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Kiev leaves no hope to return the Crimea by force

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Kiev leaves no hope to return the Crimea by force


The deed is done - a referendum was held in Crimea, an agreement on joining Russia was signed. But the situation does not become calmer. It seems that Kiev is acting according to the old saying “a pig will find dirt”, and who wants to fight drunk will definitely return home with a broken physiognomy.

Officers without brains

Recently, hackers cracked a mailbox on a Gmail service that was supposedly considered safe. The box belonged to Igor Protsyuk, Colonel of the Ukrainian Army, and Head of the Department of Bilateral Military Cooperation in the General Staff of Ukraine. The stupid officer kept his correspondence in a box for several years, and not only personal, but also official. As a result, interesting materials leaked to the Web.

Among the documents lost by the messy officer was an assessment of the operational situation around Ukraine. It contained numerical data on the deployment of Russian army groups near the border with Ukraine and in Crimea. Moreover, with a breakdown by units and formations and with an approximate number of personnel, equipment and weapons. Judging by these data, the General Staff of Ukraine believes that up to 6 Russian shock groups plus a group in the Crimea with operational reserves are potentially threatened by Ukrainian troops. They can attack from four directions. Together with reserves, the General Staff of Ukraine estimated the strength of a potential enemy at about 50 thousand people, about 500 tanks, 1400 armored combat vehicles, more than 200 aircraft and helicopters.

In Russia, concentration of troops is explained by teachings, and this is true. Moreover, Moscow even offered to make a control flight around the disturbing areas under the Open Sky program.

Military gesheft

In general, apart from the banal provocation of the population of the southeast and Russia, the mobilization and movement of troops have another goal. Economic. In the case of the defense of the sea nenka from the Moskal-Mongol hordes, as is well known, all means are good, especially those that can be “mastered”.

In particular, the Ukrainian oligarchs sell fuel for their “favorite defenders” at a price that is too high in 1,5 – 2. Equipment and equipment are purchased with a non-market mark-up. Moreover, they are sold by all the same oligarchs like Kolomoisky, who had previously actively promoted their "free" assistance to the army. They help so actively that, according to Ukrainian journalists, the allocated funds from the reserve fund will be spent in a couple of weeks.

Ukrainian army is better not to shine


The stolen document by the hackers of the General Staff of Ukraine shows a clear attempt to gloss over reality. To diminish the potential threat and invent Russian troops at least some non-existent flaws such as low population support in the southeast and the Crimea. Nevertheless, it shows that there is simply no chance for Ukraine’s army in the event of a conflict. Even the indicated number of the Russian grouping does not leave much hope, and the list of quite real advantages of the RF Armed Forces is very long.

It contains a high level of training of military personnel, and extensive combat experience, and a high saturation of troops with modern equipment, communications and combat control systems, electronic warfare systems (EW). High mobility of units, the ability to act in isolation from the main forces and powerful combat-ready aviationequipped with experienced crews, and much more. It's nice when our army is appreciated.

Understand in the General Staff of Ukraine and the inability of NATO and the EU in the event of a conflict to counter Russia. It is likely that this fact prompted to abandon the attempt to force the breakdown of the referendum. It seems that everything is clear and understandable - it is impossible to speak about war and speech. You need to sit quietly, "covered with a rag and not gleaming." But Kiev is not looking for easy ways.

Money for the army is collected on the porch

In an effort to strengthen the staggering power by creating an image of an insidious enemy, Kiev not only builds up forces on the border with the Crimea, but also moves everything that it is possible to budge to the south-east. Supposedly to cover the borders. The so-called Minister of Defense of Ukraine, Admiral Tenyukh, who earlier claimed that there are only 6 thousand people in combat-ready units in the army, now cheerfully reports about the allegedly achieved “parity in forces” with Russia. And that does promise to discourage the Crimea.

Given the variegatedness, the aggregation of the APU groupings being moved, their low equipment and training, it is not clear what the land-based naval commander is interpreting in general. Kiev then cheerfully reports an additional allocation of 6 billion hryvnias from the reserve funds to the army, then tearfully asks oligarchs and ordinary people to throw off the “defenders” either to petrolatum, then to tank batteries, then to “unload”, then to the radio. Even typical schemes of divorce for money, such as sending SMS to a short number with the aim of helping the army, are used. You can still in the churches of the Kiev schismatics and Uniates put circles on the porch - maybe it will help.

Deployment for Deployment

A few days ago, even a partial mobilization was announced in Ukraine. It is planned to recruit 20 thousand people in the army in 45 days and the same number to the National Guard. I would like to immediately notice that such unhurried mobilization is simply a laugh. And the number of recruits will only allow to reduce the holes in the staffing of the parts. But, probably, something was conceived in Kiev.

The newly formed National Guard is made up of the former internal troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and border guards, with the addition of the Maidan’s self-defense forces and the Right Sector to them as reservists. So far, this parody of the army and the process of training reservist fascists without humor will not look. There is a great desire to fight the “Muscovites” there, but it is unlikely to last after the first meeting with the enemy. However, these thugs can massacre the population of the southeast. For this, apparently, and armed.

Therefore, military convoys from Western Ukraine in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions are not welcome. The local population puts pickets on roads and train stations, turning the military back. And often they do not mind, knowing full well that they are simply being substituted for the Russian army.

Unsinkable aircraft carrier "Crimea"

The strategic position of Crimea allows you to control Ukraine from the south and almost the entire Black Sea from its territory. The importance of Crimea in the aviation age has especially intensified. Hitler called him “an unsinkable aircraft carrier threatening the oil fields in Romania”. Until 1991, the Soviet Crimea was such an “aircraft carrier”, providing the fleet an excellent, extensive network of bases: Sevastopol, Donuzlav, Balaklava, Kerch, Feodosiya, etc. Now, after 23 years of untimelyness, all these bases and airfields are returning to those who really need them.

