Speech by Dr. Gregor Gysi in the Bundestag - translation
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Mr. President! Lord
Putin wants to solve the crisis in Ukraine by military means. He did not understand that the problems of humanity are not solved either by soldiers or weapons. On the contrary. And Russia's problems are not being solved this way. He thinks and acts incorrectly. We condemn it. However, this is the same thinking that prevailed and reigned in the West with regard to Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya.
In the place of the confrontation of systems came the clash of interests of the United States and Russia. The cold war is over, but a similar contrast of interests may acquire similar features. The United States wants to gain more influence and retain existing influence. And Russia wants to get more influence and retain the existing influence. As the core words in relation to Russia I will name only Georgia, Syria, Ukraine. Although Putin’s actions are condemned, you need to understand how the situation escalated. I will tell you in no uncertain terms: they did everything wrong that NATO and the EU could do wrong.
I'll start with Gorbachev in 1990 year. He proposed a common European home, the dissolution of NATO, the Warsaw Pact and the concept of joint security with Russia. All this NATO rejected. It said, “Well, let's dismiss the ATS, but NATO will remain.” And from the defensive alliance, NATO becomes a union of interventionists.
The second mistake: when uniting Germany, the US Secretary of State, our former foreign minister Genscher and other foreign ministers told Gorbachev that NATO would not expand eastward. This promise has been broken. NATO has made a sharp breakthrough towards Russia.
Former US Secretary of Defense Robert Gates called the hasty admission of Eastern European countries to NATO as a blunder, and an attempt by the West to invite Ukraine to NATO was a blatant provocation. I did not say this, but the former US Secretary of Defense.
Thirdly, it was decided to place missiles in Poland and the Czech Republic. The Russian government said: “It hurts our security interests. We don't want that. ” The West was not interested at all. And he continued his.
Then NATO many times grossly violated international law in Yugoslavia. Even the former chancellor Schroeder admits this. Serbia did not attack another state, and there was no decision of the UN Security Council. However, there were bombings, and Germany was involved in them for the first time since 1945. And the residents of Kosovo in a referendum were able to decide on secession from Serbia.
I then harshly criticized the violation of international law and told you: “In the case of Kosovo, you open Pandora’s box. If you allow it in Kosovo, then you must allow it in other places too. ” You scolded me. You did not take it seriously. And you considered yourself victors in the Cold War, for which the previous norms did not work. I tell you: the Basques ask why they cannot hold a referendum, whether they want to be part of Spain or not. The Catalans ask why they cannot hold a referendum, whether they want to be part of Spain or not. Of course, the same is now asked residents of the Crimea.
By violating international law, thanks to customary law, it is possible to create new international law. That you know. However, I remain in the opinion that the secession of the Crimea would be a violation of international law, just as the secession of Kosovo was a violation of international law.
But I knew that Putin would refer to Kosovo, and he did it. Now you, Mrs. Federal Chancellor, declare: “But this is a completely different situation.”
May be. But you do not realize: a violation of international law is a violation of international law. Dear Mrs. Roth, ask the judge: theft from noble motives will not be considered as theft compared to theft not from noble motives. And he will tell you: "It will remain a theft." That's the problem.
Then Mr. Struck told us: "Germany must protect its security in the Hindu Kush." And now Mr. Putin is declaring: “Russia must protect its security in the Crimea.” By the way, Germany didn’t have fleet in the Hindu Kush, and he was noticeably farther. However, I say: both statements are not true. But the thing remains: if many countries that violate international law accuse Russia of violating international law, then this is neither effective nor convincing. This is a fact that we are dealing with.
Like you, Madam Federal Chancellor, Obama spoke of the sovereignty and territorial integrity of states. But both of these principles were violated in Serbia, Iraq, Libya. The West believed it could violate international law, since the Cold War was over. The interests of Russia and China were seriously underestimated. Russia under Yeltsin, who was often drunk, was not taken seriously at all. However, the situation has changed. Very late you refer to the principles of international law that emerged during the Cold War. I am pro and kicking. But principles must act for all! It can not be otherwise.
