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And not a friend, and not an enemy, but a strategic partner with their own interests.

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And not a friend, and not an enemy, but a strategic partner with their own interests.



Peking's support for Moscow’s actions in Ukraine should not overwhelm us

In defense of its interests, Russia is not at all as alone as other media are trying to impress on us.

The foreign policy position that we have taken has been supported by China more than once - a player whose political weight in the international arena the West cannot underestimate. And allied relations of Beijing and Moscow (here it would be necessary to spit three times over the left shoulder), whatever one may say, seriously confuse all the cards to adherents of unipolarity.

In the case of the Crimea, however, one of them could hope that in this case China’s position might not be so solidary with Russia. Yet, unlike the situation in the Middle East, in this case, Russia is resolving a rather personal issue.

In addition, theoretically, Beijing could in fact try to use the situation to start a new territorial dispute. But what if? This is just a dream for strategists somewhere in the State Department.

But - only a dream. For some reason, Beijing is in no hurry to use such a great trump card, but it unequivocally expresses support for Russia - in particular, through an editorial of the Xinhua news agency, the significance of which, by virtue of understandable parallels, is comparable to the editorial in the Pravda newspaper of the USSR. That is, it is precisely the position of the government, and not just the “dear editorial board” who decided to speak out about the sore.

And, remarkably, in some places the official material (which is beyond any doubt) set out in the material, Beijing’s position is an exact summary of Vladimir Putin’s speech before parliamentarians and public figures last Tuesday in the Kremlin.

In particular, the direct reproach in applying the policy of double standards is noteworthy. “From Kosovo to South Ossetia, as well as from the Comoros to the Crimea, Western countries apply double standards in international affairs, based only on their own interests,” writes the collective author. “The same fact — for example, the declaration of independence — the West always evaluates differently: sometimes it calls it“ national self-determination, ”if the development of events meets its interests, and if not, it condemns such steps as“ separatist activities. ” Such actions of individual Western countries resemble a “split personality”, and it is difficult for them to earn the trust of the international community. ”

And this is no longer just support for the Russian position in Ukraine, but absolute solidarity with Moscow in a principled view of the policies created by Washington and Brussels, where “the concepts of decency” are put above the letter of international law, and if the latter goes against them, then for them (rights ) worse. And the authors of the article just as a result call for the Western world to be different: “From Iraq to Afghanistan, and also from Libya to Ukraine, Western countries all the time promoted justice and human rights, but they brought only distress and suffering, as well as unrest and anxiety. Why then is democracy and morality, exalted to the heavens by Western states and exported to other countries, often create chaos and turn brothers into enemies? ”

The asked question answer, apparently, will not find. He is rhetorical and rests, it is necessary to think, in that hoping in this world, which is divided primarily in Western liberal discourse into friends and foes, at some universal notion of decency is fraught with great disappointment.

In an interview with a KM.RU columnist, political analyst, chairman of the supervisory board of the Institute for Demography, Migration and Regional Development, Yuri Krupnov, urged not to be too enchanted by China’s support:

- I will not be original: Russia has only two allies - the army and the navy. Therefore, it is not necessary to say that China in this case, as in others, is our ally, but above all that Beijing is building the right strategic partnership, in which he pursues his own interests. After all, according to the Chinese themselves, their state is the middle one, located in the very center of the world; the rest of the states, including Russia, are considered by them, if not as barbarous, then definitely as alien.

In this sense, we should not so exaggerate the importance of support from Beijing. In addition, China has enormous interests in moving towards the European Union and creating bridgeheads, which can already be clearly seen from the techno-industrial zones under construction near Minsk, as well as the willingness to invest in the same Crimea and to consider several other options. In this regard, China, of course, needs a stable Eastern European part of the former USSR, where it can deploy bridgeheads for maximum penetration into the economy of the European Union, that's all.

Actually, the positions of China on Ukraine and, oddly enough, Japan were consolidated during the meeting at the opening of the Olympic Games in Sochi and, in fact, were already fully involved in the events for the annexation of the Crimea.

