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Why in the West again did not understand Russia: they have forgotten how to be a nation

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The results of the Crimean referendum became one of the central themes for the world press. Just as phenomenal voter turnout is more than 83%, so the result is 96,77% looks incredible to many in the West. Comparisons have already begun with North Korea, with votes in the social camp of the USSR. Everything is shocked and Russia's real readiness to annex the Crimea.


Indeed, many in the West cannot believe that such unanimity is possible, and they simply do not understand the motivation of all the participants. Why? Let's look at this question not from the standpoint of the fact that these are Western Russophobes, as always against Russia. There is a much more interesting phenomenon. They really cannot believe, because unity is not provided for in the paradigm of the service state. In this paradigm, the president, the government and the government in general are only technical figures. Which by definition cannot be leaders and spokesmen of the aspirations of a nation, as it was in the West itself during the times of Roosevelt, de Gaulle and Adenauer. Just like technological democracy, where ideal choices are choices with the result 49 \ 51% or 33 \ 33 \ 33%, does not imply any unity: on the contrary, it should reflect the division of society into many groups, and the more, the more it is better.

Why? Because unity implies the presence of some kind of idea that the whole nation shares. But nations in the former sense, like super-ideas, are not provided for in this paradigm. Because - and this is key - such a nation has values ​​more important than the personal well-being of everyone. And this is dangerous. After all, only a people united by a common idea, and at the same time an intangible idea, and considering their state not a certain territory with hired managerial officials, but historical subject, able to withstand the project of a neoliberal globalized world, a world without sovereignty. That is why - mind you - opponents accuse both Putin and the Russians of historical backwardness, of what they supposedly think in terms of the past. Whereas, in fact, the opposite is true - against the background of globalization progress, Russia risked taking a step towards a different future. Or at least I tried - after all, success here is not guaranteed, and the model of this future is very vague. But the step has been taken.

You can pay attention that the domestic liberal press in the last couple of weeks has been asking the same pessimistic question for it - why do the Russians support all this? This Putin, this Crimea, this harsh rhetoric towards the West, although it leads us to international isolation. And the liberals have no doubt that they support it - it is impossible, after all, to deny the obvious. The people really want to see Russia as a strong industrial empire with a historic mission, and not a territory that will be allowed to exist on the outskirts of the club of white people, provided that it recognizes itself as a backward and inferior apprentice. The Russians did not recognize themselves as losers in the Cold War, which means they consider themselves eligible for their choice and their path.

Why is this unity so incomprehensible to someone? Because it really is based on categories of another reality. And the phrase attributed to Merkel, that Putin “lost touch with reality,” very accurately reflects this. Moreover, with the reality that the supporters of a unipolar “new world order” have been offering Russia since the collapse of the USSR, the majority of Russian citizens do not want any connection either. Moreover, it was not Russia who began the current confrontation, on the contrary, first Gorbachev, and then Putin all the time offered the Europeans a project of a “common European home”. However, neither the naive ideas of Mikhail Sergeyevich, nor the pragmatic variants of Vladimir Vladimirovich the atlantist West did not interest. In response, we received a NATO expansion to the east, the Eastern Partnership, unabashedly aiming to tear as far as possible from Russia the neighboring, historically connected countries, the former Soviet republics, the insane Russophobic rhetoric of the Western media, which did not happen even during the Cold War (and noted the most adequate Western analysts, this hysteria did nothing to promote the propaganda of liberal European values, but on the contrary, only pushed the Russians away from them).

Finally, they decided to “take Ukraine”. Did these “designers” count on success? Full Indeed, in the logic of technological and commercial decision-making, Russia should not resist, risking the economy, the welfare of citizens, the image of the world, and so on. And citizens should not resist because they are more expensive.

Yes, Putin's position, the position of political and business elites, military resources, the degree of readiness for radical changes in the economy and the possible reorientation of Russia to the East in the event of a real new Cold War with the West matters. But the outcome of the current situation with Ukraine, and in general the subsequent fate of Russia, its position in the world and the very geopolitical structure of this world now depend in many respects also on the readiness of all Russia and the Russians to decide what reality they want to live in and readiness to prove what values for them are really important. And I think, external observers still have a lot to be surprised.
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  1. TAMERLAN 7
    TAMERLAN 7 19 March 2014 14: 13
    +57
    Concerned about the following:
    Konstantin Sivkov, President of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems, Doctor of Military Sciences, commented on the re-equipment of NATO tactical aviation for the use of nuclear weapons, which, in his opinion, could be a sign of preparations for a war with Russia.
    In this context, the sudden decision of the American leadership to build up the potential of tactical nuclear weapons in Europe is very indicative. It is planned to equip the F-16 and Tornado fighters of the air forces of five NATO countries with equipment that allows the use of B61-12 nuclear bombs. Which is very significant, they are supposed to equip the airplanes of countries that are considered today non-nuclear: Belgium, the Netherlands, Turkey, Germany and Italy. The re-equipment of the aircraft is expected to be completed by the 2018 year. It is planned to equip all prospective F-35 fighter jets with the same equipment. It is obvious that this work is not just being done. If airplanes are given the opportunity to use nuclear weapons, then there are plans to do so.

    I think this is Obama’s ritual menacing dance! All the same - it’s unpleasant.
    1. Tumbleweed
      Tumbleweed 19 March 2014 14: 16
      +30
      Quote: TAMERLAN 7
      There is serious evidence: President of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems, Doctor of Military Sciences Konstantin Sivkov commented on the re-equipment of NATO tactical aircraft for the use of nuclear weapons, which, in his opinion, may be a sign of preparations for war with Russia.

      This is not serious data. Russia is also developing a new PAK YES developing and releasing new submarines, this is a natural process of increasing defense capability ...
      Fighting with Russia now is the end of life on Earth, and everyone understands this ... Fighting with Russia over the coup in Ukraine is not even a joke. In Europe, diapers are being massively treated now ...
      The re-equipment of the aircraft is expected to be completed by 2018.

      By 2018, Crimea (I think not only it) will finally "settle down" as part of Russia.
      1. Alex Nick
        Alex Nick 19 March 2014 21: 29
        0
        And I have a different opinion. It’s just that our nuclear forces are becoming more powerful, and the American missiles are very old, some may not fly up. Here they compensate for the decrepitude of their missiles. But this is unlikely to help them.
      2. kargrom
        kargrom 19 March 2014 21: 46
        0
        I think not only him, but I even believe in it!
    2. a52333
      a52333 19 March 2014 14: 22
      +26
      It is unlikely that the Americans will climb on someone who can knock out in response, and with a fatal outcome. This is not Iraq (paired with a golden donkey) to hammer.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 19 March 2014 15: 19
        +7
        Quote: a52333
        It is unlikely that the Americans will climb on someone who can knock out in response, and with a fatal outcome. This is not Iraq (paired with a golden donkey) to hammer.


        It’s true that mattresses have recently become accustomed to fighting with other people’s hands, but if they themselves climb somewhere, it’s not even in the third but in the fourth world.
      2. Native grandfather
        Native grandfather 19 March 2014 16: 04
        +24
        In terms of size and equipment, US and NATO forces are superior to Russian. BUT. America has become convinced of how it can unite with lightning speed into one whole and mighty entire Russian people. But you have to fight not only against tanks, but also against the people. And this is well understood in the West especially now. And here they (in today's realities) become scared. In general, they did not shyly awake. ))) American ass not understand the Russian soul when!
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 19 March 2014 16: 50
          +7
          Quote: Native grandfather
          In terms of size and equipment, US and NATO forces are superior to Russian.

