Commander of the Navy spoke about the future of the submarine fleet

Admiral V. Chirkov spoke about the further development of the national underwater fleet. The admiral told about the current submarine construction programs, and also touched on the creation of promising equipment for the navy.

According to V. Chirkov, the domestic defense industry is currently working to create an air-independent power plant (VNEU) for promising non-nuclear submarines. Businesses in the project promise to complete their part of the work in 2015-16. Thus, over the next few years, the first submarine with a VNEU will appear in the Russian Navy. When the new power plant is ready, it will be installed on a new diesel-electric submarine, which is planned to be built in accordance with the updated 677 "Lada" project. Construction of this submarine is scheduled for completion in 2016-17.

Simultaneously with the development of an air-independent power plant, the creation of a new project of non-nuclear submarines is underway. In the future, it is these submarines that should become the carrier of a promising VNEU. According to Admiral Chirkov, the new project received the designation "Kalina". Prior to the construction of the Kalina submarines, it is planned to test an experimental VNEU, for which a submarine of the previous 677 Lada project will be used. After refinement, the promising system will be suitable for installation on new non-nuclear submarines.

The appearance of an air-independent power plant will allow promising non-nuclear submarines to outperform existing diesel-electric submarines in their characteristics. As is clear from the name of a promising power installation, the submarine equipped with it does not need regular ascent to use atmospheric air and recharge the batteries. Thanks to this, a submarine with a VNEU can be under water for a longer time. According to reports, the domestic VNEU that uses hydrogen, will receive it through the processing of diesel fuel.

Submarines "Kalina" and an air-independent power plant for them are still at the design stage. At the same time, the domestic defense industry is working in another program related to the submarine fleet. Commander of the Navy V. Chirkov recalled the construction of new diesel-electric submarines of the 636.3 Varshavyanka project. Over the next few years, the Black Sea Fleet will receive six such ships.

Six new submarines will make it possible to create a full-fledged compound of constant readiness in the Black Sea Fleet. Using new submarines, Black Sea sailors will be able to solve a wide range of tasks in their area of ​​responsibility. Submarines "Varshavyanka" will be able to operate in conjunction with surface ships or sea aviationthanks to which the Black Sea Fleet will increase its capabilities in operations in the Mediterranean Sea.

According to Admiral Chirkov, the renewal of the Black Sea Fleet is long overdue, and now this unit of the Russian Navy will be able to work effectively and ensure national security in its entire area of ​​responsibility - from the Black Sea to the Mediterranean.

Speaking about the prospects of the domestic submarine fleet, Admiral Chirkov touched on the topic of the strategy for its use. In addition to the naval component of the nuclear triad, the navy intends to use the so-called. strategic non-nuclear deterrence. The group, which will receive similar tasks, should include both nuclear and diesel-electric submarines with high-precision rocket armament. In addition, surface ships will also perform non-nuclear deterrence tasks.

Among others, the group of strategic non-nuclear deterrence should include new multi-purpose nuclear submarines of the 885 Ash project. The lead ship of the Severodvinsk project several months ago was put into trial operation and in the near future should become a full-fledged combat unit of the Navy. Until the end of this decade, a total of eight submarines "Ash" will be built. The armament of these submarines will allow you to attack targets at distances up to 500 kilometers, which accordingly affects their combat potential.

In addition, for strategic non-nuclear deterrence will be used boats project 636.3 "Varshavyanka" and the projected "Kalina". Thus, over the next few years, the navy of Russia should receive new tools to perform various strategic tasks.

The commander-in-chief of the Navy spoke about methods of preserving the existing potential of submarine forces. There is a program for upgrading third-generation multipurpose nuclear submarines, which is being implemented, and there are plans to build new submarines of various classes and types. One of the main methods of increasing the potential of submarines, according to Admiral Chirkov, is the upgrade of their avionics with the integration of advanced robotic systems.

Finally, the commander of the navy noted the importance of the submarine fleet for the country's security. In his opinion, an increase in the intensity of the service of submarines should have a direct effect on the security of Russia.


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Comments

[Lyton]

God forbid that all the plans were completed on time, otherwise all this should have been done yesterday.

[Civil]

Lada Kalina ... not very successful names .... I have been designing VNU for 30 years ... and even the Greeks with such a mover have a boat

[lelikas]

Quote: Civil

We have been designing VNU for 30 years ... and even the Greeks with such a mover have a boat

Moreover, the deadlines - like a compass at the North Pole - are either the 14th, the 18th, or the 16th year ...

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Civil

We have been designing VNU for 30 years.