The process is fast. Long-range mobile anti-ship complexes "Bastion-P" with supersonic Onyx missiles have already been delivered to the Crimea. Together with the same complexes on the coast of the Krasnodar Territory, they control the water area of ​​the Black Sea by about two-thirds, sweeping it to the Turkish coast. Even almost to the exit from the Bosphorus. Modern systems of air defense of ships against these missiles are ineffective.

Seen in the Crimea and simpler complexes "Ball". They are equipped with less long-range and subsonic missiles "Uran-U". Obviously, this junior complex in our anti-ship cage is designed for shooting targets that are too expensive for Onyx - for example, boats.

At the same time, the airfields are rapidly becoming settled. Through the Kerch Strait, there is an active airfield equipment and radar equipment. The radar network of the standby mode, such as "Caste-2М2" and others, is being developed. The C-300PM air defense missile system is being deployed on the territory, and the C-400 C-300 can probably be deployed. The Pantyr-S air defense missile system was introduced to protect critical objects and long-range air defense systems. Most likely, the C-XNUMXPS airplanes of the former Ukrainian anti-aircraft missile regiment in Fiolent, and other air defense systems and radar stations located in the Crimea will be brought into the divine form. It should be expected that the aviation group of fighter and assault aircraft will soon fly there. The sky will be closed securely.

Increases and land grouping. On the peninsula, the MLRS "Uragan", the upgraded "Grad", the Msta-B howitzers and the new BTR-82A in large quantities are seen. And in the battalion columns in a significant amount there are the latest EW complexes, such as “Leer-2” and “Infauna”. In general, the “polite people” who, most likely, will soon again put on their usual insignia - this is not the army of some Ukrainian ragged people.
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  1. mountaineer
    mountaineer 20 March 2014 13: 03
    +66
    psycho hospital crying !!!!!! crying
    1. ele1285
      ele1285 20 March 2014 13: 18
      +9
      “Polite people”, who are likely to wear their usual insignia soon

      Well, they need to come up with some chevron, let's draw it all together.
      1. CALL.
        CALL. 20 March 2014 13: 39
        +31
        “From now on, Ukraine is a cursed land that will for three generations take away its meanness and cowardice,” wrote writer Sergei Lukyanenko on his blog. We decided to ask why he expressed himself so sharply.
        Sergey Lukyanenko: Excuse me, but don’t you see what happened and is happening? For over twenty years, Ukraine has not been able to establish relations between the two largest groups of its population. For ten years, Ukraine has "Maidan", overthrows the power that she herself chose. For six months, Ukraine has been fueling the situation in the center of the capital. Crowds of militants beat and burn unarmed conscripts. And the inhabitants of Kiev calmly walk among this madness. Bring bottles for Molotov cocktails! Pies are baking! They look at the TV that is happening on the square.
        Having arranged this bloody massacre of their own children, Ukrainians amicably increase the degree of madness. They bring to power the extreme Nazis and Russophobia. They humiliate the Russian and Russian-oriented population.
        Unleash civil strife and civil war! And you want to say that the inhabitants of Ukraine did not curse their land? That this blood and hatred will not stretch from grandfather to father, from father to son? Yes, it’s not for three generations, I’m afraid, but for all ten it has accumulated!
        Dossier
        Sergey Lukyanenko was born in 1968 in Karatau (Kazakh SSR), a science fiction writer, blogger, columnist. The author of the famous "Watch" ("Night Watch", "Day Watch", "Twilight Watch", "Last Watch", "Small Watch", etc.).
        http://www.aif.ru/politics/russia/1126677
      2. lewerlin53rus
        lewerlin53rus 20 March 2014 13: 45
        +3
        Quote: ele1285
        let's all draw together.

        Zelenka laughing
      3. The comment was deleted.
      4. siberalt
        siberalt 20 March 2014 14: 56
        0
        Why come up with when you are already familiar.
      5. TAMERLAN 7
        TAMERLAN 7 20 March 2014 15: 17
        +2
        Quote: ele1285
        Well, they need to come up with some chevron, let's draw it all together.
        They have already come up with.
        I would come up with them, but it would be indecent ...
      6. StolzSS
        StolzSS 20 March 2014 22: 20
        0
        This is contrary to the tactics of unidentified actions ..
    2. Tumbleweed
      Tumbleweed 20 March 2014 13: 20
      +6
      Quote: climber
      psycho hospital crying !!!!!!

      More precisely, you will not say !!! drinks
      Here one can clearly see some kind of schizophrenic hysteria and throwing from fraternization to mobilization. First, "promise them whatever they want, and we will hang them later," like yesterday, we are introducing a visa regime with Russia, today Yaytsenyukh is already shouting "the introduction of a visa regime is beneficial to Russia and will hit Ukraine," crazy ...
      True, one line can be traced clearly - financial: both the oligarchs were given a "pinch" (I think for a reason) and the gold was taken to the American embassy and will probably "grab" in their favor winked
      1. vladimirZ
        vladimirZ 20 March 2014 13: 35
        +13
        The faster the Ukrainian Bandera will launch military offensive operations, the faster the Russian troops will be in Kiev and Lviv.
        Ukrainian media write that the leaders of Ukraine have already delivered a dozen beautiful delicious high-calorie ties. laughing
        1. Native grandfather
          Native grandfather 20 March 2014 14: 48
          +2
          Quote: vladimirZ
          Ukrainian media write that the leaders of Ukraine have already delivered a dozen beautiful delicious high-calorie ties.

