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A.Parshev: “The territorial integrity of Ukraine depends on respect for human rights there”

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A.Parshev: “The territorial integrity of Ukraine depends on respect for human rights there”The head of the Russian state, Vladimir Putin, spoke in the Kremlin before the deputies of the State Duma, members of the Federation Council, heads of Russian regions and representatives of civil society with an appeal about the reunification of our country with Crimea.


The President said that we are not always aware

Putin said what was expected of him, and this is the most important point of his speech. It was clearly stated that the Crimea is Russian land and that its accession meets all democratic norms. Reference was made to the norms on the basis of which both Ukraine and the United States were created. This is the right move that knocks out. weapon have bona fide opponents. And for unscrupulous opponents need a little different conversation.

The President said that we are not always aware. That is, the crisis situation itself is not local in nature, but is the result of the redistribution of forces in the world. We are on the same side with India and China, and they supported us in this situation. This is very important to us.

I believe that Putin in his speech revealed what he rarely does. He recalled 1999 the year when NATO forces bombed the European capital, Belgrade, for several weeks in a row. We then experienced a real shock, although a few years later those events were somewhat forgotten. So now we have remembered this, and what is happening in our days is connected with what happened in 1999 year. Vladimir Putin emphasized this moment, and this is an essential part of his speech, which shows what kind of world we ended up after the collapse of the USSR. It was no coincidence that it was said that the spring is already compressed against the stop, and therefore it opens up. Putin emphasized this aspect, and I pay special attention to this episode.

Bandera power in any case will not hold

I note that, despite the return of the Crimea to Russia, Putin is a supporter of the territorial integrity of Ukraine. He is not determined to separate the eastern regions from Ukraine, this is not among his goals. He says that the Bandera power in any case will not hold, but we are not striving to ensure that only Bandera reserve in its west remains from Ukraine.

At the same time, at the referendum in Crimea, the question was raised clearly: either there or here. This contrasts with what is happening in other regions of Ukraine. In some areas, people’s meetings are held there, but people don’t articulate clearly what they want. They put forward certain conditions to the government of Ukraine, but it is not clear to which government specifically it is proposed to fulfill. They voiced various ideas on how to improve this government, but what does Russia have to do with it? The underlined description of the Crimean resoluteness is a significant moment in Putin’s speech.

By the way, although Putin did not directly demand an end to repressions in the eastern regions, it was implicitly read between the lines in his speech. The guarantee of the territorial integrity of Ukraine is that it pursues a humane policy. That is, it was territorial integrity that was made dependent on the observance of human rights and the like.
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  1. paul72
    paul72 20 March 2014 18: 49
    +18
    The territorial integrity of Ukraine depends on the observance of human rights there.

    I would say - from the observance of Russian rights there
    1. gfs84
      gfs84 20 March 2014 19: 04
      +10
      I would say - from the observance of Russian rights there


      You are right, but I think Hungarians and Romanians and Poles will take advantage of this situation to protect the rights of their citizens under the "guise" ...

      But the rights of the "maydanutyh" will be protected by the Maidan, well, something like this:

      The National Security and Defense Council (NSDC) of Ukraine expressed dissatisfaction with the position of Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk on the introduction of a visa regime with Russia. NSDC Secretary Andrei Parubiy and a number of other members are “extremely annoyed” by the Prime Minister’s reaction to the Council’s decision and intend to "bring him to his senses", said on condition of anonymity one of the deputies of the Verkhovna Rada. According to him, even a proposal was made "Bring Yatsenyuk to the Maidan for a report"reports ITAR-TASS.

      http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2434098

      I'm wondering if they will "lecture" him in turn, or will they arrange a group "reprimand"? ...)))
      1. sv68
        sv68 20 March 2014 20: 07
        +1
        Maidan from yatsenyuha leave only yay
      2. sv68
        sv68 20 March 2014 20: 07
        0
        Maidan from yatsenyuha leave only yay
        1. teascher
          teascher 20 March 2014 20: 24
          +1
          Not yay, but rather yy.
          1. Mature naturalist
            Mature naturalist 20 March 2014 21: 26
            +8
            Just prophetic words:

      3. dmitriygorshkov
        dmitriygorshkov 20 March 2014 20: 34
        +4
        Quote: gfs84
        I'm wondering if they will "lecture" him in turn, or will they arrange a group "reprimand"? ...)))

        Please vote!
        I am for the group! And repeated!
        1. AlexxxNik
          AlexxxNik 21 March 2014 04: 32
          0
          Quote: dmitriygorshkov
          I am for the group! And repeated!

          I, too, only without my participation, I am old-fashioned, I prefer women)))
      4. inkass_98
        inkass_98 21 March 2014 08: 20
        0
        Quote: gfs84
        You are right, but I think Hungarians and Romanians and Poles will take advantage of this situation to protect the rights of their citizens under the "guise" ...

        It was precisely those who you didn’t mention that took advantage of - about 60 families of Czechs from the memory applied to the Czech government for asylum because of a threat to their lives. The process is on.
    2. Tumbleweed
      Tumbleweed 20 March 2014 19: 05
      +7
      Quote: paul72
      The territorial integrity of Ukraine depends on the observance of human rights there.

      I understand that for the majority of Ukrainians I will sprinkle a fresh wound with salt, but still I will express myself: In my opinion, the territorial integrity of Ukraine no longer depends on anything and does not depend on anyone ... hi
      The huntyats themselves rock the boat, which has already almost sunk. The last trick with the exit from the CIS is generally something, however, in the CIS there is certainly no place for a "dependent sub-state". winked
      We are waiting for the formation of columns of trucks at the entrance to Russia (rehearsal was already).
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 20 March 2014 19: 19
        +3
        the spring is already fully compressed, and therefore it is unclenched.
        And besides with acceleration ..
        1. jjj
          jjj 20 March 2014 19: 34
          +1
          And no one will ever tell what is being done, how is being done, and when is being done. Catch up more fog, and there everything goes as it should
      2. Ascetic
        Ascetic 20 March 2014 19: 42
        +9
        Quote: tumbleweed
        We are waiting for the formation of columns of trucks at the entrance to Russia (rehearsal was already).


