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Speaking of Ukrainophobia

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Speaking of UkrainophobiaMy relative, Russian, 30 years ago, married to a Ukrainian and living now in Kiev, sent me an SMS asking: what do I think about Ukrainophobia?


Frankly, this question put me in a dead end, and I did not immediately find an answer. After some meditations, I write in response: “... Ukrainophobia” (ugh, what a word they came up with!) As a word and as a concept does not exist either in the Russian lexicon or in the Russian public consciousness. Unlike in the whole world, the well-known and widespread concept of “Russophobia”.

In fact, in my mind for 60 years of life lived in this country, no negative emotions have been formed towards Ukraine and the people living in it. Since childhood, for me, "Nenka Ukraine" is a sweet, gentle, gentle land with a warm climate, with a good-natured population; fields, gardens, white huts, beautiful songs ... And, of course, Ilya of Murom with Alyosha Popovich and Dobrynia Nikitich. And Kiev is the mother of Russian cities ... The system of forming public consciousness in my country worked in this direction. (It seems to me, the direction was right - to form a friendly attitude to each other of numerous nations and nationalities living in the territory of the Soviet Union.) And during military service, my best friend and comrade was a Ukrainian.

After the collapse of the Soviet Union, little has changed in the public consciousness of the Russians towards Ukraine. The fact that the seeds of nationalism and even chauvinism sprouted in the fertile soil of Ukraine and gave abundant seedlings (by the way, it has very little in common with the modern civilized understanding of such a term as “patriotism”), as if in a low voice ashamed of this phenomenon. And about the fact that in Chechnya, Abkhazia and Georgia, Ukrainian specialists and militants fought against Russia, wrote and spoke almost half-whisper. Officials of Russia kept silence at all, as if this fact was not at all. And at the same time my relatives accuse Russians (and me, it turns out) of “Ukrainophobia”. And also in the oppression of the Ukrainian people, the “famine” (damn you, my God!) And the annexation of the territories.

How did it happen that in some 25 years, so much shit was piled on the heads of Ukrainian citizens that the Russians became enemies for them? Who of Russians oppressed and oppressed Ukrainians during these last 25 years?

Maybe it happened before? And when before? How many of you remember this "before"? Are there any witnesses?

I now remember how people lived in Ukraine (or in any other of the former Soviet republics) 35 years ago, and how - as opposed to - in central Russia or Siberia. I have been there and there. Have you ever been?

It seems to me that the fault is the standard of living of the population. A hungry person in any country becomes easily suggestible and, as a rule, begins to suffer from hyperopia. Such a person can easily make out the enemy beyond the horizon (you only need to correctly indicate the direction) and will not notice that someone's hand is fumbling in his pocket. And he will not understand that the enemy beyond the horizon is a mirage, a hungry hallucination, and someone else’s hand in his pocket clearly belongs to someone who is near.

Well, well fed on the barricades will not climb. Will sit at home, store bins. Is that he is furious with fat - there are those.

If we assume that the cause of the forcing of anti-Russian sentiment was the difficult economic legacy inherited by Ukraine from the Soviet Union, then I'm sorry, I can not recognize this blame for the Russians in general, or for myself personally in particular. The economy of the Soviet Union (and the state after it) was destroyed not only by the Russians. It was quite even an international group (I will say very gently) of economically semi-literate, but painfully ambitious people, found themselves in the levers of managing the country's economy in the second half of the eighties of the last century. The Russians, perhaps, were guilty only that by subsidizing the Soviet republics to the detriment of the Russian Federation for several decades, weaned the inhabitants of these republics to work and earn a living. Except, perhaps, for industrial clusters of eastern Ukraine and Belarus. Probably because today a huge number of people from the so-called "near abroad" work in Russia and take the money they earned to their home, refreshing the age-old migration routes of Russia's national income from the center to the periphery.

By the way, it was the Russian who, to put it mildly, was a Russian who said something like in 91: “Take as much independence as you can eat!” And they took it. And a state appeared on the world map with the name of Ukraine with today's borders. And they began to eat. It is here, in my opinion, that the main root of evil must be sought.

There is something started, but not all, but only some. Mostly local Ukrainian gangsters. Sorry, effective managers who quickly became oligarchs. The very ones in whose pockets ... Again, sorry, on whose accounts in the largest European banks the same aggregate gross national product of Ukraine is located, which would have to develop the economy, feed the country's population and maintain a strong, modern and respected army in the world.

It seems to me that this most cumulative gross national oligarch is the owner of that hand, which points far-sighted Ukrainians at the enemy beyond the horizon east of Kiev. His second hand at this time is fumbling in the pockets of citizens, including my relatives living in a country that bears such a glorious and tender name - Ukraine. In a country where apple trees and cherries are blooming in the gardens near the trill of a nightingale. In a country where "The bluest in the world / my Black Sea, / my Black Sea ..."

But this, I think, is only one side of the Ukrainian medal. Although it would be more relevant and more accurate to say, the badges of the ground belt of the attack aircraft UNA-UNSO. There is a second side, usually hidden from prying eyes. This is the complex of the vanquished.

After all, it is well known that not all Ukrainians are fighting shoulder to shoulder with the Russian and many other nations of the world against German fascism. Quite a few Ukrainians fought on the other side. These are the vanquished, but not convinced, who harbor a grudge against fate and the winners, having waited in the wings, crawled out of seemingly nothingness and declared themselves. And it turned out that there are not one or two, but hundreds, maybe even thousands.