Then there was friction between the EU and Russia over Ukraine. Both sides acted the same way. Barroso, the chairman of the European Commission, said: “Or a customs union with Russia, or treaties with us!” He did not say: “Both, and more,” he said: “Either-or!” Putin said: “Or treaties with the EU, or with us! ”Both thought and acted in the same way, they allowed only one opportunity. It was a gross mistake on both sides.
None of the foreign ministers of the European Union countries tried to conduct a dialogue with Russia and generally take into account Russia's justified security interests. Russia fears that after close ties with the EU, NATO will come to Ukraine. She feels that the ring of the environment is compressed around her. Now Ukraine.
EU and NATO foreign ministers did not take into account at all history Russia and Ukraine. They never understood the significance of Crimea for Russia. In Ukrainian society, a deep split. But this was not taken into account. Deep schism manifested itself already in the years of the Second World War. It is noticeable today. Eastern Ukraine stretches to Russia. Western Ukraine stretches to the West. Currently, there is not a single politician in Ukraine who could represent the whole society. This is a sad truth.
However, there is the Council of Europe and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE). Recently, you have neglected them greatly, Madam Federal Chancellor, Mr. Foreign Minister. Money for the organization all the time allocated less, because it was believed that these organizations are not important, but they are the only organizations where both Russia and Ukraine are composed. Therefore, we must again strengthen these organizations, rather than rant about the exclusion of Russia. This is generally wrong. They need to be strengthened by finances.
Then there was a strong aggravation of the situation on the Maidan. Then there were the snipers and the dead. There are various rumors. In such situations, many lie. Therefore, we propose to establish an international commission to investigate. We, but above all, the people of Ukraine have the right to know what happened, who is responsible for what. I am pleased, Madam Federal Chancellor, that you support us in this.
On the Independence there were many democratic forces, but also fascists. The West has directly and indirectly participated in this. Then, Foreign Minister Steinmeier, the foreign ministers of France, Poland and Yanukovych signed an agreement with the opposition. And now they say that because of the flight of Yanukovych, the contract is untenable. This is not true. People on Independence rejected it with a considerable margin, and you, Mr. Foreign Minister, also did not campaign for the treaty on the square. And only after the contract was rejected, Yanukovych leaves Kiev. Then parliament sits and ousts Yanukovych from power with 72,88% of votes. But the constitution should be 75%. Ryotgen and others say, well, yes, they say, revolution, it is impossible to observe the constitution, a few percent more, a few less. Yes, but Putin refers to the constitution and says that there was no majority prescribed by the constitution to remove the president from office and refers to a letter from Yanukovych. In addition, when voting in parliament there were a lot of armed people around. It was not democratic. And in the referendum in the Crimea next Sunday there will also be armed soldiers. This is also not democratic. And the most interesting thing, Madam Federal Chancellor: you say that such a referendum is prohibited by the Constitution of Ukraine. So when does the Constitution work and when does it not? When the president is removed from office, she does not act, and in the case of the Crimea she suddenly acts. You should know whether you recognize the constitution of Ukraine as a whole or in parts if you like it. This is familiar to me, and I do not like it.
Then a new government was formed. He was immediately supported by President Obama, also by the EU and the German government. Mrs. Merkel! Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Defense, Minister of Agriculture, Minister of Environmental Protection, Attorney General - they are all fascists! The head of the National Security Council was the founder of the fascist Freedom party. The fascists have important posts, for example, they dominate the security sector. And the Nazis have never voluntarily parted with the government, even with its part. And here, already on the basis of our history, at least the government of the Federal Republic of Germany should have drawn the line (applause).
When the Austrian Freedom Party of Haider entered the government, contacts were terminated and so on. And in the case of the Nazis from Ukraine do not do anything? Svoboda has close contacts with the NPD and other Nazi parties in Europe. And the party’s chairman, Oleg Tyagnybok, said the following. I quote. Remember what he said. The beginning of the quotation: “Take the weapon, fight with the Russian pigs, with the Germans, with the Jewish pigs and other contagion”. The end of the quote.