          In addition to the absolute number, such a factor as the supply arm (shoulder) is of great importance. Within the limits of the "Russian" track of the railway, the Russian army is invincible today.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 19 March 2014 17: 26
            +7
            Quote: Setrac
            In terms of size and equipment, US and NATO forces are superior to Russian.
            In addition to the absolute number, such a factor as the supply arm (shoulder) is of great importance. Within the limits of the "Russian" track of the railway, the Russian army is invincible today.

            The answer may be "Comrade Power's" hysteria about "nuclear blackmail" ...
            Today, the presence of nuclear weapons along with the means of delivery to "partners" is a guarantee of immunity.
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        3. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 20 March 2014 04: 49
          0
          the Russian people need to explain in more detail what happens to those who betrayed their national leader-Iraq S. Hussein Libya M. Gaddafi Egypt .. what did the traitors get at the exit ..?
      3. acute
        acute 19 March 2014 16: 33
        +2
        they need to show them "kuzkin mother2 they love it very much
      4. acute
        acute 19 March 2014 19: 55
        +9
        Barack, I'm tired of you. I ask you about one thing. leave my country alone. Millions of Russians are tired of waiting for a war with America. I am 53 years old, I have two good children. Get rid of my country. I curse you and all your offspring. Let us live in peace. We ourselves will deal with our crooks. But why are you here? I don’t want to kill anyone, I’m peaceful, but I’m tired of all this. I'm tired of our democrats, your hawks, Kiev pi .... Ry. Let me die quietly among my loved ones. All this infuriates me to such an extent that I am ready to cut down this barracks (God forgive me)
    3. Grenader
      Grenader 19 March 2014 14: 24
      +25
      Quote: TAMERLAN 7
      Konstantin Sivkov, President of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems, Doctor of Military Sciences, commented on the re-equipment of NATO tactical aviation for the use of nuclear weapons, which, in his opinion, could be a sign of preparations for a war with Russia.

      They will never calm down. The anti-Russian rhetoric will never stop, the lies addressed to us will never stop, it will never be calm at our borders. The West has chosen us as a strategic, global enemy and will attack Russia until it gets into a tambourine. We have only one way out - to smash these scum.
      1. Kuvabatake
        Kuvabatake 19 March 2014 14: 51
        +15
        They will calm down only when they have problems in their own territories. In the United States, the southern states will want to live independently, in a geyrope, people will begin to freeze and starve ... Maybe it’s worth helping out? Whatever they were bored with.
        1. Canep
          Canep 19 March 2014 15: 00
          +7
          Quote: Kuvabatake
          Maybe you should help? Whatever they were bored with.

          If ours invested 5 lards in the independence of Texas, then I think the money would not have disappeared as mediocre as the American on the Maidan.
        2. acute
          acute 19 March 2014 20: 03
          +2
          Why should I live and think that the hut will come and it will all end? I don’t want to, I’m tired of it. Putin, put a piston in them so that they all sit and shake in their warm America
      2. acute
        acute 19 March 2014 16: 40
        +17
        When I was young, I was very fond of the "Time Machine2. But now I hate this makara. A rotten bastard (in general, she probably used to be) a fighter in his mouth. But the question is where are they from? Apparently they decided that they are color and the flag of the nation. But the Jewish soul floats out. I am not against Jews, there are a lot of respected people, I am against the slogan "what if anything"
        1. Jury
          Jury 19 March 2014 17: 00
          +6
          I completely agree with you. Not Makar, but a vile type. Already does not represent anything from here and tries to light up somewhere.
          1. Aleksandr68
            Aleksandr68 19 March 2014 19: 34
            0
            such an option is possible "wrote out" at least somehow the rating needs to be raised
        2. Saratoga833
          Saratoga833 19 March 2014 19: 15
          0
          Well, why are you attached to the wretched? From ancient times, they pitied them and even guarded them so that no one accidentally cracked him on the top of his head. No one ever seriously took them. You see, Makarushka’s brain has stopped behind!
          1. acute
            acute 19 March 2014 19: 41
            +1
            He is not . It’s just that his time has passed, but at the top it’s what you want. So he starts to huss, otherwise they will forget. He forgot which country he lives in.
        3. Aleksandr68
          Aleksandr68 19 March 2014 19: 32
          0
          Yes. That’s someone I didn’t expect. I myself have a line: "Aesthetes do not like me very much ... because I am not at war with the regime .." I agree with you completely
        4. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 20 March 2014 04: 53
          0
          it’s not necessary to look for Jews in our troubles, this is crap ..
        5. washi
          washi 20 March 2014 12: 05
          -1
          Quote: akut
          When I was young, I was very fond of the "Time Machine2. But now I hate this makara. A rotten bastard (in general, she probably used to be) a fighter in his mouth. But the question is where are they from? Apparently they decided that they are color and nation flag

          And you remember the story: the Decembrists (we want to go to Europe, but we didn’t give our lands to the peasants and they liberated a few from the fortress, and even then they simply drove them out of the land), Narodnaya Volya (it’s said about them: they are terribly far from the people) and then went direct financing from the west. Why, according to the History of the CPSU, was the party organized at the 2nd congress (held in London), and not at the 1st? They started giving money.
          Why is Tagged (aka Misha the Wallet since the time of Stavropol, who was caught on a bribe during a visit to South Korea) living in the West?
          Bulk with the company (read for yourself: http: //takie.org/news/tajnye_vstrechi_navalnogo_i_sponsorov_popali_na_video
          (2014-03-19-9501)
          Russians are not only not giving up, but not for sale.
          As it has been repeatedly written: Russian is not a nationality, but a state of mind. And as it was written in Andrei Varj's article: Kadyrov is more Russian than modern "Russians" in Ukraine, and in Russia as well.
          Who can call Russian Nemtsov, Prokhorov, etc.? For me, a Caucasian, Central Asian, or Chinese is closer, perceiving the same values, as I am, than any Natsiks, liberalists, or simply corrupt ones, sitting in the chairs of different leaders.
          You can't steal everything, and where to put the money? Give it to the children - then the little ones who are not adapted to work grow up (how many have already seen, and we see finger-pointing and stupid "heirs" not adapted to real life), but occupying considerable posts and positions.
          Do you want to have well-bred children?
          In the pre-Roman times all were required to Serve.
          Peasants, artisans, warriors from childhood learned to work and serve.
          Why do the Rich babysit? Give your heirs to an orphanage, then to a boarding school, then to Suvorov or vocational school. And then, if you have enough mind, then the university, to the free faculty.
          If there is enough money, then allocate finances for the repair and maintenance of the above institutions.
          I just do not want repetitions of the uprisings that arose after the announcement of the manifesto "On the freedom of the nobility."
      3. niki233
        niki233 19 March 2014 19: 32
        +1
        Quote: Ross
        And here's what BOB thinks about the current moment.


