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Anti-aircraft missile and artillery complex "Palash" / "Palma"

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For 2014, it is planned to begin testing the head frigate of project 22350 Admiral fleet Soviet Union Gorshkov. " This ship is equipped with powerful missile and artillery weapons for various purposes. Of particular interest is the new anti-aircraft system installed on the new frigate. To protect the ship from missiles and aviation enemy in the near zone frigates of project 22350 should receive a new anti-aircraft missile and artillery complex (ZRAK) 3M89 Broadsword.


Anti-aircraft missile and artillery complex "Palash" / "Palma"
CRAFT "Palash" on the missile boat P-60 (http://forums.airbase.ru)


Despite the fact that the CEL 3M89 "Palash" was created in the early nineties, to date it has not received much distribution. According to reports, the Russian Navy has only a few complexes of this model. In particular, one of them is mounted on the Black Sea Fleet’s R-60 rocket boat. The construction of new frigates of the 22350 project will significantly increase the number of used anti-aircraft systems of the new model.

The first mentions of the new anti-aircraft missile and artillery complex, developed in the Design Bureau of Precision Engineering. A.E. Nudelman, appeared in the mid-nineties. The Palace "Palash" was developed as a less complex alternative to the complex "Kortik" that existed at that time in the Tula Instrument Design Bureau.

In the first half of the last decade, an experienced 3P89 combat module was assembled, designated A-289. The module was tested at the test site, after which it was installed on the P-60 missile boat. CRAFT "Palash", installed on the boat, was tested to 2007 year. At the end of the same year, a new anti-aircraft system was put into trial operation, which it still has.

Anti-aircraft missile and artillery complex "Palash" is intended to create a continuous zone of air defense of a ship or boat at a distance of 10 kilometers. For the destruction of targets in the CIRC "Palash" there are two artillery guns and a set of guided missiles. This allows you to create a layered zone of destruction and thereby increase the likelihood of successful destruction of the target: an object that has broken through the zone of responsibility of the missiles will be destroyed by artillery.


The defeat zones of the air defense missile system with Sosna-R missiles (from the KB Tochmash site, 2008)


The combat module 3Р89 SPARAH "Palash" combines several different systems, which allows you to install it on any suitable ship with a displacement of more than 500 tons. The combat module includes the main unit, which houses a part of the equipment. Guidance equipment is installed on the upper surface of the main unit. On the side surfaces - the mechanisms of fastening guns and missiles.


Combat module 3Р89 CENT "Palash" with ammunition and XURUM 9М337 (3D-model, author - Allocer, http://allocer.nxt.ru/models/military/palash/palash.htm)




3D-model and projections of the 3P89 combat module SPARE 3М89 "Palash" (by Allocer, http://allocer.nxt.ru/models/military/palash/palash.htm)


To destroy targets at ranges up to 4000 meters and at altitudes up to 3000 m, the Palash complex can use two AO-18KD anti-aircraft guns. 30 mm six-barreled guns have a rate of fire of up to 5 thousand shots per minute (total - 10 thousand shots per minute). According to reports, anti-aircraft guns MILK "Palash" use shells of two types. High-explosive shells have an initial speed of up to 940 m / s and are capable of destroying targets with an explosion and shrapnel. Armor piercing shells leave the barrel at speeds up to 1100 m / s. The artillery part of the anti-aircraft complex is equipped with an auger-free auger feed system. In the stores of the combat module is placed up to 1500 shells.

Destruction of targets outside the firing range of the guns is proposed to be carried out with the help of 9М337 “Sosna-R” missiles. Up to eight transport-launch containers with these ammunition can be installed on the combat module SPARK “Palash”. The guided missile with a launch weight of about 30 kg is made according to a two-stage scheme. When exiting the transport and launch container, the rocket uses a first-stage accelerated discharged engine; after separation, the flight is carried out using the power unit of the sustainer stage. The maximum speed of the rocket 9М337 is declared at the level of 875 m / s. The maximum range of destruction - 10 km, the maximum height - 5 km.


