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Two thousand will not be canceled. President extended financial-recruiting experiment

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Two thousand will not be canceled. President extended financial-recruiting experiment

The President of Russia decided to extend the financial experiment with payments to conscripts.


By presidential decree N 136 this year and next, they will receive at least two thousand rubles a month. This practice, we recall, was first introduced in January 2012-th in order to unify the money allowance of soldiers-recruits.

The point of the experiment was to stimulate the service of all conscripts without exception. To do this, the upper level of the draft salary was temporarily raised to 2 thousand rubles and the salaries of not only junior commanders and high-class specialists, but also ordinary recruits, were brought up to it.

Considering that in the army they are all on full state support, this step still looks quite attractive to children from low-wage families. For a year of military service on a Mercedes, soldiers, of course, do not accumulate. But the monthly amount they receive is quite enough for going to the teahouse and the necessary purchases in the garrison shop.

The fact that current recruits do receive more money is easy to see from the example of their official salaries. Before the military-financial experiment, the usual shooter and the cadet of the training unit were paid a thousand rubles a month. The service of the army driver, telephone operator, grenade launcher, sniper and machine gunner was then evaluated at 1100 rubles. The mechanic - the driver of the missile and combat vehicle launchers, the intelligence officer and the senior telephonist received 1200 monthly. The commander of the mortar or gun had a hundred rubles more. The official salary of the squad commander in a motorized rifle platoon reached 1400 rubles. Well, the largest sum for the recruit was credited to the senior officers of the unit and the senior inspector of the road patrol service - 1800 rubles per month.

The last two years, the salary of recruits - two thousand. For most it will remain the same.

The last two years, their official salary was two thousand. For most conscripts in 2014-2015, it will remain the same. The presidential decree states that it takes into account the salary for military posts, monthly allowances for class qualifications, special conditions of service and work with information constituting state secrets.

Let's clarify that the named amount is the minimum that the draftee now has every month. Those guys who serve in our military bases outside of Russia, get much more. Their official salary is the same as that of contract soldiers. And these recruits every month charge additional payments.

The official salary in the document is not mentioned randomly. The fact is that the fighters conscripts who are part of the junior commanding staff and have subordinate people now also receive a monthly additional payment. Its size, we quote the presidential decree: "... to 80 percent of the salary for a military post for the first tariff category," the usual recruit.

Branch commanders, deputy platoon commanders, unit foremen and other "urgent" bosses at our foreign military bases, in zones of armed conflict and counter-terrorist operations will receive the same 80 percent overhead. But already from the salary for the primary position of a military contract.
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  1. St Petrov
    St Petrov 18 March 2014 10: 19
    +27
    the treasury is full. Gold and foreign exchange reserves are breaking records. Foreign trade surplus of about $ 120 billion why not =]

    By the way, information for consideration. in 2013 Russian Railways purchased 804 locomotives

    The 10th combine "Vector" rolled off the assembly line this month



    and so on =]
  2. vorobey
    vorobey 18 March 2014 10: 21
    +6
    few. It is necessary to stimulate the ruble additionally. then the level of class and discipline and physics will be stimulated.
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 18 March 2014 10: 43
      +25
      Give it possible to serve the boys from the Donbass and Kharkov, just for the passport of the Russian Federation. They will even pay extra)))) Only you need to make a good answer about it in the media. good
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 18 March 2014 10: 50
        +12
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        Give it possible to serve the boys from the Donbass and Kharkov, just for the passport of the Russian Federation. They will even pay extra)))) Only you need to make a good answer about it in the media. good


        With mother-in-law only talked yesterday on this subject. Says the south-east winged by the Crimea rises. So soon everything will be and not for a passport, but for the homeland they will serve. hang on guys. drinks
      2. zzz
        zzz 18 March 2014 11: 14
        +6
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        Give it possible to serve the boys from the Donbass and Kharkov, just for the passport of the Russian Federation. They will even pay extra)))) Only you need to make a good answer about it in the media. good