        But don’t have to wait. She already has her at the border in the Belgorod region. crying
        A column of trucks on the border of Kharkov and Belgorod regions. From midnight, people cannot cross the border. They say problems at customs. Which ones - no one explains.

        link

        And more news.
        The accounts of the Ukrainian confectionery corporation Roshen in Russia are arrested
        According to the head of the production department of the plant, the reason for the temporary stoppage of production was a litigation with Moscow confectioners over the "Swallow Song" candy. However, representatives of Roshen believe that the whole point is in the activities of the head of the corporation, Ukrainian politician Petro Poroshenko, whom some Ukrainian media call one of the contenders for the presidency of Ukraine.
        The Lipetsk enterprise is part of the Ukrainian confectionery company Roshen, controlled by the structures of the Ukrainian dollar billionaire Petro Poroshenko. The businessman is considered one of the sponsors of Euromaidan.
        Three weeks earlier, at the time of the aggravation of the situation in Crimea, Poroshenko arrived in Simferopol as a representative of the new Ukrainian authorities to meet with the deputies of the Supreme Soviet of the republic. However, the locals greeted him unfriendly and shouting "Get out of the Crimea!" showered with pieces of paper. As a result, the billionaire was forced to leave the scene by taxi.
        Lipetsk riot police blocked the factory of the alleged sponsor Euromaidan Poroshenko
        1. Tumbleweed
          Tumbleweed 20 March 2014 19: 51
          +7
          Quote: Ascetic
          But don’t have to wait. She already has her at the border in the Belgorod region. A column of trucks on the border of Kharkov and Belgorod regions. From midnight, people cannot cross the border. They say problems at customs. Which ones - no one explains.


          The junters simply do not yet know that each word uttered has weight, and sometimes one piece of news can crash the markets. Customs just explains everything
          The traffic on the border with Ukraine was temporarily limited

          20 March 2014, 19: 32

          Vehicle traffic on sections of the Russian-Ukrainian state border is temporarily limited, the FSB Public Relations Center said on Wednesday.

          “The border service of the FSB of Russia reports that in connection with the prevailing situation on the Belgorod and Voronezh sections of the Russian-Ukrainian state border, a decision was made to temporarily restrict traffic through existing border crossing points (local border crossing points) of vehicles ”, - stated in a statement on the website of the department.


          The accounts of the Ukrainian confectionery corporation Roshen in Russia are arrested

          Finally, ours understood the most painful place of the oligarchs and began to beat him? Is this Cyprus experience interesting? laughing
          1. Ascetic
            Ascetic 20 March 2014 20: 05
            +15
            Quote: tumbleweed
            It’s just that the juntas don’t yet know that every word spoken has weight,


            Another question about the integrity of Ukraine. A little such a stroke. But indicative ..
            A resident of Donetsk with a Russian tricolor on the windshield was stopped by a policeman. Watch starting at 3:00. Was sent to a well-known address and, moreover, is referred to as a "citizen of Kiev" lol



            Soon there will be another referendum. Yes, not one. And then. As they say, language (voice of the people) will bring to Kiev.
            1. flc9800
              flc9800 20 March 2014 20: 13
              +3
              Come along, b-! good
        2. jjj
          jjj 20 March 2014 20: 03
          +2
          And in Vinnitsa, the Maidan took the Nemiroff plant by storm. Very symbolic
          1. Tumbleweed
            Tumbleweed 20 March 2014 20: 09
            +3
            Quote: jjj
            And in Vinnitsa, the Maidan took the Nemiroff plant by storm. Very symbolic

            That’s why you are so? stop
            In Vinnitsa, a self-educated armed unit of the People's Guard took under protection a strategic object - the Nemiroff distillery. Here's how laughing
            I think soon such news will pour in one after another. There are few strategic objects, but there are many National Guard, and therefore "news from the fields" will be ... Russia took place in the 90s, now everything is settled down. In Ukraine, another redistribution of places at the troughs, and this is not complete without shooting hi
          2. RUS33
            RUS33 20 March 2014 21: 33
            +1
            And in Vinnitsa, the Maidan took the Nemiroff plant by storm. Very symbolic
            Now we also need to take some cannery.
            And there, Maidan will not be needed.
            1. Setrac
              Setrac 20 March 2014 21: 54
              +1
              Quote: RUS33
              Now we also need to take some cannery.

              To the conservatory.
            2. VNP1958PVN
              VNP1958PVN 21 March 2014 02: 46
              +1
              They have enough cucumbers, but they are also noiseless without Nemirov ...
            3. inkass_98
              inkass_98 21 March 2014 08: 32
              0
              Quote: RUS33
              Now we also need to take some cannery.

              You can take something, then what to eat? Well, you can eat for a while what was lying around in the finished goods warehouse, and then what - tin bite from another warehouse? Suppliers will quickly figure out what's what.
        3. v53993
          v53993 20 March 2014 20: 15
          +1
          "What am I to eat all this myself?"
          Why alone? Share with Yatsenyuk, Turchinov, Klitschko. And do not forget about the lady (Yulia Tymoshenko).
      3. inkass_98
        inkass_98 21 March 2014 08: 28
        0
        Quote: tumbleweed
        The last feint with the exit from the CIS is generally something, however, in the CIS there is certainly no place for a "dependent sub-state"

        I will voice one moment related to the withdrawal from the CIS, which was not quite obvious to the Panamas from the new Vlada, since they lacked intelligence a little - a completely different customs regime for the countries of the Near and Far Abroad (i.e., those included and not included in the CIS). Why buy Ukrainian metal and other products in Russia? Because there are low import duties that allow the products of Ukrainian manufacturers to compete with our goods. An increase in import duties to the level expected for goods from non-CIS countries will make them prohibitive, i.e. goods will become absolutely uncompetitive, which will further "help" the prosperity of the Ukrainian economy. The impression is that these new managers did not even graduate from high school, and smoked textbooks in the toilet.
    3. de klermon
      de klermon 20 March 2014 20: 24
      +1
      Not just right, but very right, but ... This has been obvious for a very long time!
      I am ready to repeat what I wrote on "VO" back on March 7th: the only way for Yarosh and his gang to fight for the unity of Ukraine is to disarm and surrender to some tribunal, which is guaranteed to put them in prison for a long time! Although...
      Where can I just find such a tribunal? ..
      1. inkass_98
        inkass_98 21 March 2014 08: 34
        0
        Quote: de Klermon
        Where can I just find such a tribunal? ..