          Th, my tie has already reached Kiev ?! So fast? About 10 days ago sent.
          Or is it a joke?
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        3. GELEZNII_KAPUT
          GELEZNII_KAPUT 20 March 2014 15: 54
          +2
          Quote: vladimirZ
          The faster the Ukrainian Bandera will launch military offensive operations, the faster the Russian troops will be in Kiev and Lviv.

          Lviv ?! Nooo the Violinist is not needed ... bully
        4. Semurg
          Semurg 20 March 2014 18: 47
          0
          Quote: vladimirZ
          The faster the Ukrainian Bandera will launch military offensive operations, the faster the Russian troops will be in Kiev and Lviv.

          Last year, there was an article on HE about tank biathlon and that many countries can participate in it, including Ukraine, possibly with a Bulat tank. True, it was supposed to be a competition and not military operations, but life sometimes throws out such strange somersaults that some users assume that in the T-72 and Bulat tanks the crews of Ukrainians and Russian warring with each other will burn.
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      2. Kuvabatake
        Kuvabatake 20 March 2014 13: 44
        +6
        Are you kidding. What are you saying? They do everything for the people. They themselves do not eat up (look at the swelling from hunger), do not fill up (Yatsenyuk is pale, the eye twitches) laughing
      3. CALL.
        CALL. 20 March 2014 14: 23
        +6
        this is not the army of some Ukrainian ragged people.

      4. inkass_98
        inkass_98 20 March 2014 14: 38
        +4
        Quote: tumbleweed
        "the introduction of a visa regime is beneficial to Russia and will hit Ukraine," crazy ...

        After all, Parubiy spoke out about the visa regime, but today they slept through it, took a calculator and calculated that approximately 3 million Ukrainians work in Russia and send home about 4 billion Baku rubles. The visa regime is introduced, the shop closes, and we get the fifth column among citizens who are loyal (for now) to the maydanut. Something does not grow together ... Here today, Yaytsenyuh (replaced in the USA by an avatar who knows how to speak Russian) and turned on the back one.
      5. Gomunkul
        Gomunkul 20 March 2014 15: 00
        +2
        Yesterday we are introducing a visa regime with Russia, today Yaytsenyukh is already shouting "the introduction of a visa regime is beneficial to Russia and will hit Ukraine," crazy ...
        I liked the phrase from one comment on one information portal about the current situation in Ukraine, I will not publish the whole thing, but here is the essence of the statement: "The circus must go on tour!" bully
      6. Gomunkul
        Gomunkul 20 March 2014 15: 00
        0
        Yesterday we are introducing a visa regime with Russia, today Yaytsenyukh is already shouting "the introduction of a visa regime is beneficial to Russia and will hit Ukraine," crazy ...
        I liked the phrase from one comment on one information portal about the current situation in Ukraine, I will not publish the whole thing, but here is the essence of the statement: "The circus must go on tour!" bully
    3. Uncle
      Uncle 20 March 2014 13: 23
      +13
      Quote: climber
      psycho hospital crying !!!

      By our standards, they just hired prostitutes. They are no stranger to what everyone knows to do with them, so undress a little, it's just relaxation. And at the expense of the psychiatric hospital, in general, I agree. It's just that the framework of a person's normality or abnormality is blurred. Listen to Novodvorskaya, she definitely belongs in a madhouse, but no, a "politician". What about Pussy Wright? And the chicken video? So the "vociferous" girls are just athletes.
      1. CALL.
        CALL. 20 March 2014 13: 52
        +4
        In the matter of defense of the ridge nenka from the Mongol hordes,

        Even the rhetoric of fascist Germany. The Germans went to liberate world civilization from the Bolshevik-Mongol hordes, to teach us subhumans to work for them, they went to lead us as supermen. Not broken off. History has the property of repeating itself.
        1. Native grandfather
          Native grandfather 20 March 2014 14: 58
          +5
          Quote: Z.O.V.
          History has the property of repeating itself.

          Guys, stop hoping for the cyclical nature of the story. She has not yet repeated. Now we make history ourselves. And it depends only on us in which direction it will wag. In the 45th, yes, our grandfathers gave the Nazis about shit ... about crap not childish. But now the Nazis are still alive and well. So the story has not yet repeated. Everything is only in our hands.
        2. PiP
          PiP 20 March 2014 17: 07
          0
          Quote: Z.O.V.
          Not broken off. History has the property of repeating itself.

          "all great world-historical events and personalities are repeated twice: the first time as a tragedy, and the second as a farce" (c) Hegel / Marx
      2. cdrt
        cdrt 20 March 2014 14: 04
        +1
        Quote: Uncle
        By our standards, they just hired prostitutes. They don’t get used to what everyone knows do with them, so getting a little undressed is just a vacation.


        Good fit Ukrainian "working" girls.
        winked
        There (in Ukraine) there are a lot of good girls.
        Well and yes, prostitution is certainly not an example of a profession useful for the psyche, but in comparison with Pussy (their story with chicken) - Ukrainian prostitutes with flags are the standard of mentally healthy people laughing
    4. W1950
      W1950 20 March 2014 13: 37
      +4
      This is exactly a psychiatric hospital, so you can expect anything from them. They make porridge and, if necessary, they dump it to the west.
    5. Setrac
      Setrac 20 March 2014 13: 39
      +17
      Quote: climber
      psycho hospital crying !!!!!!

