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On the only submarine of the Ukrainian Navy raised the flag of St. Andrew

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This morning, the submarine "Zaporozhye" began to prepare to sail. According to the commander of the submarine division of the Black Sea Fleet, captain of the first rank, Anatoly Varochkin, the Ukrainian crew divided into opponents and supporters of service as part of the Russian Navy.



“Half of the crew of the submarine is ready to serve and fulfill the assigned tasks, they know their boat and will continue to serve it. Opponents from among the crew left the ship, including the commander ", - said Varochkin in an interview with RIA News.


Together with the submarine "Zaporozhye" in the submarine division of the Black Sea Fleet will now be four units.


The authorities of Crimea announced the nationalization of all state property in the peninsula. This category includes ships and coastal units of the Ukrainian Navy. To date, Russian flags have raised over 70 units and ships.


Recall that in Crimea on March 16 a referendum was held on the status of autonomy, more than 96% voted for the inclusion of the peninsula into Russia. Two days later, 18 March, the parties signed a corresponding agreement. Yesterday, Vladimir Putin signed a law on its ratification and the entry of Crimea and Sevastopol into the Russian Federation.


In Ukraine, 22 February, there was a change of power, with signs of a coup d'état. The Verkhovna Rada removed the legitimate President Viktor Yanukovych from power, changed the constitution and called elections for May 25. Yanukovych said that he was forced to leave the country under threat of physical violence and remains legally elected head of state. Rada’s legitimacy raises doubts in Moscow.

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  1. Tumbleweed
    Tumbleweed 22 March 2014 18: 00
    +21
    She could only sink in the presence of a Russian auxiliary vessel ... But the fact itself is pleasant ... In Europe, it’s time to think about what kind of occupation, when 80% of the army goes to the invaders laughing
    1. Arberes
      Arberes 22 March 2014 18: 13
      +15
      I would not want to be on this boat! It would be in the square, how to put a monument?
      1. Berkut-UA
        Berkut-UA 22 March 2014 20: 50
        +5
        This is the rusty galosh
        which stood for the last 22 years at the pier?
    2. lukke
      lukke 22 March 2014 18: 49
      +15
      Your deeds are wonderful, Lord! - how many times this submarine was the subject of jokes, jokes, etc. from our side in relation to the Ukrainian Navy and Ukraine as a whole. And those on ---- hp this long-suffering boat (not all of course) lifts St. Andrew’s banner! .... I'm slowly digesting the news))))
      1. sniper
        sniper 22 March 2014 19: 33
        +6
        Quote: lukke
        - how many times this submarine has been the subject of jokes,

        Someone from the site users threw a repost;
        Quote from Mojjevel wrote:
        The submarine Zaporozhye refuses to go over to the side of Russia (PHOTO, VIDEO) http://www.061.ua/news/493160 Another hungry sitter

        Quote: Why do we need this tin can? if scrap current ...

        answer: Oh, wei ... and still with whom you have to work .. And these people want to have some kind of gesheft with tours .. So open your ears and listen here carefully ..
        We are redeeming this misunderstanding for quite a bit of money, we put it on wheels for even less money, after which we drag it to Dzhankoy (or even closer) and create a cultural and memorial center named after that very boat in those former steppes ..At the same time, the indignant citizens of Sevastopol give us a monument to Sagaydachny and many other nishtyakov for that because they are sick of it, and we don’t care, but it’s delicious .. And at the exit, we have Disneyland with minimal investments and a good gesheft. .For taking a picture next to that boat any visiting ......deleted by moderator Apollo the chervonets will give .. And how many will be those ........deleted- you can’t even think to yourself ..

        It’s funny, of course, but I don’t quite imagine why Russia needs this whole thing ??? Raise the flags on them .... Maybe wait for the NORMAL leadership of Ukraine and return this stuff? It is clear that it is impossible to give to the fascists, but it may be worthwhile to indicate their position that we will return everything like a legitimate authority ....
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    4. Mikado
      Mikado 22 March 2014 18: 50
      +2
      here it’s not a matter of the ship anymore, but of the crew, they haven’t gone to sea for years, so after the repair they only started to crawl out a little bit there, plus they practically had no personnel left for this
    5. sens99.ru
      sens99.ru 22 March 2014 19: 53
      +1
      How much they spent on a submarine, laughing
      1. rasputin17
        rasputin17 22 March 2014 21: 10
        +2
        zero point and hell tenths !!! everything is purely on the enthusiasm of the personnel and their salary !!
    6. wolfhunter2035
      wolfhunter2035 23 March 2014 13: 50
      0
      You're right! the fact is pleasant! Ukraine will soon be left without a fleet at all! laughing
  2. Rus2012
    Rus2012 22 March 2014 18: 01
    +5
    The Black Sea Fleet submarine division will now have four units:
    1. Alrosa
    2. ex Zaporozhye
    3, 4 -?
    1. T-100
      T-100 22 March 2014 18: 05
      +4
      She’s 44 of the year, she’s only for scrap, she can’t compete with the modern ones)))
    2. Rus2012
      Rus2012 22 March 2014 18: 19
      +5
      3. There is one diesel-electric submarine B-380 "Hero of Sevastopol Artyom Titarenko" of project 641B "Som" - delivered to the fleet in 1981. The boat is in the floating dock "PD-16" in the South Bay of Sevastopol, awaiting a decision on its further fate, i.e. completely incapable of combat.