        Yes, welcome, it’s easy to organize with us, just there will be no problems with further stay in places of life imprisonment, we need to master Siberia.
    4. a52333
      a52333 20 March 2014 20: 57
      +4
      The Nazi at the very beginning can, of course, argue that his hatred is directed against a particular nation. It's just like a descent from a mountain, a step, and you roll to the bottom.
      I remember how in the 89, the Uzbeks said: you don’t have to worry, we will only expel the Meskhetians and Turks.
      It is worth telling what happened afterwards?
      Now ask Yandex how many nationalities live in Ukraine.
      I hope you don’t think that after the Russians are slaughtered, they will kiss the Crimean Tatars, Jews or Greeks in the gums?
    5. APASUS
      APASUS 20 March 2014 21: 00
      +3
      Quote: paul72
      I would say - from the observance of Russian rights there

      Why Russian?
      There already 280 families of Czechs are moving to their historical homeland. After reading, the Hungarians form groups of polite people. The Jews spoke out unequivocally, there is a threat to the Jewish population.
    6. Dobrynya72
      Dobrynya72 21 March 2014 01: 16
      -5
      Dear friend! I live in the center of Ukraine, I speak, read and think in Russian. The whole city where I live speaks both languages ​​-FREE, there are Russian and Ukrainian schools. And our question never arose: Who are you? My Homeland is Ukraine, and I really want it to be united and free. My father is from Don, my mother is from Ukraine, and if I hadn’t liked anything, I would have written to the Russian Embassy and applied for citizenship (not asylum), but I would have been nervous about this country. Are We Reached? In the United States, children of children adopted in Russia are killed, how do you have their rights? You can say a lot, but if you lived in Ukraine, you would say that GDP did as ... Language, rights are just an excuse.
      1. Bakht
        Bakht 21 March 2014 02: 39
        +5
        Quote: Dobrynya72

        Dear friend. I do not live in Russia. I live in Azerbaijan. Just politics is my hobby. Or a second life. Therefore, I am sitting on this site. My country has almost the same problem. And the mass is inadequate in politics and journalism. And my interest in the events in Ukraine is still quite utilitarian. Because the events in Ukraine indirectly hit Azerbaijan.

        And now about your message. I watch the news, read the media. In Russian and English. So I also know a little western interpretation of events. You are wrong in the main. In Ukraine, the Nazis came to power. In your country, gangster lawlessness. And he continues. And in the leadership are complete Nazis and chauvinists.

        What has it got to do with it? If Turchynov and Yetsenyuk from the first days would not have dealt with linguistic laws, would not have revived Nazi propaganda and would have given the right to the regions to choose their own governors, would Ukraine be torn apart now? If they gave the oligarchs a hand, and would not appoint them governors, then I would understand you. For 23 years, Ukraine suited everyone around. And only now something has changed. What does Putin or someone else have to do with it? Blame your leaders. Today I read that policemen have been beaten up in Kiev, Czechs are leaving. Jews are going to leave (this is no longer the media. I have many friends in Israel). Russians are asking to go to Russia. Do you think this suggests that Putin is a scoundrel? Maybe you need to look in the mirror? Why are small nations breaking out of Ukraine? What's wrong there? I will tell you the bitter truth. The Nazis are in power in your country. That's the whole problem.

        Take them away yourself, as a patriot of your country and no one will come to you.

        Do you like your country? It is your right and your choice. Stay in Ukraine. You agree with your leaders. But the problem is that most citizens of Ukraine do not like such a country.
        --------------
        PS In 1942, in October, a division under the command of Colonel Batyuk was bleeding in Stalingrad. Batyuk a young Ukrainian guy was sick so that at times he could not walk. The orderly carried him on his back. But he fought for his homeland. On the banks of the Volga - the great Russian river. He probably would not understand why the Nazis march along the streets of Ukrainian cities. And you also would not understand. As a patriot of Ukraine, Colonel Batyuk would not understand you.

        It is your right to choose: stay in the country or leave. But try to understand why your neighbors are leaving.
        1. Bakht
          Bakht 21 March 2014 02: 52
          +2
          In addition to the previous post. I have been studying the history of the Second World War for many years (practically all my life). Of all the books I have read, I single out Utkin's book "World War II". And I always recommend it to everyone. It cannot serve as a textbook. It contains a lot of factual errors, dates and part numbers are incorrect. But in terms of psychological intensity, I have never met a book stronger. It must be read. I just remembered Batyuk in the previous message and decided to cite the entire passage.

          Help, as always, came from the Volga. Early in the morning of September 23, the 284th infantry division of Colonel Batyuk (Siberians) crossed over to the 62nd Army. The Germans launched light parachutes to see who else had embarked on a mortal path.

          The arrival of this division prevented German movement parallel to the river. Batyuk is a handsome Ukrainian of medium height, slender, dark-haired, suffered from a serious illness associated with blood flow defects. He periodically suffered so terribly that he could not go and the soldier carried his commander, but he did it only at night - Batyuk would never have shown his weakness before the formation. Batiuk, a Ukrainian guy, fought for his homeland and there was no power to stop him in this fight. Like Rodimtsev earlier, he arrived at the right hour — the situation was below critical.
          The history of Russia is the history of the mixing of nations and nationalities.