I repeat: this man said - the beginning of the quotation: “Take a weapon, fight with Russian pigs, with Germans, with Jewish pigs and other plague”. The end of the quote.
Already, the Jews and the left is being hunted. And you are silent? Do you still talk to these people from Freedom?
I think this is a scandal. I state this clearly. And now you are going to impose sanctions. Putin will not like it. Sanctions will exacerbate the situation. Kissinger is right - the former US Secretary of State - when he says that sanctions are not an expression of strategy, but an expression of a lack of strategy. The same applies to the frequent flight of the military over the Baltic States and Poland. What is it all about?
The accounts of Yanukovych and his associates are blocked because they have stolen money on them. My question is: did you not know about it before?
The second question: why, in fact, only these accounts? And what about the billions of states of oligarchs that other forces support? Why don't you do anything there? What a one-sided approach! (applause).
There is only the path of diplomacy.
First, the West should recognize the legitimate interests of Russia in Crimea concerning security, as, by the way, US Secretary of State Kerry understood.
It is necessary to find a status with which Ukraine, Russia and we can live. Russia needs to ensure that Ukraine is not a member of NATO.
Secondly, the perspective of Ukraine is to play the role of a bridge between the EU and Russia.
Thirdly, in Ukraine it is necessary to begin a process that provides understanding and reconciliation between the West and the East. Perhaps this will be the status of a confederation or federation. Maybe it will be two presidents. I reproach the EU and NATO for not having found contact with Russia until today and are not looking for it. This needs to be changed fundamentally.
There is no security in Europe either without or against Russia. Only with Russia.
And if sometime a way out of the crisis is found, the advantage will be that at last all parties will show respect for international law.
Thank you
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There are still sober people in Germany. The video was sent to me by my German friend, whom I invited to our site - let him practice in Russian :)))
Santor
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Mr. President! Lord
Putin wants to solve the crisis in Ukraine by military means. He did not understand that the problems of humanity are not solved either by soldiers or weapons. On the contrary. And Russia's problems are not being solved this way. He thinks and acts incorrectly. We condemn it. However, this is the same thinking that prevailed and reigned in the West with regard to Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya.
In the place of the confrontation of systems came the clash of interests of the United States and Russia. The cold war is over, but a similar contrast of interests may acquire similar features. The United States wants to gain more influence and retain existing influence. And Russia wants to get more influence and retain the existing influence. As the core words in relation to Russia I will name only Georgia, Syria, Ukraine. Although Putin’s actions are condemned, you need to understand how the situation escalated. I will tell you in no uncertain terms: they did everything wrong that NATO and the EU could do wrong.
I'll start with Gorbachev in 1990 year. He proposed a common European home, the dissolution of NATO, the Warsaw Pact and the concept of joint security with Russia. All this NATO rejected. It said, “Well, let's dismiss the ATS, but NATO will remain.” And from the defensive alliance, NATO becomes a union of interventionists.
The second mistake: when uniting Germany, the US Secretary of State, our former foreign minister Genscher and other foreign ministers told Gorbachev that NATO would not expand eastward. This promise has been broken. NATO has made a sharp breakthrough towards Russia.
Former US Secretary of Defense Robert Gates called the hasty admission of Eastern European countries to NATO as a blunder, and an attempt by the West to invite Ukraine to NATO was a blatant provocation. I did not say this, but the former US Secretary of Defense.
Thirdly, it was decided to place missiles in Poland and the Czech Republic. The Russian government said: “It hurts our security interests. We don't want that. ” The West was not interested at all. And he continued his.
Then NATO many times grossly violated international law in Yugoslavia. Even the former chancellor Schroeder admits this. Serbia did not attack another state, and there was no decision of the UN Security Council. However, there were bombings, and Germany was involved in them for the first time since 1945. And the residents of Kosovo in a referendum were able to decide on secession from Serbia.
