: GreatRussia
              Power, and any power, always tries to use what is holy to man. Be it faith in a brighter future or religious beliefs. And what?

              I simply believe that the bright future of the People is created by the hands and deeds of the People and, of course, by the leaders of the people, and not by prayers in religious centers. You need to pray - take and pray, why plant it at the state level.
              1. GreatRussia
                GreatRussia 24 March 2014 20: 22
                0
                Quote: S_mirnov
                I simply believe that the bright future of the People is created by the hands and deeds of the People and, of course, by the leaders of the people, and not by prayers in religious centers.

                I also think, especially if you replace the word prayer with anti-religious mantras in your proposal.


                You need to pray - take and pray, why plant it at the state level.

                at the state level, no one is planting. This agitukha rolls on maydapahs and swamps.
                Running to the Nemtsovs with the Sobchaks, they have this slogan among the hamsters-adherents rolls with a bang.
              2. Darek
                Darek 24 March 2014 20: 52
                0
                Quote: S_mirnov
                You need to pray - take and pray, why plant it at the state level.


                And you are already being planted, right?
                Wow! And can you find out exactly where they are planting? I would love to come see!
          2. cerko
            cerko 24 March 2014 20: 05
            +2
            faith at all times first of all carried knowledge, but nowadays it saves us from all kinds of buggers and take it off
            1. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 24 March 2014 20: 17
              -1
              Quote: cerko
              faith at all times primarily brought knowledge,

              Cognition carries the search for a new one, doubt about the correctness of the existing, as part of the movement forward! Faith is dogmatic, it is even called - faith! Taking on faith is what authorities say. You probably know about Bruno and Copernicus? The Inquisition is also probably not news.
              1. GreatRussia
                GreatRussia 24 March 2014 20: 34
                0
                Quote: S_mirnov
                . You probably know about Bruno and Copernicus?

                Which suffered because they switched from knowledge to the planting of mysticism among the people with occultism and so on. etc., history should be studied, and not taken for granted that which you put into your head with anti-religious mantras.
                1. Darek
                  Darek 24 March 2014 21: 01
                  0
                  Quote: GreatRussia
                  Which suffered because they switched from knowledge to the planting of mysticism among the people with occultism and so on. etc., history should be studied, and not taken for granted that which you put into your head with anti-religious mantras.


                  Bruno is yes.
                  Copernicus has absolutely nothing to do with it.
                  1. GreatRussia
                    GreatRussia 24 March 2014 21: 20
                    0
                    Quote: Darek
                    Bruno is yes.
                    Copernicus has absolutely nothing to do with it.

                    Absolutely right. He died his death.
                2. S_mirnov
                  S_mirnov 24 March 2014 22: 05
                  -2
                  Quote: GreatRussia
                  history must be studied

                  So share your knowledge!
                  Quote: GreatRussia
                  and not take on faith what you have been put into the head with anti-religious mantras.

                  laughing anti-religious mantras - is it like an atheistic prayer? laughing
              2. Darek
                Darek 24 March 2014 20: 59
                0
                Quote: S_mirnov
                Cognition carries the search for a new one, doubt about the correctness of the existing, as part of the movement forward! Faith is dogmatic, it is even called - faith! Taking on faith is what authorities say. You probably know about Bruno and Copernicus? The Inquisition is also probably not news.


                Here I agree! Cognition really carries in itself the search for the new and doubt about the correctness of the existing. Only "existing" what?
                Existing knowledge?
                Easy! Here is a new knowledge for you personally:
                1. Giordano Bruno burned quite rightly. Tired for.
                2. Copernicus spent almost his entire life in church positions and died of a stroke at the age of 70.
                3. And the Inquisition was, if not the most, then one of the healthiest and most necessary institutions in Western Europe. I can prove, as they say, "with numbers in hand."
                1. S_mirnov
                  S_mirnov 24 March 2014 21: 12
                  0
                  Quote: Darek
                  And the Inquisition was, if not the most, then one of the healthiest and most necessary institutions in Western Europe. I can prove, as they say, "with numbers in hand."

