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Pebbled skin of our independence

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Pebbled skin of our independenceHonore de Balzac, whom Ukrainian schoolchildren hardly ever read, and at best heard of such a writer from their parents, brilliantly described all those metamorphoses in which we were unhappy to be. Alas...


A young man, Rafael de Valentin, wanted to drown in the river Seine, but before an hour of settling accounts with life, he went into an antique shop, where he acquired a talisman - shagreen leather. On its back was squeezed text in Sanskrit, which promised the owner of the artifact fulfillment of all desires, but in exchange for reducing the size of the skin and, accordingly, the owner's life. “With every desire I will descend, as if your days. Do you want to own me? Take it ... so be it! ”

The geographical and political map of modern Ukraine reminds me of balzakovskaya shagreen skin. Those who 22 February seized power in the country with the help of armed force, still have not realized that, in addition to the protest Maidan, there are citizens in this country who do not support Kiev. After the overthrow of the “wicked Vlada”, the new power, as in the case with the Balsakov hero, obtained the desired, but shagreen skin diminished. A new political elite is unable to make wishes and at the same time not lose anything. Ambitions do not correspond to the possibilities, despite the support of the whole retinue community.

Our Prime Minister A. Yatsenyuk asked the UN Assembly V. Churkin a question that worried the new government most of all: “Do the Russians want war?”. Churkin, of course, replied that they did not want to. Arseny Petrovich heard the answer and on his return to his homeland made a convincing appeal to the Ukrainians. His speech was based on the principles of the catechism, when the lecturer himself asks the question and answers it himself. That is, the listener does not have, according to the speaker, other options for answering questions that he himself asks.

Arseny Petrovich was convincing, I will not hide. He spoke extremely seriously, in Russian, outlined the moments of the country's rupture and suggested methods for its combination. He promised unprecedented freedom to the regions, both financial and ideological. But even if he is not cunning, but sincerely believes in his program, how is this possible in the foreseeable future?

Which of the activists of the "Right Sector" voluntarily hand over firearms weapon? NO ONE.
How can political tolerance and respect for dissent be combined, say, in relation to the South-East, if some of the new Kiev ministers are carriers of neo-Nazi ideology? NO.
When will the arrests of the leaders of the protest movement in the same South-East stop? NEVER.

We 23 year said that tomorrow will be better than yesterday. The young people who supported the protest against Yanukovych did not see the bulletins and agitations of 1991, which were stamped under L. Kravchuk for a referendum on our independence. On one side were, actually, questions about independence, and on the back side - a detailed decoding of how Ukraine feeds the entire USSR, and if it (Ukraine) stops doing this, then any citizen will be able to buy three cars for one year.

Comrade L. Kravchuk! I have long wanted to ask you: where are my 69 (23x3) cars? Probably in the same place as our Black Sea Fleet, as I understand it? We all years of our independence live with a stable idiosyncrasy to our “politicians”. They all the time tell us tales about the great future of the country and don’t give a finger to make this tale come true. Nightingale fables can not be fed for a long time - will die.

I personally do not believe all the promises of “new” politicians. I am fed up with these bright prospects for future happiness. Who wanted to build a state, he has already done it. After all, you probably do not know that Belarus is still being given FREE apartments? Of course, I do not know what Ukrainian TV channel will tell about this? More important for us is the heating of the Russophobic theme. We have free apartments are distributed by you know to whom. Those who yesterday opened criminal cases against maydanovtsev, and today with a speed worthy of surprise, opens up cases against anti-Maidan. The law is harsh ...

After the collapse of the USSR, we had neither the past nor the future, only promises of how wonderful everything will be tomorrow. And so 23 of the year. The only pity is that shagreen leather, which has covered the whole of Ukraine, is squeezing, crushing ordinary citizens, and not those who make wishes.
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  1. HMR333
    HMR333 23 March 2014 16: 00
    +19
    meeting in Odessa 23
    http://o1.ua/live/obscheodesskiy-miting-ni-shagu.html
    1. Chuck-norris
      Chuck-norris 23 March 2014 16: 05
      +105
      Actually)
      1. de klermon
        de klermon 23 March 2014 16: 16
        +33
        Independence in the minds of the post-Soviet princelings is to take crumbs from any table, just to demonstrate how independent they are from Russia! Apart from Lukashenka, Nazarbayev and Aliyev (I don’t think so about them) everyone, everyone was just looking for someone to stick to or in whose composition they could join! The "elites" of Ukraine, Moldavia, Georgia, the Baltic States and others do not know how to live independently and only dreamed of exchanging one metropolis for another! However, my attitude towards Ukrainian politicians by no means extends to that part of the Ukrainian people who remember who their grandfathers are and that they are part of the victorious people! Yes, and on those Georgians, on whose cheeks tears were flowing when sa-a ... oh, what kind of president blew up monuments to the heroes of the Great Patriotic War ...
        1. jjj
          jjj 24 March 2014 00: 48
          +6
          Then, on March 22, the state of emergency occurred during a live broadcast.
          Permanent Representative of Russia to the European Union Vladimir Chizhov, was at the Andrew Marr Show. The main topic of the program was the crisis in Ukraine. The presenter quoted Senator McCain as saying that "Moldova will become the next (country)" to become part of Russia.
          To this Chizhov replied: "Tell McCain - let him watch Alaska," and added that "Alaska was part of Russia."
          Then Chizhov noted that it was a joke.
          It’s a joke, but more than 7,5 thousand votes were left on the White House’s website on a petition to return Alaska to Russia
          1. GRune
            GRune 24 March 2014 07: 30
            +3
            Yesterday it was like 93 with a penny when I voted ...
            1. GRune
              GRune 24 March 2014 07: 58
              0
              Damn, I have difficulties with the translation. Indeed, 7,5 thousand were now 11 already.
              1. infinite silence ...
                infinite silence ... 24 March 2014 12: 29
                0
                13 170 already)))))))))))))))
        2. jjj
          jjj 24 March 2014 00: 58
          +9
          Only today were two puzzles of Vladimir Vladimirovich puzzled. First - we are for the territorial integrity of Ukraine
          Second, the Bolsheviks recklessly annexed Russian lands to Ukraine ...
          So, we are for the territorial integrity of Ukraine within the borders of the seventeenth century.
          And Vladimir Volfovich so directly declares this
        3. CALL.
          CALL. 24 March 2014 11: 44
          +2
          I personally do not believe all the promises of "new" politicians. I am fed up with these bright prospects for future happiness. Those who wanted to build a state have already done this. You probably don’t know that in Belarus they still give out apartments for FREE? Of course you don’t know which Ukrainian TV channel will talk about this?

          The annual GDP of present-day Ukraine per capita is $ 3860. For comparison: the poor of Albania - $ 4000. Neighboring poor Poland and Russia overtake Ukraine by GDP almost FOUR TIMES - $ 13 and $ 300, respectively. Latvians dying and scattering from their land have a soul of $ 15. And now the most annoying thing for Ukrainians: Belarusians neighbors (whom Ukrainians consider sly and svidomo “stupid scoops”) - 000. Twice as much. What a bummer!
      2. Siberian19
        Siberian19 23 March 2014 17: 05
        +31
        WE ARE ONE PEOPLE DON'T REDUCE ON THE PROVOCATION THIS WILL LEAD TO A FRIENDLY WAR!
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 23 March 2014 20: 51
          +5
          Quote: Siberian19
          WE ARE ONE PEOPLE DON'T REDUCE ON THE PROVOCATION THIS WILL LEAD TO A FRIENDLY WAR!

          A shitty call, justified by the fear of confessing not only to the deed, but the desire to pretend to be caring Slavic brothers ... And a couple of weeks ago they literally yelled about free Ukrainians and slaves of the Russians.
          "I change my conscience to Bandera Maidan!".
        2. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx 23 March 2014 22: 52
          +16
          Quote: Siberian19
          WE ARE ONE PEOPLE DON'T REDUCE ON THE PROVOCATION THIS WILL LEAD TO A FRIENDLY WAR!

          we were brothers right up to the moment when the Nazis began to march along your streets ...
        3. Kot bazilio
          Kot bazilio 23 March 2014 23: 08
          +11
          Who is your brother? Am I the same people with Yarosh and Tygnybidl? With their gopniks? Turchinov? With Avakakov? With eggs? With Kolomoisky? With a timothy? With abramomobama? What do you smoke? author, kill yourself the wall, I apologize for the Albanian ... fool
      3. submelt
        submelt 23 March 2014 18: 50
        +3
        How did they prosralize that country? How did the Nazis get warmed? Why did they observe in silence? Why now shout KARAUL ?! Who should help you if you yourself do not want to help?
        1. Maverick78
          Maverick78 23 March 2014 20: 43
          -8
          Now I will answer how. Just as you did it to Putin. End the hysterics about how we warmed the fascists. For 23 years an information war has been waged on our territory against Russia and against Russians. Our entire elite is corrupt. What were your fucking intelligence agencies doing? A powerful propaganda machine was working against you and us. Why are you, so smart, betting on a thief, a convict, and just a (in a bad sense of the word) Which I did not do either for my people or for normal relations between our countries. Also your actions like "trade wars" and other things. If you think you did the right thing - give facts, evidence, and not stupid propaganda excuses. Now your media have been talking for months about the total banderization of Ukraine, where Russian-speaking people are being killed right on the streets. This is a lie !!! I am a Russian speaking Ukrainian. I AM RUSSIAN. I do not hide this, I try to explain to people what is happening. But to the question "why are they lying about us? After all, there is nothing of this here. Why did they attack?" I cannot give a normal answer that the majority can understand. Telling the geopolitical situation over the past 100 years in conversation with everyone is a dead-end path. And it is impossible to answer these questions in a few sentences. And if you watch our media, and then listen to yours, then this is really aggression, because yours lie, and ours also lie, but more convincingly.
          Since the Maidan, the attitude towards Russia has worsened greatly, many people who have never been noticed in sympathy for Bandera are ready to fight with you. I would describe this condition as mass hysteria. The only way out of you (unless of course you want to get hostile brothers on your borders) is to tell the truth. Everything is as it is. Trying to act in the style of the Americans (that is, stupidly lying to cover up your interests) you will always lose to them. Your (and ours) power is in the TRUTH. And so your media only selects few chances to change the situation in our common favor.
          And further. If you want to be understood by the population of Ukraine - stop talking about Great Russia with Ukraine as a part. Do not understand. There is something that unites us - RUSSIA. It is from there that we are called RUSSIAN. We all got out of there. And we’ll go in there (at least we’ll try)
          1. s.cot
            s.cot 23 March 2014 21: 33
            +18
            Hello! Those. is it our fault )) And stop talking about the confrontation between Ukraine and Putin! Confrontation between the USA and Russia. Ukraine (no offense) is just a place of confrontation and, possibly, a demarcation. When it became clear that the new government would run for help to the West, and there they would say yes, yes, whatever you want, only the Russian Fleet will be thrown out, and we and the dough is immeasurable, and we’ll easily put up the NATO base in the EU (so that the invaders do not climb), quickly and harshly reacted. And with what kind of sauce all this serves, it doesn’t matter.
            1. Maverick78
              Maverick78 24 March 2014 03: 11
              -1
              I never talked about the confrontation between Ukraine and Putin (there is a geopolitical alignment in my post). You yourself say-the confrontation between Russia and the United States. They act .. you - well, if you consider this an action - then do not be surprised at what is happening.
              Did you only realize in February about the new government? Well, you could ask me ... about where these people would run it was known many years ago. And what was done by you to create a counterbalance to them? NOTHING. I consider this either a direct betrayal of Russian interests at your top, or this is the level of your tops (we thought the convict would be kept in a stall)
              1. s.cot
                s.cot 24 March 2014 04: 30
                +2
                About "Putin and Ukraine" it is you who fell under the distribution (after the Ukrainian sites came here))). They knew about the government and predicted, all the same, you can't prepare such an operation in a day. About the counterbalance, they seemed to be up to the throat of their own affairs, and they tried to reach the last agreement. I can't see it well from Siberia, but the war in the Caucasus is going on quietly and Volgograd for the New Year and the Olympics, and there were 2 more wars. So think for yourself. I read about the truth somewhere: the one who speaks the truth is always a loser, tk. he is limited by this truth, while a liar can carry anything. This is to the top post. Catching the truth on TV is useless.
                1. Maverick78
                  Maverick78 24 March 2014 04: 40
                  +2
                  And what should I think - I can see everything) I see how they drag my Homeland to the west, I saw what would happen if Maidan won, and I saw that your intelligence agencies either didn’t yet reveal all the cards (which I really hope) or leaked the situation (but this is completely shitty)
              2. acute
                acute 24 March 2014 10: 25
                +1
                Yes, why do we have to do something for you. Slurp that cooked and do not blame Russia. And if you tell such a psychic when you will lead the current government on the Maidan
                1. s.cot
                  s.cot 24 March 2014 12: 39
                  0
                  What did you attack the person? Go to ukro.sites and try to debate there. Ura-patriots have enough keyboards everywhere ...
                  1. acute
                    acute 24 March 2014 13: 15
                    +1
                    Nobody attacked or called on him (as in Ukrainian). Then he does not want to discuss with us, but pushes one thought that all the actions of Russia are wrong. Then discussing on a computer is not a problem. But have you directly encountered them ?. This is worse than bandits in 90 years. Morally zombied against Russia. Worked for a long time in China. Foreigners will see each other greeting, trying to talk. Ukrainians (crews of ships), having heard that you speak Russian or ignore you at all, or pass by without even saying hello. And if you live in China for a long time, you have no idea how desirable it is to communicate with fellow countrymen. Most of them are imprisoned against Russia
                    1. s.cot
                      s.cot 26 March 2014 10: 44
                      0
                      The fact is that at least the person speaks normally. On those Ukrainets. Sites where I was, there was a complete zvizdets "Putler, annexation, Moscow * to her knives", etc.
                      In the North, I worked with different people, the only division is what kind of person you are. I never remember to be national. Although, a Negro would certainly be exotic)).
              3. yastr
                yastr 25 March 2014 11: 17
                0
                Stop hanging our government on us.
          2. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 23 March 2014 21: 36
            +10
            Quote: Maverick78
            Why are you, so smart, bet on a thief, a convict, and just a (in the bad sense of the word)

            Because YOU, Ukrainian citizens chose him.
            You have something that is not the president - that is a thief and a crook. Are there more honest people in Ukraine?
            Quote: Maverick78
            And so your media only selects few chances to change the situation in our common favor.