        1000+ good
        1. nerd.su
          nerd.su 20 March 2014 13: 05
          0
          What a strange one. What madhouse did this Pyakin come from?
      4. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 20 March 2014 04: 52
        0
        he didn’t choose, as long as we exist as an enemy they will be consolidated - nothing unites so much as a common enemy, we don’t even need a single currency
    4. VeteranS
      VeteranS 19 March 2014 14: 26
      +11
      The United States and the West, of course, are still hysterical, like the Pusek group, but they are still not suicides, because, as it recently became known, the Strategic Missile Forces has a Perimeter project, according to which, in the event of an attack on Russia, even a physical the destruction of people, this system automatically directs all nuclear warheads in the air, in space, on land and at sea to the United States and Western Europe, turning them into nuclear dust. Do well-fed burghers and American businessmen need it? If it were not for Russia's nuclear Shield, we would have been attacked by NATO long ago.
      1. shatu
        shatu 19 March 2014 16: 14
        +2
        Quote: VeteranS
        as it became known recently, the Strategic Missile Forces has a project "Perimeter"

        Recently about "Perimeter" only confirmed that it exists.
        And so it has long been known, here on the site for 2011 was an article:
        http://topwar.ru/618-informaciya-dlya-razmyshleniya-oruzhie-vozmezdiya.html

        Yes, and in post-apocalyptic (damn it, I broke my head, how to write, I had to look in the internet for how to spell, although it is perceived on the fly :) books, this topic is often found.
      2. Foxmara
        Foxmara 19 March 2014 21: 04
        +2
        Quote: VeteranS
        as it became known recently, the Strategic Missile Forces has a project "Perimeter

        it was known for a long time who was supposed to - they knew. We also have something to offer via satellites. In fact, we can destroy any satellite above us and we don't even need to launch rockets like the Chinese. Well, without communication, the Americans will no longer be able to fight. Look - the British can not fight without diapers and at minus 8 degrees)) the bells are ringing!
        1. yastr
          yastr 21 March 2014 13: 40
          0
          Moreover, there are means to clear the orbit of all satellites;)
      3. washi
        washi 20 March 2014 12: 11
        0
        Quote: VeteranS
        The United States and the West, of course, are still hysterical, like the Pusek group, but they are still not suicides, because, as it recently became known, the Strategic Missile Forces has a Perimeter project, according to which, in the event of an attack on Russia, even a physical the destruction of people, this system automatically directs all nuclear warheads in the air, in space, on land and at sea to the United States and Western Europe, turning them into nuclear dust. Do well-fed burghers and American businessmen need it? If it were not for Russia's nuclear Shield, we would have been attacked by NATO long ago.

        What does "Perimeter" have to do with it?
        Just abroad is not one.
        This is what GDP plays. Well done.
        And given the resignation of the Novosibirsk governor, he still manages to work inside the country (although this is the prerogative of Medvedev)
    5. elmi
      elmi 19 March 2014 14: 26
      +6
      Quote: TAMERLAN 7
      re-equipment of tactical aviation of NATO for use of the nuclear weapon

      If so, then this is another attempt by NATO to intimidate Russia, so that after Crimea we would not even think to burrow into southeast Ukraine. Only these scarecrows act on dwarf, weak states. They hope for a "Caribbean crisis-2" type - we are on the brink of a nuclear war, in the expectation that in response to threats we will sell ourselves and go to negotiations, which means concessions on Ukraine. Let the fuss, you will not cheat us on the chaff, and we will bring nuclear weapons into combat the state is not difficult. And the question is who will be more afraid.
    6. oblako
      oblako 19 March 2014 14: 45
      +3
      Something like this should be "danced" off the coast of America. In the USSR, this is exactly what they answered ... Ritually, so that it would be discouraging ... But will we pull it out ...
      1. TAMERLAN 7
        TAMERLAN 7 19 March 2014 14: 51
        +10
        Quote: oblako
        Something like this should be "danced" off the coast of America

        I think Russia will not have to wait for an answer!

      2. stroporez
        stroporez 19 March 2014 17: 01
        +5
        Quote: oblako
        But will we stretch it ...
        ------- but sho, there is a choice ????????
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    8. mamont5
      mamont5 19 March 2014 16: 36
      +3
      Quote: TAMERLAN 7
      may be a sign of preparation for a war with Russia.

      And they never put off plans for a war with Russia. Only the point plays all the time. And suddenly we will have time to answer, so much so that it will not seem a little. Therefore, the Perimeter system was immediately called an "inhuman weapon".
      1. raven75
        raven75 19 March 2014 16: 58
        +2
        "Perimeter" passed Gorbach, 3,14dor. In general, because of the betrayal, this system became known in the West, which raised a howl. Well, yes, of course, they can kill everyone and everything, but them, no, no. They are "civilized nation". It seems that we are now again going against the next "civilized nation". The last time was the Germans (the French before last), now ... Let's fight, guys?
    9. tennis
      tennis 19 March 2014 17: 37
      0
      Quote: TAMERLAN 7
      Concerned about the following:
      Konstantin Sivkov, President of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems, Doctor of Military Sciences, commented on the re-equipment of NATO tactical aviation for the use of nuclear weapons, which, in his opinion, could be a sign of preparations for a war with Russia.
      In this context, the sudden decision of the American leadership to build up the potential of tactical nuclear weapons in Europe is very indicative. It is planned to equip the F-16 and Tornado fighters of the air forces of five NATO countries with equipment that allows the use of B61-12 nuclear bombs. Which is very significant, they are supposed to equip the airplanes of countries that are considered today non-nuclear: Belgium, the Netherlands, Turkey, Germany and Italy. The re-equipment of the aircraft is expected to be completed by the 2018 year. It is planned to equip all prospective F-35 fighter jets with the same equipment. It is obvious that this work is not just being done. If airplanes are given the opportunity to use nuclear weapons, then there are plans to do so.

      I think this is Obama’s ritual menacing dance! All the same - it’s unpleasant.


      Eck, where did you get it, my friend, as a famous character from "The Inspector General". And the most amazing thing is that someone has stamped the pluses like on a printing press.
    10. Ross
      Ross 19 March 2014 17: 39
      +4
      And here's what BOB thinks about the current moment.

    11. stroporez
      stroporez 19 March 2014 18: 19
      0
      Quote: TAMERLAN 7
      the decision of the American leadership to build up the potential of tactical nuclear weapons in Europe. It is planned to equip the F-16 and Tornado fighters of the air forces of five NATO countries with equipment that allows the use of B61-12 nuclear bombs. Which is very significant, they are supposed to equip the airplanes of countries that are considered today non-nuclear: Belgium, the Netherlands, Turkey, Germany and Italy. The re-equipment of the aircraft is expected to be completed by 2018.
      --------- from you, grandmother, and START-3 ..............
    12. Foxmara
      Foxmara 19 March 2014 20: 58
      0
      Quote: TAMERLAN 7
      It is planned to equip the F-16 and Tornado fighters of the air forces of five NATO countries with equipment allowing the use of B61-12 nuclear bombs

      It is possible:
      1. just a concussion - like we are right now sanctions ..
      2. an attempt to somehow build up their nuclear charges, the missiles are already old, and strategic bombers are even older, while new invisibles are visible on our radars as a Christmas tree, and only bombs can be used, i.e. should be included in the area of ​​our air defense, that .. well, you understand)
      3. just another cut. I would like to hear the opinion of the pilots as much as possible.
      In addition, the nuclear industry in the United States ordered a long life, those bombs that exist may not explode, but they don’t make new ones and it seems they have already forgotten how))

      In general, I would not take it seriously. But what to perceive - these are microbiological laboratories on our borders - in Georgia and other countries = everywhere the Yankees are developing something.
    13. Saburov
      Saburov 20 March 2014 03: 00
      +2
      Yes, this is nonsense, as an officer is saying. First of all, pay attention to the phrase: re-equipping NATO tactical aircraft for the use of nuclear weapons: and this is in conditions of complete control of the western borders of the Russian Federation by our air defense, they are not suicides, it would be simpler and much cheaper Put Pershing or Tomogawks to drive to the borders, and we will only confirm the strength of the Russian Weapons and our air defense will have practical exercises with firing. Secondly, the B-61-12 are just a few prototypes for testing how to re-equip aircraft if it is even a thief they didn’t accept or eliminate the defects that arise in any military product under conditions of operation in the army, so if they are re-equipped, then B-61-11. And thirdly, how do you imagine NATO’s conflict with Russia? When almost all tactical means of the Russian Federation make it possible to get anywhere in Europe, we are not some Papuans, and besides, Western military analysts still wonder how many tactical cruise missiles and charges the Russian Federation has, since since the USSR, from these data, the privacy stamp has not been removed.
      1. washi
        washi 20 March 2014 12: 14
        0
        Quote: Saburov
        Yes, this is nonsense, as an officer I say.