      Meanwhile, the Maidan fighters mobilized for a new battle, the guard of the Ukrainian Fuhrer took with a fight, shouting "Glory to Ukraine", .....!?; drinks
      Distillery.
      1. f.lourens
        f.lourens 20 March 2014 13: 52
        +5
        How can we live without Nemiroff pepper? belay apparently their national guard is only capable of this and is capable of capturing unprotected objects, and wassat
        1. Not served
          Not served 20 March 2014 14: 05
          +2
          Yes Old Man will send a bison, and pepper! Bulbash which is very good ..
        2. Ustian
          Ustian 20 March 2014 15: 00
          +3
          ikami "glory to Ukraine", .....!?; drinks
          Distillery.

          This is a product of paramount importance for the Psekovsky troops! To attack without a gorivka and schnapps, no way. Yes, and when they will give to pindy, even pour grief ... But there will be much grief!
      2. Gunsmith
        Gunsmith 20 March 2014 14: 15
        +3
        Idiots! Raised on the holy grave - on Gorilka! There the people rose - they knocked them out in half an hour!
    6. raven75
      raven75 20 March 2014 13: 42
      +4
      I would even surrender to such "troops". For a while. Then he would have run away to FIG, no man can stand such a number of "enemies".
      1. cdrt
        cdrt 20 March 2014 14: 04
        +1
        Quote: raven75
        I would even surrender to such "troops". For a while. Then he would have run away to FIG, no man can stand such a number of "enemies".


        Here it is :-) +100500
      2. inkass_98
        inkass_98 20 March 2014 14: 43
        +1
        Quote: raven75
        I would even surrender to such "troops". A couple of sticks.

        They are unconventional, look, you will regret it.
      3. Native grandfather
        Native grandfather 20 March 2014 15: 00
        0
        Quote: raven75
        such a number of "enemies" no man can stand.

        Weak! bully
    7. maks-101
      maks-101 20 March 2014 13: 44
      +3
      But in general, how these politicians are going to fight, it’s somehow not clear, with bits against tanks, complete insanity.
      1. platitsyn70
        platitsyn70 20 March 2014 13: 49
        +6
        But in general, how these politicians are going to fight, it’s somehow not clear, with bits against tanks, complete insanity.
        Once Petka went to a karate school to a disco. Returns at night - all battered.
        - Vasily Ivanovich, that’s what the bastards do ...
        - Nothing Petka, let's go figure it out together.
        - Maybe tomorrow? - Don’t be afraid, you’ll stand - look.
        Well they went, Vasily Ivanovich comes in, wild cries are heard, then silence. Vasily Ivanovich comes out, staggering and wiping his weapons on the grass:
        - Where are they with bare heels and yes against checkers!
    8. wow
      wow 20 March 2014 13: 56
      +3
      And these were not driven from the "golden triangle". There such "patriot spravzhnyh" shaft, rows are. To earn money for "nenki".
    9. Mhpv
      Mhpv 20 March 2014 15: 58
      0
      Big Tits Go To Go !!
    10. wasjasibirjac
      wasjasibirjac 20 March 2014 16: 42
      0
      signature is not correct - Ukrainian DRG votes to Moscow
    11. andrey777
      andrey777 21 March 2014 11: 02
      0
      Well, a very beautiful Ukrainian army. laughing
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  2. forester
    forester 20 March 2014 13: 03
    +1
    old man Krylov remembered "ah Pug know she is strong"
    1. Lantau
      Lantau 20 March 2014 13: 26
      +2
      Quote: forester
      old man Krylov remembered "ah Pug know she is strong"

      Yes, here in my opinion it’s not Moska, here there is a complete lack of brain. Even if they at least try to do something by military means, it will only speed up the denouement. The offensive will then be on all fronts and directions. They will sweep them away in Kiev, like crumbs from the table!
      1. cdrt
        cdrt 20 March 2014 14: 07
        +2
        Quote: Lantau
        Yes, here in my opinion it’s not Moska, here there is a complete lack of brain. Even if they at least try to do something by military means, it will only speed up the denouement. The offensive will then be on all fronts and directions. They will sweep them away in Kiev, like crumbs from the table!


        You probably don’t understand what happened winked
        Have x..lov something taken away !!!! Well this spawn an unseen event.
        What fell into the hands - it’s gone, it’s said about them laughing
        And then they took away the peninsula acquired through overwork, with the healthiest climate, oil, gas in the territory of the former USSR.
        They will buzz all over the world, at the same time both the harvest and the crying-wailing (and sometimes threatening to cry) will be more than one year.
        Although at the same time, the people are quite sane, therefore, usually they do not go further than buzes.

        Well, it’s only Russians - they grab hold of a machine gun just a little
        1. Lantau
          Lantau 20 March 2014 14: 29
          0
          It may very well be. But no matter how they provocate, this is the question. For Ukraine is inadequate above the roof, one Sashko Bily what is worth.
    2. Gomunkul
      Gomunkul 20 March 2014 15: 29
      0
      old man Krylov remembered "ah Pug know she is strong"
      No, this is no longer Krylov, this is L. Carroll "Alice in Wonderland"! hi
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    4. Chuck-norris
      Chuck-norris 20 March 2014 17: 16
      +6
      THE HORROR OF THE OCCUPATION. CHAIN ​​DOGS OF THE PUTIN MODE ATTEMPT TO MOVE A CHILD WITH A BULLDOZER.
  3. Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx 20 March 2014 13: 04
    +4
    Ukraine is not capable of doing anything now, if only to swell her cheeks.
    1. rasputin17
      rasputin17 20 March 2014 13: 06
      +10
      Yes, no rather to push the rolls to the walking apocalypse !!)))
      1. RND
        RND 20 March 2014 13: 15
        +7
        Quote: rasputin17
        Yes, no rather to push the rolls to the walking apocalypse !!)))