            There are no others ... But it is better not to talk about the Ukrainian media - the word "sucks" is the softest thing that can be said about IT.
            Quote: Maverick78
            If you want to be understood by the population of Ukraine - stop talking about Great Russia with Ukraine as a part. Do not understand. There is something that unites us - RUSSIA. It is from there that we are called RUSSIAN. We all got out of there. And we’ll go in there (at least we’ll try)

            Can not argue...
            Only the division of Russians and Ukrainians started from the Talmud of the underdevelopment-Kuchma. What does Russia have to do with it?
            1. Maverick78
              Maverick78 24 March 2014 03: 27
              +1
              I did not vote for him. Since 2004 I have been voting against everyone - for there is no one. But again, back to geopolitics - they have their own agents, all sorts of Yatsenyuk, Yushchenko ... although they are scum, they are quite competent, but where is your answer? yanyk? Then I repeat - we are not surprised at what is happening.
              About the media. It’s bad that even you don’t have others. Ours now work on patterns and in close conjunction with the Western. Your weapon against them is only the truth. And you do not give it. 87 percent turnout at the referendum .... do you yourself believe in that? Well, they said at least 65-70%.
              Now about division. The division into Russians and Ukrainians began VERY long ago. Kuchma had not yet been born. And Kuchma's book is called "Ukraine is not Russia" And this is exactly what I wrote about. Russia is the same constituent part of Russia as Ukraine and Belarus. Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians are ONE, an artificially divided people. But divided with our help. Russia fell due to the fact that the princes could not determine who was the most important and correct. Therefore, now we have what we have.
              1. GRune
                GRune 24 March 2014 07: 39
                +3
                A turnout of 87% is a fact. The fact that you do not believe in it and everywhere you see cheating is your problem!
              2. v-sorok
                v-sorok 24 March 2014 09: 19
                +1
                You became independent from Russia with great pleasure !! How could we protect you from the intrigues of the nationalists? You say that WE did nothing for this? Do you suggest that we conduct special operations on the territory of "free" Ukraine? By the forces of our special services? So that the West poured slops and barks on Russia again? And what have you been doing for 23 years ??
              3. acute
                acute 24 March 2014 10: 35
                +7
                That sucks that did not vote, but Russia is to blame. And about the referendum, why did you stick to Russia, it was full of Western observers. It is your misfortune that you do not have access to information. You read what you have written and understand what you are driving towards. It seems that the thoughts about one people are right for you and about Russia it seems right, but your rejection of all Russian, the whole history of our country, is surfacing. You are not alone in this assessment. There are a lot of such people in Ukraine, your brainwashed clearly and your enemy pointed. That's just so your rulers will not last long. Soon you will have other enemies. With what face will you appear before you speak Russia ?. With the Nazi Harey, disgustingly smiling and asking for help from a neighbor?
              4. shark
                shark 24 March 2014 13: 04
                +2
                And I agree. 23 years for the mediocre state "Ukraine" and the same number of years for Russia's mediocre policy towards this very Ukraine. Roughly speaking, given our capabilities, in every city of Ukraine a rebel battalion, armed no worse than the American special forces, had to sit and wait for a signal from the center. The media were supposed to broadcast not the American point of view, but the Russian one. Zheto-blakitny prapor should induce vomiting at the level of reflexes. Why was this not done? Why did we arrive in blissful inaction? I certainly understand that NONE of the Russians took Ukrainian independence seriously and will not apply. But we were obliged to monitor "our clearing". Now it is more and more difficult. It turned out that the Ukrainians are not eager to join Russia (who would have thought)))), it turned out that they were ready to go to war with us ... That wedge that was driven in between our ethnic groups, it will not so easily resolve. And yet. I strongly doubt that our special services have a trump card in their sleeve related to Ukraine.
                1. acute
                  acute 24 March 2014 13: 20
                  +1
                  You can’t even imagine what nonsense you write. They only began to put themselves in order, but according to your words, in every city it was necessary to keep a battalion. Either Yugoslavia was about ... but people asked for Russia. Oh you woe politician
          3. datur
            datur 23 March 2014 21: 53
            +19
            Maverick78 --- again this is your old song, Ukrainians !! all but themselves are to blame !!!!! again, we don’t say that, you don’t understand how we trade with them (so white and fluffy), just, we don’t cover events that way ---- you just got it, jump on for the game carrot !!
            1. Danafxnumx
              Danafxnumx 23 March 2014 22: 57
              0
              Quote: datur
              again, we don’t say that, you don’t understand, we trade with them (so white and fluffy)

              for a long time it was necessary to completely stop subsidies to their economy ...

              and we all felt sorry for them ... eh ...
            2. Maverick78
              Maverick78 24 March 2014 03: 51
              +4
              I see you're not at all in the subject.
              We have all this time (and I suspect that it began during the Soviet Union, only secretly) a powerful campaign against you has been going on. Stupidly wash out the brain. Every year it is more and more difficult to prove and explain something to someone. And you yes ... don't say that. You are trying to tell us what we ourselves see live, just not as it really is. Just like the USA. Only they have almost complete control of the world's media, and it is much easier for them to get on with it. Based on this, I will say again - your weapon is only the TRUTH. Well, you need to act on the truth (all sorts of espionage and sabotage things are naturally not included here). And first of all, you need to start with your country. And then you have the same oligarchs, only pocket ones, the same bribe officials, the same cops (I know, I have a lot of friends and relatives in Russia) So they show us a picture from Europe, a picture from you. So far, the comparison is not in your favor. And no matter how much you try to explain to people that Europe lives on credit and someday it will have to be repaid, they do not understand this. So they jump for the game room. And we have no one to rely on. And you also add oil. During the Maidan, I rubbed a corn on my tongue, knocked my fingers into the blood on the forums, explaining what was happening and who was behind it all. Even convinced several Bandera (real Bandera, not invented) And then - Crimea. You should have heard this howl. "We told you. They just want to take our land. They are aggressors and occupants by nature."
              1. oracul
                oracul 24 March 2014 09: 04
                +2
                A strange feeling: it seems to be true, but it seems not. In managing people, there is such an approach when the question of the destruction of the positive image of something or someone is raised: to speak believable, but not necessarily truthful. Therefore, it is always important to understand the purpose - why the conversation is being started. It looks like for this: "I even convinced a few Bandera (real Bandera, not invented) And here - Crimea. You should have heard this howl." We told you. They just want to take our land. They are aggressors and invaders by nature. "And what can I tell them now, when it is enough to watch your news for a day to make the desire to believe disappear forever." An interesting movie turns out. It is suggested to tell you the truth "advantageous", but in no case to act. What is it for - just to buy time. We have waited 23 years in the hope that the Ukrainian authorities will come to their senses. It turned out that they did not wait a bit. Well, yes, as you know, Moses led the Jewish people in the desert for 40 years. There is not much left - 13 years. The first shoots of a brown future are already visible - how young the "revolutionaries" are and how willing they are to punish their opponents. Therefore, there is no time for respectable discussions in the halls and is not expected. Because there is a third party - the West, which acts using everything that is possible and what is not.
                1. shark
                  shark 24 March 2014 13: 22
                  0
                  Yes, the situation with Crimea was, as they say, ahead of schedule. Maverick, what would you choose — Crimea as part of Ukraine with NATO bases or Russian Crimea?
                  1. Maverick78
                    Maverick78 25 March 2014 11: 08
                    0
                    With Crimea, it was not just an advance, but as an attempt to save at least something, i.e. with delay.
                    I am for Crimea as part of Ukraine with a life-time basis for the Black Sea Fleet. And only if the NATO bases are located (not necessarily in the Crimea, but anywhere in Ukraine) then yes - take what you have time. And do not forget me))
              2. Danafxnumx
                Danafxnumx 24 March 2014 09: 22
                +1
                Quote: Maverick78
                And you yes ... do not say that. You are trying to tell us what we ourselves see live, only not as it really is.

                May you not understand ...

                Cho wanted to say something?
              3. acute
                acute 24 March 2014 10: 42
                +1
                Well, first of all, why is this land "yours"? They asked you from Crimea, and not only from Crimea. What kind of oligarchs we have, we will figure it out without you. But yours have not even touched, but only scared, as they merged the country. Which of the Banderaites you re-educated there is a big question, but on this site, you are unlikely to find supporters for yourself. Re-educate the rest. Flag in your hands
              4. demon184
                demon184 24 March 2014 12: 49
                0
                Crimea was not related to Ukraine but there will be Bendery’s power, we will take the rest of the gifts.
              5. Good cat
                Good cat 24 March 2014 14: 40
                0
                I agree with many, BUT CRIMEA IS NOT YOURS !!!!
              6. Tandar
                Tandar 24 March 2014 19: 51
                0
                Crimea is not your land!
            3. infinite silence ...
              infinite silence ... 24 March 2014 12: 39
              +1
              Be careful ... DON'T EVERYONE JUMP!
              I can not agree with most of the words spoken here by you and your opponent! am

              But. You are BOTH subject to agitation. Now you do not need to look for the guilty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

              NOW IT IS NECESSARY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
              AND THIS IS NOT ONLY THE PROBLEM OF UKRAINE !!!!!!!!
              THIS IS A PROBLEM - SLAVES !!!!!!!!!!!

              LET DEPOSIT BETWEEN THE INFLUENZA! IT IS NECESSARY FOR OUR ENEMIES !!!
              1. acute
                acute 24 March 2014 13: 06
                0
                But many are ready. Solve the problem, or should Russia wait again?
              2. infinite silence ...
                infinite silence ... 24 March 2014 13: 14
                +1
                Yes, minus as much as you like! I am from Eastern Ukraine!
                It's my opinion! Only by uniting we can drive this scum to hell!
                1. acute
                  acute 24 March 2014 13: 26
                  0
                  I didn’t minus you, what do you think our soul doesn’t hurt for you ?. We know what you are facing, that they are trying to catch you one by one. We know that you are scared for families. But us and so Europe and America are nailing sanctions, people lose their money (not the oligarchs). You also try to stand in our place. An open conflict? You’ll be the first to overlay us.
                  1. infinite silence ...
                    infinite silence ... 24 March 2014 14: 25
                    +1
                    The fact that people are losing money now ... And the fact that we can lose the future of our children !?
                    Money ... Everything that you can buy for money is CHEAPER !!!
          4. Vanya2013F
            Vanya2013F 23 March 2014 22: 44
            +3
            At the expense of Putin, you're right, before him was a complete ass like you have now.
          5. Danafxnumx
            Danafxnumx 23 March 2014 22: 54
            +12
            Quote: Maverick78
            I am a Russian-speaking Ukrainian. I AM RUSSIAN.

            another officer daughter?
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 23 March 2014 23: 35
              +3
              Quote: DanaF1
              another officer daughter?

              The cause of the children of Lieutenant Schmidt lives and thrives ... laughing
            2. Kot bazilio
              Kot bazilio 23 March 2014 23: 52
              +1
              Grandchildren, not otherwise!
            3. Maverick78
              Maverick78 24 March 2014 03: 53
              0
              Almost guessed. The son of an officer.
              The Ukrainian, like the Russian, is more a territorial concept, well, or a state one. And Russian is national.
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          7. Kot bazilio
            Kot bazilio 23 March 2014 23: 27
            +6
            "Why are you, so smart, bet on a thief, a convict, and just a (in the bad sense of the word) Which I did not do either for my people or for normal relations between our countries." - A good question after answering another good question - what did we, as smart as we are? And what did the oranzhoids do in the first coming - hubby to the US departments + Kolomoisky's protégé - razosra ... three months later, in power and arranged a perederiban? Now on all UkrTV there is a "social advertisement" that Crimea, attention, "could become a riviera and compete with the resorts of Spain e ctr" - who prevented from doing this for 23 years? Okay, Yanukovych is a thief and. But who prevented him from making this very river from Crimea? Again damn m ... and?
            "And if you watch our media, and then listen to yours, then this is really aggression, because yours lie, and ours also lie, but more convincingly." - Yours - m. and more convincing - thank you, laugh. By the way, who is this - yours?
            A simple example - NTV showed 2 rallies in Moscow - in support of Crimea, the second - in support of Ukraine. The air time is approximately the same. And're coming out 1 + 1 and others like them-only a rally in Moscow in support of Ukraine. Well, what about the "caught SBU" spies with 2 wide and long "daggers"? And why without knightly armor? Must be in armor, because "the knight of the cloak and dagger" !!!!
            "Stop talking about Great Russia with Ukraine as a member. We don't understand. There is something that unites us - RUSSIA. It is from there that we are called RUSSIANS. We all came out of there. And we will enter there (at least we will try)" - RUSSIA is what ? Some kind of upper sphere of a single sloppy fusion? They told me, I don’t know what, like an unreasonable child!
            1. Maverick78
              Maverick78 24 March 2014 04: 22
              -4
              But we can’t do anything. Who should we choose from? About oranzhoidov - by. About them the alignment was known even before the first Maidan, but the people again stupidly divorced. And bred further. And they will breed. And if you think that I am at least in some way supporting these kovs, you are greatly mistaken. But he could not go for the yanyk either, because he was the same.
              A simple example.
              You watch, for example, 1 + 1, or STB (I don’t watch the 5th channel since the first Maidan). I hear the following. Russian media talk about crowds of Bandera, about the infringement of Russian-speaking people, about the massacre. I switch to Ros Media - it is. I grab an ax and run into the street. There are no Banderites. to the basement - also not. Near the monument to Shevchenko - no. I understand that they may have disguised themselves. I called my friend Bandera - "have you decided to infringe on me?" - "What are you, God be with you" Conclusion - 1 + 1 told the truth and NTV - lied. And what prevented NTV from giving a real deal. How many Bandera supporters are, where, by whom they are financed, by whom they are supported. What is planned in the future. After all, our intelligence services are corrupt, and we do not know anything, but I hope everything is all right with you? Or am I wrong?
              Or about the referendum. Turnout 87 percent ... cross. After all, we have many friends of acquaintances and relatives in the Crimea. There was no such appearance and close. Well, name a more real figure. And so the world media will still convey you with their power in influencing the crowd, and thinking people who may be your allies have an unpleasant aftertaste. Because they see that they are lying and one and the other.
              Where are you from? If from Ukraine, then in general I should have understood. I just also can’t write each letter in detail. And if from Russia - then damn what a manner for each criticism addressed (and fair) to respond in the spirit of such. Yes, we are not white and not fluffy, but the goal is that it is not us who has been creating in the world lately, but you. Russia is stopping them, and it is they who they want to destroy you. Perhaps with our help. Slavs against the Slavs. Russians vs Russians. Ingenious. And you only help them so far.
              1. Native grandfather
                Native grandfather 24 March 2014 06: 33
                0
                Quote: Maverick78
                Yes, we are not white and not fluffy, but the goal is that it is not us who has been creating in the world lately, but you. Russia is stopping them, and it is they who they want to destroy you. Perhaps with our help. Slavs against the Slavs.

