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Russia and Ukraine, and all the other republics of the former USSR are colonies of the USA

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A colony is a dependent territory under the authority of a foreign state (metropolis), without independent political and economic power, managed on the basis of a special regime.


Since 1991, the media, public figures and politicians have formed the point of view that Ukraine is an independent state, and the reason for the poor standard of living of the overwhelming number of citizens in stupid or corrupt officials and bad laws. In fact, everything is so, but this is only the tip of the iceberg. In order to dig deeper and see the whole picture, you need to go back a little to history.

Almost immediately after the victory over Nazi Germany in 1946, Ukraine, being a fairly independent republic (had its own constitution and place in the UN), being part of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, entered the Cold War, which began between the capitalist and socialist camps.

The US government's top priority was to achieve the full military superiority of the Americans over the Russians. The United States and its NATO allies in the NATO bloc began implementing their policies as early as 1947 by introducing a whole system of restrictive and prohibitive measures for the USSR in the financial and commercial spheres. In short, America wanted to defeat the Soviet Union economically. Which was finally achieved. The Cold War ended on July 1 on Prague 1991 with the signing of the Protocol on the complete cessation of the Warsaw Pact, concluded between the socialist countries.

Please note that in our media and in the speeches of our politicians it is said that the Cold War has ended. However, Western politicians openly say that the Cold War was won by them, and even award those who have distinguished themselves with special medals.

But if the Cold War was won by the United States and its allies, then the USSR, and therefore Ukraine, which was part of the Soviet Union, lost it. This is where the most interesting thing begins, which is not generally accepted in the media. The essence of the war lies not only in defeating the enemy, but also in subordinating the losers to its political will and forcing it to pay tribute (reparation, indemnity), that is, material and monetary compensation in the form of regular system payments in any form convenient to the winner.
It happened with the USSR. The Soviet Union was divided into “independent states,” in which Western advisers, under the control of the CIA, began to actively form governments and the main vector of transformation — the transformation of a superpower into 15-operated neo-colonies. But this was not presented to the public as a result of defeat, but as a victory for democracy and the struggle for the independence of the peoples oppressed by the totalitarian Soviet power.

But dismemberment did not stop. Efficient operation and management implied structural reforms and the creation of management mechanisms and the collection of tribute payments in a modern form. Structural reforms ensured the almost complete destruction of science and high-tech industries and the transformation of Ukraine into a supplier of resources, products with low added value and cheap labor. Moreover, conditions in the form of high interest rates on loans and low barrage customs duties were maliciously created inside Ukraine, under which it is impossible to restore or create large-scale high-tech enterprises from scratch.

In order to turn these anti-people transformations, it was necessary to adopt a number of fundamental laws, transfer strategic enterprises to private ownership of a handful of loyal “businessmen” to the west and provide informational cover for the whole business. All this was done by forming the five main instruments (mechanisms) of external control of Ukraine. In this article we mention them briefly, and in the future we plan to write separate analytical articles on each of them:

Managed political elite and direct agents of influence: The vast majority of high-ranking officials are involved in the plundering of state property and keep their money in Western banks. Despite the official concern of the White House about the high level of Ukrainian corruption, in fact, they are completely satisfied with it, as it allows the US State Department and the CIA to control the entire political and economic elite in Ukraine. In case of refusal to cooperate and comply with the requirements of the United States, the Americans can block the foreign accounts of any Ukrainian official, and when the opportunity arises, simply arrest, as happened with Pavel Lazarenko. Separately, it should be mentioned that many Ukrainian officials and politicians are direct agents of the United States, for example, Yushchenko, Pinzenyk, Rybachuk and others.

The supranational Bank of Ukraine: As a result of the large-scale monetary reform at the beginning of 90-s, the NBU from the state bank, which was supposed to issue money in the amount necessary for the Ukrainian economy for its development, turned into a practically uncontrolled government exchange office that can only issue hryvnia buy-back of reserve currency (mainly dollar or euro) at the interbank currency exchange. Thus, the financial system of Ukraine, and hence its economy, has become completely dependent on foreign exchange earnings, foreign loans and investments. This system, which was first introduced by Britain in the 1849 year to improve the efficiency of exploitation of its colonies, is called the “currency board”. The introduction of this system in Ukraine resulted in huge inflation, high interest rates, and the lack of opportunities for citizens and enterprises to get cheap loans for a long time (more than 10 years) within Ukraine. The consequence of this artificial restriction on the development of the economy of Ukraine was the almost complete destruction of large high-tech enterprises requiring “long and cheap” credit resources. You can learn more about the work of the NBU in an interview with Sergey Yaremenko. We recommend watching the lectures of Evgeny Fedorov and Valentina Katasonov on the system of the currency committee.