But what is strange and not clear is: how have they managed to convince by now quite a significant part of the population of Ukraine, millions of seemingly sensible people that this pathetic bunch of fascists are the heroes of their country, that they are the true patriots of their homeland , and Russian-the occupiers? After all, more recently, in the elections to the Verkhovna Rada 26 March 2006, the UNA-UNSO scored only a little more than 16000 votes? Moreover, they managed to convince not only "real" Ukrainians, but even many ethnic Russians living in Ukraine? We ask my relative: “Well, you are Russian, then what are you doing there ?!” And she answers something like: “Yes, I am Russian! And because of that, I was even more bitterly aware of how we, the Russians, were waving Ukrainians with famines and other various bad deeds ... ”

"Tolerance"? "Liberalism"? If this is the reason, then is it not time to declare these words unprintable and enter into the dictionary of foul language? And finally, remember that the press (and for our time, read: all the media) was considered by Leo Tolstoy to be the most destructive force of civil society, which should be kept tightly under control.

However, it seems to me that every medal has a third party. This is the loss by many people, especially modern youth, of such qualities of character, which until recently were considered one of the main features of a civilized person’s character, such as honor, dignity, and decency. Many of the thugs who were raging on the “Maidans” of Ukraine came there not so much at the call of their hearts as for the opportunity to earn extra money for 500 hryvnia and “for a portion of adrenaline. It's so much fun - give Moskal on the head with a cudgel! And you will not be imprisoned for this; moreover, they will even declare a hero. And they will give money. And do not think, but what does the one who gives this money want to get in the end for his money? “The hand of the giver will not fail! The hand of the taker will not fall away! ”It seems that basically this formula determines the consciousness of the crowd screaming in the stadium:“ Moskal on knives! ”

But it would seem that historical the experience of past years and centuries should give people wisdom. And gives. True, not everyone. And only to those people who study history not from textbooks written by opportunists prone to schizophrenia.

If you mix red and black, it turns brown. This is an alarming sign. And it would not be superfluous to know the new Ukrainian brown that in the recent history of Europe there were not only victorious marches of “brown shirts”, but also “the night of long knives”. It is possible that this night is not far off. And I would be very sad if the blame for that night would again be placed on Russia.
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  1. stroporez
    stroporez 20 March 2014 08: 29
    +20
    what kind of ........ "Ukrainophobia" !!!! ?????? I have lived in Yamal for more than 20 years ..... local television (TV "Ugra") as you turn it on, then one of the three ------ either the Tatars on their pro shoto (I don't understand it in their language) rub in, or Ukrainians, or local "Indians" (Khanty, Mansi, etc.) ------- and this is a phobia ???????
    1. nokki
      nokki 20 March 2014 08: 40
      +14
      We have half of the Voronezh province, one might say, Ukrainians. We laugh at each other, but no more. We have been living peacefully for hundreds of years. No "Ukrainophobia" is felt.
      1. sPS
        sPS 20 March 2014 09: 12
        +9
        I liked the article completely coincides with my thoughts about Ukraine .. plus
        1. Duke
          Duke 20 March 2014 11: 53
          0

          "Tolerance"? "Liberalism"? If this is the reason, is it not time to declare these words unprintable and put them in the dictionary of swearing?

          Against the Russian people are constantly provocations.
      2. Alekseev
        Alekseev 20 March 2014 16: 47
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        Quote: nokki
        We have half of the Voronezh province, one might say, Ukrainians.

        I confirm.
        And ravovylivat won in their everyday life until now. And do not stink of oppression, and not requiring them to be independent. yes
    2. marsel1524
      marsel1524 20 March 2014 09: 30
      +6
      We have a Ukrainian school director, note this in Bashkiria. in the area of ​​the diaspora of Ukrainians, like 300 people, they are not in a hurry to get something on the non-stop.
      1. Normal
        Normal 20 March 2014 10: 45
        +8
        The seeds of nationalism and even chauvinism (by the way, very little in common with the modern civilized understanding of such a term as “patriotism”) sprouted and gave abundant seedlings in the fertile soil of Ukraine, the Russian media spoke as if in an undertone, as if embarrassed and ashamed of this phenomenon.
        .... How did it happen that for some 25 years so much shit has piled into the heads of Ukrainian citizens that for them the Russians have become enemies? Which of the Russians oppressed and oppressed the Ukrainians over the past 25 years?

        Maybe this happened before?


        UkrAina as a state is an anti Russian project. ANTI-RUSSIA.
        Artificially cobbled together from the outskirts of various imperial formations (the Russian Empire, the Commonwealth and Austria-Hungary) for the sake of short-term political interests (and Russophobia) and is absolutely not a viable state, whose national idea is unwarranted conceit and a desire to live at the expense of others. Hence the claim to cities and territories that are not founded by this state or even conquered.
        The Ukrainians are generally an "interesting" people - "I’m going to take a bite" Yesterday they shouted "Krim - tse Ukraine!" (Shouted), today - "Donetsk tse Ukraine!" (they will shout), tomorrow, if not stopped, they will also shout about Kursk, Belgorod, Voronezh and Rostov. Yarosh has already expressed such claims. It cannot be otherwise, since this is the whole point of this anti-Russian project.
        Quote: nokki
        We have half of the Voronezh province, one might say, Ukrainians.