One simple thing must be understood: the conflicts of the world community with Russia are in fact of no interest to Northeast Asia. All the speeches in support of the position of Russia on their part are diplomacy, supported by strategic interests. Indeed, as it is easy to guess, in a situation, alas, the imminent severe economic crisis of Northeast Asia will be of interest to any sales markets.
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  1. Tumbleweed
    Tumbleweed 22 March 2014 18: 23
    +20
    We can only stick together with China, one by one they will "devour". China is also in a difficult situation, they have separatist regions, but there is also a "nice" like the Crimea - Taiwan ...
    There soon the head of China will meet with Merkel, we'll see ... however, the "eastern cunning" has become legendary winked
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    2. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 22 March 2014 18: 37
      +12
      This situation with sanctions is beneficial to China .. And especially the talk about giving up the dollar from gas and oil. So a friend is not a friend but thanks for the support! Russia will not remain in debt.!
      1. W1950
        W1950 22 March 2014 18: 51
        +9
        Friends in politics can not be by definition. Either slurp or mutually beneficial partners.
    3. komel
      komel 22 March 2014 19: 39
      +7
      The position of China is very interested. Michelle Obama has now visited China, a trip is scheduled for the US President. Our politicians are not visible. China is currently our strategic partner with whom we cooperate at the military level. I would like to hear the position of China, for the continuation of military contracts. A joint exercise with China would be appropriate.
      1. Rupor
        Rupor 22 March 2014 21: 17
        +2
        Fuss is not necessary, this is not our method :)
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    5. pravoved
      pravoved 22 March 2014 20: 15
      +4
      Russia needs a reliable ally at this stage of historical development. The interests of China and Russia coincide, containing NATO and the United States. Thinking it is necessary to have a military-political alliance with China, involving other countries in this alliance as opposed to the West, which for a quarter century has humiliated and spread rot Russia with the connivance of Gorbach, Alkash and Co.
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    7. timer
      timer 22 March 2014 23: 48
      0
      As the author correctly confirmed, Russia has only 2 allies, the army and the navy. The rest are only partners. I have written before in various comments that with China it is necessary to keep an "ear"! So that Russia does not become a toy in someone's global interests, it should have clear global goals and interests! I think the strategic goal is to become the "heart" of the spiritual Orthodox Slavic civilization, suppressing the "dead" Western one. The tactical goal is to get closer to the Muslim civilization, because in Russia, Muslims are the second largest. and in order to achieve strategic success in the world, Russia needs a post-industrial economy, the foundation of which will be socialist capitalism!
  2. Rus2012
    Rus2012 22 March 2014 18: 28
    +11
    One simple thing must be understood: the conflicts of the world community with Russia are in fact of no interest to Northeast Asia. All the speeches in support of the position of Russia on their part are diplomacy, supported by strategic interests. Indeed, as it is easy to guess, in a situation, alas, the imminent severe economic crisis of Northeast Asia will be of interest to any sales markets.


    ... not the right design! Able to completely breed all the people on the principle of jackals!

    The following is clear -
    The US strategy is now "controlled chaos". They will surely "rip off the thread" the next time chaos is turned on ...
    Our - "stability and justice".

    Therefore, our full answer (maximum program) is
    We, G20 (EuroAsEC, SCO, BRICS ...), should have our own sandbox. America will not have any place.
    If before the dollar was provided with production facilities, gold and weapons, now all the cards are beaten.
    Gold dissolved in an unknown direction (China, the Russian Federation ...), production capacities sailed to the Pacific region and Latin America, energy from Russia, Iran, Turkmenistan, Venezuela, labor in China and India.
    And the “Dead Hand” (Perimeter-RC and Russia's nuclear triad), even without the participation of India and China, gives the peoples of the earth hope for a peaceful life (stability and justice).
    Those. the whole world of non-Western civilizations plus those who joined (let's say Germany with satellites) - we are dropping a dollar and building a new world, a new land ...

