Russian Defense Ministry: Less than 2 Thousands of Ukrainian Military from 18 Thousands There

According to the official report of the Ministry of Defense, today, out of more than 18 thousand Ukrainian servicemen in the Crimea, less than 2 thousand have wished to leave.

The national flags of Russia have so far been raised in 147 military units and institutions of the Ukrainian armed forces on the territory of the peninsula. The garrisons held solemn ceremony of building personnel. Raising the flags of the Russian Federation was accompanied by the performance of the national anthem.

To date, St. Andrew’s flags of the Russian Navy have been raised on 54 from 67 ships of the Ukrainian Navy, including 8 warships and 1 submarines. Today, the only submarine that previously belonged to Ukraine began relocating from Streletskaya Bay to Yuzhnaya Bay, where the division of the underwater forces of the Black Sea Fleet is located.

Meanwhile, a company of Ukrainian paratroopers, previously deployed from Dnepropetrovsk to reinforce the 36 coast guard brigade, freely left the territory of the peninsula. To the border of Ukraine, she was accompanied by two armored vehicles of the Russian army. Currently, according to Kryminform, the Ukrainian soldiers from the 36 brigade, who agreed to conclude a contract with the Russian Federation, change the insignia to Russian.

Earlier, the authorities of Crimea announced the nationalization of all state property in the peninsula. This category includes ships and coastal units of the Ukrainian Navy.

Recall that 16 March in Crimea held a referendum on the status of autonomy. More than 96% of those who voted expressed that the Peninsula was part of Russia. Two days later, 18 March, the parties signed a corresponding agreement. Yesterday, Vladimir Putin passed a law on its ratification and the entry of Crimea and Sevastopol into the Russian Federation.

Comments

[Tumbleweed]

The figures are very indicative ... It's time for "Sagaidachny" to be determined, about him on the Censor they compose legends about how he "expelled" Russian ships with combat helicopters from Ukrainian waters
Now the special officers have to work and work, because with such a number of people who have been "overturned" and "implemented" can be. I hope that we understand that we need a "reshuffle" (rotation) of military units, otherwise it is really possible to get a ready-made partisan detachment in our rear

[Rus2012]

Quote: tumbleweed

The figures are very indicative ...

When withdrawing Ukrainian troops from the Crimea, one would not forget -
also agree on the unhindered return of the Crimean guys from the Ukrainian army from the mainland!

This is very good! Otherwise, then, as the Ukrainians leave, the mothers of conscripts will have to run to rescue their sons !!!
Already, it’s been heard that they are being obstructed ..

[Nuar]

Quote: Rus2012

also agree on the unhindered return of the Crimean guys from the Ukrainian army from the mainland!

What did you mean? in ukrarmia, draftees serve in the regions from which they have been drafted. and the contractors themselves will figure it out where they will be better.

[Rus2012]

Quote: Nuar

What are you talking about?

Crimeans serving in the Ukrainian army cannot return home

All signatures are delivered - now Crimea has officially become part of Russia. But for the hundreds of Crimeans who are in Ukraine, getting home is now a big problem. For details, RT correspondent Paul Slier.
Now a lot of attention is paid to the Ukrainian military, located in the Crimea, but few people remember the Crimean military in Ukraine. At the same time, about 3 thousand Crimeans are serving in Ukrainewho really want to return home. But let's not forget that their house is already another state.

Mothers try to contact their sons, who in Ukraine are transferred from one part to another. One can imagine what these women feel now. Sons tell them about the terrible conditions in the Ukrainian army, that there is not enough food for soldiers.

Meanwhile, Crimeans officially woke up this morning in another country. For them, this is a real holiday. On Friday evening, the sky over Simferopol, Sevastopol and Moscow was lit up with colorful fireworks. Everywhere one could see Russian tricolors. Residents sang, waved flags and balloons. The festivities were attended by people of different generations. Many could not hold back the tears of joy when the sky was painted with fireworks. Everyone felt that they were present at a historical event - the reunification of Crimea and Russia. At the same time, many admit that they worry about the Russian-speaking population of southeastern Ukraine.