        Tongue or nose?
    2. Donskoi
      Donskoi 20 March 2014 13: 44
      +5
      One thing is not Ukraine, but the junta can still do: create a "casus belli" and show a picture of the "bloody invasion" of Russian troops into defenseless Ukraine. Then the outraged West introduces NATO troops to Ukraine.
      As a result, the "speech therapist", "pastor" and "kul in the forehead" become the eternal rulers of everything that NATO grabs in Ukraine.
      Here for the provocation - all the pictures seem to be getting ready. It is a pity for ordinary soldiers, officers of the UA - junta, they already doomed them.
      1. alex-s
        alex-s 20 March 2014 14: 35
        +2
        As a result, the "speech therapist", "pastor" and "kul in the forehead" become the eternal rulers of everything that NATO grabs in Ukraine.

        And NATO will seize such zvizdyuly in Ukraine that these "rulers" will be sick until the end of their days!
        1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
          Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 20 March 2014 20: 19
          +1
          If anyone gets sick!
      2. AndreyS
        AndreyS 20 March 2014 14: 55
        +1
        Quote: Donskoi
        One thing is not Ukraine, but the junta can still do: create a "casus belli" and show a picture of the "bloody invasion" of Russian troops into defenseless Ukraine. Then the outraged West introduces NATO troops to Ukraine.

        I agree! Already throw groups in the Crimea, judging by the sniper shooting recently. The only thing I want to hope for is that they will do it as mediocre as they did everything before that!
    3. Berkut-UA
      Berkut-UA 21 March 2014 20: 59
      0
      There are a lot of those
      who agrees to do ANY provocation
      all the way to civilian killings
      in the southeast.
      Yarosh-Paruyy - do not consider heli
      Southeast Pure Aryans
      "One country ... one nation."
  4. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 20 March 2014 13: 05
    +13
    And what is the arrow on the map from Odessa? Ukraine is going to attack Crimea from the sea with its f (p) lot laughing
    They can’t do anything, a warrior is the collapse of the Ukrainian economy, and it’s such that miners with helmets will beat Yatsenyuk and the company. Clowns !!!!!!!
    1. operator35
      operator35 20 March 2014 13: 07
      +8
      Alexander, I welcome you hi
      I think from Odessa two divers will swim
      1. Sochi
        Sochi 20 March 2014 13: 14
        +7
        One, the second is retired.
      2. lewerlin53rus
        lewerlin53rus 20 March 2014 13: 47
        +1
        Quote: operator35
        two divers will swim from Odessa

        They have no more divers. Well, if only one stayed.About Ukrainian divers
      3. f.lourens
        f.lourens 20 March 2014 13: 54
        +1
        You are not right, dear, not two, but as many as five divers with tridents and a net wassat
      4. Gunsmith
        Gunsmith 20 March 2014 14: 24
        +7
        Quote: operator35
        I think from Odessa two divers will swim
        and will be attacked by our Fur Seals -
    2. Evgen_Vasilich
      Evgen_Vasilich 20 March 2014 13: 16
      +4
      No, the miners will not touch the eggs, they will disconnect from the dill and that's it!
    3. Normal
      Normal 20 March 2014 13: 38
      +7
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      And what is the arrow on the map from Odessa?

      I looked at the map, read this:
      In an effort to strengthen the shaky power by creating the image of an insidious enemy, Kiev not only builds up forces on the border with the Crimea, but also moves everything that can be moved to the southeast.

      and I thought; But from Bryansk to Kiev is much closer than from Odessa to Sevastopol. And from Belarus (union state) to Kiev there are generally less than 200 versts.
      Of course I'm not a strategist, but the good ones are also not Schliffen and Moltke.
      1. Gunsmith
        Gunsmith 20 March 2014 14: 38
        +2
        Yeah, their Guderian will go with all five tanks to break through Perekop, and Paulus will sit at Kyiwu ...
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 20 March 2014 14: 47
        +1
        Quote: Normal
        and I thought; But from Bryansk to Kiev is much closer than from Odessa to Sevastopol. And from Belarus (union state) to Kiev there are generally less than 200 versts.

        Vovan, just recently you didn’t notice point blank what Russia did. I want to ask, did you buy glasses or have your sight? Do not take for an insult, but ..... wink
        I saw the new anal site, the name is so patriotic, I won’t write comments.
        1. Normal
          Normal 20 March 2014 15: 05
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Vova, just recently you didn’t notice point blank what Russia did.


          Unproven.

          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          . I want to ask, did you buy glasses or have your sight? Do not take for an insult, but .....


          Yes, I just wrote that I see well. I see everything, both good and bad.
          He only emphasized the bad in that it is not acceptable and needs to be fixed. And the good has become evident only recently, and even then I would not be in a hurry to celebrate; there are doubts about the motives.
          Yes, and positive changes again in foreign policy that mask liberalism in the economy, slurred domestic politics and justify the irreplaceability of the Universal.
          Yes, he entered his name in history, this is certain. But! History does not end today and it will be possible to evaluate the result of current processes in about thirty years. Let's not rush and create an idol for ourselves.
          In the meantime, we are all in euphoria, we have the right to rejoice - we return the lost.
          I wouldn’t crap ... wink

          New anal site seen


          Sashan, Navalny, this is not relevant.
        2. Setrac
          Setrac 20 March 2014 16: 26
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov (2)

          I’m wondering who issues warnings to moderators? Or is it violent youth?
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 20 March 2014 16: 28
            +1
            Quote: Setrac

            I’m wondering who issues warnings to moderators?