        Nevsky! And you write an article about this, you seem to have already written here, then it will reach the addressee faster!
      3. velikoros-xnumx
        velikoros-xnumx 18 March 2014 12: 09
        +1
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        Give it possible to serve the guys from the Donbass and Kharkov, just for the passport of the Russian Federation

        Hello Vyacheslav. Under the current situation, this has already lost its relevance, most likely the distribution of Russian passports to Russian speakers will begin on the simplified basis, and the service ... and the service is already received upon condition of being in military age.
    2. aksai61
      aksai61 18 March 2014 11: 01
      +5
      Well, maybe a little request But I, as a technician of an anti-aircraft missile battalion (military sergeant), received 650 rubles. (2010-2011, urgent service) And first as a driver - 450 rubles. And there was no place to spend them too much ... Since they were practically not allowed to leave, and constant combat training and combat duty did not particularly allow spending "people's money" wink ... Well, sometimes ... Contractors or officers traveled to the city for cookies, coffee, cigarettes and more ... soldier
      But the money allowance must be raised ... What if they let go on dismissal? wink wink
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion 18 March 2014 12: 18
        +1
        In the war for the downed single-engine aircraft they paid a piece, the EMNIP was the same for the tank. Twin engine - 2 pieces. The soldiers, too, in theory had nowhere to spend, but after all, almost everyone had someone left at home, didn’t they send them home?
        1. albert
          albert 18 March 2014 17: 34
          0
          Quote: EvilLion
          In the war for the downed single-engine aircraft they paid a piece, the EMNIP was the same for the tank. Twin engine - 2 pieces

          Even those people who worked on building defensive lines in 41, near Moscow, Luga and other cities, were paid money, although all this was done on a voluntary basis.
  3. Vtel
    Vtel 18 March 2014 10: 21
    +4
    Something is better than nothing.
    "The soldier has a rich soul, but his pocket is empty."
  4. hz123
    hz123 18 March 2014 10: 21
    +2
    called, received 45. through one and a half as much as 380-real loot
    1. rauffg
      rauffg 18 March 2014 10: 54
      +2
      come on. I had at the beginning 30, under a demobilization as much as 36 rubles.
      1. hz123
        hz123 18 March 2014 11: 05
        0
        the position rules, although considering what kind of ... brain ...
      2. lelikas
        lelikas 18 March 2014 11: 38
        0
        Quote: rauffg
        come on. I had at the beginning 30, under a demobilization as much as 36 rubles.

        Approximately the same + the whole salary was twisted for a month in the bank - upon dismissal they said - "Dumpers" are needed - wait a month ...
        1. rauffg
          rauffg 18 March 2014 14: 03
          0
          Quote: lelikas
          Quote: rauffg
          come on. I had at the beginning 30, under a demobilization as much as 36 rubles.

          Approximately the same + the whole salary was twisted for a month in the bank - upon dismissal they said - "Dumpers" are needed - wait a month ...

          they gave us in our arms, well, we threw off a messenger to the stall for a beer. and there’s nothing more.
  5. Coffee_time
    Coffee_time 18 March 2014 10: 23
    +10
    Stimulate on time, because we have mostly strong guys in the villages, and there is not so much money there. Someone must defend their homeland. But when I served, I didn’t see money at all, and the army was in decline, but now I’m proud. The right policy, as long as you don’t invest in people, you won’t get anything back. Law of life
  6. shatu
    shatu 18 March 2014 10: 23
    +9
    The rich, however! :)
    In 2000, they paid us, like, 96 rubles a month, in short about a hundred. Then it was enough for soap-rylny and a packet of cookies)

    But, in general, the initiative is not bad. Even more cadet and Suvorov schools would open for children from dysfunctional families and simply abandoned children, well, something feminine like that. It’s only necessary to give, in addition to military training, some simple civilian profession, such as those that were before .. uh .. (?), Honestly, I forgot even what it was called, in general, it was possible to get a driver’s license right after graduation, and the girls studied cooks.
    1. RBLip
      RBLip 18 March 2014 12: 48
      +1
      Quote: shatu
      In 2000, they paid us, like, 96 rubles a month,

      96-98. 80 pe per month. then plus 6 re for the post. wink
    2. Ascetic
      Ascetic 18 March 2014 13: 22
      +2
      Quote: shatu
      Even more cadet and Suvorov schools would open for children from dysfunctional families and simply abandoned children, well, something feminine like that.


