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So that's what they do in Russia with the oligarchs ...

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Until recently, I did not particularly analyze the state of the Russian economy and the actions of its authorities (at least, did not focus their attention on them). And then suddenly the Russian Federation was much closer and more significant than some would have liked. Therefore, now, at least for the near future, you will have to move your focus on her. My last article on the global economy and the role of Russia in it was sold very widely. Reading the comments under it on various sites, I noticed that some readers interpret the facts stated in it in a very strange and contradictory way. It became obvious that a continuation of the topic was needed, with additional explanations.


Whatever happens, some commentators are still dissatisfied and pessimistic: the ruble is getting stronger — it's bad, the ruble is weakening — it's still bad. Of course, there is a share of relativity and dialectics in this, but not within the same logic, the same criteria! Much of the critics from the “patriots” state that Russia will not be able to get out of the dollar space and go to mutual settlements with other BRICS countries in the national currencies of these countries as long as it owns significant reserves of dollars - this will hurt Russia itself, gold reserves (gold reserves). And at the same time they state that in the Russian Federation a significant amount of strategic assets (up to 70%) belong to foreigners, which makes the economy dependent on external management. Two perfectly true and fair comments. But they completely ignore the current dynamics of the processes! And the current dynamics is such that it just solves these two problems, and is interconnected (and very beautiful). What happens to the Russian economy?

First, all analysts have been fixing the outflow of capital from Russia for a couple of months. And, as I have already noted, it is not investment capital that is leaving, but speculative. As a whole, it only benefits the economy. At the same time, inflated assets are blown away to a more realistic price, which is also positive. Moreover, even if the price of assets becomes slightly lower than their real value, this only makes them more attractive to capital investors, whose entry was previously hindered by speculators. At the same time, the state is able to partially buy up these assets by increasing its share in strategic sectors. And do it, mind you, on the declining trend. That "Buy low"! Secondly, the outgoing speculators are withdrawn from the Russian economy is clearly not rubles. Naturally, they are forced to buy dollars. And on the background of a low ruble, they have to do it at a disadvantageous rate.

What is the Russian government doing at this time? "Currency interventions in order to stop the depreciation of the ruble." Is it really stop? To stop them clearly not enough. If you look at it from the other side, then you can call selling dollars at a high price at the peak of rush demand. Sell ​​high! Moreover, the threat of an excessive fall in the ruble does not exist, since the ruble mass in turnover corresponds to approximately 350 billion dollars, and the gold reserves amount to about 500 billions. The 1998 lesson of the year is well remembered and accounted for. Theoretically, the Central Bank of Russia can buy all the cash rubles in nature and still remain (although in practice it will never be necessary). An additional factor of stabilization is the positive balance of foreign trade. For 2013 year in the Russian Federation, it amounted to over 208 billion dollars. This is both a possible source of replenishment of gold reserves in the event of their “weight loss”, and the guarantee that even a significant reduction in oil prices will not be able to carry out the same cruel joke with Russia that it played with the USSR since Gorbachev. To bring down the Russian economy, without bringing down the world economy, today is almost unreal.

I am already silent about the fact that such accumulation of capital is the most powerful modernization potential (how it can and will be realized is a separate topic). The lack of understanding of the essence of these processes is explained by the false analysis methodology of most experts. Even the majority of “left-wing” experts use such liberal concepts as “inflow / outflow of capital”, “investment attractiveness”, “stability of the course”, “threat of devaluation” and all sorts of false criteria for the effectiveness of managing the economy (which is to say about market liberals, which in their heads are only the dogmas of their blind faith divorced from reality). Which, of course, confuses understanding. There is no such confusion in the pure Marxist model. In fact, there is a disposal of extra dollars, the transformation of the gold and foreign currency reserves lying in a dead weight into strategic assets, with double profit along the way. Fiercely, applauding wildly. I do not know who is the author of this brilliant operation, but I want to see him in the Padawans. For contrast, I will give an example with the Ukrainian economy. It almost everything is exactly the opposite.