                  Very interesting, you can just give a link to the materials. I am pleased to read. I like to learn new things.
                  1. Darek
                    Darek 24 March 2014 22: 25
                    0
                    You are welcome. I do not mind.
                    Here is a link to my articles: http://magic.grimuar.info/history/.
                    In this section you will find three essays on the Inquisition.
                    As they say on the Internet "a lot of bukoff", but nothing, I think you can master it.
                  2. Lazy
                    Lazy 25 March 2014 00: 38
                    +1
                    Find Kuraev’s notes on the subject on the Internet. He very well analyzed all this and most fully proved that SCIENCE without this inquisition could not have arisen. Those. the emergence of a scientific method (i.e., a method of evidence and not blind acceptance for faith) owes EXACTLY Christianity. In paganism and eastern philosophical teachings, there were only nonsense and opinions. And the scientific method appeared precisely in Christian Europe and Christian Russia (this is already about Lomonosov, who also founded the Christian University)
            2. s1н7т
              s1н7т 24 March 2014 20: 22
              +3
              Quote: cerko
              faith at all times brought knowledge first and foremost

              This is a rare nonsense, dear! Religion / faith NEVER contributed to knowledge. Remember, at least, J. Bruno - all that he learned from adherents is how it feels to be burned alive. Fucking knowledge! laughing
              1. GreatRussia
                GreatRussia 24 March 2014 20: 57
                0
                Quote: c1n7
                Quote: cerko
                faith at all times brought knowledge first and foremost

                This is a rare nonsense, dear! Religion / faith NEVER contributed to knowledge. Remember, at least, J. Bruno - all that he learned from adherents is how it feels to be burned alive. Fucking knowledge! laughing

                Rare delirium. First, they burned him not for knowledge. Secondly, it is the Western Catholic Inquisition.
                Thirdly, we do not take into account the persecution of genetics and cybernetics by the atheists.
              2. Darek
                Darek 24 March 2014 21: 04
                +1
                Interestingly, have you ever wondered what Bruno learned from other adepts? What did he preach? What was he writing about?
                By the way, they didn’t burn him alive, but they strangled him before the burn.
                I don’t understand one thing, what have suffered with him for 8 years? I would not have the patience. Still, the patient people were the Inquisitors.
    2. Native grandfather
      Native grandfather 24 March 2014 20: 02
      0
      Quote: saag
      Next in line is "Voroshilovsky shooter"

      Well, if they also give a "arrow", then my youngest will continue the family tradition. We will have four badges in the family! Before the MC in the spring, a pair of glasses was not enough for her. In the summer he goes to "Russia".
  3. svetlomor
    svetlomor 24 March 2014 18: 52
    +4
    The USSR is just around the corner.
    1. Interface
      Interface 24 March 2014 18: 53
      +12
      More precisely the USSR 2.0
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 24 March 2014 19: 13
        -1
        Quote: Interface
        More precisely the USSR 2.0

        Of course 2,0; After all, the Soviet Union with the oligarchs, bankers and governors of millionaires is somehow insanely.
        And the GTO brand is a good PR move. Raises the rating, however. wink
        1. svetlomor
          svetlomor 24 March 2014 19: 24
          +2
          Yes, much higher rating to raise.
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 24 March 2014 19: 33
            0
            Quote: svetlomor
            Yes, much higher rating to raise.

            So I'm not talking about the Levado rating, but about the real support of the people. And then our government is more than the United States, afraid of a referendum in our country. Those. of your own People. wink Yet in armored Mercedes, but with blocked roads ride. Private security and four-meter fences around the villas.
            1. svetlomor
              svetlomor 24 March 2014 19: 56
              0
              Well, not in rags and on a cart, the government should dissect, but with the policy that Putin is now pursuing, his enemies have increased many times, only this one ... with a scythe promised to shoot him.
              1. s1н7т
                s1н7т 24 March 2014 20: 10
                +1
                Quote: svetlomor
                Well, not in rags and on a cart, power should dissect

                Huh? Power should not live / eat / drink / ride better than the people for the benefit of which it seems to be working! am Salaries of officials should be at the level of average salaries in the region / country. The same is with transport, and with villas behind the fence - at best ZIL / Chaika and 6 acres! Otherwise, this power does not reflect the aspirations of the people.
                1. S_mirnov
                  S_mirnov 24 March 2014 20: 27
                  -3
                  Quote: c1n7
                  Otherwise, this power does not reflect the aspirations of the people.