      Exist "Boarding house for pupils of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation" in Moscow.

      The boarding school’s pupils are children of military personnel serving in remote military garrisons, from single-parent and large families, daughters of dead military personnel and combatants who were awarded state awards for military duty.

      Pupils study from grades 5 to 11; the maximum number of 840 students is assumed. In 2008, the first enrollment in grades 7, 8 and 9 was carried out in the amount of 180 people, in 2009 - the second enrollment in grades 5, 6 and 7 in the amount of 140 pupils. Taking into account the recruitment of 2013, more than 740 pupils study at the Boardinghouse today.

      The first graduation took place in 2011 - 11 pupils completed the 55th grade. In 2012, 52 pupils graduated from the Boarding School, in 2013 - 49 pupils. All graduates entered higher educational institutions.

      The educational process is built using advanced Russian and world experience. The curriculum includes, in addition to compulsory school curriculum subjects, a wide block of additional education: four foreign languages, dance classes, sports, art and music education. Mastering the skills of playing a musical instrument, vocal art, orchestra playing, the art of painting, the basics of graphic design, easel composition, sculptural plastic, the basics of batik - this is an incomplete list of subjects that pupils will have to master.

      link to the guesthouse website
      1. shatu
        shatu 18 March 2014 14: 56
        +2
        Quote: Ascetic
        There is a "Boarding House for the Pupils of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation" in Moscow.

        I read on the internet - drop dead cool! Directly Institute of Noble Maidens)
        But that's why such projects are not PR ?! There are only 4 (!) News in Google, and 2 of them are about frauds by Serdyukov.
        1 boarding house in our huge country is not even funny. Despite the fact that the number of abandoned children is only growing, the number of orphanages has decreased by one third over the past 5 years (http://ria.ru/society/20140116/989516054.html). Where are these kids?

        And it's not even PR as such, we just need to feel like PEOPLE, and not jackals, in whom we have been aggressively turned over the last 20 years.

        Or is this the situation because they have fallen too much in power now?
        One of the comments to the video:
        Everything is very cool. Handsomely. Conveniently. Just to take a teenager to the Moscow Suvorov School you need a bribe of $ 25.000. Why? Yes, because it is a prestigious CLOSED institution for such boys as Patrushev or Fradkov. No lower than the level. So that in this almshouse girls take either a call or an envelope. And so everything is great, beautiful, comfortable ...


        In my opinion, this tradition should be revived. I remember when I read "Juncker" by Kuprin - I was really fascinated by this life, it was better than any comics! :)

        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 18 March 2014 16: 41
          +1
          Quote: shatu
          1 boarding house in our huge country is not even funny. Despite the fact that the number of abandoned children is only growing, but the number of orphanages has decreased by a third over the past 5 years


          And this is a question for our oligarchs, if earlier in pre-revolutionary Russia such institutions were not only supported by their money (recall Tretyakov, Morozov, Stroganov, Mamontov, Bakhrushin, Prokhorov, Schukin, Naydenov, Botkin and many others .. In Russia there were numerous dynasties of merchants and industrialists who donated funds for charity and charity.The names of philanthropists from the dynasty of entrepreneurs of the Strogovs, the trade dynasty of Bosovs and the dynasty of entrepreneurial breeders Demidovs were known throughout the country.
          It really was a NATIONAL ELITE and a NATIONAL-ORIENTED CAPITAL, although many of them also led a wild lifestyle and drowned in luxury, but they still have kept their memory of their deeds for the good of the country and people.
          And now in the country, the liberal-kagal oligarchy is focused exclusively on London, Washington and Tel Aviv.
          It is no coincidence that the government represented by Putin is making efforts to nationalize the elites and preserve capital in Russia, while the process is too cautious.
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  7. Coffee_time
    Coffee_time 18 March 2014 10: 26
    +2
    DOSAAF was called when they received rights after school, in our city this organization is still functioning
    Quote: shatu
    type, former before .. uh .. (?), honestly forgot
    1. shatu
      shatu 18 March 2014 10: 46
      +2
      No, not DOSAAF.
      There was the word "production ...", of three letters (not those :)), something like the UPS, oh, exactly, the UPK is an educational and production complex (a combine?).
      The collective mind is power! )
    2. shatu
      shatu 18 March 2014 11: 32
      0
      Yes, I found it - a training and production plant
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Учебно-производственный_комбинат