                Yes, I agree. Ukraine is no longer the goal for the West. Since there’s nothing left of you. No influence on the Black Sea, no economy, no power, no politics. Only clowns appointed in Kiev and ... Well, here I am silent, so as not to offend you.
                But personally, your problem is different. After all, it is you who divide us all into YOU ​​and WE, although at the same time you harass the teachings of the first Ukrainian president. After all, it is you who do not know the history of either the world, or specifically the Russian people. Yes, with us (I take your analogy of the division of peoples) it was like yours and it could become even worse. But Putin appeared. And he showed the enemy a cookie with the collapse of Russia. Selling cops with us? Bazaar zero. There are such. And not only cops. One Makarevich is just what it costs. Is everything okay in Europe? Well then, we are not to blame for the fact that advertising cards are your standard. You call yourself the son of an Officer, a Russian Ukrainian. Based on their logic of things, your father served in the USSR. Without even knowing the whole story, just ask your father what he served for, from whom he defended his homeland? Is Europe good with America? And how many nationalities are there with their national ethos living with the full support of the state? How much was it? Take an interest and it may come to you that our grandfathers defended and what Russia now wants for all who live in the territory of present-day Ukraine. And this I am not talking about the current goals of the global global economy and the policies of states.
                It is already good to rake the dirt of the gateways of Russia, which is enough in all countries of the world. Think at least for a second over the question "why?" 1) Why is all this happening? 2) Who benefits from it (your oligarchs have nothing to do with it)? 3) And what will be the result in this or that variant?
                Answer is not required. We already know. And you?
                1. Maverick78
                  Maverick78 25 March 2014 11: 15
                  -1
                  WE are living in Ukraine. YOU living in Russia. About the people and everything else - wrote. Turning on the brain - let’s understand. Not understanding - ask what is incomprehensible. A rider without understanding - into the forest. Everything is just like a door.
              2. acute
                acute 24 March 2014 10: 57
                +3
                Underneath you all, you seem to get the right basis for Russia, etc., but we do not call you and your kind to live in Russia. We have a lot of our shit. Like you in Ukraine but for God's sake. What are your claims against us ?. Well, your journalists are writing correctly, and it’s good that you grab your ax from ours. We don’t grab your axes from yours. And the Bandera people you all know, everything is fine with you, it’s not clear what you want ?. That our journalists would not write anything about you7 This is unlikely. Do not like it - do not look. I don’t look yours - it makes you sick. Calm down and shut your mouth, do not agitate Bandera for Russia. We don’t need such friends. And the normal ones will figure out who they are along the way (Crimea)
                1. Maverick78
                  Maverick78 25 March 2014 11: 25
                  0
                  And I don’t want to live in Russia. I would like - I would live, I repeat the relatives and friends I have there, from St. Petersburg to Vladivostok.
                  If everything was in order with me, I would not write here. And so you and I seem to be on the same side, but you set a black-and-white filter for yourself and because of this you cannot see the situation as it is.
                  And further. You’ll be closing my mouth when we meet, otherwise there’s a lot of courageous people through the monitor.
              3. shark
                shark 24 March 2014 13: 28
                +2
                Well, but the colorful pictures with torchlight processions and yak shouting at Gilyak, are our media shooting in the pavilions of the Mosfilm? The problem is that you believed in the illusion of Ukrainian independence. You want to live in this country. This is a mistake. Ukrainians do not have any other option than living in Russia.
          8. bif
            bif 24 March 2014 00: 14
            +5
            Quote: Maverick78
            The only way out of you (unless of course you want to get hostile brothers on your borders) is to tell the truth. Everything is as it is.

            I recommend http://www.warandpeace.ru/ru/commentaries/view/88935/
            "It is funny and sad to watch the throwing of Ukrainians on social and information networks: they appeal to the" brotherly people "and the friendship of peoples, then they send the latest curses, then they urge all Russians to go to rallies, then they promise to send and send coffins with Russian soldiers to Moscow . Ukrainians, being a southern people, romantic, dreamy-tender, think that something else can be changed ... "
          9. maxxdesign
            maxxdesign 24 March 2014 00: 21
            +4
            that's great! they spread fascism in the country - Russia is to blame ... you will freeze in winter without gas - Russia is to blame! ... and where were your special services? why didn’t they and didn’t give out to Russia those criminals who were declared internationally rozyzsk? Sami crap their country-themselves out of shit and get out! Help you again, and the day after tomorrow a new egg will come and you will stab us in the back!
          10. tolancop
            tolancop 24 March 2014 00: 31
            +5
            “Now I’ll answer how. Just as you did it to Putin. Finish the hysterics about how we warmed the fascists. For 23 years, an information war has been waged on our territory against Russia and against the Russians. All of our elite is corrupt. What did your fucking special services do? a powerful propaganda machine worked for you and us. Why did you, so smart, bet on a thief, a convict, and just a (in the bad sense of the word) .... "
            Again, Russia is to blame. Citizens of Ukraine, WE, citizens of the Russian Federation, have the right to ask our authorities unpleasant questions regarding the situation in Ukraine and what our intelligence agencies have been working on. But YOU have no such right !!! This is YOUR country and what exactly YOU answered in it. YOU and no one else. It was YOU who elected your own presidents and parliament. And now there is no need to whistle against the Russian Federation.
            1. Maverick78
              Maverick78 24 March 2014 04: 34
              0
              So ask the hell out of you. Ask them the question of why they have only a thief and gan.don yanyk as an alternative to Western agents (yusch, yatsenyuk). Why are there pro-Western agents in the SBU, but not pro-Russian? Or I appoint SBU too?
              I do not relieve myself of responsibility for what is happening, but even tens of thousands of people like me cannot really do anything against CNN, BBC, and others, against hundreds and thousands of paid, specially trained political strategists, sociologists and other "experts" Because while I trying to cure the brain 2-3 - they are washed by thousands.
              1. acute
                acute 24 March 2014 11: 05
                +1
                We did not climb both the United States and Europe to your country. Well, you like to be with them. Why did your Yatsenyuk and Europe not sign an economic agreement? You drove Janek for it
          11. nnz226
            nnz226 24 March 2014 01: 40
            +4
            dear! Thank God you don’t remind that there were traitors in Russia in the WAR (Vlasov, for example). The difference is one! Even the alcoholic, the first prize in Russia, did not call the traitors "fighters for a free Russia"! And in the square ?! Another goat first prizIdent nezalezhnaya, has already begun to talk about the "heroes of the UPA"! And then more. It came to the awarding of the poor Yushchenko Bandera and Shukhevych with the titles "Hero of Ukraine". And after that, you can still do business with this territory ?! Noneshny district has not yet put forward the idea of ​​making Adolf Aloizovich (if you have brains and didn’t jump on the Maidan to the countdown for morons "who doesn’t jump, he is ...") and you know who I’m talking about, an honorary citizen of the hero-city of Kiev ?!
            1. GRune
              GRune 24 March 2014 07: 50
              0
              And even at the first rewriting of history books, they began to receive grants from the USA and Canada ...
          12. Camouflet
            Camouflet 24 March 2014 04: 13
            +3
            Quote: Maverick78
            And if you look at our media, and then listen to yours, then this is really aggression, because yours lie, and ours also lie, but more convincingly.

            I sympathize with you, dear.

            I advise you not to watch the Kiev channels. After viewing them every day for one to two hours, you can very soon become a patient of a fool.

            And the second, explaining the truth to people is an empty lesson. The clever will understand himself, and the fool will when he gets tired.
            1. Maverick78
              Maverick78 24 March 2014 04: 48
              0
              do not sympathize with me. I watch channels only in order to know what else these dodges came up with.
              But you are wrong with the explanation. 90% has no idea what is happening in the world. You even look at the comments of our Russian brothers on this site. The vast majority are not at all in the subject. If you don’t explain to them, then when they themselves understand, it may be too late.
              You basically see for yourself. Almost no one understood correctly what I wrote. I'm certainly not a journalist, but still)))
              1. acute
                acute 24 March 2014 11: 09
                0
                Re-read what you wrote. Even if we are not in the subject, then I think you have everything in the subject in Ukraine. Therefore, decide your questions yourself. For whom can it be late? For you? It's too late for you
              2. Russian102RUS
                Russian102RUS 24 March 2014 13: 18
                0
                It’s good to pour water from empty to empty, propaganda has worked and is working everywhere, we must admit that Russia was not up to its closest neighbors, after the rule of Gorbachev and Yeltsin, they themselves just started to curse themselves, it is clear that Russia has lost a lot over these years (Georgia, Yugoslavia , Serbia) and here is Ukraine?
                Society, decomposed and decomposed by all available means, change our traditional values, kill culture and education, corruption, nepotism flourishes, etc. (and this happens, not only in Ukraine).
                Russia is ready and in power now help Ukraine! There is nowhere to retreat any further, it remains only to resolve the issue with those who will come to power in Ukraine in the coming years, and whether they will be able to rectify the situation, since the current government (rabble of holy fools) should go down in history with shame ...
              3. Russian102RUS
                Russian102RUS 24 March 2014 13: 18
                0
                It’s good to pour water from empty to empty, propaganda has worked and is working everywhere, we must admit that Russia was not up to its closest neighbors, after the rule of Gorbachev and Yeltsin, they themselves just started to curse themselves, it is clear that Russia has lost a lot over these years (Georgia, Yugoslavia , Serbia) and here is Ukraine?
                Society, decomposed and decomposed by all available means, change our traditional values, kill culture and education, corruption, nepotism flourishes, etc. (and this happens, not only in Ukraine).
                Russia is ready and in power now help Ukraine! There is nowhere to retreat any further, it remains only to resolve the issue with those who will come to power in Ukraine in the coming years, and whether they will be able to rectify the situation, since the current government (rabble of holy fools) should go down in history with shame ...
          13. acute
            acute 24 March 2014 10: 22
            0
            This is where you heard about Ukraine as part of Russia ?. You do not sing songs for us all over Ukraine. It is different, like Russia .. Only at the moment you have found the enemy. Who has found? Yes, your poor. But time will pass (maximum 6 months) and then you will have another enemy. Do you need enemies ?. Otherwise, how to justify what is happening to you. And about how Russian you can tell Mrs. Nyuland. She will surely believe it, only do not tell us fairy tales
          14. Evgeniy-111
            Evgeniy-111 24 March 2014 15: 50
            0
            Enter Russia with Bandera or what?
          15. yastr
            yastr 25 March 2014 10: 52
            0
            "Why are you so smart bet on a thief, a convict?"

            In fact, it was you who chose his type, and it was for this reason that I had to deal with it.
            And there is a slight difference: “many people who have never been seen in sympathy with Bandera are ready to fight with you. I would describe this state as mass hysteria,” but we do not have this. And it is not our fault that the Russians, who were called Ukrainians, chose this path. If there were no fertile soil, then nothing would come of it.
            They are ready to fight .. * luck ..
        2. revnagan
          revnagan 24 March 2014 12: 43
          +2
          Quote: sub-melting
          How did they prosralize that country? How did the Nazis get warmed? Why did they observe in silence? Why now shout KARAUL ?! Who should help you if you yourself do not want to help?

          Hey, swimming, you sailed for too long ... Americans wanted to get concrete results in Ukraine. For this they’ve 23 years! Invested in Bandera, put officials on the financial hook, headed by presets. 23 years, the West financed Galitsaev to to put a government loyal to him in Ukraine by force. All this time, Russia supported the Ukrainian presidents, who turned a blind eye to Western financing of Bandera. I am not saying that I was among those people who in 2004 were to ensure victory for Yanukovych in the electoral districts in Russia. I stayed in a Moscow hotel for three days then. There were hundreds of people from Ukraine. And you say that Russia did not support Yanukovych ?! What countermeasures, steps taken by Russia to create anti-Galich resistance? How can ordinary citizens provide worthy resistance to creeping occupation when against Western financing and their own power? Now you are heroes, but we, of course, are traitors and are to blame for the fact that Bandera gained the upper hand .Well, what about Lugansk, Kharkov, Donetsk? See how the Maidanutis are persecuted from there, and where is the support? 23 years in occupation, you try, live, a hero. Save your language and beliefs, convince zombies, educate your son with a Russian person, and then talk about traitors.
      4. GRANATE-19
        GRANATE-19 23 March 2014 19: 06
        0
        A! K! T! U! A! L! B! N! O !!!!!
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    2. platitsyn70
      platitsyn70 23 March 2014 16: 09
      +14
      For 23 years, storytellers have ruled politics in Ukraine, compared to Hans Kristian Andersen, he has a rest, Ukrainians can not buy noodles directly from their ears, and people believe they impudently lie, they believe. Zhirinovsky said something like this is our sheep about the Central Asian country, that’s where there are 48 million sheep and most importantly in the east and in the west.
      1. platitsyn70
        platitsyn70 23 March 2014 16: 18
        +7
        On the Crimean peninsula and on the eastern border with Ukraine, Russia accumulates military equipment and weapons intended exclusively for offensive operations.