                  The authorities will not express the aspirations of the people, until it depends on the people. Now this feedback is not. The people can’t influence the authorities and deputies in any way. And in order not to influence certain individuals, armored cars, private security companies and 4-meter fences are needed.
        2. Angry reader
          Angry reader 24 March 2014 19: 29
          +2
          Delirium is not delirium, everything has its time ... Read the story and everything will fall into place ... From time to time all the problems from ignorance and unwillingness to remember your Clio ...
          A period called the NEP, doesn’t tell you anything ?? ..)
  4. Prometheus
    Prometheus 24 March 2014 18: 53
    +3
    Are there those on the site who caught the TRP in Soviet times? Tell the young how it was.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 24 March 2014 18: 56
      +10
      Quote: Prometheus
      Are there those on the site who caught the TRP in Soviet times? Tell the young how it was.

      request and what to tell? We didn’t drink beer, smoked “on the sly”, did all kinds of sports, passed the norms and received badges! something like this...
      1. bubalik
        bubalik 24 March 2014 19: 34
        +6
        Andrey Yurievich (4) SU  Today, 18: 56
        and what to tell? did not drink beer, smoked "on the sly", did all kinds of sports

        ,,, for sure, but in front of the girls they boasted not with a cool phone, but with exercises on the horizontal bar ,,, yes
        1. nahalenok911
          nahalenok911 24 March 2014 19: 48
          +3
          And the farther the girl jumped, the more attractive she was ..
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    2. wulf66
      wulf66 24 March 2014 19: 00
      +10
      Yes, it was normal ... it was NORMAL, i.e. was considered the norm. Golden time was in this regard ... sections of boxing, fencing, athletics, flying club ... (listed where he went) AND EVERYTHING FOR FREE !!! And in the school of passing the TRP standards, they were guidelines for the coaches of the youth sports school (children's and youth sports schools).
    3. Native grandfather
      Native grandfather 24 March 2014 20: 16
      +4
      It was awesome. Rise at 6 in the morning (without kicks from parents) with the anthem of the USSR and running to the school stadium. Jogging, charging. Then home, shower, breakfast and school. Behind athletics, skiing, swimming, volleyball, karting, motocross. And in the yard with the boys there is still football and tennis. And that’s all in school years. For us (the boys of our class) the TRP badge of the II degree was like a cripple label.
      In, still remembered. Sometimes in the evenings from nothing to do with friends they could arrange a cross across the floor of the city back and forth for an hour and a half. There were no computers. )))
    4. Simon
      Simon 24 March 2014 20: 21
      +4
      As I was taught during the Union to shoot from a small-caliber rifle, I still shoot perfectly and go hunting. We ran skiing, there was no skating then, cross-country skiing, hiking, climbing mountains, orienteering, singing songs with guitars by the fire and generally having fun. There was neither drunkenness, nor drug addiction and the children grew up healthy, developed and strong. yes
      1. Native grandfather
        Native grandfather 24 March 2014 20: 50
        +2
        Quote: Simon
        There was neither drunkenness, nor drug addiction and the children grew up healthy, developed and strong.

        That really is. For some reason, all of us (propaganda) are trying to convince us that we, Russian men, are drunkards.
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    6. siberalt
      siberalt 24 March 2014 22: 40
      +1
      The TRP program was three-stage in age. She entered physical education classes at schools, colleges and universities. Running, jumping, push-ups, pulling up, throwing a grenade, shooting with small-caliber weapons and all that by the standards. They handed over everything (fit for health), like tests in school subjects. The army already had a VSK (military sports complex), also of three categories. Well, whoever came out better and had a desire to play sports, went to sports sections, children's sports schools and trade union industry clubs.
  5. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam 24 March 2014 18: 54
    +6
    Declaration of intent. The direction is correct, but no concrete steps have been seen yet. Once they raised such a topic, they could describe in more detail what the government plans to do in this direction. Now "fives" in the diary will not force anyone to strain. I don't see a general idea. TRP - it was part of the system, not a separate feature.
    1. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 24 March 2014 19: 24
      +3
      Quote: MainBeam
      I don’t see the general idea. TRP - this was part of the system, not a separate piece.

      Look at the root! Somehow badly this undertaking is combined with the liquidation of rural schools and hospitals.
      1. Native grandfather
        Native grandfather 24 March 2014 20: 26
        0
        Quote: S_mirnov
        Look at the root! Somehow badly this undertaking is combined with the liquidation of rural schools and hospitals.

