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White spots, black holes. Legends of the Navy

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How died battleship "Novorossiysk"? What happened to the submarine "Kursk"? What is the secret of the disappearance of K-129? How did our submariners break through to the shores of the USA? Where were the tests of the fastest and deepest submarines? Where did the fragments of ballistic missiles disappear from the seabed? At what depth sank "Komsomolets"? Is it true that in the Crimea there is an underground submarine base?

The sea keeps its secrets. But even more sea secrets are hidden in the archives of the special services.

Theodosia experiment

There are still legends about the mysterious "Philadelphia Experiment" - the instantaneous movement in space of the destroyer "Eldridge", which happened on October 28 1943 of the year during secret government experiments on the creation of an "invisible" ship.

But all the horror stories about sailors who have grown together with the deck of the Eldridge, fade against the background of frightening legends associated with the cruiser "Admiral Nakhimov." Soviet ghost ship, forever stuck on the border of the real and otherworldly worlds.

"Admiral Nakhimov" - the only ship of the Soviet fleetwhose documents (logbooks, etc.) were removed from the Central Naval Archive by the USSR State Security Committee. The reasons are unknown.

Together with the documents disappeared most of the photos and negatives. Any materials on the "Nakhimov" immediately seized from the sailors of the Special Department of the Black Sea Fleet.



The disappearance of the documents was preceded by a number of other suspicious events: the new cruiser was expelled from the Navy after just 7 years after it entered service. According to eyewitnesses, before writing off on board the "Nakhimov" was carried out a full range of decontamination work. The wooden flooring of the deck was torn off, the hull was thoroughly “worn out”, and then covered with lead red lead.

... It is alleged that on a dark December night, the 1960 of the year, the cruiser was towed to Sevastopol and put into one of the cordoned off docks at the Sevmorzavod. What I saw shocked everyone: the ship had a broken keel, the skin in the underwater part of the hull had undergone significant deformations. By all indications, the cruiser hull was subjected to a powerful hydrodynamic impact.

After an urgent decontamination of the ship was carried out. In February, 1961 lowered the flag on Nakhimov, and in July of the same year the cruiser was shot as a target during the Black Sea Fleet exercises. However, it was not possible to sink it - what was left of Nakhimov was towed to the bank and cut into metal.

The ship has disappeared, but its mystery still stirs the minds of sailors and historians.

4 December 1960, a seismic push was recorded off the coast of the Crimea with a 3-4 score with an epicenter underwater five miles from Cape Meganom, at a depth of 500 meters.

- Hydrometeorological service of the Black Sea Fleet.

“I am surprised at this fuss with Nakhimov, because everyone has long known that the T-5 nuclear torpedo was blown up under it.

- the opinion of a retired submariner, a note in the newspaper "Meridian-Sevastopol" from 07.04.2010,

Torpedo T-5 / 53-58 - unguided tactical ammunition caliber 533 mm, equipped with SBCh 3 kiloton power (six times weaker than a bomb that fell on Hiroshima). The torpedo was adopted by the Soviet Navy in the 1958 year and was intended for action in a naval battle. Despite the modest power, the underwater explosion was much more destructive than an air explosion of similar power. As a result, the enemy ships were hit (heavy damage in the underwater part of the hull) within 700 radius from the torpedo detonation point.

Is it really a gloomy winter day of the 1960 year when a cyclopean column of water shot up into the sea not far from Theodosia, scattering the ships on the surface to the sides?

White spots, black holes. Legends of the Navy

Underwater nuclear explosion at Bikini Atoll. 23 power kt


There are also more prosaic explanations of the mystery of the “Theodosian Experiment”.

Premature cancellation of the cruiser "Admiral Nakhimov" - a common event for that time. It was a morally obsolete artillery cruiser, which, objectively, was even inferior to foreign counterparts of the war years. Comrade Khrushchev had a short conversation with such rubbish: scrapping / reserve / conversion to a new test bench weapons. At the same time, the newest missile cruisers and nuclear submarines were laid in the shipyards of the Soviet Union, which were to replace the old cruisers on ocean communications.