[novobranets]

Quote: tumbleweed

because with such a number of "overthrown" and "implantation" can be.

Surely there is.

[SkiF_RnD]

This year, the population of Russia has increased. Together with its territory, true, but is it really bad?

[biglow]

Quote: rolling the field

The figures are very indicative ... It's time for "Sagaidachny" to be determined, about him on the Censor they compose legends about how he "expelled" Russian ships with combat helicopters from Ukrainian waters

Sagaydachnykh from Odessa did not go anywhere, is anchored so that the team doesn’t run away ... He needs repair and nowhere to do ... He can’t even reach Nikolaev now ...

[mamont5]

Quote: biglow

Sagaydachnykh from Odessa did not go anywhere, is anchored so that the team doesn’t run away ... He needs repair and nowhere to do ... He can’t even reach Nikolaev now ...

This is how he managed to disperse the Russian boats.

[clidon]

That is, from the Mediterranean came quite decent, but to Nikolaev already in any way by technical condition?

[biglow]

Quote: clidon

That is, from the Mediterranean came quite decent, but to Nikolaev already in any way by technical condition?

on the way back the sagaidachny twice lost the move ...

[clidon]

Well, he will lose a couple more times, but he will reach Nikolaev.

[Igor39]

With the addition of us!

[Siberian19]

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[Sandov]

Quote: Siberian19

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The main optimism and faith in the truth. And the truth is on our side.

[clidon]

It only speaks of how little you need for pride ...

[konvalval]

The power of those who have the truth. And who really said the Crimean military.

[vjatsergey]

well, let them go to Ukraine, they will still have to choose later whether they will shoot Russians and Ukrainians who do not agree with the new government.

[Egoza]

Quote: vjatsergey

well, let them go to Ukraine,

It may well be that many of them come from memory! Yushchenko specially sent military men from these regions to Crimea! So everything is natural!
But on TV we all twist as "our soldiers are heroically fighting off some self-defenders, and the Russian military stand aside ..."

[svp67]

Quote: Egoza

But on TV we have

Good day Ma'am ...
1st Battalion of the Marine Corps of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, what do they say about it? According to our data, the remains of the baht, and this is at least half, "locked" in their base and neither here nor there. Is the commander sending everyone "to ..." including representatives from Kiev? What data do you have there?

[novobranets]

People themselves must determine their future life. Who did not want to, they did not begin to hold him, and in my opinion this is correct. I am sure those who stayed understood that they were not on the road with fascism.

[delfinN]

They just still remember what friendship of peoples is.

[Com T-64a]

Dear, I understand that - A person who at the last moment joined a stronger army, the army that came to the territory of your country (Crimea was Ukrainian at that time) does not inspire confidence in the new oath (my opinion)

[novobranets]

Quote: Com. T-64a

The man who at the last moment joined a stronger army
does not inspire confidence in the new oath

But there are people who did not want to betray the memory of their ancestors, and did not serve under the banner with a swastika. And she appears on the banner of Ukraine, it is a matter of time. If normal, progressive communities do not crush that snake ball that settled in Kiev.

[Russ69]

Quote: Com. T-64a

Dear, I understand that - A person who at the last moment joined a stronger army, the army that came to the territory of your country (Crimea was Ukrainian at that time) does not inspire confidence in the new oath (my opinion)

Firstly, the majority were local there, and Russia was neither a stranger nor a probable enemy to them ...
Secondly, when they begin to form parts, they will dilute the parts. Specialists will appear who will be wool anyway. After a year or two, everything will be fine.

[STi_v]

Such a person does not cause confidence in principle. There is an army of the Russian sample of the 90s. No training, no shooting, nothing. Just work to protect the army economy and the maintenance of the economy of officers and warrant officers. That not everyone there went over to the side of Russia from patriotic considerations to historical roots, etc. - This is a fact and it is understandable. Yes, it is in the Russian army. Not everyone serves for their homeland, many for salaries, apartments, bribes, etc. I even think that (not the soldiers of course, they are still young), the officers who took the Ukrainian oath after the Soviet oath were not all enthusiastic either. Who has a family, a house, children at school around the corner, where should they go? Also now. To express oneself corny is a victim of circumstances. It is hoped that they will not remain abandoned. Such a loan of trust, issued to Russia, from these men, oh, how to work it out.