Non-Ukrainian business: In Ukraine, there is not a single Ukrainian oligarch or owner of a large business. Despite the fact that most of them are born on the territory of modern Ukraine and even call themselves Ukrainians, many of them have second citizenship or live with their families in England, Israel or Western Europe. But the main problem is not even that they do not perceive Ukraine as their homeland, and that they treat it as a territory where they temporarily earn money. The main problem is that their entire business is registered offshore, which means that it is not in Ukrainian jurisdiction. Moreover, it is not known for certain who actually is the true owner of the leading Ukrainian enterprises. For example, when investigating the Khodorkovsky case in Russia, it turned out that the ultimate "beneficiary" of Yukos was not Khodorkovsky, but Jacob Rothschild. Naturally, in such a situation, the “Ukrainian” business elite, like Ukrainian officials, is completely dependent on the will of the United States, otherwise they risk losing their bills, real estate, and in some cases freedom. Also, due to the fact that the NBU was deprived of the right to issue for the needs of the economy, Ukrainian business is forced to borrow money for its development from Western financial institutions, and, therefore, it becomes bound up with “European values” hand and foot.

Non-governmental organizations (NGOs): For the effective management of the occupied territory, a network of organizations that receive funding directly or indirectly from the budget of the United States and its allies - the countries of Western Europe, following the instructions of their sponsors-owners, has been created. Examples of such NGOs operating through foreign grants are CHESNO, Stop Censorship, OPORA, and others. Theoretically, such organizations may well exist and benefit Ukraine, but in practice, Ukrainian grantees are involved in political influence on public opinion, manipulation with sociological research and any other actions aimed at undermining the remnants of the state sovereignty of Ukraine. .

In order to approximately imagine the volume of funding for NGOs, you can take the example of Russia, where the State Duma obligated NGOs to account for funding received from abroad. The first data obtained showed that the average amount of grants received by Russian NGOs is approximately 3 billion dollars per year. Dividing this figure into 5 or 10, it will be possible to estimate the approximate amount of funding for NGOs in Ukraine. You can learn more about the activities of grantees in Ukraine from an interview with Vladimir Skachko.

It should be noted that sometimes the US government does not even use intermediaries in the form of NGOs, but rather finances programs of interest to them directly from the budget of its embassy in Ukraine. For example, a special fund of the US Embassy is a permanent sponsor of the LGBT community in Ukraine.

The media disinformation: Information cover the external control of Ukraine is carried out directly through the media. Due to the fact that a rating system was introduced in Ukraine, the media was filled with low-quality information aimed at attracting maximum attention. As a result, the number of cognitive and intellectual programs is constantly being reduced in favor of a primitive reality show. Special attention should be coverage of the political processes in Ukraine. Due to the fact that none of the Ukrainian elite and our overseas owners are not interested in showing the real situation in the country to the citizens of Ukraine, there is a most severe political censorship on the Ukrainian TV channels and other mass media, including the Internet. On 95%, the broadcast is filled with either politicians and experts agitating for the liberal European vector of Ukraine’s development, or propaganda of nationalist ideology with the main slogans “Ukraine is not Russia” and “Get the view of Moscow”. This is despite the fact that at least 40% of Ukrainian citizens support the reunification of Ukraine with the rest of Russia, at least within the framework of the Customs Union.

Currently, the main Ukrainian media are in the hands of the 4 oligarchs: Pinchuk, Akhmetov, Kolomoisky and Firtash. There are also a number of "opposition" media, which are funded by American foundations and non-governmental organizations (Ukrainska Pravda, Radio Liberty) and are the mouthpiece of American propaganda in Ukraine. Therefore, there can be no talk of independence or objectivity of the Ukrainian media. As a result, the entire information space of Ukraine is controlled by the United States, either directly through "its" Ukrainian media, or indirectly through pressure on Ukrainian oligarchs.