The logic of nuclear testing off the coast of Crimea is not entirely clear. Torpedo T-5 passed a successful test on Novaya Zemlya in 1957, the sailors learned everything they wanted to know. Why was it necessary to conduct such a loud provocative operation at the very borders of NATO? On the other hand, it happened in the midst of the Cold War, when nuclear tests were booming every month. It cannot be ruled out that the Soviet military-political leadership needed to conduct a nuclear test in the Black Sea. Oh times, about morals!


One-type cruiser "Mikhail Kutuzov"

The deaf veil of secrecy surrounding “Admiral Nakhimov” is largely related to the period of his service in 1955-58, when, on the cruiser, instead of the nasal battery of the main caliber, the experimental rocket complex KSS “Quiver” was installed with anti-ship cruise missiles KS-1 “Komet” "(Option for ship-based). This fact alone can explain the lack of high-quality photographic materials dedicated to the cruiser "Nakhimov".

In view of the imminent moral obsolescence of the KSS complex, the theme of development did not receive, and already in 1958, the launcher was dismantled from the ship.

Insoluble paradox. Experimental samples of missile weapons were installed on many ships of the USSR Navy — it suffices to recall the Dzerzhinsky cruiser of the same type with the Volkhov-M mounted on the stern M-2 air defense system. But the documents were seized only from the cruiser "Admiral Nakhimov".

Finally, what were the decontamination measures associated with the ship before it was written off?

History does not know the answer. The secret of "Admiral Nakhimov" is still buried in the archives of the special services.

Sea chameleons

Already for the second day, the aggressive American aircraft carrier is proceeding in the same direction and accurately repeats all the maneuvers of the Soviet trawler.

- TASS message.

“Knights” from the Special Department were engaged not only in the seizure of shipping documents and the perusal of mail. Some of the operatives had to face the “probable enemy”.

For example, in the Caspian Sea, the 17-th separate brigade of border guard ships (17-th OBrPSKR) included two radio reconnaissance ships operatively subordinate to the Second Main Directorate of the KGB of the USSR. The ships were used to gather intelligence in Iran.

Similarly, small anti-submarine ships of the 4-th OBrPSKR from Liepāja (Latvia) were used, periodically taking on the 8-th KGB radio reconnaissance group of its own onboard in the Baltic straits, imitating being in the sentinel positions of the IPC from Baltiysk and Varnemunde, busy antisubmarine patrol.

Often, intelligence posts were equipped right on the ships of the civil fleet. By order "from above," the captain set off the cabin and provided food for "comrades in civilian clothes" who locked themselves in their quarters along with reconnaissance equipment and studied something intensely during the entire voyage.


Soviet whaler stalking "whale"

Gru went even further. In the interests of military intelligence, a number of trawlers, whalers and sea tugs * were secretly converted. The equipment was placed in such a way that the intelligence officer did not have external differences from civil vessels of similar design.

* I ask you not to confuse these ships with the "official" naval reconnaissance ships of the CER (naval communications vessels, which also carried out constant tracking of the fleets of western states).

Converted in this way the ships went out into the ocean, if possible following the usual routes of the merchant fleet. And only when only a few miles remained before the “target”, the “trawler” abruptly changed course and unceremoniously occupied the place in the warrant of the US Navy carrier group. Thus, he could accompany the Yankee ships for several days, and then transfer the watch to another “trawler” or “communications vessel”.

The circuit worked like a clock.

The Yankees could in no way prevent the "trawlers" from approaching their squadrons. In this case, international maritime law was entirely on our side - the action took place in neutral waters, and the “trawler” could be where he liked. Breaking away from him on the 30-node course is useless - in a few hours a new GRU whaler will emerge right on the course. The Yankees knew that only in vain they "killed" the resource of their engines.



It was strictly forbidden to use weapons against the little scout. The most that the Americans could do was simulate the attack by stunning the crew of the "trawler" with a roar aviation motors. After some time, this game tired everyone, and the Yankees ceased to pay attention to the "pelvis" going in the wake of the aircraft carrier.

And in vain! In the event of an escalation of the international situation and the beginning of hostilities, the “trawler” managed to transmit the current coordinates of the AUG, its composition and the scheme for constructing a warrant for warships of the Soviet Navy.

