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Change four "Mercedes" for one tank

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The first step has been taken - our Crimea! It remains to keep the situation, which continues to heat up. Kiev temporary workers must desperately need to shake up the situation, bring the matter to a real battle, so that more blood is shed. They are no longer interested in, by and large, the victory, they understand that the east of Ukraine and the whole of New Russia do not want to stay with the bankrupt "revolutionaries" of the Maidan. And even in Western Ukraine more and more they understand: something went wrong with the “winners”. Blitzkrieg failed ...

Therefore, instead of a normal dialogue with the East and Novorossia, the neo-fasophists mobilize convulsively and send everything they can shoot to the East of Ukraine. With the prospect of opening the Eastern Front-2 against its own people and Russia. History and the finale of the German Eastern Front teaches them nothing, their owners need revenge.

Therefore, before much blood has been shed, why not use the technology of our geopolitical opponents during the Gulf War during the occupation of Iraq?

Then the coalition forces conducted an operation, which they cynically called the "Golden Ass", following the Eastern saying: "There are no such fortresses, the gates of which would not have opened to the donkey loaded with gold." Almost all of Iraq’s generals were bribed by the Americans, the Iraqi army was actually beheaded, troop control was paralyzed even at the grassroots level, the morale of the troops fell, and there was no serious resistance. But it was a war between nations that never lived together. These are even different races, where everything is different - language, religion, mentality and even appearance. This explains the cynicism of Americans towards an absolutely alien adversary.

You can talk for a long time about the cynicism of bribing the enemy and dirty methods of warfare, unworthy of high morality and the Russian spirit, but let's see. In our case, the conflict is fomented by the stealing oligarchs of Ukraine between one people with centuries of experience living together. Russia today is trying to restore a large united state, in this is its Strength and Truth (otherwise the Slavs simply cannot survive the realities of the 21st century). Therefore, our conflict is a completely different case, and here we can talk only about the compensation of the opposing party for the failure to destroy and the preservation of lives. You can call it a premium for saving the world.

Therefore, I propose to perform the project "Guest", namely:

1. The Russian authorities are widely notify the Ukrainian troops that Russia insists on a political solution to the contradictions, and in order to prevent bloodshed, it proposes to move with military equipment to the collection points on the border.

2. Military equipment will be interned until the conflict is finally resolved. Everything Tanks, Infantry fighting vehicles, self-propelled guns, self-propelled guns, MLRS, aircraft and ships, small arms, of course, should not be intentionally rendered inoperative by crews.

3. All military personnel will be presented with a special status “guest of the Russian Federation” (the name is conditional, can be adjusted) for a period of up to one year, or Russian citizenship at the choice of a military person, and they will be under the protection of the Russian Federation for the duration of their stay on Russian territory.

4. To each guest of the Russian Federation here, at the point of delivery of military equipment, to provide forever for personal use: a car, a pre-announced premium, an identity card and a ticket to the resorts of Crimea, Sochi and the Caucasian Mineral Waters.

Of course, this list can be supplemented and adjusted, but the essence of the project is to withdraw the rest of the Soviet military potential from combat contact with our units.

It is necessary to explain to the deceived that they are sent to conquer new property for their former oligarchs. And they personally will not receive anything, except for the fights, wounds and death. The remnants of our common Soviet heritage (cities, communications, enterprises) will be destroyed, and, most importantly, the civilian population that they were called upon to protect will die.

Fans can argue that this is a very expensive project (they say, we eat up the last horseradish without salt), I can remind you that all wars once ended. And then it is necessary to restore the destroyed world, but even in this case the dead cannot be returned. Therefore, this project is strategically cheaper than all the other options. This will be Russia's investment in a common future, and the project is FAVORABLE to everyone except the arsonists from Maidan and their owners.

To fulfill military duty for the army of Ukraine today - to pass weapon. This will cool the hot heads of Maidan, who are ready to burn their own hut, just to annoy their neighbor. And let the questions of war and peace be decided by politicians at the negotiating table.

Because all wars always end at the negotiating table. This is an axiom.

Then why do you shoot?
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  1. Stiletto
    Stiletto 18 March 2014 10: 46
    +53
    Among the "Guests" there may be many who will give a lot of headaches to the "Hosts". Westerners, nationalists, foschists, finally. So this is perhaps not the best option - bribery. Strength, as you know, is not in money. Truth is power, brother. And the truth is ours.
    1. Standard Oil
      Standard Oil 18 March 2014 10: 50
      +44
      This is where the Strength is:
      1. TAMERLAN 7
        TAMERLAN 7 18 March 2014 11: 23
        +42
        I know them better and I can say that the only thing that will stop them is strength. You should have seen how they sour right away, how Russia demonstrates strength! And how they become impudent and swollen with vanity when they hear a "peaceful solution", "negotiations", and other manifestations of weakness! Moreover, they look for such manifestations even where they do not exist and wishful thinking!
        Their Achilles' heel is the support of the West! It is the United States and Europe, with their support of an illegitimate, fascist regime, who are to blame for the complications in Ukraine. Indeed, it is thanks to their consent that the Russian-speaking population is discriminated against! Now for the GDP (which has solved problem No. 1), this is problem No. 2! The West must be forced legally to non-recognition of the right fascist sector. It is necessary to separate the right sector from the authorities in Ukraine and disarm them.
        1. bulvas
          bulvas 18 March 2014 11: 37
          +10
          Quote: TAMERLAN 7
          what stops them is power.


          Strength will also be, but this is for scumbags (there are specialists for spot operations)
          And for those who are being persecuted to fight, for boys who are not shot, why is force? Better convince commanders to lay down their arms
          1. Canep
            Canep 18 March 2014 11: 46
            +15
            Quote: bulvas
            for unshooted boys why strength?

            I think the commanders understand this, because they (the commanders) themselves are not fired. Nobody wants to die ingloriously. The airmobile brigade will be torn to pieces by the Russian infantry battalion of contract soldiers, with the support of the tank company, the Mi-24 link, and the artillery division, even if they burrow over the eyebrow.
          2. elmi
            elmi 18 March 2014 11: 56
            +5
            It is possible to buy an opponent, but not everyone will go for it, nevertheless honor and oath are above all for many. It can be done differently - it is necessary to "make the Crimean people rich" - raise salaries, pensions, benefits, etc. even higher than in Russia, to make Crimea a tax haven. As a result, the living standards of Crimeans will rise a lot and this will be the best advertisement for joining Russia. After that, even the western regions of Ukraine will be asked to join, and the Euromaidans themselves will be swept away.
            1. Evgen_Vasilich
              Evgen_Vasilich 18 March 2014 12: 06
              +4
              there should not be privileged regions in Russia! this is the most important principle, I think! and you can show how the Crimea will heal only after some time, when they are integrated into the country to the end! because and minus! populism is bad!
              1. elmi
                elmi 18 March 2014 12: 25
                +2
                Quote: Evgen_Vasilich
                there should not be privileged regions in Russia! this is the most important principle, I think! and you can show how the Crimea will heal only after some time, when they are integrated into the country to the end! because and minus! populism is bad!