        The elimination of rural schools. That sounds awful. But when, due to the turnover of the population from the countryside, only three classes of students remain in the school (from the 1st to the 11th), then these children are transferred to study at the district school. And they also allocate a bus for this.
        This is the reason for the closure of some schools and the completion of others. Children on the street do not stay. I observe it with my own eyes, because I bought a house in the village and bring up grandchildren. wink
        I won’t tell you about hospitals. There is no need to address them yet. Pah, pah, pah ...
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 24 March 2014 20: 30
          0
          Quote: Native grandfather
          But when, due to the turnover of the population from the countryside, only three classes of students remain in the school (from the 1st to the 11th), then these children are transferred to study at the district school.

          Are they also transporting a doctor to the area of ​​patients?
          1. Native grandfather
            Native grandfather 24 March 2014 20: 57
            0
            Quote: S_mirnov
            Are they also transporting a doctor to the area of ​​patients?

            And in the villages of hospitals, there never was. Current paramedic points. There was always one hospital in the area. District But I won’t say how things are in our hospital. Because :
            Quote: Native grandfather
            I won’t tell you about hospitals. There is no need to address them yet. Ugh, ugh, ugh ..

            There were only three schools in our village. It became one and a half. For that, another kindergarten was opened for 6 full groups. Fifth already.
    2. Mainbeam
      Mainbeam 24 March 2014 19: 43
      +2
      This episode fits well with the theory that was discussed in a recent article:
      "Sunday feuilleton. News the people dream about"

      Want summer time? Please, the government is coming to meet you. Now you want winter? And again, the ministers will decide in your favor. One gets the impression: everything that the people want is immediately fulfilled. Although in reality, only that which cannot harm the control system is executed. As a result, the government is recognized as effective, and the people are divided into two parts - in our last example, opponents and supporters of summer or winter time. A third fragment of society appears - those who want the hands on the clock, as before, to be translated twice a year. And again, some demands begin, people complain of insomnia, rhythm malfunctions, and even cancer. And so without end. This is a circular, closed process. A kind of perpetual motion machine of domestic politics.


      State managers are able to maintain and even increase the resistance of the management system to various negative impacts. The impact of the environment in one place is compensated by the impact in a dozen directions. While people, exerting pressure on the system, require the clock to be moved, state management, triggering a response signal, adds a few more distracting influences to it: for example, through the Duma, in the form of restrictive laws or amendments, ideas about the inadmissibility of adopting children by Americans, about combating pedophiles , homosexuals, about the inadmissibility of insults to religion, about changes to the law on the media, about blocking sites where they write about methods of suicide, and so on.

      Society is no longer split into half and a third, but into ever smaller parts. Fragmentation of society is the key to a successful and lasting power, maintained through the constant excitement of the masses, whose energy switches to practically non-existent fronts of struggle. Do you understand? There are no fronts, there is a struggle

      As written spari. The rating is growing, people are supporting.
      Something beautiful was declared from the Soviet past - the people are only "FOR"!
      A live result?
  6. andrei332809
    andrei332809 24 March 2014 18: 54
    +5
    good start. but as if on the ground (even under the nose of the Kremlin) they didn’t do everything through the anal. we can
    1. alone
      alone 24 March 2014 19: 03
      +3
      Quote: andrei332809
      good start. but as if on the ground (even under the nose of the Kremlin) they didn’t do everything through the anal. we can


      Today's youth will not please the breastplate.
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 24 March 2014 19: 10
        +1
        Quote: lonely
        Today's youth will not be pleased with the badge

        yes how to say ... it will distinguish him from others. and if it’s normal to explain that something good will stand out, and not beings ... I think they will stretch. of course, much is lost, but not all the same jaguars whip
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 24 March 2014 19: 29
          +2
          Quote: andrei332809
          yes how to say ... it will distinguish him from others. and if you explain normally

          Yeah, the domestic media will explain to them. Yes, and before my eyes - the owners of life such as Deripaska and Abramovich with yachts, kursavels and busses buses. All paths are open - work and defend!
          The system of the socialist state must be revived, not promoted on Soviet brands!
          1. saag
            saag 24 March 2014 20: 14
            0
            Quote: S_mirnov
            The system of the socialist state must be revived

            That's for sure, only probably in the new edition, updated and supplemented :-)
            1. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 24 March 2014 20: 31
              0
              Quote: saag
              That's for sure, only probably in the new edition, updated and supplemented :-)