            One from the admin, and the second I set myself. I checked how the system works laughing
    4. Kuvabatake
      Kuvabatake 20 March 2014 13: 46
      +1
      So they will give the order to attack, and themselves on the plane and in the states ...
    5. falcon
      falcon 20 March 2014 14: 12
      +1
      This map, apparently, was personally drawn by the hand of a prominent Ukrainian naval commander.
      Admiral Tenyukh, who unexpectedly discovered in himself and previously dozing remarkable
      military leadership talents. :)) "The main thing is to get involved in the battle, and then we'll see!"
      1. alone
        alone 20 March 2014 21: 46
        0
        In general, this plan can be considered nonsense. It is very similar to misinformation. A normal officer doesn’t draw such an officer. Especially arrows across the sea are generally screaming.
  5. darksoul
    darksoul 20 March 2014 13: 07
    +3
    Kiev leaves no hope to return the Crimea by force

    Pay pension to retirees, but think about how to live better humanly
  6. askort154
    askort154 20 March 2014 13: 07
    +6
    Kiev is late to think about Crimea, it's time to think about yourself!
    1. This
      This 20 March 2014 13: 19
      +7
      They have to think about the soul. And pack your bags - home, to Canada.
    2. Berkut-UA
      Berkut-UA 21 March 2014 21: 07
      0
      ... and no one thinks about the people.
      Already for a quarter century.

      "It's a shame for the state"
  7. Igor39
    Igor39 20 March 2014 13: 07
    +4
    Yes, the Crimean group must be fully equipped.
  8. RND
    RND 20 March 2014 13: 07
    +2
    Kiev leaves no hope to return the Crimea by force

    D_u_r_a_k is rich in thought ... laughing
    At the moment - the main capital of the ersatz rulers.
  9. melan
    melan 20 March 2014 13: 08
    +8
    With this approach, they will be overthrown by their own people in a couple of months. Western loans are being adopted, and the people will soon have nothing to eat. When this "patriotic" booze against Russia calms down and people start thinking about their own lives, then the moment of truth will come.
    1. sscha
      sscha 20 March 2014 13: 21
      +7
      Time, oddly enough, works for us! hi
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      1. mojohed2012
        mojohed2012 20 March 2014 13: 37
        +4
        What does this time work for us? In my opinion on them. They will train the warrior and banderlog in the guard and go to strangle the Southeast in blood.
        Then the United States will say - These are the affairs of the Ukrainian people - do not intervene, otherwise isolation! Let them fight for democracy!
        But we still blow.
        1. melan
          melan 20 March 2014 19: 14
          0
          Do not think that the South-East is such bleating sheep waiting in the wings. I am sure they will be able to fight back, and if necessary, "polite people" will also appear there.
  10. moremansf
    moremansf 20 March 2014 13: 08
    0
    Dreaming is not bad ...
  11. Gagarin
    Gagarin 20 March 2014 13: 10
    +3
    All mobilization is pure PR, they’ll tear some money, whip up patriotism, and shame the maleh ...
    AND THEN RUSSIA FORGET!
  12. zart_arn
    zart_arn 20 March 2014 13: 10
    +3
    Colonel plays war game or naval battle on paper. At the moment, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are practically not combat ready. The best tactic at the moment is to bring the Nezalezhnaya economy to complete default, then the vector of unfriendly sentiments of Ukrainians will shift in the direction of their own power.
  13. Kodar 75
    Kodar 75 20 March 2014 13: 12
    +22
    You need to sit quietly, "covered with rags and not shining."
  14. rasputin17
    rasputin17 20 March 2014 13: 12
    +4
    And often they don’t mind, knowing full well that they are simply being put under attack by the Russian army.


    What kind of power solutions can be discussed ?? Once again, nightmares dream nightmares !! Spring aggravation makes itself felt !! laughing They are paired with turchin in different chambers and for reinforced puncture of haloperidol and chlorpromazine alternating sulfazine in between !!
  15. Per se.
    Per se. 20 March 2014 13: 14
    +19
    "Kiev leaves no hope of returning Crimea by force," - a boy with a magic pipe is waiting for you, Bandera rats, at Sivash.
  16. Stasi
    Stasi 20 March 2014 13: 17
    +18
    There is no doubt that Bandera’s power will fight. They simply have no other choice, otherwise they will quickly begin to lose their supporters, saying how is it that we, with the help of the West, overthrew the current government, so will we really retreat and surrender Ukraine? The West will help us. True, Bandera will not go into an open clash, they will choose the tactics of guerrilla warfare and sabotage against the southeast and the Russian troops. Provocations in the Crimea have already begun, Bandera began to send their mercenaries and saboteurs. In fact, Russian troops, if it comes to war, will have to use the experience of the counter-terrorist operation in Chechnya, taking into account the specifics of Ukraine. Here, more work is not so much for the troops as for special forces, intelligence and counterintelligence. It is necessary to conduct campaigning among the population of the central and southeastern regions, as well as to activate propaganda regarding the Ukrainian military. Professional, well-designed and conducted propaganda work can do much more than the most effective military operations.
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 20 March 2014 15: 17
      0
      Shooting around the corner is not a fight. And no open agitation (food for geyropa). All literate themselves will understand. Until they mature, there is nothing to do there. But a lot of blood is not permissible. What are the maydaunas afraid of.
      Russia together with Crimea support the Ukrainian NOD. Everything has its time. Something like this.
  17. spirit
    spirit 20 March 2014 13: 17
    +5
    same to me Manstein laughing
    Cheyta strange map laid out) 3 hits from the shore? What will you be landing on? On fishing boats? winked
    And probably the rusty cruiser Ukraine will support))) who want to sell from yesterday's article)))))
  18. maksim
    maksim 20 March 2014 13: 18
    +4
    Chairman of the Executive Committee of the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS), Sergey Lebedev, said on Thursday that Ukraine’s possible exit from the CIS would hit the Ukrainian economy and the people of Ukraine.
  19. Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 20 March 2014 13: 20
    +11
    Let them say thanks that not all of the Tauride province, though, is still to come.
    1. maxcor1974
      maxcor1974 20 March 2014 14: 45
      +2
      A pity that not all. But I hope this is temporary.
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  20. UREC
    UREC 20 March 2014 13: 21
    +8
    The Ukrainian military is preparing the transfer of the latest combat-ready equipment to the Crimean self-defense units!
  21. Stiletto
    Stiletto 20 March 2014 13: 24
    +10
    All these dreams of proud ukrov are very reminiscent of one famous joke:
    - Until 13, I was very keen on photography.
    - So what is next?
    - And then the mother found the photo and took it.
  22. Bravo
    Bravo 20 March 2014 13: 24
    +5
    without words...
  23. stayer
    stayer 20 March 2014 13: 24
    +11
    These authorities need an external enemy more than ever. To write off all the failures, devastation, possible hunger and the further apocalypse of the economy. There is no better candidate than Russia. Enlightenment will come sooner or later, here there will be the biggest disappointment. Sorry for you, ordinary Ukrainians ...
  24. bvi1965
    bvi1965 20 March 2014 13: 25
    +5
    You need to sit quietly, "covered with rags and not shining"