    Here is the new plan of the "White Tsar" Power!
  3. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov 22 March 2014 18: 30
    +3
    The Chinese are on their minds: while they support us, albeit carefully, the main thing is their interests. With such a policy, sooner or later they will begin to order everyone
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 22 March 2014 22: 37
      +1
      The Chinese are not the West, they have a different perception of the passage of time, if the West is always not patient and lives here and now, then the Chinese live, as they believe, for millennia and are not inclined to force events, therefore they will never start ordering everyone, they prefer to spread their influence slowly , quietly. At the same time, they never considered the possibility of a significant expansion of the territory of China itself, preferring to expand mainly economic influence, and for political influence they expect to use their 5th column in numerous "Chinatowns" around the world, realizing not the possibility of conquering and holding territories with a non-Chinese population comparable with the territory of China itself by purely military and police methods (they have enough of Tibet, Xin-Jiang and Inner Mongolia). Their worldview: there is China, the center of the world, and there is the rest of the world, which will never become China. In the Chinese mentality, there is no missionism, in contrast to the mentality of the Russian, Western European, Islamic and even Jewish, by the way, in this as their (Chinese) strength and, at the same time, their weakness.
  4. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 22 March 2014 18: 31
    +4
    And not a friend, and not an enemy ...

    Vladimir Vysotsky in such a situation advised: - "Take the guy to the mountains with you, take a chance ..."
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 22 March 2014 18: 34
      +6
      Quote: ia-ai00
      "Take the guy to the mountains with you, take a chance ..."

      With these guys we already fought together in the same trenches and more than once -
      Korean war in xnumxxx
      Against the Japanese.
      Until then, many more times ...

      There were also "misunderstandings and disagreements" (Damansky, Semipalatinsk, Vietnam ...)
      1. SkiF_RnD
        SkiF_RnD 22 March 2014 19: 23
        +4
        So was the CER. They fought against them. They are not friends to us. I mean, historically. There are the same reasons to fight, as well as reasons to be friends. Everyone chooses.
        1. pravoved
          pravoved 22 March 2014 20: 21
          +8
          At least the Chinese did not fight in a coalition with Germany against the USSR, unlike many Slavic "brothers" who are now ready to gnaw the throat of Russia!
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        3. Penzyac
          Penzyac 22 March 2014 22: 44
          +3
          Quote: SkiF_RnD
          So was the CER. They fought against them. They are not friends to us. I mean, historically. There are the same reasons to fight, as well as reasons to be friends. Everyone chooses.


          Therefore, the Chinese must always show the benefits of cooperation and the futility of rivalry; they are pragmatists even more than the west.
    2. Humpty
      Humpty 22 March 2014 18: 50
      +3
      Quote: ia-ai00
      And not a friend, and not an enemy ...

      Vladimir Vysotsky in such a situation advised: - "Take the guy to the mountains with you, take a chance ..."


      Lads in the skeleton of the drags, take a chance
      Kirpychin in ruzzak zaphni
      Yak shob peer her yak bull
      That's what you choose.

      NATO with the stubbornness of a donkey pushes for an alliance between Russia and China.
      1. ia-ai00
        ia-ai00 22 March 2014 20: 38
        +3
        "Neighing" with my husband! +100!
  5. skifd
    skifd 22 March 2014 18: 32
    +4
    I do not know . By and large, what does Kososvo have to do with it, and the rest of the insurgents. There are no partners in the strategy. There are only opponents. Who does not understand, that is DEAD. We didn’t hide. God grant. Patterned, but I REQUEST, RUSSIA, NECESSARY !!!
    1. Luga
      Luga 22 March 2014 19: 28
      +4
      Quote: skifd
      There are no partners in the strategy. There are only opponents. Who does not understand, that is DEAD.

      In general, I agree. I would only like to make a small clarification. Our political leadership is now using the concept of "partner" so as not to say "enemy". You used this word, apparently in a meaning close to the concepts of "ally", "friend". There are definitely no friends in politics and strategy. There are temporary partners and dependent subjects, otherwise it would be impossible to create coalitions. But they are all, of course, potential opponents.
      In relation to China, he is a temporary partner, until he grows stronger enough to openly declare his claims to world domination. But there is still time before that - as long as they need us and this must be used. And remember that the most faithful ally is the one whose head your pistol is attached to.
    2. Penzyac
      Penzyac 22 March 2014 23: 03
      +2
      Quote: skifd
      I do not know . By and large, what does Kososvo have to do with it, and the rest of the insurgents. There are no partners in the strategy. There are only opponents. Who does not understand, that is DEAD. We didn’t hide. God grant. Patterned, but I REQUEST, RUSSIA, NECESSARY !!!