        Quote: marsel1524
        We have a Ukrainian school director, note this in Bashkiria. near Diaspora of Ukrainians (!!!) (emphasis mine. "Normal") like 300 people

        I think that the very concepts of UkrAin as a state, ukrAinets as a nationality, are already separatism
        (Separatism (French séparatisme from Latin separatus - separate), separation - politics and practice of separation, separation of a part of the state’s territory in order to create a new independent state or obtain the status of very broad autonomy (individual freedom of action; independence). Separatism leads to the violation of the sovereignty, unity and territorial integrity of the state, the principle of inviolability of borders and, as experience shows, can be a source of acute interstate and interethnic conflicts.)
        in relation to Russian Civilization, detachment and betrayal of Russian interests. Separatism must be countered.

        OkrAina is not a country, but a territory remote from the center.
        OkrAinets is not a nationality, but a place of residence geographically.

        It's time to realize this, at least personally for yourself, at the household level. And there you look and get to the authorities.
    3. Strezhevchanin
      Strezhevchanin 20 March 2014 10: 30
      +2
      Quote: stroporez
      what on ........ "Ukrainophobia" !!!! ??????

      Well, to achieve absolute insanity, we will spread the phrase "MAIDANOPHILIA" sounds like a diagnosis wassat "Pravolyub", lovers of the right sect, I will not continue further, I'm afraid I will disperse and get banned hi
  2. Sibiriya
    Sibiriya 20 March 2014 08: 30
    +1
    “The hand of the giver will not be impoverished! The hand of the taker will not fall away! ”It seems that basically this formula determines the consciousness of the crowd screaming at the stadium:“ to her knives! ”


    The basis remained in this category - consumption and nothing in return
  3. Good
    Good 20 March 2014 08: 31
    +3
    Indeed, the word "Ukrainophobia" is some kind of abusive. About 50% of the population of Russia is in one way or another connected with the Ukrainian people. In the whole world, no one has ever heard such a word.
    1. demon184
      demon184 20 March 2014 08: 35
      +17
      He's a bastard, ”Turbin continued with hatred,“ after all, he doesn't speak this language himself! AND? The day before yesterday I asked this by the canal, Doctor Kuritsky, he, if you please see, has forgotten how to speak Russian since November last year. There was Kuritsky, and now Kuritsky became ... So I ask: how is "cat" in Ukrainian? He answers: "whale". I ask: "How is the whale?" And he stopped, goggled his eyes and was silent. And now he doesn’t bow. ”Bulgakov.
  4. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 20 March 2014 08: 32
    -5
    In fact, in my mind for 60 years of life lived in this country, no negative emotions have been formed in relation to Ukraine and the people living in it. Since childhood, "Nenko Ukraine" for me ...

    I didn’t read further.
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 20 March 2014 09: 19
      +2
      If someone does not understand the beloved speech-turn of our liberals - pass by.
    2. xan
      xan 20 March 2014 10: 45
      0
      Quote: Al_lexx
      I didn’t read further.

      In vain, there is written about your type
  5. W1950
    W1950 20 March 2014 08: 32
    +8
    We have no Ukrainophobia in Russia. I have a Ukrainian wife and we raised three children together, and somehow we did not think that we had different nationalities. She just always considered herself Russian in spirit. Our fathers beat the brown plague together and restored the country after the military devastation so that we simply sney one. whole, indivisible.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 20 March 2014 11: 55
      +2
      Quote: W1950
      We do not have Ukrainophobia in Russia.

      Ukrainophobia is impossible by definition - because there is simply nothing to fear and hate, not that scale.
      The casket opens simply.
      In Poland, in the 80s, the "polonophobia" card was played. And today on the streets of cities one can find visual agitation in the form of stands about "mass" victims during the years of PUWP leadership. Army of Ludov and the feat of 2 Polish Armies in deep oblivion. Katyn need not be mentioned ...
      The same card was played in the Baltic countries after the collapse of the USSR. The same tricks and the same rhetoric. The topic has been investigated, there is no point in reasoning.
      Summary.
      Ukrainophobia - artificial attempt to justify Russophobia in the space of the post-socialist camp.
  6. Name
    Name 20 March 2014 08: 33
    +3
    FATHER RUSSIAN, MOTHER_S OF POLTAVA! So after all for 60 years of life lived in this country, no negative emotions were formed and the medal has two sides ..
  7. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 20 March 2014 08: 38
    +5
    from the Don.
    Anecdote in the topic:
    The family is sitting at the table. An indecent sound is heard.: Who the hell is that? Whistle!
  8. Cossacks
    Cossacks 20 March 2014 08: 45
    +1
    Victor Vinokurov you can’t say better. I want to put a lot of advantages.
  9. Evgen_Vasilich
    Evgen_Vasilich 20 March 2014 08: 50
    +11
    article struck a chord! in 1991 for the first time I felt bewildered when a classmate putting on a trident on his chest began to say that they feed the whole Union, that they would live perfectly without us, I went nuts then, because for me he was first Sanya, and then, in the 55th turn, the Ukrainian , and indeed, they remembered nationalities once a year, when the secretary of the Komsomol organization at the reporting meeting spoke at our courses so many nationalities ... and then the person with whom he sat at the same table in the canteen and next to it in the trench and in the tent froze , suddenly says - you always guzzled us ... 1 months ago I was in Chelyabinsk, there is a cabbage from nat. color - the crane is called, the waiter there is a young guy, polite and quick with a characteristic accent, asked him - Belarus? he says yes, but he studied in Ukraine (yes, I forgot to say where the conversation started - I asked if it is possible to convey the Ukrainian color with embroidered shirts and other national features, what for a trident at the entrance, etc.) and he knows, imagine KNOWS why I asked such a question_ because the Russians were always ill-disposed towards freedom-loving UKRAINIANS, everything is curtain, I'm in akher ...
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 20 March 2014 09: 03
      +4
      Affected live brother. All of us who slept and froze together experienced this once. We will endure anything, All of them are smart, one was Bohdan Khmelnitsky.
  10. Natalia
    Natalia 20 March 2014 08: 53
    +3
    And my family on the part of immigrants from the independent quarreled all over. For 60 years of living in one city, blood relatives completely destroyed all relations with each other. My twin cousins ​​managed to get out ... for no apparent reason. My mother hates me just like that - I can’t explain. I come to the conclusion that this is something at the genetic level. On the part of the father, the blood is Armenian, so observing the Maidan at the level of blood relatives is a difficult test. Moreover, there is nothing to share, all wealthy people, but love for squabbles, envy and intrigue is apparently just out of a love of art.
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  12. Sour
    Sour 20 March 2014 08: 56
    +1
    Well, well-fed on the barricades will not climb.