SAM 9M337 (photo by Said Aminov, http://pvo.guns.ru)


The Sosna-R anti-aircraft missile has an original control system. At the initial part of the flight, the missile is aimed at the target by the commands of the anti-aircraft complex coming in via a radio channel. After the missile reaches the line of sight, control is exercised using a secure laser command system. Such a control system and the high maneuverability of the rocket, it is claimed, significantly increases its combat capabilities. The rocket carries a rod warhead weighing about 5 kg.

For search and tracking of targets ZRAK 3М89 "Palash" can use external guidance from shipborne radar systems. In addition, there is its own optical-electronic control station "Ball", located on the upper surface of the combat module. Television and thermal imaging equipment, a laser range finder, as well as an antenna and a missile guidance laser are located under the characteristic spherical jacket.


Module OESU "Ball" ZRAK "Palash" (2005 g., Version, photo from the archive of Warman, http://militaryrussia.ru/forum)



The antennas of the inquirers of the state-own-alien (lattice) state recognition system and the optical sighting column on the P-60 rocket boat before installing the Palash combat module, SRZ No. XXUMX, Sevastopol, autumn 13 (photo from the archive Warman, http: / /militaryrussia.ru/forum)


The capabilities of the Shar station make it possible to take an “airplane” type target for automatic tracking at distances up to 30 km (depending on the characteristics of the target). For cruise missiles, the maximum capture range is 10-12 kilometers.

Optic-electronic control station "Ball" is associated with a digital computer and other components of the complex. All information about the operation of the systems is displayed on the monitor of the control panel. Depending on the surroundings, the PALACE Palau can operate in fully automatic or semi-automatic mode. In the latter case, part of the control operations is carried out by the operator of the complex using automation.


Cancer "Palash", tests on the missile boat P-60, 2006-2007. (Photo from the archive of Warman, http://militaryrussia.ru/forum)


Missile control systems are protected from interference. The command equipment produces a relatively narrow control beam, which makes it much more difficult to suppress. In addition, the use of a laser control system in the final flight segment almost completely eliminates any jamming of the control signal.

Anti-aircraft missile and artillery complex 3М89 "Palash" is able to carry out the airborne defense of the base ship. Thus, at distances from 1,3 to 10 kilometers, the destruction of the target is carried out with the help of Sosna-R missiles. Aimed fire from automatic cannons can be conducted at a distance from 200 to 4000 meters. 9М337 missiles are capable of destroying targets flying at speeds up to 700 m / s. The maximum speed of the target, which can hit the guns - 300 m / s. The reaction time of the complex does not exceed 5-7 seconds.

CRAFT "Palash" is intended for use on ships of the Russian Navy. For deliveries to foreign customers, a version of the complex called Palma 3М89Е has been developed. According to reports, foreign buyers are given a choice of several options for the Palma system. Depending on their needs, the customer can purchase a fully-equipped anti-aircraft complex, a combat module without surveillance systems, as well as a module with only missile or artillery weapons.

In 2011, two patrol ships of the Russian-made 11661 project “Cheetah-3,9” were accepted into the naval forces of Vietnam. At the request of the customer, these ships received one "Palma" combat module with rocket and artillery weapons. Last year, construction began on two new ships of the same type for the Navy of Vietnam. They should receive the same weapons as the first two patrols.

It is also known that one combat module "Palash" was installed on the Dagestan patrol of the 11661 project. Thus, in the domestic navy at the moment there are only two copies of the Scope “Palash”: on the rocket boat P-60 (experienced combat module) and on the patrol ship “Dagestan”.

Currently, the Palash anti-aircraft missile and artillery complex is the newest system of its class, adopted by the Russian Navy and installed on ships. In the future, it could be replaced by the shipboard Pantsir-M, which was based on the land complex Pantsir-С1. In the meantime, the construction of the 22350 frigates, which are equipped with the X-gun system 3М89 "Palash", continues.