                Do you think there are no privileged regions in Russia now? there are many regions of Russia where the level of salaries is several times higher, and how much money we are pumping into Chechnya, the Caucasus! so there is no need to breed demagoguery here. Russia must show how it can help, what would be an incentive for other doubters. It is much better to lure with "carrot" than by force, force is the last argument when other methods are exhausted. Or do you think it is better to conquer by force? So catch my minus in response.
              2. Evgen_Vasilich
                Evgen_Vasilich 18 March 2014 12: 29
                0
                and still 1- and 2+ bully
                1. elmi
                  elmi 18 March 2014 12: 35
                  +2
                  It’s not yet evening ... are you sure that you will no longer have cons on other comments? bully
          3. avg
            avg 18 March 2014 12: 11
            0
            Change four "Mercedes" for one tank

            A line of thugs from all over the CIS and the surrounding area is lined up. Hey Urouss, yasak, come on !!!
            Just talk from a position of strength, and then in a couple of months ukro-warriors will change tanks for grub.
          4. TAMERLAN 7
            TAMERLAN 7 18 March 2014 12: 55
            +6
            Strength is not only an army! Surprise, but I will say that now for Russia and GDP to send troops to Ukraine is the worst option! Yes, this is so, and it will be so until we win the information war and the diplomatic one, moreover, with the true masters of Ukraine (the USA and Europe). Strength is not only weapons and their use (this is the last and most dangerous and undesirable argument). The economy, the information war, agreements and support of the allies, jurisprudence and other quite legitimate levers of pressure, when you are ready to use military force, themselves become force! Russia should be ready and not afraid to admit that it is ready for a force (military) decision. But it is in such a situation that it is necessary to unleash a war of information, economic and legal. What will happen if Russia and China throw out a lot of worthless pieces of paper called the dollar on the market? Really, they have not been provided with anything for a long time! Markets will start to fever! Not Europe should threaten Russia with a rejection of gas, but Russia with Europe. What will happen to Europe if they block access to Russian oil products? Legally, there is every reason to start a hunt for the fascists of Ukraine. Etc......
            So not a single army! But the world must know that we are ready for it! Now the main enemy is not Ukraine, but the USA and Europe.
        2. sams
          sams 18 March 2014 11: 58
          +5
          Today I learned interesting information from a friend.
          His brother works in a large warehouse complex in the suburbs of Moscow. This man claims that just yesterday, from a conversation with representatives of the Central Asian republics working there, he became aware of attempts to recruit the latter by Ukrainian citizens. The purpose of the recruitment is described streamlined: armed resistance to Russian aggressors. The proposed salary is 150 thousand rubles a month.
          1. dik-fort
            dik-fort 18 March 2014 12: 12
            +9
            You must be sure to report these facts to the FSB, to be ashamed in such a case is inappropriate and even criminal, it is about our safety. Unless, of course, this is not misinformation, but knowing the methods of the "work" of the CIA and the UPA Bandera, everything can be.
        3. masterovoy
          masterovoy 18 March 2014 12: 12
          +1
          Very accurately said Tamerlan 7!
        4. oblako
          oblako 18 March 2014 12: 14
          +1
          Absolutely, Tamerlan, it’s only a pity those who managed to fog their brains. Therefore, they must be extinguished selectively and exponentially. No options. Barack will call when enough ...)))
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        6. nnz226
          nnz226 18 March 2014 12: 47
          +1
          They already tried to negotiate with the Nazis from 1933 to 1939. Everyone knows what happened. There can be only one thing with them (a quote from the goblin translation of "The Lord of the Rings"): "Only mass shootings (of the fascists) will save the Motherland (well, or Ukraine)!" Open to a vile cry: "Glory to Ukraine!" the mouth should immediately be shut up with a bullet in this very open mouth!
      2. Canep
        Canep 18 March 2014 11: 40
        +4
        With the prospect of opening the Eastern Front-2 against its people

        I read somewhere on the forums that those parts that reached the border with Russia are dug in there so that the border is behind them. I don’t know the truth or not. but they want to use them against refugees who trample from the southeast to Russia when the Maidan Guard enters the cities for Ukrainization. Once again, it flashed only once, I can not vouch for reliability.
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    3. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 18 March 2014 11: 02
      +13
      Quote: Stiletto
      Among the "Guests" there may be many who will give a lot of headaches to the "Hosts". Westerners, nationalists, foschists, finally. So this is perhaps not the best option - bribery. Strength, as you know, is not in money. Truth is power, brother. And the truth is ours.


      Siberia is full of cozy places for everyone.

      Strength brother, really in truth. Put all these zapadentsev and pravosek under total brainwashing and then send back to ruin.
      1. wot
        wot 18 March 2014 11: 12
        +34
        and what Siberia did to you bad how so Siberia let shovel its shit in itself
        1. a52333
          a52333 18 March 2014 11: 24
          +3
          Yes, let the snow be removed. All. Advice from Cagliostro.
          1. muginov2015
            muginov2015 18 March 2014 11: 48
            +5
            In Siberia, they can’t be, at least 20 years later they will conquer raw winter.
        2. woron333444
          woron333444 18 March 2014 11: 44
          +1
          let them brainwash them in Moscow, in Siberia there are plenty of zones
      2. mashine
        mashine 18 March 2014 11: 22
        +9
        In the week I had contact with 2 immigrants from the west of the Outskirts. They say the locals have nothing against the Russians. They say these Bendera muddy the water. To be honest, the opinion appeared that there are ours too. And Bendery is only a small part that has nothing to do with the rest of the Outskirts. Parasites in general
        1. ing
          ing 18 March 2014 11: 30
          +16
          Do not believe them brother, they are shifters as soon as they have the power to tear to pieces. I lived there for 15 years and I know these people from the inside, even during the Soviet propaganda, they hated Russians, namely Russians and not Soviet ones.
          1. TAMERLAN 7
            TAMERLAN 7 18 March 2014 13: 46
            +2
            Quote: mashine
            To be honest, the opinion appeared that there are ours too. And Bendery is only a small part that has nothing to do with the rest of the Outskirts

            Quote: ing
            I lived there for 15 years and I know these people from the inside, even during the Soviet propaganda, they hated Russians, namely Russians and not Soviet ones.

            You are both right (that sounds weird). You need to understand that people are different and they can only be conditionally divided into groups. In western Ukraine, there are people who hate just Russians, there are people who do not like them, there are people who are neutral, there are people who are sympathetic to Russians, there are people who consider them brothers, there are people who speak for Russians, and finally there are Russians (sometimes Russians in spirit, not roots).
            The boundaries of these groups may change depending on the situation and information. Now, for example, many have an anti-Russian mood. The explanations are usually idiotic, like this: "why are they (Russians) attacking us, they lived in peace, but they are taking us over" (further in the same spirit). All channels are pro-Western and Russia is losing the information war in Ukrainian heads. If there were no Crimea, the Maidanites have discredited themselves like this in half a year. that they would be spat on like in Yushchenko, but now, Russia, GDP and Russians are to blame for all the troubles. They would be completely different if the information situation were different.
            We must learn to fight the West with his own weapons. GDP - well done, and showed that he knows how!
        2. ing
          ing 18 March 2014 11: 30
          +3
          Do not believe them brother, they are shifters as soon as they have the power to tear to pieces. I lived there for 15 years and I know these people from the inside, even during the Soviet propaganda, they hated Russians, namely Russians and not Soviet ones.
        3. I read the news
          I read the news 18 March 2014 11: 33
          +12
          These "ours", already Soviet in the 60s, continued to shoot in the backs of doctors and teachers. How many military commissars were killed. Since then, there is not a single office of the military commissar on the first floor - they regularly shot through the window. The KGB for Bandera stopped working already during perestroika.
        4. Anper
          Anper 18 March 2014 12: 00
          +3
          Quote: mashine
          To be honest, the opinion appeared that there are ours too.

          To a very small degree. Most will not fight, resist, too, but with a soul with the Maidan .. Moreover, they consider it not themselves, but the Russians, who are deceived.
      3. irk_tma
        irk_tma 18 March 2014 11: 33
        +14
        we don’t need them in Siberia, kind and honest people live here
        and we don’t need to dilute the gene pool with such!
      4. Alexanderrr
        Alexanderrr 18 March 2014 11: 35
        +3
        Siberia is full of cozy places for everyone.