Our press gives a different figure - 20 years. But still a lot. The Americans are following a parallel path. They are also trying to extract hydrogen from Their standard fuel (gasoline). But so far they are lagging behind us. In addition, ours raised the bar 2 times higher than the Germans. Our electrochemical generator is rated at 400 MW. While it gives 70% of the nominal. Therefore, it is being finalized. And the Germans put on their "U-bots" ECHs on cryogenic oxygen and metallized hydrogen with a capacity of 180 MW, and are satisfied.

Quote: Civil

and even the Greeks with such a mover have a boat

Two remarks: The Greeks have 214 German submarines, so they are not in the subject - they are "operators", not developers.
And the second. "Engine" and "mover" are two big differences, as they say in Odessa.
An engine is a power plant for converting chemical (electrical, nuclear, thermal, etc.) energy into kinetic energy for the movement of an object.
A "mover" is a device that converts the energy generated by an engine into the kinetic energy of a moving object. In short: engine - diesel (electric motor), and mover - propeller, water cannon, jet nozzle, etc.
Formally, your phrase is 100% correct, because these submarines have exactly "the same movers".

[sub307]

That's right - "even among the Greeks", about the Germans - finally, we are silent.

[Normman]

Nice infographics from the site "Made by us!"

[mpa945]

A lot of inaccuracies. And as well as that of the commander-in-chief nor gu gu about the surface component.
Or Arly Burke?

[Voronbit]

apparently, modern boreas and ash trees donated speed and depth in favor of the noiseless laminar flow

[saag]

Stirling engine can be mastered

[Boa kaa]

Quote: saag

Stirling engine can be mastered

Science is striving forward, and you are talking about the Stirling engine. We really should get better than the Germans with our ECG, but you do not believe it.

[sub307]

It has already been fully mastered - by the Swedes.

[Ddhal]

We do not stand still and this is the main thing. New ideas always arise in the process.

[Boa kaa]

Quote from rudolf

The already laid hulls will be completed, one experimental boat for VNEU and this is the end of the "series".

Rudolph, hello. Rummaged through the Internet. It turns out that a series of 4 units. "Lada" - experimental, "Kronstadt" - for a lithium-ion battery, "Sevastopol" - with a new VNEU. One more grater.
VNEU was tested on the B-90 "Sarov" in October 2012. Then a message from the media: "Lada" squeezed 70% of the nominal GED (SED-1) under the VNEU. But the navigation complex is not normal. This is for October 12. But already in March 13, all performance characteristics on the "Lada" were confirmed. Therefore, plans have changed: at the KSF - 2 submarines pr 677M, and then until 2020 another 4 submarines (apparently already "Kalina"). "Kronstadt" was planned for the Black Sea Fleet, to feed the fleet and support the Mediterranean OS. They promised VNEU in a separate section ("This is a fuel cell engine with diesel fuel reforming"). With it, the submarine must go under water for more than 25 days, the underwater speed is 21 knots, the autonomy is 45 days. They are currently working on solving the following problems:
- the all-mode main rowing ED - SED-1 has not been brought to mind;
- problems with the SJSC "Lira" with a large quasi-conformal H / A antenna.
The military circulates the thought - put VNEU on pr 877. These are 23 buildings + 6 more in the order. The adaptation period is 1-2 years. Prospect - 40 cases sold abroad. Proms say that 877pr. - yesterday and you need to bet on 677pr. But at the same time, the "childhood disease" of adaptation of the installation to the project will take 5-10 (!) Years. Prospect - "Amur 1650", a tender for 6 buildings for Indians under the program 75-I. The Hindus specifically banned the holding of the tender, waiting for our VNEU, setting conditions that the submarine must be adapted for "Brahmos".
So, not everything is so simple under the moon!

[Boa kaa]

Quote from rudolf

Rubinovskis insulted that the VNEU fleet did not order at all and they did not have TK.

Rudolph, it seems to me that this is true. I haven’t heard anything recently about the military-technical council of the Navy.
Moreover, I heard about this method of obtaining energy while still in the ranks. It will turn out - we will be on horseback. The Germans, of course, are great, but from the hydrodynamic shock, the fittings and connections between the light and strong body will quickly become unusable. And hydrogen is tricky. It diffuses through the metal. Actually, Lyra worries me more. Hydroacoustics is eyes and ears, this is a duel and seconds before a volley and the subsequent evasive maneuver ... This is a battle, this is a war!

[saag]

what’s so in DEPL seized because it’s cheap or familiar?

[Dart2027]

Nuclear submarines are designed for operations in the ocean and in a significant separation from their bases. For the sea zone (Black Sea Fleet, Baltic Fleet) they are really too expensive.

[sub307]

This will already be "NAPL", not "DEPL".

[cdrt]

Quote: saag

what’s so in DEPL seized because it’s cheap or familiar?

