Deja vu

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I am sitting at my computer and preparing a model of the antenna system to run the calculation. Then my monster will chew on the initial data for a few hours and as a result will generate radiation patterns and VSWR on all inputs. The processor in my computer is a 6-core processor with a clock frequency of 3 GHz and 24 GB of RAM. In a word - a monster. Although for him such calculations are at the limit of the possible. Sometimes you have to take several days without shutting down the computer at night. And it will be a shame if due to my fault an error creeps into the calculations, which you will learn about only after all the work has been completed, when the result flies to the basket. By the edge of my ear, I listen to a heated dispute at the neighboring tables, where my fellow antenniks are sitting.

They just got a call from the thematic department and were told that our antenna had failed at the plant in Dubna. The fault is not ours, while careless handling of workers during installation, the coaxial cable was torn off. Gradually, I got a strange feeling that all this was already happening, in one word - "deja vu".

40 years ago, then I - the young head of the department - managed to rush almost all over the Union and lead my team.Deja vu In some periods it reached up to four missions per month. Now you just wonder how you had enough strength for everything. And then there was no time to think, it was just necessary to make what was planned, and a point. The great cause of youth, unfortunately, you understand this after a heart attack on the eighth ten.

I often happened to be in Dubna on the well-known "Rainbow", where there were friendly relations with local antennchiki and specialists in fairing. In one of my tales, I have already mentioned this (see "The line between the antenna and the fairing"). And here in the next business trip I go from the administrative building to the "high zone", where the measurements were made on the microwave. Even from afar, I notice a fellow of the vocational school of shnogo age, who skips toward me, and in each hand he dangles along the antenna. These antennas are very well known to me, since I devoted a lot of strength together with my guys to their development. They are made according to the printed circuit, but thanks to a massive radio-transparent cover, their mass is about 2,5 kg. Under the terms of placement, the standard angular connector did not fit for them, and I had to develop a small-sized mounting unit, i.e. The coaxial cable around 0,5 m was attached to the antenna and was an integral part of it. And so the boy was dragging two such antennas, holding them by the cables that he wound on his hands so that the antennas would not drag on the ground. This barbarism, I could not stand.

“Well, wait, boy. Where are you carrying them?” - To the assembly shop .- “You were not told that you shouldn’t carry it that way. You will pull the cable out of the mount.” “Yes, nothing will be done to him, I’m not the first time to wear it.” “And no one stopped you?” “No, you are the first.” “Never do that again, hold the antennas by the case. Better yet, carry them in a container, each of the antennas has its own.” - So it's twice as hard. - “But it’s safer, I’ll see my ears again.”

Frustrated by what I saw, I decided to track down VAK, he was the highest boss I knew personally. Knocking on the door of his office and opening it, I was surprised by the expression on his face, as if a ghost was standing before him. "Where did you come from?" - Yes, I have the second day in your company, "An hour ago, I remembered you, I need it badly, and here you are right there, wonders and only." - Just help me first, restore order in the shops, while the antennas are not ruined. Then I told him about the picture. He visibly darkened, making notes in his notebook. "What are you talking about, and what will I ask you now, grow from one place - from our laxity". With these words, he took from the table almost the same antenna, about which I had just told him, but she did not have a radio-transparent cover and cable, as it was mounted on a monoblock. It was installed on another product, which I also had to tinker with. "I see what I learned, and now look closer and tell me, can this antenna work?"
He handed me the antenna and I gasped: half of the design was cut like a razor. "How did this happen?" I didn’t have to tell a lot: the same bungling that I just watched. When installing a monoblock, he stood on the guides crooked and rested against the edge of the hatch antenna. Instead of checking why he does not fall into place, they used all the evil power. As a result, the antenna is hopelessly damaged, its place in the marriage basket.