Only the cash hryvnia mass is approximately equal to the equivalent of 22-23 billion dollars. And the gold and foreign currency reserves are less than 15 billions (although there are unverified rumors that they are only 1,5 billion, but I think that it is just some citizens who confuse the gold reserves with balances in the Treasury accounts). Therefore, to bring down the Ukrainian economy is simple - you just need to “ask” the state to sell a couple of billion dollars. Accordingly, the trade balance is negative and is approximately minus 1,5-2 billion per month. In a situation of meager gold reserves, Ukraine faces a permanent threat of default, forcing any government to continuously and frantically search for sources of external financing (credit, of course). Of course, there is no talk of any modernization potential. At the same time, the share of state ownership in the economy is not 30%, as in Russia (where it also grows), but approximately 4-5%, with a constant tendency to decrease. And what does the interim government of Ukraine do? It is trying to urgently sell the remnants of this property, even at the cost of a significant underestimation of the sale value of assets compared to real.

That is, if it is short: inefficient, unprofitable, illiterate, in cons, without potential and reserves, to merge for a penny and get into new debts. And this is not only the fault of Yanukovich, but of the entire economic policy of Ukraine of the last 23 years. Including Tymoshenko and Yatsenyuk, who actively sold state property off 2005 and doubled the national debt of Ukraine in 2008-2009. As you can see, the contrast is striking. And why? The answer is obvious: in Russia, the state machine took control of the oligarchy, having dealt with the most odious characters (sending or planting them), and in Ukraine, the oligarchy took over the state, making it a mechanism for serving its interests.

You can, of course, disagree, but the facts - a stubborn thing.
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  1. pogis
    pogis 23 March 2014 07: 16
    +41
    I applaud while standing!
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 23 March 2014 07: 23
      +21
      In fact, there is a disposal of extra dollars, the transformation of the gold and foreign currency reserves lying in a dead weight into strategic assets, with double profit along the way. Fiercely, applaud frantically. I do not know who is the author of this brilliant operation, but I want to see him in the Padawans.

      Interestingly, there are rumors about buying the assets of state corporations, about Rosneft, the information was exactly what they bought out a solid package! And it seems like the truth!
    2. W1950
      W1950 23 March 2014 07: 24
      +13
      A vivid example, the governors in the southeast. Now they will finish off industry and their historical homeland.
      1. sledgehammer102
        sledgehammer102 23 March 2014 09: 41
        +8
        No matter what happens, some commentators are still unhappy and pessimistic: the ruble is strengthening - poorly, the ruble is weakening - still bad.


        Any song of liberal economists, in any event, be it Crimea, Sochi, APEC, Nord Stream, Ust-Luga, Superjet or something else, you need to find something bad and just talk about it, because there can be no such thing in the Kremlin or in the Duma, they did something right.
      2. Foreman49
        Foreman49 23 March 2014 10: 23
        +7
        Kharkov TANDEM of Dobnik and Kernes, these thimbles are for these purposes, like Yatsenyuk!
    3. Tumbleweed
      Tumbleweed 23 March 2014 09: 51
      +22
      I do not know who is the author of this brilliant operation, but I want to go to him in Padawans.

      I know who this author works for and who made him work ... This man seems to have taken the reins seriously and now rules the rushing three Russia, not looking at the cries of jackals, and it seems he got a taste and he began to like it. The labeled one was bought with the glory of a "perestroika" and the first of the General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union was received in the West and tenderly clapped his hands on his disfigured head, EBN was given a drink and was called a friend, and as it is known for drunks, the main question is "do you respect me?"
      Putin plowed for a long time like a galley slave, but with his hands tied, now it looks like he got rid of the shackles or it happened that what we do not know, but I like his actions more and more. Intelligently, clearly, in a grandmaster's manner, he conducts his game and the Western leaders, who are not accustomed to "independent Russia," go into hysterics in their eating habits and understand that they are at least 2-3 moves behind. And the leaders, to be honest, are not so hot, except for Merkel and there is no one to name.

      For contrast, I will give an example with the Ukrainian economy.