[31231]

Do not tell me where you personally and when you served? if possible VUS?

[delfinN]

In the best case, 100 (shooter), and m. - 999 (not having a military education)

[svp67]

Quote: Com. T-64a

Dear, I understand that - A person who at the last moment joined a stronger army, the army that came to the territory of your country (Crimea was Ukrainian at that time) does not inspire confidence in the new oath (my opinion)

They HAVE ALREADY been betrayed, including us ... what is there to be surprised. We will need to spend a lot of energy for the people of Crimea to believe in us for real ...

[Sandov]

Quote: Com. T-64

Dear, I understand that - A person who at the last moment joined a stronger army, the army that came to the territory of your country (Crimea was Ukrainian at that time) does not inspire confidence in the new oath (my opinion)

Serve the Nazis? People of honor cannot make a deal with conscience. And conscience is on the side of Russia.

[Orik]

Quote: Com. T-64

Dear, I understand that - A person who at the last moment joined a stronger army, the army that came to the territory of your country (Crimea was Ukrainian at that time) does not inspire confidence in the new oath (my opinion)

God forbid such a choice as the Ukrainian military in the Crimea. If you don’t decide, the sediment remains. I think we need to support everyone, everyone has chosen his own and most importantly there are no victims among the Russian people.

[Aleksandr65]

What are you talking about? Yes, if I were a Ukrainian officer from the Crimea, I would love to send a Ukrainian army away. Really it is not obvious!

[Faza]

If you serve the current government, then they betrayed their president, Yanukovych!
and the swastika is probably not to their liking, history was well taught!

[sak1969]

Quote: Com. T-64

Dear, I understand that - A person who at the last moment joined a stronger army, the army that came to the territory of your country (Crimea was Ukrainian at that time) does not inspire confidence in the new oath (my opinion)

Yes, of course, the oath is stressful for many!
But on the other hand, they didn’t force anyone.
And the Russian army did not come, it has been here since the collapse of the great country. And they are mostly local Ukrainian soldiers, one might say pro-Russian, and in general we are one nation.
But they minus you in vain.
Propaganda is propaganda, all Ukrainian presidents relied on nationalists, and their heroes are Bandera, Shukhevych ... That is, the Ukrainian government pursued a policy of the separation of one people. And this for the army could not pass without a trace.

[Aleksandr65]

Yes, yes, and the Slovaks who massively ran across to us during the Second World War are also traitors. And the Bulgarians who refused to fight with us, despite the state of war, too. This is your logic. But according to normal, a person forced to serve in the same army by circumstances will gladly serve in his near and dear ones as soon as the changed circumstances allow.
Feel the difference!

[sak1969]

Quote: Aleksandr65

This is your logic. But according to normal, a person forced to serve in the same army by circumstances will gladly serve in his near and dear ones as soon as the changed circumstances allow.
Feel the difference!

There is someone who felt something similar in 1994, only in turnover.
Refuse to swear, where to work then?
To leave for the mainland? You will lose the house by the sea!

[Luga]

So that's great. Personally, I really love it when the Russian flag is raised and the Russian anthem is performed. All other hymns and flags (except for the red one with the hammer and sickle) I don't like at all. Well, there was also the banner of our pioneer detachment, which we carried to Zarnitsa, it was also red, but that was different.

I will never forget how the first time I was a kid in Moscow on Red Square and saw our Most Important Flag (then it was red), majestically and proudly developing over a tall white building. It was already dark, against the background of a dark cloudy sky with running clouds, the illuminated flag looked really impressive ... I would like to look at it again with the same eyes ...

Article plus, Crimea plus.

[Grenz]

Most of the 2 thousand are probably zapadentsy. They would still not have taken root with us.
But here it was correctly noted above: "Now the special officers have to work and work, because with such a number of people who have gone overboard, there can be" implementation ". If not an introduction, then the brains of many against the Russians have been thoroughly washed over the years, and they have been asked to the Russian army, realizing that they will at least be paid here.
And, of course, there are a lot of those who are OUR in spirit, whose fathers and grandfathers OUR common Motherland defended. Here is a deep respect for them!