      You give a Western understanding of strategy, this is its fundamental difference from Russian strategy in which there are not only opponents, but also partners, and even friends. By the way, in the Chinese strategy, in my opinion, there are opponents and partners, but no friends.
  6. konvalval
    konvalval 22 March 2014 18: 34
    +3
    And so it is necessary to build relationships not to kiss passionately, but on parity terms.
  7. redka
    redka 22 March 2014 18: 37
    +3
    "If a Chinese man gets up, then the whole world will be p ... c". My long-deceased grandmother spoke.
  8. Grenz
    Grenz 22 March 2014 18: 38
    +2
    There is Chinese wisdom - it is better to be a monkey sitting on a tree and watching tigers fighting below. Then get down and pick up the skin of the slain.
    Since the time of Confucius, nothing has changed. The Chinese are tough pragmatists and it is very difficult to calculate their deep strategy in the world. And we must take this into account. In eternal friendship (as before) there is no need to reassure, but in tactical decisions, of course, to use the "love" of the Chinese for America.
    For the rest, we must understand that China’s power is a threat to our borders.
    1. Angry reader
      Angry reader 22 March 2014 18: 42
      0
      I'd like to believe that we will get accustomed "... Only Russian interests"
  9. erased
    erased 22 March 2014 18: 41
    +1
    It is true that Russia has no friends, only temporary partners, constant enemies and volatile opinions of neighbors near and far. So to be ready to repulse any aggressor is the essence of existence. In addition to the development of the country and the growth of the welfare of the people.
    Clarification. Here, people are understood as the people themselves, and not the state government structure (it is also theft and deception) and everything that relates to it.
  10. Neighbor from below
    Neighbor from below 22 March 2014 18: 52
    +2
    In the 21st century, the Chinese are different, not the same as under the “Mao”. Now they are the “capitalists”, and are more than positive. We need to continue to cooperate with them.
  11. Leshka
    Leshka 22 March 2014 19: 00
    +3
    well, we don’t have to deal with them
  12. Bosk
    Bosk 22 March 2014 19: 06
    +2
    China is our ally, it covers us from the south, and we cover it from the north. By the way, regarding the fact that many say that China does not love us, China "wants" us - China treats us as partners, and who it does not love and who "wants" so it seems to me Japan ... so it seems like he covers us southeast.
  13. 020205
    020205 22 March 2014 19: 11
    0
    Article minus. China will support us in any case until it feels the absence of a threat from the United States. In my opinion, Beijing is well aware that if Russia falls, China will be next hi So for now, peace, friendship, chewing gum drinksAs they say the Union of the Red Star
    1. nizrum
      nizrum 22 March 2014 19: 38
      +4
      He will support him until the opportunity arises to wring out the Far East ... The Kitaez are not reliable allies, they need to be kept sharp in their ear.
  14. Stalevar
    Stalevar 22 March 2014 19: 13
    +1
    China is a big force! I'm not talking about its population, military power and territory. China is great for its wisdom, and this wisdom tells him that supporting a stable neighbor is much more profitable for him than dubious maneuvering between strange governments and their decisions, sometimes not tied together by decisions of the EU parliament and the US State Department. China is a pragmatist. This is their credo. They are so brought up !!! Brought up for centuries. I say this, that the choice of China has that rational kernel, which is not in today's Europe and especially in the USA for a long time or they want to forget, or deliberately neglected it since the Second World War! And this memory cannot but disturb the consciousness and even the subconscious! To throw Russia into the heat of war is to doom the world to complete destruction. China is wiser and it makes its choice. I think that the wisdom of the East has not dried up, but only multiplied !!!
  15. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery 22 March 2014 19: 23
    +4
    We are now a market for China, and almost without any restrictions. I judge this as the Far East. We are all tied to China. But we are not their main partners. Even Russia as a whole, is not able to swallow the whole jumble that China produces. Their main consumer is the USA.
    Not so long ago they fanned hysteria about China's expansion to the Far East and further to the whole of Russia. This is not true. China, not the first millennium, has been living in the same borders. A Chinese person may temporarily leave somewhere, earn money, but he will always return home. (I don’t presume to judge the American Chinese, but they also live according to the principle: "what you earned - go home"). And since they are interested in our resources, then it is necessary to develop relations in this direction. Let them come to us for this, but they will not leave us with deforested forests, empty bowels, depleted lands, but excellent roads, operating mines and mines, factories and plants. It is only necessary to organize all this correctly.
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 23 March 2014 00: 29
      0
      I completely agree with you. By the way, the Chinese are interested not only in our resources and sales market, but also in our technologies and transport routes, and the UN Security Council does not want to be alone against the West.
  16. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 22 March 2014 19: 32
    +4
    Judging by how actively the Chinese arm themselves, they understand that if it is stupid to sit on the shore and wait for the corpses of your enemies to float, you can "float" yourself.
  17. ty-min
    ty-min 22 March 2014 19: 46
    +2
    all right! "East is a delicate matter" everything must be thought out well ...
  18. combat66
    combat66 22 March 2014 20: 15
    +3
    The consequences of what Russia has decided to do is not even a single supercomputer will calculate. Here the tower was demolished from the whole world ..... China itself wants to be on the side of the winner, well, or at least not to fall under the distribution. The bones are still shaking - let's see how they lie.
  19. 1aspid1
    1aspid1 22 March 2014 20: 28
    +2
    All bullshit with Ukraine because of gold has gone!
    See the chain of events
    1. Germany requires gold stored in the USA
    2. The United States begins to dynamite Germany so long that the latter begin to get nervous.
    3. The USA gives Germany gold, but not with the seal of Germany (for some kind of reason, it was necessary to re-melt)
    4. Not only Germany begins to get nervous, but also other European countries (is the boy alive)
    5. The United States strikes Cyprus, through which Gazprombank bought gold for our treasury.
    6. A bodybuilder with Ukraine starts up (no need to harbor illusions that someone needs it as a sales market so that this market can buy, it must be able to make money) in order to set Europe against Russia and it again forgot about its gold reserves, by the way for which is being pulled by the United States as by the strings of our Western "partners".
    That's somehow how I see it for myself.
    1. rasputin17
      rasputin17 22 March 2014 20: 52
      +1
      This is a wrapper !! There are many other factors because of which the EU is ready to go like a herd of sheep under a knife!
    2. andrewvlg
      andrewvlg 22 March 2014 21: 20
      +1
      Quote: 1aspid1
      A bodybuilder starts up with Ukraine (no need to harbor illusions that someone needs it as a sales market, so that this market can buy, it must be able to make money) in order to set Europe against Russia and it again forgot about its gold reserves, by the way for which and pulls the US like the strings of our Western "partners".