Having listened to me, Vladimir Antonovich knocked his fist on the table with annoyance. I cautiously pushed away, and he, noticing my movement, laughed: "Do you still remember?". It was about two months ago in the same office, where I am with the designer of our enterprise, PK He explained to him the reasons for the delay in the dimensional drawings of our altimeter, which delayed the release of design documentation on the Raduga. Wines, in general, was mutual, but my colleague wound up and accused local designers of ignorance. Here, the Ukrainian temperament of Vladimir Antonovich broke through with full force: "Yes, I still remember the Tenzoru enterprise (next to the Rainbow) enterprise, and then you dumped everything on others" and gasped the fist on the table. And on his desk lay a sheet of plexiglass fifteen millimeters thick. After such a blow, the plexiglas burst into several pieces, and we all froze, looking at the table. For half a minute there was complete silence, and then laughter began, and, moreover, Vladimir Antonovich began.

Immediately gloomy, VA explained why the matter is so serious. It turns out that one more launch was needed to complete the tests, for which they quickly prepared a rocket. Well, the rush led to a disastrous result. I already called your company, he told me, they promised to manufacture and deliver the quality control department and the customer there in a couple of weeks. And I don’t have these two weeks, in a maximum of five days there should be a launch, if we don’t have time, then you can take it slow. “But there is no antenna, instead a miserable stub.” And what do you have to do, so sit down and think, we’ll do everything you say. - Give half an hour, I will smoke, maybe I will think of it. - Smoke here - No, I will not poison you, I will come up in half an hour. Coming out of the administrative building, I walked to the smoking area, which was located in the shade of the trees. To be honest, the situation was awful, and it first occurred to me that V.A. only a couple of years older than me, and he has immeasurably more responsibility.

While I was smoking, the crazy thought “Or maybe try to restore the antenna?” Began to spin more and more, gradually I myself believed that this was possible. Returning to the office, I immediately announced that I was allowed to go to the laboratory where the plasma spraying unit was located. The fact is that several years ago specialists of this particular laboratory advised our technologists on mastering the methods of spraying printed antennas. I was also in this laboratory several times. Secondly, I asked to contact our company so that they could fax me a power of attorney for the right to sign instruments of acceptance of devices. Thirdly, on behalf of V.A. He called his colleagues in the antenna department and asked to prepare a panoramic installation Р2-35 or similar to configure the antenna. Needless to say, with the help of V.A. everything spun at breakneck speed.

After half an hour I was in the spraying laboratory, explaining to specialists what I needed. And it was necessary to put a picture from zinc to the working surface of the antenna. Stencil, of course, this was not, and I suggested to cut it out of the cardboard from the folder. The guys laughed, but made in my size very quickly. In their installation, instead of wire, zinc powder was fed into the burner, as a result, the applied pattern turned out to be very durable, the adhesion of the metal to the dielectric was excellent: the guys did their job perfectly well. True, the stencil was pressed with a gloved hand (so that the molten metal did not fall), so at the edges there was a metal falling outside the borders of the drawing. But it was already the little things that can be fixed when setting up. An hour later I was in the "high zone" where the installation of the Р2-35 was warming up.

Having made a cutter from a scalpel, similar to the one I worked with myself, I proceeded to tune the antenna. It was necessary to adjust the VSWR by gradually trimming the pattern to resonant dimensions. It was important not to hurry, check the VSWR more often, so as not to remove the excess, and then again you will have to sandblast and re-spray the metal. An hour later, the antenna was already in the electroplating shop for painting. They promised to return it to 9 in the morning of the next day. In the morning the antenna was already on the outside acceptance, everything went surprisingly smoothly. Then the representative of the customer intervened. "I close my eyes to the fact that the technological process is different from what is used at the manufacturing enterprise, but present the width of the directivity pattern and the gain factor to me." I had to take a half-day timeout to come up with a measurement technique. There should be no problems with the measuring equipment, but with a rotary device one had to invent something.