      4. B-261 Novorossiysk of the 636.3 project, which the fleet intends to hand over this summer
      1. Jaros81
        Jaros81 22 March 2014 18: 52
        +3
        In my opinion, the B-380 is now called "Holy Prince George", and earlier it was called "Gorky Komsomolets."
        By the way, project 636.3 "Varshavyanka" in addition to "Novorossiysk" is building 1 boat, 2 laid down, another 2 signed a contract. Entry into the fleet by 2016. Everything will go to the Black Sea Fleet.
    3. clidon
      clidon 23 March 2014 12: 21
      0
      There will actually be two of them - two there in the form of ghosts. "George the Victorious" under permanent repair-reserve-preparation for decommissioning and a charging station.
      By the way, "Zaporozhye" of them is the most running - "Alrosa" does not go to sea yet, although it has undergone repairs.
  3. konvalval
    konvalval 22 March 2014 18: 04
    0
    Good news! Glory to the Russian Navy! Glory to Russia! Thanks GDP.
    1. Com T-64a
      Com T-64a 22 March 2014 18: 07
      -6
      Hooray! We seized a bunch of scrap metal from Ukrainians !! Glory to GDP?! Yes, it’s only on the target ...
      1. gfs84
        gfs84 22 March 2014 18: 42
        +16
        This is no pennant, and it’s not a matter of iron, but of people - a team! Let only half the team, BUT these are our Sailors, Midshipmen and OFFICERS!
        These are not just people - these are fates! The fate of Russia!
        И
        Hooray! We seized a bunch of scrap metal from Ukrainians !! Glory to GDP?! Yes, it’s only on the target ...
        the irony is not appropriate here!
        1. Arhipov440
          Arhipov440 23 March 2014 21: 27
          0
          RESPECT, SUPPORT. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      2. rasputin17
        rasputin17 22 March 2014 21: 16
        +3
        What no but this is a combat unit! And as a ship, it requires respect, especially since it is a Soviet ship!
  4. les103284
    les103284 22 March 2014 18: 05
    +5
    It is difficult to say how much this floating craft will be useful to the Russian Black Sea Fleet. But, like a trophy, let it be!
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 22 March 2014 18: 11
      +5
      Photo report on test dives July 2012
    2. Arberes
      Arberes 22 March 2014 18: 30
      +6
      Quote: les103284
      It is difficult to say how much this floating craft will be useful to the Russian Black Sea Fleet.