        This was stated by former First Deputy Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Admiral Igor Kabanenko on the BTB television channel on Saturday.

        “The last few months have been the creation of offensive and strike groups, including in the Crimea. There are military indicators that testify to this. For example, the concentration in the Crimea of ​​multiple launch rocket systems "Hurricane". This is a powerful system that allows you to hit manpower, weapons, equipment, infrastructure over a considerable distance, this is an exclusively offensive weapon system, ”said the admiral.

        According to him, these are also Su-24 aircraft, front-line bombers, which are located at the Guards airdrome in Crimea with full combat load.

        “Su-24 is a powerful front-line bomber that can operate in the operational depth, on the territory of more than 1000 km. That is, these are serious and very powerful things that are aimed specifically at our state, at its continental part. In Crimea, this offensive weapon simply has nothing to do, ”Kabanenko said.

        The admiral noted that two army corps, the 3rd and 20th, are also concentrated on our eastern borders, also with offensive weapons.

        “Every day and today I also receive information about the arrival of new echelons to our borders with offensive weapons, with armored, artillery systems, etc.,” said the former First Deputy Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces.

        “We know that exercises (military - UNIAN) were conducted on the territory of the Russian Federation, an offensive component of the Russian airborne troops was prepared, they are ready for an airborne operation to a depth of 500 km. The concentration of strategic aviation near our borders, the concentration of aviation even in Belarus, the corresponding actions in Transnistria, the 14th army is located there, it is being put on alert, etc., ”the admiral said.

        “On the territory of Ukraine itself, a special in-depth operation of the Russian special services continues, the purpose of which is to undermine society. These are technological things, specially trained people act and manage there, who incite the population, relying on radical organizations and groups. From a military point of view, such plans exist and can ever be realized. In particular, under the slogans of supposedly protecting the Russian-speaking population, which in fact does not require this. A technological basis is being created for this. That is, the situation is critical and requires adequate action on our part, ”the former deputy chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces summed up.
        there is a constant escalation of the situation.
        1. locman60
          locman60 23 March 2014 16: 43
          +6
          What did you want? you will receive in full !!!
        2. TRex
          TRex 23 March 2014 17: 31
          +28
          Do you not notice how many "admirals" there are in Ukraine, given the presence of a small-scoped fleet that does not even reach a full-fledged division of ships? Where did the combined-arms commanders go?
          ENTER THE CIRCUS ARENA!
          1. Vadim12
            Vadim12 23 March 2014 18: 29
            +5
            At headquarters they grow and multiply, and if they put the company in command, they will not cope.
            1. avg
              avg 23 March 2014 19: 15
              +2
              Quote: Vadim12
              At headquarters they grow and multiply, and if they put the company in command, they will not cope.

              It is best to command a cropped apiary - there are a lot of honey, there are no bees. Nothing prevents the admiral from growing up.
          2. Penzyac
            Penzyac 23 March 2014 19: 00
            +6
            You can offer a new title for the Ukrainian Navy - Admiral of the last boat. laughing
        3. muhomor
          muhomor 23 March 2014 17: 40
          +6
          The former strategist himself sss .. and lures others. It's good! Let them go to the diapers. When the East finally twitches, the banderlogs will have more powerful panic.
        4. Penzyac
          Penzyac 23 March 2014 18: 55
          +6
          It’s strange, but Ukrainian intelligence officers flew over Russian territory on their plane and didn’t register any troops outside their permanent locations ...
          This storyteller is the ex-first deputy chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, for complete persuasiveness he only had to shout - "the Russians are coming", to throw himself out the window from some high floor.
          1. GRANATE-19
            GRANATE-19 23 March 2014 19: 31
            +10
            Quote: PENZYAC
            It’s strange, but Ukrainian intelligence officers flew over Russian territory on their plane and didn’t register any troops outside their permanent locations ...
            This storyteller is the ex-first deputy chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, for complete persuasiveness he only had to shout - "the Russians are coming", to throw himself out the window from some high floor.

            A joke on the topic: "Bar in the" Wild West. "A wounded man runs in and shouts:" Get out, White Joe is coming "and falls unconscious, they bandaged him, carried him to the top, drink and have fun. Another wounded man comes in and says:" Get off. , White Joe walks "and falls unconscious, they take out a bullet, he is generally in a bad state, they carry him to the top, drink and have fun. A third wounded man crawls in and whispers:" Get out, White Joe is coming, "and dies. Everyone is in disbelief. , but they drink and have fun further. Half an hour later a man in white with two Colts comes into the saloon and shouts: “This is a robbery all the money and jewelry in a sack!” They give him everything, he runs away and shouts: “Now get out, White Joe is coming !!! "And in Ukraine, the same thing is happening, everyone is scared by evil RUSSIA that they say that" White Joe "(Putin) will take everything, but in fact: they pulled out their chairs (and illegally) to cut and plunder what was left of poor Ukraine! Respectfully, I express my humble opinion.
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        5. Native grandfather
          Native grandfather 23 March 2014 19: 01
          +2
          Quote: platitsyn70
          there is a constant escalation of the situation.

          Guys, but on the one hand, although he is lying, he can be thanked. Kabanenko simply does not yet realize that he is only inspired by resistance in the South Vostok and all those who are waiting for help from Russia with this disinformation. And all the riffraff, such as pravosek shit under themselves with fear. After all, censored Ukraine does not receive information. And then such power is going to hit the junta! )))))
          Kabanenko, keep it up! Let's still kill your Russians, you see the gopot itself will all run away. ))))
        6. Kot bazilio
          Kot bazilio 23 March 2014 23: 49
          +2
          Do not read or watch official Ukrainian news without a toothbrush and mouth rinse! wassat The land admiral will be able to answer one simple question:
          1. Is a beer bottle an offensive or defensive weapon?

          I answer as a former sergeant of the USSR - if it is with beer - it is a defensive weapon, and if with a beer - gas - offensive.

          1. Su-24 can. He can both support the troops in the offensive, and work to concentrate troops preparing for the offensive. As well as strategic aviation. (For Pan Admiral and others like them, I would like to draw your attention to the fact that relocating "strategists" is a very expensive pleasure, it is cheaper to fly an extra three hours than to drag the entire airfield to the border).
          2. Systems of volley fire and artillery - similarly to paragraph 1.
          3. Paratroopers - similarly to paragraph 1.
          Only insidious sappers mine the tank-dangerous directions of a possible adversary's offensive and make passes for their troops. But Herr Admiral somehow did not appear about them.
          5. Who announced the mobilization - Russia?
          ... And on Inter - again in Donetsk some pro-Russian renegades in the number of many thousands are holding rallies - not otherwise, all of them are part of "Russian special services for deep operations." Each has a parachute, a leather cloak and two daggers. Terrible things are happening in Ukraine ...
          So who is pumping what?
          This valiant admiral must be reminded of the fate of a similar land admiral - Horthy.
      2. dustycat
        dustycat 23 March 2014 16: 25
        +8
        The State Department of the SGA found a channel for financing the Kiev usurpers from the funds of its taxpayers - Japan promised a loan for the alleged "reconstruction of water treatment facilities."

        http://kiev.unian.ua/898834-yaponiya-vidilit-kievu-kredit-u-10-milyardiv-dolariv
        .html

        That's just on 10 billion yefimok even in the suburbs you can build ten of these new ones.
        And the usurpers asked only 7,5 billion efimoks for "reconstruction".

        But who are they talking about ?! SGA citizens?
      3. Very old
        Very old 23 March 2014 16: 47
        +8
        Yes, the noodles they have already piled up

        Andrei, today it remains to scream loudly and loudly: FAT, FAT, FAT!
        Maybe it will be more satisfying?
        When you still wait for the European aid ...
      4. Sibiriya
        Sibiriya 23 March 2014 16: 57
        +9
        Not even storytellers but worse:
        thieves
        liars
        traitors
        not remembering kinship
    3. Gloria45
      Gloria45 23 March 2014 16: 39
      +9
      Odessa ssuper! Spasibo
    4. ele1285
      ele1285 23 March 2014 16: 40
      +14
      who against
      More than two and a half thousand people went to Freedom Square in Kharkov for a rally in support of the federalization of Ukraine, Status Quo reports. According to the publication, people are waving the flags of Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Kharkov, as well as the Russian fleet.

      On the monument to Lenin, located on the square, banners appeared: "Kharkov requires a referendum", "Yanukovych - a legitimate president." Activists who went out on the street urge local authorities to listen to their opinion. Citizens demand a referendum, the preservation of the Russian language, and also oppose rapprochement with NATO and the European Union.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 23 March 2014 16: 43
        +11
        Quote: ele1285
        “Yanukovych is a legitimate president.”

        Politically more competent and safer.
    5. mnbv199
      mnbv199 23 March 2014 16: 51
      +22
      MOSCOW, 23 Mar - RIA Novosti. Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to the EU Vladimir Chizhov jokingly advised US Senator John McCain to "follow Alaska" during the Sunday program "The Andrew Marr Show" on BBC One.
      During the interview, the main topic of which was the situation in Ukraine and the annexation of Crimea to Russia, the TV show host Andrew Marr mentioned Senator McCain's words that "Moldova will become the next (country)" to become part of the Russian Federation. "Watch out for Moldova!" - the presenter quoted the senator. In response to Marr's remark, Chizhov replied: "Tell McCain to keep an eye on Alaska" and added that "Alaska was part of Russia."

      Marr noted that this was a very "frightening thought," after which Chizhov clarified that it was a joke.

      http://m.ria.ru/world/20140323/1000705701.html
      1. Russ69
        Russ69 23 March 2014 16: 57
        +15
        Quote: mnbv199
        Marr noted that this was a very "frightening thought," after which Chizhov clarified that it was a joke.

        There is some truth in every joke ....
        1. Kirzhak
          Kirzhak 23 March 2014 18: 00
          +7
          Anecdote in the topic:
          Alina Kabaeva complains to her friend about Putin:
          - Volodya is not so understanding! I asked for cream on March 8th, and he gave Crimea. Now I'm afraid of stuttering about an Alaskan jacket!
      2. bda
        bda 23 March 2014 17: 58
        +3
        Gentlemen, right there in the neighboring material there is a reference to a petition to the White House on the return of Alaska back to Russia. Who prevents us from signing everything:
        https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/alaska-back-russia/SFG1ppfN

        There is more data (http://topwar.ru/42128-ssha-ne-nravitsya-peticiya-za-vossoedinenie-alyaski-i-ro
        ssii.html), that now, in violation of its own rules, this petition can be accessed only by reference.
        1. Native grandfather
          Native grandfather 23 March 2014 19: 08
          +1
          Quote: bda
          Who prevents us from signing everything:

          I signed up yesterday! hi
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      4. I do not care
        I do not care 23 March 2014 20: 00
        +5
        Quote: mnbv199
        Tell McCain to keep an eye on Alaska. "
      5. KCC
        KCC 23 March 2014 22: 59
        0
        Quote: mnbv199
        MOSCOW, 23 Mar - RIA Novosti. Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to the EU Vladimir Chizhov jokingly advised US Senator John McCain to "follow Alaska" during the Sunday program "The Andrew Marr Show" on BBC One.
        During the interview, the main topic of which was the situation in Ukraine and the annexation of Crimea to Russia, the TV show host Andrew Marr mentioned Senator McCain's words that "Moldova will become the next (country)" to become part of the Russian Federation. "Watch out for Moldova!" - the presenter quoted the senator. In response to Marr's remark, Chizhov replied: "Tell McCain to keep an eye on Alaska" and added that "Alaska was part of Russia."

        Marr noted that this was a very "frightening thought," after which Chizhov clarified that it was a joke.

        http://m.ria.ru/world/20140323/1000705701.html



        He said that this was a joke, but did not laugh.
      6. KCC
        KCC 23 March 2014 22: 59
        0
        Quote: mnbv199
        MOSCOW, 23 Mar - RIA Novosti. Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to the EU Vladimir Chizhov jokingly advised US Senator John McCain to "follow Alaska" during the Sunday program "The Andrew Marr Show" on BBC One.
        During the interview, the main topic of which was the situation in Ukraine and the annexation of Crimea to Russia, the TV show host Andrew Marr mentioned Senator McCain's words that "Moldova will become the next (country)" to become part of the Russian Federation. "Watch out for Moldova!" - the presenter quoted the senator. In response to Marr's remark, Chizhov replied: "Tell McCain to keep an eye on Alaska" and added that "Alaska was part of Russia."

        Marr noted that this was a very "frightening thought," after which Chizhov clarified that it was a joke.

        http://m.ria.ru/world/20140323/1000705701.html



        He said that this was a joke, but did not laugh.
    6. 222222
      222222 23 March 2014 18: 06
      +17
      In Odessa, a huge rally After the rally, the march along Kanatnaya Street to the Consulate of Poland. The whole street is crammed. not less than 50 thousand ...