        I agree, but the RSD needs to be restored.
        They are against Iran and the DPRK (possessing RSD) are doing missile defense, and we are RSD. It is an adequate response.
  2. Tumbleweed
    Tumbleweed 19 March 2014 14: 13
    +16
    There are traders and laymen, in Russia, citizens of a great country. In England, they are now calculating how much of their debts Kiev can write off due to the annexation of Crimea to Russia. The figure of $ 5 has been announced. Strange, but Crimea is more precious to me than this mythical figure.
    Here from here: http://www.inosmi.ru/sngbaltia/20140319/218738327.html

    Perhaps this is unlikely to comfort anyone much when enemy tanks are on the border, but some observers believe that Kiev will be able to transfer at least $ 5 billion of its debt to Russia, because Moscow essentially stole part of the Ukrainian territory and energy , as well as bases and military equipment.


    I finally finished off this passage:
    Then, there is a rental of a naval base in Sevastopol, which, according to bilateral agreements of 1997 and 2010, annually brought Kiev $ 98 million in cash. Now, in connection with the formal separation of Crimea from Ukraine, it is completely unclear whether Russia is obliged to continue to pay for the base.
    1. sscha
      sscha 19 March 2014 14: 20
      +13
      And finally, the meaning of Baba Vanga’s prophecies about saving the world becomes clear. where is the leading role in Russia !!! hi
      1. Siberian19
        Siberian19 19 March 2014 14: 42
        +15
        First off? Argentine President condemns Western position on situation in Crimea

        Argentinean leader Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner recalled that the UN charter spells out the right of peoples to self-determination, and this rule should apply to all countries.



        Kirchner compared the situation in Crimea with another case in modern history. So, a year ago, a referendum was held on the Falkland Islands - this is a disputed territory claimed by Argentina and the United Kingdom, in 1982 the confrontation even resulted in an open military conflict, Channel One clarifies.

        Britain then defended the Falklands by force of arms, and in March last year, almost all the inhabitants in the plebiscite spoke out to remain in the kingdom. Then, as Kirchner recalled, the UN did not dispute the legitimacy of this vote.

        “Many major powers that have secured the right of self-determination for the Falkland people now do not want to do the same with respect to Crimea. How can you call yourself the guarantors of world stability if you do not apply the same standards to everyone? It turns out that the Crimeans can’t express their will, but can the residents of the Falklands? There is no logic in that! ” She said.
        1. raven75
          raven75 19 March 2014 17: 22
          +3
          Actually, then Britain raked pretty well, very badly, and the leader (or leader) of Argentina reminds her of that. Yes, and rightly so. Aggregate West, the United States (well, where without them) entered into that conflict very much intervened, very much.
        2. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 19 March 2014 17: 29
          +4
          Quote: Siberian19
          It turns out that the Crimeans can’t express their will, but can the residents of the Falklands? There is no logic in that! ” She said.

          This is the reason for the "revision" of the Falklen status ....
          Here is such an ambush laughing
    2. Manager
      Manager 19 March 2014 14: 22
      +12
      Quote: tumbleweed
      Strange, but Crimea is more precious to me than this mythical figure.

      So I have never seen such money, and now Crimea, I will see my children and grandchildren with great-grandchildren every summer.
    3. Horn
      Horn 19 March 2014 14: 49
      +3
      There are traders and laymen, in Russia, citizens of a great country. In England, they are now calculating how much of their debts Kiev can write off due to the annexation of Crimea to Russia. The figure of $ 5 has been announced. Strange, but Crimea is more precious to me than this mythical figure.

      - Well, what are you so! Wow, Barak Huseynovich must recapture the money spent on the annexation of Crimea to Russia ...
    4. Kuvabatake
      Kuvabatake 19 March 2014 14: 53
      0
      Maybe to pay for Finland ??? laughing
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 19 March 2014 15: 36
        +2
        Quote: Kuvabatake
        Maybe to pay for Finland ???

        Bulk cheaper. smile
      2. stroporez
        stroporez 19 March 2014 17: 05
        +1
        Quote: Kuvabatake
        Maybe to pay for Finland ???
        -------------- mushrooms? Petruha has already paid ........
        1. washi
          washi 20 March 2014 12: 20
          +1
          Quote: stroporez
          Quote: Kuvabatake
          Maybe to pay for Finland ???
          -------------- mushrooms? Petruha has already paid ........

          He paid for the Baltic states. Yes, and Kiev from Rzeczpospolita bought for cash.
          Now we need to demand money back.
    5. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 19 March 2014 15: 35
      0
      Quote: tumbleweed
      In England, they are now calculating how much of their debts Kiev can write off due to the annexation of Crimea to Russia. The figure of $ 5 has been announced.

      As soon as they announce this figure, they immediately recognize that our Crimea. And even 5 lard is nothing compared to our land.
    6. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 19 March 2014 19: 26
      +1
      Paying for your own territory (no matter which state) is the greatest nonsense!
      1. washi
        washi 20 March 2014 12: 23
        0
        Quote: Saratoga833
        Paying for your own territory (no matter which state) is the greatest nonsense!

        From the speech of the GDP, I realized: If the Crimea illegally withdrew from Ukraine, then Ukraine also illegally withdrew from the USSR. As well as other republics
    7. Foxmara
      Foxmara 19 March 2014 21: 09
      0
      Quote: tumbleweed
      in connection with the formal separation of Crimea from Ukraine, it is completely unclear whether Russia is obliged to continue to pay for the base.

      they are clinical))) Such a sucker can not be found in the world already. The junters apparently did not have more than a month to live, since the states promised help no earlier than April.
    8. washi
      washi 20 March 2014 12: 18
      0
      Quote: tumbleweed
      . In England, they are now calculating how much of their debts Kiev can write off due to the annexation of Crimea to Russia. The figure of $ 5 has been announced. Strange, but Crimea is more precious to me than this mythical figure.