      It is necessary to take an example from Belarus, it turns out that they still have it, but with us, if desired. And many of our teenagers will want to go there at will when such fucking guys like Sobchak are leading our youth ?! How I want this bitch and company from some penthouse of a skyscraper to fall out of narcotic intoxication (Lord, honestly, I’m also ready to die if you hear me!)

      And, yes, I just remembered that they didn’t give rights right away, it was necessary after school in DORA (in my time they were called so, the Soviet army and navy was no longer there) to retrain.
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion 18 March 2014 12: 20
        0
        In the 99th in Tatarstan, this was not at will, although there was no particular sense.
  8. Andrei K
    Andrei K 18 March 2014 10: 29
    0
    That's right, now it is very necessary to support the military, in our turbulent time.
  9. Ivan Russky
    Ivan Russky 18 March 2014 10: 29
    0
    In 98g, I received 37 thousand rubles for two years of service in the VCO; this turns out to be 1540 rubles per month. True, I do not know how much they received then in other troops. They say a lot less
    1. Bepdukt
      Bepdukt 18 March 2014 10: 36
      +1
      In 96g. received 21p. as a ml sergeant, private 18p.
    2. tchack
      tchack 18 March 2014 11: 30
      +4
      In 2002-2005, he served as a contract sergeant in Chechnya, when I was leaving I had 420000 rubles + a monthly pension of 2000 rubles for the rest of my life + free travel on public transport.

      When you really defend your homeland, your homeland will not be in debt !!!!
  10. kocclissi
    kocclissi 18 March 2014 10: 30
    0
    Experience gave a positive result, well, if only the next one was also positive!
  11. Quantum
    Quantum 18 March 2014 10: 33
    +1
    Therefore, the Ukrainian Armed Forces urgently need to go over to the side of Russia.
    The Ukrainian army is demoralized, there is no money for salary. Ahead, the Holodomor!
    1. Vadim12
      Vadim12 18 March 2014 11: 44
      0
      They are tormented by the issue of the oath. Just so unlikely to cross. It is necessary to come up with something clever, so as not to be considered a violation.
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion 18 March 2014 12: 21
        0
        Order of Yanukovych, what else.
  12. Free Cossack
    Free Cossack 18 March 2014 10: 37
    +5
    I served in the SA, it was back in the 80s of the last century. Since I was a squad leader, I received (if my memory serves me) 9 rubles, and a private, respectively, 7 rubles. In principle, with this money in my time, I could buy toiletries and get a good crack in the "chip". For modern soldiers, I think these funds will also be enough for these pleasures. He is a soldier and a soldier to be content with little. Moreover, they now serve for 1 year, and in a year you won't really miss your mother's grubs.
    1. UVB
      UVB 18 March 2014 11: 03
      +4
      1977-1980. Private - 3 rubles. 80 kopecks The squad leader is 10.80.
    2. Arbatov
      Arbatov 18 March 2014 11: 05
      0
      The shooter in the mid-80s received 7 rubles, the senior shooter - 8, the calculation commander - 10. The Komsomol contributions were immediately deducted. This is probably why the chervonets was never given with one piece of paper.
    3. tolancop
      tolancop 18 March 2014 11: 23
      0
      Does not change. These are the norms that were. In addition, there were surcharges for class.
      ? ordinary began to receive rubles since 1983, before that - 3-80 ...
  13. SFIR
    SFIR 18 March 2014 10: 42
    0
    In 91 ... I got 358 rubles in Armenia ....
  14. fly fishing
    fly fishing 18 March 2014 10: 42
    0
    Quote: Quantum
    Ahead of the famine!