Admiral Gorshkov hyperboloids

... One of the winter days of the year 1980, night, pier number 12 in the North Bay of Sevastopol. Around - four-meter concrete fence and wire under current. Searchlight guard. Something strange is happening.

At the pier is a cargo ship "Dixon". But why all these unprecedented security measures were taken? What secret cargo can be hidden in the holds of an ordinary timber truck?

Normal? Not! 400 compressed air cylinders, three jet engines from Tu-154 aircraft, 35-megawatted power generators and high-capacity refrigeration units are installed in the belly of the “peaceful Soviet transport”. But the main secret is hidden in the superstructure - a strange device with a copper mirror polished to a shine on a beryllium lining, through the capillaries of which it is pumped over 400 liters of alcohol per minute. Cooling system! Next door are computer units (Soviet microchips are the largest microcircuits in the world!) - the supercomputer monitors the state of the mirror surface with an accuracy of one micron. In case of detection of distortions, 48 compensating “cams” ​​are activated, immediately setting the required curvature of the surface.

The crew of the strange ship - employees of the Navy and six KGB officers.



The expiration of the non-disclosure subscription expired in the 1992 year, and now we can speak about it safely. In 1980, the USSR conducted tests of a combat laser mounted on a mobile offshore platform. The project received the code "Aydar".

The installation was mounted on board a civilian timber truck converted into an experimental stand on 05961 Ave. In order not to disturb our western "friends" once again, the former ship of the ship kept its former name - "Dickson".

The first shooting was carried out in the summer of 1980, at the target located on the coast. Unlike science fiction films, no one saw the laser beam and colorful explosions - only the sensor mounted on the target recorded a sharp jump in temperature. The laser efficiency was only 5%. Increased humidity at the surface of the sea leveled all the advantages of laser weapons.

The duration of the shot was 0,9 seconds, preparation for the shot took a day.

Like the US SOI program (Star Wars), the Soviet project Aydar turned out to be a beautiful, but completely useless toy. It will take years to improve the designs of laser systems and energy sources that can accumulate and instantly give an impulse of tremendous power.




Wrecking ship 90 (OS-90), it is also the laser battle platform Foros

Nevertheless, work on the project "Aydar" created a huge reserve in the field of laser technology and the creation of combat "hyperboloids." In 1984, a similar installation, Aquilon, was mounted aboard the amphibious assault ship KFOR-20 (Foros project).

Due to the extremely high costs and the lack of any real returns, the work on the subject of Soviet naval combat lasers was curtailed in 1985.

These are the "white spots" covered pages of the domestic fleet. Do we ever know the whole truth? Future will tell!

Based on:
http://forums.airbase.ru
http://flot.sevastopol.info
http://masterok.livejournal.com
http://meridian.in.ua
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  1. saag
    saag 26 March 2014 08: 30
    +14
    How did the battleship Novorossiysk die?
    blown up by italian combat swimmers
    What happened to the Kursk submarine?
    here on the website this issue was covered in some detail in some way, why the shortcomings of this project also failed
    Is it true that in Crimea there is an underground submarine base?
    true, but there was, for small projects, in Balaclava, now they say there is a museum
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 26 March 2014 08: 44
      +10
      Quote: saag
      How did the battleship Novorossiysk die?
      blown up by italian combat swimmers

      Meaninglessness. What for? Who needed this rusty pelvis which was already 41 years old! Giulio Cesare was never the pride of the Italian fleet, NEVER! The floating barracks of which was Giulio Cesare for almost the entire Second World War cannot be an object of adoration a priori. The best ships and pride of the Italian fleet (and according to one of the best battleships in the world) was Littorio and his brothers Vittorio Veneto and Roma.
      Further. The USSR and Italy especially never quarreled, if the Germans didn’t drag them into an adventure, the USSR and Italy would have remained good friends, Stalin’s fascist friends regularly shared modern shipbuilding technologies. The Red Army did not invade Italy, did not hang Mussolini for the egg, what kind of claim could the Italians have against the USSR? NO KIH!
      1. saag
        saag 26 March 2014 08: 49
        +1
        Well, you know the expression "So don't get it to anyone," it's not what the Italians used to have it, it's a kind of revenge for humiliation
        1. nnz226
          nnz226 26 March 2014 14: 43
          +6
          And most of the Italian fleet was raped by the Anglo-Saxons, with whom Italy swung from 1940 to 1944 and had a lot of losses. Why were the ships not blown up by the "eagles" of Prince Borghese?
      2. poccinin
        poccinin 26 March 2014 11: 56
        +1
        Nevertheless, in Italy, combat swimmers were awarded for WHAT immediately after the death of Novorossiysk?
        1. Nayhas
          Nayhas 26 March 2014 15: 12
          +8
          Quote: poccinin
          Nevertheless, in Italy, combat swimmers were awarded for WHAT immediately after the death of Novorossiysk?