Thanks to VA I made an admission to the assembly shop, where I now headed. Almost immediately stumbled upon a rocket lodgment, i.e. slipway, which collect and transport products. He was on a wheel drive, so it can be quickly rolled to the side to install a tripod with a reference antenna at this place. It remains to figure out how to rotate the product around the longitudinal axis to determine the width of the chart in the plane of the roll. I tried with two hands to turn the product lying on the stocks. Alas, it did not move, in sight the mass was several hundred kilograms. Unmount the product into separate compartments and remove the equipment from them - this will probably be a week. It was necessary for something else. And then I remembered something similar that I was doing in my antenna room. Turning to the workshop worker accompanying me, I asked if it was possible to get a sheet of fluoroplastic 2 thick ... 3 mm. It turned out - no problem. Armed with scissors for metal, I immediately cut two strips wide
200 and 700 length mm. Clicking on the help of two workers, we lifted the product and placed the fluoroplastic sheets under the supporting surfaces. After that, with one hand in front of the public, I, without any difficulty, turned the whole product to 30 in both directions. This trick was done by all three of my assistants with visible pleasure. It took another fifteen minutes to draw a scale from a drawing paper with marks of one degree. It seems that we have prepared for the measurements. Having agreed on the delivery of the lodgement with the product, I went to the "high zone" to draw up a measurement procedure and coordinate it with the customer. Pore ​​and instrumentation to prepare.

Everything went surprisingly well and rather quickly. V.A. approached when the customer put his signature on the form. He went to the lodgement and turned the product. Then, jokingly, he told me: "Do you know what your invention will end with? The whole fluoroplast for boats will be dragged in the workshop." I did not understand what boats are talking about. “Didn’t you see sheds on the banks of the reservoir and the Volga River? There are also motors and boats stored there. And they pull them out of the water on the boards. It was evident that he was in a good mood, with no comparison yesterday. He asked me how long I would still be at their company. I replied that I was leaving the day after tomorrow. "We want to thank you, we will organize it and give it to your company?" I asked not to do this, because in essence I did what I should not have done. But to ensure that the antennas are treated carefully, I asked him again.

Since then, more than thirty years have passed. Both my company and Raduga have turned from Soviet enterprises into joint-stock companies and are now part of the Tactical Missile Weapons Corporation. Although in smaller quantities, but still we deliver the above antenna in the "Rainbow". By the way, the antenna cables have not been torn off until today, and here you are. I listen to the argument at the next table. There are already discussing the measures that need to be taken so that this does not happen again. The most popular is to put the portrait of Valuev on the antenna and the inscription "You will pull the cable, you will get!" The other is fool protection, i.e. secure the cable with the cable to prevent breakage. And finally, the latest version is to do nothing; the more the antennas are broken, the more profitable is the enterprise.

I do not interfere in the dispute, but if they ask me, I will answer that in our antennas we invest not only our knowledge, but also a part of the soul. To look indifferently how our creations are destroyed is criminal, and it is necessary to prevent it by any means.
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  1. +17
    25 March 2014 08: 27
    Yes, the old-school engineer is visible. hi
    1. +10
      25 March 2014 08: 43
      Quote: Nagan
      Yes, the old-school engineer is visible.

      Old RUSSIAN engineering school hi
      1. GRune
        +4
        25 March 2014 11: 48
        I know the city will be, I know the garden is blooming when there are such people in the Soviet country !!! How many of these, Soviet, still remain and whether such people will appear in modern Russia ...
    2. +8
      25 March 2014 08: 44
      Quote: Nagan
      old school

      The defense industry is still holding onto them.
      1. sq
        +7
        25 March 2014 12: 31
        Quote: PANZER
        The defense industry is still holding onto them.

        On such holds any production. Our common misfortune is NON-COMPLIANCE WITH TECHNOLOGY !!!!!!! Hence the low quality and so on.
      2. Russkiy53
        +1
        25 March 2014 14: 52
        "BYE" -there is the KEY word: (((!!!
    3. +4
      25 March 2014 09: 28
      I agree! hi Such an approach, ingenuity and not standard thinking, only among Russians.
      I read it in one go.
      1. +6
        25 March 2014 12: 00
        "Such an approach, ingenuity and not standard thinking, only in Russians."

        Such words and the situation described in the article are based primarily in nothing special, which is inherent only to us. And in the usual absence of CULTURE OF PRODUCTION. At all stages and in almost all industries of our long-suffering homeland.
        I think that well-trained German and other engineers, having worked in such conditions, would also have developed ingenuity. "The need for invention is cunning."
        As a young man, he worked at one purely civilian enterprise: you spend half of your working time "getting" blanks, of which half are defective. And then such a quality, even though weep and shame, although it’s not your fault either; raw materials, semi-finished products are of poor quality.
        Recently I talked with a man who was the head of a workshop at the Chelyabinsk metallurgical plant. He told how the Italians who assemble machines were shocked by the lack of this very "production culture".