      Or maybe some kind of hf to remove with her participation! Well, for example, about the Caribbean crisis?
      Will it really come out of nothing?
  5. vjatsergey
    vjatsergey 22 March 2014 18: 19
    +11
    Yes, let them even go to the Russian Navy on an inflatable boat, the fact of the transition is important. Less will be willing to shoot at the people.
  6. dimarm74
    dimarm74 22 March 2014 18: 21
    +2
    Really ... what are two more boats in the Black Sea Fleet submarine division? Alrosa only there seems to be all, well, + Zaporozhye .... no way 4 fails. Maybe there is someone from Sevastopol ... will clarify
  7. osv_osv
    osv_osv 22 March 2014 18: 23
    +2
    Good news. But their boat should be scrapped. And it is extremely important for the Black Sea Fleet to have modern (low-noise boats) on alert duty
    1. Patriot.ru.
      Patriot.ru. 22 March 2014 19: 32
      +2
      Although noisy, though not noisy. And the submarine was taken under control because it is very dangerous.
      1. Igor39
        Igor39 22 March 2014 19: 48
        +2
        Some submarines take control, other wineries ...
        To each his own.
        1. Patriot.ru.
          Patriot.ru. 22 March 2014 20: 06
          +1
          As I understand it, you set a minus. I repeat once again, submarines are dangerous even so old.
  8. dr.star75
    dr.star75 22 March 2014 18: 24
    +6
    It is unfortunate that the Russian army has to choose which flag to fly under. This probably could not have happened even in Hitler’s sweetest dreams ... But now we have what we have, and we need to proceed from this. The reality is that those who are now in the territory or under the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation are fighting for the Russians. Unfortunately the rest are only on the side of the occupier! Therefore, any transitions to our side are categorically welcome!
  9. GAndr
    GAndr 22 March 2014 18: 31
    +5
    As an option, a training boat just right ...
  10. 77bob1973
    77bob1973 22 March 2014 18: 31
    +3
    It’s interesting that the Ukrainian ship crews will remain in their places to serve? I think the crews should be disbanded and scattered among the fleets, which also swore allegiance to the Russian ground units.
    1. clidon
      clidon 23 March 2014 12: 23
      0
      It is better to demobilize them in a year (with the exception of those who have especially distinguished themselves) and that's it. One time they violated the oath, they will violate it a second time, if again "the power changes."
  11. tantalum
    tantalum 22 March 2014 18: 41
    +8
    "A pile of scrap metal", "I would not like to be", "only as a monument" well, all the experts are around. The fact itself is important in the first place! Secondly, this is not a defector with a rifle, but a submarine with most of the crew. Thirdly, the Russians have always been famous for the fact that they could win even with those weapons that cannot compete with all kinds of modern ones. And fourthly, who said that our opponents have everything super modern?
  12. falcon
    falcon 22 March 2014 18: 43
    +5
    << Half of the submarine's crew is ready to serve and carry out the assigned tasks .. >>
    I have no doubt that this is the best and most half of the crew! :)) But the other half is direct
    the road to the Ukrainian national economy (because Ukraine does not have another submarine) However, Ukraine
    most likely, there is already no national economy. :))
  13. Leshka
    Leshka 22 March 2014 18: 52
    -3
    if it is repaired and modernized, then a normal thing will turn out
  14. Chifka
    Chifka 22 March 2014 18: 52
    +2
    They would be neater !!! Raise the flag - the windage will change dramatically - if there is a draft, it will turn over and sink again, God forbid !!! Or blow her off to the side of Turkey ...
    1. tantalum
      tantalum 22 March 2014 18: 58
      +5
      Familiar with this problem? Often changed flags?
  15. Seamaster
    Seamaster 22 March 2014 19: 00
    0
    The boat passed under the flag of Russia and was dragged to the pier where the Alrosa is.
    In my opinion:
    1. The crew is of no value to the Russian fleet - they have no diving experience. Dissolve home.
    2. The boat also does not represent combat value, it is dangerous for the crew itself. But - the ship deserved. I would solemnly bring it in tow to great depths and flood it with honors. By the way, many foreign fleets do just that.
    3. About half of the captured ships are also completely unsuitable. Deserved ships - with honor to flood, the rest - on needles.
    4. Landing ships ("Konstantin Olshansky", "Kirovograd" and others) - with a reduced crew to use as ferries through the Kerch Strait.
    After the construction of the bridge - write off.
  16. avt
    avt 22 March 2014 19: 18
    +2
    Quote: Seamaster
    3. About half of the captured ships are also completely unsuitable. Deserved ships - with honor to flood, the rest - on needles.

    request Why drown that fright? Iron costs money. But "Sharp-witted" pr 61 should have been left with the "Commune" as a museum in Sevastopol - they did a great job.
    Quote: Seamaster
    4. Landing ships ("Konstantin Olshansky", "Kirovograd" and others) - with a reduced crew to use as ferries through the Kerch Strait.

    It’s too bold to drive the BDK like a ferry, it’s also like a Syrian express, well, then they’ll sing a Varyag with one minesweeper in the roadstead, clowns from the West laughing , even in Nefedovka they say - they sang the anthem and left, the rest are all against the wall under our flag.
  17. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 22 March 2014 19: 48
    +1
    All one would sell ...
  18. exiv200gt
    exiv200gt 22 March 2014 19: 49
    +3