      And here it’s like in that joke:
      The hare opened a procurement office, accepts apples for a ruble apiece, washes them and sells them for 50 kopecks. The fox makes his way through the line and asks: "Hare, what are you doing? Did you calculate the income?"
      The hare answered: "Not yet, but the turnover is crazy" wassat
      So Yaytsenyukh exports the gold of Ukraine to America under the guarantee of a loan of a billion dollars ... Or some kind of "game" or stupid. It seems to me that people are buying themselves a "pension" and a security guarantee after fleeing from Ukraine, he does not look like a stupid one hi
      1. a52333
        a52333 23 March 2014 10: 55
        +5
        It's just some kind of holiday !!!!
    4. witch
      witch 23 March 2014 13: 55
      +8
      not the topic of course, but still the people of the RUSSIAN FEDERATION
      please buy goods only produced in our country, that is, RUSSIAN. or at least as little as possible produced in Europe and America. thereby you support our producer. and reduce the outflow of capital over the hill.
    5. DS14
      DS14 23 March 2014 15: 15
      +4
      I have been suspecting for six months now that the Central Bank is getting rid of green candy wrappers at the maximum price ...
  2. svetlomor
    svetlomor 23 March 2014 07: 16
    +38
    frantically seek sources of external financing (credit, of course).
    1. Igor39
      Igor39 23 March 2014 07: 48
      +25
      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/306/fzun161.jpg
    2. Foreman49
      Foreman49 23 March 2014 10: 26
      +7
      Yatsenyuk no matter what happens in Ukraine! He is a citizen of the world and the main thing for him is to snatch and dump. Chevron will thank him!
  3. Sergg
    Sergg 23 March 2014 07: 19
    +36
    in Russia, the state machine took control of the oligarchy, cracking down on the most odious characters (sending or planting them), and in Ukraine, the oligarchy took over the state, making it a mechanism for serving its interests.


    This is 100% true. It was the power of the oligarchs that dropped Ukraine. Each politician ate from the hands of the oligarchs, instead of becoming their master, and the oligarchs became the fifth column of Ukraine, and under the dictation of the West they destroyed the state.
    1. shtanko.49
      shtanko.49 23 March 2014 09: 27
      +17
      I’m very afraid that, as if Medvedev and his gaydarchaty didn’t cheat again, he has nothing besides grabbing anything in his head, a liberal of horseradish.
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 23 March 2014 10: 02
        +6
        Quote: shtanko.49
        how would Medvedev with his gaydarchat not spoiled

        By the way, really! And why did the liberals and "effective managers" shut their mouths? And LADIES have been saying little recently! I don't believe that this performance was, how many emotions and expression are needed so that everyone, including the West and their own people, should hang noodles, and then Herax and on you the Olympics, Herax and sanctions on the side !!! what
        1. bif
          bif 23 March 2014 15: 00
          +3
          Quote: Sid.74
          By the way, really! Why did the liberals and "effective managers" shut their mouths? And LADIES have been saying little recently! I don't believe that this performance was

          A performance or a really new economic course will be visible after the storm settles down, for me personally it will be an indicator of change - the beginning of criminal cases against such as Chubais ... with confiscation naturally!
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 24 March 2014 11: 52
            0
            The last show with the repurchase of shares of our monopolies - they say this is Medvedev’s move, so you shouldn’t go for it, he earned Russia in a day - about 20-30 billion dollars + shares at bargain prices
            1. bif
              bif 24 March 2014 12: 52
              0
              Quote: c-Petrov
              The last show with the repurchase of shares of our monopolies - they say this is Medvedev’s move, so you shouldn’t go for it, he earned Russia in a day - about 20-30 billion dollars + shares at bargain prices

              Medvedev is a puny lawyer .... such tricks are not accessible to him because of the lack of specialized education and experience, and most importantly by his character, to put it mildly, he is weak for such matters.
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  4. thrower
    thrower 23 March 2014 07: 19
    +43
    I do not know who is the author of this brilliant operation, but I want to go to him in Padawans.


    Sergey Yuryevich Glazyev (b. 1 January 1961, Zaporozhye, USSR) - Russian economist, politician, adviser to the President of the Russian Federation V. Putin on regional economic integration [1].
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 23 March 2014 07: 25
      +17
      Quote: thrower
      Sergey Yurievich Glazyev