        Oh, it's bitter and painful.
        Are you a special savvy .....
        But when all stages of production are set up as it should, then this ingenuity is not required, and you do not need to spend up to 50% of working and time resources on fixing jambs
        Yes, alas in modern times, only Russians have such an approach and ingenuity.
        Only the reasons are not in the super-mind, but in the mess in the head
    4. +2
      25 March 2014 11: 06
      Quote: Nagan
      Yes, the old-school engineer is visible. hi

      Panikovsky was moved. He took Balaganov to
      side and whispered respectfully:
      - You can immediately see a person from an early time. Such now
      already gone and will not be at all soon.

      Thanks, what else is there! And those who drag antennas over cables will always, unfortunately ...
      1. +1
        25 March 2014 20: 21
        Quote: Nayhas
        And those who drag antennas over cables will always, unfortunately ...

        You know, here we have a factory newspaper with memories of S.P. Korolev
        I don’t remember everything, but the essence is this: Korolev arrived at the assembly and watched as a young engineer dropped the key into the engine. The same thing followed: this eccentric was fired.
        On the same day, the upset eccentric was able to fix the joint of another person. The same thing followed: To leave this eccentric and to dismiss him
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    6. +3
      26 March 2014 00: 47
      Quote: Nagan
      Yes, the old-school engineer is visible. hi


      our astronomy teacher told us how they pinned on newcomers,
      when asked to walk along the corridor along the accelerator with a 40 watt light bulb in hand
      and she herself shone, faster you go, brighter than the light wassat
      "striking" example of electromagnetic induction
  2. +12
    25 March 2014 08: 43
    A breath of fresh air straight.
    After all the chernukha - Muzychka, fools, nationals, Radi-kala .... ours, including professors of MGIMO.
    ...
    Thanks to Gennady Mikhailovich. For optimism.
  3. +6
    25 March 2014 08: 46
    The processor in my computer is 6-core with a frequency of 3 GHz and 24 GB of RAM. In a word - a monster.

    I wonder what years the narrative)))
    1. +6
      25 March 2014 09: 25
      Quote: PANZER
      I wonder what years the narrative)))
      Yes, not so ancient, not so long ago a 1 GB hard drive was considered HUGE, and now ... I don’t even want to laugh.
  4. -3
    25 March 2014 09: 28
    Quote: PANZER
    The processor in my computer is 6-core with a frequency of 3 GHz and 24 GB of RAM. In a word - a monster.

    I wonder what years the narrative)))

    It is not clear why one should not buy a multiprocessor server for such things. It does not cost much more ....
    1. +2
      25 March 2014 19: 22
      Electrodynamic calculations are such a thing that even a server’s power is sometimes not enough.
      1. +8
        25 March 2014 20: 13
        Quote: alean245
        Electrodynamic calculations are such a thing that even a server’s power is sometimes not enough.

        Especially if the server is running Windows 8.

        In 1987, the calculation of a microstrip antenna on DVK2. Clock frequency 10 MHz, memory 64 Kb, two drives 360 MB, OS SJ RT. 128KB electronic drive. Calculation time 3-8 minutes. It was printed on cm6340 (COLOR !!!!). If any of this did not freeze (usually a printer), it printed for about ten minutes.

        In 1993, the calculation of the microstrip antenna was already done at 286 with 16 MHz and 1 MB under the DOS MS, a 20 MB disk (drooling from the head of the department flowed). The calculation time was 15 minutes.
        The printout took up a roll of 3 meters in width A4 (if the CM6380 did not hang). An hour of fuss and here on graph paper frequency response, day, phase response. Another week of fuss in pascal and the schedule itself went immediately to the printout.

        In 2002, I did the calculation on Pne333 and 2 GB under Vin98 (rare rubbish). The calculation time was 4 hours. Printout - three sheets of A4 (DN, frequency response, phase response).

        2008 year. Dual core Athlon, 2,4 GHz, 8 GB, 500 GB disk (why the hell?) Windows 7. from 2 to 12 hours. If the electricity is not turned off. The printout contains a complete set of documentation for manufacturing (if you did not clear the checkmarks, why this kit for simple modeling ??).

