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Ukrainian drama. Replica of Fyodor Lukyanov

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Ukrainian drama. Replica of Fyodor Lukyanov



The reunification of the Crimea with Russia, and in general the events in Ukraine, brought back to the agenda the question of compatriots abroad, or more precisely the Russians, who after the collapse of the USSR turned out to be foreigners, on the spot. Today, the theme sounds completely new. Not only in the context of an injustice committed in the past, but above all from the point of view of our future.

The Soviet Union was divided along administrative lines drawn by the Soviet state builders, and they naturally proceeded from the fact that the unity of the Union could not be called into question. This is not to say that culturalhistorical factors were not taken into account at all, but there were other motives - from political to purely economic.

In the 1990-ies, relations between Moscow and the former Soviet republics, or rather, they were called "new independent states", were only established. Hot disputes boiled over whether to recognize the border that went to our country. First of all, it concerned Ukraine, which gained its present form thanks to the Soviet secretaries general.

Nevertheless, the country's leadership decided that raising the issue of revising the demarcation lines is not appropriate, since it is fraught with conflicts, even before military clashes. Bearing in mind the state of Russia at that time, it is difficult to reproach the Kremlin for indecision - it was more important to quench the momentum of disintegration that almost spread to the Russian Federation itself than to try to acquire additional territories.

However, the issue was not resolved once and for all. First, there are no unshakable boundaries at all, and there has not been a century when they would not be seriously revised. Secondly, it was not about abstract hectares and square kilometers, but about people who remained outside their own homeland apart from their will.

Russia's policy towards compatriots was not consistent. At times, they were simply forgotten, they say, very hard. At times they paid attention to current political issues, for example, when conflicts arose with the Baltic countries. The system of “soft apartheid” adopted there, dividing residents into citizens and non-citizens, is certainly a blatant example of injustice.

However, in a number of countries, for example, in Central Asia, the real situation of Russians and Russian speakers is much worse (although there is no formal discrimination). But for one reason or another, Moscow preferred not to spoil relations with the leaders of these states. And since Russia often showed indifference towards the diaspora, abrupt steps to protect compatriots, as in August 2008 th or March 2014 th, cause mistrust. Be that as it may, it is now that the question of Russians abroad acquires a coloring that was not there before.

Russia is looking for a new identity that should replace the one that has been exhausted along with the Soviet potential. The idea of ​​the "Russian world" is becoming part of self-identification. Not in the sense that the emphasis is on nationalism. God forbid, it would be destructive in our case. The Russian diaspora is a rich source of human capital, and this is the world's most intense competition for this resource. And compatriots, that is, people of the same language and culture, obviously do not carry with them problems that are associated with the influx of migrants of a different origin.

Due to the demography of Russia, in the 21st century, Russia will have to face the need to attract intellect and labor from outside. Gathering people, creating attractive conditions for them comes to the fore. This will require an active and well-considered migration policy. There are many countries in the world whose experience is worth exploring - from Israel, which accepts all compatriots, and Germany, which sets certain criteria, to "melting pots" - the USA, Canada, Australia.

The Ukrainian drama has already served as a catalyst for discussions about facilitating the acquisition of Russian citizenship by residents of Ukraine or all residents of the CIS. A step in the right direction, although liberalization alone is not enough. We need special procedures for selecting the desired migrants and regulating the influx - the Russian society must get used to the new situation. And to feel that openness gives in the modern world more than attempts to close and shut off.
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  1. W1950
    W1950 22 March 2014 06: 14
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    It’s just that Russia needs to be raised faster, the economy should be raised faster. We are a self-sufficient country, God didn’t offend with talents, but the distortion in the economy puts us on the bandwagon. And the stronger we are, the faster the former republics will reach us and not look into the mouths of amers.
    1. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 22 March 2014 06: 35
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      This will require an active and thoughtful migration policy. There are many countries in the world whose experience is worth studying - from Israel, which accepts all compatriots, and Germany, which puts forward certain criteria, to "melting pots" - the USA, Canada, Australia. (from article)


      In Russia, its experience is enough, for example Siberia is the same "melting pot" of nations, which does not give the advantage of any one nation.
      The Bolsheviks, and then the Yeltsin liberals, really brought a fly in the ointment into this "cauldron of nations" in terms of creating national republics, and now, according to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, even "states"
      Article 5 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation
      ...
      2. The republic (state) has its own constitution and legislation.

