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Started a program to create a promising military transport aircraft

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Russian aviation industry began work on a new military transport aircraft. The project has not yet received an exact name and the work is indicated by analogy with other new developments - “Advanced Aviation Complex for Transport Aviation” (PAK TA). Details of the project have not yet been announced.



IL-476 to MAX-2013


The existence of a new program was reported by the ITAR-TASS news agency with reference to the general director and general designer of the Aviation Complex named after S.V. Ilyushin V.V. Livanova. According to the head of the aircraft building organization, at present, the new project is of a particularly promising character and is being created with a reserve for the distant future. It will take a lot of time to develop a new transport plane - it will appear no earlier than the end of the twenties.

Now the staff of the Aviation Complex. Ilyushin and several related organizations are studying the possible appearance of the aircraft PAK TA. Not so long ago, at the Central Aero-Hydrodynamic Institute (Zhukovsky), the first studies of models of a promising aircraft in a wind tunnel were carried out, showing the features of various proposals. In the near future, TsAGI specialists will continue to study various proposals and determine the appearance of the military transport aircraft of the future. Myasishchev OKB is also engaged in research projects on the new project.

Requirements for a promising transport aircraft have not yet been determined and are unlikely to appear in the near future. Over the next few years, specialists will study the various features of advanced aviation systems and the specifics of their use. In addition, before determining the requirements of aircraft manufacturers intend to consult potential customers. The Russian Ministry of Defense is considered as the main buyer of PAK TA aircraft. Apparently, in the future, the new aircraft can be offered to commercial structures and foreign military.

It should be noted that the specialists of the Aviation Complex named. Ilyushin and related organizations have enough time to carry out all the necessary scientific and design work. Active work on the project PAK TA should begin no earlier than the next decade. The exact timing of the completion of the project, for obvious reasons, has not yet been named.

While the PAK TA project is at its earliest stages, domestic aircraft manufacturers are engaged in other works. Thus, the construction of the Il-76MD-90А military transport aircraft continues. In the autumn of 2014, the United Aircraft Building Corporation received an order for 39 of such machines with a total value of 140 billion rubles. According to V. Livanov, this year the Ulyanovsk Aviation Plant “Aviastar-SP” will transfer one or two new types of aircraft to the customer. Next year, the military will again receive two new aircraft.

As follows from the available information, the Il-76MD-90А military transport aircraft in the coming years will have to replace part of the outdated IL-76 aircraft of previous modifications. In addition, based on it, a tanker aircraft and a radar detection and control aircraft can be created. There is reason to believe that the IL-76MD-90А aircraft in the future will be able to become the main transport vehicle of the domestic air force, and then it will be replaced by the technology developed in the framework of the PAK TA program.

It should be noted that the further improvement of the Il-76 is an ambiguous and controversial way of developing military transport aviation. That is why now we should start work on a new transport aircraft, the characteristics of which will make it possible to use it over the next few decades.

The main requirement for the PAK TA aircraft will apparently be determined in the course of consulting the developers with the main customer, the Russian Ministry of Defense. The loading capacity and the volume of the cargo compartment of the new aircraft should be determined in accordance with the role that will be assigned to the vehicle in the troops, as well as taking into account the characteristics of the equipment and weapons to be transported. Recent trends in the development of domestic land technology suggest that the carrying capacity of a promising transport aircraft and the dimensions of its cargo compartment will be approximately equal to the corresponding characteristics of the latest modifications available on the IL-76 or will slightly exceed them.

Numerous studies and tests may show the correctness of one or another proposal, but it is hardly worth waiting for the PAK TA aircraft to look much different from modern technology of a similar purpose. Apparently, in terms of its aerodynamic appearance, a promising military transport aircraft will resemble the current machines of this class: a high-placed wing with nacelles, a wide cylindrical fuselage with a bulky cargo cabin and a developed tail unit. It is unlikely that PAK TA will be executed, for example, according to the promising, but too bold and ambiguous scheme of the “flying wing”.