    In our Navy they said "pretend rags and do not shine. This word is better suited.
  25. Mercenary
    Mercenary 20 March 2014 13: 27
    +2
    This is politics; after 45 days of mobilization, the yaats and nyuk will report to the whole world that Ukraine could wipe Russia off the face of the earth with the achieved parity. but he was the chief of Ukraine, who felt sorry for her. So, on the horizon is the new Obama Peace Prize winner.
  26. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 20 March 2014 13: 28
    +9
    To me, the speeches of the leaders of the Ukrainian Maidan remind me of the hysteria of their predecessors during the "second Ruins" - Petliura and Co., from the old Soviet film "Shchors":

    1. Alexandr73
      Alexandr73 20 March 2014 13: 45
      +4
      Amazing, especially about Schors. And after all, one in one all coincides. History repeats itself. Only if the actors play in the film, then in Ukraine now everything is happening live.
  27. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 20 March 2014 13: 33
    +1
    Quote: RND
    D_u_r_a_k is rich in thought ...

    Indeed. Who drew this map seems more like painting. Obviously not military. Some arrows, when hundreds of kilometers of the border are bare. Rather, to provoke the army, they are also pulling up hysteria, and it’s necessary to make money.
    1. 120352
      120352 20 March 2014 14: 33
      +2
      Everything is much simpler. The EU said that Ukraine will not be taken under any circumstances. No one needs gangsters, fascists and loafers. And I want to eat Ukrainians. Now they will imitate the outbreak of hostilities and immediately surrender. So the Ukrainian state invented by the Bolsheviks will cease to exist, and part of Russia, called Ukraine will return to the structure of Russia, as it was before the Brest Peace. Yarosh and the right sector are used as bargaining chips, they will try to pay us for their freedom. Well, and then how it goes ...
  28. mamont5
    mamont5 20 March 2014 13: 33
    +5
    I liked the map - the arrows are so beautifully drawn. What will they attack from the sea? Apparently on Cossack plows ... They just forgot a stream of song:
    "How easy everything is
    In words and on paper,
    How easy it is on a smooth map
    Draw an arrow!
    And then you have to go
    Through the mountains and ravines ...
    So before, man
    Learn to walk! "

    “In particular, Ukrainian oligarchs sell fuel for“ beloved defenders ”at a 1,5-2 times higher price. Equipment and equipment are purchased with a non-market markup. And they are sold by the same oligarchs like Kolomoisky, who had previously actively promoted their“ free "Aid to the army. They help so actively that, according to Ukrainian journalists, the allocated funds from the reserve fund will be spent in a couple of weeks."

    Well, always like that. War is war, and business is business.
  29. mamba
    mamba 20 March 2014 13: 33
    +6
    The operational saturation of the territory of Crimea with modern Russian military equipment will make Kiev Natsik think for granted. And if we take into account the possibility of the passage of our troops through the territory of Belarus, then Ukraine is vulnerable from three sides. For the defense of such a long front, the Ukrainian army is not enough, even if you place its soldiers one by one in the line of sight.
    But in any case, you need to remember that the desire to fight with the "Muscovites" is huge ... Those. motivation hot Ukrainian ladies do not hold, and this is half the success.
    And it is hardly possible to agree with the author that ... it is unlikely to last after the first meeting with the enemy. Still, we are brothers in blood and stamina are about the same. It is a pity that it’s immoral for us to shed brotherly blood, but for Kiev Natsik it’s cool. request
    1. Gunsmith
      Gunsmith 20 March 2014 14: 58
      +3
      So after all, UNA-UNSO with the Waffen SS * Galicia * also came up with the brothers, .. with such a kindred and no enemies!
  30. vasyliy1
    vasyliy1 20 March 2014 13: 34
    +1
    Banderlog understood that no one wants to give them money - that’s why they are building military companies, apparently they wanted to be a captive to us, they’ll live more satisfying!
  31. parus2nik
    parus2nik 20 March 2014 13: 36
    +2
    The devil is not so terrible as he is painted ...
  32. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 20 March 2014 13: 37
    +7
    They even use typical schemes of money divorce, such as sending SMS to a short number in order to help the army.
    Such fakes are also used. Please note: this short number has recently been used to raise money for the Ukrainian army (flashed on the internet). stop
    Well, in our Crimea, financial assistance is clearly not required.
  33. konvalval
    konvalval 20 March 2014 13: 37
    +2
    Quote: climber
    psycho hospital crying !!!!!! crying