          When reading about the disaster with Novorossiysk, I constantly come across typical phrases like
          In Italy, on the eve of the transfer of the battleship of the USSR, openly voiced calls not to allow the pride of the Italian fleet to be under the Soviet flag.

          in Italy, combat swimmers were awarded after the death of NEW RUSSIAN

          It’s absolutely impossible to get to the source.
          Calls about the inadmissibility of transferring "the pride of Italy" could only be heard in the press, otherwise no one would have known about them. Accordingly, there should be a link to the newspaper, but where is it? In theory, a meticulous researcher can quite legally find in the state. the library of the Italian newspaper for December 9, 1948. and find an article like "Farewell to the pride of the nation (used since 1943 as a floating barracks), there is no shameful day in the history of Italy!" and poking your finger into it to exclaim Aha! But no one has done this until now.
          Now about the alleged rewarding. If the awarding was secret, then no one would have known about it. If the awarding was open, then in the newspaper (for example, Corriere della Sera) there should be a note about awarding such officers with such awards. State awards are not given just like that, each comes with an award list, here Italy is hardly different from the rest of the world. The composition of the XªMAS group is probably known and it is not difficult to trace their awards, but no one has done this, how is it? Why no one pointed a finger and said, and why the former member of Xª MAS Luigi Durand de la Penne (for example) before his appointment to Brazil in 1956. received a military order? And further along the old scheme, with a thumb up and "Aha!"
          Not a single study of the destruction of the battleship Novorossiysk even came close to finding a connection between it and Xª MAS. There is only a new "confession" of the old man Hugo D'Esposito, who casually stated about Novorossiysk like "well, yes, and this is their job." The price for such recognition is 0.
        2. vlad73
          vlad73 14 November 2014 20: 54
          0
          Have you ever held the award lists in your hands? Since the death of the battleship, such a cf.ya is constantly being discussed in the "press", there are constantly some "witnesses", "participants", and people like you are spreading it ... And at the same time, for half a century, at least one document!
      3. nnz226
        nnz226 26 March 2014 14: 42
        +3
        Moreover, the Italians built the best ship for the Black Sea Fleet - the leader "Tashkent" ("Blue Cruiser"), the last large surface ship that broke through in the summer of 1942 to Sevastopol. The canvas of Roubaud's panorama "Defense of Sevastopol" was taken out on it.
    2. rasputin17
      rasputin17 26 March 2014 08: 54
      +5
      That's right !!! A simple layman should know as much as he should, and he doesn’t need to know more, because there is little benefit from it, and it can sometimes seriously harm a business! There are official data and versions for people ignorant of them, however they oppose, especially inquisitive ones can build their own versions and guesses that it is not forbidden! laughing
      The less you know, the better you sleep and the longer you live !!)) laughing
    3. sub307
      sub307 26 March 2014 09: 18
      +7
      Well, where is the "fog", without the "fog" it is not so somehow. And with the "fog" (especially in the head), the same thing for the "narrow-eyed bespectacled man" from "Military Secret".
      1. Denis
        Denis 26 March 2014 16: 21
        +1
        Quote: sub307
        the very thing for the "squinted bespectacled man" from "Military Secret".

        Or for the "Searchers" who are looking for puffing out their cheeks. Just what they found?
      2. lelikas
        lelikas 26 March 2014 19: 27
        0
        Quote: sub307
        Well, where is the "fog", without the "fog" it is not so somehow. And with the "fog" (especially in the head), the same thing for the "narrow-eyed bespectacled man" from "Military Secret".