          The name Rus itself speaks of Scandinavian roots. Slavs, Finno-Ugric peoples, Turkic peoples - only a cruel and treacherous enemy could try to quarrel, to break this unity, it was plagued by incredible blood. Even the recount of geniuses in a single wreath of a single country is inappropriate. We lived a thousand-year shared history, and this common road brought us together, made the whole family of historically united and mixed peoples united. And the Ukrainian Batyuk, overcoming mortal torment, biting his lips, stood in a single system, which makes us all invincible. He, his descendants and relatives own our country by the greatest right. Stalingrad once again in the most obvious way merged our blood, our history, our psychological perception of the world, our future. It would be a sacrilege to forget our common experience for the sake of the treacherous sirens of separatism.
        2. Dobrynya72
          Dobrynya72 21 March 2014 04: 29
          -2
          Thanks sincerely for your reply! Your opinion is very important to me, of course I don’t quite agree, but for this God has given us communication. The tragedy of my people is that political power that has rotted to the bone and has built the same state system (from the top to the very bottom). And each new power is its servant. It is a tragedy of mine and my people. I’m far from politics and I don’t understand it like you, but I like my country, I don’t like the political system that we have, where some bandits replace others. Yushchenko is a protege of the West, Yanukovych-Moscow. These are again the West (USA, etc.). Putin understood that if he managed to block Yushchenko and Ukraine remained non-aligned, now the West has put forward its more determined and cynical proteges. And this means a complete change in the orientation of the country, and this means a complete loss of the southern strategic direction (Sevastopol). FULL! And language is only an occasion, as is the protection of the Russian population. For some reason, I recalled the words: Anschluss, Gdansk. Protecting the language, population, sending troops and what was the main goal ... You say that your country also has a lot of problems, and now imagine that Turkey and Russia would suddenly want to play the “adult” Azerbaijan card? Which side would you like to to borrow? It’s a pity that there is no hot, fragrant tea between us now
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  2. moremansf
    moremansf 20 March 2014 18: 50
    +6
    Everything is in the hands of the people, their choice will be decisive in the further development of events in Ukraine ...
  3. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam 20 March 2014 18: 51
    +4
    Yes, now they will explain to us what GDP wanted to say. To those who do not understand. laughing
    although Putin did not directly demand that the repressions in the eastern regions be stopped, it was implicitly read between the lines in his speech


    He is not determined to separate eastern regions from Ukraine; this is not among his goals.

    Of course, the author Andrei Parshev knows exactly what is going on in the head of GDP. Funny
    1. Bakht
      Bakht 20 March 2014 19: 14
      +5
      Quote: MainBeam
      Of course, the author Andrei Parshev knows exactly what is going on in the head of GDP. Funny

      Regardless of what is going on in Putin’s head, or of what Parshev knows, the eastern regions of Ukraine will be annexed to Russia only as a last resort. In the event of the complete collapse of the Ukrainian state and outright banditry. But in no case before.

      It’s completely clear to me personally that in the current conditions the West can achieve even a draw, only in the event of the collapse of Ukraine. This is not in Russia's interests.
  4. konvalval
    konvalval 20 March 2014 18: 53
    +12
    I listened with great attention to GDP. I have not heard a single word, under which I will not subscribe. It has long been expected of him such a promise to the west. And I think that they heard and backed away both in speeches and in deeds.
  5. alex47russ
    alex47russ 20 March 2014 19: 06
    +4
    Quote: paul72
    I would say - from the observance of Russian rights there

    I AGREE! IF THE BEAR IS ALARMED, HE WILL BIT OFF THE HEAD!
  6. smart75
    smart75 20 March 2014 19: 06
    +3
    - Why is Russia not America?
    - Because power is not in money, but in truth.
    (A. Parshev - A. Balabanov)
    1. storog.cccp
      storog.cccp 20 March 2014 19: 27
      0
      Tooting!!!:)
  7. andrei332809
    andrei332809 20 March 2014 19: 07
    +15
    I didn’t finish the academies, especially with a political bias, so I see the situevina like this - for two months the eggheads are still sitting in Kiev, then the Banderlog overgrown with weapons will kick them out. They will take their place. for another six months the ukraine will have enough patience. and since the West will not give money, then in half a year the Banderlog will support their power only by terror. but you cannot be afraid forever, and the people will start simply to destroy these very Banderlog. those will wash away from despair into the lion, where they will still be strongly supported, hoping for Europe. there will be a division, but so far without a border. Banderlog will start knocking on Euro doors to be sheltered in any status. but since the Europeans themselves do not need gangs of armed bondyugs, they will be given a turn from the gate. and then it will be necessary to conduct anti-terrorist operations on the territory of Ukraine, and the new authorities of Kiev will probably ask Moscow to help. but the further fate of ukraine is a mystery to me - will the new authorities want "nezalezhnosti" to shudder again from the plans of the West and the Yankes, or will they go to Moscow as autonomy request
    1. yur
      yur 20 March 2014 19: 31
      +2
      Quote: andrei332809
      startle from the plans of the West and the Yankees, or go to Moscow as autonomy
      If suddenly this happens, then NO autonomy. Only ordinary subjects of the federation, like Crimea and Sevastopol.
    2. vlum
      vlum 20 March 2014 19: 35
      +1
      It is very easy not to guess with the timing. For some reason, everything, everyone is somewhere in a hurry.
      But the scale of the anti-terror operation may turn out to be very large. I don’t own statistics, but it will be comparable with Syria, as it seems to me.

      And at the same time, measures of economic war are not canceled at all.