              Undoubtedly. Returning to the old is not an option. It is necessary to take into account the lessons of the past and realize the experience gained during the time of turmoil!
          2. s1н7т
            s1н7т 24 March 2014 20: 30
            +1
            Quote: S_mirnov
            The system of the socialist state must be revived

            Are you encroaching on the "holy"? Prokhorov said loudly on TV - if they try to nationalize property, they will flood the whole country with blood, if sclerosis doesn't lie to me. So socialism is no longer in our lifetime, alas.
        2. Leshka Chuvash
          Leshka Chuvash 24 March 2014 19: 29
          +4
          I agree. One remark is now fashionable to be healthy among young people (in the good sense of the word). It seems to me with a good organization that you will agree sometimes this happens with us), everything will turn out
        3. nahalenok911
          nahalenok911 24 March 2014 19: 52
          +2
          My daughter received the "Gifted Child" and "Hope of Russia" badges. VERY proud of it!
      2. cerko
        cerko 24 March 2014 20: 09
        0
        and if the badge becomes fashionable ...
      3. Egoza
        Egoza 24 March 2014 20: 13
        +1
        Quote: lonely
        Today's youth will not please the breastplate.

        So propaganda in the media is needed! "To have a TRP badge is cool! This is honor and respect! These are real men, not squishy ones! And girls have them too? That's YES! That's super!" Well, something like this hi
  7. operator35
    operator35 24 March 2014 18: 55
    +6
    I’ll go to take the standards and I will proudly wear the badge so that the iPhone youth is jealous)))
  8. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov 24 March 2014 18: 59
    +4
    Very very correct. And the lightning starts to start
  9. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 24 March 2014 18: 59
    +1
    Quote: saag
    The Voroshilovsky shooter and the Osoaviakhim society are next in turn :-)

    It's time, it's time to get ready to meet the enemy!
  10. propolsky
    propolsky 24 March 2014 19: 01
    +2
    It is better to decipher the abbreviations, otherwise our American "friends" will again be frightened: "What else has Putit invented to revive?"
    1. bubalik
      bubalik 24 March 2014 19: 40
      +4

      propolsky SU  Today, 19: 01


      It is better to decipher the abbreviations, otherwise our American "friends" will again be frightened: "What else has Putit invented to revive?"

      ,,, let’s break their heads ,,, laughing
      1. Metlik
        Metlik 24 March 2014 20: 40
        +1
        "Instead of OK - That's right." The translation is not entirely correct. Better: GDP - Everything is OK!
      2. Fanat1984
        Fanat1984 25 March 2014 00: 59
        0
        TT (join) !!!
      3. Victor1
        Victor1 25 March 2014 10: 25
        0
        Instead of American ok, normal people speak Russian well and other derivatives of this meaning.
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  11. mamont5
    mamont5 24 March 2014 19: 03
    +3
    To revive sports sections, then at the Olympics the results all the time will be stable not at the expense of the legionnaires. We need to raise our champions, and this is possible only from childhood.
    Also revive in schools the lessons of initial military training. To introduce military lessons in technical schools and universities - to train military specialists.
  12. Yuri Sev Caucasus
    Yuri Sev Caucasus 24 March 2014 19: 03
    +4
    It’s good that there will be something for young people to do, My son has been working with me for 8 years. I’ll teach you to shoot and give it to fight. Let a worthy change grow!
    1. Tretyakov
      Tretyakov 24 March 2014 19: 52
      +5
      Still really family dependent! I have a daughter with her boyfriend in the photo!
  13. Ivan Tucha
    Ivan Tucha 24 March 2014 19: 03
    +2
    It’s high time, and the youth - droshing with drool.
  14. skyil
    skyil 24 March 2014 19: 04
    +2
    It’s high time, and sometimes they can’t catch up even once, what the hell defense! Yes, there was a lot of good things at the Union for Children, why not return what is useful ?!
    1. Yuri Sev Caucasus
      Yuri Sev Caucasus 24 March 2014 20: 48
      +1
      mine is pulled 10 times, is wrung out on one hand to a weight, it gets used to, Only now with a stretch it does not work out yet :(
  15. Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx 24 March 2014 19: 05
    +2
    It was high time. Young people have physical degradation.
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 24 March 2014 20: 33
      0
      Quote: Bob0859
      Youth has physical degradation

      This is the result of the mental degradation of their parents - no TRP will help here, is it really not clear?
    2. s1н7т
      s1н7т 24 March 2014 20: 33
      0
      Quote: Bob0859
      Youth has physical degradation

      This is the result of the mental degradation of their parents - no TRP will help here, is it really not clear?
  16. Sledgehammer
    Sledgehammer 24 March 2014 19: 06
    -9
    And what else to expect from former members of the CPSU, nostalgia for the USSR is flourishing :)
    It is important, of course, the health of young people, but the quality of the products would not interfere
    seriously deal with how many years they have been talking about this, because the chemistry is continuous.
    1. rauffg
      rauffg 24 March 2014 19: 10
      0
      Troll, don’t ...?
      1. Sledgehammer
        Sledgehammer 24 March 2014 19: 45
        0
        Troll, don’t ...?