      .. march "People's Druzhina" under the slogan "Odessa for the referendum"

      March slogans
      -Juntu won
      - Odessa is bolder - drive the bandandera in the neck
      -Bandera -von from Odessa
      -Fascism will not pass
      -Yanukovych is our President ..
      -.Janec is coming.
      -One for all and all for one
      Odessa is a Russian city,
      -Odessa is a city hero,
      -Do not let Odessa pass,
      -Russia, Russia, Russia.
      Referendum referendum. referendum
      freedom to Anton Davidchenko
      -so you can’t live
      The flags are red, the Russian Federation, one of Israel, it seems like New Russia? (Yellow-red) and did not notice a single Ukraine.
      1. Black
        Black 23 March 2014 18: 29
        +8
        Quote: 222222
        freedom to Anton Davidchenko
        -so you can’t live


        All the same, it is felt that Russian is still eroded in Odessa .... Where are the slogans
        "Who's guilty?"
        "What to do?"
        Just kidding
        Well done Odessa !!! Resist Natsik!
      2. Kot bazilio
        Kot bazilio 24 March 2014 00: 12
        0
        "Yanukovych is our president" is super stupidity. To give such a trump card ... Damn, how wrong it is ... fool Let me explain - Yanyk and his family have "pulled up" small and medium-sized businesses to such an extent that any mention of him causes strong rejection from all parties.
        Everything else is correct.
        I also had to add, in the style of the New Ukrainian performance, "hto ne skochyt (who does not jump) - that mosk..l" - alternative phrases: "hto ne jerk..t - that mosk..l", "hto not smokche (does not suck ) - that mos..l ", etc.
    7. Civil
      Civil 23 March 2014 18: 16
      +3
      those who will teach them to love their homeland will come soon, the question is just which side!
  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 23 March 2014 16: 03
    +27
    "Arseny Petrovich was convincing, I will not hide. He spoke extremely seriously, in Russian, outlined the moments of the country's rupture and proposed methods of its unification. He promised the regions unheard of freedom, both financial and ideological. But even if he is not cunning, but sincerely believes in his program, how is this feasible in the foreseeable future? "

    Impossible, because Yatsyk is not power, but a clown and he does not solve anything.
    1. Arhj
      Arhj 23 March 2014 16: 16
      +30
      But he is ready to join the GXNUMX even tomorrow. Someone has to deliver drinks. The drinks will really be exclusively "without gas"
    2. de klermon
      de klermon 23 March 2014 16: 20
      +8
      The best way for THIS Ukrainian government to save the country is to hand over the Yarosh-Muzychkov company to some tribunal, but rather the second first will be handed over to the morgue! .. Yaytsenyuk, if he has not yet prepared the escape route, resembles a decoy duck! .. The view creates, but not for long!
      1. Kot bazilio
        Kot bazilio 24 March 2014 00: 19
        +1
        Ha! So they surrendered to the tribunal! "Don't tell my horseshoes!" Horse Julius.
        IMHO, it is much cheaper (and more correct) to return Ukraine to the borders before 1939 - Romania - Chernivtsi, by the way, the birthplace of Scientologist Yaytsenyuh, Galicia - Poland. And take a look at how democratic Europe will lead them to the standards of democracy (especially the Poles).
        "This will be good, this will be fun!"
    3. infinite silence ...
      infinite silence ... 23 March 2014 17: 00
      +9
      Mixer in my eye! If this t.r. does at least something for the East! I DO NOT BELIEVE!
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 23 March 2014 19: 10
        +4
        Quote: infinite silence ...
        Mixer in my eye! If this t.r. does at least something for the East! I DO NOT BELIEVE!


        You, directly, Stanislavsky laughing
      2. Native grandfather
        Native grandfather 23 March 2014 19: 12
        +5
        Quote: infinite silence ...
        Mixer in my eye! If this t.r. does at least something for the East! I DO NOT BELIEVE!

        And you’re doing it right. He has no money for this. And the first thing to do is to sow the seed. Otherwise, the second famine.
      3. GRANATE-19
        GRANATE-19 23 March 2014 19: 57
        +4
        Dear, take care of your precious eyes, you are our like-minded person - a mixer in his eye, but he is more powerful in glasses! And for the PEOPLE OF UKRAINE he will not do anything, but for his foreign currency account over the "hill" he will: dance, crawl, creep, lick overseas shoes and more.
        1. infinite silence ...
          infinite silence ... 24 March 2014 01: 03
          +2
          ... Dear ...)))))))
    4. bda
      bda 23 March 2014 18: 07
      +10

      Quote: Vladimirets
      Arseny Petrovich was convincing, I will not hide. He spoke very seriously, in Russian


      I also came across such clowns (though it was one type of religious figure with a Tatar surname, education - acting school, Moscow residence permit, a bunch of real estate in different countries and Wahhabi money in his pocket). So, he once spoke on his spiritual and materialistic topics, spoke, all in Tatar, and in Tatar (it was necessary for the Wahhabi curators to show their independence from the surrounding Russian-speakers). And as they began to ask uncomfortable questions to him, so he already switched to Russian in the second sentence: portraying an independent man is good, but when you also have to think at the same time, you have to speak Russian in will or not.
    5. ty60
      ty60 23 March 2014 19: 16
      +3
      Yes, he just has no lattice. Yatsenyuh, do not talk nonsense!
    6. ty60
      ty60 23 March 2014 19: 16
      0
      Yes, he just has no lattice. Yatsenyuh, do not talk nonsense!
  3. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 23 March 2014 16: 03
    +12
    23years of deceit and robbery of your own people!
  4. svetlomor
    svetlomor 23 March 2014 16: 07
    +33
    Only that remains.
    1. Salamander
      Salamander 23 March 2014 16: 15
      +14
      Um ... easy!
      1. hrych
        hrych 23 March 2014 16: 27
        +16
        Turchinov is also a terminator, though from a termination childhood he scares the average man

        1. Salamander
          Salamander 23 March 2014 16: 28
          +6
          And look like two drops of water! laughing
        2. Gecko
          Gecko 23 March 2014 17: 58
          +15
          Dr. Evil!
        3. bda
          bda 23 March 2014 18: 13
          +1
          Straight from the TV program "Prototypes"
  5. Chifka
    Chifka 23 March 2014 16: 07
    +17
    I asked a question in another thread, and did not answer: How will the surname "Yaytsenyukh" be translated into foreign languages? After all, marks the same in the G7? As far as I understand, in many languages ​​it will be translated literally? And how will he be presented, say, at the GXNUMX summits? Although ... in gayrope, probably with such a surname, many immediately recognize their own in him ...
    1. dustycat
      dustycat 23 March 2014 16: 32
      +5
      Translated according to the rules of French phonetic transcription.
      Yaycenyuk arsenill

      Or simplified American
      Yaicenuсk Arseniy
      1. vadpol
        vadpol 23 March 2014 17: 17
        +5
        and if literally "eating all the delights of the groin space" but in one word?
  6. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 23 March 2014 16: 09
    +5
    A bunch of lonely in the desert .... wassat
  7. delfinN
    delfinN 23 March 2014 16: 09
    +6
    Nothing, nothing, spring has come. Now they will see who is where we are ... al. Especially in the stomach begins to growl.
  8. tnship2
    tnship2 23 March 2014 16: 10
    +5
    Yaroslav Hasek. Just not funny. He wrote about the Czechs, but in many ways echoes.
  9. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 23 March 2014 16: 14
    +1
    It was all preparation for joining the EU ... Full darkness is yet to come ... And then, I think 3 years in the EU will be enough, you won’t have to write on the back of the newsletter, how good it is back to Russia ... stop
    1. SibRUS
      SibRUS 23 March 2014 17: 46
      +10
      It was all preparation for joining the EU ... Full darkness is yet to come ... And then, I think 3 years in the EU will be enough, you won’t have to write on the back of the newsletter, how good it is back to Russia ...

      The EU itself, not long left.
  10. stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 23 March 2014 16: 14
    +14
    You can talk about zombie, about propaganda, about completely rewritten history ... Today it is no longer important. Maidan has firmly entered the minds of the inhabitants of NizalEzhnoy. To the shouts of "We ourselves!" more than 50% of Ukrainians are engaged in self-complacency (like "Everything is under control"), and with persistence worthy of another application, they do not want to realize the collapse of the STATE.
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 23 March 2014 16: 33
      +6
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      do not want to realize the collapse of the STATE.

      ... collapse is realized only when there is nothing to eat ... and nothing.
      In the meantime, the style is revolutionized ...
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 23 March 2014 16: 41
        +7
        Quote: Rus2012
        In the meantime, the style is revolutionized ...

        I would say "I'm sorry for the children ...".
    2. Penzyac
      Penzyac 23 March 2014 19: 18
      +1
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      You can talk about zombie, about propaganda, about completely rewritten history ... Today it is no longer important. Maidan has firmly entered the minds of the inhabitants of NizalEzhnoy. To the shouts of "We ourselves!" more than 50% of Ukrainians are engaged in self-complacency (like "Everything is under control"), and with persistence worthy of another application, they do not want to realize the collapse of the STATE.


      Mice cried, squeaked, but continued to eat a cactus ... laughing
    3. Kot bazilio
      Kot bazilio 24 March 2014 00: 29
      +1
      States ???? For 23 years of living on this territory, the signs of the State (real, with a capital letter) have not been observed, alas. Mb, looked bad, I will not argue. I saw the territory, in some places managed, in some places covered by the roof, with signs of the state (the system "give money", a kind of "viysko"). Indeed, we are constantly engaged in complacency - "and this will pass ..." wink And passes ..
  11. fimusito
    fimusito 23 March 2014 16: 17
    +17
    All Ukrainian camarilla are clowns. Though now in the circus.
  12. svp67
    svp67 23 March 2014 16: 19
    +4
    Who of their Right Sector activists will surrender a firearm voluntarily?

    Here who would doubt ...
    Dnepropetrovsk News http://www.056.ua/news/499592
    The action of voluntary surrender of masks and bits in Dnepropetrovsk failed.
    Only four people came to the city police department.
    According to our correspondent, these were activists of the "Right Sector" who only handed over their masks.
    According to the deputy head of the "Right Sector" for political issues German Nazarenko, from that day on, all activists open their faces and today during the day they will hand over all masks to the police. But weapons, the same sticks, shovel cuttings, etc. until they take it. They are left exclusively for self-defense.
    This is confirmed by the members of the "Right Sector" themselves.
    "We leave the weapon only for self-defense. But the masks were handed over because such an order was received from Yarosh. Why did they hide their faces before? For example, I did not feel safe, because the same" aunts "could attack," says the activist. " Right sector "Nikita, who has been in the organization for two months. When asked why he joined PS, he replied that he does not care what is happening in the country and does not want a repetition of the Crimean scenario in Dnepropetrovsk.
    1. Orc-xnumx
      Orc-xnumx 23 March 2014 16: 52
      +11
      Yes ... It affects the total brainwashing shit! I watched yesterday a rally at a Kiev school. This is tin! Goebbels in its purest form.
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      2. zennon
        zennon 23 March 2014 22: 00
        0
        It seems this is not Kiev. Some other city.
        1. serge
          serge 24 March 2014 06: 47
          0
          Hitler Youth, one and one.
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      4. Maverick78
        Maverick78 24 March 2014 05: 01
        0
        This is not Kiev. This is Zap Ukrainian.
  13. Naum
    Naum 23 March 2014 16: 20
    +5
    Everything once in Ukraine (together with it) will end and everything will be fine. Or garno? Or garazd?))). And what's the difference. Foam will subside, the turbidity will settle!
    1. Orc-xnumx
      Orc-xnumx 23 March 2014 16: 54
      +3
      I would not want to see the cemetery peace!
    2. locman60
      locman60 23 March 2014 17: 05
      +4
      I would like to!!! we don’t want any war ... we are Slovenians !!!! ... amers to the filthy can’t understand ... their country, this is the zbrod of criminals who have got away from Europe ... they destroyed the indigenous population, and those who stayed drunk
    3. vadpol
      vadpol 23 March 2014 17: 13
      +1
      or GOOD? Unless, of course, in the G8 they don’t go to their home.
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 23 March 2014 19: 36
        +2
        Quote: vadpol
        or GOOD? Unless, of course, in the G8 they don’t go to their home.


        In a mask with a bat and a Molotov cocktail? And, Obama or Cameron for a tie ... "Who does not dance that th m-rock!"
        Like, teach mov, we have come to you. And then - life or a wallet?
        1. Egoza
          23 March 2014 21: 35
          +2
          Quote: PENZYAC
          And then - life or a wallet?

          Not properly! "Hand over money for the needs of the Maidan and the revolution!"
          1. Kot bazilio
            Kot bazilio 24 March 2014 00: 34
            0
            Not a full quote! wink hi "Hand over the money .... and it will be like a positive step on your part!" And also "Now your business belongs to the revolution and to the people of Ukraine! This is not racketeering!"
  14. konvalval
    konvalval 23 March 2014 16: 23
    +1
    Quote: Chifka
    I asked a question in another thread, and did not answer: How will the surname "Yaytsenyukh" be translated into foreign languages? After all, marks the same in the G7? As far as I understand, in many languages ​​it will be translated literally? And how will he be presented, say, at the GXNUMX summits? Although ... in gayrope, probably with such a surname, many immediately recognize their own in him ...

    Coca Cola.
  15. delfinN
    delfinN 23 March 2014 16: 29
    +16
    Yes, Ukraine generally fed the entire Union. We know.
    1. Platov
      Platov 23 March 2014 17: 06
      +6
      And now who is stopping them from feeding themselves, or there are simply not enough brains.
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 23 March 2014 19: 40
        +3
        Quote: PLATOV
        And now who is stopping them from feeding themselves, or there are simply not enough brains.


        And since then they only draw figs, there is no time to work ...
        On this and obsessed. As Hare Krishnas, compare:
        - Hare Krsna;
        - Glory to the heroes.
        Mantras ... Mantras ...
    2. APASUS
      APASUS 23 March 2014 18: 23
      +4
      Quote: delfinN
      Yes, Ukraine generally fed the entire Union. We know.