      Local sabotage operations and anti-terror regime. And the permanent global first world economic war.
    3. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov 20 March 2014 20: 52
      +3
      Quote: andrei332809
      will go to Moscow as autonomy

      The words "near Moscow" really humiliated me! Friends, let's not belittle and insult anyone!
      The composition of the Russian Federation as a subject (s).
      Really better ?! smile
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 20 March 2014 20: 55
        +1
        Quote: dmitriygorshkov
        The words "near Moscow" really conquered me!

        how did Alexy the first, the guardian of the Russian land, say? collect the circle of Moscow. for Moscow everyone live fatter.
        so I think we should return to the same capital. and we are all under her control request so call me, but didn’t understand WHAT exactly what
      2. Setrac
        Setrac 20 March 2014 22: 00
        +1
        Quote: dmitriygorshkov
        The words "near Moscow" really greatly conquered me!

        In vain it jarred. The Battle of Moscow is not a bed scene at all. And the phrase "walking by the arm of Moscow" is not a call for sex.
        1. dmitriygorshkov
          dmitriygorshkov 21 March 2014 07: 14
          0
          Quote: Setrac

          In vain it jarred. The Battle of Moscow is not a bed scene at all. And the phrase "walking by the arm of Moscow" is not a call for sex.

          Have you learned how to pull phrases out of context from your opponents?
          He is about RESPECT, and he is bed scenes!
          Your associations are strange, but I'm not a doctor!
      3. Nick
        Nick 21 March 2014 00: 00
        +1
        Quote: dmitriygorshkov
        Let's not belittle anyone and insult anyone!
        The composition of the Russian Federation as a subject (s).
        Really better ?!

        Absolutely correct! In general, respect must be shown even to the enemy.
  8. mamont5
    mamont5 20 March 2014 19: 07
    +1
    Let's look at the elections in Ukraine. If nothing extraordinary happens to them.
  9. Gagarin
    Gagarin 20 March 2014 19: 08
    +14
    I’ll run into minuses, but I’ll say, I don’t believe that western Ukraine can now peacefully coexist further with eastern and even more so with Russia, a medical case like gangrene - greenback will not help.
    1. mountain
      mountain 20 March 2014 19: 19
      +2
      And, I would say differently, Russia will not tolerate next to itself, the fascist junta and that everything will become part of Russia, without compromise.
    2. storog.cccp
      storog.cccp 20 March 2014 19: 41
      +6
      In Russian, "in Ukraine, in the Caucasus, in the Urals" are geographical names, as opposed to "in Russia, in the United States and even in Lithuania, Latvia, in Papua New Guinea" - the name of states. The great and mighty himself tells us that Ukraine is not a country, but a place on the globe.
      1. Vyacheslav 64
        Vyacheslav 64 20 March 2014 23: 59
        0
        In Russian, "in Ukraine, in the Caucasus, in the Urals" are geographical names, as opposed to "in Russia, in the United States and even in Lithuania, Latvia, in Papua New Guinea" - the name of states. The great and mighty himself tells us that Ukraine is not a country, but a place on the globe.


        Many years ago, the great Taras Shevchenko answered this question.
        In one of his works he wrote that he asked to be buried.
        In Ukraine!
  10. super-vitek
    super-vitek 20 March 2014 19: 08
    +2
    I agree that the authorities in Europe and in the West have become a threat. But the worst thing is that the people of Ukraine as zombies keep repeating that they are capturing us, the Russian occupier !!! At the same time trusting the Nazi junta !!!! We are losing the information war !!!
    1. Sergh
      Sergh 20 March 2014 20: 01
      +2
      Quote: super-vitek
      We are losing the information war

      Yesterday I read komenty on Ukrainian sites for about two hours, so locals say that Yaytsevnyukh turned off all cable, limited the Internet, well, television and radio by themselves broadcasting a Russian channel. In practice, it’s even forbidden to secretly watch Russian channels and information on a plate. In short, no information has been received from Russia.
      1. sv68
        sv68 20 March 2014 20: 14
        +2
        in this way, she wants that on all channels of Ukraine only his rabbit mug was shown 24 hours a day
      2. Ascetic
        Ascetic 20 March 2014 20: 28
        +1
        Quote: Sergh
        . In practice, it’s even forbidden to secretly watch Russian channels and information on a plate. In short, no information has been received from Russia.


        Two dozen deputies and militants of the nationalist party "Svoboda" were severely beaten and forced to write a letter about the resignation of the director general of the National Television Company of Ukraine (NTU) and the First National TV channel Alexander Panteleimonov.
        Deputy Igor Miroshnichenko and a well-known Russian actor Bogdan Benyuk - outside the creative life of the deputy of "Svoboda" - asked Panteleimonov why "First National" (former UT-1 channel) broadcast the signing of the act on the acceptance of Crimea into Russia, and why "falsely covered our revolution. " The attempts of the general director to explain something about the status of the national TV and radio company did not reach the minds of the deputies. Then the deputy Miroshnichenko, as well as Benyuk, who joined the Sabbath, and the ideologist of "Svoboda" Andrei Ilyenko, began to methodically beat the editor-in-chief - they strangled him and beat him in the face.
        The live interrogation continued in the courtyard of the television center. The nationalists were interested in who was in charge of the information policy of the First National. Panteleimonov obviously found it hard to speak: his face was swollen, but they demanded surnames from him. “Speak, or we'll go to the Maidan. You’ll talk there,” threatened the enraged Miroshnichenko, formerly a sports commentator and now the party curator of football ultras. In the end, Panteleimonov was pushed into a jeep and taken away in an unknown direction.
        Miroshnichenko later stated that Panteleimonov was released and that he wrote a letter of resignation voluntarily, without physical coercion. However, twelve hours after the incident, the head of the NTU did not get in touch with colleagues.
        link

    2. Anper
      Anper 20 March 2014 20: 11
      +1
      Quote: super-vitek
      captures us, the Russian occupier !!

      What are you! He’s not only capturing, he is torturing! Yes, military commissariats are not weak in Crimea - tortured hostages on electric chairs! And they pity Maidanites (direct speech) probably because they are pensioners. And all on the news on Inter, and everything is eaten under the sighs of horror and suffering.
  11. Bakht
    Bakht 20 March 2014 19: 11
    +6
    The territorial integrity of Ukraine must be respected. The gap in Ukraine looks easy and promising. But in reality, from the point of view of geopolitics, the gap between Ukraine will turn into a defeat for Russia. I already wrote. The bonus in the form of territory and population does not compensate for the costs of Western Ukraine joining NATO. Discarding emotions, it turns out that NATO has expanded east. And the front line will pass along the Dnieper. This will be a strategic defeat. And the victory of NATO, since the missile base can be located already near Kiev.