      If you count ALL the debts of Ukraine to us, then we can fully redeem it.
  3. Iron Mike
    Iron Mike 19 March 2014 14: 16
    +35
    Be silent, shameful Europe and do not shake your rights!
    You are just an ass in Russia, but you think that your head!
    F.I. Tyutchev (1867)
    1. Commandor
      Commandor 19 March 2014 14: 24
      +21
      For the verse, it would be possible to put a plus to you, but ... the picture you brought shows that the Russian is not thinking about the geopolitical situation in the world (there are such citizens). In this figure, so to speak this country designated within the Moscow region only. To call the southeastern part of Ukraine Khokhlov, too, the language does not turn. Who coined the term? In Ukraine, honest and loyal people remained. And now, in this context, are you posting pictures so that they can see the fact of your attitude towards them?
      You must be more careful comrade.
      The enemy is insidious and cunning and catches on such trifles.
      With respect.
      1. Iron Mike
        Iron Mike 19 March 2014 14: 27
        +6
        Yes, I agree, an oversight. Unfortunately, I can’t change it. hi
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      6. Iron Mike
        Iron Mike 19 March 2014 15: 15
        +7
        Thank you for your vigilance, comrade. Here, it seems, is a more ideologically correct map. With com. greetings!
      7. shatu
        shatu 19 March 2014 16: 21
        0
        Quote: Commandor
        the picture you have shown shows what the distant (there are such citizens) Russians think about the geopolitical situation in the world.

        I agree, it is not clear why the people are in favor. This view is inherent in the Pudnos "elite". What are you, all the plusses, better than such ..mm, bad radishes?
      8. mamont5
        mamont5 19 March 2014 16: 53
        +4
        Quote: Commandor
        To call the southeastern part of Ukraine Khokhlov, too, the language will not turn. Who coined the term?

        As far as I know, the term appeared when Ukraine entered Russia and Ukrainians began to meet with Russians. Ukrainians called Ukrainians Cossacks because of the long strands of hair on their shaved head (forelock,). And the Ukrainians of the Russian clerks (Moscow officials) called him a p or like a dac because of a goatee.
      9. Setrac
        Setrac 19 March 2014 16: 58
        0
        Quote: Commandor
        For the verse, it would be possible to put a plus to you, but ... the picture you brought shows that the Russian is not thinking about the geopolitical situation in the world (there are such citizens).

        That's who put you nineteen pluses. The Russians have nothing to do with this picture, you are our homegrown analyst, carefully read what they called on this map and you will understand who the author of this garbage is.
        Quote: Commandor
        To call the southeastern part of Ukraine Khokhlov, too, the language does not turn.

        Afftors have changed their language to call themselves "scientists".
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 19 March 2014 14: 44
      +12
      Quote: Iron Mike
      Be silent, shameful Europe and do not shake your rights!

      The West has shown complete disrespect for Ukrainian democracy - Columnist for The Guardian Columnist for The Guardian newspaper Neil Clarke is outraged by the behavior of the West towards Ukraine. “In recent weeks, the West has once again shown complete disrespect for democracy by supporting the violent and illegal coup that ousted the democratically elected President Yanukovych in February. This demonstrates their disrespect for democracy. Why couldn’t we wait for the elections scheduled for 2015? Now their disrespect for democracy is expressed in the condemnation of this referendum, although the referendum is democracy in its purest form, "Clark said.
      Clarke notes that if Western countries continue to claim that it is illegal and cannot be recognized, it will make them look even more wacky than they are now. “I think people all over Europe and around the world are beginning to realize that the United States and the European Union are not interested in democracy, because when the people express their will through voting, as now in Crimea, they simply reject it. And, in my opinion, they have a choice: either to recognize the reunification of Crimea with Russia, or to continue making fools of themselves. ", - the journalist considers. Recall that the United States and EU countries did not recognize the results of the referendum in Crimea.
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-141303.html
    3. Roman 57 rus
      Roman 57 rus 19 March 2014 15: 22
      0
      RZHUNIMAGU !!!
  4. Sma11
    Sma11 19 March 2014 14: 17
    +24
    There is one people that Herodotus calls hyperboreans. The current name of this people is Muscovy. You can not trust their terrible decline, which will last many centuries. Hyperboreans are aware of both strong decline and enormous prosperity ... In this country of Hyperboreans, whom no one has ever thought of as a country in which something great can happen, the Great Cross will shine on the humiliated and rejected. ”
    Paracelsus (1493-1541). His Book “Oracles”:
    1. Yuri Sev Caucasus
      Yuri Sev Caucasus 19 March 2014 15: 25
      +6
      At the beginning of the third millennium, north of the 48th parallel, the most ancient faith will revive, which will unite the nation so that the west, south and east shudder. These northerners are powerful in nature, and only a foreign religion rooted them.
      M. Nostradamus.
      1. Oleg14774
        Oleg14774 19 March 2014 16: 31
        +3
        Quote: Yuri Sev Caucasus
        these northerners are powerful in nature, and only the religion of others alienated them. M. Nostradamus.

        And what religion makes us angry ?! They hit on one cheek, turn the other (but I will not quote the continuation of this old Russian proverb further, and there I will not let you hit on the other), who will remember the old one out of sight (and in the old proverbs there is a continuation, and who will FORGET, both). And if you read the Bible thoroughly, then you can find out there (especially about interest and about the kings who will work for God's chosen people). I can add that in the old religion initially humans were identified with the sons of God, and in the current religion - slaves. I think there is no need to explain if from infancy to inspire a person that he is a slave. This will be fixed on a subconscious level and his behavior will correspond. The Son of God will not rob and destroy his planet-home of the Father, the slave is on the drum, because he is a slave and he does not care about the "master's house".
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 19 March 2014 17: 35
          +1
          Quote: Oleg147741
          And what religion robs us ?!

          Well, even then Nostradamus thought in terms of those times when religion was the strongest stimulus for the unity of peoples (on which the Rzeczpospolita "stumbled").
          Today one can only assume that the unity of peoples under the flag of the Russian world can be considered a "new religion" ...
          1. Oleg14774
            Oleg14774 19 March 2014 17: 52
            +2
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            Today one can only assume that the unity of peoples under the flag of the Russian world can be considered a "new religion" ...

            The right religion is one that raises the spirit, learn to honor fathers and grandfathers, teaches you to remember the great history of your people, and which makes you understand the greatness of the nation, civilization, regardless of who you were born to, unites the people!
            In this regard, one can perceive the symbol of the Russian Flag as a symbol of the new Worldview Civilization! The civilization in which the main ones will be those real (and not invented by Westerners with a sick psychology and perverse worldview) values ​​and correct laws that are the same in all peoples, in all countries and even (we all understand that we are not alone in the universe) in the Universe .
          2. Rohon
            Rohon 19 March 2014 20: 11
            0
            there was a religion of its own, the Vedic, but Russia was baptized by force, so think about what Nostradamus said ...
        2. Yuri Sev Caucasus
          Yuri Sev Caucasus 19 March 2014 21: 55
          0
          Nostradamus meant pure Orthodoxy without an admixture of Christianity, probably.
  5. Sergg
    Sergg 19 March 2014 14: 18
    +5
    The growth of the economy and consumer demand, as well as the unbridled nature of morals, determines the mentality and morality of the European citizen. Over the past 20 years, the same worldview has been imposed in Russia. What we and future generations will be we decide together today and every day.
  6. GDP
    GDP 19 March 2014 14: 18
    +23
    For the first time I see such a unity of power between Russia and the People. If this unity can be strengthened and continue to act in line with the ideas of national greatness and the will of the people, then we will become an invincible and great power!
    1. Iron Mike
      Iron Mike 19 March 2014 14: 55
      +2
      Do not decrease, do not add. This has not been a hundred years.
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  7. ZU-23
    ZU-23 19 March 2014 14: 18
    +3
    They do not believe in the result of voting, so of course if they always vote around 50x50
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    2. alexng
      alexng 19 March 2014 14: 37
      +2
      They have a sharpened calculator for this and can’t take it any other way - they are advanced, or rather, they will be retracted.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 19 March 2014 17: 37
        +1
        Quote: alexneg
        more precisely will be retracted.