Well, it seems like submarines with VNEU are more expensive than submarines in operation, especially when it comes to hydrogen

[Roman 1977]

Over the past 13 years (2000-2013), the following submarines were delivered to the fleet:
2 SSBNs of project 955 "Borey": For Northern Fleet and Pacific Fleet; "Yuri Dolgoruky" was founded in 1996 - commissioned in 2012 (16 years old); "Alexander Nevsky" - founded in 2004 - commissioned in 2013 (9 years). Both boats are in trial operation. On trials, a submarine of a similar project "Vladimir Monomakh", for the Pacific Fleet, has been built since 2006, if it is handed over this year - 8 years.

1 MPLATRK project 885 "Ash" for SF - put into trial operation. Laid down in the 1993 year, delivered to the fleet in the 2013 year (20 years).

"Severodvinsk" will be accepted into the combat composition of the Russian Navy not earlier than the second half of this year due to incomplete tests of hydroacoustics, navigation, electro-mechanical part, missile complex "Caliber", as well as work to reduce noise in order to bring it to parameters installed in the TTZ.

The next boat of the Kazan project is expected in 2015 (laid down in 2009).

1 diesel-electric submarine of project 677 "Lada" "St. Petersburg", while for the BF, transferred to the Northern Fleet for testing, in trial operation. Laid down in 1997, commissioned to the fleet in 2010 (13 years old).

arrival of diesel-electric submarines of project 677 "Saint Petersburg" to the Northern Fleet
The boats were so unsuccessful that in February 2012 of the year the media said that the Navy was abandoning the Lada project, according to the former Navy commander in chief Vysotsky:

... the declared technical characteristics of the submarines of the 677 project are not confirmed by tests of the head submarine "St. Petersburg". “In its current form, Lada, the Russian Navy is not needed. We do not need new “brains” with weapons that would sit on the energy of the Second World War. What for? Who needs this? And her operational properties are the same ...

However, the project was not abandoned and it was decided to complete the construction of 2 diesel-electric submarines of the project: Kronstadt (laid down in 2005) and Sevastopol (laid down in 2006)
After the failure with project 677, they were forced to begin construction of diesel-electric submarines of project 636.6, which is a development of project 877, originally intended for export. The first diesel-electric submarine "Novorossiysk", laid down in 2010, launched on November 28.11.2013, XNUMX, is expected to be delivered to the fleet this summer. In the same year, another diesel-electric submarine of the Rostov-on-Don project is expected.
1 Project 20120 Sarov special-purpose diesel submarine designed for testing new types of weapons and military equipment. Based on the SF. Laid down in 1989, delivered to the fleet in 2008 (19 years old).

1 special purpose nuclear submarine of the 10831 AC-31 project. Based on SF. Laid in the 1990 year, delivered to the fleet in the 2010 year (20 years)

[Leshka]

we need such submarines so that they have at least 100 cruise missiles

[alone]

Quote: Leshka

we need such submarines so that they have at least 100 cruise missiles

Can you imagine the dimensions of such a submarine? 100 Cruise missiles are not matches to fit in one box

[lelikas]

Quote: lonely

Quote: Leshka

we need such submarines so that they have at least 100 cruise missiles

Can you imagine the dimensions of such a submarine? 100 Cruise missiles are not matches to fit in one box

In principle, if you use launching strategists, you can achieve a greater number of missiles, but whether it is necessary.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: lonely

Can you imagine the dimensions of such a submarine?

Sure! This is the former Ohio SSBN, re-equipped for CD carriers.

Quote: lonely

100 Cruise missiles are not matches to fit in one box

And if so try? Maybe it will, eh?

[alone]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

And if so try? Maybe it will, eh?

let's argue logically. From above Roman1977 put a few photos of the new submarines and described in detail how long these boats were made. A lot of time was spent in these boats (well, about the fact that they did not finance the construction for a long time, maybe I'm not aware of this ). And if these submarines were really built in such a time frame, I can imagine how much time it will take to build such submarines with 100 cruise missiles.
All the same, the submarine is not a tugboat, and to be honest, such submarines require large financial expenses. It is still not known how much such a boat can cost. Unlike the Americans, Russia does not just print money.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: lonely

on top Roman1977 put a few photos of the new submarines and described in detail how long these boats were made

Dear Marshal, I admire the ability of Roman. His comments are extremely informative and informative. But sometimes there is not enough analytics and conclusions. Yes, he described how long they were built, but did not say a word WHAT TIME they were built. Under such conditions, other countries would not have built anything at all ...

Quote: lonely

I imagine how much time will be spent on the construction of such submarines with 100 cruise missiles.

Nope, you can’t imagine, because you think that it should be a submarine with 100 launchers as on pr 949A. And if the mines of 941 projects are loaded with 5 CDs built using XX technologies! century? Count: 5x20 = 100! Now imagine Borey with 20 mines (previously there were such thoughts), where each has 5 KRBD type X-101. So, as our colleagues say, "there would be political will!"