    A very and very controversial point of view. History does not confirm it.
    1. Sour
      Sour 20 March 2014 09: 30
      +4
      For a dumb minus sign.
      Not a single revolution has occurred in a truly hungry country. At least I do not know such revolutions. Famine is now in many countries in Africa, but there are no revolutions there.
      There were no starving people in Libya. And in Iran in the 70s, no one was starving. And in Syria, where the civil war has been going on for many years, there was no famine.
      When a person has nothing to eat, he thinks about a piece of bread. Revolutions are not committed by hungry people. This is a myth that idiots believe in.
      1. IGS
        IGS 20 March 2014 11: 24
        0
        I agree with you. Revolutions did not take place in hungry countries, in countries with great social stratification. The revolution is essentially a redistribution of wealth. A revolution occurs when it appears: "I want the same as his!", And someone begins to whisper: "After all, you are more worthy of this than he!" And in hungry countries there are food riots that do not lead to a change of government.
  13. mamont5
    mamont5 20 March 2014 08: 58
    +3
    That is what purposeful propaganda means. That's how they educate our enemies.
    1. Sour
      Sour 20 March 2014 09: 00
      +1
      Quote: mamont5
      That is what purposeful propaganda means. That's how they educate our enemies.

      And what propaganda raised Yushchenko and Tyagnibok? They were born and raised in the USSR.
      1. Luzhichanin
        Luzhichanin 20 March 2014 09: 55
        +1
        Quote: Sour
        And what propaganda raised Yushchenko and Tyagnibok?

        the one that is expressed in green candy wrappers
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      3. A TYPE
        A TYPE 20 March 2014 12: 10
        +1
        I can't say for sure about Tyagnybok, just a bastard, of course. But it’s difficult there, even the grandmother was named Frotman. But Yushchenko's dad "a thousand" times ran from the concentration camps of the Germans and survived ?! And there, in the concentration camps, I learned to drink coffee. And he raised the kids, not propaganda. However, the KGB worked poorly. And comrade. Stalin showed softness. Now we have.
  14. Sma11
    Sma11 20 March 2014 09: 00
    +1
    it was precisely the Russian who was, to put it mildly, the Russian who declared in 91 something like: “Take independence as much as you can eat!


    That was exactly the Russian. Either I'm drunk, or through thoughtlessness, he launched a process that will haunt us for a long time. Only one phrase in the legislation: "... at the discretion of the subject of the federation ..." gives such a big rampant "Russophobia" that mum do not cry.
    1. A TYPE
      A TYPE 20 March 2014 12: 16
      +3
      It is not customary to stir up the past. But this tyrant-alcoholic, on whose conscience hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, of lives, has no right to lie in the center of Moscow, in Russian soil.
      1. shatu
        shatu 20 March 2014 13: 01
        0
        Destroying monuments is barbarism, since they put it there, let it lie. But it would be worth putting up a sign - "Judas of the Russian land rests here!"
  15. Quantum
    Quantum 20 March 2014 09: 04
    +1
    The author of the article correctly noted that the Russian World in all Eurasian
    space, along with the passionarity of Russian civilization, has
    many branches, not always positive, and sometimes even destroying it. Apparently, this process has its own cyclical nature and the example of Ukraine,
    talks about the historical dead end of Slavic civilization. You can argue hoarsely, proving one or another argument, but the essence is the same: we all -
    Russians!
  16. pahom54
    pahom54 20 March 2014 09: 04
    +12
    I, too, have always treated Ukraine and, let’s say, Ukrainians with sympathy. And now I have Ukrainians among my friends (though they haven’t lived in Ukraine for a million years now). However, this is not about that.
    I married in the year of the Moscow Olympics in the Lviv region (then I served there) in a Ukrainian, of course. Father-in-law is a reserve major, political worker (!!!), member of the CPSU-VKPB since 1937 (!!!), an order bearer (took part in battles with the Japanese in 1945). Everything was fine.
    Then he transferred to the outback of Russia - and everything was fine too.
    But with the collapse of the USSR, father-in-law sharply became a nationalist, even coming to visit us, he taught his grandson (that is, my son), as a result of which my son once told me (and this is 11 years old !!!); Dad - you - I'm a Nazi face !!! And I am a broad Ukrainian!
    In general, gradually everything went wrong ... Over time, I left my family, after 10 years I met another woman, and now for 14 years we have been living in perfect harmony ...
    What am I doing? And to the fact that some reptiles skillfully pour poison into the souls of people and skillfully manipulate their minds, which has shown all the fuss in (or in) present-day Ukraine.
    I did not have hatred for Ukraine or for normal (not hostile to us) Ukrainians, and to this day there is. Hatred has existed since Soviet times and remained for the Galicians-Bandera (by the way, he served in the town in which the SS Galicia division was formed at one time, and not far from the village in which Stepan Bandera was born and raised before his departure to Lviv to study. So there, even in Soviet times, there was an unofficial Bandera museum).
    1. Sour
      Sour 20 March 2014 09: 09
      +3
      Quote: pahom54
      But with the collapse of the USSR, father-in-law sharply became a nationalist,

