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Shoigu asked the leadership of the Crimea to release the commander of the Ukrainian Navy

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Shoigu asked the leadership of the Crimea to release the commander of the Ukrainian Navy



Minister Sergei Shoigu appealed to the leadership of the Crimea with a request to release the detained commander of the Ukrainian Navy, Sergei Haiduk, and not to hinder his departure to the territory of Ukraine. Shoigu noted that Haiduk was forced to carry out the orders of his leadership, obeying the military regulations of his armed forces.

In addition, it became known that Sergei Shoigu discussed with the Acting Minister of Defense of Ukraine Igor Tenyukh measures to reduce tension in the Crimea. The telephone conversation took place at the initiative of the Ukrainian side, reports the Russia 24 channel. Shoigu and Tenyukh agreed to continue working contacts.
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  1. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 20 March 2014 05: 22
    +17
    That's right, there is nothing to be like poor No.
    1. W1950
      W1950 20 March 2014 06: 20
      +2
      Order by order, but to shoot unarmed, here it is necessary to include brains.
      1. cyberhanter
        cyberhanter 20 March 2014 12: 04
        0
        You need to turn on your brains when you break into a military facility. The charter in any country requires the guards to open fire to defeat.
    2. Horde
      Horde 20 March 2014 06: 51
      +2
      Shoigu asked the leadership of the Crimea to release the commander of the Ukrainian Navy

      but the fact that the heyduk gave the order to shoot at Russian troops is this shoigu not taken into account? Well, it’s not right that Shoigu will be substituted ...
      1. Bi_Murza
        Bi_Murza 20 March 2014 07: 20
        0
        Well done Shoigu all right said politics and emotion things are incompatible you need to create a situation of rapprochement and understanding with Ukraine (I do not mean the power that is now fascist)
        1. Asgard
          Asgard 20 March 2014 08: 03
          +3
          Hajduk failed to pit the Slavs .... (People turned out to be smarter))
          Shoigu lets go (spitting on the law, the "man" committed a crime by giving the order to shoot !?)
          What is very significant is the Law on the side, let Gaiduk try ONCE AGAIN, leading the armed resistance of Bandera in Ukraine))
          Moreover, the regulations of the armed forces directly prohibit shooting at their people ...
          Shoigu does not know this, wants to share responsibility for the future crimes of Haiduk ...
          1. Svetlana
            Svetlana 20 March 2014 08: 33
            +2
            As far as I understand, (maybe I'm wrong, let someone correct me then) the Ukrainian authorities did not give the order to shoot at civilians, but allowed them to shoot, i.e. act according to the situation and, if necessary, use weapons. While this is not much more humane, it is still not the same by definition. And Gaiduk, as reported, "broadcast" this order, i.e. brought to the attention of the military personnel. And he did not give such an order himself. I am not making excuses for anyone, I am just trying to understand the essence of what is happening and the degree of Gaiduk's guilt. His fault, I think, is only that he did not immediately go over to the Russian side, as many did, but waited for his arrest. He did not order to shoot at those who seized the headquarters. Or am I missing something?
            1. Sandov
              Sandov 20 March 2014 08: 51
              +2
              Quote: Svetlana
              And Gaiduk, as reported, "broadcast" this order, i.e. brought to the attention of the military personnel.

              I think it’s necessary to release him all the same, but all the claims are still to Turchinov. Here is a criminal and a protege of the Americans.
          2. andrejwz
            andrejwz 20 March 2014 09: 52
            +1
            Quote: Asgard
            Shoigu does not know this, wants to share responsibility for the future crimes of Haiduk ...

            You are absolutely right, the order to use weapons against civilians is a military crime. And Shoigu, with all due respect, with such appeals went beyond his competence and excluded the "big brother" syndrome. Well, that the Crimean brothers: welcome home.
      2. Bi_Murza
        Bi_Murza 20 March 2014 07: 20
        +1
        Well done Shoigu all right said politics and emotion things are incompatible you need to create a situation of rapprochement and understanding with Ukraine (I do not mean the power that is now fascist)
  2. Fitter65
    Fitter65 20 March 2014 05: 27
    +8
    But a person can go to the type of bosses with a clear conscience, and not being afraid that they will arrest him as an enemy of the Maidan ... Because in their eyes he is now affected by the Russian invaders.
    1. mad
      mad 20 March 2014 07: 09
      +2
      Well, if you signed the consent for tacit cooperation with the GRU, then let him go, God bless him ...
    2. olegkrava
      olegkrava 20 March 2014 13: 48
      0
      They will be planted right away, like those two military men. The prosecution will not executed the order to shoot. Profukal fleet.
  3. vjatsergey
    vjatsergey 20 March 2014 05: 27
    +5
    Not right, let him answer the questions first, and then go to hell
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 20 March 2014 05: 41
      +1
      Quote: vjatsergey
      and then goes to hell