Quote: lonely

It is still unknown how much one such boat can cost.

Well, according to conservative estimates, the Lard 40 that way ...

[Boa kaa]

Quote: lonely

And if these submarines were really built in such a time frame, I can imagine how much time it will take to build such submarines with 100 cruise missiles.

The terms are long, but you need to take into account the time in which they were built, with the collapse of the country and production.
Boats are already built. modernization and new missiles based on the technologies of the XX1 century are needed. Then it will be possible to place 5-7 CRBDs of the X-101 type in one mine of Boreya (Ashen).

Quote: lonely

such submarines require large financial expenses. It is still not known how much such a boat can cost

The cost of such a boat is approximately 40 billion rubles. Huge money, it's worth it.

[sub307]

As you can see, they were placed wonderfully and more. And we are our carriers "on pins and needles".

[Saburov]

Here we need to take into account only one thing: that one submarine cannot be in two or more places at the same time, therefore this is the solution, and the USA, as always, has a mess in one place, so they drive their own half-fleet there, so the Russian strategy is, in principle, correct. it is necessary to make new boats and for various purposes, but it is desirable to unify them according to the classes of submarines, then it will be easier to maintain and produce them, and to push lionfish into strategists, it seems to me a crazy idea, since all the noises and ins and outs characteristic of them are known to the Americans than we and resource rem we won’t win ont service either, let the United States go over its fleet, and we will gradually get everything on the shelves, thus making them sweat when more than one submarine leaves the base.

[OST_51RU]

Under the Communists from 1988 to 1991 Of the reductions 667A through modernization made the so-called pears - 667AT. Miraculous ships - carriers of torpedo weapons, cruise missiles and mine loaders. There were 3 of them in the Federation Council. Unlike the 667B, DB, BDR (except for the last two), the 667AT went into cutting, having completely exhausted its resource.

[little man]

And as an option, our remaining 3 Sharks

[cdrt]

Quote: Leshka

we need such submarines so that they have at least 100 cruise missiles

200 or 300, not less than

[patsantre]

Before the start of the construction of the Kalina boats, it is planned to test the experimental VNEU, for which the submarine of the previous project 677 Lada will be used. After refinement, a promising system will be suitable for installation on new non-nuclear submarines.

I hope the underwater "Lada-Kalina" will be better than the "crawling" one ...))

[fregina1]

Need to! At least 4 boats! Some of the missiles with a special warhead (nuclear), some of the usual warheads! And if you remake the "Typhoons" that remain for this option! It's just an imperial cruiser!

[Yarik]

Lelikas Today, 14: 43 ↑ New
Quote: lonely
Quote: Leshka
we need such submarines so that they have at least 100 cruise missiles

Can you imagine the dimensions of such a submarine? 100 Cruise missiles are not matches to fit in one box
In principle, if you use launching strategists, you can achieve a greater number of missiles, but whether it is necessary


He won’t be able to shoot back. They will crash. 100 missiles. Hmm ... I don’t believe it.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Yarik

He won’t be able to shoot back. They will crash. 100 missiles. Hmm ... I don’t believe it.

And what if from a mobile protected RBD? Or from friends from Euro-NATO from just an air defense system? And it is possible on the Asian bases of our START-3 partners! Actually, it should be great if, for the period of the launch of the Kyrgyz Republic, the combat stability of this submarine is ensured.

[Gagarin]

Why such a modest daragoy!
Come on 500, 800!

Quote: Leshka

we need such submarines so that they have at least 100 cruise missiles

[52]

Give me a melt! Good and different!

[sub307]

Better - "uniformly" good and excellent.

[OST_51RU]

Good, reliable - that's good, but different - dubious happiness. The more unified the element base, the easier it is to operate. Himself in the 90s dashing removed condensate pots from "Andromeda", heating batteries from evaporators from "Pears" for his 667BDR. And everything fit wonderfully.

[Zeus]

Map of the presence of surface ships of the 1-2 rank of the Russian Navy in the World Ocean as of March 10.03.2014, XNUMX

[prorab_ak]

There is Lada, and now there will also be Kalina, but are they mocking with the names or something?!?!
So I can imagine how Vova on her in an aqua ride will go from the Baltic to the Black Sea, and behind him three more submarines escorting with FSO officers !!!!

[sub307]

Yellou sabmarin (I can't vouch for the letters) will turn out to be yellow.

[Dezinto]

DEPL with Stirling engines. The use of this engine significantly increases the dwell time of the boat underwater without serious losses in other indicators. An interesting and noteworthy system, but a little more than a dozen such boats were built - these are the Swedish Gotland project, the French Saga, and the Japanese Soryu.

[I think so]

Yes ... weakly weak ... but apparently this is the only thing that the current industry, destroyed by "reforms", is capable of ... it's time to give up ...