      Surely he was to them, but he hid it.
  17. balyaba
    balyaba 20 March 2014 09: 08
    +4
    Now, you can see, sho it is take ... Is it possible to talk to such? Agree? So what to do?

    1. Bunchuk36
      Bunchuk36 20 March 2014 09: 30
      +1
      Youtube is blocked.
    2. v53993
      v53993 20 March 2014 10: 33
      +3
      Now, you can see, sho it is take ... Is it possible to talk with such

      Is this a report from a madhouse?
      1. omsbon
        omsbon 20 March 2014 11: 17
        0
        Quote: v53993
        Is this a report from a madhouse?


        No, buddy, this is a report from a cheap brothel!
        Larvochka, reasoning during a short break, right at the workplace.
        1. Homo
          Homo 20 March 2014 11: 32
          0
          Judging by her behavior, she is either stoned or chopped. And little eyes look at one point, it looks like the text is reading!
    3. Lelek
      Lelek 20 March 2014 12: 06
      +2
      According to Vysotsky: "... crazy - what can you take ...". bully
    4. klopik
      klopik 20 March 2014 20: 18
      0
      ... a clinical case ... a victim of propaganda. so generally it is contraindicated to watch TV in view of the huge suggestibility. unfortunately, we have such ones, I heard something similar the other day from a neighbor ... and it’s useless to prove something, the information is not perceived, the brain is disabled ... signs of a zombie ...
    5. Pancreas
      Pancreas 22 March 2014 22: 42
      0
      She is ill. And apparently not Volodya ... new Ukrainian. Who is going to win? With whom to fight?
  18. Stiletto
    Stiletto 20 March 2014 09: 17
    +4
    Read the Ukrainian "UNIAN" once, you will understand how the myth of Ukrainophobia in Russia is imposed on Ukrainians. And if you read it not once, but for about 23 years, then the brains will definitely be blown to one side, even from those who until then have not suffered from indigestion.
    1. Alekseev
      Alekseev 20 March 2014 10: 32
      +2
      Quote: Stiletto
      Read the Ukrainian "UNIAN" once, you will understand how the Ukrainophobia myth is imposed on Ukrainians

      And what, besides UNIAN and the oligarchic channels of the television tower in Ukraine, is there nothing? Neither satellite dishes, nor the Internet, nor broadcast, until very recently, of Russian channels on cable networks?
      "He who has ears, let him hear!"
      But nationalism has always been affected by it, including the Ahfitser, the party secretary (Kravchuk), and the director (Kuchmarik).
      It surprised me a little when a good, business friend in a private conversation as "trampled with a drill" recourse to Russia! Already marvel at. request And that was in 70-80 years. last century.
      So it's not difficult to "deceive a" broad "Ukrainian, he himself is glad to be deceived ...
      What to do, what to do?
      Well, it’s not by recruiting troops to re-educate them for sure. Not one more person in
      the world, much less a generous Ukrainian, never even admitted verbal criticism, even if the commandments are in the Gospel. (although spelled Orthodox)
      Here it is necessary as in the army: it does not reach through the head, it will reach through the legs and arms.
      Let them live on their own, cook in their g ... not. Strictly necessary, pragmatic: I do not like it, I went to hell! yes Business in such states with patients on their head at the head yes will not go.
      But really pro-Russian should be helped, if their absolute majority, as in the Crimea, then as in the Crimea. If not enough, then give the opportunity to move to Russia, help with work, device, drag minds, technologies. There are not so many left. yes
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 20 March 2014 11: 44
      +1
      Quote: Stiletto
      Read the Ukrainian "UNIAN" once, you will understand how the myth of Ukrainophobia in Russia is imposed on Ukrainians

      If only ...
      Almost ALL media outlets west of Ukraine are filled with hatred and anger towards Russia. Out of about one hour of broadcasting, at least 30 minutes are devoted to the topic of the Russian Federation, Crimea, GDP. And, esessno, in the darkest colors. Therefore, in Kiev and feel "right" and strong.
    3. archi.sailor
      archi.sailor 20 March 2014 12: 23
      +2
      I look at UNIAN every day to monitor the situation. Mostly they write nonsense designed for the brainwashed Ukrainians (mainly rural residents). And so you can have a good laugh laughing
  19. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 20 March 2014 09: 20
    +2
    It was the Holodomor that taught Ukraine to haul whatever it got, run around with a gun and not work? It seems to me that those who now "earn" automatically to work will never want to. Ukraine introduces a visa regime with Russia, and these guys will go to "earn money" to the west, to the EU. How do you like it Gayrope-barrel AK-74 in one place? And if after firing bursts? lol
  20. Sour
    Sour 20 March 2014 09: 22
    +6
    Here pahom54 writes that the father-in-law sharply became a nationalist. But an adult cannot immediately change his ideology. So, he was a nationalist, only hid it. And there were millions of them.
    I mean, you can not consider nationalism only as a result of propaganda. Its roots are deeper, regrettably. And those who argue that nationalism in Ukraine appeared only after the collapse of the USSR are mistaken.
    1. Alekseev
      Alekseev 20 March 2014 16: 45
      0
      Quote: Sour
      So, he was a nationalist, only hid it. And there were millions of them.
      I mean, you can not consider nationalism only as a result of propaganda. Its roots are deeper, regrettably. And those who argue that nationalism in Ukraine appeared only after the collapse of the USSR are mistaken.