        To one place known to LGBT people laughing
  8. svetlomor
    svetlomor 19 March 2014 14: 21
    +2
    We will be a nation for a very long time, because so much more needs to be returned, the maximum program is Poland, Finland, Alaska.
    1. Slavapom
      Slavapom 19 March 2014 15: 30
      +8
      We do not need Poland, and categorically. Poland has more problems than benefits.
      1. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx 19 March 2014 16: 10
        +6
        Quote: Slavapom
        We do not need Poland, and categorically. Poland has more problems than benefits.

        +1

        In fact, if we talk about lands, then in addition to part of the lost during the collapse of the USSR, we do not need much. Almost nothing. It’s enough to develop your land for centuries.
        Well there ... with Ukraine to solve the problem, with Lithuania, Transnistria. Well, maybe something else on the little things.
        The main thing is that there isn’t not to scam, but to strengthen and develop as much as possible. Find the right national idea and comb ideological education so that people have dreams other than consumer ones (right up to the exploration of outer space). Raise social programs to such a level that people would like to live and have children. Of course, we are used to tightening the belt for the sake of great goals, but it seems to me that it is time to tie up with this practice and move on to a form of capitalism with a socially oriented person.
        Then the devil himself will not be afraid of us and everyone will immediately want to be friends and associate with us.
        1. stroporez
          stroporez 19 March 2014 17: 13
          +1
          Quote: Al_lexx
          Then the devil himself will not be afraid of us
          - yes WE and so did not strive for it laughing
          1. Al_lexx
            Al_lexx 19 March 2014 17: 31
            +1
            Quote: stroporez
            Quote: Al_lexx
            Then the devil himself will not be afraid of us
            - yes WE and so did not strive for it laughing

            Конечно.
            I mean, the devil is not so terrible as his little ones.
  9. kotvov
    kotvov 19 March 2014 14: 23
    +13
    Lord, forgive them wretched. They will not when they can not understand my country-RUSSIA.
  10. uhu189
    uhu189 19 March 2014 14: 25
    +1
    The fact that they do not understand us now is not scary, they will understand. Even if they don’t want to, they will be forced to do it. Let them adapt their worldview to ours, it will only benefit them ...
  11. Yuri Sev Caucasus
    Yuri Sev Caucasus 19 March 2014 14: 25
    +3
    As soon as Russia rose from its knees, the bourgeoisie shouted to the whole world!
    He was terrified to shit, because now even chewing gum will not help!
    Paper can endure everything, people never, Pray now for the Lord for your path to nowhere !!!
  12. AleksPol
    AleksPol 19 March 2014 14: 25
    +9
    You can not bend the Russian people to infinity. Here he began to bend, he realized the strength in unity. Result on face
  13. SRC P-15
    SRC P-15 19 March 2014 14: 27
    +21
    A new joke appeared on the net:
    Obama: What alienates us from world domination?
    -Russian, Mr. President ...
    -Legs would push them!
    - God forbid, Mr. President, are you watching the Paralympics?
    1. Kuvabatake
      Kuvabatake 19 March 2014 14: 58
      0
      Yes with us so. The more difficult the more we rest ... yes
  14. Siberian19
    Siberian19 19 March 2014 14: 28
    +2
    Yes, all of Europe understands, just can’t do anything. occupied by the military bases of mattresses and the ruling elite does not have an opinion without regard to Washington!
  15. Coffee_time
    Coffee_time 19 March 2014 14: 30
    +6
    Mind does not understand Russia,
    Until 0,5 is drunk,
    And if you drink 0,5,
    That thing doesn't seem tricky
    An attempt to better understand
    Already smells .. liter!

    R. Trachtenberg
  16. Horst78
    Horst78 19 March 2014 14: 31
    +5
    The Russians did not recognize themselves as losers in the Cold War, which means they consider themselves entitled to their choice and their own path.
    We, like Kutuzov, retreated, but did not give up. And quietly quietly we go back to our lands. Since this is OUR LAND !!!
  17. Kibl
    Kibl 19 March 2014 14: 31
    +3
    Yes, and they will never understand! The brains in a mess up from fear are weak and out of fear !!!!
  18. nas leonid
    nas leonid 19 March 2014 14: 31
    +7
    I share the author's opinion, except for one thing about Gorbachev, because: “I have always fought against the Soviet regime in order to avenge the Trotskyist grandfather,” no one pulled an elderly man by his tongue, unless he was sick?
    1. Jury
      Jury 19 March 2014 17: 41
      +1
      The spotted one must be shot for the collapse of a great country. He brought grief and misfortune to all the peoples of the former USSR. The bastard lives for a long time, but may God see with him what he did.
  19. Arh
    Arh 19 March 2014 14: 33
    +3
    Russia One Such smile Which Is Not Easy To Understand! ! ! * * *
  20. Commandor
    Commandor 19 March 2014 14: 34
    +3
    Quote: VeteranS
    project "Perimeter"

    Found a lot of information .. an interesting project wink
    Perimeter System(Index of the Strategic Missile Forces of the Strategic Missile Forces - 15E601, nicknamed in the West "The Dead Hand", and in the East "The Hand from the Coffin") - the strategic missile forces control system - Strategic Rocket Forces. In the documents she received the name "Perimeter". The system involved the creation of such technical means and software that would make it possible, in any conditions, even the most unfavorable, to bring the order to launch missiles directly to the starting commands. As conceived by the creators of "Perimeter", the system could prepare and launch missiles even if everyone had died and there would have been no one to give the order. It was this component that became unofficially called "The Dead Hand or the Hand from the Coffin."

    Link to the entire article http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/30144/
  21. ssf2257
    ssf2257 19 March 2014 14: 36
    +4
    Mind does not understand Russia,
    Arshin is not common to measure ...
    How Furmanov Chapayu about doctors-konovalah- "Well, they cannot, they cannot"
    1. Alekseir162
      Alekseir162 19 March 2014 14: 45
      +12
      It’s time, e .... and mother, to understand Russia wisely! laughing
      This is not mine, this is Igor Guberman, BUT I AGREE WITH IT.
      1. PN
        PN 19 March 2014 19: 56
        0
        In the photo is the beach of.Yagry wink
  22. semuil
    semuil 19 March 2014 14: 40
    +3
    Boil. Yes and to hell with them.
  23. major071
    major071 19 March 2014 14: 40
    +8
    I will not write anything pathetic. I’ll just say this: We are different, we have a completely different mindset! And if the West has not understood this in the entire history of its existence, the question arises: Do they have brains? laughing
    1. Colonel
      Colonel 19 March 2014 14: 58
      +4
      Quote: major071
      Do they have brains?

      There are, in the back and below. repeat
    2. Colonel
      Colonel 19 March 2014 14: 58
      0
      Quote: major071
      Do they have brains?