      As you put it, it's been happening with Ukraine for 23 years, how many times has it been invited to NATO? All these Ukrainian NGOs have been funded by the United States for exactly 23 years, and the activation took place not because of the "gold of Europe" - by the way, where is it ?, but because of the desire to appoint a protege of the West instead of the pro-Russian Yanukovych + the weakness of presidential power in Ukraine. I don't put a minus.
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 23 March 2014 00: 48
        0
        The vagabond with Ukraine has been going on for centuries since the feudal fragmentation and the fall of Kievan Rus under the blows of the Horde and the split of the single Christian church into Catholic and Orthodox with the irrepressible desire of the first to subjugate the second.
    3. Penzyac
      Penzyac 23 March 2014 00: 34
      0
      An interesting point of view, but, nevertheless, it is not necessary to simplify everything so.
  20. individual
    individual 22 March 2014 20: 56
    +1
    Do not flatter yourself.
    I remember the characteristic of Soviet-Chinese relations of the 85s of the last century, it was voiced as follows:
    "The ship of the Chinese policy has moved 100 miles from the American coast, but has not yet approached the Soviet coast, also 100 miles."
    Of course, much has changed, but interests remain.
    When they coincide, when not very.
  21. rasputin17
    rasputin17 22 March 2014 21: 02
    +2
    In addition to economic interests, the author did not mention the political interests of China in the Pacific region !!! After all, China now has a lot of controversial issues with Japan and the Philippines, not to mention Vietnam and South Korea !! The neutral, silent position of a large neighbor from the north suits him very much !! He can always come to an agreement with India, for example, take disputed territories in the Himalayas where India did not even argue, but simply gave it away! With a protected rear, he can continue to expand his expansion in the Pacific!
    1. Rupor
      Rupor 22 March 2014 21: 20
      +1
      It will be great if the Chinese and Indians establish relations on the border
  22. Lawless
    Lawless 22 March 2014 21: 04
    +1
    Something I don’t remember being attacked from the East !!! A rod from Europe !!!
    1. not main
      not main 23 March 2014 01: 52
      0
      Quote: Lawless
      Something I don’t remember being attacked from the East !!! A rod from Europe !!!