      The true truth!
      And, interestingly, the hatred was not for specific Russians, (we were often friends), namely for Russia ...
      The subtext, in my personal opinion, was as follows: we, Ukrainians, are smart, advanced, cultured, "there is no richer land," and wild Russia, bast shoes, does not give us the will to live so well, as we deserve it.
      Well, some attributed some areas, Belgorod, Voronezh and a number of others, to themselves: this is also Ukraine yes ... But further ... Directly "unholy" Russian land, stinking Russia.
      In general, now nothing has changed: the stupid aspiration in the EU, as if everything is free there, and Russia, you see, and in the days of independence, everything prevents them from living like a bad dancer’s own eggs ...
      And this paranoid idea has been unchanged for centuries ... Not for everyone, of course, but for many woodpeckers, even with a higher education! request
  21. major071
    major071 20 March 2014 09: 23
    +6
    Ukrainophobia - what is it in general? This has never happened. Only recently "banderophobia" has appeared, well, the Ukrainians themselves are to blame for this.
  22. Rattenfanger
    Rattenfanger 20 March 2014 09: 24
    +2
    A relative of the author urgently to a doctor.
    "Yes I am Russian! And that’s why it’s even worse for me to realize how we Russians muzzled Ukrainians with famines and other mischievous deeds ... ”
    Sheer idiocy.
  23. Chifka
    Chifka 20 March 2014 09: 38
    +3
    It seems to me that the residents of Ukraine are just offended. Twenty years of independence did not lead to the expected prosperity, but to collapse, disorder and reeling. As always in such cases, it’s not their own fault ... But who then? Oh yeah! Damned legacy of the USSR! Atu them !! All of Russia is sleeping and sees how to attack a freebie for sacred things ... on FAT! So the toad strangles them, and they hide the fat every night ...
    1. Cheloveck
      Cheloveck 20 March 2014 12: 30
      +1
      Quote: Chifka
      It seems to me that the residents of Ukraine are just offended.

      Quote: mountain
      I’m reading comments and thinking, but everything has already been written and it’s time to draw conclusions, but still, something prevents me from saying honestly and admitting that we are not completely sincere in relations and evidence of this, and writers, films, and the most popular jokes . And in them all Ukrainians, to put it mildly, are tight-pressed, bragging and arrogant, why would they have it? The incredible merit or contribution to the world system and the story that they present to their children and youth today, hardly fit into my head. And what not, who did not see that all is one nonsense and appropriation of merit of all peoples. I must admit that they all liked this situation, exclusivity, independence, language

      Yes, probably a shame ...
      Nobody understands and appreciates their poor ... but they are so romantic, white and fluffy.
      It seems to me that T. Shevchenko deduced the quintessence of Ukrainian character many years ago:
      I marvel at the thought of that thought:
      Why do not I sokol, Why do not I pour,
      Why me, God, Ty krilets without giving? -
      I would leave the earth and go to heaven!

      Something like this ...
  24. vst6
    vst6 20 March 2014 09: 38
    0
    Yes, be afraid of God, what are you talking about, at first the Georgians, Stalin and Beria ruled Russia, then the Ukrainians Khrushchev and Brezhnev, on the contrary, everyone muzzled the Russians
  25. mountain
    mountain 20 March 2014 09: 51
    +5
    I’m reading comments and thinking, but everything has already been written and it’s time to draw conclusions, but still, something prevents me from saying honestly and admitting that we are not completely sincere in relations and evidence of this, and writers, films, and the most popular jokes . And in them all Ukrainians, to put it mildly, are tight-pressed, bragging and arrogant, why would they have it? The incredible merit or contribution to the world system and the story that they present to their children and youth today, hardly fit into my head. And what not, who did not see that all is one nonsense and appropriation of merit of all peoples. I must admit that they all liked this situation, exclusivity, independence, language, and how many percent speak it? And I have a question, but what is interesting, it manifested itself? It's simple, read the story. And if they asked me what fate awaits Ukraine, then I would answer that there will no longer be such a country, but there will be an outskirts, with offended people speaking MOV.
  26. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 20 March 2014 09: 54
    +2
    Gentlemen, bloodthirsty revolutionaries! This is about you - "... it was the" lumpen "who were the main driving force of any revolution - people who were always dissatisfied and did not want to work were ready to kill for the sake of a ghostly opportunity to get to the top and get the fattest pieces without working ..."
  27. parusnik
    parusnik 20 March 2014 10: 00
    +1
    Ukrainophobia ... The author on stage ... let him explain, the people want to figure out .. what kind of word is this ...
  28. inkass_98
    inkass_98 20 March 2014 10: 09
    +1
    "There were not only victorious marches of the" brown shirts ", but also the" night of long knives. "It is quite possible that this night is not far off. And I will be very upset if the blame for this night is again blamed on Russia."