    Do not shoot to kill! Just take prisoner!
  34. alex47russ
    alex47russ 20 March 2014 13: 37
    +2
    I'm in shock! Last brains sniffed !!! A nuthouse crying for them !!! wassat
  35. kelevra
    kelevra 20 March 2014 13: 41
    +3
    If the Ukrainian authorities were smarter, they would have lagged behind Crimea a long time ago. When he was Ukraine, they did not see his needs and problems at point blank range, they especially wanted to foment ethnic conflicts. Now, what's the point of thickening paints over Crimea. I’m going to rest in Crimea and I’ll go there all the time. My grandmother freed Crimea during the war, so this land is not indifferent to me.
  36. Platov
    Platov 20 March 2014 13: 46
    +2
    The oligarchs want to take their last money in their hands before leaving the sinking ship, they do not understand with the thieves mind that the rest of the ships are fully staffed with their rats. But the barrel still has a place.
  37. rauffg
    rauffg 20 March 2014 13: 48
    +5
    video on the network found the readiness of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to protect the integrity of the country. year 2009.
  38. Sochi
    Sochi 20 March 2014 13: 51
    +1
    I would write at the entrance to the Crimea from Russia - welcome !!! From Ukraine - Leave all hope (Bandera) coming here !!!
    1. sinukvl
      sinukvl 20 March 2014 13: 58
      +1
      Then from the Ukrainian side write "To each his own!"
  39. Sergg
    Sergg 20 March 2014 13: 53
    0
    Money for the army is collected on the porch


    Here we have survived, soon Klitschko "in the point", Yaytsenyukh and others will begin to engage in prostitution. Bravo, comrades, what modern revolutionaries will not do for their own benefit.
  40. IGS
    IGS 20 March 2014 14: 04
    +5
    I looked at the picture in the title, something that reminds me of ...
  41. Filand
    Filand 20 March 2014 14: 14
    +8
    - Izya! What is going on in Ukraine?
    - Sema, a complete madhouse! Russian troops surrounded the Ukrainian military unit and shouted: "Surrender!"
    And they are answered from there: "The Russians are not surrendering!"
  42. Executer
    Executer 20 March 2014 14: 18
    +5
    A friend of mine from Odessa, who has lived there for 37 years, said about the Ukrainians briefly and, it seems, exactly: "prostitutes"!
  43. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 20 March 2014 14: 21
    +6
    They say that dreaming is not harmful, but when a schizophrenic begins to dream, such dreams end badly. Of course, the "right-wing" people will pindet about "drang nach osten", but I'm sure Russia will have the right "bolt" for their "nut" But another problem appears: what will happen next? The existing situation in Ukraine cannot last too long: the "pendulum" must swing in one direction or another, and the Banderaites create their own "guards" for this. Are they preparing for this in the South-East? It is difficult to conclude: there is too little information from there. To repulse the Bandera "guards", the South-East needs to arm itself, to turn "militias" such as the people's militias into armed trained paramilitary formations. In general, it is necessary to organize, actively support leaders, and active people to be nominated as leaders. There is a high probability that their "guards", the radicals will arrange a "vendetta" in the South-East of Ukraine. But will the Russian armed forces come to the rescue this time? In the history of Crimea, the US and EU members behaved like “an authority lowered in the zone” (quote from M. Zadornov). But regarding the South-East, NATO can declare “mobilization”, considering it “beyond.” The situation will be different if the resistance the population of the eastern regions will take on the character of a mass uprising: it will be more difficult for NATO to keep silent about such a situation in the world, and Russia will be able to send troops. The Kiev government, using the factor of a temporary lull, will be able to concentrate the army on the border and create an echeloned defense. Then such a defense will have to both sides, but I really don't want the Russian and Ukrainian military to die, so Russia needs to quickly determine the future situation in Ukraine.
  44. alex-s
    alex-s 20 March 2014 14: 23
    0
    Today, which is not news, it’s right balm on the heart! fellow
  45. Filand
    Filand 20 March 2014 14: 25
    +7
    Quote: Sergg
    Here we have survived, soon Klitschko "in the point", Yaytsenyukh and others will begin to engage in prostitution.
  46. il2.chewie
    il2.chewie 20 March 2014 14: 39
    +1
    Now, let them see what happened to their idol, who bravely boasted in Munich
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 20 March 2014 15: 54
      +4
      Luxurious funeral. So what? What is the meaning of this photo? The motivation of the "hero" or vice versa? Somehow in ours it is better so laughing
      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/374/sajd161.jpg
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  47. raf
    raf 20 March 2014 14: 40
    0
    Quote: RND
    D_u_r_a_k is rich in thought ...

    Not wrong, "Duren dumkoi is richer!" should it be, if I'm not mistaken ?! lol
  48. 120352
    120352 20 March 2014 14: 40
    +4
    They will not have to fight with a small Crimea. but with big Russia. And there, you look. and other sane ones will catch up: Odessa, Nikolaev, Kherson, Krivoy Rog, Donetsk, Lugansk, Kharkov, Poltava, Sumy, Cherkasy, Chernihiv and other Russian-speaking, those from New Russia. And they will have Chigirin. So, an attempt to war against Russia (Crimea) will result in suicide for the Nazis.
  49. Sma11
    20 March 2014 14: 48
    +2
    Concerning such posters one thought: Dorm ... and drank ... uki.
  50. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 20 March 2014 14: 52
    0
    And I think, what they are offered to fly? This is so that the desire completely disappears winked !