The flight characteristics of a prospective transport aircraft will be directly related to the engines used. Creating a project that can interest not only domestic but also foreign customers, will require to take into account the noise and efficiency of the engines used. For obvious reasons, in the coming years it will not be possible to speak with confidence not only about the approximate characteristics, but even about the type of engines planned for use.

The appearance of a new military transport aircraft, not earlier than the second half of the twenties, directly speaks of its purpose. By this time, the existing IL-76 machines of various modifications will have developed their life and will need to be replaced. Thus, the new PAK TA will have to solve a difficult task: to preserve and increase the potential of military transport aviation. When developing requirements for a promising aircraft, this feature should also be taken into account.

Work on the PAK TA program will continue over the next 10-15 years, which is why it is extremely difficult to imagine what exactly the new military transport aircraft will be like. Nevertheless, research on a new topic has already begun and over the next few years should give the first result. So far, the situation allows to make only one plausible forecast: the stated timeline for the project is such that it is in reserve with the SV Aviation Complex. Ilyushin has enough time to carry out all the necessary work.


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  1. StrateG
    StrateG 21 March 2014 08: 06
    +13
    PAK-FA, PAK-YES, now PAK-TA ... a-eee, accelerate slowly!
    1. svp67
      svp67 21 March 2014 08: 40
      +6
      Quote: StrateG
      PAK-FA, PAK-YES, now PAK-TA ... a-eee, accelerate slowly!

      This is good, but the planes are needed "yesterday ...", so we urgently need to pull over and start producing the An70 as soon as circumstances allow, and they most likely will soon allow it ...
      1. cdrt
        cdrt 22 March 2014 01: 04
        0
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: StrateG
        PAK-FA, PAK-YES, now PAK-TA ... a-eee, accelerate slowly!

        This is good, but the planes are needed "yesterday ...", so we urgently need to pull over and start producing the An70 as soon as circumstances allow, and they most likely will soon allow it ...


        It is touched by hysterical screams that all weapons were needed yesterday. What for? Yesterday (before the Crimea), they seemed to have dealt with all the existing threats.
        It will slowly upgrade the Il-76 fleet. An old man, yes his own, reliable.
        Then in 15 years they will finally create an analogue of the S-17. What will be right and good.
        It’s really not worth talking about overclocking here - the design of heavy military vehicles is being re-mastered
    2. Deniska
      Deniska 21 March 2014 10: 48
      0
      Sorry of course, but soon there will be PAH TA;)))
    3. Johnagle
      Johnagle 21 March 2014 22: 24
      +1
      with slide rules, bradis tables, on Kuhlmanns and tracing papers, airplanes were created faster ...
      1. orsker
        orsker 21 March 2014 23: 49
        +1
        Motivated better ...
    4. Containers
      Containers 22 March 2014 03: 17
      0
      It is unclear what they can come up with better than the same (4) 76th (and its modifications) or An-70 (I really want to finally launch the production of this handsome one). For the tasks of the VTA, aircraft are quite sufficient in the foreseeable future.
      Is that a completely Russian analogue of the An-70 ...
  2. Smiles to you
    Smiles to you 21 March 2014 08: 07
    +1
    Work on the PAK TA program will continue over the next 10-15 years,
    Dates, not small ... I think we will survive. Only chur Chinese, do not show or say anything ... bully
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 21 March 2014 08: 51
      -1
      Quote: Smiles at you
      Dates, not small ... I think we will survive. Only chur Chinese, do not show or say anything ...

      It sounds very stupid against the background of the Xian Y-20 which in its parameters surpasses the IL-476. Do not flatter yourself, in the field of BTA we are behind the whole world ...

      1. PROXOR
        PROXOR 21 March 2014 10: 07
        +4
        Quote: Nayhas
        It sounds very stupid against the background of the Xian Y-20 which in its parameters surpasses the IL-476. Do not flatter yourself, in the field of BTA we are behind the whole world ...

        IL-76 I agree, but not the 476th. How can he surpass our 476 if he is engine driven from the 76th. You yourself understand what you are writing. And what the Chinese have written in the anatomy of technology is written with a pitchfork on water. I remind you that at one time I reported that their copy of the Su-30 is better than the Russian one. And who believed that?
        1. inkass_98
          inkass_98 21 March 2014 10: 48
          +1
          Quote: PROXOR
          If it’s engine with 76go.