      It is not for nothing that he was blacklisted by a European with usa, everything can be! I immediately thought of him too! laughing
      1. Igor39
        Igor39 23 March 2014 07: 52
        +31
        He said that Russia might refuse the dollar, and the Kremlin said that this was Glazyev’s personal opinion and did not reflect the Kremlin’s position. But everyone understood the hint ... smile
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 23 March 2014 08: 04
          +17
          Quote: Igor39
          But everyone understood the hint ... smile
          He also hinted about leaving the visa and the master card! yes
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          2. alexng
            alexng 23 March 2014 14: 14
            +7
            Yeah, and the jackals immediately unlocked the cards.
  5. mad
    mad 23 March 2014 07: 24
    +23
    That's why Russia is the concentration of world hatred, and the egg is stroking the whole world. Vova, who has been writing for the umpteenth time, took such dibs on this short-term raising of a buck that not only will it be enough to raise the Crimea, but if the whole of Ukraine is needed ... isn’t it all the time to drink blood from the West from Russia? It's time to give debts!
    1. thrower
      thrower 23 March 2014 14: 55
      +4
      Only a small nuance, the person who did it is worthy to be called the President, or Vladimir Vladimirovich
      1. mad
        mad 23 March 2014 15: 28
        +3
        I agree, but in my case, "Vova" is a sign of the highest trust in this Person, the attitude towards my board, the Person with whom I would go to intelligence. Well, something like that in general soldier
        1. voldmis
          voldmis 23 March 2014 17: 12
          +3
          Quote: mad
          Only a small nuance, the person who did it is worthy to be called the President, or Vladimir Vladimirovich


          Quote: mad
          I agree, but in my case, "Vova" is a sign of the highest trust in this Person, the attitude towards my board, the Person with whom I would go to intelligence. Well, something like that in general soldier



          And in due time I was minus on this site when I asked not to make any hasty conclusions about V.V. Putin and give him time ...
          http://topwar.ru/36090-pochemu-putina-2013-sravnivayut-s-pozdnim-brezhnevym.html
          # comment-id-1693613
          You can evaluate the opinions of people by the comments back in November 2013.
          How quickly time flies and the opinion of the people changes! good
  6. Name
    Name 23 March 2014 07: 25
    +27
    Macroeconomics is a serious, incomprehensible thing, especially for anyone who doesn’t understand this (but I! repeat), but if, instead of Western "investors" (speculators), oligarchs of Russian citizenship begin to invest in our economy, even with the "help" of sanctions from the West and "proposals" from the leadership of RUSSIA, -it will only gain. hi
  7. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 23 March 2014 07: 41
    +11
    In short, the matter is dark. One thing is clear, all these Scents and Bokas were put up by the Americans to speed up the sale! The oligarchs of Ukraine obviously do not already have a nationality, and they don’t have us. And Americans will be pushed that they need cheap things and will remain with their own. And some of them will also weld up pushing the fuel and lubricants army at a double price. Apparently Ukraine is waiting for the fate of Yugoslavia, because Yaytsenyuh now only manages to sign ... fooland help .. recourse
  8. Enot-poloskun
    Enot-poloskun 23 March 2014 07: 48
    +17
    I believe that Russia needs new industrialization (the construction of new plants and the deep modernization of new ones) and the intensification of agricultural development (food security) and the pharmaceutical industry.
    1. Nick
      Nick 23 March 2014 09: 56
      +6
      Quote: Enot-poloskun
      I read that Russia needs new industrialization (the construction of new plants and the deep modernization of new ones) and the intensification of agricultural development

      You think it is correct, but so far in the country it is very difficult to get an investment loan even for a high 17-19% loan. Banks want absolutely no risk, which is basically impossible in business. Now enterprises can only hope to get a loan through "kickbacks", which now reach 20-22% of the loan volume, and even with such "kickbacks" there are difficulties in obtaining. In such a situation in the credit sphere, it is difficult to count on the opening of new industries, the creation of new jobs and the rapid growth of production in industry and agriculture, to my deep regret ...
      1. Platov
        Platov 23 March 2014 11: 26
        +5
        Soon there will be no such high interest, banks will have so much money after deoffshorization that they will give money almost for nothing, so as not to lose their license.
        1. Nick
          Nick 23 March 2014 13: 36
          +2
          Quote: PLATOV
          Soon there will be no such high interest, banks will have so much money after deoffshorization that they will give money almost for nothing, so as not to lose their license.