        There is plenty of room in Siberia for Russians, not for k "wicked! It's time to understand!"
      5. Evgen_Vasilich
        Evgen_Vasilich 18 March 2014 12: 08
        +1
        HALF is a great term! furiously plus !!!!
    4. Siberian19
      Siberian19 18 March 2014 11: 28
      +3
      Well, what a carrot and stick! always acted! especially for the hesitant! there should be many who want to! Let's see what GDP will produce today! hi
    5. Owl
      Owl 18 March 2014 11: 47
      +3
      Now it is necessary to deal with mercenaries from PMCs who are actively operating in the south-east of Ukraine, to "sort out", detain, "liquidate" by the forces of the "People's Militia". Crimea, with the difference in living standards between Ukraine and the former "autonomy", will show ordinary Ukrainians who is right and what the people of Ukraine should strive for.
    6. Capyar 48315
      Capyar 48315 18 March 2014 11: 56
      +2
      I agree - therefore, paragraph 4 should be deleted. And the rest is quite a sound idea.
    7. Horst78
      Horst78 18 March 2014 12: 25
      0
      Quote: Stiletto
      Among the "Guests" there may be many who will give a lot of headaches to the "Hosts". Westerners, nationalists, foschists, finally.
      So there is the same experience, albeit bitter, with the camps of OUR prisoners of war in which the circumstances of the captivity during the Second World War were clarified. My children went through such a camp and my father was born in the spring of 1948.
    8. ed65b
      ed65b 18 March 2014 12: 31
      +1
      Quote: Stiletto
      Among the "Guests" there may be many who will give a lot of headaches to the "Hosts". Westerners, nationalists, foschists, finally. So this is perhaps not the best option - bribery. Strength, as you know, is not in money. Truth is power, brother. And the truth is ours.

      This is definitely Alexey. Today, while trying to cross the border, a Russian-speaking man was detained with a pistol, a radio, money and documents from the "right sector". as he explained, he lives in Kazakhstan and made his way to his homeland. The man looks pale and starts talking.
    9. Native grandfather
      Native grandfather 18 March 2014 13: 26
      -2
      But Lenin offered the soldiers only an idea, and they put their officers on bayonets. Here. And since when can a bribed person be faithful to the end?
      What the hell? The article is a fat minus. It is better to offer humanitarian aid to the non-belligerent population of Ukraine with this money. This will be much more effective, given the situation in their economy. And start from the East. And there, you look, and the West will catch up.
      1. RONIN-HS
        18 March 2014 23: 01
        0
        You yourself put this fat minus ....
        What is incomprehensible here - this project is written for those who trawl forums for service, as a concept of psychological warfare with a potential adversary. Faster, obviously, the author did not have the opportunity to bring it to those who should have guessed this by the nature of the service.
        And on the topic ... "... this money is better ..." - I can ask you, you can imagine what only one Ukrainian tank company (which could hand over the vehicles to the Russian army) can do by accidentally breaking through to the rear, into a residential area ??? Resurrect in your memory the pictures of Grozny after the battles !!! Impressed or not? And how many "these funds" will be needed later for the restoration of the housing estate ??? Do you happen to live near Ukraine? Have you thought about our people? fool
  2. bulvas
    bulvas 18 March 2014 10: 49
    +12
    Bribing an enemy is always cheaper than fighting, not to mention spilled blood.
    Given the possible economic losses (sanctions, falling energy prices) it is definitely more profitable to buy the Ukrainian military
    1. a52333
      a52333 18 March 2014 11: 13
      +10
      100%. And we must not forget that in case of large losses it will be much more difficult to explain that we are not occupiers.
      What the author offers is a very correct direction, but sewn with white thread. It's easier to send specialists with a stick and a carrot:
      WHIP infa (which should be) compromising on the commanders of the formations, a reminder of the betrayal of the oath, an order from the president, a betrayal of the Ukrainian people, a guarantee of the term after the operation to establish the constitutional order.
      Well, gingerbread, why comment on it.
      IMHO, our specialists are doing this.
      Damn, I’m writing myself, but I think it's worth it? What if it’s not obvious to law enforcement
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 18 March 2014 11: 19
        +7
        In the meantime (with foreign press):

        "McCain noted that tit-for-tat sanctions are unlikely to work. He advocates for more serious measures." He also proposes to immediately arm the Ukrainian army (while the US administration rejected this idea), to promise to help with the long-term development of the Ukrainian army, to reconsider US approach to Putin and resume US missile defense projects in Eastern Europe, "the article says."

        so maybe Bradleys and Javelins will be passing soon.
        1. smith7
          smith7 18 March 2014 14: 06
          +2
          Even after the accident in the plane, McCain caused concern in the sequence of thinking and the adequacy of the perception of the world.
    2. alex-s
      alex-s 18 March 2014 11: 18
      +3
      Bribing the enemy is always cheaper

      That is the problem, that Ukraine is not the enemy!
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 18 March 2014 11: 34
        +8
        Quote: alex-s
        That is the problem, that Ukraine is not the enemy!


        If the enemies themselves then. Bandera ukrovlast continues to anneal not childishly.
        Insanity grows stronger, nerds rejoice!

        In the Donetsk region along the border with the Russian Federation, a trench was dug 4 meters wide, 2 meters deep and with a two-meter shaft.

        Reinforced concrete blocks-tetrapods were placed along it (they are usually used in coastal protection structures).

        This was announced by the chairman of the Donetsk regional state administration Sergey Taruta.

        According to the governor, digging this trench involved his brother.

        “Our border is not locked, but it is secured enough so that the equipment does not pass freely,” he said.

        To the question of what he personally did for the Ukrainian army, Taruta replied that much was being done, but not for public relations. In particular, he said, digging a trench costs more than 50 planes, transfers News of Donbass.

        Taruta dug a trench on the border with Russia
        Ahhhh! I'm just in shock! Mannerheim and Maginot nervously smoke on the sidelines.


        Where Svidomo tanker Kars! Probably rejoices in the invincible power of Ukrainian army and the wisdom of homegrown ukrostrategov!

        And here is the video of the fortifications: Taruta Line will go into engineering and fortification textbooks.

        1. Yuri Sev Caucasus
          Yuri Sev Caucasus 18 March 2014 12: 22
          +4
          even when digging the ditches managed to hide the headstock, the video shows that the width is a maximum of 2.5 meters but not 4 !!! This is how his brother earns =)
        2. Normal
          Normal 18 March 2014 12: 24
          +1
          Quote: Ascetic


          Where Svidomo tanker Kars! Probably rejoices in the invincible power of Ukrainian army and the wisdom of homegrown ukrostrategov!


          Kars is not a tanker, but an artilleryman. Yesterday, he wrote that Maidanites would not go to war. Such a sad one ...
          1. Ascetic
            Ascetic 18 March 2014 12: 53
            +2
            Quote: Normal
            Kars is not a tanker, but an artilleryman. Yesterday, he wrote that Maidanites would not go to war. Such a sad one ...


            But I damn him. I warned a year ago. What they can force ... Nobody, too, is eager to fight with colleagues. Classmates and classmates with whom we served and studied together ... But with the zombie banderlogs we need an anti-terrorist operation rather than war ... Everything is complicated, the situation in the Southeast is becoming stalemate and the troops can’t be entered yet, and there is no one to stop anarchy and lawlessness, tanks cannot solve the problem here, this is an extreme case.
            1. Normal
              Normal 18 March 2014 16: 34
              0
              Quote: Ascetic
              Everything is complicated, the situation in the Southeast is becoming stalemate and while the troops can’t be entered, there’s no one to stop anarchy and lawlessness,


              Yeah, in the southeast it's the seams. Sadly, in my opinion it remains part of the outskirts. Unless the Maidanites themselves provoke clashes and a lot of blood. Then you really have to send troops, and quite possibly not only ours.
              1. woron333444
                woron333444 18 March 2014 18: 11
                +1
                from the UN the Chinese would have taken
      2. Anper
        Anper 18 March 2014 12: 24
        0
        Quote: alex-s
        That is the problem, that Ukraine is not the enemy!

        This is who they think. Here is a repost from the Ukrainian version of the Right Sector of VK. And there is still Russian, it has recently appeared, for those who do not understand the Ukrainian language, read - for Russia, it is very white and fluffy. Something that I give with the translation.