On the materials of the sites:
http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/
http://kbtochmash.ru/
http://bastion-karpenko.narod.ru/
http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-15.html
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  1. PN
    PN 21 March 2014 08: 25
    +19
    Looks like T 105 from Terminator movie belay
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    2. Gennady1973
      Gennady1973 21 March 2014 08: 54
      +11
      PN Indeed, something in its appearance is fantastic (I’ll add more from Robocop), but the main thing is a powerful effective weapon.
    3. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 22 March 2014 04: 36
      +4
      looks worthy! good
  2. Volodya Sibiryak
    Volodya Sibiryak 21 March 2014 08: 59
    +9
    A masterpiece of design and engineering!
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 21 March 2014 09: 04
      -11%
      Quote: Volodya Sibiryak
      A masterpiece of design and engineering!

      Yes, of course, placing the trunks away from the center of mass and then parrying the emerging moments is a very "brilliant" idea.
      1. papik09
        papik09 21 March 2014 15: 37
        +8
        Minus your beleberda (My minus is the eighth in a row)! After all, even on the "shilka" the barrels were directed to the "POINT OF AIM". And there are already four of them! The operator "Shilki" (at one time, it was a long time ago) showed me how the ENTIRE TOWER ACCOMPANIES THE SWALLOW! Yes, yes, the most common swallow (there is such a bird). Trunks (it was my quiet horror !!! good ) - spun together with the tower like crazy !!! To my question, but you can get it, he replied (literally): "In the swallow? wassat . And the fact that the trunks are spaced - then this is - CORRECT! drinks hi
        1. Nayhas
          Nayhas 21 March 2014 15: 51
          +4
          Quote: papik09
          Minus your belebber (My minus is the eighth in a row)!

          Yes, at least 78
          Quote: papik09
          After all, even on the "shilka" the barrels were directed to the "POINT OF AIM". And there are already four of them!

          At Shilka, all the trunks were in almost the same package in the center of mass of the installation. In the Broadsword / Palm, trunks are spaced almost 2 meters apart. It’s clear that the designers from Nudelman’s design bureau worked to compensate for the emerging moment, but what the hell was it for?
          1. 77bob1973
            77bob1973 21 March 2014 16: 15
            +2
            Here, both trunks when shooting compensate for the mutual moments of each other.
            1. Nexus 6
              Nexus 6 21 March 2014 16: 53
              +6
              Field tests conducted at the SRI of the Air Force of the SC showed that firing from an Il-2 aircraft from NS-37 cannons should only be carried out in short bursts of no more than 2-3 shots, since when firing simultaneously from two guns due to their non-synchronism the aircraft experienced significant jolts, pecks and lost its line of sight. Correction in aiming in this case, in principle, was possible. (Http://www.airwar.ru/)

              To compensate for mutual moments, it is necessary to achieve ABSOLUTE firing synchronization, which is hardly possible. And if one of the artillery machines jammed? These problems, one way or another, solved, but really, what for?
              1. Pilat2009
                Pilat2009 21 March 2014 17: 00
                +4
                Quote: Nexus 6
                that firing from an IL-2 airplane from NS-37 cannons

                What does the airplane and the stationary system have to do with it? And I think one barrel would be enough, although maybe they work alternately to prevent overheating
            2. StolzSS
              StolzSS 21 March 2014 19: 29
              0
              It will not be possible to leave 100 percent to compensate, in any case, because at sea it is not at the stand ....
            3. tchoni
              tchoni 23 March 2014 18: 43
              +1
              make up for the moments !? What is it like? when shooting - yes, but with a quick turn on the target?
          2. No_more
            No_more 21 March 2014 20: 44
            +6
            Consider the rate of fire and inertia of the system. In the case of the Broadsword, when both guns work synchronously, their moments are mutually compensated, because recoil ripples are absent due to the inertia of the system and turn into a uniform moment.
            Any cannons installed on the IL-2 and all its modifications did not have such a rate of fire and the recoil acted alternately on one side or the other, which caused the aircraft to stray.
            This is the drawback of this system because it lacks automatic loading of missiles and the impossibility of fully independent guidance of missile and cannon weapons. But this is if you find fault.
            1. Pilat2009
              Pilat2009 22 March 2014 14: 05
              0
              Quote: No_more
              lack of automatic rocket loading

              Do launchers vertically, drum type
              1. adept666
                adept666 24 February 2015 16: 10
                +1
                It is proved on the project 1164 Atlant that the drums for air defense are an unpromising direction.
          3. adept666
            adept666 24 February 2015 16: 17
            0
            At Shilka, all the trunks were in almost the same package in the center of mass of the installation.