          "Fresh tradition ..." Well, God forbid ...
      2. dik-fort
        dik-fort 23 March 2014 11: 30
        +12
        As a person who actually lives in rural areas and is directly involved in small-scale agricultural production, I can report that it is NOT PROFITABLE to engage in production in our country. They adopted the Land and Forestry Code, in order to lease land, you have to pay a lot of money from your pocket for surveying, and then go to the auction. Equipment and spare parts are expensive, fuels and lubricants too, there is no labor force, in the nearby village the remaining youth under 25 are almost all drug addicts, a huge decline in men due to drunkenness, almost everyone has died out, and who is still alive, do not want to work, live by theft retired parents. Problems with SALES, used to supply social services, after the introduction of a system of competitions, tenders are usually won by "their" entrepreneurs who do not sow or plow, but simply buy up food. There are a lot of abandoned lands, overgrown with forest. It makes no sense to take loans from a bank at such interest rates, there are practically no subsidies and assistance from the state for small farms, in recent years, regional ministries have directed state support to several large megaprojects, where billions of budget money are successfully used, for example, a super-duper cowshed for a billion rubles , which will pay off for five hundred years, and most likely in five years will simply go bankrupt and be sold cheaply to someone else. That's it.
        1. Nick
          Nick 23 March 2014 13: 39
          +1
          Quite right, my friends in the Vladimir and Yaroslavl regions face similar problems ...
          1. ale-x
            ale-x 24 March 2014 10: 57
            0
            Novgorod region. There is a growing number of newspaper advertisements and a network selling agricultural products from farm farms. Meat, poultry, milk and derivatives, vegetables. There is even a tendency to buy such products is becoming fashionable, TREND, if you want. The farms are not large, but the volumes are growing, this is felt.
  9. Semenov
    Semenov 23 March 2014 07: 50
    +12
    Even in five years Ukraine cannot be raised to the level of Russia - everything has been ruined and stolen by oligarchs and the independent government. It is tempting to build a new economy and a new social system "on the wasteland", taking China or Singapore as a reference point. The government, esno, Russian, let Glazyev rule.
  10. Walk
    Walk 23 March 2014 07: 53
    +8
    The maydanut authorities of the outskirts have another resource for sale. Soon they will begin to sell their countrymen and strangers oligarchs along with servants. In the meantime, they are appointed governors so that the people get used to the new owners. One already began to gird his possessions with a ditch. laughing
  11. siberalt
    siberalt 23 March 2014 07: 53
    +7
    In economics, the main thing is that no one gobbles. laughing


    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/369/aqkm792.jpg
  12. bomg.77
    bomg.77 23 March 2014 08: 00
    +12
    Ukraine for the USA can be the beginning of an uncontrolled end, and the end is in their money! I don’t know who posted on the site, but there was infa that Ukraine was pouring the hryvnia and that new samples of money were ordered in Germany. Here is a sample:
  13. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 23 March 2014 08: 01
    +12
    from the Don.
    I sleep and see when obscurantists expel us from the WTO! Even the GDP is not solved!
    1. rozowik
      rozowik 23 March 2014 09: 29
      +1
      Entry only gives us a refreshment of production and access to some markets, or do you want production to work on Soviet equipment before the end of the century?
      1. Beon
        Beon 23 March 2014 14: 50
        +4
        Until the end of the century did production work on Soviet equipment?

        Yes, I want. Only in modern and Russian (Soviet if you like. I have no allergies to the Union.) I want the state and the economy to be self-sufficient and powerful. I want everything necessary to ensure the vital functions, well-being and defense capability of my country to Russia (the Union if whatever) by our citizens. From the last bolt to ... (you yourself can continue). I want to eat high-quality Russian (Belarusian, Novorossiysk) products and not mutagenic Dutch apples and Chinese cucumbers, etc .. I want to live in modern houses built by Russian builders for a decent salary. I want to drive modern, high-quality and well-equipped Russian cars (foreign to me Ponte is not expensive). I want every citizen of Russia, Belarus and Novorossia to live with dignity. But don’t you? You don’t have to say that our people were completely drunk and degraded. Domestic production began to fall apart from the time of perestroika, when the high-quality, skilled work of Workers ceased to be valued. hucksters and thieves of all stripes got into the economy. When in all the media the main characters were not Workers but glamorous prostitutes from glossy magazines, from rubles and thieves from forbes. And even force all of Russia to be imported with machines until we change nothing will change in your attitude to your MOTHERLAND, your work, work, and the dignity of your compatriots. Devastation, it is first and foremost in your head. You need to put things in order in your head, it will determine what is your homeland, what you can give it and not take it. Plus, the political will of the state. It will not be easy, but our Motherland has great potential. Workers, engineers, scientists, resources, everything is there.
        And about "entering some markets", first you need to return your own and fill it with your products, then open your mouth for "some". Otherwise, it looks like the postulate of an ordinary huckster who has a golden calf god.
    2. Name
      Name 23 March 2014 10: 05
      +3
      Quote: borisjdin1957
      I sleep and see when obscurantists expel us from the WTO!