        And you, no?
      2. Sledgehammer
        Sledgehammer 24 March 2014 19: 48
        0
        Why do you ask ?
  17. spirit
    spirit 24 March 2014 19: 07
    +4
    "Ready for Labor and Defense

  18. Hans51
    Hans51 24 March 2014 19: 07
    +7
    Thank you for your childhood in the USSR and thanks to Putin for the return of our traditions!
  19. Arh
    Arh 24 March 2014 19: 08
    +4
    Well done ! Great! Continue VV Putin in the same vein! ! !
  20. Gagarin
    Gagarin 24 March 2014 19: 09
    +8
    The next "ZARNITSA", "EAGLE".
    1. Native grandfather
      Native grandfather 24 March 2014 20: 40
      +1
      Quote: Gagarin
      The next "ZARNITSA", "EAGLE".

      Then school propaganda brigades and Komsomol construction teams. Oh, nostalgia! )))
  21. fomich1977
    fomich1977 24 March 2014 19: 10
    +2
    undoubtedly a necessary and good thing! and now all some metrosexuals and other "supporters of same-sex marriages". although this should have been done for a long time!
  22. Kurkin
    Kurkin 24 March 2014 19: 11
    +2
    Great, it's time!
  23. ZU-23
    ZU-23 24 March 2014 19: 13
    +2
    Well done Vladimirovich! health and labor will grind all diseases, and the one who whines will still say thank you. I remember in the 3rd grade I pushed a 40kg bar, and now Dodiki and not everyone will push in front of the army, pimple gadgets. Although after the recent Olympics, things have already begun to improve.
  24. konvalval
    konvalval 24 March 2014 19: 17
    0
    Quote: MainBeam
    Declaration of intent. The direction is correct, but no concrete steps have been seen yet. Once they raised such a topic, they could describe in more detail what the government plans to do in this direction. Now "fives" in the diary will not force anyone to strain. I don't see a general idea. TRP - it was part of the system, not a separate feature.

    Yeah, the President said today, and tomorrow you have a plan for approval. Or today?
  25. Viacheslav
    Viacheslav 24 March 2014 19: 17
    -3
    The name is not very apt - TRP. Many young people can be scared off by the "soviet" term. And so it's a good thing!
    1. Hans51
      Hans51 24 March 2014 19: 21
      +5
      What can scare him off? From the brilliant sporting achievements of your country in history? You are not right!
      1. Viacheslav
        Viacheslav 24 March 2014 19: 29
        0
        The meaning of the phrase "Ready for work and defense" for young people is preparation for military operations and work, there is not a hint of sports. For young people unfamiliar with the terms of the USSR, this does not sound very attractive.
        1. Native grandfather
          Native grandfather 24 March 2014 20: 43
          0
          Quote: Viacheslav
          For young people unfamiliar with the terms of the USSR, this does not sound very attractive.

          Their parents are an example to them or grandfathers.
    2. Tretyakov
      Tretyakov 24 March 2014 19: 55
      +3
      Children have long been waiting for this! And the term is correct if the parents spoke correctly about the USSR!
    3. Fanat1984
      Fanat1984 25 March 2014 00: 57
      +1
      Are you a stupid person? Young people are just vintage and attractive! Among other things, young people want to feel for themselves what grandmothers and grandfathers tell them with nostalgia!
      1. Viacheslav
        Viacheslav 25 March 2014 18: 22
        0
        As for the stupid person - I have two degrees in one of the best universities in Moscow, a high average mark and a good job.