[kocclissi]

Quote: grenz

Most of the 2 thousand are probably zapadentsy.

Many families on the mainland are worried as if this hapot didn’t do anything!

[erased]

And do we need them - all these 16 thousand former Ukrainian military? Can conduct a suitability test? Who will not pass - welcome to the national economy, business and more? And then. among them there may be zealots, and not only from Bandera, but also from blunders, druzyak because of okeana. In a word, it is necessary to understand more thoroughly.

[SkiF_RnD]

Are needed. Not for the growth of army strength. It’s just a sign that we don’t care what will happen to them. They served in the army. Now what? So we were offered them to continue the service. They didn’t make it. I think that’s right.

[020205]

A woman with a cart is easier !!!

[Chifka]

I myself am a servant, and I understand how difficult it is, having made a choice and sworn allegiance to one state, to suddenly oversight to another. Initially, as many say, no one drove them into the Ukrainian army (.... well, except for housing, family, salaries, pensions, the desire for stability, to ensure the future for children, etc.). Nobody drives in the Russian.
If what is written on neighboring branches is true, and they were forced to agree to fight with Russia upon going to Ukraine, and they gave it, then in this case the oath is treason. Moreover, for more than 20 years they have served their country faithfully.
If, nevertheless, they decided to return, so to speak, to their historical homeland, to Russia, then what prevented this from being done earlier? (... Well, except for housing, family, children, salaries, etc. ....).
In short, dear, this is a difficult question. We all know how the warriors lived in Russia about 20 years ago .... But in Ukraine, they at least fed ....
Well, in general, a difficult question.

[Egoza]

Quote: Chifka

Well, in general, a difficult question.

Especially if within two weeks from Kiev NO orders were received !!! Decide, they say, yourself ... Well, that's decided! If this government spit on them, they have the right to spit on this government. IMHO.
Moreover, the oath was brought to the PEOPLE! they didn’t betray the people, they didn’t shoot at their own people, they stayed with the people!

[diversant2013]

RUSSIA has a large part of the border, maritime !!! so there are enough places where you can serve + still good to earn

[Vityok]

Good riddance!

[surovts.valery]

I climbed the sites and forums, there is no fresh news on the transition of ships to the side of Russia, here, far from complete information. I was surprised by the information: "On 54 of 67 vessels of the Ukrainian Navy, including 8 warships and the 1st submarine, the Andreevskie flags were raised." Have questions.
1. Of the warships, according to all sources, only the Slavutich is kept in Sevastopol itself. In Donuzlav, it seems that it remained loyal to the Naval Forces MTSH "Cherkasy", which tried to pull the flooded VM off the fairway and leave, and also, urgently armed with torpedoes.
2. Why do Navy auxiliary vessels resist? What should they lose? Civil crews, from local ones, from the transfer to the Black Sea Fleet will benefit from salaries and other amenities. Or are the military sitting there? Explain who knows.

[biglow]

Quote: surovts.valery

I climbed the sites and forums, there is no fresh news on the transition of ships to the side of Russia, here, far from complete information. I was surprised by the information: "On 54 of 67 vessels of the Ukrainian Navy, including 8 warships and the 1st submarine, the Andreevskie flags were raised." Have questions.
1. Of the warships, according to all sources, only the Slavutich is kept in Sevastopol itself. In Donuzlav, it seems that it remained loyal to the Naval Forces MTSH "Cherkasy", which tried to pull the flooded VM off the fairway and leave, and also, urgently armed with torpedoes.
2. Why do Navy auxiliary vessels resist? What should they lose? Civil crews, from local ones, from the transfer to the Black Sea Fleet will benefit from salaries and other amenities. Or are the military sitting there? Explain who knows.

those who did not give up are waiting for them to be captured then, according to Ukrainian laws, this will not be considered desertion ...