      Another wave this time from England:British Foreign Secretary William Haig called for the exclusion of Russia from a number of international organizations ... Haig also proposes to reduce military cooperation and arms sales, as well as limit Moscow’s influence in Europe ...
      Over the course of 20 years, Britain and its allies in Europe and NATO have gradually built normal relations with Russia, which joined the G8 and the World Trade Organization, the Russia-NATO Council was created, and joint work was organized in the UN Security Council, Haig said. "But Russia's actions in Ukraine take us back to a completely different era. The illegal annexation of Crimea is an outrageous seizure of foreign territory, and the preceding referendum is a mockery of democracy. Russia used force against its brother to change its borders."- the minister is sure.
      belay belay see http://top.rbc.ru/politics/23/03/2014/912877.shtml and the most interesting:
      The head of the British Foreign Ministry is convinced that Moscow’s actions on the Crimean issue are the most serious risk to European security since the beginning of the 21st century. Fundamental principles, including those concerning territorial integrity and the right to choose the population of the democratic countries of their future, were threatenedhe noted.-people's choice is a security risk ... wassat
  14. Quantum
    Quantum 23 March 2014 08: 50
    +16
    Of course, this is the idea of ​​Glazyev’s team! Bravo! Getting rid of the dollar
    masses, Russia buys the property of foreign companies, etc.
    Surely, a powerful plan is being prepared for the transition to a new currency, when paying for oil and gas! It will be a bomb!
    1. alexng
      alexng 23 March 2014 15: 53
      0
      This process has already begun and cannot be stopped. We are seeing dollar agony, and therefore the United States. By the way, the Euro is also merging in Russia. What is it for?
  15. pensioner
    pensioner 23 March 2014 09: 36
    +8
    I didn’t understand anything crying, but after the author I applaud Putin. yes I went to the library for literature on economics ...
  16. vadimalehin76
    vadimalehin76 23 March 2014 10: 07
    +2
    The article is written with meaning and not an eyebrow but in the eye. I also want to Express my gratitude to the Author for the accurate and most importantly thought-out material. The mass of gray-green papers had to be disposed of for a long time.
  17. Good_Taxist
    Good_Taxist 23 March 2014 10: 32
    +5
    Quote: Sid.74
    I do not know who is the author of this brilliant operation, but I want to see him in Padawans