      Yeah, walk to the isthmus laughing
    2. Lantau
      Lantau 20 March 2014 05: 46
      0
      Quote: vjatsergey
      Not right, let him answer the questions first, and then go to hell

      Do you think he won’t be asked about anything? He will tell a lot !!!
    3. Walk
      Walk 20 March 2014 06: 48
      +1
      And what questions can he answer? Everything is known without his words. Let him go to Ukraine if he wants to stay there. His right. Moreover, there are a couple of dozen admiral generals in the Ukrainian 6000 combat-ready army. Maybe the company will be subordinated.
  4. Ivan Russky
    Ivan Russky 20 March 2014 05: 32
    +6
    Quote: Fitter65
    . Because in their eyes he is now affected by the Russian invaders.

    Scha such horrors will tell the maydauns how they arrested, tied, beaten and raped the poor man. If only they suspected that it would be bad to carry any nonsense, one hundred percent.
    1. Kuvabatake
      Kuvabatake 20 March 2014 08: 28
      0
      You’ll pay some medal. crying
  5. VADEL
    VADEL 20 March 2014 05: 38
    +2
    The main "polite man" asked! good
  6. Vasek
    Vasek 20 March 2014 05: 40
    +3
    In development:
    The Minister of Defense of Russia, Army General Sergey Shoigu held a telephone conversation with the acting Minister of Defense of Ukraine Igor Tenyukh.
    imagine an intra-war conversation:
    >) Amiral? :))
    <, :) General?)))
    1. Name
      Name 20 March 2014 05: 48
      0
      "Lieutenant" is probably something like this:
  7. Leonid Har
    Leonid Har 20 March 2014 05: 45
    +1
    Right. To free. Let stomping to Yatsenyuk. However, the order to shoot at civilians is not the case. Hajduk had to save face and remain human first of all.
  8. krpmlws
    krpmlws 20 March 2014 06: 01
    +1
    Quote: Ivan Russian
    Quote: Fitter65
    . Because in their eyes he is now affected by the Russian invaders.

    Scha such horrors will tell the maydauns how they arrested, tied, beaten and raped the poor man. If only they suspected that it would be bad to carry any nonsense, one hundred percent.

    We will always have time to let him go, but what about the observance of the rule of law, re-education? Let him travel around Russia, Siberia, for example, see how and what people live, think. Impunity corrupts, creates the illusion of permissiveness, but this is not good. It is necessary to qualify the order if it is is criminal, and the admiral gave a criminal order, then he is a criminal and his detention is lawful. The point is not that we supposedly should not "become like the poor," but in compliance with international law. We must be consistent, the law must be the same for everyone, Therefore, this Bandera hero must be judged. Shoigu shows softness in this matter, but in vain. The Nazis understand and respect only strength, so if Gaiduk is released without trial, they will perceive this step as a manifestation of weakness, and the "martyr" will pi-t to the whole world about the horrors of gbsh dungeons.
  9. siberko
    siberko 20 March 2014 06: 17
    +1
    I think Shoigu did everything right, because Gaiduk was forced to obey orders obeying the charter and the oath ... He didn’t give any commands, he is responsible for maintaining the property of each unit, for its subordinate personnel (and there are those who want to join the Russian Federation and those who are in Kiev, the collective situation heavy to say the least)
  10. waisson
    waisson 20 March 2014 06: 20
    +5
    there is etiquette of officer honor ---- but if it is for simple it will be so empty as in this picture
  11. mamont5
    mamont5 20 March 2014 06: 34
    +5
    Very interesting details of what happened:
    Is that NewKerensky? smile
    “The tension was defused by the news of the unusual form in which the commander of the Ukrainian Navy, Rear Admiral Serhiy Gaiduk, was found in his own headquarters. staff of the Russian special services. "