        As for young people, I myself am young people and all my acquaintances are also young people, my grandparents did not tell anyone about the TRP. And the first reaction to the abbreviation TRP is negative, although at the same time everyone is involved in sports, including me.
  26. Rinat1972
    Rinat1972 24 March 2014 19: 19
    +2
    when the demobilization was not far off, we really wanted to get the TRP badge of the first degree.
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 24 March 2014 20: 37
      +1
      Quote: Rinat1972
      when the demobilization was not far off, we really wanted to get the TRP badge of the first degree

      Gee! You do not confuse the TRP and VSK? laughing
  27. Siberian19
    Siberian19 24 March 2014 19: 24
    +1
    Comrades, historical events were needed comrades, the Olympics were needed as a push, as the realization that we are a great nation and it is worthless for us to leave for the back of history!
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 24 March 2014 20: 40
      +1
      Quote: Siberian19
      the olympiad was needed as a push

      What a word - "push"! laughing
      And so I didn't need a raspiliada for "realizing", I felt fine without it.
  28. horoh
    horoh 24 March 2014 19: 33
    +1
    Quote: serega.fedotov
    And the lightning starts to start

    Zarnitsa, this is cool, still yearning for the time when they were scampering through the forests !!!
  29. Filand
    Filand 24 March 2014 19: 34
    +2
    Here it would still be in schools to restore the NVP, the foundations of the defense of the homeland should be vaccinated from a young age
  30. Orenburg
    Orenburg 24 March 2014 19: 35
    0
    Quote: Rinat1972
    when the demobilization was not far off, we really wanted to get the TRP badge of the first degree.

    I confirm! And this badge was not a worthless trinket! Sneakers could buy any dohlyak, in the presence of money, but the TRP would not give up a dohlyak!
  31. Leshka
    Leshka 24 March 2014 19: 35
    +1
    correct decree
  32. Chifka
    Chifka 24 March 2014 19: 38
    +5
    I would also return the Soviet education system, the best in the world, and Soviet textbooks, removing politics from them and leaving the essence. Then this country is definitely not to defeat anyone.
  33. plut-k
    plut-k 24 March 2014 19: 39
    +3
    yes it’s better late than never before to return GOSTs
  34. IsailoR
    IsailoR 24 March 2014 19: 43
    0
    Hmm, I looked at Wiki.
    I would hand over the gold badge calmly at my age. 36 years - IV stage (Though not with honors - because I’m floating slowly, and I’m not sure that I’ll throw it at 40m). There is even a sports category in tourism :)))
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 24 March 2014 22: 07
      0
      Quote: IsailoR
      Hmm, looked at the wiki

      He also looked - I’m a gentleman of the golden badge, however! Well, really, I don’t know how to swim, the rest is almost 5 times. However, in the Higher School of Higher Education it did not stop the tests laughing But this is what the TRP means, then VSK, then the rest - I go to the gym, I carry the weight like everyone else, and there it’s basically 2 times younger. So Soviet physical culture rules!
  35. Michael_59
    Michael_59 24 March 2014 19: 44
    +1
    Yes sir! That's just hoopoes from administrations and dumas they sold all the land for housing and commercial construction - instead of squares-parks-stadiums, monolithic-frame crap.
  36. storm wind
    storm wind 24 March 2014 19: 45
    0
    In a healthy body healthy mind! Still to accustom people to a healthy diet .. so that no GMOs!
  37. Native grandfather
    Native grandfather 24 March 2014 19: 47
    0
    Hooray !! Finally they heard me in the government !!!! Now it remains to shout with education !!! And then it will be possible not to worry about the health of my growing grandchildren and their consciousness. smile
    1. saag
      saag 24 March 2014 20: 16
      +1
      Quote: Native grandfather
      Now it remains to shout with education !!!

      Recently read, Churov expressed the opinion that it is necessary to return to the Soviet education system
  38. SLOVO
    SLOVO 24 March 2014 19: 54
    +3
    Great news! And then wherever you look, then with a cigarette, then with a can of yagi youth.
  39. Ilotan
    Ilotan 24 March 2014 19: 55
    0
    Quote: lonely
    Today's youth will not please the breastplate.

    I don’t know, I don’t know, mine rejoice.
  40. ser fuz
    ser fuz 24 March 2014 19: 59
    +1
    It proves once again that in the USSR there were many thoughtful and useful ideas and laws, and a number of them need to be returned.
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 24 March 2014 20: 42
      0
      Quote: ser fuz
      in the USSR there were many thoughtful and useful ideas and laws, and a number of them need to be returned

      Only together with the USSR! In the cap. Country it will be just profanity.
  41. shatu
    shatu 24 March 2014 19: 59
    +5
    Great news!
    I propose that Sergey Badyuk be held responsible for the TRP, and Denis Minin as his deputy. He needs to be pulled out of Ukraine, he really did a lot for the development of sports not only in Ukraine, but also in the former Soviet republics. Thanks to him, dozens of sports grounds appeared in Ukraine, not only in his native Dnepropetrovsk, but also in other cities of Ukraine.