    Give a HUNDRED AND FORTY MILLION padawans !!!
  18. Zomanus
    Zomanus 23 March 2014 10: 50
    0
    Well, yes, we will need a lot of money now. To rebuild the Crimea from scratch. It would be nice to update the social system and communal apartment inside the country as well. This year, I think, we will not see a special breakthrough in the volume of the country. For there will be battles with the West. And if something else moves away from Ukraine, then there will generally be hysteria with snot. That is, the funds will go purely to consolidate the territories. Well, from 2015 of the year you look and in the country they will update, finish building.
  19. iulai
    iulai 23 March 2014 10: 53
    +7
    There is a way to annoy Britain. Declare the referendum of the inhabitants of the Falkland Islands not legitimate! Declare these islands the property of Argentina! We will get a good ally in South America and annoy the British just about nothing! Vitaly Churkin needs to be reminded of this question, but I'm afraid of drooling over him! You can pre-equip Comrade Churkin with a new jacket and shampoo from saliva! Thanks to the author of the article!
  20. Sib. Uralets
    Sib. Uralets 23 March 2014 10: 56
    +4
    We are moving back to socialism, I hope with a human face. What happened before the 90s cannot be called absolutely. There was some kind of party dictatorship. If you do everything wisely, then this situation will only benefit. And about sanctions and the fear of losing consumer goods, you should not bathe. Already, China produces almost everything that a person needs in life. And we still can’t see Maybach
  21. bubla5
    bubla5 23 March 2014 11: 35
    +2
    Oligarchs to the nail
  22. shelva
    shelva 23 March 2014 11: 41
    +4
    They do not like Russia, because we are smart, strong and selfless and always leave the West with its nose behind. Leave now.
  23. vlad-ns
    vlad-ns 23 March 2014 11: 52
    0
    The author of the article is a complete zero in the economy. For several years, Russia has been making mutual settlements with China both in rubles and in yuan.
  24. Semurg
    Semurg 23 March 2014 11: 56
    -1
    If shares are bought, then the state’s share is increasing. This is done in two cases when the state wants to steer in companies and to prevent an even greater drop in the stock market. Now the question is how long to keep this block of shares to sell it when the market begins to grow and remain in positive territory. Or appoint your managers to the board of directors (as if to get on the list of these directors, this is such a sinecure of no responsibility and not a bad salary with bonuses laughing ) All the same, I think the state’s job is to create the rules of the game for business and not participate in this game (otherwise it is always tempting to adjust these rules for yourself). Therefore, I think if the state enters the business on a fire basis, this is one thing, and if it wants to participate in it it is completely different (and always at the same time new members of the Forbes list of millionaires come out of nowhere, but are close to the current government). And it all ends with a banal redistribution of ownership of budget money, so I don’t mind becoming a Padawan for those who are currently doing this action (suddenly break off at the end of the candle factory laughing )
    1. luka095
      luka095 23 March 2014 12: 44
      +1
      Of course, the state should create the rules of the game for business. But it itself also cannot help but participate in this game - there is a budget that is spent in the country. At least that's why the state is the largest participant in the economy. Even without taking into account state corporations. And yet - no one has proven that private business is more effective than the state, especially in new technologies and infrastructure projects. It is rather a myth that is supported in order to privatize efficient state-owned enterprises. After all, nobody needs ineffective ones!
    2. mpa945
      mpa945 23 March 2014 12: 59
      -1
      Dear, do you exclude the purchase of shares with the expectation of receiving dividends?
      If the conditional enterprise allows the current "owner" from the galaxy of privatizers to be catapulted into the Forbes list, then, in your opinion, the religion does not allow the state to do this?
      Yes, and about the effectiveness of the private trader is better not necessary. The ventilated facade on the office building (the former factory management) does not attract modernization of production.
      1. Semurg
        Semurg 23 March 2014 16: 22
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        Quote: mpa945
        Dear, do you exclude the purchase of shares with the expectation of receiving dividends?
        If the conditional enterprise allows the current "owner" from the galaxy of privatizers to be catapulted into the Forbes list, then, in your opinion, the religion does not allow the state to do this?
        Yes, and about the effectiveness of the private trader is better not necessary. The ventilated facade on the office building (the former factory management) does not attract modernization of production.

        In order to receive dividends, you need to put your people on the board, and this is an increase in the number of officials, and you still need officials to follow the first, and knowing the nature of our officials, you also need to follow so that the first do not come to an agreement with the second (in general, as they say and so in the Russian Federation it became more than it was in the USSR, where everything was state). I won’t argue about efficiency, I don’t have knowledge in this area, if you have any wink . Religion allows the state to engage in its direct duties, and not get into business.
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      3. cozy
        cozy 23 March 2014 22: 08
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        for sure! the cut-off is in the spring (March-May), so that the state will earn extra money on dividends. A bit, a tiny bit - that’s the compensation for losses from sanctions (which still need to be calculated - maybe there will generally be a profit). And this is not counting the return of the Crimea!
  25. J. Tapia
    J. Tapia 23 March 2014 12: 11
    +1
    A son:
    - Dad, show me affection, who are Jews, and who are Jews, who are Russian, and who, who are such, and who are Ukrainians?
    Father, not ceasing to cut slices of bacon, looked at his son and said:
    - Jews, son, live in Israel. This heroic people has been fighting against Muslim aggressors for 60 years, is building its own state, has the very best army and beautiful deeds. And the Jews, son, live in Ukraine. To drink our vodka, sleep with our girls, buy our houses and try to build an independent Ukraine.

    -Russian, son, live in Russia - a huge country. They extract oil and gas, sell timber, build and cherish their statehood. And, to my son, these are those bastards who live in Ukraine, they eat, scum, our lard, drink our vodka, seduce our girls and try to build an independent Ukraine.

    -Well, son, they live in Ukraine, drink our vodka, eat our lard, sleep with our wives and try to build an independent Ukraine. And the Ukrainians, son, live HERE in CANADA, and we eat Ukrainian lard, drink the real, our, native gorilka, work tirelessly, and see how these oaths prevent the Jews and the pits from building an independent Ukraine ...
  26. dik-fort
    dik-fort 23 March 2014 12: 12
    +1
    Quote: Semurg
    All the same, I think the state’s job is to create the rules of the game for business and not participate in this game (otherwise it is always tempting to adjust these rules for yourself).