      Interestingly, your history teacher went on maternity leave? Just for reminder, and only the 20th century: 1904; 19-24; 38; 39; 68 is not enough?
  23. Alexander I
    Alexander I 22 March 2014 21: 05
    +2
    Alexander 3 Peacemaker
    Russia has no friends, its vastness is afraid. Russia has only two reliable allies - this is its army and navy.
  24. Native grandfather
    Native grandfather 22 March 2014 21: 12
    +1
    Indeed, according to the Chinese themselves, it is their state that is middle, located in the very center of the world; the rest of the states, including Russia, are considered by him, if not as barbaric, then definitely as alien.

    The most interesting thing is that this concept of the Chinese worldview is not some kind of imposed media idea or anything else. This is part of their cultural subconscious, originating at the genetic level from ancient times, which they revere. And this should always be taken into account when building relationships with them. I say this as a Russian citizen living there.
  25. andrewvlg
    andrewvlg 22 March 2014 21: 25
    +2
    We need to cooperate with China, but the east is a delicate matter! You can only count on yourself. Russia will be a strong power, China and not only will be "friends" with it. It will be weak - everyone can turn away and betray.
  26. takeshi
    takeshi 22 March 2014 21: 45
    +1
    Historical partner, not historical.
    We have historically close countries like Serbia, Bulgaria, now Ukraine.
    Where is their friendship and support?
    They need our state only in certain cases, the code needs help, support. After us, with HUGE pleasure they try to mix with manure, until the next problem.

    China is a strong state with its geopolitical interests. At the moment, we are on the way, they supported us. We are grateful to them, there will be an opportunity - we will answer them the same. Well, if you have to defend your point of view, it will need to be done with dignity.

    Unfortunately, honor, dignity, and adherence to this word are not in honor now, and politics, in principle, is a very dirty business.
    Therefore, it is necessary to cultivate honest and worthy people, diplomats.
    To create a strong, powerful state based precisely on the peoples of our state, without regard to everyone else.
    If we are strong, honest and fair to our people and keep the word given to strangers - very, very many will reach us.
    But it will be extremely difficult.
  27. shelva
    shelva 22 March 2014 21: 49
    +2
    It would be nice if China ran into the Americans for the Pacific region - maybe this would cool the mattresses. As for China’s relations with Russia, I agree with the author of the article - acting in their own interests, they support us.
  28. Filand
    Filand 22 March 2014 22: 31
    +2
    Quote: Rus2012
    With these guys we already fought together in the same trenches and more than once -