      There are, in the back and below. repeat
  24. otschelnik
    otschelnik 19 March 2014 14: 41
    +1
    Cabinet clears the way for EU association agreement with Ukraine

    The federal government cleared the way for signing the political part of the EU association agreement with Ukraine.
    German newspaper Bild.
    c..u am
  25. 341712
    341712 19 March 2014 14: 43
    +18
    It seems to me in the subject:
  26. pensioner
    pensioner 19 March 2014 14: 44
    +3
    Why the West again did not understand Russia
    Yes, because even those who make decisions in individual countries do not know the position of Russia! In light of this, I propose to the President to insist on holding a conditionally Pan-European Conference on the issue of freedom of speech and the removal of censorship restrictions on information. The output should be the consent of all European countries to a free, uncensored presentation of Russia's position on a particular issue through the media controlled by it on the territory of these countries. Then, after some time, we will have at least some chance that some changes will occur in the political environment of Europe towards an adequate perception of Russia's position. Not immediately, of course, but at least there will be hope ...
  27. Coffee_time
    Coffee_time 19 March 2014 14: 44
    +3
    Quote: Commandor
    Quote: VeteranS
    project "Perimeter"

    Found a lot of information .. an interesting project wink
    Perimeter System(Index of the Strategic Missile Forces of the Strategic Missile Forces - 15E601, nicknamed in the West "The Dead Hand", and in the East "The Hand from the Coffin") - the strategic missile forces control system - Strategic Rocket Forces. In the documents she received the name "Perimeter". The system involved the creation of such technical means and software that would make it possible, in any conditions, even the most unfavorable, to bring the order to launch missiles directly to the starting commands. As conceived by the creators of "Perimeter", the system could prepare and launch missiles even if everyone had died and there would have been no one to give the order. It was this component that became unofficially called "The Dead Hand or the Hand from the Coffin."

    Link to the entire article http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/30144/

    WHY RUSSIA "DEAD HAND"?
    KP: - At one time, in our and foreign press there were publications about the Perimeter system
    Which existed in the USSR. And in 2009, the American magazine Wyrett told its readers that this system is functioning and is still alive. This is the rocket that, if everything is lost, takes off and gives the command to all other missiles. And they already automatically take off and hit the desired targets. The "dead hand" in the West is called this system.
    Sergey Karakaev: - And it’s not for nothing that you eat your bread! Yes, the Perimeter system exists today. She is on combat duty. And, when there is a need for a retaliatory strike, when there is no way to bring a signal to some part of the launchers, this command can come from these missiles from the Perimeter ...
    KP: - There was a very interesting remark by Putin at a meeting with the Valdai club. There someone says to him: "You can destroy the United States in about half an hour." But Putin thought and thought and answered: “Actually, faster” ...
    Sergey Karakaev: - I will answer briefly: Vladimir Vladimirovich is right. But I believe that today neither Russia nor the United States are going to destroy each other
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/30144/
    1. Russkiy_Prapor
      Russkiy_Prapor 19 March 2014 15: 05
      +2
      I asked Topol-M where is America now ...? laughing
  28. rasputin17
    rasputin17 19 March 2014 14: 46
    +4
    They ceased to be nations when they became pigeons !!))
  29. Ulairy
    Ulairy 19 March 2014 14: 47
    +3
    Why is this unity so incomprehensible to someone?
    Because it is anti-capitalistic - to oppose your own well-fed belly and the unity of the nation. THEIR ideological capitalism tells you: "Be successful and you will be rich." Our national basis is: "Be a good, decent person." In my opinion, this is how all the generations born before the 90s were brought up (well, before the 17th year, Orthodoxy still interfered with the national idea). They did not manage to completely eradicate all this either by the box, or by McDonald's, or by the buck and the fashion for "successful corporate management". So they are furious, because they have lost a lot of energy, capital and time, and the result is - "they again support unprofitable territories, and even rejoice in their unity! Oh-oh-oh, what a wild people this is - Russians. How else to fight them. ! " Well, try to unleash a war ... (and our tanks will only be stopped by the English Channel, because there are Russians in the army too).
  30. erased
    erased 19 March 2014 14: 48
    +1
    Sorry, lads, bananas are better than dumb. And the freebies are the same. Tepericha, our Russian. And who does not agree - see point one - Russia will use a vigorous bomb if the adversary decides to threaten the country's borders, people, interests and further on the list. In general, little will not seem to anyone. If you want to get a nuclear winter, sign up with a therapist, and then you are welcome - we will not offend anyone. For those who request more than 3 warheads on their head - a gift from the manufacturer - a banana. Paradise pleasure before the torment of hell.
  31. konvalval
    konvalval 19 March 2014 14: 51
    +2
    Quote: ssf2257
    Mind does not understand Russia,
    Arshin is not common to measure ...

    Yes, not Russia, but the West, which has wandered into the jungle of their "civilization" with the loss of all moral norms, cannot be understood. And nevertheless, we do not go to them with our charter. What do they need with us? Why climb if no one asks?
  32. mountain
    mountain 19 March 2014 14: 52
    +2
    Why the West again did not understand Russia.
    Yes, they all understand and cannot be measured, and there is no strength and mind to cope with such a colossus, and whatever they do, everything turns against them, themselves. It is time to measure and live their own vile life, but they understand that sooner or later they will come for them.
  33. Pastor
    Pastor 19 March 2014 14: 56
    +3
    Quote: sscha
    And finally, the meaning of Baba Vanga’s prophecies about saving the world becomes clear. where is the leading role in Russia !!! hi

    and the old woman Vanga predicted a triple alliance in the future: Russia-China-India, and they will rule the world ..
    events of recent weeks: India openly supported the actions of the Russian president, senators, Duma and people .. China, in its usual manner, pointedly and restrainedly supported .. so we are already moving towards this alliance ..
  34. SHOCK.
    SHOCK. 19 March 2014 15: 01
    +2
    The West is angry precisely because it is untenable in front of Russia. All countries of the world see that the advance of the West on Russia ends in defeat, flight and loss of territory. And no “Western calibers” will help here if the Russian president is not Yeltsin and the foreign minister is not Kozyrev. A corrupt skin and an alcoholic are the only combination that Russia can never bear.

    Arabic author of the XNUMXth century Abu Obend Al-Bekri wrote: “... The Slavs are so powerful and terrible that if they were not divided into many generations and genera, no one in the world could resist them.”

    So you need to unite, the benefit is that now there is someone around.
  35. Flinky
    Flinky 19 March 2014 15: 02
    0
    Yes, they there all the brains for a long time mourned. And they will never understand. Unless getting a bullet.
  36. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 19 March 2014 15: 07
    +2
    Why in the West again did not understand Russia: they have forgotten how to be a nation