          Yes, with the naked eye it is clear that this is a modified clone of IL-76. Favorite Chinese amusement - stolen (jointly developed), a couple of parts changed - that's all, his own car.
          1. PROXOR
            PROXOR 21 March 2014 10: 54
            +1
            Yes, there is generally a hodgepodge. A-400 cabin, middle part of the an-70, tail and IL-76 engines. It can’t be any better. Aircraft he is born as a whole, blown in a wind tunnel. And if ours in the design of 476 left everything as before in the fuselage, then it is optimal in this form. Moreover, the 476e is not a modernizable machine, namely it is built from scratch. The only thing that was changed in the 476th fuselage was the stern shooter. But the cabin will obviously be returned when refueling on the basis of 476th will be done.
            1. Nayhas
              Nayhas 21 March 2014 13: 00
              +2
              Quote: PROXOR
              Yes, there is generally a hodgepodge. A-400 cabin, middle part of the an-70, tail and IL-76 engines

              According to analysts, this product is a composite hodgepodge of IL-76 and C-17. As the Chinese themselves say, the Antonov Design Bureau helped, designed the wing, but it seems not only.
              Quote: PROXOR
              And if ours in the design of 476 left everything as before in the fuselage, then it is optimal in this form.

              The IL-76 has a narrow cargo compartment, which limits the dimensions of the cargo carried. On the Xian Y-20, judging by the dimensions, the parameters of the cabin are similar to the C-17, i.e. within 5m. in width, 4.5m. height and about 25m. in length.
              Cargo compartment IL-76

              Cargo compartment S-17
              1. edeligor
                edeligor 24 March 2014 20: 01
                0
                I’ll ask you not to forget about the possibility of take-off from unequipped airfields. For BTA, this is a decisive factor.
          2. StolzSS
            StolzSS 21 March 2014 19: 06
            +4
            They didn’t steal anything Ukrainian engineers designed together with the Chinese, this can just be considered a Chinese development based on the Soviet ideology of a transport aircraft for the Airborne Forces. And they have engines with silt 76, but that’s because they don’t have their own engines, and besides these they don’t sell to them ...
        2. Nayhas
          Nayhas 21 March 2014 12: 23
          +4
          Quote: PROXOR
          How can he surpass our 476 if he is engine driven from the 76th. You yourself understand what you are writing.

          Engines are the main parameter of the MTC? Can we recall what is the main for the military-technical cooperation?
        3. VAF
          VAF 21 March 2014 16: 48
          +4
          Quote: PROXOR
          How can he surpass our 476 if he is engine driven from the 76th.


          Silently! soldier Or do you think that the engine for a BTA airplane is EVERYTHING wink
          1. Mairos
            Mairos 21 March 2014 17: 11
            0
            This is VERY much! It's range-payload-economy
            1. Nayhas
              Nayhas 21 March 2014 19: 58
              +2
              Quote: Mairos
              This is VERY much! It's range-payload-economy

              This is undoubtedly important, but the most important thing for which the Military Transport Aviation is needed is the transportation of military equipment. How many T-90 tanks will fit in the Il-76/476? Not a single one, because the width of the T-90 is 3780mm, and the width of the cargo compartment of the Il-76/476 is only 3450mm. Will their carnets be "Bulgarian"?
              And here is what the third Globmaster carries inside himself:

              1. propolsky
                propolsky 21 March 2014 23: 46
                +1
                Globmaster and IL-76 (476) are different class cars, Globmaster is closer to An-124. And the IL-76 was created under the Airborne Forces and their full-time weapons.
          2. alex56
            alex56 21 March 2014 19: 38
            +2
            Is it possible, please, in more detail about the superiority of the "Chinese"? I want to figure it out repeat
            1. Nayhas
              Nayhas 21 March 2014 20: 07
              +3
              Quote: alex56
              Is it possible, please, in more detail about the superiority of the "Chinese"? I want to figure it out repeat