    But this is already dangerous, you should expect bloody provocations.
    "Staff" guns "are taken under the protection of a self-defense guard, but now it's a pure formality. Racks, pyramids and boxes for storing small arms and ammunition are empty! Pistols, machine guns, sniper rifles and light machine guns were somehow taken out of the headquarters of the Navy in advance. the ammunition disappeared from the barrels. "

    Enough and ordinary provocateurs.
    "in Sevastopol trolleybuses, where usually Ukrainian speech can be heard no more often than, say, Portuguese, some guests suddenly start to shout defiantly loudly at the whole salon in a mov with a Galician accent. A scandal often arises. The squabble is immediately filmed to be shown on all of Ukraine: in the hero-city, the "separatists" have already banned even speaking her native language.

    In a war, as in a war — in the heat of a revolutionary struggle, these “lame” lads and girls sometimes lose their gadgets with the addresses of their Western masters. A certain Lena Perepadia was so carried away by the investigation of the false disappearances of the activists of the “Avtomaydan” on the territory of Crimea, that she accidentally posted her true address on the network:
    Kind regards
    Dr. Lena Perepadya
    DW-Deutsche Welle
    Kurt-Schumacher-Str. Xnumx
    53113 Bonn

    The priest of the Greek Catholic community of Sevastopol, military chaplain Mykola Kvich was detained with a batch of body armor. Armor of the 4th class of protection, capable of stopping bullets of increased penetration. The seasoned Sevastopol investigators were literally taken aback during a search in the house of the Holy Father - on the walls of the banner of the SS Galicia division, Nazi symbols, portraits of Stepan Bandera and UPA commander Roman Shukhevych. "
    http://warfiles.ru/show-50592-oruzheynye-komnaty-shtaba-ukrainskih-vms-v-sevasto
    pole-okazalis-pusty.html
  12. Walk
    Walk 20 March 2014 07: 08
    0
    The "democrats" will not calm down. I have a feeling that some of them have slept in a lethargic sleep for the last 10 years. They still think that they can tell Russia what to do and how, and the nonsense they are broadcasting should remain for everyone, including in Russia , the ultimate truth. The time of Yeltsin and the humpback is over, their verbal diarrhea does not particularly bother anyone in our country, but they have no peace - everyone teaches "Western values."
  13. koksalek
    koksalek 20 March 2014 07: 11
    +1
    To recruit and let go of the enemy’s camp
  14. kirneff211
    kirneff211 20 March 2014 08: 21
    0
    Well, he said correctly, he was following the orders of his leadership.
  15. kirneff211
    kirneff211 20 March 2014 08: 26
    0
    it is necessary to take Yarosh Klitschko’s tractor Yatsenyuk and the like
  16. dmb
    dmb 20 March 2014 08: 37
    +1
    For all my negative attitude towards Shoigu and a great doubt that his appeal was dictated by the sense of justice that awoke in him, everything is correct in form. Who saw or heard the text of the order ?. But yesterday in the Republic of Tajikistan it was said that it was about opening fire in the event of a life threat. Well, and what claims can there be in this case? No need to imagine the enemy too obvious fools, you can sit in a puddle. Military (and not victims of the EG) one question; what the hell is an officer with a gun?
    1. Normal
      Normal 20 March 2014 08: 47
      0
      Quote: dmb
      what the hell is an officer with a gun?


      Shoot (black humor).

      Quote: dmb
      Who saw or heard the text of the order ?.

      And here you are absolutely right. We draw conclusions and write comments based on information throws. Then we get into a silly position.
  17. kare
    kare 21 March 2014 23: 21
    0
    Quote: Sandov
    Quote: Svetlana
    And Gaiduk, as reported, "broadcast" this order, i.e. brought to the attention of the military personnel.

    I think it’s necessary to release him all the same, but all the claims are still to Turchinov. Here is a criminal and a protege of the Americans.

    All Nazi criminals also had no need to be tried in Nuremberg. It was necessary to let everyone go, it was enough just Hitler, but also a protege of the Americans recourse
  18. razved
    razved 22 March 2014 11: 30
    0
    We act in the best Russian traditions.