    But I do not. The grandfathers have once taken upon themselves the responsibility for eradicating the brown infection, it is not a sin for us either. Only everything will be somewhat different. Since the "night of long knives" ended with the change of the leadership of the SA to the era of the SS, there is no need to interfere with such a massacre in the ranks of the Ukronazis, it will be necessary to finish off those who will win in internecine strife, so that there is no more divorce left.
  29. dmb
    dmb 20 March 2014 10: 14
    0
    Ay, come on. There is she, the notorious "Ukrainophobia", as well as other phobias. And then you will listen to us, Russians, we are all like one angels with a propeller in our ass. And the Russian Wahhabis, and Vlasov's companions, and the lovely Tambov villagers who ripped open the bellies of the commies. They didn't shoot, but they ripped open their bellies. Yes, and sometimes such thugs are found on the site, no worse than Yarosh or Tyagnibok. Every nation has fools and scoundrels. It's just that sometimes the authorities begin to use them in their interests. It happens that the authorities succeed in this, and then Hitler comes to power, sometimes not, and then the Crimea loses power.
    1. smart75
      smart75 20 March 2014 10: 57
      0
      And you can link to the site scumbags "not worse than Yarosh or Tyagnibok"?
      1. dmb
        dmb 20 March 2014 12: 19
        0
        Well, let's say, as an example, a gentleman from "Don", with whom I recently had a discussion on the national question. There was also a certain "Eshkin cat". Yes, read any article concerning the Cossacks. There, among the quite sound arguments of people with different points of view, you will find many of those who feel "much more equal" than others.
  30. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 20 March 2014 10: 27
    0
    There are Russian Ukrainians and Polish Ukrainians, they must be clearly separated.
    If Russian-Ukrainians are really just victims of Russophobic propaganda of the last 23 years, but there is still a chance to return them, then Polish-Ukrainians are long-standing and consistent enemies, so they should be perceived, and not put them all together and painfully think about the result.
  31. GRune
    GRune 20 March 2014 10: 49
    0
    But here's what is strange and not understandable: how did they manage to convince a rather significant part of the Ukrainian population, millions of seemingly sensible people, that it was this pathetic bunch of fascists that were the heroes of their country, that they were the real patriots of their homeland and the Russians are occupiers? Indeed, more recently, in the elections to the Verkhovna Rada on March 26, 2006, the UNA-UNSO gained only a little more than 16000 votes?
    The generation simply grew up brought up on new history textbooks, which reached the ballot boxes. The economy is definitely secondary, in Russia in the 90s it wasn’t sweeter ...
  32. Bayun
    Bayun 20 March 2014 10: 59
    0
    Brothers, it is not so easy, living in a large, Great country to understand the worldview, even if it is Russian in the way of thinking, but non-Russian in the way of thinking, living in a small country ... We absolutely sincerely and rightly believe that Ukraine and our Motherland too, remembering the "age of the golden Catherine" and the USSR. But, for Ukrainians, especially young people, the worldview is different. For him, for example, today Crimea is a part of his Motherland, which he lost. And I will understand his "Russophobia", although it would be right for him to blame his authorities. We would have created an army akin to the Israeli army in 20 years, now the West would not be needed, and we would, you see, be careful. And my "phobia" with Ukraine does not fit in any way, rather Ukrainian empathy or Ukrainian regret.
  33. valokordin
    valokordin 20 March 2014 11: 20
    0
    Hatred is incited by the oligarchs who came to power and their power. It is beneficial for them to channel hatred of them into hatred of their brothers and sisters. That's where the dog is buried. If our government does not appreciate this and does not take measures to curb the oligarchs and traitors to the motherland, referring to the 37th year, you will not have to wait for good.
  34. Donskoi
    Donskoi 20 March 2014 11: 32
    0
    “If you mix red and black, you get brown. This is an alarming sign. And it would not be superfluous for the new Ukrainian brown to know that in the recent history of Europe there were not only victory marches of“ brown shirts ”, but also“ the night of long knives ”. It is quite possible that this night is not far off. And I will be very upset if the blame for this night is again laid on Russia. "
    -Lay, I have no doubt! "The Russians are to blame for all the troubles of the Ukrainians" is the Western Russophobic axiom.
    The article is a tremendous Plus. All to the point! The only thing with regard to the payment of the Maidan in Kiev, the absolute majority of people there were free, so to speak, again "fought for independence" and against the gang. I know, as many of my friends were there. Only the road was paid, and even then at the end everyone rushed at their own expense - the crowd was brought up as it should.
    The Orange Revolution also took place in the spirit of "the struggle for independence and Russophobia" - deja vu, but with blood.
    The nationalists were looking for an idea under which the people would go under their banners, so they found an external "enemy", and summed up the historical basis, as they rightly say here, in school textbooks and the word "Holodomor" being changed into "genocide". I hope everyone understands the difference between these words. After all, in the second place there should be a killer nation ...
    The main role here belongs to ideologists from western Ukraine, a historically Russophobic part of the population, which, paradoxically, under this "oppression" did not really exist, unlike the southeast, and on their part, speculate about the tragedy of the Holodomor is simply low, low keep silent about the famine in the Volga region, Kazakhstan, Belarus ...
  35. corn
    corn 20 March 2014 11: 42
    0
    Quote from the article:
    "How did it happen that in some 25 years so much shit has been piled into the heads of the citizens of Ukraine that Russians have become enemies for them? Which of the Russians have oppressed and oppressed Ukrainians over the past 25 years?"
    Maybe it happened before? And when before? How many of you remember this "before"? Are there any witnesses? "
    I’ll try to answer the author’s rhetorical question: I am a witness that all this began much earlier than 25 years ago.
    In the years of my youth, I blurted out to my father that Ukraine feeds Russia and will live without Russia (my father is from near Kaluga, my mother is from Dnepropetrovsk, I grew up in (in) Ukraine), to which I received the answer: This is Russia feeding everyone, if you grow up, you will understand .
    While studying at the institute in Dnepropetrovsk I met with an aggressive misunderstanding that, while living in Ukraine, I am not a fan of any Ukrainian team.
    It was all in the late 60s and early 70s.
    Here is such a favorable ground for further events.
  36. made13
    made13 20 March 2014 11: 49
    0
    Ukrainians are different. For a long time in Ukraine there has been an opinion that Ukrainians are offended by their "elder brother", that everyone owes them everything, and so on. One has only to read history textbooks such as the subtelny ghost, as it becomes clear that not only Russia, but the whole world should ukre. But children are taught from such books, they believe in it! Hence nationalism, turning into fascism. Moreover, the feeling that I, a Ukrainian, is better than everyone else is not confirmed financially - neither by the results of the Olympics, nor by the standard of living in the country.