              Sorry for leaving unanswered, see above.
        4. cherkas.oe
          cherkas.oe 26 March 2014 02: 02
          0
          Quote: PROXOR
          You yourself understand what you write

          DO NOT worry about it, it’s a pi-nd-do-sovskiy lad only mows under his own. It’s been blinking here for a long time;
      2. Klibanophoros
        Klibanophoros 21 March 2014 10: 53
        +1
        Yah? Are they really behind? There are hardly any planes comparable to the Antonov and Ilyushin design bureaus. Mriya has not yet been surpassed by anyone. All that is needed is the will to revive aviation. The material base and people for this are.
        1. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 21 March 2014 13: 17
          +2
          Quote: Klibanophoros
          Mriya has not yet been surpassed by anyone.

          “Ruslana” has not been surpassed either. Only here is the Antonov firm in Ukraine. The Americans still have to work up to the level of An-124 and An-225. With what restrictions does the C-5B "Galaxy", the miracle of American transport aviation, fly?
          1. VAF
            VAF 21 March 2014 16: 55
            +4
            Quote: saturn.mmm
            With what restrictions does the Galaxy C-5B fly, the miracle of American transport aviation?


            They have long had a Lockheed C-5M Super Galaxy wink these are times that easily fly through us and through the North Pole to Afghanistan recourse (Take-off from Dover Aviation Base in Delaware, then crosses Canada, the Arctic Ocean (including the North Pole), Russia, Kazakhstan and lands at Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan.).
            Everything about everything 15 hours wink

            1. typhoon7
              typhoon7 21 March 2014 17: 27
              +3
              Greetings vaf. The flight range also depends on how much cargo it will fly. The An-124 may not fly at such distances, but unlike this bird, it is in great demand on the international market, the cargo compartment is larger and it takes more. Upgrading will be even cooler.
        2. typhoon7
          typhoon7 21 March 2014 17: 12
          +1
          I agree. At BTA, we are not far behind, much has been drowned out in us, but not lost. I think that in connection with recent events, the country's leadership will pay special attention to the full revival of the aviation industry. It is also worth noting that we have the An-124, to which the Chinese are not only far away and it is in great demand in the international transport aviation market and is in service with the BTA of Russia.
      3. fleks
        fleks 21 March 2014 11: 23
        +1
        I wonder what this Chinese is superior to silt if it flies on our engines and many nodes are lapped, stolen from il76?
      4. Voenruk
        Voenruk 21 March 2014 14: 15
        +1
        Don't lag behind! It's just that everything has remained abroad! Antonov (AN) in Ukraine. At least take the Mriya plane, we have something to answer. All in our hands.
      5. STALGRAD76
        STALGRAD76 21 March 2014 16: 42
        -1
        How can a copy exceed the original ??
      6. edeligor
        edeligor 24 March 2014 19: 58
        0
        Quote: Nayhas
        It sounds very stupid against the background of the Xian Y-20 which in its parameters surpasses the IL-476. Do not flatter yourself, in the field of BTA we are behind the whole world ...

        An interesting statement. Facts in the studio! Our "partners" Ruslan cannot repeat, and your statement seems pejorative. Sincerely.
  3. Smiles to you
    Smiles to you 21 March 2014 08: 09
    +5
    Quote: StrateG
    PAK-FA, PAK-YES, now PAK-TA ... a-eee, accelerate slowly!

    Well, another option will send everyone, PAK-ON ... lol
  4. alex56
    alex56 21 March 2014 08: 11
    +4
    Good news))) good
    But it’s a pity that nothing will come of the An-70 along the way ((We’ll have to do everything ourselves from scratch.
  5. Metal
    Metal 21 March 2014 08: 24
    0
    Thank God! Industry locomotive rushing forward. Accelerates slowly, but rushes quickly. Now we will rearm the army, fight off Western attacks, and then we will deal with internal problems. soldier
  6. rugor
    rugor 21 March 2014 08: 30
    +6
    Quote: alex56
    Good news))) good
    But it’s a pity that nothing will come of the An-70 along the way ((We’ll have to do everything ourselves from scratch.