    And mind you, he did all this without state. support, almost pure enthusiasm, only at the city level, he was given some support, mainly information.
    And if such enthusiasts have government support? Yes, they will do good good things!

    Workout is the so-called TRP!



  42. DAGESTAN333
    DAGESTAN333 24 March 2014 20: 11
    +2
    A serious redivision of the world is outlined. And Russia, as always, will have to act as the liquidator of the planetary problem. To do this, urgently need to increase the mobilization potential of the country.
  43. kelevra
    kelevra 24 March 2014 20: 12
    +2
    It's high time to tear the youth away from the damn computers! Previously, there were guys 2 by 2 and hardy as bulls in the army, but now they are a meter with a cap and smoky through! After a year of service, he is already "GRANDFATHER." forget the taste of my mother's pies. I absolutely support the state's desire to return such an event to our society. Only a lazy and flawed person can think that sports and physical activities are bullshit for nerds!
    1. Andrey from Tver
      Andrey from Tver 24 March 2014 21: 31
      +1
      Quote: kelevra
      It's high time to tear the youth away from the damn computers! Previously, there were guys 2 by 2 and hardy as bulls in the army, but now they are a meter with a cap and smoky through! After a year of service, he is already "MAE" forget the taste of mom's pies.

      I myself am now laughing at the former "recent grandfathers" (excuse me, guys). By the way, a year later he is not a "grandfather", but a "demobilization". Those who served in Soviet times, especially in serious troops, are immediately evident, strong guys, although they gained extra weight. And the current demobilization looks like some kind of drishch. Generation Pepsi and Snickers, their mother biomat.
  44. Diesel66
    Diesel66 24 March 2014 20: 15
    +4
    Will there be offsets for shooting? :-)
  45. shelva
    shelva 24 March 2014 20: 18
    0
    Yes, even OSOAVIAHIM, if only to raise a healthy generation of future defenders of the motherland.
  46. jagdpanzer
    jagdpanzer 24 March 2014 20: 19
    +2
    Minister of Sports of the Russian Federation Vitaly Mutko said that the implementation of the TRP complex in Russia will require about four years and 1,2 billion rubles.

    See the original material at http://www.interfax.ru/russia/366810
    This is from Interfax. I alone do not understand what to pay 1,2 billion ???? What is on the c / o.zly (does not miss, thinks scolding someone laughing ) and horizontal bars in schools ??? It seems to me that it’s time to drive Mutko out of sports! By the way, I would try to pass interestingly repeat
  47. Naum
    Naum 24 March 2014 20: 25
    0
    Quote: svetlomor
    The USSR is just around the corner.

    I would prefer Russia. The Russian Empire. "ChiChiChiPi" already existed and this artificial formation collapsed, having lost everything that the country was proud of for a thousand years. The heinous Bolshevik experiment on a great country will hiccup for a long time to come. "The road to hell is laid out with good intentions" - that's where we visited in the 90s. Now we are returning from there. God willing, we'll come back. And yet - you can't live without Vera. A person without Faith is an animal.
  48. tennis
    tennis 24 March 2014 20: 26
    +1
    Everything, as one for passing the standards of the TRP !!!
  49. Ivan 63
    Ivan 63 24 March 2014 20: 26
    +1
    It was great! AND EVERYTHING IS FREE!
    1. jagdpanzer
      jagdpanzer 24 March 2014 20: 30
      +1
      do not lie soda for 1 cop and 3 with syrup as I remember right now laughing
      1. tennis
        tennis 24 March 2014 20: 33
        0
        Quote: jagdpanzer
        do not lie soda for 1 cop and 3 with syrup as I remember right now


        You hit your fist and everything pours for free, if not with the money.
  50. Kornilovets
    Kornilovets 24 March 2014 20: 40
    +1
    Quote: shelva
    Yes, even OSOAVIAHIM, if only to raise a healthy generation of future defenders of the motherland.


    and che "though", too, does not hurt ....