    as usual blame Russia recourse
  15. ando_bor
    ando_bor 18 March 2014 10: 55
    +4
    In the Caucasus and abroad, conscripts receive a "bare" salary for contract servicemen (from contract servicemen at the expense of additional payments many times more), depending on the position that conscripts can actually hold, this is 10000-18000 rubles. + two salaries for demobilization.
    My son served in the KCR, he quit in the summer, demobil, estimated - for the last full and incomplete month of service he received almost simultaneously, + little remained from the previous months, practically without accumulating and not saving, he managed 70+, at sea and to Europe went, he has 12 sput. the salary was. There were no additional payments than conscripts and differed from contractors. Some of his colleagues bought a car. And 2 thousand is not enough, money is needed in the army, communications, a chip, soap and dusting supplies, for the needs of companies, various pleasant and necessary utilities for convenience and show-offs: a tourist gas burner, an emergency raincoat, hob, etc., mandatory for reconnaissance a non-standard knife - practically a dagger, I bought a watch with arrows for my own, 5-6 sput. per month leaves.
  16. MasterTactician
    MasterTactician 18 March 2014 10: 59
    -11%
    It doesn’t matter how much they formally pay soldiers if 70%, or even 90-100%, are selected by sergeants, respectively, 50% of whom are selected by officers.
    1. aksai61
      aksai61 18 March 2014 11: 14
      +1
      This is what you need to be a bitch !!! am So that the company commander or the battery commander would take money from the soldiers ... In our unit, this did not even occur to me ... And the sergeants and "grandfathers" for such feints in their heads received quite a weighty argument, tired in the teeth and pouring through other limbs! !!
      Although there are such cases in the army (requisition among fighters) and it’s sad ... But it’s not everywhere how to see YOU!
      1. tolancop
        tolancop 18 March 2014 11: 26
        +3
        Where I served, the old men took the pay from the young. It was. But to an officer? It was impossible to imagine such a thing.
      2. ando_bor
        ando_bor 18 March 2014 11: 38
        +1
        I asked my son, he quit in the summer of 2013, he received decent money in the Caucasus.
        Says: - there was a case in the infantry, two sergeants, the same conscripts tried to squeeze money from a weak soldier, then for a week on command: "who wants to go to jail" they went out of order, well, they didn't seem to be imprisoned, but there were no problems at all, but such cases and is the basis for the "opinion of experts".
        I served as the DMB 85, ​​we didn’t compare with hazing with the current one, but no one attempted to kill soldiers, although I have reliable evidence that this happened in some places.
    2. IGS
      IGS 18 March 2014 11: 40
      +2
      Do you practice it yourself? Or who took? Then the part, title, surname of the one who did this and his own too. But in a rat we won’t allow shadow casting at all. If only blab, then shut up your tongue.
    3. wot
      wot 18 March 2014 11: 51
      +2
      did you even understand what you wrote, the officer will risk his future for the sake of soldier’s cents
  17. Noctis
    Noctis 18 March 2014 11: 05
    +1
    US lifts embargo on Iranian oil

    Iran will be able to resume oil supplies to the markets of Japan and the European Union. On the eve of the United States revised the ban on Iranian oil for Japan, Belgium, the UK, Germany, Greece, Spain, Italy, the Netherlands, Poland, France and the Czech Republic, which were previously supposed to support US economic sanctions against the Republic, RBC reports citing the Associated Press.

    In this regard, US Secretary of State John Kerry pointed out that despite the lifting of the embargo, the United States does not intend to abandon economic sanctions. Pressure on Tehran will continue due to concerns about its nuclear program, Kerry said.