I then harshly criticized the violation of international law and told you: “In the case of Kosovo, you open Pandora’s box. If you allow it in Kosovo, then you must allow it in other places too. ” You scolded me. You did not take it seriously. And you considered yourself victors in the Cold War, for which the previous norms did not work. I tell you: the Basques ask why they cannot hold a referendum, whether they want to be part of Spain or not. The Catalans ask why they cannot hold a referendum, whether they want to be part of Spain or not. Of course, the same is now asked residents of the Crimea.
By violating international law, thanks to customary law, it is possible to create new international law. That you know. However, I remain in the opinion that the secession of the Crimea would be a violation of international law, just as the secession of Kosovo was a violation of international law.
But I knew that Putin would refer to Kosovo, and he did it. Now you, Mrs. Federal Chancellor, declare: “But this is a completely different situation.”
May be. But you do not realize: a violation of international law is a violation of international law. Dear Mrs. Roth, ask the judge: theft from noble motives will not be considered as theft compared to theft not from noble motives. And he will tell you: "It will remain a theft." That's the problem.
Then Mr. Struck told us: "Germany must protect its security in the Hindu Kush." And now Mr. Putin is declaring: “Russia must protect its security in the Crimea.” By the way, Germany didn’t have fleet in the Hindu Kush, and he was noticeably farther. However, I say: both statements are not true. But the thing remains: if many countries that violate international law accuse Russia of violating international law, then this is neither effective nor convincing. This is a fact that we are dealing with.
Like you, Madam Federal Chancellor, Obama spoke of the sovereignty and territorial integrity of states. But both of these principles were violated in Serbia, Iraq, Libya. The West believed it could violate international law, since the Cold War was over. The interests of Russia and China were seriously underestimated. Russia under Yeltsin, who was often drunk, was not taken seriously at all. However, the situation has changed. Very late you refer to the principles of international law that emerged during the Cold War. I am pro and kicking. But principles must act for all! It can not be otherwise.
Then there was friction between the EU and Russia over Ukraine. Both sides acted the same way. Barroso, the chairman of the European Commission, said: “Or a customs union with Russia, or treaties with us!” He did not say: “Both, and more,” he said: “Either-or!” Putin said: “Or treaties with the EU, or with us! ”Both thought and acted in the same way, they allowed only one opportunity. It was a gross mistake on both sides.
None of the foreign ministers of the European Union countries tried to conduct a dialogue with Russia and generally take into account Russia's justified security interests. Russia fears that after close ties with the EU, NATO will come to Ukraine. She feels that the ring of the environment is compressed around her. Now Ukraine.
EU and NATO foreign ministers did not take into account at all history Russia and Ukraine. They never understood the significance of Crimea for Russia. In Ukrainian society, a deep split. But this was not taken into account. Deep schism manifested itself already in the years of the Second World War. It is noticeable today. Eastern Ukraine stretches to Russia. Western Ukraine stretches to the West. Currently, there is not a single politician in Ukraine who could represent the whole society. This is a sad truth.
However, there is the Council of Europe and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE). Recently, you have neglected them greatly, Madam Federal Chancellor, Mr. Foreign Minister. Money for the organization all the time allocated less, because it was believed that these organizations are not important, but they are the only organizations where both Russia and Ukraine are composed. Therefore, we must again strengthen these organizations, rather than rant about the exclusion of Russia. This is generally wrong. They need to be strengthened by finances.
Then there was a strong aggravation of the situation on the Maidan. Then there were the snipers and the dead. There are various rumors. In such situations, many lie. Therefore, we propose to establish an international commission to investigate. We, but above all, the people of Ukraine have the right to know what happened, who is responsible for what. I am pleased, Madam Federal Chancellor, that you support us in this.