      I especially liked about chemical enterprises. We also had a chemical plant in Western Ukraine. It was slowly sawn into a stainless steel. And here the investor drew on when they entered the workshop, and there were only walls and a pipe - that's all.
      The investor quickly did goodbye!
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 23 March 2014 19: 48
        +2
        In Ukraine, the pipe is our everything!
        Why work when there is a pipe?
    3. bda
      bda 23 March 2014 19: 20
      +9
      Start:
      In still shaggy 1975 or 1976 he studied in the primary classes of secondary school in the then absolutely Russian-speaking city of Zaporozhye (schools, by the way, are elite (with in-depth study of the English language), and not, especially, Ukrainian, where children and their parents were driven almost by force, for no one wanted to be educated in Ukrainian (although the question arises as to who should have implanted such Ukrainian schools even then, under Soviet rule). So: every week, as usual then, there is a lesson in patriotic education. Our teacher (absolutely Russian woman) every week, even then, she was brainwashing us - junior schoolchildren about the fact that "Ukraine is such a rich land that if it were a separate state, it would be in terms of population, territory, economy, etc., etc. comparable to France. "The kids sat, listened and ... dreamed of how Shepetovka would turn into Versailles with the wave of a magic wand called" a separate state. "
      Knowing the tough Soviet education system, I personally am far from the idea that all these stories are exclusively a figment of the sick imagination of the teacher. The question (as well as about Ukrainian schools): who needed it even then and, as they say, "where did the authorities look?"
      1. bda
        bda 23 March 2014 19: 23
        +6
        The middle (otherwise the moderator says a long comment):
        And you also need to remember how, with a well-known corn grower, now revered by some of our intillichents (so as not to use an obscene word) as "the father of the thaw", in the same Russian-speaking Zaporozhye, suddenly all universities by a willful decision were transferred to ... the Ukrainian language (i.e., for example, two professors, Mendelssohn and Ivanov, are sitting at the Zaporozhye Industrial Institute, and they translate for students Khachaturian, Aliyev, etc. the manual on foundry production into Ukrainian language, coming up with Ukrainianized versions of technical terminology on the go ). Well at least the "thaw", where it, damn it, did not last long - the universities returned back to study in Russian, but ... "BUT" - another brick in the wall of division of peoples was laid.

        The last time I was in my native Zaporozhye was twenty years ago. I went to the bookstore. Out of curiosity, I took a textbook on the history of Ukraine. On the very first spread of the cover, the title picture "Kiev is collapsing (ie, destroying)" - in the 20th century, during the next Russian-Polish war, the army of the Moscow tsar stormed Kiev, then occupied by the Poles. It was a "turn", on which in the Soviet history textbooks there was usually something like "Victory Banner over the Reichstag" - that is. any greatest historical event in the history of the country. That was 90 years ago! The main thing has already become "Kiev is collapsing". And so: while we ourselves do not understand what we were doing in the XNUMXs, a generation has already grown up in Ukraine, firmly convinced that "" are those who, usually, after drinking a bucket of vodka, go to destroy Kiev.
        And about the "Victory Banner" so there were even more discoveries. About the history of the Great Patriotic War, the following was said: "During World War II, Russian and German troops fought among themselves on the territory of Ukraine. As a result, many Ukrainian cities, villages, factories and factories were destroyed, and more than 6 million Ukrainians were killed." Like this: a whole generation has grown up on this, too.
        And at this time, not everything for our children in Russia, but some "advanced" teachers (I am completely silent about television and the Internet) have already explained clearly that "there was not much difference between the totalitarian socialist USSR and the totalitarian National Socialist Germany, if not it was also between two tyrants - Stalin and Hitler. " And we, too, not really, "got excited" about this - some individuals, who did not become raw materials for lampshades, still allow themselves to walk on our land and loudly assert that for them Soviet soldiers and German fascist invaders are - twin brothers.
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        2. bda
          bda 23 March 2014 19: 25
          +13
          Comment completion:
          So, regarding the current situation in Ukraine, we can say: everything has been going for more than one decade. And the fact that this happened is not only the stupidity of our brotherly people (as, unfortunately, some of our compatriots are almost openly scoffing at), but, in fact, this is our common misfortune, in which we are to blame together, for we, in fact, we are one people (I don’t take the Western-Uniates - for me they are not Ukrainians, just like us “Zaporozhians” at that time they also openly called “Muscovites” if they were sure that this time physics will not be grabbed). And to understand this, it is necessary not only to "work" in the Ukrainian ideological direction (which we did not do when we gave this clearing to the Western henchmen), but also to define ourselves: if we are united with Ukraine by the similarity of language, common faith, common historical roots , the proximity of cultures, then in Russia, these concepts should become not just words, but those values ​​for which it is not scary to go into battle, and not shameful. It is good, of course, to "agitate for Russia" by the size of pensions, but if we do not want everything to come down to banal consumption (as in the above agitation leaflet for "independence"), then material arguments must be supported by things much more deep, and therefore reliable - not subject to the world conjuncture of energy prices, etc.

          With respect to those present,
          Dmitry.
          1. delfinN
            delfinN 23 March 2014 19: 59
            +1
            Thank you, Dmitry. Good comment. I even managed to put you 2 pluses.
        3. ty60
          ty60 23 March 2014 20: 49
          +1
          Who forgets his past is condemned to relive it again.
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  16. nogBogHuk
    nogBogHuk 23 March 2014 16: 39
    +17
    Why are Ukrainian media silent about what is happening in the West of the country ??????

    The story I read
    I want to tell you a story that shocked my whole family. I have a buddy. His name is Vitaliy. He is a former police officer. He is 64 years old. Early this morning, he called me on his cell phone and, sobbing, told the following.

    He has a friend living in Lviv - also a former police officer. He lives with his son and mother. So this friend called Vitaly last night. Cried. And he said that in Donetsk we would not believe a single word of the Nazis who came to power. He said that in Lviv - real fascists walk around. With weapon.

    The other day, they cut off alive the head of a former police officer, Lieutenant Colonel Petrenko. And they bustled this head for several hours along the tram line in the center of Lviv. He said that in Lviv - they really kill and slaughter Russians. Mostly former police and military.

    Russians leave Lviv en masse. Mostly in Transcarpathia. Since they are afraid to go east through Kiev. He told Vitaly that these very fascists came to his house and were interested in why his son did not join the national guard. They threatened with physical violence. He immediately sent his son to Poland. And yesterday afternoon, the nationalists came to him again. Beat him up. Tortured. They wanted to know where the son is. Gone - but promised to return.

    He said that they would probably kill him. He cannot leave Lviv, as he has his mother in his arms. And she is 90 years old.

    And so he called Vitaly today - at half past one in the night. He said that in his apartment they knock doors out ...

    Say - goodbye friend! And the connection was interrupted.

    Vitaly did not sleep all night. I tried to reach my friend. But the phone was disconnected.

    Vitaly called me, and sobbing everything - he told it. We began to think what could be done and then Vitaly called again. He said that his friend from Lviv got in touch. And that he is located in 350 kilometers from Lviv.



    He told me that when the Nazis dragged him from the apartment to the street, and there were 5 people, someone called them. And the Nazis began to discuss the information received by telephone. Distracted. Fortunately, in his pockets - there were car keys. Which - stood nearby. He said that he didn’t even remember how he ended up in the car. Such was the tension. I came to my senses - when I was already behind Lviv. It was lucky that the nationalists seemed to be without a car.
    Eventually. A man rides without documents. Fortunately, there is some money for gasoline. Goes to Transcarpathia, 90 summer mother remained at home.
    1. vadpol
      vadpol 23 March 2014 17: 06
      +3
      ours, too, unfortunately are silent, but for good reason, no one will expose their correspondents to such a risk. Yesterday they called Shakhtyorsk, so they say that the Russian military and equipment are around! I asked if they could take off my photo? the answer is, acquaintances told us, we believe them. and Shakhtyorsk is the southeast! that’s how brains messed up with people. that the Ukrainians. the military were flying around the border territory and found nothing they did not convince, they say, Moscow’s provocation! They don’t believe their own! FULL
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 23 March 2014 18: 05
        +5
        Quote: vadpol
        the answer is, friends told us, we believe them

        ... and those acquaintances told their acquaintances, and those - acquaintances once again ...
        The language of Kiev is brought laughing
        1. vadpol
          vadpol 23 March 2014 18: 20
          +4
          so I’m telling them, give me the facts! I’ll bring them to Kiev, I have a mother-in-law there and I don’t even believe my daughter that there is no war in Crimea!
    2. Native grandfather
      Native grandfather 23 March 2014 19: 27
      +3
      When all this settles down (either by tanks, or something else), it is thought that we will see pictures that are better than Khatyn.
    3. Penzyac
      Penzyac 23 March 2014 20: 07
      +3
      Yes, in comparison with today's Ukraine, our "dashing 90s" are "calm, smooth, but God's grace."
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 23 March 2014 20: 43
        +1
        Quote: PENZYAC
        Yes, in comparison with today's Ukraine, our "dashing 90s" are "calm, smooth, but God's grace."

        Makashov is resting against the background of the Three-Headed Judas.
  17. dmitriygorshkov
    dmitriygorshkov 23 March 2014 16: 41
    +4
    Thanks to the author! I liked the correctly formulated postulate "After the collapse of the USSR, we had neither the past nor the future"
    Our GENERAL Great Past we will remind you, and we will help to build the future, most importantly you show that you are the heirs of this Great past!
  18. homosum20
    homosum20 23 March 2014 16: 41
    +12
    I have been living for a long time (53 years). Already tired. Not "I live" itself - but the reproductive capacity of idiocy.
    I am a businessman (no matter what position). This means I sell. There is a methodology, a system, experience, but the main thing is understanding: I work for the result. (There are many components here, from: "sell at any price" to "once you cheat - who will believe you (the Bible) - I'm not an idiot).
    It was tempting to read articles where businessmen (not always professional. Unprofessional guided only by my first principle) are analyzed in terms of logic, patriotism, consistency, politics ...
    Yes there is nothing. This is an empty article. And eggs, and Klitschko and others like them - they are merchants. They sell their homeland (for some reason, it did not upset anyone when the labeled one received the order of St. Andrew the First-Called for the same)
    . This is a commercial deal, and it’s up to their professionalism (I don’t know how professional they are, judging by their biographies - they are amateurs, but these are problems of Ukrainians) what will happen to their country, USA, and the geyser union.
    Believe me, analysts just earn their 2 kopecks. This business is nothing personal.
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 23 March 2014 21: 23
      +3
      Quote: homosum20

      ... This is a business - nothing personal.


      Nothing personal, just business - this is the most vile principle of liberalism meaning that nothing can be sacred in business. Not to violate the agreements is just a forced restriction caused by the fear of losing partners and, accordingly, business.
      Any person should have indisputable taboos, otherwise he is simply a complete egoist. Unworthy of being a member of society.
      Everyone should have something that never, under no circumstances can trade: - Homeland; - mother; - father; - children; brothers and sisters; - in general, people. Otherwise, it is no longer a business, but a banal betrayal, simply out of selfish interest. By the way, to do business with such scum is to become their accomplice, for a normal person it should be, as they say in certain circles, "zapadlo".
      Such "2 kopecks" are called "30 pieces of silver".
  19. individual
    individual 23 March 2014 16: 43
    +9
    In Russia, the 91st were also expected by Chubais' Volgas for vouchers, like manna from heaven. Not all of them happened, but the one who handed over the "voucher" and bought, who: a bicycle, who a box of alcohol were equal to those who fully believed in the "First Voucher and the rest of the investment funds."
    The strength margin of Russia allowed the people not to slide into the abyss of hopelessness, and the Ukrainians came to where they were sent.
    You have to pay for everything, but the people again become extreme, and attempts at discontent turn into a farce and the authorities are again the most reactionary Nazi leaders.
    Ukraine 2014 - Germany 1933.
    Do we really need external forces, as in May 1945 in Germany, for the people of Ukraine to understand it is necessary to solve their own problems!
    1. zennon
      zennon 23 March 2014 22: 33
      +5
      Ukraine 2014 - Germany 1933.

      Do not confuse! Hitler came to power absolutely legally as a result of the elections. And he put things in order. With him, unemployment came to naught in a few years. Industrial production sharply increased, and crime decreased significantly. He drove Germany off the beautiful roads. I’m not his lawyer but that’s how he started! The war was then ... But Khokhlomaidan immediately went to war bypassing the phase of creation.
      1. serge
        serge 24 March 2014 07: 10
        0
        National Socialists did not win the election in 1933. They scored 43%, and it was necessary 50%. But Hindenburg from the English filing appointed Hitler the head of state. But he could not appoint him. Industrial production and road construction in Germany was raised with English money. Like the army. Crime decreased because criminals took power. Germany was financed solely in order to move it to the USSR. Nobody finances Maydanschiks, since it is already clear that the money will go to the sand. You can’t move them to Russia. But to create chaos and money is not necessary. By the way, this is the second attempt, after Georgia.
  20. Ivan 63
    Ivan 63 23 March 2014 16: 45
    +10
    Well, well, now I'm not talking about Ukraine separately, but I will say about the peoples of the entire former Soviet Union, with the exception of those from whom natural Russophobia can never be eradicated. They will finish off everyone, primarily Russia, and if this succeeds, then Dulles' plan will be executed. Of course, Russia has more opportunities for active resistance, but if this policy of "non-resistance to evil" continues, there is, first of all, the fifth column in Russia itself, it is very, very difficult. So, that has a vital need to "shoot EBN ash in the direction of the West" - with all that it implies. Dangerously? I think there is a risk, but people will support, I'm sure. And the effect of this symbol should be supported by all sound forces on the territory of historical Russia.
  21. Fanat1984
    Fanat1984 23 March 2014 16: 46
    +4
    If the right sector really blows up the gas pipe, then Ukraine will really have to join Ukraine in order to protect it! Only, this time from the Eurogays !!!
  22. NDR-791
    NDR-791 23 March 2014 16: 53
    +3
    Finally, the selfless ones began to speak the truth about themselves. The split in the new government is already blooming violently. This I am not talking about a weakly rebellious East, but about the very bird-three of the Maidan revolution. Everyone pulls money. They just released the Banderlog genie from the bottle, but they don’t know how to hide it back. All Ukrainian politics now reminds me of the tale of Frankenstein - and will ruin the creation of the creator. It seems to me even before the election of May twenty.
  23. delfinN
    delfinN 23 March 2014 16: 54
    +22
    Comrade L. Kravchuk! I have long wanted to ask you: where are my 69 (23x3) cars?
    What kind of cars, but you got bored on cookies, the Indians even had beads on their necks.
  24. Keeper
    Keeper 23 March 2014 16: 57
    +7
    The whole sadness of the situation is that Yatsenyuk is now tearing his veins to knock out loans for the country by any means and on any terms! But for some reason he does not even guess - as soon as at least one loan falls into the Ukrainian breakthrough - he, Yatsenyuk - will be thrown out into the street at best! At worst - just bang !!!
    And then they will say to creditors: - You gave money to Yatsenyuk ?! So ask him ...
    Bullshit, but it will become a fact !!!
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 23 March 2014 21: 47
      +1
      Quote: Keeper

      ...
      And then they will say to creditors: - You gave money to Yatsenyuk ?! So ask him ...
      Bullshit, but it will become a fact !!!