        RIGHT SECTOR
        To the members of the enormous Ob'dnannya “Right Sector”

        The politerada of the “Right Sector” is informational, who is a member of our rukh - be an organization and be a person, who can’t be ignored in their lives by the principles that are silent so long as it’s not randomly Ukrainian. "Right Sector."PS Political Council informs all members of our movement - any organization and any person who is not guided in their actions by those who are not ethnic Ukrainian by our principles will be immediately excluded from PS.

        Nagaduєmo tsi principle.Recall these principles.

        Our shutter is quiet, but not an ethnic Ukrainian:our attitude towards those who are not ethnic Ukrainians

        - fraternize - until quietly, hto fight with us at once for the Ukrainian national power; fraternal - for those who, together with us, are fighting for a national Ukrainian power:
        - tolerant - until quietly, hto positively put up to our struggle for the right to be ruled by the rulers of their land in their own land: “We will put the place for us here” (S. Bandera);tolerant - to those who have a positive attitude towards our struggle for the right to be the masters of their destiny on their land: "There is enough room for all of us here" (S. Bandera);
        - a little more - until quiet, hto protidіє to the processes of the Ukrainian national vіdrodzhenіya and state creation.hostile - for those who oppose the processes of Ukrainian national revival and state formation.

        Politrada "Right Sector"
        Threat. I would like to remind myself that in the best times for Bandera, 41–43. there wasn’t enough space for them in Galicia - the Germans and the Oun - Melnikovs prevented them and they left for the whole fascist occupation during the fascist occupation in the Rivne forests - to do the terror of the local population and languid skirmishes with the Polish and Soviet partisans.
    3. woron333444
      woron333444 18 March 2014 11: 46
      +3
      Yes, without bribery, just let me know the points where to go and give up along with the equipment, they will come by themselves, they just don’t know where to go
      1. Kuvabatake
        Kuvabatake 18 March 2014 13: 10
        +1
        I agree with this. yes Do not want to take part in the fratricidal war, come there on such conditions. fellow drinks Well, he didn’t come ... fool I'm sorry to rake according to the version-a fascist? receive, sign ... angry
      2. RONIN-HS
        18 March 2014 23: 14
        0
        Yes, it is clear that "without bribery" is good and highly moral, you need to know the psychology and "gentle mentality" (or whatever ...) lads from Ukraine.
        Without bribery - this is good and correct, but with a Mercedes it is somehow more convincing. repeat
        And then - renting out the old "Moskvich" for scrap, you do not give up the money, right? And here, for example, the lads drove a whole serviceable tank !!! And what - for nothing, right? "Hardware" costs so much real money that you never dreamed of ... in general, the trophyers will figure it out ... good
    4. revnagan
      revnagan 18 March 2014 12: 08
      0
      Quote: bulvas
      Bribing an enemy is always cheaper than fighting, not to mention spilled blood.

      You don’t have to bribe anyone. The enemy clearly defined his face, now he needs that person on the table. Those who took up arms from the Ukrainian side can simply be offered TOGETHER to go towards Kiev and TOGETHER put things in order. Explain that having weapons, Bandera’s people shouldn’t be afraid that with the same weapons it is allowed (and even encouraged) to protect civilians, family members from Bandera attacks. All members of the Right Sector should be outlawed, regardless of their location. And all of us will go with it’s a pleasure to hunt a rabbit and an asshole with a company. You just need to make it clear that there will be nothing for our military for this. There is no Hague there and other judicial crap. Kill the fascist where you saw him. And the point. But! It will only work until blood wasn’t spilled. And it’s precisely to the bloodshed that the asshole people and the gang are pushing. It is necessary to act in advance. It is necessary to initiate mass protests by soldiers’s wives and mothers. And to offer material benefits for surrender is somehow not ours. I repeat, I must offer to throw off the clique together and allow me to do whatever I want with the rebels, without trial or investigation.
  3. mamont5
    mamont5 18 March 2014 10: 50
    +15
    Advocacy is undoubtedly necessary. But I think this will be done already. But promise not Mercedes, but a normal peaceful life. This will be more relevant for many.
  4. svetlomor
    svetlomor 18 March 2014 10: 50
    -2
    What nonsense !? How then can the army respect itself?
    1. Refund_SSSR
      Refund_SSSR 18 March 2014 10: 55
      +16
      Which army? Ukrainian? This is by chance not the same army about the sale of which the last 20 years have been legendary?
      1. svetlomor
        svetlomor 18 March 2014 11: 03
        0
        Russian army.
    2. bulvas
      bulvas 18 March 2014 10: 56
      +6
      Quote: svetlomor
      How then can the army respect itself


      And what about the army? It is not about protecting your land, it is about decomposing the army of the enemy on its territory. The army operation will have a negative effect, our soldiers and soldiers of the Ukrainian army, which is not an enemy for us, will die.
      1. svetlomor
        svetlomor 18 March 2014 11: 00
        +1
        In order to remove the regime in Kiev, war is not needed, and if you pay in every conflict, then why the army.
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 18 March 2014 11: 14
          +8
          Quote: svetlomor
          and if you pay in every conflict, then why the army.

          The army is, in fact, the last argument. And to pay so that the mothers of living sons would wait, both on our side and on that side.
    3. Scandinavian
      Scandinavian 18 March 2014 11: 03
      +9
      What nonsense !? How then can the army respect itself?


      In the war with the enemy, all methods are good, but the enemy is currently the oligarchs of Ukraine and the west ... they send the military as cannon fodder ...
    4. zzz
      zzz 18 March 2014 11: 04
      +9
      Quote: svetlomor
      What nonsense !? How then can the army respect itself?


      I think that just when the Army ceases to obey the orders of the brown plague, and takes the side of the people, they will begin to respect it! And I agree with:

      mamont5 RU
      Advocacy is undoubtedly necessary. But I think this will be done already. But promise not Mercedes, but a normal peaceful life. This will be more relevant for many.
    5. RONIN-HS
      18 March 2014 23: 23
      0
      Quote svetlomor "... What nonsense !? How then can the army respect itself? ..."
      And how did the Army respect itself after August 1991?
      How did the Army respect itself after October 1993?
      How does the Army respect itself, leaving half of NATO's Europe, leaving almost all its equipment, 400 airfields, ammunition, even special equipment there?
      So worry, not the first time. We must not let blood spill, time is working for Russia and Putin. And I would not want to remind you on this day of the holiday (Crimea OUR !!!), but they themselves begged for, since the memory is short ... hi
  5. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 18 March 2014 10: 52
    +17
    Therefore, instead of a normal dialogue with the East and Novorossiya, neo-Bandera-fascists frantically mobilize and send everything that can shoot to the East of Ukraine. With the prospect of opening the Eastern Front-2 against its people and Russia. The history and finale of the German Eastern Front does not teach them anything; their masters need revenge.
    For revenge, you need to solve the problem with aviation, which will iron the newly-minted guardsmen lengthwise and the only way to achieve at least something is to repeat the German offensive in the Ardennes, when the Americans could not use aviation because of bad weather. I’ll think about their experience and take advantage , the more Hitler is held in high esteem.
    As for the rest, a car in exchange for weapons and vouchers. Well, who will lead to such nonsense. If a person does not want to fight with his brother, then he will not be without money, the rest of Bandera) will strangle themselves from hatred, but they will not cross over to us. Yes and we don’t need them.
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    2. alexng
      alexng 18 March 2014 11: 02
      +4
      Bandera is not necessary for us. It’s the same as running a goat in the garden. Orcs in Africa will remain orcs.
    3. sribnuu
      sribnuu 18 March 2014 11: 10
      -103%
      What about the oath? But the whole turn goes) Our residents of the eastern regions are blocking military equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And on your part, someone blocked) No! this is not a brotherhood)
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 18 March 2014 11: 14
        +27
        Quote: sribnuu
        And on your part, someone blocked) No! this is not a brotherhood)