On the Independence there were many democratic forces, but also fascists. The West has directly and indirectly participated in this. Then, Foreign Minister Steinmeier, the foreign ministers of France, Poland and Yanukovych signed an agreement with the opposition. And now they say that because of the flight of Yanukovych, the contract is untenable. This is not true. People on Independence rejected it with a considerable margin, and you, Mr. Foreign Minister, also did not campaign for the treaty on the square. And only after the contract was rejected, Yanukovych leaves Kiev. Then parliament sits and ousts Yanukovych from power with 72,88% of votes. But the constitution should be 75%. Ryotgen and others say, well, yes, they say, revolution, it is impossible to observe the constitution, a few percent more, a few less. Yes, but Putin refers to the constitution and says that there was no majority prescribed by the constitution to remove the president from office and refers to a letter from Yanukovych. In addition, when voting in parliament there were a lot of armed people around. It was not democratic. And in the referendum in the Crimea next Sunday there will also be armed soldiers. This is also not democratic. And the most interesting thing, Madam Federal Chancellor: you say that such a referendum is prohibited by the Constitution of Ukraine. So when does the Constitution work and when does it not? When the president is removed from office, she does not act, and in the case of the Crimea she suddenly acts. You should know whether you recognize the constitution of Ukraine as a whole or in parts if you like it. This is familiar to me, and I do not like it.
Then a new government was formed. He was immediately supported by President Obama, also by the EU and the German government. Mrs. Merkel! Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Defense, Minister of Agriculture, Minister of Environmental Protection, Attorney General - they are all fascists! The head of the National Security Council was the founder of the fascist Freedom party. The fascists have important posts, for example, they dominate the security sector. And the Nazis have never voluntarily parted with the government, even with its part. And here, already on the basis of our history, at least the government of the Federal Republic of Germany should have drawn the line (applause).
When the Austrian Freedom Party of Haider entered the government, contacts were terminated and so on. And in the case of the Nazis from Ukraine do not do anything? Svoboda has close contacts with the NPD and other Nazi parties in Europe. And the party’s chairman, Oleg Tyagnybok, said the following. I quote. Remember what he said. The beginning of the quotation: “Take the weapon, fight with the Russian pigs, with the Germans, with the Jewish pigs and other contagion”. The end of the quote.
I repeat: this man said - the beginning of the quotation: “Take a weapon, fight with Russian pigs, with Germans, with Jewish pigs and other plague”. The end of the quote.
Already, the Jews and the left is being hunted. And you are silent? Do you still talk to these people from Freedom?
I think this is a scandal. I state this clearly. And now you are going to impose sanctions. Putin will not like it. Sanctions will exacerbate the situation. Kissinger is right - the former US Secretary of State - when he says that sanctions are not an expression of strategy, but an expression of a lack of strategy. The same applies to the frequent flight of the military over the Baltic States and Poland. What is it all about?
The accounts of Yanukovych and his associates are blocked because they have stolen money on them. My question is: did you not know about it before?
The second question: why, in fact, only these accounts? And what about the billions of states of oligarchs that other forces support? Why don't you do anything there? What a one-sided approach! (applause).
There is only the path of diplomacy.
First, the West should recognize the legitimate interests of Russia in Crimea concerning security, as, by the way, US Secretary of State Kerry understood.
It is necessary to find a status with which Ukraine, Russia and we can live. Russia needs to ensure that Ukraine is not a member of NATO.
Secondly, the perspective of Ukraine is to play the role of a bridge between the EU and Russia.
Thirdly, in Ukraine it is necessary to begin a process that provides understanding and reconciliation between the West and the East. Perhaps this will be the status of a confederation or federation. Maybe it will be two presidents. I reproach the EU and NATO for not having found contact with Russia until today and are not looking for it. This needs to be changed fundamentally.
There is no security in Europe either without or against Russia. Only with Russia.
And if sometime a way out of the crisis is found, the advantage will be that at last all parties will show respect for international law.
Thank you
============
There are still sober people in Germany. The video was sent to me by my German friend, whom I invited to our site - let him practice in Russian :)))
Santor
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