    Do not compare Ukrainians living in Russia with those who live in Ukraine - they are different people!
  37. Natalia
    Natalia 20 March 2014 12: 04
    0
    Indeed, a people who firmly believe that it flew from Venus and built Troy is hard to overestimate!
  38. Kornilovets
    Kornilovets 20 March 2014 12: 27
    0
    Bravo is a great article!
  39. terrible
    terrible 20 March 2014 12: 27
    0
    the Soviet tried to make us friends, but you can’t hide the sewing in the bag. At the household level, we know that it’s dangerous to get in touch with yoh. our grandfathers personally saw how the Ukrainians met the Germans with bread and deserted en masse. those who were fit were those who died and deserters with Bandera sons gave offspring. here you have millions of wide yes svidomo
  40. shatu
    shatu 20 March 2014 13: 09
    0
    It seems to me that the blame for the standard of living of the population. A hungry person in any country becomes easily suggestible

    What does the standard of living have to do with it, look at the Americans - they think a lot on their own, and in general - the West? It's about the "off" brain!
    Education in settlements, consumption has been elevated to a cult (aaa, a new iPhone, give it more and more!), Most of the people with "higher education" have not even heard about self-education.
  41. Balalaikin
    Balalaikin 20 March 2014 13: 36
    +1
    The problem probably lies much deeper ... Starting from the conquest of Kiev by the Mongol-Tatars, there was no normal government on the territory of Ukraine and it was not clear who controlled the territory. In these conditions, ordinary people lived the worst. Over time, from the once hardworking warriors a population was formed that lost all its qualities, because why work if the Tatars or the Poles come tomorrow or someone else, and in the best case, takes everything from you, in the worst it will drive you into slavery. This is where nationalism was born, people have been dreaming for about 1000 years to have their own state, which will protect them, create those conditions in which it will be possible to live normally, raise children and not worry that they will take everything away from you and get married somewhere. And I think in those circumstances it was a normal occurrence. So, nationalism among Ukrainians exists, let's say, in the blood ...
    But with all this, another negative quality has developed in the minds of people, distrust !!! It is also in the blood, in the subconscious! Living all the time under someone, people stopped believing that someone could sincerely wish you well. If someone is doing good for me, there’s a catch somewhere, who I was, what would someone think about me, he wants to fool me, cash in on me - let it not happen, right now I will arrange for him, he will receive from me "I am gaining." I think, subconsciously, many people think so at the same time.

    Nationalism and distrust did not degenerate in Soviet times. At first it was a post-revolutionary difficult time, people were told - be patient, now we will push and everyone will start living better right away. Then there was the post-war period, then the Cold War — and the promises are the same ... But if we had our own state, and we lived better, we feed the whole union — and they give us all the promises ... The USSR fell apart, it would seem that the Ukrainians got what you wanted - take it, build your state, pump up your sleeves and go ahead and with the song, but it wasn’t here. The instinct does not work in the subconscious, let’s say, because tomorrow they’ll “come and take everything away” ... And the authorities confirmed this, the people work at the very least - but they live the same way ... but only officials are getting richer and richer, and so all the independence, "occupied" from Kravchuk to Yanyk ...

    So Ukrainians live as they live, everyone dreams of freedom, but what kind of freedom is and what should be with it - no one knows, at the same time they also don’t want to work, because someone will come and take everything away, steal it, bring it out abroad, but I’ll work so that I have enough to live, and that’s all ... Nationalism is a disease and tragedy of Ukrainians ...
  42. Vrvarius
    Vrvarius 20 March 2014 15: 13
    0
    persecution mania among them. they are a great, free and independent people. smile and Russian slaves envy them and interfere with life. I was informed the other day that it turned out to be such a misfortune in Ukraine for all 20 years due to the fact that it was controlled by Russia. such a turn. and Yanukovosch Putin taught to steal.
  43. Odessa-mama
    Odessa-mama 20 March 2014 15: 47
    0
    95 Quarter tore Tyagnybok (a moment of humor)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVYFAoQybDM
  44. Pancreas
    Pancreas 22 March 2014 22: 44
    0
    Sick country, sick people. If a person is repeated many times that he - a person will believe. In Ukraine, they have been saying for many years that all the troubles of the population are from Russia ... It is good that there were enough people with common sense in the Crimea.