        AND EVERY TIME THE FINAL SETTING OF AN ANTENNA BY A CUTTER FROM A KNIFE FRAME, CONSERVED FROM THE USSR.
        1. 0
          25 March 2014 21: 31
          In 2002, I did the calculation on Pne333 and 2 GB under Vin98 (rare rubbish). The calculation time was 4 hours. Printout - three sheets of A4 (DN, frequency response, phase response).
          2008 year. Dual core Athlon, 2,4 GHz, 8 GB, 500 GB disk (why the hell?) Windows 7. from 2 to 12 hours. If the electricity is not turned off. The printout contains a complete set of documentation for manufacturing (if you did not clear the checkmarks, why this kit for simple modeling ??).

          And what did you think?
          AND EVERY TIME THE FINAL SETTING OF AN ANTENNA BY A CUTTER FROM A KNIFE SHOES, CONSERVED FROM THE USSR

          Well so, a saw and a file are the main tools of the antennae laughing
  5. +7
    25 March 2014 09: 37
    And how many more will be ditched "in the field" by the military of all categories and ranks!
    Lack of elementary, even the most primitive, means of mechanization and transportation in military units; lack of normal warehouses and hangars; competent service managers and custodians; do not care conscripts ...
    Quote: svp67
    Old RUSSIAN engineering school hi

    No - the old SOVIET engineering school.
    1. +1
      25 March 2014 20: 11
      Quote: Leader
      No - the old SOVIET engineering school.

      You can evaluate in different ways, but you will not argue that the Soviet engineering school left the Russian engineering school?
  6. +2
    25 March 2014 10: 29
    Resourcefulness and ingenuity is what distinguishes a real smart hard worker from a lazy slacker with a diploma! As they say: the need for invention is strong. Our man from any situation will be able to get out ... non-standard methods
    1. +1
      25 March 2014 10: 40
      Quote: Peacemaker
      Resourcefulness and ingenuity is what distinguishes a real smart hard worker from a lazy slacker with a diploma! As they say: the need for invention is strong. Our man from any situation will be able to get out ... non-standard methods

      First of all, knowledge of the properties of materials.
  7. +1
    25 March 2014 10: 35
    Low bow! hi
  8. +3
    25 March 2014 10: 53
    Great article. Thanks.
  9. +5
    25 March 2014 11: 07
    good story thanks
    at our factory there was a case the brigade all day gathered OSA after repair
    and on the night shift, the locksmith was tasked with dismantling a nearby standing machine for a remot
    locksmith mixed up cars and dismantled the finished product in one booth laughing
    1. +4
      25 March 2014 12: 12
      and you want this:
      in the clinic of the regional cancer hospital, a young girl cries, by mistake she cut a healthy breast instead of a patient ........
      alas it's true
  10. +3
    25 March 2014 11: 16
    Most of the times, it was passed to chase the soldiers who dragged the blocks from the equipment by the "tails" from the cables, throwing them "over the shoulder". And the fact that at the same time the cable cores were torn off the soldering inside the block - they didn't care ...
    1. +3
      25 March 2014 12: 12
      Come on, what kind of cables. I saw with my own eyes a block in which the pin-catcher was bent into the little finger, it turns out that they tried to cram this unfortunate block upside down in a rack. Almost succeeded.
    2. +2
      25 March 2014 19: 25
      Quote: Dragon-y
      Most of the times, it was passed to chase the soldiers who dragged the blocks from the equipment by the "tails" from the cables, throwing them "over the shoulder". And the fact that at the same time the cable cores were torn off the soldering inside the block - they didn't care ...