[individual]

No need to blame anyone.
Everyone is free in his decision.
Each soldier, sailor, officer has families and there was time to consult and take his only decision for him.
But when Russia, without obstacles, allowed them to leave Crimea, it was worth a lot.
Those who return to Ukraine will definitely remember and compare the decisions on the withdrawal of each soldier by Russia and the obstacles posed by Ukraine.
Everyone will understand the truth for Russia!

[Zomanus]

Well, yes, it clearly shows the level of trust in the Ukrainian government and the current one in particular.

[scientist]

I hope our "polite people" with each of the less than 2 thousand military men who wished to serve in the Ukrainian army were able to talk face to face and sign the necessary documents.

[Hey]

I think so, when they proposed transferring to the Russian Army and Navy, they said that Russia was a great mother, and probably would have to serve in the north and in the Pacific Fleet, in Siberia and the Caucasus. And everyone who came over knew what awaited him, and that there would be a re-certification, and survival courses. And they made their choice conscious.

[scientist]

Quote: MUD

there will be re-certification, and survival courses. And they made their choice conscious.

Quite possible. Then it turns out in the Crimea there were professionals who are not afraid of this. But the Ukrainian thieves, the hothouse impostors realized that there was no need to take risks, professionals would quickly squeeze them out, and so they made the only right decision.

[Leshka]

did the right thing

[Russ69]

And about. Defense Minister Admiral Igor Tenyukh publicly reprimanded the marine, who said that in Crimea, Ukrainian troops are massively switching to the Russian army.
As a result, the commander at first said that 49 people were loyal to the oath and were ready to leave for Ukraine, but after the passage of Tenyukh, apparently they themselves decided to stay ...
“After what you said on the air, even 50 people will not return to Ukraine. Excuse me, Comrade Admiral, but it’s not possible, ”admitted the Marine Commander.


http://www.politnavigator.net/tenyukh-obvinil-v-malodushii-morpekha-rasskazavshe
go-o-massovom-perekhode-na-storonu-rossii-v-krymu.html

[Pharao7766]

and about. min defense ... would not make people laugh! Still that Judas, and climbs someone to teach.
And the marine is well done. It is a pity that right on the air in the face did not say everything that he thinks.
There will be 50 Marines in the Black Sea Fleet more now.

[Hitrovan07]

The Marine’s gesture is eloquent - these are the ones ... and in power, who are selling their Homeland. Welcome to Russia Marine.

[Hitrovan07]

The Marine’s gesture is eloquent - these are the ones ... and in power, who are selling their Homeland. Welcome to Russia Marine.

[saag]

I do not envy those who decided to return

[Humpty]

I can congratulate you on your choice, but can you trust those who will take the oath for the third time.

[Orik]

Quote: Humpty

I can congratulate you on your choice, but can you trust those who will take the oath for the third time.

I think it is possible, these are historical problems of a single people, it so happened that a single country collapsed. They didn’t swear an oath ...

[Hey]

UKRAINIAN BORDER SERVICE IN A ONE-SIDED ORDER SHUTDOWN AN EXIT FROM CRIMEA TO THE TERRITORY OF UKRAINE - EMBASSY OF THE CRIMEAN FEDERAL DISTRICT

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[sv68]

maybe just one of them really thinks that he needs a new pseudo payment. You don’t look into each person’s soul and find out what’s in there. Do not judge,

[loginovich]

I have not seen such victories. And I have not seen such defeats. Separate Ukrainians and non-Ukrainians doubt Zhulka, Schuster and others in the referendum. I am afraid that they will doubt it afterwards, but no one will believe them.

[Docent1984]

ORDER No.1824 of 22 on March 2013 of the year.

In connection with the successful fulfillment of the combat mission of restoring state authorities in the territory of the Republic of Crimea and taking into account the enormous contribution to the restoration of the territorial integrity of the country, KGB Colonel Ivan Ivanovich MAKOV (operational pseudonym John McCain) was transferred to the reserve with the assignment of the next military rank of Major General and return to the territory of the Soviet Union.

And about. Chairman of the KGB of the USSR A. Bortnikov

[VNP1958PVN]

What was the army led to saying that it threw almost all of its homeland?

[brownie]

Quote: VNP1958PVN

What was the army led to saying that it threw almost all of its homeland?