        To create the appearance - it is necessary to let a little more fog ... © Captain Vrungel.
      3. lelikas
        lelikas 26 March 2014 19: 27
        +2
        Quote: sub307
        Well, where is the "fog", without the "fog" it is not so somehow. And with the "fog" (especially in the head), the same thing for the "narrow-eyed bespectacled man" from "Military Secret".

        To create the appearance - it is necessary to let a little more fog ... © Captain Vrungel.
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    5. Lich
      Lich 26 March 2014 11: 28
      +3
      That's right, there is a submarine base in Balaclava. The entrance is carefully camouflaged, even now it is impossible to distinguish it from the usual bay. It’s a pity that there is no secret .. Now there is a museum, I even happened to go there
    6. nnz226
      nnz226 26 March 2014 14: 40
      0
      Do not speak! In fact, the museum of the Navy (the naval and naval forces of Ukraine). Have worked. Now, apparently, they will transfer to the branch of the museum of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation.
      1. Santa Fe
        26 March 2014 14: 47
        0
        Quote: nnz226
        In fact, the museum of the Navy (the naval and naval forces of Ukraine). Have worked. Now, apparently, they will transfer to the branch of the museum of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation.

        Balaclava
    7. Kapitan Oleg
      Kapitan Oleg 26 March 2014 16: 34
      0
      I think that the disaster with "Novorossiysk" cannot be considered separately from the disaster of "Empress Mary". They (the tragedies of these two ships) are just twins. That's where the mystery is!
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  2. Jarik56
    Jarik56 26 March 2014 08: 35
    +5
    But many things will not be told much soon. There is something that will forever remain a state secret.
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 26 March 2014 08: 46
      +3
      Quote: Jarik56
      But many things will not be told much soon. There is something that will forever remain a state secret.

      Best when a mystery remains a mystery. This excites the brain, makes it think analytically, delve into the sources expanding its horizons.
      1. Turkir
        Turkir 26 March 2014 11: 48
        +2
        And it gives the opportunity to earn "money" very greyhound scribblers.
        As for the article, it is weak. The compilation of facts is tendentious.
        End justifies the means?
        Harmful and not having, no relation to the analysis approach. Facts should propel you towards truth, to conclusion, and not vice versa. This applies to all scientific thought, the scientific approach.
        Negative experience moves scientific thought further. As for the mistakes, the responsibility for them lies entirely with the administrative apparatus, the main principle of which does not shine with "intellectual" delights, "REMOVE AND POSITION", this is their motto. They always need to report "up" and get the next star.
        1. Nayhas
          Nayhas 26 March 2014 20: 10
          0
          Quote: Turkir
          And it gives the opportunity to earn "money" very greyhound scribblers.

          Anyway, if people are reading, this is good ... Unfortunately, it’s so difficult to make reading now ... You look at the abundance of information and think that you’d be back in childhood, there’s so much food for the mind, you don’t need to go to libraries, you don’t need to waste paper collect, do not stand in lines ....
  3. rasputin17
    rasputin17 26 March 2014 08: 48
    +1
    On this topic, almost everything has a signature stamp and many things that happened when I was in the Navy on the network are not even mentioned, and there are many reasons for this. And then why lay it out for discussion if our potential enemies can take advantage of this data! ??
  4. Know-nothing
    Know-nothing 26 March 2014 09: 36
    +5
    The Quakers have been forgotten.

    So in the spring of 1978, an American landing ship appeared in the waters of the Barents Sea. No one, of course, was afraid that he would land a company of tanks on our coast. But why would he be hanging around here? According to the minesweeper, who was immediately "fastened" to the guest, the "American" is doing some work, but the nature of her cannot be revealed. The fleet commander ordered to send one of our boats to "sniff" the guest more closely. The choice fell on the B-130. Fulfilling a new mission, the boat walked around the landing ship for a week. Noises were recorded, observations were made through the periscope from all angles. No. No specific proposals have arisen.