      which slowed down the "fusion of nations" in Siberia, and gave rise to elements of separatism, chauvinism and a certain oppression of non-titular nations, now in some regions of Siberia, called "national republics (states)".
  2. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 22 March 2014 06: 15
    +4
    There are many countries in the world whose experience is worth exploring - from Israel, which accepts all compatriots, and Germany
    It’s time to collect compatriots on Russian lands already .. The lands are heaped with natural resources, there is money too .. Russia is on the verge of another jerk cadres need specialists .. Return the people of the Golden Mountains do not promise, but there are a lot of work in all areas!
    1. Duke
      Duke 22 March 2014 06: 22
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      .Russia on the verge of the next jerk cadre specialists are needed .. Come back people of the Golden Mountains do not promise, but there is a lot of work in all areas!

      The development of the Far Eastern and Siberian lands is an example of this.
  3. redka
    redka 22 March 2014 06: 16
    +1
    RUSSIA needs to restore the title of GREAT POWER. Gather people, the territory of the former USSR. Many want to return to their homeland, we need to help them do this. Thanks to Putin, Lavrov, Churkin-they are real patriots of their country. GO RUSSIA !!!
  4. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 22 March 2014 06: 16
    +3
    from the Don.
    Well, that's right! Only the local bureaucracy works wonders. A friend left the Uzbeks 18 years ago, is still not a citizen of the country, although the children are 13 years old as citizens of Russia!
    1. redka
      redka 22 March 2014 06: 19
      +1
      There are a lot of such people in the country. Now they seem to have simplified the entire procedure for acquiring citizenship.
  5. delfinN
    delfinN 22 March 2014 06: 20
    +7
    The Soviet Union was divided along the administrative lines drawn by the Soviet state builders ...
  6. Sergg
    Sergg 22 March 2014 06: 21
    +3
    The collection of Russian lands NECESSITY for the survival of the Russian world. It is highly desirable that historical justice be accomplished and the lands of southeast Ukraine become part of Russia. And let the whole world squeal and yap, I assure you will sink and stop, and we will have new lands and, most importantly, people.
    1. Igor39
      Igor39 22 March 2014 06: 40
      +1
      I think that it’s enough to develop land in Russia for a thousand years, but with human potential
      not very good, although the mat.capital stimulated the birth rate to a large extent. The resettlement program does not work well, people are not interested, would they start some kind of construction and call families there, or else they suggest going to Golokhuevka who will go there?
  7. YRAL59
    YRAL59 22 March 2014 06: 22
    +1
    To collect, so to collect. Indeed, many people want to come, they oppress strongly, but they will come. There is nowhere to live, passports, no registration, they do not take work.
  8. Humpty
    Humpty 22 March 2014 06: 28
    +1
    I can not completely agree with the position on the complete exodus of Russians to the administrative borders of Russia. Among the new states and quasi-states
    Russians are indigenous because many generations live, built villages, cities, plowed fields, gardens on those lands that had not been plowed for 300-400 years. Russians there are also a state-forming people, because formed statehood where it was not, established international borders by treaties.
  9. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 22 March 2014 06: 28
    +1
    There is no need to rush ... But there is nowhere to pull further. Overseas partners simply will not "write off" $ 5 billion, they need a result. Bardak said that the US military presence in Ukraine was out of the question! Today the opposite is true. They themselves are pushing Russia to take another step ... request
  10. Filon
    Filon 22 March 2014 06: 41
    +1
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Lands heaped

    Quote: redka
    Many people want to return to their homeland. We need to help them do this.

    Duc program of assistance to compatriots was and is, - back in 2000. read the provisions of the program at the Russian Embassy in Chisinau. In fact, there were very few people who wanted to use this program. And there is a quite banal explanation for this. The program meant (then, in any case, as now, I don’t know, I won’t lie) ... So, the program meant assistance in purchasing housing, cash benefits, employment, taking into account specialty and wishes, and a lot of other things. It would seem, "just HONEY!" But resettlement was not supposed to be in the regional centers, not to mention Moscow and St. Petersburg. And the people, having become interested in the beginning, turned up their nose like that "little bird" from the monologue of one humorist: "Aaaa! I knew it! negative "Why, everyone wants to climb onto the Christmas tree (yes, so that they bring the ladder, spread it out and hold it), and well ... don't get ripped off: both the salary is higher, and the apartment is more comfortable and in a more modern house, and with a view of Red Square .. Or Palace Embankment, at worst ... Yes, and so that travel is free and movies on Saturdays!
    Lip rolled out - roll back!
    So I fully understand and share the statement of VVP from five years ago: "Who wanted to leave (to Russia) - has already left. "The rest have every right to fuss now as they please.
    1. tokin1959
      tokin1959 22 March 2014 07: 08
      +3
      you're not right.
      I know many Russians personally who come to Russia without any resettlement programs and cannot obtain citizenship.
      live for 10 years, even beat all the thresholds, and it’s useless.
      there are even cases of deportation of Russians back to the republics of the former USSR.
      resettlement program - there is also a line and red tape, not as rosy as you wrote.
      Themselves here we write on the forums - the Russians do not abandon their own - but in fact - "The rest have every right to fuss now as they please"
  11. saag
    saag 22 March 2014 07: 08
    +1
    Quote: Filon
    So the program of the help to compatriots was and is, - still in 2000. read the provisions of the program at the embassy of the Russian Federation