      What did you want from the conscript? He doesn’t give a damn about your cables and equipment, come on ...
  11. +7
    25 March 2014 12: 29
    I read it in one go. The ability to find a way out in a hopeless state, IMHO, our national trait. Therefore, they are still alive.
    I read reviews above about the lack of a production culture. There is such a thing. The culture of production (design, etc.) does not appear on its own, it is implanted and sometimes harsh methods. And it is right.
    At one time he worked at a pilot plant. Uncleaned workplace, improper use of equipment, etc. IMMEDIATELY PURPOSED by depriving part of the award. And the issue was not subject to discussion. As a result, the production culture at the plant was. The word "okay" was not in the lexicon at all. I had to contact my colleagues (turners, milling workers) on the issues of making parts for household needs ("hack"). They went to the meeting willingly, but an indispensable condition was "give me a drawing." When an attempt was made to explain "on the fingers", the customer was immediately sent ... for a drawing. That was a long time ago....
  12. vkrav
    +7
    25 March 2014 15: 56
    We started the microelectronics workshop ... The key moment is the spraying chamber. Gold wires were sprayed on the porcelain plates ... They started, they started to work. Somewhere a month later they found out that the gold was over. There was a shortage of about 5 kg of gold right away . Everything is on the ears and the validol, the KGB is cowardly to everyone - everyone has confessed to all existing and imaginary sins, and they are already going to Kolyma - but there is no gold! Until someone peeped with longing into the camera. And the camera is gilded from the inside! Beautiful! It’s just business — they broke the postings, which brings positive potential to the camera’s body ... Three heart attacks, a dozen expelled from the party, a simple workshop - the result of the headache of an unknown eccentric with the letter M ... How gold was mined back is a separate song.
  13. +2
    25 March 2014 16: 23
    Respect to the author! Indeed, at the post office in the military-industrial complex, we often encountered different manifestations of our "Maybe!" But, interestingly, our products fulfilled their purpose as weapons well am
  14. Gagarin
    +3
    25 March 2014 16: 23
    These frames are irrevocably leaving.
    Do not create new ones - we lose everything.
    1. +3
      25 March 2014 23: 46
      Long gone. Back in the 1990s, who was in the trade, I and another friend went to shuttles, I saw one, sold MMM tickets, and another, funny, went to the firemen. In short, who is going to survive.
  15. Asan Ata
    +2
    25 March 2014 16: 28
    Once upon a time, it seems in 1980, exactly, during the Olympics, he worked as a designer at the "Tensor", practice for 2 months. I managed to develop something serious, which the director after graduation invited to work: "We will give you an apartment." Refused politely, they say the Motherland calls, Kazakhstan. I liked the plant - a new one, a lot of young people, there were many interesting things. I wonder how Tensor is doing? Once I looked at Google Yos, like everything is in place. Respond who knows. hi
  16. rumatam
    +1
    25 March 2014 18: 21
    YES there were people in our Soviet era ..... And the Soviet Union destroyed such slobs that carried these antennas.
  17. +3
    25 March 2014 18: 51
    Quote: Avenich
    Come on, what kind of cables. I saw with my own eyes a block in which the pin-catcher was bent into the little finger, it turns out that they tried to cram this unfortunate block upside down in a rack. Almost succeeded.

    It’s still nothing, they once dragged me a block with broken mounting ears, and on the cover there was a trace from a tarpaulin boot. It turned out to the fighter, getting out of the car, it was convenient to use this unit as a step.
  18. Moscow-7
    +3
    25 March 2014 18: 53
    The culture of production is not taken from nowhere, it is brought up.

    Previously, there were no other ways than the personal sudden presence in the shops and departments of the boss of the highest level, followed by giving out kicks to the beginning. shop, beg. plot to the master.

    Today. Today, either a reproduction of what has been completed, or a digital environment in which nothing can be hidden or hidden from control.
    1. +2
      26 March 2014 00: 58
      A sensible and authoritative master and technologist is enough. Anyway, in my factory.
  19. +2
    25 March 2014 19: 03
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: Nagan
    Yes, the old-school engineer is visible.