    So the power in Kiev must be extinguished. And put there at least for the time of Yanukovych. And you need to maintain a neutral Ukraine. Non-block. The partition of Ukraine can be considered as the most extreme and very undesirable measure.

    It is necessary to put pressure on promises of help in exchange for stabilizing the situation and disarming the gangs. Well, of course, on the federalization of the country. In this regard, the plan proposed by the Russian Foreign Ministry looks like the only right decision. The trouble is that in Kiev this has not yet been realized.
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    2. storog.cccp
      storog.cccp 20 March 2014 19: 50
      +2
      The logic of the events of the last 20 years led to the fact that the NATO base would have been in our place in Sevastopol. For this section on the Dnieper is not the worst option.
      1. Bakht
        Bakht 20 March 2014 19: 58
        +4
        Quote: storog.cccp
        For this section on the Dnieper is not the worst option.

        But not the best. This is for the most extreme case.
    3. Sergh
      Sergh 20 March 2014 20: 09
      +3
      Quote: Bakht
      The gap in Ukraine looks easy and promising

      Somewhere I already read it somewhere. Are you talking about Yanukovych seriously or is this someone’s quote?
      Quote: Bakht
      It is necessary to put pressure on the promises of assistance in exchange for stabilizing the situation and disarming the gangs

      Oh, how can they still rub the shop for thanks? Did you understand what you said?
      1. Bakht
        Bakht 20 March 2014 21: 10
        +2
        I usually write seriously. I understand everything that I am writing. They usually understand me too.

        But if they don’t understand, then there’s nothing to be done. I have not been arguing with anyone for a long time.
    4. Mature naturalist
      Mature naturalist 20 March 2014 21: 34
      +2
      Quote: Bakht
      And the front line will pass along the Dnieper

      Well, not along the Dnieper, but significantly westward.
      And they will choose a woman with a scythe - she suits everyone.
      New Russia and Little Russia will be oriented to Russia, and Bandera to the geyropu.

      And before that, the Eastern Russians and Ukrainians will have to endure until the whole of Ukraine slurps on with a full spoon and the desire for self-sufficiency passes, and, conversely, until they come to understand that Russian help is needed.
    5. Dobrynya72
      Dobrynya72 21 March 2014 01: 45
      -3
      Thank you for leaving integrity at least. In fact, we were all these times. By what right do you draw borders, decide who to extinguish and whom to return, how do we breathe and what to think about? Once in the 41st Hitler tried to do this, our grandfathers fought shoulder to shoulder and defended the right to decide it themselves. And now what: YOU RUSSIANS DECIDE HOW TO LIVE FOR US ???????? PS Imagine yourself a UKRAINIAN. Now those who pitted our peoples are sitting and drinking champagne, and we ...........
  12. loginovich
    loginovich 20 March 2014 19: 12
    +4
    It seems to me that territorial integrity is now least dependent on the Ukrainians. Whether we will or will not respect the rights in high offices will not look at it. Today's Ukraine is a territory controlled from the outside. And poorly managed. If this comes to an agreement from the outside, it will be so.
    1. Sergh
      Sergh 20 March 2014 20: 11
      +1
      Quote: loginovich
      Today's Ukraine is a territory governed from outside. And poorly managed. If someone from outside comes to an agreement

      Well, golden words, there are sensible and competent people who understand the situation.
    2. Dobrynya72
      Dobrynya72 21 March 2014 02: 01
      -1
      But it seems to me that Moscow, oh how famously succeeds in this. And how do you like to be a Ukrainian in your own land, for which everyone and everyone has decided. I have not investigated, but I wonder how many Ukrainians are divided and dominated in relation to Russia and the Russian people.
  13. infinite silence ...
    infinite silence ... 20 March 2014 19: 20
    +7
    territorial integrity was made dependent on respect for human rights


    Rights? Beating the directors of TV channels? in those sitting behind bars, WITHOUT RIGHT TO LAWYER - leaders? the impossibility of expressing one’s position so as not to be sent there?

    One can already forget about human rights in Ukraine! ... And all these demonstrative and eyewash "trials" with the guilty are nothing but profanation! The "government" lying from head to toe, which sold the country for a packet of cookies, is unable to understand what it has done!
    The East cannot do without the help of Russia!
    1. infinite silence ...
      infinite silence ... 20 March 2014 19: 23
      +3


      Here is the human right? ... Why under the Donetsk region? The answer is not clear?
      1. Anper
        Anper 20 March 2014 20: 20
        +1
        Quote: infinite silence ...
        . Why under the Donetsk region?