    Can buy all the design documentation and technology at a reasonable price? In Ukraine, this is now easy. And specialists themselves will catch up from the same Ukraine.
    1. alex56
      alex56 21 March 2014 08: 37
      +2
      Buy that, I think we do not mind, but will they sell it? The current one in Kiev (as well as, in my opinion, the Antonov Design Bureau) is guided by the principle: "not to yourself, not to people."
      Although, of course, maybe I'm wrong)) And therefore I would like to see here the opinion of more knowledgeable people) Are there any prospects for the An-70?
      1. PROXOR
        PROXOR 21 March 2014 10: 08
        +2
        Quote: alex56
        Can buy all the design documentation and technology at a reasonable price? In Ukraine, this is now easy. And specialists themselves will catch up from the same Ukraine.

        What are you holding on to the An-70? What can the An-70 do that the 476th cannot? The only thing he can do is sit on the field instead of a concrete strip. But the 476th takes more cargo, luckier. In production, we have mastered. An-70 is an additional machine designed to replace for example the AN-12 and An-24 but no more.
        1. alex56
          alex56 21 March 2014 10: 14
          +2
          At least, if, of course, I’m not mistaken, because Ana has less requirements for the runway (it can land on the ground and run shorter).
          1. PROXOR
            PROXOR 21 March 2014 10: 36
            +1
            Quote: alex56
            At least, if, of course, I’m not mistaken, because Ana has less requirements for the runway (it can land on the ground and run shorter).

            So that is all. Nothing else can be added to the pluses.
        2. saag
          saag 21 March 2014 10: 48
          +3
          So not everywhere is the 476th needed, again the 70th more cargo hatch
          1. PROXOR
            PROXOR 21 March 2014 10: 56
            +2
            Quote: saag
            So not everywhere is the 476th needed, again the 70th more cargo hatch

            In any case, the An-70 is an additional car but not the main one. Like the An-124 that they want to start collecting from us.
            1. saag
              saag 21 March 2014 11: 07
              +2
              So they are looking for a replacement An-12
        3. Shteffan
          Shteffan 21 March 2014 11: 09
          +7
          An-70 - it can transport all major types of weapons and military equipment. To do this, he has a corresponding large cabin to transport equipment or 300 personnel. And the second criterion is a short, unpaved airfield. An-70 is able to land on a short unpaved runway 600-800 meters. These tasks IL-76 can not solve. Therefore, he is not a competitor to him. I'm not talking about things like fuel consumption. On the Il-76, the hourly consumption is about 8 tons, and on the An-70 it is only 4,4 tons per hour. These aircraft are absolutely not competitors, ”said Kiva.
          1. PROXOR
            PROXOR 21 March 2014 11: 15
            +2
            Quote: Steffan
            n-70 - it can transport all major types of weapons and military equipment. To do this, he has a corresponding large cabin to transport equipment or 300 personnel. And the second criterion is a short, unpaved airfield. An-70 is able to land on a short unpaved runway 600-800 meters. These tasks IL-76 can not solve. Therefore, he is not a competitor to him. I'm not talking about things like fuel consumption. On the Il-76, the hourly consumption is about 8 tons, and on the An-70 it is only 4,4 tons per hour. These aircraft are absolutely not competitors, ”said Kiva.

            It is extremely incorrect to compare the IL-76 and An-70 for fuel consumption. It will be more correct to compare 476 and 70ku. Again, the 476th can take more cargo and landing. The only plus 70s is that it is smaller and can take off from primers. Although I really do not understand where and why to put him in such bands.
        4. Field
          Field 21 March 2014 11: 55
          +2
          A shorter take-off run, less fuel eats, an unpaved strip can land on the ground with a load of 20 t - 700 m (the ground is generally a "feature" of ANov), a smaller dispersion of the landing force, 300 people are declared with two decks, with a load of 47 t 3, s with a load of 000 t 20 6
          IL-76MD-90A 20 tons for 8500 and 60 tons for 5000 km of personnel / when installing the second deck 145/225;
          Takeoff run, m 1540
          Required take-off distance at BVPP, m 1700
          Mileage length using reverse engine thrust, m 960
          I don't mean that we urgently need to change the "smile" on the AN70, it's just that the AN is also a great car, and a full load (by weight) does not happen so often.
  7. saag
    saag 21 March 2014 08: 49
    +4
    An-70 is already a ready-made flight product, it is only necessary to transfer it into ownership, and not to reinvent the wheel
  8. Nayhas
    Nayhas 21 March 2014 09: 00
    +7
    Recent trends in the development of domestic land equipment suggest that the carrying capacity of a promising transport aircraft and the dimensions of its cargo compartment will be approximately equal to the corresponding characteristics of the latest IL-76 modifications