            Shilka did not have the task of shooting down anti-ship missiles, which have their own flight characteristics when entering the target capture zone (maneuvers, flies at extremely low altitude)
        2. Cher
          Cher 19 June 2014 13: 22
          0
          Do you know at what distance the barrels are aimed at this miracle of "design thought"? So I assure you that in order to effectively hit the target from the cannons, you need to let him in very close, and his bk is very small, most likely it will not be enough for the second.
      2. sivuch
        sivuch 21 March 2014 20: 58
        +1
        Yes, of course, you need to put the AU closer to the optronics. I imagine how useful it is for her
        1. Argon
          Argon 21 March 2014 22: 12
          +2
          Regarding the IL-2M (2xNS-37), the topic was of interest. The question to the experts was why the same guns on the Su-6 (both the M-71 and the AM-42) worked fine, had no shooting restrictions, had practically no effect on the piloting ?
        2. cdrt
          cdrt 22 March 2014 02: 16
          0
          Quote: sivuch
          Yes, of course, you need to put the AU closer to the optronics. I imagine how useful it is for her


          Volcano-Phalanx, Goalkeeper - on them then optronics and radio electronics are removed from the trunks right far, far away
          1. sivuch
            sivuch 22 March 2014 15: 33
            0
            Where is optocoupler on Vulcan?
      3. adept666
        adept666 24 February 2015 16: 15
        0
        This is done in order to increase the area of ​​destruction, and therefore to increase the likelihood of hitting a maneuvering target in one or two volleys. Since the target is mainly an anti-ship missile, which flies like a snake over the crests of waves at a height of 5-10 m, i.e. maneuvers "yaw", so the trunks are spaced horizontally.
  3. saag
    saag 21 March 2014 09: 02
    0
    something flying at speeds above 330 m / s, as I understand it, will become fatal for him?
    1. bif
      bif 21 March 2014 11: 04
      +4
      Quote: saag
      something flying at speeds above 330 m / s, as I understand it, will become fatal for him?

      We read better ... "9M337 missiles are capable of destroying targets flying at a speed of up to 700 m / s. The maximum target speed that cannons can hit is 300 m / s."
      1. cdrt
        cdrt 22 March 2014 02: 19
        0
        Quote: bif
        Quote: saag
        something flying at speeds above 330 m / s, as I understand it, will become fatal for him?

        We read better ... "9M337 missiles are capable of destroying targets flying at a speed of up to 700 m / s. The maximum target speed that cannons can hit is 300 m / s."


        saag meant that they knew the target broke into the near zone, until at a speed above 300 m / s Broadsword no longer knocks it, which is bad of course
  4. promt26
    promt26 21 March 2014 09: 30
    0
    Aesthetics and power! A great thing! Take it.
  5. Boehmop
    Boehmop 21 March 2014 10: 27
    +2
    Old weapons in a new wrapper! See tth P. Veliky and so on.
  6. valday
    valday 21 March 2014 10: 39
    +3
    A good thing, but long developed 20 years ago. It is necessary to move forward; new developments must not be stopped!
  7. Alez
    Alez 21 March 2014 11: 07
    +1
    The maximum speed of the 9M337 rocket is declared at 875 km / h. Error? At this speed, only a helicopter can be shot down, but not a plane.
    1. allexx83
      allexx83 22 March 2014 00: 01
      +4
      875 m / s (meters per second)!
    2. bracket
      bracket 22 March 2014 07: 53
      +2
      really ... back in 1988, I myself hit a target-RS from BM-21, with 12 tracers, imitating aircraft exhaust, from Igla-1 MANPADS ... I had to go on vacation, but the political officer found a brew in kildime)))
  8. indiggo
    indiggo 21 March 2014 12: 29
    +2
    broadsword, not as effective as it seems. but we don’t have others ... everyone is waiting for the shell for the Navy.
    1. Argon
      Argon 21 March 2014 13: 34
      +4
      Dear indiggo, can you give an example of a more effective means of protecting a ship in the near air defense zone? Another thing is that Kortik \ Broadsword are rather complex, multi-level systems, and specialists who must "tune" them are in a greater deficit. Everyone knows that defense enterprises are currently time, are not a source of stability and confidence in the future. There is no, in full, the element base of domestic production. In view of this, certain aspects of the reliability of these complexes appeared, which is more connected with the quality of maintenance than with some kind of constructive flaws.
    2. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 21 March 2014 16: 55
      +3
      Quote: indiggo
      everyone is waiting for the shell