    I agree that the state needs to create the rules of the game, but participation in strategic and profitable sectors of the economy is beneficial both to the budget and, accordingly, to the people, which is bad because the budget will receive additional income through dividends.
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 23 March 2014 14: 59
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      Quote: dik-fort
      Quote: Semurg
      All the same, I think the state’s job is to create the rules of the game for business and not participate in this game (otherwise it is always tempting to adjust these rules for yourself).

      I agree that the state needs to create the rules of the game, but participation in strategic and profitable sectors of the economy is beneficial both to the budget and, accordingly, to the people, which is bad because the budget will receive additional income through dividends.

      What is an official, what is a businessman, and what is good and bad in combining these two activities and where and how to draw a line between serving the people, what is the work of an official and the desire for profit, what is the essence of a businessman? These issues are drawn to a separate article which I can’t handle due to my lack of education, but still I think it’s necessary to distinguish between these two activities, taking officials out of business. Budget revenues should come from taxes and fees, and it is up to the state and officials to administer them correctly (create game rules).
      1. dik-fort
        dik-fort 23 March 2014 19: 26
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        Quote: Semurg
        Budget revenues should come from taxes and fees, and it is up to the state and officials to administer them correctly (create game rules.

        This is one of the dogmas of liberal economists, but in practice it is not always applied in the world, for example, in Norway, oil and gas companies are in the hands of the state. Or why invest a reserve fund, billions of dollars in US bonds at 1,5-2% per annum, actually lending to the US budget, including and military, when you can buy shares of Russian companies that constantly generate profit with a dividend yield of 5-8% with the prospect of an increase in the market value. I consider the thesis that state representatives on the boards of directors of JSC not competent not justified.
  27. Koenig39
    Koenig39 23 March 2014 12: 50
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    Quote: pogis
    Fiercely applaud furiously

    +100500
  28. Alexanderlaskov
    Alexanderlaskov 23 March 2014 13: 20
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    Without strong power, corruption and the betrayal of greedy oligarchs cannot be curbed.
  29. thrower
    thrower 23 March 2014 13: 34
    +1
    Kshatriyas and sudras in India, kshatriyas are warrior castes, they can rule the state, sudras are merchants and craftsmen, they cannot take part in the affairs of the state. A useful classification of citizens of the country.
    Do you want to trade - do not go into state-building, there you need slightly different qualities.
  30. demotivator
    demotivator 23 March 2014 13: 54
    +1
    No matter what happens, some commentators are still unhappy and pessimistic: the ruble is strengthening - poorly, the ruble is weakening - still bad.

    Well, only one commentator would be unhappy. And what to do in these conditions for those who are not a commentator, but a simple layman, just a resident of Russia? A standing ovation, as some here suggest? So something is not very good - and I want to applaud neither standing up nor lying down, especially looking at price tags in shops and at gas stations. And about utility bills - so it’s better not to remember about them. at the same time, all promised pension indexations are hopelessly behind inflation. Ultimately, all this will inevitably explode, as in Greece, or recently in Spain, or elsewhere, it does not matter. The euphoria will inevitably pass, and the harsh realities of everyday life will remain. But the year has just begun - there is still a summer increase in tariffs for housing and communal services.
  31. konvalval
    konvalval 23 March 2014 14: 29
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    I am not an economist; therefore, I understood one thing from the article. We talk about the economy as in a joke about a crushed bug: an optimist-cognac smells like a pessimist-bug.
  32. DS14
    DS14 23 March 2014 15: 11
    +1
    Gepa said so:



    negative
  33. VL33
    VL33 23 March 2014 16: 51
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    It is necessary to leave the dollar and sell energy for our rubles, and only for rubles and the entire customs union to transfer Syria to Iran and other countries.
    1. cozy
      cozy 23 March 2014 22: 13
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      and tie the ruble to gold, as it was under the king ... let them jump.
  34. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 23 March 2014 22: 31
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    I do not understand. Ukraine for a visa regime, ours against the introduction of a regime. Ours support the Ukrainian hryvnia, and the ruble is falling. Or we don’t know something, or the goals are different from those stated.