      Why nonsense? We will try to do just that. They threw us ...
      As it does, it will respond.
    2. zennon
      zennon 23 March 2014 22: 39
      0
      The whole sadness of the situation is that Yatsenyuk ...

      I suggest writing the family name correctly-Yaytsenyuk! laughing
    3. zennon
      zennon 23 March 2014 22: 39
      0
      The whole sadness of the situation is that Yatsenyuk ...

      I suggest writing the family name correctly-Yaytsenyuk! laughing
  25. Turkir
    Turkir 23 March 2014 16: 58
    +13
    Yes, and with us, the menagerie is full.
    I watched Khakamada on Solovyov's show. When Solovyov asked what democracy is, Khakamada replies in his lazy manner, “Well, I don’t know, democracy is different.”
    Oh how. The daughter, either a Japanese socialist or a communist, claiming the title of the economic and political oracle in Russia, not leaving our television screens, does not know the answer to a simple question: Democratic rule ensures equality before the law for all its citizens. Dot. Though you are Serdyukov, even though you are Hakamada. And how many of these are Hakamad in Russia? Well-fed, contented, teaching us how to live. The question is, why do we need them and why are OUR (whether?) Media so interested in their opinions? An opinion of these political corpses galvanized from across the ocean?
    1. ty60
      ty60 23 March 2014 19: 50
      0
      Review of the name-hakam ... A. The essence is clear.
    2. ty60
      ty60 23 March 2014 19: 50
      0
      Review of the name-hakam ... A. The essence is clear.
    3. Penzyac
      Penzyac 23 March 2014 22: 14
      +2
      Quote: Turkir

      ...
      I watched Khakamada on Solovyov's show. When Solovyov asked what democracy is, Khakamada replies in his lazy manner, “Well, I don’t know, democracy is different.”
      ...


      Classically, in short, democracy is power in the interests of the majority, taking into account the views of the minority.
      In this sense, modern Western "democracy" is, in fact, a special form of minority dictatorship, which differs from the classical dictatorship only in the way of coercing the majority. Instead of simple and brutal police coercion, Western "democracy" uses various methods of manipulating public opinion in such a way that the majority has the impression that it makes the necessary decision itself, but those who have not been convinced are forced in the old fashioned way, by police pressure, or simply deprived of words and ignored (and that's good).
      Here is such a "democracy".
  26. Russ69
    Russ69 23 March 2014 16: 59
    +14
    I am dancing .... laughing
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 23 March 2014 17: 06
      +5
      Quote: Russ69
      I am dancing ..

      The air of "freedom of the Maidan" has a specific smell and has a very strange effect on shell-shocked heads ... laughing
    2. vadpol
      vadpol 23 March 2014 17: 23
      +9
      I also love Lucas and his films. but Danelia made a film about his planet.
    3. kocclissi
      kocclissi 23 March 2014 17: 33
      +5
      Send it ...... to space, the first flight without a scaf, well, please!
    4. Stanislas
      Stanislas 23 March 2014 19: 08
      +3
      Space Guardsman, damn it!
    5. ty60
      ty60 23 March 2014 19: 52
      +2
      A pioneer on Mars. One. Self-righteous and self-sufficient.
    6. ty60
      ty60 23 March 2014 19: 52
      0
      A pioneer on Mars. One. Self-righteous and self-sufficient.
    7. Penzyac
      Penzyac 23 March 2014 22: 22
      0
      I propose to give Klitschko a free one-way ticket to Mars, let him create a "space guard of Ukraine" there. laughing
  27. delfinN
    delfinN 23 March 2014 17: 02
    +21
    For a long time I was not on vacation at sea. There is no sea in my Siberia. Now I’ll dream:
    1. vadpol
      vadpol 23 March 2014 17: 23
      +5
      wassat similarly! ё
  28. DimDimych
    DimDimych 23 March 2014 17: 04
    +13
    After the collapse of the USSR, we had neither the past nor the future, only the promise that
    how wonderful it will be tomorrow. So 23 years.

    but they boasted of their Independence,
    yes in the direction of Russia spit ...
    raised a generation of "Ivanov - those who do not remember the kinship"
    Well, now - For that fought for it and ran.
  29. Slavkovich
    Slavkovich 23 March 2014 17: 07
    0
    Well, twenty-three years is a long time. Scooped to the right - to the left, here they are scooped to the bottom. What's next? Further, the logic of events suggests: unite with the stronger. So no need to worry - unification is just around the corner
  30. Semenov
    Semenov 23 March 2014 17: 13
    +4
    With Ukraine-this is a long time. Until everyone understands for himself where it is better - in the EU or with Russia, in the Crimea or in Kiev. It’s a pity for the robbed, humiliated, stupid people, but we are just like that! I hope that together we will build a worthy powerful state!
  31. TekhnarMAF
    TekhnarMAF 23 March 2014 17: 15
    +1
    It is only a pity that the shagreen skin that has covered all of Ukraine, shrinking, crushes ordinary citizens, and not those who make wishes.
    And do not wish for "cheese in a mousetrap" - work tuna! The southeast plowed, and the rest dreamed! So we got a "dream on a moonlit night" You need to think with your head, and not eat into it! Rough? Maybe yes! Well, any treatment is bitter or painful. Set aside the fat and wiggle it!
  32. Egoza
    23 March 2014 17: 18
    +13
    The leader of the national militia of Donbass Chumachenko was detained
    The Security Service of Ukraine detained the leader of the Donbass militia, Mikhail Chumachenko, in Donetsk. He is suspected of preparing actions aimed at overthrow of the constitutional order ...
    ...or seizure of state power, as well as an encroachment on the territorial integrity and inviolability of Ukraine.

    "The Security Service of Ukraine in accordance with the court decision in Donetsk detained the leader the so-called "people's militia of Donbass" Mikhail Chumachenko and presented him with official suspicion of preparation for committing crimes under Art. 109 (actions aimed at forcibly changing or overthrowing the constitutional order or seizing state power) and Art. 110 (encroachment on the territorial integrity and inviolability of Ukraine) of the Criminal Code of Ukraine, "the SBU press center reported on Saturday.

    According to the press center, materials were seized from the detainee, indicating intentions during a mass event in Donetsk on Saturday "to call the participants to illegal actions, in particular to the violent seizure of the regional state administration building."

    It was also established that Chumachenko planned to proclaim himself the people's governor
    XXXX
    This is where the Constitution is immediately remembered, and the seizure of power turns out to be "no way"
    1. Native grandfather
      Native grandfather 23 March 2014 19: 34
      +3
      Another leader missed.
    2. revnagan
      revnagan 24 March 2014 13: 19
      0
      Quote: Egoza
      The leader of the national militia of Donbass Chumachenko was detained

      Why are you talking!? Here the Russian comrades say that no one in Ukraine wants to resist Bandera, but only hopes for help from the outside ... Because lazy people and traitors ...
  33. HMR333
    HMR333 23 March 2014 17: 29
    +3
    RALLY IN ODESSA !!!
    http://o1.ua/live/obscheodesskiy-miting-ni-shagu.html
    LIVE STREAM
    1. vadpol
      vadpol 23 March 2014 17: 44
      +1
      there for Yanukovych and the referendum. But did he lead the country to the situation that is happening now?
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 23 March 2014 18: 08
        +7
        Quote: vadpol
        there for Yanukovych and the referendum

        Yanukovych - legitimate president, no acting Politically competent and true, since there is no call for separatism with all the consequences.
        Shares of civil disobedience are also a tool.
        1. vadpol
          vadpol 23 March 2014 18: 23
          +1
          his flight caused a huge negative to his person, both in Russia and in Ukraine. and although in fact he is de jure president, de facto 0%
          1. Penzyac
            Penzyac 23 March 2014 22: 42
            +2
            Quote: vadpol
            his flight caused a huge negative to his person, both in Russia and in Ukraine. and although in fact he is de jure president, de facto 0%


            So now he has nowhere to go, he no longer has any obligations to the oligarchs who surrendered him, but if the people allow him to return, at least before the end of the term, he will have to fulfill the will of the people, at least out of a sense of self-preservation and from resentment towards the traitors, to Russia will also help, incl. financially.
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 23 March 2014 23: 40
              +1
              Quote: PENZYAC
              In addition, Russia will help, including financially.

              Yeah ...
              Otherwise, he’ll lose his home in Barvikha ... laughing
      2. Stanislas
        Stanislas 23 March 2014 19: 14
        +2
        Quote: vadpol
        But did he lead the country to the situation that is happening now?
        And who does not give the opportunity to legitimately change this president? Armed fascists. And why, one asks? They want to build a fair Ukrainian order? Ordnung und Disziplin for Southeast Ukraine will bring Sashko Bily with the lads?
  34. vadpol
    vadpol 23 March 2014 17: 31
    +2
    everyone is stealing! fitter-bolt, driver-gasoline, nurse-pill, etc. Just how can you resist when you have billions of these tablets, gasoline, bolts in front of you? But in fact we are all thieves (well, almost all), just with chichichipi there was a distribution system of goods (stolen) and the chairman of the district committee did not have the right to live better than the chairman of the regional committee, etc. .A democracy implies equality! Those. who sleeps ... he eats!
    1. kocclissi
      kocclissi 23 March 2014 17: 38
      +2
      Not so: stole the hero composition, stole a piece of bread-thief! These are purely Western values ​​.....
      1. Ulysses
        Ulysses 23 March 2014 17: 42
        +11
        Then the eggs in the European Union are torn.
        Soul mates.
        And for the army they became aroused at once, otherwise it was completely boarded up.
        1. vadpol
          vadpol 23 March 2014 18: 27
          +4
          on this and rents an apartment in the suburbs, maydanuty can remember him and fayna kraina, well done, but risky guy.
          1. 320423
            320423 24 March 2014 00: 16
            0
            on YouTube you saw 3 more videos, pi..l steam laughing
  35. infinite silence ...
    infinite silence ... 23 March 2014 17: 36
    +8
    Just read the information. I give it in full.
    The other day, they cut off alive the head of a former police officer, Lieutenant Colonel Petrenko and footballed this head for several hours on a tram line in the center of Lviv ...

    That's what they write to Alexander Dugin ... What is in Ukraine is not the Ukrainian spring, but the Ukrainian plague. They write in private messages about the details of this "Ukrainian plague":

    "I want to tell you a story that shocked my whole family ... My husband has a friend, his name is Vitaly, a former police officer ... he is 64 years old .. Early this morning he called my husband on his mobile phone ... an adult man sobbed so that even I heard ... He has a friend in Lviv, also a former police officer, lives with his son and mother ... So this friend called Vitaly last night, cried and said that no matter what we believed in Donetsk a single word from the Nazis who came to power ...

    said that real fascists were walking around Lviv with weapons ... the other day, they cut off alive the head of a former police officer, lieutenant colonel Petrenko, and bombed this head for several hours on a tram line in the center of Lviv ... He said that they were really killing and cutting in Lviv Russian. former policemen and military ... Russians from Lviv leave in large numbers ... mainly to Transcarpathia, because they are afraid to go east through Kiev ... He told Vitaly that these same fascists came to his house and wondered why his son did not join the national guard, threatening physical punishment ... he immediately sent his son to Poland ... Yesterday afternoon they again came, beat him, tortured him, wanted to know where his son was ... They left, but promised to return ... He said that he would be killed, he could not leave, because he his mother’s hands, she’s 90 years old ... And so he called Vitaly today, at half past one in the night, said that they were knocking out the doors ... and said: “Goodbye, friend!” Vitaliy did not sleep all night, tried to get through to him, but the phone was disconnected ... He called my husband and sobbed and told all this ... We started thinking what could be done and then Vitaly called again ... said that his friend was in touch and that he was 350 kilometers from Lviv. When he was dragged from the apartment to the street, there were 5 of them, someone called them ... they started to discuss something together ... as if they were distracted ... Fortunately, he did not rummage in his pockets ... he had the keys to a car that was not far ... He says that he doesn’t even remember how he ended up in the car, it was such a tension ... he began to recover when he was behind Lvov, happiness that they were most likely without a car ... The result ... a man is traveling without documents, since there are some then money for gas ... goes to Transcarpathia, 90 year old mother remained at home ...