    Interesting girls are dancing, this program saw the light of day in 2006, and you saw it already in 2000,

    Quote: Filon
    So I fully understand and share the statement of VVP from five years ago: "Those who wanted to leave (to Russia) have already left."

    Do not rush to assent to the president, no one will appreciate it, people with moving have different circumstances in life
  12. blizart
    blizart 22 March 2014 07: 25
    +1
    And compatriots, that is, people of the same language and culture, obviously do not carry with them the problems that are associated with the influx of migrants of a different origin

    I would not say so unambiguously, many Russians who left Kazakhstan did not return because of material reasons, but precisely as a result of elusive changes in mentality and as a result of the wary attitude of local Russians. No, of course, if you don’t find yourself in either Kyrgyzstan or Tajikistan, you can’t run anywhere and give yourself up, but for now, my Russian wife and I (though pierced through with Russianness) intend to sit in the south of Kazakhstan and give our knowledge and experience to a society that is further and further from us . However, we have the option of leaving for Korea, which is also undesirable, such a bl .. the trilemma is the need to choose between three equally weak options.
  13. igordok
    igordok 22 March 2014 07: 39
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    One of the comments at http://inosmi.ru/sngbaltia/20140321/218835140.html#ixzz2wc229PyC
    I read it today on Censor.net and copied it. Five minutes later this post was erased. This is such freedom of speech in Khokhlostan.
    21/03/2014, 15:32
    Writes a Ukrainian who loves his country.

    …………… ...
    "Are you asking how we are? We are all very bad.
    It’s bad, of course, for me and people like me - Ukrainians who speak Ukrainian in the Crimea.
    I look at these joyful faces, at this general jubilation, and I clearly and distinctly see: the Crimeans hate us. They hate anyone who speaks at least a word in Mov. And I'm not exaggerating. Everything that concerns Ukrainians, everything that is somehow connected with the "Ukrainian" evokes in almost all Crimeans not just rejection, but a whole storm of emotions. These emotions are extremely negative in everyone, from children to the elderly. After all, this was not even close even with a scoop. Yes, when the scoop in Crimea, Ukrainians were treated here a hundred times better than now - after 23 years of being a part of Ukraine.
    How could this happen?
    How did you have to try to make people so enviously hate all the fibers of the soul with everything (I emphasize EVERYTHING - from embroidered shirts to a flag with a coat of arms) Ukrainian? This is scary. We have lost Ukraine.
    And this is not Putin's fault. And our unknown Russophobes from memory are to blame for this. This is our fault. It was us - the Ukrainians from Poltava, Cherkassy, ​​Kiev, Khmelnitsky, Zhytomyr, Chernigov from all of central Ukraine, who allowed these morons Galychians to establish their Nazi order over all Ukraine.
    Remember! Remember how during the feasts we picked up their Bandera songs, how we laughed together with them at the jokes “I’m going to do it, I’m dusting the dust” "and other" maps "with" policemen "and" cathedra ".
    We were indifferent to the establishment in their cities and villages of monuments to those who shot in the backs of our grandfathers in the Second World War. Then they "by chance" began to put portraits of Bandera and Shukhechiv at their meetings. And then march in the open, first in their own, and then in our cities with SS flags and fascist slogans. We deliberately closed our eyes to this: "Well, they have their own history, you have to understand ...". And these - THEIR monuments began to appear here too ...
    1. igordok
      igordok 22 March 2014 07: 40
      +1
      They called us "skhidnyaks", the entire South-East - "slaves", "scoops" and "descendants of Stalin's, I am a Nazi muzzle, sky executioners", and the miners "a bunch of bandits. Living with the same bunch of" angelics ".. And we , of course, realizing that this was not so, they patted them on the shoulder in a friendly manner, "Come on, there are normal people there ..." We let them go to Kiev. And Kiev, Kiev! silently watched as the visiting Galychanians and students from ZU are marching with torches in honor of Bandera's birthday along Khreshchatyk, and these marches became more and more numerous from year to year.
      They rewrote our entire history.
      Our ancestors, according to this story, became worthless "poturakams of the Russian empire" and their collaborators, raguli and nonentities - new heroes of Ukraine. We swallowed that too.
      When in Kiev, during the Maidan, they began to beat in the metro for Russian speech (and this in Russian-speaking KIEV) to the Russian-speaking Kievites it was deeply on the side, "anizhedeti" frolic, they are against Yanukovych, it is somehow inconvenient a place. They crap and destroyed the entire center of Kiev, and we were silent here.
      Now we get the answer. For our indifference, for our cowardice and for our stupidity. WE LOST UKRAINE. She will never again be not only within the former borders, people have changed. The bowl of patience in the Southeast is full. Ukraine turned out to be an evil stepmother for them, with a mustache under their nose and a swastika on their sleeves.
      You will have to leave Crimea. I have not a single argument for the Crimeans against their fair hatred of this half-witted stepmother Ukraine. "
      Reply | Total posts in the thread: 1. Expand branch
      Victor_1: Natalia Dobrynskaya,
  14. AVIATOR36662
    AVIATOR36662 22 March 2014 08: 25
    +2
    Quote: tokin1959
    you're not right.
    I know many Russians personally who come to Russia without any resettlement programs and cannot obtain citizenship.
    live for 10 years, even beat all the thresholds, and it’s useless.
    there are even cases of deportation of Russians back to the republics of the former USSR.
    resettlement program - there is also a line and red tape, not as rosy as you wrote.
    Themselves here we write on the forums - the Russians do not abandon their own - but in fact - "The rest have every right to fuss now as they please"