    The parameters of the cargo compartment of the IL-76/476 have long been inadequate and it makes absolutely no sense to make a new military technical transport vehicle in the same dimensions.
    Creating a project that can interest not only domestic but also foreign customers

    Yeah, and who will he be interested in? Hindus that stocked the C-17? Or the Chinese, who already experience the Xian Y-20? By the time PAK-TA flies into the air, the Chinese with their Y-20 will fill the BTA market ...
    1. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 21 March 2014 13: 34
      +1
      Quote: Nayhas
      The parameters of the cargo compartment of the IL-76/476 have long been inadequate and it makes absolutely no sense to make a new military technical transport vehicle in the same dimensions.

      I totally agree. If PAK TA is going to be done as a modernization of the IL-476, then it is better to bring the An-70 (an almost ready aircraft) and put it in series, only of course with Ukraine. Antonovtsev can probably be pulled if desired at this time. At the same time, the answer to the economic sanctions of the West will be.
    2. typhoon7
      typhoon7 21 March 2014 17: 37
      +2
      This is certainly true, but the article seems to say that there is no appearance or characteristics yet. The article came out too soon; in five years, I think, the requirements will be determined.
  9. Peacemaker
    Peacemaker 21 March 2014 12: 18
    +3
    It is unlikely that PAK TA will be executed, for example, according to the promising, but too bold and ambiguous “flying wing” scheme.
    It's a pity. Development by professor Schukina ECIP is the future of aviation, the traditional circuit has already exhausted itself. Schukin died of a heart attack of bureaucratic grumbling of officials and the lobby. Now, soon we will fly on Boeing created on his project
  10. Peacemaker
    Peacemaker 21 March 2014 12: 29
    0
    http://gvtm.ru/letatelnyy_apparat_ekip http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%DD%CA%C8%CF этот проект превосходит все имеющееся по экономичности, вместимости и маневренности. Для него не надо строить спец аэродромов. Если наши не одумаются весь мир бедет летать на летающих крыльях Щукина под маркой боинга или айрбаса...
  11. Peacemaker
    Peacemaker 21 March 2014 12: 33
    0
    http://gvtm.ru /letatelnyy_apparat_ekip http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/ %DD%CA%C8%CF этот проект превосходит все имеющееся по экономичности, вместимости и маневренности. Для него не надо строить спец аэродромов. Если наши не одумаются весь мир бедет летать на летающих крыльях Щукина под маркой боинга или айрбаса...
  12. Peacemaker
    Peacemaker 21 March 2014 12: 39
    -1
    Here he is handsome! but for some reason the images do not load .. here is the link to the image: http://gvtm.ru/d/180104/d/403990001_6.jpg
  13. Voenruk
    Voenruk 21 March 2014 14: 07
    0
    This is where the Antonov (AN) company would be attracted, what prospects would open up for Ukraine and Russia. No policy of their own, everyone fell under the West.
  14. MolGro
    MolGro 21 March 2014 16: 50
    +1
    The concept of this aircraft or art on the topic))
    Who thinks!
    But in fact, until we see in iron, we don’t know how it looks!
    1. dmitrij.blyuz
      dmitrij.blyuz 21 March 2014 22: 08
      0
      We wait, wait, wait! The main thing is that Poghosyan and Manturov are not disturbed, as with PAK-YES! Already the glasses in your hand are trembling! Ah, WE CAN! Come on, guys! Work! We must! You know how! Do it !!! hi
    2. samoletil18
      samoletil18 23 March 2014 08: 07
      0
      What's this? Reincarnating a biplane? Such a "handsome man" must be forced, forced, persuaded to produce.
  15. Russkiy53
    Russkiy53 21 March 2014 17: 35
    0
    The requirements are simple: transportation to a company of soldiers, or platoon with equipment; automatic layered defense systems of the liner; electronic warfare system for radar disguise / suppression of air defense; complex coordination / interaction with escort vehicles with the possibility of target designation, up to direct control of escort weapon systems .. . miscellaneous trifles-fixing equipment for immediate exit when landing a transport carrier without hemorrhoids with slinging; if possible, inconspicuous for the radar. something like that :). but this is the view of the infantry :)
  16. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 21 March 2014 22: 10
    +1
    Quote: MolGro
    The concept of this aircraft or art on the topic))
    Who thinks!
    But in fact, until we see in iron, we don’t know how it looks!