        Something was never in the Donetsk region of houses with Hutsul roofs, as with 0.40 show.
        1. infinite silence ...
          infinite silence ... 20 March 2014 21: 37
          0
          This is the Dnipropetrovsk region
      2. Trofimov Andrey
        Trofimov Andrey 20 March 2014 21: 01
        0
        The host really liked ...
      3. dmikras
        dmikras 20 March 2014 21: 56
        0
        interesting is that the military speak only Russian
  14. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 20 March 2014 19: 26
    0
    The fact that now the Banderites are unpunished in Ukraine, and the United States with gayrope pretend that "everything is in order in Baghdad," suggests that the friends of the extremists have one goal - to unleash a civil war in Ukraine, since such a mess cannot be tolerated for a long time , people will begin to defend themselves ...
  15. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov 20 March 2014 19: 28
    +3
    Unfortunately, the territorial integrity of Ukraine depends on the Natsyk tires that breathe in smoke.
  16. Donskoi
    Donskoi 20 March 2014 19: 31
    +1
    The game is "on the nerves". Or the federalization of Ukraine with a second language, Russian, etc. or long live the long-forgotten ZUNR.
    But who will pass the first nerves? Do GDP? I doubt very much laughing
  17. Bakht
    Bakht 20 March 2014 19: 44
    +9
    If the "eastern kresy" retreat to Poland, then the Polish army will extinguish the Banderaites. With the full support of all Poles. They will remember Volhynia. And they will extinguish it without regard to "human rights". They will simply say that "rights" refer to people, not to bandits. Perhaps this is also an option. If two "sworn friends" Poland and Russia tear Ukraine apart, then you can get a draw. For all their Russophobia, there are sane politicians in Warsaw. And the entire territory of Poland is viewed by Iskander from the territory of Kaliningrad. The medical history of Poles is well known and studied. And predictable. Bandera's disease cannot be cured. Only with lead gadgets.

    It’s hard to say what will happen. But (I repeat again) Russia will achieve complete victory if all (namely ALL) Ukraine remains a single non-aligned state. With sane government.

    PS When I say EVERYTHING, I mean that Ukraine will NEVER see the Crimea.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 21 March 2014 00: 43
      +1
      Quote: Bakht
      For all its Russophobia, sane politicians sit in Warsaw.

      Well, by golly, you flatter them. What sanity can explain the pronounced pro-American orientation of Polish politics? Vice President Biden among the Poles as the most beloved uncle.
      Quote: Bakht
      If two "sworn friends" Poland and Russia tear Ukraine apart, then you can get a draw.

      If only the Phashington Regional Committee orders. But this is unlikely ...
      Quote: Bakht
      Russia will achieve complete victory if all (namely ALL) Ukraine remains a single non-aligned state. With sane government.

      A divided Ukraine is not needed by anyone. And first of all to the Ukrainians. The "non-aligned" proclaimed in 2010 is a compromise between the West and Russia. But the West was not happy with this compromise.
  18. siberalt
    siberalt 20 March 2014 19: 50
    0
    Thinking article. There is a natural right, but there is a written state. The latter is only a reflection in the first part concerning the protective and unifying function. The prevalence of legal law over natural kills a person and turns a person into a slave, but not a creator. The divine principle is usurped by religion and the state, and the muscles and bones remaining from a person work on them as a function for enriching the initiates.
  19. AleksPol
    AleksPol 20 March 2014 20: 09
    +2
    Now, to cross the border with Ukraine, the Russians need to have $ 600 in cash. Is that for guaranteed robbery or what? In general, the maydauns blew the roof
    1. Tumbleweed
      Tumbleweed 20 March 2014 20: 14
      +2
      Quote: AleksPol
      Now, to cross the border with Ukraine, the Russians need to have $ 600 in cash.

      Forgot to add that you still need to tell the route and the address where you are going to stay ...
      Looks like yes
      Quote: AleksPol
      . Is that for guaranteed robbery or what?
      1. AleksPol
        AleksPol 20 March 2014 20: 18
        +2
        As for the route and address, is this not a joke?
        1. Tumbleweed
          Tumbleweed 20 March 2014 20: 22
          0
          Quote: AleksPol
          As for the route and address, is this not a joke?


          No no joke

          With the Russians at the entrance to Ukraine they began to demand to present no more than 600 dollars

          19 March 2014, 17: 42

          The Ukrainian side at the entrance from a Russian citizen requires the presentation of at least 600 dollars, said on Wednesday the head of the department of the Ministry of Internal and Information Policy of the Rostov region Alexander Titov.

          According to him, also a Russian citizen needs to talk about the purpose of the trip, the route of movement in Ukraine and the place of residencereports ITAR-TASS.


          Taken here http://vz.ru/news/2014/3/19/677981.html
    2. vladstro
      vladstro 20 March 2014 21: 39
      +1
      Yeah, and where else should they collect money for their superarmy, although these will be safely plundered.
    3. dmikras
      dmikras 20 March 2014 21: 59
      0
      better military ID
  20. Oleg Sobol
    Oleg Sobol 20 March 2014 20: 42
    +2
    Putin said what everyone expected from him, and this is the most important moment of his speech.
    Deflection is not counted. Putin said that which he himself was personally convinced of, and what the people were waiting for, for the most part in Russia and the Crimea, but not all of this was expected in the elite and business. But patted in droves.

    That is, the crisis situation itself is not local in nature, but is the result of a redistribution of forces in the world. We are on the same side as India and China, and they supported us in this situation. This is very important for us.

    We are not on the same side. At the moment, our and their interests are on the same plane. These are slightly different things. And they must be kept in mind.

    I believe that Putin revealed himself in his speech, which he rarely does.
    It is interesting to ask, when did it close? Perhaps it was you who opened up to see Putin's "discovery".

    I note that, despite the return of Crimea to Russia, Putin is a supporter of the territorial integrity of Ukraine. He is not determined to separate eastern regions from Ukraine; this is not among his goals.
    Did he tell you this personally at breakfast? Or are you his confessor? Again, the deflection is not counted.

    By the way, although Putin did not directly demand that the repressions in the eastern regions be stopped, it was implicitly read between the lines in his speech. The guarantee of the territorial integrity of Ukraine is that it pursues a humane policy.
    Dear, the statement of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs that: "Russia is closely following the events in the East of Ukraine and reserves the right ..." Is this for you, was it read between the lines? In this case, it would be nice for you to practice reading the lines in principle ...
    Who at the moment, and indeed in the near future, is able to pursue a humane policy in Ukraine? What are you talking about, dear author?