      What is it better? The rate of fire is an order of magnitude lower
      That’s why they switched to the block of trunks, because the old schemes are ineffective. Or do you want to get by with rockets only?
      1. Mihaylo Tishayshiy
        Mihaylo Tishayshiy 22 March 2014 20: 46
        0
        Quote: Pilat2009
        What is it better? The rate of fire is an order of magnitude lower

        Better in the same way, than "Pantsir" is better than "Tunguska" - guidance system, missiles. And the block of barrels for "Pantsir M" is the same - six-barreled (total rate of fire - 10000 high / min).
    3. cdrt
      cdrt 22 March 2014 02: 20
      +1
      Quote: indiggo
      broadsword, not as effective as it seems. but we don’t have others ... everyone is waiting for the shell for the Navy.


      What does it mean no?
      And the duet? Perhaps as ZAK it will be better
  9. greka
    greka 21 March 2014 12: 38
    +1
    And tell us what kind of guidance system such in the final section of the laser, this rocket, who knows?
  10. Sagittarius
    Sagittarius 21 March 2014 12: 56
    +1
    "The maximum speed of the 9M337 rocket is declared at 875 km / h" ???
    This is approximately 250 m / s. Error or inaccuracy?
  11. archi.sailor
    archi.sailor 21 March 2014 13: 34
    +4
    AK-630x2 plus missiles plus a new guidance system - air defense solution for modern ships of the Russian Navy
    1. Cher
      Cher 22 March 2014 09: 52
      +1
      I agree 100%, there are guns, more or less missiles. There are no detection, tracking systems.
  12. Gagarin
    Gagarin 21 March 2014 18: 37
    +4
    They look beautiful. Caterpillars are asked from below, and it will be like in a movie!
  13. Cher
    Cher 21 March 2014 20: 36
    0
    The complex ZAK DB "Broadsword" is bullshit, there are practically no missiles; The "meeting point" of projectiles and targets should be 500m - this is the most effective. There is no radar station, interference for it is exposed at a time or two. The ammunition load is small. IMHO "Dagger" MUCH better.
    PS 1. It’s funny for me to become when they write that the rate of fire is up to 5 thousand. h / min is a fairy tale.
    2. At the moment, AU AK-630-2 (or common people "Duet") is very good from AU
    1. sivuch
      sivuch 21 March 2014 21: 00
      +3
      But about the interference for optronics I would like more detail
      1. Cher
        Cher 22 March 2014 09: 36
        +2
        Yes, even the example of PK-10, the fact is, the helicopter "left" from us, set thermal noise and that's it. True, the specialists later said that this was a flaw and they celebrated for almost a year. The tests took place at the Dagestan RK.
  14. lord
    lord 22 March 2014 05: 14
    0
    750 rounds on one barrel and on the second so much skin it’s not enough at a rapid rate of fire if the coastal complex armor with its own machine guns couldn’t bring down the gun standing still then the pitching on the box will not work
    1. Cher
      Cher 22 March 2014 09: 43
      +1
      almost 630 shots were needed for me to bring down a parachute target on the AK-400M, but the AK-630M b / c has 3000 shots !!!
      1. Yurgens
        Yurgens 23 March 2014 22: 21
        0
        your comment why so?
  15. Hemdall
    Hemdall 22 March 2014 09: 11
    +2
    Quote: Nayhas
    position the trunks away from the center of mass and then fend off the arising moments