The natural result of 23 years of "rehforming" and "rozbudovy" (development) of the army.
79 airmobile brigade (Nikolaev) through the Internet encourages volunteers to go to contract service.

http://novosti-n.org/news/read/66984.html

They tried in a "voluntary-compulsory" manner to leave in the service those previously called up for 10-day training, but the relatives defended.

http://novosti-n.org/news/read/66959.html

[Artem1967]

I do not have confidence in the "sworn oath". In a difficult moment, they will betray us too. In short, it is necessary to carefully study the personal file of each "new" Russian soldier. Alternatively, check through remote garrisons of Siberia. If he goes, then our man.

[shelva]

If only the head of success did not spin. You need to keep your eyes open - everything is too smooth.

[ty-min]

let them go in peace and tell everyone that Crimea is now Russian ... and you should always keep your ear sharp ..

[Ppsh]

Here she is such a Ukraine - neither the Commander-in-Chief, nor the Minister, nor the army ...
Tenyuh, give the order - to defend yourself with weapons in your hands, or surrender! No, we’ll star on TV, but we won’t give orders. And to this marine - a direct road to the Pacific Fleet. Serve the guy, in a normal country, where they don’t throw their own, maybe you will forget the mov ...

[propolsky]

I hope that, leaving the Ukrainian lads, they drank 100 grams with the Russian lads, it’s still written together forever, well, a little later ...

[I think so]

They may have had a drink, but your UNShakable conviction "to be together anyway" is not based on reality ... You argue like all Soviet people before the war of 41 - "the German proletariat is our brothers" ... What are you doing "these brothers "on the Soviet land the hair stands on end ... So here too ... The herd does not always HAVE a BRAIN for that, it is a herd ... Therefore, two or three years of hysteria in the media ... total control over EVERYONE ... extermination of dissidents. .. and as a result, new "brothers" will ride on "Leopards" across the expanses of Russia ... Putin slept through the opportunity to save the southeast of Ukraine ... slept ... And now - get ready for war ... although, of course, the war against Russia NEVER STOPPED ... Who doubts, count how many Russian population lost after 91st ... You will be horrified ... according to various estimates, UP TO 41 MILLION! And you say "brothers" ...

[Evgen_Vasilich]

let them come like kakbe

[Santor]

a little off topic
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[msv]

Quote: I think so

They may have had a drink, but your UNShakable conviction "to be together anyway" is not based on reality ... You argue like all Soviet people before the war of 41 - "the German proletariat is our brothers" ... What are you doing "these brothers "on the Soviet land the hair stands on end ... So here too ... The herd does not always HAVE a BRAIN for that, it is a herd ... Therefore, two or three years of hysteria in the media ... total control over EVERYONE ... extermination of dissidents. .. and as a result, new "brothers" will ride on "Leopards" across the expanses of Russia ... Putin slept through the opportunity to save the southeast of Ukraine ... slept ... And now - get ready for war ... although, of course, the war against Russia NEVER STOPPED ... Who doubts, count how many Russian population lost after 91st ... You will be horrified ... according to various estimates, UP TO 41 MILLION! And you say "brothers" ...

Frankly, I have the same panic thoughts at first. But it is quite obvious, upon closer examination, that a light victorious war would result in large-scale bloodshed of fraternal peoples. I think this is Washington’s main dream for the Russians to shed the blood of Ukrainians. And notice the border with the Russian Federation is not the right sector and self-defense of the Maidan.
In Crimea, the Ukrainian Armed Forces did not fight, since the overwhelming support of the people and the Crimean authorities for rapprochement with Russia was obvious. In parts there were many natives of Crimea.
No one knows how things will go further. But in the worst case of the massacre, we reserved the right to defend the southeast. In this case, the Ukrainian military, in spite of the oath, will have to determine who they are: with the Nazis or with the people.

[Khan]

Tell me, who knows how long the Ukrainian military should leave the Russian territory of Crimea? After all, if they do not leave our territory, they are illegal armed groups and are automatically subject to liquidation by the armed forces of the Russian Federation, and not by the self-defense forces of the Crimea, because Crimea is already the Russian Federation.