    No wonder ... if they are catastrophically losing the concept of MOM - DAD, and the concept of HONOR and CONSCIENCE has long been lost, then what nations can we talk about? Today they are "advanced", they have OTHER VALUES in LIFE.
  37. Commandor
    Commandor 19 March 2014 15: 08
    +9
    Help Europe understand Russia laughing
  38. raven75
    raven75 19 March 2014 15: 12
    +4
    And I ... And I have ... Damn, a pretty girl behind our flag is in the photo of the article. I would only shake antiquity because of her, would give an opportunity.
  39. igor-pchelkin
    igor-pchelkin 19 March 2014 15: 16
    +4
    Friend, the truth is simple. The West understands perfectly well that if Russia-Russia is alive, then they cannot live. He has long understood. And he did, and will do everything so that we are not on the planet. He tried to kill us with just a weapon. Result: whoever comes to us with a sword is from the sword. Does not exceed. He tried to kill us with religion. Twisted by Christianity. You are all God's slaves. Humble yourself, endure - you will go to paradise. It did not work out. Sergius of Radonezh filled Christianity with Orthodoxy. Now they are killing our souls with democracy and globalization. All people are equal. A nation is a relic of the past. Pederasty, alcohol, tobacco, abortion - the norm. Money doesn't smell. Everything is possible if you want.
    What to do? And also everything is simple. To keep our swords sharp and fast, to think with our own heads, and to live in good conscience, as the soul commands. And no one will ever defeat us. We can be defeated only in one case - if we surrender ourselves!
    1. stroporez
      stroporez 19 March 2014 17: 23
      +2
      I have been tormented by the question since the days of the Soviet Union ----- where does such hatred towards us in the West come from. Moreover, hatred, not that consciously understood by the mind, but innate, literally at the level of genes ............. ... and from Shaw I thought. in ancient times, it seems that our ancestors didn’t shake this world. the descendants of our enemies at the genetic level remember ...... they therefore turn and destroy our history, we didn’t remember Schaub .. ..because if we recall ------ everyone will be more ....... am
    2. Jury
      Jury 19 March 2014 17: 50
      +1
      But we are Russians, we never give up and do not abandon ours. Tell me the vaunted American soldiers blew themselves up with the last grenade or fired their last bullet so as not to be captured? I have nowhere to hear about it, they fight only with bombs and rockets and then peacefully population. Finished scum.
  40. Roman 57 rus
    Roman 57 rus 19 March 2014 15: 34
    +4
    THEIR ideological capitalism tells you: "Be successful and you will be rich." Our national base
    reads: "Be a good, decent person I totally agree!"
  41. Black
    Black 19 March 2014 15: 37
    +2
    Honestly, I don’t really like it when we start talking about some kind of exclusivity, about the special role of Russia, etc.
    There is a desire to live. There is no desire to disturb others from living.
    The first is contrary to the goals of the Anglo-Saxons,
    and the second misleads them that we are weak.
  42. Monk
    Monk 19 March 2014 15: 42
    +1
    Quote: TAMERLAN 7
    Concerned about the following:
    Konstantin Sivkov, President of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems, Doctor of Military Sciences, commented on the re-equipment of NATO tactical aviation for the use of nuclear weapons, which, in his opinion, could be a sign of preparations for a war with Russia.
    In this context, the sudden decision of the American leadership to build up the potential of tactical nuclear weapons in Europe is very indicative. It is planned to equip the F-16 and Tornado fighters of the air forces of five NATO countries with equipment that allows the use of B61-12 nuclear bombs. Which is very significant, they are supposed to equip the airplanes of countries that are considered today non-nuclear: Belgium, the Netherlands, Turkey, Germany and Italy. The re-equipment of the aircraft is expected to be completed by the 2018 year. It is planned to equip all prospective F-35 fighter jets with the same equipment. It is obvious that this work is not just being done. If airplanes are given the opportunity to use nuclear weapons, then there are plans to do so.

    I think this is Obama’s ritual menacing dance! All the same - it’s unpleasant.



    NATO troops are ready to serve under the contract, but they are not ready to die for money for the sake of ridiculous ideals purchased ..
  43. Deadmen
    Deadmen 19 March 2014 15: 42
    +2
    So our country is understood only when they clean the scoreboard. Only then glimpses of the brain appear.
  44. Oleg Prophetic
    Oleg Prophetic 19 March 2014 15: 44
    +2
    The United States does not like independents. Because if they love us, that means trouble and slaves in Russia
  45. Voenruk
    Voenruk 19 March 2014 15: 50
    +1
    We must live together, build a new Russia together. Then happiness and prosperity will come. Peace will come to every home.
  46. pushman
    pushman 19 March 2014 15: 53
    0
    The realities of life lie in the diversity of the social structure of the world. Therefore, the confrontation between strong geopolitical players (the USA and Russia) is natural, while observing the universal positive trend in the development of society. This is the norm of the progressive development of human society. At present, RUSSIA is restoring its potential as a world leader.
    It scares them. And in me the feeling of pride is seething in my Motherland and its president, V.V. Putin
  47. Albus
    Albus 19 March 2014 16: 14
    +1
    Why is this unity so incomprehensible to someone? Because it really is based on the categories of another reality.

    Their reality is competition among individuals, our reality is the solidarity of the people. And this reality of ours is feared in the West. The West perceives Russians as a warrior people who are not predisposed for "peaceful competition" within the framework of their liberal law, because economic competition with us is constantly growing into political competition, and then into armed confrontation with their defeat. This is understandable because a solidary state is always a successful military state. It is clear that by hook or by crook the West will continue to try to separate in us everything that can be separated. And we will not allow them to do this once again. Masks have been dropped ...
  48. mamont5
    mamont5 19 March 2014 16: 37
    0
    I think that they will have to be surprised again in the near future. Let's not deceive their aspirations!
  49. Vladimir_NN
    Vladimir_NN 19 March 2014 16: 51
    +2
    Review of the reaction to the speech of V.V. Putin's British Press (bbcrussian.com)

    Guardian

    It justifies NATO in Kosovo (because there were many victims), and sees no analogies with the Crimea (Putin invented everything about fascists and pogroms). They scoff at attempts to call on the allies the people of Germany, China, in general:
    ... This is rhetoric rather in 1914 and not in 2014. Before everyone's eyes, Putin's Russia has become a revenge-seeking power ...
    ... today what Russia has done should be called its name - neo-imperialism ...


    Daily Mail

    ... An uncompromising autocrat stood up and delivered a loud speech ...
    ... voters were intimidated by the threatening tanks ...
    ... Putin, speaking yesterday before the Duma, seems to have borrowed many arguments from the Fuhrer’s speech to the Reichstag after he captured the Sudetenland in 1938 ...


    Daily Telegraph

    ... The crime of Russia should not go unpunished ...
    ... Whatever he says, it should be remembered that it is a crime - the theft of Russia's sovereign territory, the inviolability of whose borders Moscow promised to support ...


    Financial Times

    ... what Vladimir Putin has done is called the seizure of territory, violation of the sovereignty of a neighboring country and a challenge to the international order ...
    ... by his actions, Vladimir Putin closed the 20-year-old head of cooperation between Russia and the West. Europe cannot respond to its aggression with only symbolic gestures. It's time for real action ...


    Sun

    ... Crimea was annexed, and the referendum on independence was fictitious ...
    ... Sanctions must be painful and perpetual. Russia should be expelled from the GXNUMX. We will never recognize her rule over territory captured by force ...

    SUMMARY: no desire to UNDERSTAND, a pronounced desire to put in place! Our TRUTH DOESN'T NEED THEM! Everything is expected!
  50. mamont5
    mamont5 19 March 2014 17: 04
    0
    Here is another example of misunderstanding:
    “The German media are now cautiously discussing the possibility of resolving the situation through an“ exchange ”with a“ castling. ”The West, in a treaty manner, guarantees Russia a refusal to expand NATO into Ukrainian territory. The Kremlin, in turn, guarantees the inviolability of the borders, provided that Crimea remains behind Russia. Crimea, thus, becomes Russia's payment for Ukraine’s association agreement with the EU. Kiev’s own position of puppets in Kiev is not particularly interested in. Kiev’s concern about the position of Western patrons last Tuesday was expressed in the fact that the illegitimate Prime Minister of Ukraine Arseniy Yatsenyuk spoke in Russian in his address to the South-East. "
    http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1780193.html
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 19 March 2014 17: 10
      0
      Quote: mamont5
      Here is another example of misunderstanding:

      These Germans pretend that they are puppeteers, but in fact the puppeteer is the United States, and Germany (and Europe) is a puppet.
    2. stroporez
      stroporez 19 March 2014 17: 52
      +2
      Quote: mamont5
      The West, by contract, guarantees Russia the refusal to expand NATO into Ukraine.
      have not learned we doh west ............ which I guaranteed .............