    "American" worked until the beginning of August. On Navy Day, the commander of the American ship on VHF, through his officer in pure Russian, congratulated the minesweeper's crew on the holiday and asked for permission to send a helicopter to hand over gifts. A couple of minutes later, a "spinner" was hanging over the deck of the minesweeper, and a net with fresh fruit descended along the cable, so that our people not only did not try, but did not even know what they were called. For the commander, a bottle of whiskey and a "Bible" in black binding with a dedicatory inscription were personally allocated.

    There was little time for the response, and it was simply not possible to make it adequate. A jar of taranka, a bottle of "awl", a box of biscuits and a trilogy of works by our leader. The latter struck me. Such an elegant way out would not occur to me: you give us your ideological platform, and we give you ours.

    Unfortunately, the political department of the 23rd OVR division, which included the minesweeper, reacted differently to "this trick". Her flagship miner Grisha Khimyak told me later that the commander of the minesweeper was dismissed by the "political workers".

    We learned about the consequences of the visit of the "American" about a year later. Our divers sometimes began to detect some unusual noises, reminiscent of the croaking of frogs. The first reaction of nuclear scientists is to jump out of the area where these emitters work. But noises arose spontaneously in various parts of the Barents Sea. The riddle was solved about four years later, if not more.

    Back in the 1960s. the Americans installed a stationary sonar system SOSUS in the northeastern Atlantic, which provided illumination of the underwater situation throughout the northern theater. The receiving grids lay on the ground in the Norwegian Sea and converged with their cable connections in Reykjavik, where the NATO anti-submarine command center is located. The Americans did not dare to install these gratings closer to our coast. The depths are not enough there, and you can expect everything from the Russians - after all. If in the Norwegian Sea the accuracy of direction finding of our submarines suited them, then the ships in the Barents Sea were detected with large errors. The reason for these errors lay in the distortion of the hydroacoustic beam passing through the zone of action of the powerful warm current of the Gulf Stream. Knowing with high accuracy the coordinates of the installed emitters, which received the nickname "Quakers" on the Northern Fleet, in the course of their short-term operation, the anti-submarine center received corrections to bearings, which significantly increased the accuracy of detecting the coordinates of our boats.
  5. Lissyara
    Lissyara 26 March 2014 09: 49
    +4
    Here the descendants of 50 years will read so many interesting things. How to grill, the forbidden fruit is sweet. Well, in the near future, no one is going to open the "Central State Library of the Ministry of Defense (FSB), etc." winked
  6. Gray 43
    Gray 43 26 March 2014 09: 51
    +3
    A lot of Soviet developments remain classified, and rightly so, let Westerners get nervous
  7. Andrey SPB
    Andrey SPB 26 March 2014 11: 28
    +1
    An expensive and useless toy ... nothing more.
  8. creak
    creak 26 March 2014 11: 43
    +1
    Quote: saag
    it's a kind of revenge for humiliation


    Most of all Italians were humiliated by their former ally, Germany, after Italy left the war, disarmed the Italian army and practically occupied the country ... So this thesis seems doubtful ...
    1. saag
      saag 26 March 2014 12: 40
      0
      after Germany was turned into a potato field and everything that they could was taken for reparations, it is unlikely that the Italians would be angry at them after that
  9. Sledgehammer
    Sledgehammer 26 March 2014 13: 06
    0
    Interesting article, thanks to the author.
  10. nod739
    nod739 26 March 2014 14: 06
    0
    Quote: Nayhas
    Giulio Cesare was never the pride of the Italian fleet, NEVER!

    personification of the hero
    people need it, hence the revenge is ours too, well, if it isn’t for us to destroy so as not to humiliate ourselves, pride in a word.
    not far to go, today in Ukraine Bandera is a hero, monuments put and glorify him
    but essentially who is he? national idea and identity? -well, but what about sabotage sabotage and murder-IN YOUR TERRITORY ????
  11. Yarik
    Yarik 26 March 2014 15: 02
    +1
    Nayhas (3) Today, 08:44 ↑
    Quote: saag
    How did the battleship Novorossiysk die?
    blown up by italian combat swimmers
    Meaninglessness. What for? Who needed this rusty pelvis


    Against the background of "Sevastopol", the rusty pelvis looked like some other fighter! And 340-mm versus 305-mm. And not 21 knots. And seaworthiness is a plus. A more perfect booking scheme. Modern silhouette. So the "ballet star" could even that .. ... sad
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 26 March 2014 21: 43
      +2
      Quote: Yarik
      Against the background of the "Sevastopol" rusty tub looked what another fighter!