    in AK-630x2 "Duet" they didn’t smash the barrels, why?
    and the question: why did the rocket launcher made movable in 2 planes? what are the advantages? Isn’t it easier as in TOR-M2? also in the Shell-C1 missile launcher movable in two planes, is this a fundamental necessity? or tribute to certain traditions?
    1. Cher
      Cher 22 March 2014 09: 46
      0
      Well, why aren't TOPs put on ships?
      1. cahekmosa
        cahekmosa 22 March 2014 12: 21
        +1
        3K95 SAM "Blade"
    2. Mihaylo Tishayshiy
      Mihaylo Tishayshiy 22 March 2014 21: 49
      +1
      Quote: Heymdall
      and the question: why did the rocket launcher made movable in 2 planes? what are the advantages? Isn’t it easier as in TOR-M2? also in the Shell-C1 missile launcher movable in two planes, is this a fundamental necessity? or tribute to certain traditions?

      Compare the performance characteristics of the TOR-M2 and Pantsir-S1 missiles and everything will fall into place:
      The 9M330-2 (TOR-M2) missile is single-stage: length - 2280 mm, body diameter - 230 mm, weight - 159 kg, warhead mass - 14,5 kg, rocket speed - 850 m / s, target speed - up to 700 m / s, defeat in range - from 1,5 to 12 km, in height - from 10 to 6000 m.
      The rocket 57E6E (Pantsir-C1) is two-stage: length - 3200 mm, diameter of 1 stage - 90 mm, 2 stages - 76 mm, weight - 74,5 kg, warhead mass - 20 kg, maximum speed - 1300 m / s, average (at 12 km) - 900 m / s, the speed of the target hit - up to 1000 m / s, the defeat in range - from 1 to 20 km, in height - from 5 to 15000 m.
      With a mobile installation in 2 planes, there is no need to "load" the rocket with an additional control system to turn the rocket on a course, which can significantly improve its performance characteristics.
      1. tchoni
        tchoni 23 March 2014 19: 24
        0
        maybe we don’t load the rocket (although the autopil of putting the course on track is pretty simple and not cumbersome in principle), but the installation is archi complicated and terribly cumbersome, both in terms of size and weight.
  16. Massik
    Massik 22 March 2014 22: 03
    0
    1500 shells at a rate of 10000 rpm is of course a lot, only 10 rounds of 1 second and the shops are empty ...
    1. Yurgens
      Yurgens 23 March 2014 22: 19
      0
      probably there are cutoffs)
  17. xomaNN
    xomaNN 23 March 2014 14: 36
    0
    Combat SAM am And it seems not very bulky. It’s possible for them to upgrade early ship designs.
  18. Yurgens
    Yurgens 23 March 2014 22: 18
    0
    all such specialists) why don't they take you to kb?
  19. gregor6549
    gregor6549 24 March 2014 03: 04
    +5
    Of course, this "fool" looks impressive, but .... an attempt to cross a hedgehog with a snake and in one bottle led to the creation of a very cumbersome and complex system, the efficiency and reliability of which is a big question. For example, to control this fool in azimuth and elevation with the required speed, very complex synchronous-tracking power drives (SSP) are needed. Further. Placing missiles in containers excludes the possibility of their rapid reloading during the reflection of an air attack raid. Considering the average (and very optimistic) consumption of missiles per target of 2-3 pieces, this system will remain without missiles for several minutes. In this regard, more versatile vertical launch missiles look much more attractive, which, moreover, can be used not only for missiles, but also for other types of missiles. I no longer mention the possibility of simultaneous firing at targets located at different angles in azimuth and elevation, while in a Broadsword-type system, this possibility does not exist. And the last one. When using spaced weapons systems, the overall combat stability of the ship's air defense is much higher, because The probability of destruction of all elements of weapons in such systems is 30-40 percent lower than in combined ones. In general, the Broadsword system was a typical child of the USSR defense industry complex, when the ideas used to create successful at that time samples of weapons for the country's military air defense or air defense were also tried to be used on ships without particularly thinking about the expediency of such an approach. And time was always running out. Therefore, they "sculpted from what was"
  20. Fil9i
    Fil9i 25 March 2014 23: 11
    +1
    Good day to all!
    I was interested in the polemic here about the effectiveness of using the ZARK "broadsword" "DUET" and the like on light ships, as well as the thoughts of some users about the installation of modernized AK and RK.
    ... As a commander of the warhead 2 (retired) who served on the 1241 type MRK Lightning and missile boats 205 "tarantula" I can explain why they put this and not this.
    But before talking about installing this or that type of ZARK, you need to understand for yourself what function the ship has, what its displacement, in what formations the ship will serve, and much more ...
    Now about anti-aircraft weapons.
    It is worth noting that on Russian and earlier Soviet ships and boats were installed mainly to protect the short radius of the "sky" AK630m and on boats AK230. In conjunction with the MP104, it was the most effective remedy for low-flying aircraft and missiles. (Because of the MP104, which caught the target long before it entered the affected area and accompanied it to this zone.
    Currently, the use of combined systems is justified by improving the detection and tracking of low-flying targets (the use of antennas with phased elements), as well as a qualitative update of the anti-missile fleet.
    It makes no sense to install a powerful air defense system on a light ship, since by focusing on the effectiveness of air defense we lose in the effectiveness of the fight against DSS and anti-submarine defense. After all, you must admit that there is not enough space to stuff the ship with all the effective ones, and you need to understand that the cost of one " PALASH "is half or even a quarter of the cost of Shells and TORs.
    If a ship is classified for single navigation in distant seas, then for such a ship a full range of long-range and near-range antiaircraft weapons is installed, and if it navigates inland seas, it is easier and more efficient to use other appropriate military or conflict situations means of detection and destruction of enemy aircraft.
  21. Yurgens
    Yurgens 26 March 2014 21: 02
    0
    In my opinion, a sober decision to combine cannon and missile weapons, the unification of radars does not require separation separately for guns and separate missiles, everything is logical.
  22. Roman 57 rus
    Roman 57 rus 30 March 2014 23: 42
    0
    Quote: Pilat2009
    Quote: Nexus 6
    that firing from an IL-2 airplane from NS-37 cannons