        And in our country there is no chaos, and therefore they are not blocking. It will be necessary, they will also add diesel fuel, so that it would be enough for Kiev tongue
        Quote: sribnuu
        No! this is not a brotherhood)

        Yatsenyuk, Klitschko, Tyagnybok, and all the maidanut us not brothers!
        And you yourself, while learning the anthem of Russia, we’ll come check.
        1. soaring
          soaring 18 March 2014 11: 47
          +5
          Alexander Romanov, thank you - you described my thoughts much easier and more intelligibly, this is relative to sribnuu .... Therefore, you ++++++ good drinks
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 18 March 2014 11: 57
            +1
            Quote: soaring
            You ++++

            I return bully
        2. Ascetic
          Ascetic 18 March 2014 12: 39
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And in our country there is no chaos, and therefore they are not blocking. It will be necessary, they will also add diesel fuel, so that it would be enough for Kiev

          I remember in 1990. on the march of the division in the afternoon APU initial lost the column had to stop on the Yaroslavl highway, and the road was blocked. the people gathered there immediately appeared some indignant deputies, the democrats, began to scamper, call the invaders (and this is in the Russian outback), as always, the cops were not escorted (although they were obliged by contract, Now the police abandoned their VAI). I had to slightly suppress the armored personnel carrier (at that moment I headed the reconnaissance group and provided military security on the march) and the spontaneous rally immediately subsided and resolved. With blocking nuclear weapons jokes are bad.
          And in the army, if the vast majority does not recognize such orders or considers them criminal, there are many ways to sabotage them without violating the oath and the law ...
          As the saying goes, do not rush to fulfill the order. The command "Set aside!"
      2. IGS
        IGS 18 March 2014 11: 18
        +12
        Our residents of the eastern regions block military equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
        What do you have to do with it? Tell us, as the daughter of an officer, how ambiguous everything is. wassat
      3. tungus
        tungus 18 March 2014 11: 19
        +10
        Quote: sribnuu
        What about the oath? But the whole turn goes) Our residents of the eastern regions are blocking military equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And on your part, someone blocked) No! this is not a brotherhood)

        They don't block us from our side because our army is not going to fight with the people. Not with the Russian. nor with Ukrainian. Unlike the army of Ukraine, or rather not even the army, but the "national guard" -storm squadrons of the Banderlog. You have already dispersed all the officers and replaced them with maydauns with armbands from the right sector.
        1. Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
          0
          "National Guard" -storm squads of Banderlog

          Yes, what is the assault troops! In the SA at least some order was. And these are detachments of gopnik-milk-suckers and ordinary bandyukov. Even among themselves are already beginning to cut.
      4. RN40Y45
        RN40Y45 18 March 2014 11: 35
        +3
        that few people regretted when they swore first to the USSR, and then to independent Ukraine, I witnessed this moment. some do not get used to the APU.
      5. tolancop
        tolancop 18 March 2014 11: 47
        +5
        And with the oath, everything is fine. It is not so important what wording is in it, but in essence the oath is given to the PEOPLE.
        And yet there is a charter. The Charter of the Soviet Army clearly stated that "a criminal order is not subject to execution." (By the way, the most inconvenient question for the political officers was how to distinguish a criminal order from a legal one, they were constantly distorted from it ...). Over the years, I understand that the ambiguity of the requirements of the charter, requiring on the one hand the unquestioning execution of the order, and on the other prohibiting the execution of criminal orders without specifying what exactly is criminal, was a wise decision - follow the order, but THINK WHAT YOU DO. I do not think that the Charter of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Charter of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are very different from the Soviet one.
      6. Zapasnoy
        Zapasnoy 18 March 2014 11: 48
        +6
        Quote: sribnuu
        What about the oath? But the whole turn goes) Our residents of the eastern regions are blocking military equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And on your part, someone blocked) No! this is not a brotherhood)

        Mr. Canadian of Ukrainian descent, no matter how you want, how much you hate us, how much you stomp your feet, it will still be our way. Because the truth is behind us. It is not we who want to kick someone out, belittle, take away language and property. It is not we who hate you and want to kill you. We want to restore, build and protect. Although, you don’t understand, since you are already numb in your point of view, and you live not in the east of Ukraine, but in some kind of Toronto. Do not want to delve into even the history (non-politicized) of our peoples, our deep relationship.
        I look, this today's shabosh in Ukraine pleases you. Well, nothing, soon everything will change, whether you want it or not. And the point!
      7. Evgen_Vasilich
        Evgen_Vasilich 18 March 2014 12: 18
        +2
        Well, you and ... a bad person in general! our why then do it? our army does not fulfill the command of fascist law-enforcement officers! minus you, lad american! Pentagon troll! and the picture is necessary to remove, it hurts from it stinks !!!!
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      9. oblako
        oblako 18 March 2014 12: 22
        +2
        And bring the brotherhood of fascists to power? Keep your Natsik in check ... I have questions for the heirs of those who burned Khatyn ...
      10. revnagan
        revnagan 18 March 2014 12: 24
        +1
        Quote: sribnuu
        Our residents of the eastern regions block military equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

        This is because technology is moving in the wrong direction! People from the East want and demand, ON KIEV!
      11. Normal
        Normal 18 March 2014 12: 34
        +1
        Quote: sribnuu
        ...No! this is not a brotherhood)


        You are not my brother to me, Ukraine zapadenskaya.
      12. Kadavercianin
        Kadavercianin 18 March 2014 20: 38
        0
        And the execution by the Berkut subdivision of orders to open fire on those who protested this crime?
        That is, if servicemen under oath, by order, shoot at the Maydan’s soldiers, then this is a crime, and if the army does not want to fight (does not follow orders), then how is this crime?
        I don’t understand something, no matter how you do it, it’s all the same to blame.
    4. irk_tma
      irk_tma 18 March 2014 11: 49
      +1
      Alexander, welcome! hi
      nothing will come of bad weather
      modern aviation is all-weather, but for very extreme conditions (hurricanes, sandstorm, etc.) the latitudes are not the same
    5. Gomunkul
      Gomunkul 18 March 2014 12: 31
      0
      The only way to achieve at least something is to repeat the German offensive in the Ardennes, when the Americans could not use aircraft because of bad weather
      You treat them as a worthy adversary, forgetting that you are dealing not with a predator, but with a scavenger. hi
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  6. ikken
    ikken 18 March 2014 10: 53
    +8
    Such a project will not "take off". They will shout "aha, they realized that they can't take us with a weapon, they want to buy us! Yes, we have to stand for a day and a night to hold out. Hurray, hurray, they dropped Salo!" Yes, yes - there is just such a wild fusion of Soviet-Bandera propaganda.
    1. a52333
      a52333 18 March 2014 11: 17
      +1
      There will be 20%. But they, you know, for a company man .... hanged himself
  7. morpogr
    morpogr 18 March 2014 10: 53
    +6
    And will there be a price list for the heads of revolutionaries?
    1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
      Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 18 March 2014 11: 21
      +3
      morpogr And for the heads of the revolutionaries there will be a price list?

      Not now. The southeast will be glad to get rid of this evil spirits. And zapadentsy will hand over banderlogs for money.
    2. Bepdukt
      Bepdukt 18 March 2014 12: 00
      0
      They don’t pay for spoiled goods, especially the one with a sweetheart.
  8. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 18 March 2014 10: 53
    +23
    Polite calm well-armed groups (without identification marks) with the support of the legendary Golden Eagle and the local population Can do a lot!
  9. avant-garde
    avant-garde 18 March 2014 10: 55
    0
    Yeah, and in the case of real hostilities, then they will go to whom to visit the EU or syshya ???
    1. from punk
      from punk 18 March 2014 10: 58
      +2
      Quote: avant-garde
      Yeah, and in the case of real hostilities, then they will go to whom to visit the EU or syshya ???