    Well, what’s in the collage is absolutely hopeless. Aerodynamics-matryoshka is crying!
  17. Shield
    Shield 21 March 2014 22: 56
    0
    We do not have normal "trucks". They fucked everything up.
  18. propolsky
    propolsky 22 March 2014 00: 07
    +2
    In the Military Transport Aviation, we are inferior for a long time and a lot. It is necessary to create something very sophisticated so that during its creation they again do not end up in the tail. The weak point is the engines with their high fuel consumption and weak electronics, the strong point is aerodynamics. It will not do without new materials to create an airplane: lightweight and durable. But the Il-76 is far from exhausted, to fly and fly, and this also applies to the other BTA aircraft: An-22, An-124 and even An-12. Today we already know their weaknesses and if we can’t eliminate them completely, we can not leverage them.
  19. valokordin
    valokordin 22 March 2014 03: 27
    0
    The foregoing in the article pleases, if only all this does not fall into the hands of Pogosyan, otherwise the end will again be superjet 101.
  20. samoletil18
    samoletil18 22 March 2014 22: 14
    +1
    Now, after the Maidan, the An-70 will definitely be buried. And the Ukrainians themselves. In spite of mom frostbitten ears. More precisely, Bandera.
    Will have to create a fully Russian transport. Fortunately, we got rid of Serdyukov. I am not an aviator, but I understand that any alteration of the fuselage threatens with a change in aerodynamics, a transfer of the center of gravity, etc. But maybe even IL-476 can be made wider?
  21. beifall
    beifall 25 March 2014 15: 30
    -2
    New Russian aircraft .............. for Russians !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Only Russians will take !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Repeat the fate of the dry super jet !!!!!!!!!!
  22. Demon0n
    Demon0n 26 March 2014 23: 25
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    Interesting ... Someone from the KLA and the minobra tried to work out the concept of tactical transport of heavy equipment with vertical take-off and landing (to ensure operational mobility and landing operations)? In the manner of airborne transport helicopters or even convertiplanes (using modern and promising concepts of aircraft building and engine building): flew up, in a couple of seconds (under cover) dropped and flew ... Light connections have been transported and landing in a similar way for a long time, it would not hurt to add heavy equipment for versatility ...
    Who knows ... With the elaboration / implementation of the concept, the prospect of development of the armed forces will become clear (more precisely, the tactics and requirements for equipping the equipment will change)? What new technologies might be needed?
  23. Khayovets
    Khayovets April 11 2014 14: 39
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    But why do the IL-76, and not the An-124, do modernization? After all, it is more modern.
  24. mkpda
    mkpda April 21 2014 17: 09
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    In fact, there is still a pre-project IL-106, which can go as the basis for PAK TA.
  25. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 April 27 2014 18: 01
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    I think it would be more correct for the state to talk about the creation of a "line" of aircraft for the tasks of military aviation, small (such as AN-26 and AN-74), medium (AN-70, IL-76) and heavy (IPA AN-124) and preferably domestic production to the last rivet.
    There is always time ... you need the will and will of leadership.