    The Chinese and I need to be friends. From my own experience (joint exercises within the framework of the CSTO), I can say that their discipline in the army, multiplied by the number of soldiers of this same army, is a power ...
  29. VeteranS
    VeteranS 22 March 2014 22: 52
    +1
    The time of one polar world and US leadership after the collapse of the USSR has passed. In addition to the United States and the European Union, Russia and China entered the world stage. The strategic interests of China and Russia coincide in containing America’s permissiveness. The United States does not want to develop mutually beneficial relations between Russia and the European Union and the Ukrainian Maidan is one of the links in their insidious plan. China has actually taken our side in the Crimean issue, but because of Taiwan they are doing it gently and delicately. India is clearly moving with Russia and China. The time has come when the United States will begin to rapidly lose its leadership position in the world, because this country is bankrupt, and exists only at the expense of the FRS printing press. I look with optimism into the future of my Russia! God save Russia and Holy Russia!
  30. I think so
    I think so 22 March 2014 23: 06
    0
    The article is typically libroid ... The goal is to sow doubts and disagreements between China and Russia ... And by any means ... For the west, the sobz of Russia and China is a nightmare ... but the war is a dream ... Here’s the article masking myself with the correct concepts in ENVIRONMENT in essence because it sows distrust and hostility in the already clouded brains of Russians ...
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 23 March 2014 01: 21
      +1
      Quote: I think so
      The article is typically libroid ... The goal is to sow doubts and disagreements between China and Russia ... And by any means ... For the west, the sobz of Russia and China is a nightmare ... but the war is a dream ... Here’s the article masking myself with the correct concepts in ENVIRONMENT in essence because it sows distrust and hostility in the already clouded brains of Russians ...


      You are wrong, the article is completely balanced and reasoned without "all-pro-countryness" and hurray-patriotism, if you do not agree with certain provisions of the article, then speak out on them specifically, and do not hi all together, it is not productive.
      1. Retribution
        Retribution 23 March 2014 01: 38
        0
        article by liberalist pi9erast ...
  31. Retribution
    Retribution 23 March 2014 01: 37
    0
    the author is ... a hellish provocateur and a pierced ... yator ... I see no reason to justify the words, because he is a stupid imbitil and the fact that he eats poop is not a fact of the moment that everyone else should eat poop. with one hand he promotes the thesis that China is an ally - with the other that it is not an ally and pushes (brilliantly!) the phrase that Russia has only 2 allies - the army and the navy !!! Russia has always had allies among foreign states, but the fact that he refers to the "army and navy" as the French say is "the last argument of the kings. The army and navy are not allies of Russia - this is Russia
  32. Cossacks
    Cossacks 23 March 2014 01: 45
    0
    They rolled out a lip about China. I remember Domansky about which I know not from the newspapers. Such scum which the light did not see. By the way, especially for philanthropists. He lived in Siberia and was surprised at the large red tomatoes in the Chinese market. The benefit of Shanghai (city district) was nearby. The shit solution was enlightened in a green tomato with a syringe and all Michurin is resting.
    1. viktor_ui
      viktor_ui 23 March 2014 05: 52
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      Cossacks - they don’t squirt it into a tomato, as you deigned to say it, but MACHU ... you can piss it on a bush with green tomatoes if you wish and note the time before they turn red wassat And finally, I already knew about such crap in the early 80s as a student - BUT THE WHOLE EARLY RED TOMATOES wink But the early strawberries were poured over the tochnik with pickle from gavnets_ Oh, this wild and beloved Tajikistan of the 80s - I don’t get the current drinks
  33. Skifo
    Skifo 23 March 2014 02: 12
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    China needs us more than we need them. There are a number of reasons for this: China is a geographically limited country - north-west - Russia and the mountains, South - India and pro-American countries, the east - the ocean, and the USA and Japan will not give them power in the ocean. .. plus we have resources ...
  34. Vyacheslav73
    Vyacheslav73 23 March 2014 02: 45
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    Quote: pravoved
    At least the Chinese did not fight in a coalition with Germany against the USSR, unlike many Slavic "brothers" who are now ready to gnaw the throat of Russia!


    A competent statement, but one should not forget that China has its own cinema for world dominance, and what role Russia has in it is not yet clear ... God forbid that the role of partner ... We must be prepared for any turn It has already been said that Russia's best ally is its ARMY and Navy! Glory of the Great Russian Empire !!!
  35. mamont5
    mamont5 23 March 2014 08: 01
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    All is correct. Each state builds its policy in accordance with its interests. Both China, India, and even Belarus and Kazakhstan support us when it is beneficial to them. This is natural and normal. We just need to conduct our policies in such a way that supporting us is beneficial. One must be strong, developed, then the allies will immediately appear.
  36. The contemplative
    The contemplative 23 March 2014 14: 42
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    http://www.clubvi.ru/news/2014/03/17/329/