    Iran’s oil industry is costing economic sanctions, for the first time in 14 years, the country has faced a trade deficit.
    However, Tehran, for its part, announced the imposition of an embargo on oil and gas supplies to all 27 EU member states, explaining its decision by the hostile policies of these states towards Iran.


    hah and the Iranians supported us. FIG and not EU Iranian oil
    1. tolancop
      tolancop 18 March 2014 11: 28
      0
      And we them ... A couple of months ago there was information that Russia would buy Iranian oil ...
  18. Capacitor
    Capacitor 18 March 2014 11: 19
    0
    It is necessary to extend it correctly, I served just when the transition from 450 to 2000 was, the premium helped out a lot
  19. forester
    forester 18 March 2014 11: 21
    +1
    all this is certainly good but still a year of service is not enough although on the other hand everyone has the opportunity to remain on the contract
  20. mvv
    mvv 18 March 2014 11: 34
    -2
    made a kindergarten out of the army. for that kind of money, for phones, for a free sim card with money in the account, they should not get out of the tent tents for six months and lick equipment.
  21. bender8282
    bender8282 18 March 2014 12: 01
    0
    not 400 rubles, but not worthy of money ..
  22. ando_bor
    ando_bor 18 March 2014 12: 16
    +1
    By the way, in Crimea, Russian conscripts receive 12-18 sput as Ukrainian contract soldiers. and contract soldiers are 4-5 times larger. I think this is one of the reasons for the "pliability" of the Ukrainian military, most of them dream of serving in the Russian army.
  23. Native grandfather
    Native grandfather 18 March 2014 12: 44
    0
    I served in a foreign country. I received 10 rubles in terms of foreign currency at the rate of 1rub = 1dol.
  24. MasterTactician
    MasterTactician 18 March 2014 13: 09
    0
    Quote: tolancop
    Where I served, the old men took the pay from the young. It was. But to an officer? It was impossible to imagine such a thing.


    The officer will not be taken from the rank and file, but from the sergeants, who will first be taken from the rank and file.
  25. MasterTactician
    MasterTactician 18 March 2014 13: 18
    +2
    Quote: IGS
    Do you practice it yourself? Or who took? Then the part, title, surname of the one who did this and his own too. But in a rat we won’t allow shadow casting at all. If only blab, then shut up your tongue.


    He served 08-09, when he was already 1 year old.
    He was in 3 parts and everywhere the sergeants shook the personnel.
    In one, they almost extorted almost openly, part of them were in the ass, there was no supervision or communication.
    You work for yourself, the sergeant comes up and gives the phone and says "do you want to call home?"
    You call, and he gives you a piece of paper where it says "1000 rubles" and the recipient's coordinates.
    I did not check what would happen if I missed this, but even a hedgehog understood that there was nothing good.

    Although 5 years have passed, I don’t think that something has changed much.

    The officers everywhere knew perfectly well who beat whom, who took from whom, but did nothing because they didn’t need to fuck it.
    Met only if something serious and can not be hidden.
  26. Andrey67
    Andrey67 18 March 2014 13: 48
    0
    SA.Srochnaya. 86-88g. 7 rubles. Enough. No one even thought to take away / pick up ...
  27. machete
    machete 18 March 2014 16: 05
    +2
    I am watching in parallel the signing of the annexation of Crimea and Sevastopol. Already a tear broke! A soldier needs a denyuzhka. Non-smoking lemonade. Yes to every little thing (the same batteries).
  28. kelevra
    kelevra 18 March 2014 16: 55
    0
    Good idea. Serving the army is not just a duty, it seems to me that there is also a share of labor in this duty. So, paying for urgent service is not an unnecessary and useful thing.
  29. Red Army of the USSR
    Red Army of the USSR 19 March 2014 01: 40
    0
    The country's defense should be increased, otherwise we will be crushed, I myself am not a military man only urgent, but I love the army, so first emphasis on the army. Glory to the (Soviet) Russian army.