      Brest is unforgettable. Veterans say ho..hly the first fell off to the fascists. It was more reliable for the Caucasians behind their backs than their backs to the zapadents
  10. domokl
    domokl 18 March 2014 10: 56
    +8
    The author forgot that the highest Ukrainian command was Soviet officers ... And they will be bought with great difficulty. And to add Slavic obstinacy, what I call horniness (from horned horn) ... It will not work.
    But the Ukrainian units will not go to war ... simply because the maydauns understand that the army will stop the database immediately after the declaration of war ... why fight then? So minus the author. I repeat, for considering the Ukrainian army to be not Russian. ..
    1. Refund_SSSR
      Refund_SSSR 18 March 2014 10: 59
      +4
      Quote: domokl
      Soviet officers ... And they will be bought with great difficulty

      Officers may not buy it, but the brothers push the equipment only on the road ... laughing
      If they want to eat, then the tank is not like a Mercedes - they will change the tinned box.
      There are examples of such "feats" in the UA army and there are more than enough of them.
      Quote: domokl
      So minus the author. I repeat, for considering the Ukrainian army not Russian ...
      That is the whole problem, that it is a problem not only of Ukraine, but also of Russia, and even more so of the whole world.
    2. silver-7410
      silver-7410 18 March 2014 11: 23
      +3
      I support the plan, the utopian mentality in the troops is still Russian (these are the same Russians who do not give up), besides, multiplied by the 23-year-old zombie with independence! My classmate, with whom they were sitting at the same desk, played war against the "Germans" at one time to his grandfather in Poltava, and my mother still lives in Russia, and so ... I have no more friend, because I am an occupier !!! belay
  11. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 18 March 2014 10: 58
    +13
    Every opinion needs to be respected.
    But personally, I believe that nothing prevents the Ukrainian military from coming to the border crossing with Russia and surrendering the weapons equipment to the Russians.
    Nothing prevents the Ukrainian military from electing a commander who is against the Maidan and his militants with the Rada and go west to Kiev and throw off the evil obsession from the country.
    It’s even strange why no one of their SBU military has united before the goal of liberating from the heritage of Bandera-Hitler.
    Well, you will get in touch with the Russian special services - ask for help and somewhere in Donetsk or Kharkiv, announce that such and such a part goes over to the side of the people and expects the other military (to whom the envoys-negotiators should have gone) the same. They say come or go to Kiev "for freedom".
    They see, after all, that the Russians are not conducting any invasion, and there have always been enough savvy heads and normal men among the Ukrainian military. After all, they studied in some textbooks.
    Well, after all, they brought the country to anarchy. Now let's go to the Russian machine gun - wash the Nazi inclinations of the new government with blood.
    1. Siberian19
      Siberian19 18 March 2014 11: 34
      -1
      during World War I there were such precedents that the Russians and Germans sang songs to each other instead of attacking each other and arranged dances! So these are the Germans! But what about Ukraine? hi
  12. Arbatov
    Arbatov 18 March 2014 10: 58
    +5
    Unfortunately, this is idyllic and utopian. If everything was so simple, people would live without war.
    And propaganda is really needed. Yes, it is underway. Crimea is an excellent brainwashing. We are waiting for the speech of the President.
  13. UVB
    UVB 18 March 2014 10: 58
    +4
    1. The Russian authorities are widely notify the Ukrainian troops that Russia insists on a political solution to the contradictions, and in order to prevent bloodshed, it proposes to move with military equipment to the collection points on the border.
    And how can this be practically done in conditions when the junta by all possible means blocks access to information from Russia? Unless throw leaflets from the air. I mean military units. The population still has satellite TV and the Internet, but it seems to me that these Natsiks will soon take up the dishes.
  14. Monk
    Monk 18 March 2014 10: 58
    +3
    Quote: svetlomor
    What nonsense !? How then can the army respect itself?


    That is, if she puts the civilian population of her country, then the authority will be like a "fool makhorka"?
  15. Auralski
    Auralski 18 March 2014 10: 59
    +11
    No need to intern. It’s just that units that do not obey Bandera and want to go over to the side of Russia receive social guarantees, like the Russian military, and continue to serve. Only their task is to stop the revelry of the Maidan.
    1. zzz
      zzz 18 March 2014 11: 09
      +4
      Quote: AUralski
      No need to intern. It’s just that units that do not obey Bandera and want to go over to the side of Russia receive social guarantees, like the Russian military, and continue to serve. Only their task is to stop the revelry of the Maidan.


      It would be very reasonable. Or maybe our Min.Oborona has already thought about this too?
  16. Nightcrawler
    Nightcrawler 18 March 2014 11: 00
    +6
    Among the "Guests" there may be many who will give a lot of headaches to the "Hosts". Westerners, nationalists, foschists, finally. So this is perhaps not the best option - bribery. Strength, as you know, is not in money. Truth is power, brother. And the truth is ours.


    Well, what to do, do not kill the brothers Slavs, albeit slightly zombie. We must think how to get this nonsense out of them.
  17. Dimkin
    Dimkin 18 March 2014 11: 00
    +3
    Bribery is certainly better than open war, but maybe it’s worth the wait and slowly suppress these senility in Kiev. Firstly, their treasury is at zero, secondly, all of their new laws are just crazy nonsense that needs ephtanasia, and thirdly, in Europe they have already begun to understand what, if not all, is needed and not as fast as we would like, but they understand. Fourthly, the threat of sanctions due to the severance of the Mistral contract and the freezing of the accounts of some oligarchs in Europe is not very painful for us.
  18. Gagarin
    Gagarin 18 March 2014 11: 00
    +19
    It seems to me that turmoil called MOBILIZATION will soon suffocate itself, the money will finally end soon.
    The main thing is to prevent provocation.
    1. Scandinavian
      Scandinavian 18 March 2014 11: 05
      +19
      It seems to me that turmoil called MOBILIZATION will soon suffocate itself, the money will finally end soon.
      The main thing is to prevent provocation.


      Money for partisans is about to flow there ... partisans and militants are the favorite thing of mattresses and merkels ...
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    2. revnagan
      revnagan 18 March 2014 12: 40
      0
      Quote: Gagarin
      the money will finally end soon.

      Money ... There is no grub! The summoned are sent home with a request! Collect something to devour! The mother-zhinka will put it in the "sidor", and again to defend the "Motherland"!
  19. LOCKS
    LOCKS 18 March 2014 11: 06
    +3
    I agree in principle. Save is always more profitable than restoring. And the war between fraternal peoples (this is exactly what will happen, since the Maidan people will kindle it and, having received it in the face, will go underground), this is exactly what the geyropa and drafts seek. In general, weapons are always the best way to redeem than to conquer. You can’t buy and never give back human lives.
  20. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 18 March 2014 11: 06
    +3
    Yes, we too should already work in Ukraine, including with the military. Banderlogs do work to pit us. The option proposed by the author is quite acceptable. There may be other forms, for example, the neutralization of Banderloch leaders.
    1. hz123
      hz123 18 March 2014 11: 11
      +1
      you need to work, like Suvorov with the Turks in a fortress, which is like x .. when it comes down
  21. Jedi
    Jedi 18 March 2014 11: 07
    +1
    The normal option. There is only one cant in the plan. Normal pro-Russian military have already been dismissed from the Ukrainian army and replaced by Bendera
  22. ZU-23
    ZU-23 18 March 2014 11: 08
    +4
    What exactly is it that they really are waiting for blood, they need provocations to attract more people to this war, plus for the western master to pay attention to the poor, but the owner has only promised them grub, which is so rampant in Ukraine.
  23. Prokopyevnick
    Prokopyevnick 18 March 2014 11: 12
    +4
    Quote: Geisenberg
    Quote: Stiletto
    Among the "Guests" there may be many who will give a lot of headaches to the "Hosts". Westerners, nationalists, foschists, finally. So this is perhaps not the best option - bribery. Strength, as you know, is not in money. Truth is power, brother. And the truth is ours.


    Siberia is full of cozy places for everyone.