      Didn’t look.
      Quote: Yarik
      And 340 mm vs 305 mm

      In Novorossiysk spawn there was no 340-mm artillery. The Italians drilled their own 305 mm to 320 mm. The Italian ship had 525 kg of shells, our battleships had 471 kg, but ours had 12 guns, not 10, which is much more interesting in terms of speed of fire
      Quote: Yarik
      And not an 21 move knot.

      The Paris Commune developed up to 23 nodes
      Quote: Yarik
      .And seaworthiness plus

      Where did you find it from an Italian ?!
      Quote: Yarik
      Better reservation scheme.

      The armored belt already in 250 mm of Cesare’s thickness due to large-scale rearrangements (and the concomitant overloads) was ... completely under water. As a result, the waterline of the ship was protected by as much as 220 mm armor, and even it rose a little bit, with a roll in 4,5, the hail went under water + 70 mm armored partition Compare with the armored belt of the same Commune (50 mm - screen, 225 mm - armored belt and 51 mm - armored partition). The deck was armored roughly equivalently.
  12. ivanovbg
    ivanovbg 26 March 2014 15: 38
    -1
    In his extreme book, Against All, Vladimir Rezun (aka Viktor Suvorov) claims that Novorosiysk was blown up by the KGB in order to "put a pig on" the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy Kuznetsov.

    Propaganda is propaganda, but the facts Rezun cites are interesting to read.
  13. xomaNN
    xomaNN 26 March 2014 16: 17
    0
    The experiment on the experimental "Dixon" showed that at that level of development, the laser at sea is a toy of NF. How is it today?
  14. Kornilovets
    Kornilovets 26 March 2014 20: 27
    0
    Oleg, thanks for the articles ...

    This is the question in the Vietnam and Angolan wars, our fleet took part, reconnaissance, presence (held the "flag"), etc. ?

    Thank you.
    1. Santa Fe
      27 March 2014 02: 09
      0
      Quote: Kornilovist
      This is the question in the Vietnam and Angolan wars, our fleet took part, reconnaissance, presence (held the "flag"), etc. ?

      I'll think about it soon

      About Soviet transports unloading in Kampa - one of the Amer generals reasonably remarked that we should stop chasing wasps and it was time to turn the beehive to our mother’s edible (to destroy the ports of northern Vietnam through which the help constantly went)
  15. uzer 13
    uzer 13 26 March 2014 20: 30
    0
    The ship "Admiral Nakhimov" could be damaged during the testing of an external nuclear power plant. If there was no contact with uranium or plutonium, why do decontamination? And the nature of the damage is specific.
    There are different opinions and rumors about the Kursk submarine, why it died. Most likely the reason was established during the investigation, but for some other reasons this information was not disclosed.
    The base of the submarines in Balaklava is in poor condition and needs to be built from scratch. Maybe it’s for the best, immediately put up-to-date equipment. The museum appeared there, because Ukraine had neither ships, nor funds for their maintenance and was busy eating for a long time any handouts. And for Russia, this base will not be an unnecessary burden.
  16. supertiger21
    supertiger21 26 March 2014 20: 45
    +1
    An interesting and informative article, put a "plus" good !
  17. Navy7981
    Navy7981 26 March 2014 21: 11
    +1
    "Dixon" looks like anything but a dry cargo ship, especially not a timber carrier with very characteristic silhouettes. It is obvious from the architecture of the ship that this is a specialized vessel.
    1. Santa Fe
      26 March 2014 22: 11
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      Quote: Navy7981
      "Dixon" looks like anything but a dry cargo ship, especially not a timber carrier with very characteristic silhouettes. It is obvious from the architecture of the ship that this is a specialized vessel.

      The ship was completely rebuilt, a new superstructure was installed
  18. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 26 March 2014 23: 53
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    There are no such spots, oh how many, and I assure you colleagues, no one will rush to talk about them. We will only know what is supposed to be known about the tragedies.