    This is what is happening in Lviv, the venal media will not show it and will not tell about it ... This is probably the Donbass! Repression is in full swing with us! Gauleiter Taruta, newly appointed by the 4th Reich of the junta as the governor of Donetsk region, acts like a real fascist ... touch ... Banned rallies, calls us Russian tourists who go out for money ... Donbass and especially Donetsk are getting harder every day ... Taruta the oligarch is a real criminal! Damn him! "


    http://day.zp.ua/news/38129.html

    Shoot. Destroy this scum!
    1. raven75
      raven75 23 March 2014 17: 48
      +4
      Quote: infinite silence ...
      said that real fascists were walking around Lviv with weapons ... the other day they cut off alive the head of a former police officer, Lieutenant Colonel Petrenko, and bombarded this head

      Well, if this is so, then in the Donbass these devils will have strong miners' hands, pulling the Banderlog to the "feeding trough".
      1. NDR-791
        NDR-791 23 March 2014 18: 29
        +2
        This and ours do not show, I think because the correspondents are also people and want to live. Therefore, only stringers go beyond Kiev, but they have little faith.
      2. infinite silence ...
        infinite silence ... 24 March 2014 10: 48
        0


        The long-suffering of the miners came to an end ...
    2. vadpol
      vadpol 23 March 2014 17: 55
      +2
      and become like them? until they bring their brown plague to the west, they are safe because for the West, fascism-Russia! and fuck them convince! the West will not allocate money to further aggravate the situation in (in) Ukraine and, as a result, Russia will be blamed for everything and Russia will have to disentangle the mess that Europe and its owners have brewed!
      1. infinite silence ...
        infinite silence ... 23 March 2014 18: 33
        +6
        One way or another, they will carry out actions, provocations to denigrate Russia in the eyes of the inhabitants of Ukraine and the world community.
        reliable operational data, in the period from March 30 to April 4 of this year. in Kiev and in the east of the country, the US special services (DIA and CIA), in cooperation with the UK ICU, are preparing armed provocations. They will be attended by servicemen of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, disguised as civilians, as well as in uniform, agents of foreign special services and radicals of the SS. The goal is to destabilize the situation and introduce peacekeeping contingents (in fact, NATO's rapid reaction forces) to Ukraine. This agreement was reached on March 19-20 this year. with the security forces of Ukraine and the "political" leadership of the country.
  36. AlexA
    AlexA 23 March 2014 17: 41
    +3
    Quote: Turkir
    And how many of these are Hakamad in Russia? Well-fed, contented, teaching us how to live. The question is, why do we need them and why are OUR (whether?) Media so interested in their opinions?

    Good question. And we in Russia will have to answer it. Sooner or later.
    Unfortunately, there are still a lot of people in Russia who are kindly hiding from answering this question for themselves.
  37. _my opinion
    _my opinion 23 March 2014 17: 43
    +2
    maybe I will speak a little out of topic ... I drew attention to the thought of one of the Ukrainians, who said that Currently, the Ukrainian media constantly support negative emotions in people. And when people are dominated by these emotions, their ability to analytically / critically perceive information drops sharply... that is how people are manipulated. After that, I began to look more closely at what emotions this or that author is trying to evoke.
  38. Lelek
    Lelek 23 March 2014 17: 45
    +3
    What we have - we do not store, having lost - weep. This saying is so since 1000, but relevant. Yatsenyuki, Tymoshenko and another gop company will eventually lose everything, but there will be no one to cry about them. crying
  39. sigizmund472
    sigizmund472 23 March 2014 17: 46
    +6
    Arseny Petrovich was convincing, I will not hide. He spoke very seriously, in Russian, outlined the moments of the rupture of the country and proposed methods for combining it. He promised the regions unprecedented freedom, both financial and ideological.

    He promised unheard-of freedom, but this is at the beginning, and at the end of his speech he was very formidable - he said that "the earth will burn underfoot" and threatened that all those who oppose the legitimate (legitimate ???) power of Ukraine do not care will be found and punished, at least in a year, at least in two. And no Russia will save them.
    A classic example is to start for health, and finish for peace.
    And further...
    I have a friend on the Internet who lives in Vinnitsa (I don’t call my name and surname for well-known reasons). Often we talked to him, the benefit and interests coincided, and the profession was the same. Then he disappeared for a while. He appeared yesterday and I asked him how he lives. He answered shortly:
    "Do not think that we are good. We are VERY (highlighting the word" Very "of my Vinnitsa friend) bad." Then he passed out again.
  40. Arkan
    Arkan 23 March 2014 17: 47
    +3
    A sad analogy.
  41. Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx 23 March 2014 17: 50
    +1
    Talk about shagreen skin. As they say: the dog barks, the wind wears. In Poland, there is talk about the denunciation of the Molotov-Ribentrop Pact, that is, the return of Galicia to Poland, these are three regions, Romania and Hungary also have certain views on this issue. The question is, what will remain of Ukraine if the issue is resolved positively?
    1. Jackyun
      Jackyun 23 March 2014 18: 51
      0
      Actually, based on the theory of precedent, Poland can safely denounce the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, especially since a hundred such a state as Germany of the 1939 model has not existed since 1945. This step will undoubtedly complicate the life of the Ukrainian Natsiks, but will make life easier for ordinary people (see my post below.)
      1. Horn
        Horn 24 March 2014 06: 25
        0
        Was Poland a signatory to this pact? No? Then she has the same right to "denounce" this pact as Papua New Guinea!
    2. Jackyun
      Jackyun 23 March 2014 18: 51
      0
      Actually, based on the theory of precedent, Poland can safely denounce the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, especially since a hundred such a state as Germany of the 1939 model has not existed since 1945. This step will undoubtedly complicate the life of the Ukrainian Natsiks, but will make life easier for ordinary people (see my post below.)
      1. ty60
        ty60 23 March 2014 20: 41
        +1
        but if Russia agrees to denunciation de jure Lviv, Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk-territory of Poland. It makes sense to go this way. All right in the West will become a priori wrong. This will not be our headache. All who are eastern- squeeze into their historical homeland. Poles will be grateful. Katyn will write off. As an option to solve the problem.
        1. Penzyac
          Penzyac 23 March 2014 23: 15
          0
          Quote: ty60
          but if Russia agrees to denunciation de jure Lviv, Ternopol, Ivano-Frankivsk-territory

          Poland. It makes sense to go this way. All right in the West will become a priori wrong. This will not be our headache. Anyone who is east will squeeze out to their historical homeland. Poles will be grateful. Katyn will write off. As an option to solve the problem.


          And Gdansk (Danzig) is de jure territory of Germany, it is unlikely that the Poles will take this with gratitude ...
      2. ty60
        ty60 23 March 2014 20: 41
        +1
        but if Russia agrees to denunciation de jure Lviv, Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk-territory of Poland. It makes sense to go this way. All right in the West will become a priori wrong. This will not be our headache. All who are eastern- squeeze into their historical homeland. Poles will be grateful. Katyn will write off. As an option to solve the problem.
        1. Penzyac
          Penzyac 23 March 2014 23: 29
          0
          This "Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact" was given to you, it is better to denounce the "Brest Peace" and return Poland, the Baltic states and Finland to the Russian Empire, at the same time denounce the agreement on the sale of Alaska ...
          Cool? laughing
          Marasmus.
    3. Penzyac
      Penzyac 23 March 2014 23: 08
      +1
      Quote: Bob0859

      ...
      In Poland, there is talk of the denunciation of the Molotov-Ribentrop Pact, that is, the return of Galicia to Poland, these are three areas ...


      The Poles should be reminded that they were not the subject, but the object of a secret addition to the said treaty and cannot denounce it in any way. In addition, at the time of the signing of the agreement, the Baltic coast, together with Gdansk (Danzig) and a number of western lands belonged to Germany and they will have to be given away, and they will get a lot from Belarus, and Lithuania will not give up Vilnius without war. So, in the interests of Poland about the denunciation of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, it is better to keep quiet and keep your fingers crossed.
    4. wax
      wax 24 March 2014 01: 57
      +1
      It is impossible to denounce covenants and contracts of others. And if the Poles want to touch the post-war borders in the east, then automatically there will be the possibility of revising the borders in the west. The EU needs urgently ye ... from Ukraine, otherwise the EU will soon fall apart.
  42. Siberian19
    Siberian19 23 March 2014 17: 57
    +6
    Kiev weekdays!
    1. boozer
      boozer 23 March 2014 21: 16
      +2
      Tin, but the boys are 16-18 years old. What is their future? Fascist fellows ...
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 23 March 2014 23: 18
        0
        Quote: boozer
        Tin, but the boys are 16-18 years old. What is their future? Fascist fellows ...


        Stole, drank (expanded) - to prison ...
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 23 March 2014 23: 43
          +1
          Quote: PENZYAC
          Stole, drank (expanded) -

          ... on the Maidan - there they will hide, warm, give a tip ...
    2. Dezinto
      Dezinto 24 March 2014 00: 25
      +2
      Digradants are frostbitten, anger is not enough, what are they stupid and aggressive, well, of course, stoned. They don’t really shy in politics in politics, they just walk, scream, the Maidan is a verse, and drug is still rubbed into their heads!
  43. DimDimych
    DimDimych 23 March 2014 18: 16
    +1
    Quote: Bob0859
    In Poland, there is talk of the denunciation of the Molotov-Ribentrop Pact, that is, the return of Galicia to Poland, these are three regions, Romania and Hungary also have certain views on this issue. The question is what will remain of Ukraine ...

    walk-field within approximate borders until 1654.
  44. nov_tech.vrn
    nov_tech.vrn 23 March 2014 18: 23
    +7
    Yatsenyuk runs into the Oval Office of the White House: - Mr. President,
    Mr President!!! I just called the Kremlin how do you tell me
    ordered ... I tell them: Give Crimea, oaths! Otherwise you feel bad
    will be !!! .. And Putin answered: "Fuck you, big-eared! .. And you will call again -
    you will pay rent for 60 years !!! "... Call him, tell him not to
    called names ...
    Obama listened gloomily and exploded: - GO IN THE ASS, EAR !!! !!! .. I already yesterday
    called ... you know how much they put me for Alaska
  45. Jackyun
    Jackyun 23 March 2014 18: 37
    +6
    Gentlemen! I will probably express a seditious thought, but I ask you not to judge me harshly, and even more so, not to be offended by people who consider themselves patriots of Ukraine, but, nevertheless, do not accept the current "government" of Ukraine.
    Such a state entity as Ukraine has never existed in the history of human civilization. All statements, like, but then or then, it is better to forget right away, because the simple question: How long has it been ?, reduces all attempts to NO. Longer than the current one, a little less than a quarter of a century, the Ukrainian state, in its every next attempt, did not exist. The reason for this is extremely simple. The territories of the right, downstream, bank of the Dnieper, and, generally, at a distance of a hundred kilometers or more from it, historically gravitate towards the Catholic Church and the Polish and Lithuanian lands. The Levonian Order and the Roman Empire in all its guises. Southern and Eastern lands, i.e. the left-bank part, inhabited by the Russians, in their roots based on another branch of the Slavs, for the Poles are also Slavs, as are the Balts and even East Germans. This is the source of an ineradicable antagonism, which cannot be resolved otherwise than by the unification of kindred peoples. Precisely nationalities, because such a concept as "Ukrainians" in the context of history simply does not exist. Equally, one should not confuse the Russian people, read Russians on a national basis, and the Russians, as a community of many nationalities united by a common idea (which is being born right now, before our eyes) and common, or close interests.
    And according to this, this is my purely personal opinion, there will be a war. This is terrible, but it will be. For starters, the east is chilled. And this is the main mistake of the current Kiev authorities.
    1. bda
      bda 23 March 2014 20: 43
      +3
      They hope that they will also make Bandera supporters of the Russians living in the southeast. And they are doing this work. And how they do it - everything else will no longer matter - no matter how their economy collapses, etc. - in their hearts, everyone will know that all the same, "the damned" mocked "are to blame for everything and they will hate us, because people usually do not try to accept another option (to hate themselves).
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 23 March 2014 23: 52
        0
        Quote: bda
        They hope that they will also make Bandera supporters of the Russians living in the southeast. And they are doing this work. And how they do it - everything else will no longer matter - no matter how their economy collapses, etc. - in their hearts, everyone will know that all the same, "the damned" mocked "are to blame for everything and they will hate us, because people usually do not try to accept another option (to hate themselves).


        Hopefully - it doesn’t mean they can do it.
    2. hawkeye
      hawkeye 23 March 2014 21: 46
      0
      http://narochnitskaia.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=150&sid=686bc5d36c21b0fecdb3b
      37e4d1ac546#p5796

      In confirmation of your words.
  46. DS14
    DS14 23 March 2014 18: 38
    +12
    Have you jumped?

  47. s.melioxin
    s.melioxin 23 March 2014 18: 45
    +2
    It is a pity for ordinary people, and there are most of them in Ukraine, in the west, especially in the east of the country, they hoped for the best, but it turned out "as always." The real darkness, the struggle for survival, the future is generally in the dark. one, and she's yours.
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 23 March 2014 23: 56
      0
      Quote: s.melioxin
      It is a pity for ordinary people, and there are most of them in Ukraine, in the west, especially in the east of the country, they hoped for the best, but it turned out "as always." The real darkness, the struggle for survival, the future is generally in the dark. one, and she's yours.


      A rolling stone gathers no moss.
  48. Kovlad
    Kovlad 23 March 2014 18: 46
    +3
    I categorically do not respect people capable of overthrowing a monument. Think about the meaning of the word "MONUMENT", it is a memory of good or bad. but it was, and the desire to rewrite history "the Russian occupiers occupied Ukraine in such and such a year ..." and so on will not lead to good. I cannot imagine what Leonid Bykov, the creator of the film "Only Old Men Go to Battle," would say, and what he said about Ukraine in this film.
  49. SS68SS
    SS68SS 23 March 2014 19: 04
    +3
    ... "Arseniy Petrovich heard the answer and upon his return to his homeland made a convincing appeal to the Ukrainians. His speech was based on the principles of the catechism, when the lecturer himself asks a question and answers it himself. That is, the listener does not, according to the speaker, have others answers to the questions that he himself asks. "...


    Apart from themselves, they do not ask anyone and do not hear anyone ... even their own people .... a dead end branch of development ....
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 24 March 2014 00: 00
      0
      Quote: SS68SS


      Apart from themselves, they do not ask anyone and do not hear anyone ... even their own people .... a dead end branch of development ....


      This is not a branch of development. and the diagnosis is autism.
  50. ussrex
    ussrex 23 March 2014 19: 04
    +5
    Kiev weekdays!