    Strength brother, really in truth. Put all these zapadentsev and pravosek under total brainwashing and then send back to ruin.

    we don’t have much space in Siberia :( and you still want to bring any Nazi trash to us
  24. mvv
    mvv 18 March 2014 11: 12
    +1
    in this situation, the article is enchanting nonsense - because we hastily buy them military. their loyalty. when the official madness begins with default, presidential elections (Klitschko tried to drive east a week ago - and what happened?), new tariffs. mess and showdown between maydaunami. THERE IS AN EXAMPLE: Crimean version. There will be an example - Donetsk. I am sure that the power of the people will be established there. which will require the federalization of Ukraine. but will not want to join the Russian Federation.
  25. Bakht
    Bakht 18 March 2014 11: 13
    0
    For fun article is suitable. For serious discussion - no. You can print on the website of jokes or jokes.
  26. Name
    Name 18 March 2014 11: 13
    +4
    Before starting the operation "Crimea Ukraine" I am sure more than a dozen analysts have calculated ANY OPTIONS OF ACTIONS of our "partners", and what is being done on the part of RUSSIA is thoughtful, balanced and MOST IMPORTANT IS UNEXPECTED FOR 3,14 doses and their slimes in the person of Kiev .. . government.
  27. Nasrat
    Nasrat 18 March 2014 11: 16
    +8
    The army is pulled to the Donbass for provocations and to strengthen the police against the civilian population of the East, which is ready to repeat the Crimean scenario. Maidan commissioners are assigned to the officers, who are ready to duplicate them if they refuse to follow orders. And also serve to intimidate personnel. No one has canceled the charter, everyone has a family, and conscripts were intimidated by Kitschs and disbats. The generals will receive apartments in Kiev, and small bipods a bullet. Only a bullet of Bandera’s is nearby, and the Russian is far from the fact that it will fly. Something like this.
    1. irk_tma
      irk_tma 18 March 2014 11: 43
      +5
      mmm, but don’t they know that as soon as a bullet flies out, that which is nearby, something lead can fly very quickly (and not only) from the east
      okay maidanutye, .... this has nothing to lose
      and officers? especially junior and middle command
      I know firsthand - the brain usually begins to atrophy after washing colonel stars
  28. ruslan__86
    ruslan__86 18 March 2014 11: 16
    +2
    see the hand is stretched to a brighter future
  29. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 18 March 2014 11: 17
    +2
    Most of the population of Ukraine with Russia! Now the task is to prevent Bandera’s activists from being pulled out and protect their families (after all, they will take their wife’s children hostage in Chechnya, they have learned this well ..)) This must be assumed by the Golden Eagle (new and in the same form)
  30. mountaineer
    mountaineer 18 March 2014 11: 18
    +10
    yes funny article! laughing
  31. Santor
    Santor 18 March 2014 11: 19
    +15
    Quote: domokl
    The author forgot that the highest Ukrainian command was Soviet officers ... And they will be bought with great difficulty. And to add Slavic obstinacy, what I call horniness (from horned horn) ... It will not work.
    But the Ukrainian units will not go to war ... simply because the maydauns understand that the army will stop the database immediately after the declaration of war ... why fight then? So minus the author. I repeat, for considering the Ukrainian army to be not Russian. ..


    We already went through this in June 1941, don't you remember? "As soon as Hitler declares war on the Soviet Union, the workers and peasants, forcibly mobilized by the fascists, will turn their bayonets against the masters and overthrow Hitler." How many years did they turn, huh?

    The day before yesterday, a column entered the Donetsk region. Did you see how bmd hit people? How the operator was hit and he fell under her and she drove over him ... And if the man had not dodged or would it have been a woman?

    I have relatives there, and everyone screams that we are the last scoundrels to open our mouths to Ukraine, not to see us like our ears, take yours, I’m a Nazi face, I’ve got myself at least 20 million .... Attempts to say that it’s a screen under which they don’t give you any sense .. They shout - we don’t give a damn, let the last pants take us off but we will strangle you ... About Crimea - Putin is a scoundrel, almost everyone calls him Hitler, stupidly watches TV ... Sister writes from 20 classmates only those two who live in Donetsk for Russia ... And wonder how they do not see that they are deceiving t ... In Donetsk, no opposition, go 3 000 dressed kgbeshnikov all the cities and beaten pretty boy .... Do you have something to counter this nonsense when you stupidly did not want to listen?
    All the troubles from Russia - now what’s in the brains of lovely Ukrainian men and women ... Give Crimea, and these, I’m a Nazi face, let them kick you into Siberia and don’t care that there are 2 million of them ....

    And here you are writing about giving up ... Have you watched the interview of the pilot-commander in Belbek? The salary is like that of a Russian contractor, not a stake or a yard, for the 23 years of service I did not learn an apartment, but we’ll shoot back with my wife until the last bullet ... Is this being treated? Than? I know how, but I would not want to ... Oh, how I would not want to ...
    1. rapid1934
      rapid1934 18 March 2014 11: 46
      +6
      Unfortunately it's true. I know from personal communication with people living in Ukraine. request There they washed their brains so much that there is no other opinion for them.
      Russia is losing the information war! request It is here that maximum efforts must be made, otherwise blood may spill. hi
    2. Name
      Name 18 March 2014 12: 00
      0
      Quote: Santor
      23 year of service did not teach the apartment, but screaming with his wife will shoot until the last cartridge ... Is it treated? Than? I know how, but I wouldn’t want to ... Oh, I don’t want to ..

      23 of the year, from the USSR ... ALWAYS THERE A CHOICE ... ALWAYS! not always acceptable .... soldier hi
  32. Coffee_time
    Coffee_time 18 March 2014 11: 19
    +2
    It is necessary, no, it is necessary to remove the cancerous tumor pointwise, then all the symptoms themselves will subside, and while the junta commands the republic, the military as hostages of the situation will wait for the order to die.
  33. gandalf
    gandalf 18 March 2014 11: 19
    +4
    Bribing ... not our method. Where is the guarantee that the one who sells honor now will not sell it to another then. I would consider such an attitude offensive. But to explain that, in which case, they will fight for the good of the oligarchs, to explain that we will not come to conquer, but it is necessary to liberate.

    In the world you can find many people who are ready to kill for money, but no one wants to die for money.
    1. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov 18 March 2014 12: 30
      +1
      Quote: gandalf
      explain that, in which case, they will fight for the good of the oligarchs, explain that we will not come to conquer, but it is necessary to liberate.

      The whole question is HOW to explain?
      For 23 years they were told that the earth stands on 3 elephants, 23 !!!
      Where can I find arguments to explain that this is not so?
  34. tnship2
    tnship2 18 March 2014 11: 20
    +2
    Organize a collection point for military equipment of Ukraine somewhere on the border and set real prices with complete anonymity, even with the replacement of personal documents. The process will go.
  35. Slavkovich
    Slavkovich 18 March 2014 11: 23
    +1
    There is rational grain .... Not in the sense of trying to buy, but to propagandize.
  36. vkrav
    vkrav 18 March 2014 11: 23
    +1
    Because all wars always end at the negotiating table.

    ... by signing an unconditional surrender.
    With whom is this author going to negotiate? With a herd of ukrobarans who are being driven somewhere and they obediently go ?? One such one has already agreed - his name is Yanukovisch ... The author of Tolerast cookies has overdone ... From the style and ideas you can see from the managers gentleman ...
  37. sribnuu
    sribnuu 18 March 2014 11: 24
    -28%
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Yatsenyuk, Klitschko, Tyagnybok, and all the maidanut us not brothers!


    Your brothers are already in Russia - Yanukovych, Medvedchuk, etc.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 18 March 2014 12: 31
      +3
      Quote: sribnuu
      Your brothers are already in Russia -

      Are you hinting about Crimea laughing
    2. revnagan
      revnagan 18 March 2014 12: 55
      +3
      Quote: sribnuu
      Your brothers are already in Russia - Yanukovych, Medvedchuk, etc.