    Home Port - Sevastopol
    Launching - May 29, 1970
    Current status - in tests after repair
    Main characteristics
    Ship Type - Large Ocean DPL
    Designation of the project - project 641
    NATO classification - “Foxtrot”
    Speed ​​(surface) - 16 knots
    Speed ​​(underwater) - 15 knots
    Operating immersion depth - 250 m
    Ultimate immersion depth - 280 m
    Autonomy of swimming - 90 days
    Crew - 83 person
    dimensions
    Surface displacement - 1 952 t
    Underwater displacement - 2 475 t
    The greatest length (on design waterline) - 104 m
    The width of the body naib. - 7,4 m
    Average draft (on design waterline) - 5,9 m
    weaponry
    Torpedo-mine armament - 6 bow and 4 stern TA caliber 533 mm, 22 torpedoes or 32 mines
  19. Wiruz
    Wiruz 22 March 2014 19: 52
    +4
    Well, that target for promising torpedoes was found. And what about Sagaidachny? "Heroically" holding back the onslaught? laughing
  20. exiv200gt
    exiv200gt 22 March 2014 19: 53
    +2
    The same boat in 2007
  21. shelva
    shelva 22 March 2014 19: 53
    +3
    Whatever it was, but passed to US and with the crew. Otherwise someone else's boat would have dangled "underfoot" in the Black Sea.
  22. Sevastopol
    Sevastopol 22 March 2014 19: 56
    +13
    Janissary it's time to come back !!!
    this story was cut at a show in Uraine
    1. Cossacks
      Cossacks 22 March 2014 20: 32
      +9
      Piercing roller. I had to visit a similar situation. I'll go slap a hundred. Kills a tear.
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    3. Tatarus
      Tatarus 23 March 2014 03: 38
      +1
      Glory to the Russian Officers
  23. Seamaster
    Seamaster 22 March 2014 20: 15
    +2
    Cutting ships into metal is a very difficult and costly affair.
    Our ships mainly sold abroad for cutting.
    And those that were going to carve with us are darkness!
    Back in the 90s, on an island against Bakaritsa in Arkhangelsk, I saw burnt out (ships burned before cutting), sunken, but not cut, captured German SKRs. Trees have grown through them already.
    Now cutting ships mainly Turkey, China, India, Pakistan are hunted.
    And solemnly to flood the deserved ship is not a shame.
    It’s like betraying the body of a well-deserved veteran to the earth, and not passing it to the anatomical theater for bablosiki.
  24. Seamaster
    Seamaster 22 March 2014 20: 15
    +1
    Cutting ships into metal is a very difficult and costly affair.
    Our ships mainly sold abroad for cutting.
    And those that were going to carve with us are darkness!
    Back in the 90s, on an island against Bakaritsa in Arkhangelsk, I saw burnt out (ships burned before cutting), sunken, but not cut, captured German SKRs. Trees have grown through them already.
    Now cutting ships mainly Turkey, China, India, Pakistan are hunted.
    And solemnly to flood the deserved ship is not a shame.
    It’s like betraying the body of a well-deserved veteran to the earth, and not passing it to the anatomical theater for bablosiki.
  25. Seamaster
    Seamaster 22 March 2014 20: 20
    +5
    According to the article on Censore.net.ua "Sagaidachny" heroically defended the territorial waters of Ukraine from the invasion of 4 ships and 2 attack helicopters.
    They persuaded him and threatened him on the radio - and he both went to them, how frightened them!
    They fled with shame.
    Narodishko rejoiced at the Censor.
    And in Odessa, they keep the poor fellow in the raid - they are afraid that the crew will scatter.
  26. Seamaster
    Seamaster 22 March 2014 20: 20
    +1
    According to the article on Censore.net.ua "Sagaidachny" heroically defended the territorial waters of Ukraine from the invasion of 4 ships and 2 attack helicopters.
    They persuaded him and threatened him on the radio - and he both went to them, how frightened them!
    They fled with shame.
    Narodishko rejoiced at the Censor.
    And in Odessa, they keep the poor fellow in the raid - they are afraid that the crew will scatter.
  27. Cossacks
    Cossacks 22 March 2014 20: 45
    +2
    Something I forgot which box in 91 arbitrarily raised the Ukrainian flag. Please tell me.
  28. loaf
    loaf 22 March 2014 20: 53
    +3
    Place this boat in the museum. This is history.
  29. crambol
    crambol 22 March 2014 21: 15
    +2
    Quote: Seamaster
    And solemnly to flood the deserved ship is not a shame.

    And it is impossible to reproach and shame the sailors - they took the oath and honestly served their homeland, the flag.
  30. rasputin17
    rasputin17 22 March 2014 21: 24
    +7
    We must pay tribute to these boats !!! In the late 60s and seventies, they dragged on themselves half of all combat duty in the waters of the oceans on a par with nuclear-powered missile carriers !! And in our environment of submariners, submariners of diesel boats are a special caste !! I went ascribed on a diesel engine and compared to a nuclear submarine the conditions there are much tougher and there are more risks !! It happened that fresh water was cherished and shared !!
    1. crambol
      crambol 22 March 2014 22: 29
      0
      Which fleet?
      1. rasputin17
        rasputin17 23 March 2014 10: 55
        0
        KSF! 9E-7DAPL-K-47! my 4-44-11!
  31. komel
    komel 23 March 2014 01: 20
    +1
    The head of the Kiev regional branch of the "Right Sector" Igor Mazur believes that the Ukrainian military fleet should have been withdrawn from the Crimean waters a few weeks ago. Now all that remains is to sink our ships so that they do not go to the Russian invader.
  32. Skifo
    Skifo 23 March 2014 02: 24
    0
    Keep it up!
  33. pulemetchik_39
    pulemetchik_39 23 March 2014 14: 06
    0
    A similar boat, Kaliningrad. Great museum! The memory must be tangible, then it is better stored.