    Article Minus. As a populist, and clearly pulling on: I am also with you GDP, do not forget, if that ...
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 21 March 2014 00: 48
      +2
      Quote: Oleg Sobol
      I note that, despite the return of Crimea to Russia, Putin is a supporter of the territorial integrity of Ukraine. He is not determined to separate eastern regions from Ukraine; this is not among his goals.
      Did he tell you this personally at breakfast? Or are you his confessor? Again, the deflection is not counted.

      The territorial integrity of Ukraine is not in dispute. Ukraine, as an independent state of Russia, needs everything that is indivisible (after restoring order there).
      PS
      Do not try to seem smarter than you really are. Modesty adorns a person ...
  21. 120352
    120352 20 March 2014 20: 43
    0
    I agree with the meaning of the title. But the content of the concept of "Human Rights" on the territory of Ukraine is far from the same. Hence the impossibility of its territorial integrity. After the return of Crimea to Russia, at least three centers of gravity remained in Ukraine: 1) the fascist-Bandera, created by Austria-Hungary as an anti-Russian one to instill enmity between two parts of one, the Russian people; 2) southeast, transferred to Ukraine by the Bolsheviks for the emergence and formation of its industry in the period from 1924 to 1936. This part of Ukraine never spoke MOV and remembers very well its true Russian roots; 3) the infantile central with Kiev at the head, where everyone has been on the drum for a long time. It is on this drum that Kiev has now received. A common occurrence. It is in such cases that the drum gets hit. Soon, the split into this and three parts will be completed completely. The industrial part will return to Russia if it so desires. The centrally infantile will be exhausted by the constant claims to material and spiritual values ​​on the part of the fascists, and a fuss will begin between them (not a war), and the brave fascists will prefer to get away (the skin is more expensive).
  22. RUS33
    RUS33 20 March 2014 21: 02
    +1
    Quote: dmitriygorshkov
    Quote: gfs84
    I'm wondering if they will "lecture" him in turn, or will they arrange a group "reprimand"? ...)))

    Please vote!
    I am for the group! And repeated!

    ONLINE broadcast !!!!
  23. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 20 March 2014 21: 27
    0
    Quote: paul72
    The territorial integrity of Ukraine depends on the observance of human rights there.

    "Polite people" - "little green men" will strictly monitor this!
  24. Bakht
    Bakht 20 March 2014 21: 28
    0
    Is this interesting or not? Or Julia substitutes Yatsenyuk?

    the link is very interesting

    http://www.pravda.ru/news/world/formerussr/ukraine/20-03-2014/1200946-poland-0/
  25. O_RUS
    O_RUS 20 March 2014 22: 00
    +1
    "Lipetsk riot police blocked the factory of the alleged sponsor of Euromaidan Poroshenko"

    To start a criminal case against Poroshenko for financing fascism. Select a factory.

    "Accounts of the Ukrainian confectionery corporation Roshen in Russia arrested"

    Roshen Corporation Cupboards DO NOT BUY anymore! And Baltic sprats have not eaten for more than 10 years.
  26. Skifo
    Skifo 20 March 2014 22: 02
    0
    There is an opinion that the territorial integrity of Ukraine lies in the hands of the West and Russia ... As agreed ...
  27. SF93
    SF93 20 March 2014 22: 56
    0
    Ukraine is an organism. Without Russians, Ukraine is a cripple without a leg, an arm, an eye, half a tongue, half a brain. And under the current policy of Ukraine's Maidan, Ukraine runs the risk of being left only an ass, into which "Western partners" stuff hot dogs, pierce missile defense and will poke in the direction of Russia.
  28. chinararem
    chinararem 20 March 2014 23: 37
    +2
    Quote: tumbleweed
    In my opinion, the territorial integrity of Ukraine does not depend on anything or on anyone ...

    Maybe in order to have fun and distract from the heat of the last days, we will hang agitations at our porches:
  29. baku1999
    baku1999 20 March 2014 23: 38
    +2
    phrases from the last interview with Slobodan Milosevic, the former president of Yugoslavia: “Russians! I now appeal to all Russians; the inhabitants of Ukraine and Belarus in the Balkans are also considered Russians. Look at us and remember - they will do the same to you when you disconnect and give slack. West - a rabid chain dog clings to your throat. Brothers, remember the fate of Yugoslavia! Do not let me do the same to you! ”
  30. Nasrat
    Nasrat 21 March 2014 01: 35
    0
    Quote: infinite silence ...


    Here is the human right? ... Why under the Donetsk region? The answer is not clear?


    Everything is clear to anyone who served in the normal Army.
    1. Any military unit for defense occupies heights.
    2. When defending, capital, defensive positions unfold (which by the way is not observed in the video)
    3. According to the news of the Ukrainian media and the statements of Kiev politicians, units of the regular army are put forward to defend the state border. (from the border of the Dnepropetrovsk and Donetsk regions to the state border with the Russian Federation at least 200 km) And to Donetsk about 80 km.
    CONCLUSION: Units of the regular army of Ukraine perform POLICE functions to restore order in their own state, with their own people in regions that disagree with the policies of the current government.
    This unit is ready to advance by order to the right point to suppress discontent and possible unrest among the civilian, unarmed population. (For now)
    And do not tell me what any unit in combat readiness looks like, which occupies a combat line. Do not tell my balls. This despite the fact that I served in the Navy, but in the USSR.
  31. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 21 March 2014 02: 53
    0
    Now, when entering Ukraine, you need to present $ 600 - and immediately feel ashamed to take away at the border?
  32. Dock
    Dock 24 March 2014 08: 01
    0
    Ukrainians! How did you allow banderlogs, eggs, pedi.kam to destroy YOUR HOUSE ?! It’s good, even though the chalice has passed the Crimea! And Glory to God! Do not stop, stop banditry, catch bandits ... they don’t have much left and they should start their own, or they’re already clearing (those unwanted, rivals, unwanted witnesses) shorter tails clean! Take care of yourself, normal people for you !!!