      And yours, a fascist, are in Galicia. If you are tearing your ass for Ukraine so much, come here. And forward, as a volunteer, to the military registration and enlistment office. And personal examples, in the forefront, "Drang nach Osten." If you love Ukraine so much, why did you sniff then to Canada? "God, hide Ukraine, let's sweat, I'll turn around!"? And you don't need to see a lot at a distance. Come on, go ahead, along with the asshole and the rabbit: "Cool in the forehead, then cool in the forehead!" Cho, don’t want to!? ”He decided to rake the heat with someone else’s hands. It wouldn’t work out, here at least half of the population don’t consider the Russians enemies. A little less than half, they don’t care at all, if only they didn’t care. And no one wants to fight at all. Porridge was brewed quite specific people - Yarosh, Tyagnibok, Turchinov, Yatsenyuk and other hop-company - let them clean up. But this hop company is ready to strangle already 70 percent of the population. So if you manage to approach them at the distance of an extended pitchfork, they have a chance of survival - 0 ...
  38. Ross
    Ross 18 March 2014 11: 24
    +5
    Quote: Stiletto
    Among the "Guests" there may be many who will give a lot of headaches to the "Hosts". Westerners, nationalists, foschists, finally. So this is perhaps not the best option - bribery. Strength, as you know, is not in money. Truth is power, brother. And the truth is ours.

    Or maybe it's better to bet on the army's going over to the side of the people? Maybe this army with the people will quickly deal with the Bandera? I think the middle and senior officers have suffered humiliation from these "commissars"?
  39. vadimN
    vadimN 18 March 2014 11: 26
    +1
    Jokes - jokes, but what really needs to be invested in serious money is counterpropaganda and all kinds of broadcasting in Ukraine. If you look at what they broadcast about us there, it’s just horror and resentment ... And we are still surprised that only old people speak for Russia there. Young people are thoroughly brainwashed, and this is what needs to be fixed! We are losing the information war! Even if in Russia itself there are a lot of people with brainwashed, then everything is even more corrupted by the Western vision of the situation and the image of the Russian enemy of all the bright and good that only exists in the World ...
  40. shinobi
    shinobi 18 March 2014 11: 27
    +2
    I think it will be easier for our army men to agree with them on a joint operation to clean the Krains from the Maidanutyh. Most likely, things are going on through intelligence channels. Without dust and noise.
  41. Good fellow
    Good fellow 18 March 2014 11: 28
    +3
    Oh! I recall a dialogue of two people where one says to the other:
    - Imagine ?! If two leaders of two countries declare war on each other, and no one is going to fight .. and then what ?!
    Of course, it’s wild to talk about fratricidal war, and even if I get rid of racial prejudice, the death of any person because of a person is perceived by me as cannibalism.
    But there is no dialogue with terror, only an ultimatum on unconditional surrender, as well as with others without compromise. But war in all its manifestations is terrible by repentance.
    Great courage among our people: to find courage and acknowledge the mistakes of even bygone years. Maybe that’s it, this ability to reproach yourself, compassion, and holds us together, children of the Slavic world ?! To find the strength in oneself and admit that there is no peace, but first of all. Remember how we recognized the death of Polish soldiers from our hands ?! Yes! There was an act of retaliation, and we were not the first to start it, the Poles starved our soldiers twenty years before. But only we found the courage to repent and acknowledge.
    We are fair people, sincere. Those who do not understand, those who organized the massacre of the indigenous people of the Indians in America, who went to the "Munich" conspiracy and tore up Czechoslovakia, after which, with a completely shattered memory and cynically ignoring their own conscience, they blamed the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact on us ... and so on and so forth.
    Sometimes a warrior is one who did not allow bloodshed.
    1. Sma11
      Sma11 18 March 2014 11: 50
      +2
      Remember how we recognized the death of Polish soldiers from our hands ?!

      Too muddy story. And still obscure.
  42. Coffee_time
    Coffee_time 18 March 2014 11: 30
    +1
    No, there the situation is already fully developed for the war, turning off the Russian body and radio, brainwashing in every way, only the shock of them from the zombie box will tear, but this shock can be very, very deplorable. All the same, then we will be blamed for all sins
  43. shelva
    shelva 18 March 2014 11: 31
    +1
    Each banderlog for a Shamil flintlock gun will require a Mercedes - you will not save enough. They are very eager for someone else's good these zapadentsy.
  44. svp67
    svp67 18 March 2014 11: 32
    +2
    Here, at the point of delivery of military equipment, each guest of the Russian Federation will be provided forever for personal use: a car, a pre-announced award, an identity card and a ticket to the resorts of Crimea, Sochi and Caucasian Mineral Waters.
    And how to protect the families of the "guests" ... No, let them now decide everything for themselves, time is playing against the "usurpers" ... and as it has happened in Ukraine more than once, soon the bulk of people will curse her and shout that we were deceived ...
  45. Vtel
    Vtel 18 March 2014 11: 32
    +2
    It all depends on the degree of brainwashing of the Judeo-Bandera clique. "The Russian revolt is senseless and merciless." One hope is in the Lord God, that he will enlighten us all and the mustache will not be bad.
  46. Quantum
    Quantum 18 March 2014 11: 32
    +1
    It's time! In Crimea, the remnants of military units are ready to go the other day.
    In the east, it’s necessary to bring down the pavers and under the guise of an offensive, go over
    to Russia. In vain, the Donetsk governor oligarch spent money on a moat.
  47. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 18 March 2014 11: 38
    +3
    With cars and trips, of course, bust. But the idea is right. It is necessary to deploy mass agitation among the Ukrainian military about the meaninglessness of any military operations. Security guarantees and material interest can also be envisaged. If at least some part is heeded, this is a plus.
    British journalist Graham Phillips, who is now in Ukraine, noticed another column of Ukrainian military equipment near the border with Crimea. He spoke with the soldiers, who, according to him, are themselves disappointed by the Kiev authorities and are not eager to fight.
    And I think that such a morale of the troops is not only in the Crimean direction.
    Only a massive transition to the neutral side is not yet necessary. Surely they and their families are "on the pencil" by the Praveseks.
  48. skyil
    skyil 18 March 2014 11: 39
    +2
    I am against the article "-", if you do this, then how do we differ from the amers? And for our own short fire. Nope, it will not work!
    1. RONIN-HS
      18 March 2014 23: 57
      0
      Americans inflated their green candy wrappers - bucks, the real occupancy of a buck is somewhere 6 cents, there are such estimates. And it is known to EVERYTHING in the world. But the world continues to idolize this green paper due to inertia and the devil knows it in the name of what ...! request
      Only a very stubborn optimist still does not understand that the "green" is coming KIRDYK! So why feel sorry for her? To burn out in the fire of default, zeroing on the servers of banks ??? And so, you can finally use it for business in order to save at least something from destruction.
      INTERESTING is that, all a priori "recognize" for some kind of corruptionists and oligarchs a PERSONAL financial interest, well, this is a status as a cross for a priest, or a kippah for a rabbi. Remember how in Sholokhov's "Virgin Land Upturned" - "... since I am a fist, then I am supposed to have a sawn-off shotgun! ..." laughing And to think that these deceived ones may have the dream of their entire short life is to save money for a car and then tax it to feed a Zhinka and a child - many lack this in mind. Apparently they have already fulfilled this dream, or they don’t care because of their age ... wink
  49. Corsair
    Corsair 18 March 2014 11: 39
    +2
    Quote: from article
    Therefore, I propose to complete the project "Guest"

    The vector in the article is set correctly, but the operation must be performed covertly, as is the case with Iraqi generals.
    AND" active phase"With the transfer of units to our side, it is necessary to carry out at the very last moment, thus leaving the fascists no time for any intelligible reaction ...
  50. nas leonid
    nas leonid 18 March 2014 11: 40
    +3
    And I thought that soon there would be free tours in Europe on the T-90 tank, my father on the T-34 reached Prague.