    Old RUSSIAN engineering school hi

    SOVIET SCHOOL!
  20. +8
    25 March 2014 20: 17
    Soviet engineering school is great. I myself am a Soviet engineer. There is no limit to my hatred of her god-damned representatives! Here is a striking example, he describes himself in the article, looks at himself in the mirror and sees nothing, sees absolutely nothing! Damn you!
    Knots that cannot be disassembled without breaking. Control handles, poured at hand. Hands ripped apart on the consoles you designed! Magnificent Volga car, the production of which was discontinued because of that. that someone from exactly the same Soviet specialists made in her box the transition from second to third gear in a thousand revolutions. A thousand! The car helplessly "falls" on overtaking ... and that's it. Nobody needs.
    Uncle antenna operator. And nothing that, with all your combat biography, it never occurred to you to make a HANDLE to the antenna ?! Weighing from 60-70 grams, made of lightweight and durable plastic, which is now a shaft! From which they make practically indestructible packages that weigh nothing, and not your shameful "container" with which you can kill a person! So we lost the Cold War, so we had technological competition. You guys have always seen the technique well. And always, in everything, in all matters they spat on a MAN! Ugh...
  21. rezident
    +1
    25 March 2014 20: 44
    Undercut, as I understand it, drove the VSWR closer to unity. And what kind of program? Something similar to Mmana-Gal?
  22. +4
    25 March 2014 22: 38
    the old school is famous for resourcefulness,
    but the foresight alas can only boast of a realist.
    what is it worth to envisage such a twist of fate as protection from the idiot, if it is not possible to foresee the fulfillment of all the norms of the technical process?
    Yes, the piece of iron will become 50 rubles more expensive and 30 grams harder if the cable is reinforced with a cable, but then it will become unkillable. or stupidly provide handles? her. it’s not ours - everything is super, but it doesn’t work without straightening, everything is super, but to use it you need to become a professional.
    1. 0
      26 March 2014 05: 43
      Yeah, you take off the fairing from the rocket, and there ... "antenna with handles" laughing almost like an ass with ears.
  23. go
    +2
    25 March 2014 23: 17
    Of course, there’s a lot of nonsense of it among Russians. Others say so Europeans less. But I am increasingly coming to the conclusion that it is connected with the lack of elementary training in handling techniques with complex equipment and safety equipment (and control after training) or with a disregard for this training. Because by nature, the Russians are still not gouging. After all, if this technical school was taught how to handle the antenna, he would hardly break it, if only on purpose. And if after this training he would have deducted a loss from his salary, I think it would not have happened again. For comparison, I can say that in Western Europe, such courses are held by everything from designers to ordinary workers at least once a year with a test. The results are good.
  24. +2
    26 March 2014 10: 11
    Quote: svp67
    the fact that the Soviet engineering school came out of the Russian engineering school will not argue?

    I won’t. But these are different schools. Russian ended in 1917.
    And the Soviet one is something else. When the T-34 tank is "the best medium tank of the 2nd MV", and in the report of the amerikosov - bewilderment: "how can one fight and live in this?"
    Quote: Mikhail3
    And always, in everything, in all matters, they spat on MAN!

    Unfortunately!
    And in response they received the indifference of the majority, because of the silence of which scoundrels bred.
    First - the factory! Housing? - then ... someday ...
    There are machines in the workshop! Restroom? - behind the neighboring shop ... "village" toilet ...
    Locker room - half a cup per person.
    Lack of basic amenities at the workplace, lack of normal lighting, tools, dirt, etc. gives rise to disregard for business.
    For this is not a temporary state, but a permanent one!
    And in the army - the same thing. One point per 15 people, the water in the barracks is only cold, instead of "here's your mittens" - an idiotic "There is such a military word -" Find! "...
    From here "Yes, it all started ...!"
    40 years in a communal apartment - is this normal? Builders of the Baikal-Amur Railway, who have been living in decommissioned cars along the railway for 40 years - is this normal? War veterans, 70 years in line for housing - do not fit in my head ...
    The other day I went on business to a St. Petersburg university teacher - a lonely 60-year-old man, candidate and associate professor, a well-known historian lives in a communal apartment !!!
  25. +3
    26 March 2014 19: 10
    The point of testing is to check how a serial industrial design works. And they whipped up a cardboard hack. << Then the representative of the customer intervened "I close my eyes to the fact that the technological process is different from that used at the manufacturer ..." >>
    You can guess why all the fuss. Probably for the congress of the CPSU or some date they were preparing to "hand over" the product, to make a "gift".
  26. 0
    26 March 2014 19: 15
    The author is a definite plus !!! For me, the appropriate ENGINEERING and DESIGN thought has always been and will be a guideline.
    Thank you from the design engineer.
    ... it’s a pity when you have to use your skills / experience to eliminate the consequences of someone else’s sloppiness and irresponsibility.

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