    What does the airplane and the stationary system have to do with it? And I think one barrel would be enough, although maybe they work alternately to prevent overheating

    Quote: Pilat2009
    Quote: Nexus 6
    that firing from an IL-2 airplane from NS-37 cannons

    What does the airplane and the stationary system have to do with it? And I think one barrel would be enough, although maybe they work alternately to prevent overheating

    The second volley is important here, i.e. kg \ with the more kg the better ...
  23. Roman 57 rus
    Roman 57 rus 30 March 2014 23: 43
    0
    Quote: Pilat2009
    Quote: Nexus 6
    that firing from an IL-2 airplane from NS-37 cannons

    What does the airplane and the stationary system have to do with it? And I think one barrel would be enough, although maybe they work alternately to prevent overheating

    Quote: Pilat2009
    Quote: Nexus 6
    that firing from an IL-2 airplane from NS-37 cannons

    What does the airplane and the stationary system have to do with it? And I think one barrel would be enough, although maybe they work alternately to prevent overheating

    The second volley is important here, i.e. kg \ with the more kg the better ...
  24. snc
    snc April 7 2014 10: 24
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    About the Shell and Thor. Read the characteristics carefully, the second stage of the Shell rocket does not have an engine, in fact it is a ballistic projectile with wings, so the probability of hitting an actively maneuvering target at ranges close to maximum falls to 0.5. But the rocket is cheap.
  25. marder4
    marder4 24 May 2014 13: 27
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    the ability to work both in automatic and in semi-automatic mode is certainly convenient ...