    This is no longer a drama, it has become a tragedy for millions of our compatriots. It is so problematic (because of bureaucratic delays) and so costly (banal bribes for a positive decision of any Of course, nothing is written about such costs in the Federal Law of the Russian Federation on citizenship, but this very nuance is the real reason that our compatriots cannot obtain Russian citizenship for 10-20 years. even those young people who have already served their military service in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are denied. The Russians are poor, forced to leave their former places of residence. To put it mildly, even here the Russians do not withstand the competition of purses. incitement of any hatred. Will the situation generally move after the events in Ukraine in general and in Crimea in particular? opinions, although I would like to. One thing is beautiful promises and the adoption on paper of some steps in this direction. Another life. In life, decisions should be made by living people (employees of the Federal Migration Service), and they are so "accustomed" to their "bread" places that optimism is very, very small. Let's see! Grandiose marches all over the country under the slogan "We do not abandon our own" is a good and very costly thing. But this business has been given an order from above. -Real, and not in a loud voice at rallies?
  15. sv68
    sv68 22 March 2014 08: 36
    +3
    until the bureaucrats really begin to massively plant for bribes and expel from their posts, not one thing in our country will budge. I know very well several Russians who simply broke down before our bureaucratic system
  16. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx 22 March 2014 09: 19
    0
    I think more and more people will be shaving the Russian Federation which themselves are idefying as carriers of Russian culture, it does not have to be Russian in origin
  17. Gagarin
    Gagarin 22 March 2014 09: 23
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    How many talented and hardworking people FORCEDLY left since the 90s, that would be to return.
    THE CHINESE MIRACLE WAS Eclipsed!
  18. Sma11
    Sma11 22 March 2014 13: 42
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    And we have such figures wassat
    1. tokin1959
      tokin1959 22 March 2014 16: 34
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      This is disguised Goering.
    2. voliador
      voliador 23 March 2014 02: 19
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      It seems like she was whole, and she will die. Who is looking for such a thing ... already. That accumulated anger.
  19. voliador
    voliador 23 March 2014 02: 15
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    The Ukrainian drama has already served as a catalyst for discussions on facilitating the acquisition of Russian citizenship by residents of Ukraine or all residents of the CIS.

    Nah ... we have such catalysts. No relief for them but blizzard. And so already these cheburashka came in large numbers! A severe restriction on entry, for attracting illegal immigrants to work - fines and prison sentences for merchants!