The invader or the colonizer has a very simple logic: the colony will pay tribute indefinitely - until it is completely looted or until the people in the colony rises to fight the invader and expel him from their land. It is useless to sit and hope that the situation in Ukraine will become better due to any kind of government reforms that we recommend (read, impose) the United States or Europe. Since our overseas masters and their European vassals-allies in every way impede any attempts to restore the real independence of our country, and in every way support even greater weakening of state sovereignty and increased colonial exploitation of Ukraine, posing as victories for democracy, liberalizing the economy and effective market reforms.

The People’s Liberation Movement has the task of liberating Ukraine from occupation and restoring the state sovereignty of our Motherland.http://ukrnod.org/
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  1. Clegg
    Clegg 18 March 2014 15: 20
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    Better to be a colony of the USA than to live with a scoop.
    1. Lantau
      Lantau 18 March 2014 15: 22
      +33
      Are you serious?
      1. Clegg
        Clegg 18 March 2014 15: 23
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        Quote: Lantau
        Are you serious?

        quite
        1. Lantau
          Lantau 18 March 2014 15: 26
          +24
          Tell me, does Kazakhstan exist within its current borders, to whom should I say thanks?
          1. Clegg
            Clegg 18 March 2014 15: 32
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            Quote: Lantau
            Tell me, does Kazakhstan exist within its current borders, to whom should I say thanks?

            Under our advice, many territories were lost.
            1. Field
              Field 18 March 2014 15: 34
              +51
              Call to Siberia (do not forget to replace the belle), local Kazakhs will explain everything to you easily
              1. elmi
                elmi 18 March 2014 15: 52
                +27
                Hooray! Putin has just called for Crimea to enter Russia!
                1. Partizan
                  Partizan 18 March 2014 15: 54
                  +7
                  Oh really? is it you just woke up?
                  1. elmi
                    elmi 18 March 2014 16: 11
                    +8
                    Quote: Partizan
                    Oh really? is it you just woke up?

                    This is you sleeping. As soon as Putin spoke on TV, he immediately wrote on the reunification of Russia with the Crimea, shared his joy! What are you against?
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                3. Ptah
                  Ptah 18 March 2014 16: 20
                  +14
                  Quote: elmi
                  Putin just made a speech

                  And not only ... In between, Putin pulled the West ...
                  The West is currently crying, comprehending what happened, grimacing rubbing a stressed point ...
                  1. elmi
                    elmi 18 March 2014 16: 27
                    +9
                    Quote: Ptah
                    And not only ... In between, Putin pulled the West ...

                    Yes, I watched the whole performance! Now I look at NTV again. Putin well done, stuck in the west! Let them get used to the fact that Russia can defend its interests.
                    1. I do not care
                      I do not care 18 March 2014 20: 28
                      +1
                      Quote: elmi
                      Russia can defend its interests

                      Where are the theses of this article in the media?

                      the situation in Ukraine is very different from the Russian? -in the light of the above?

                      I hope that - now - the beginning, when our government really begins to make it crooked - straight and starts from the most important thing - it will cease to call black - white, at last it will understand - the people follow it.

                      and with regards to the west and the rest of Ueropah, there are the words of our great poet
                  2. gfs84
                    gfs84 18 March 2014 17: 30
                    +3
                    Yeah, the west is actively turning on the back (they just got out of the habit of "mechanics" there - while it creaks):

                    1. French Foreign Ministry spokesman Romen Nadal said that Russia's participation in the G8 was not suspended, RIA Novosti reported. “The minister only recalled what we already said: that within the framework of G7 / G8, a collective decision was made earlier to suspend participation in preparations for the summit, which was supposed to be held in Sochi,” commented the statement made earlier by French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius Nadal.

                    http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2432801

                    2. The first adviser to the Italian Embassy in Moscow, Samuela Isopi, said that Italy would not change anything in the procedure for issuing visas to Russian tourists due to disagreements between Russia and the EU over the situation in Ukraine, on the contrary, the visa regime will continue to be simplified. “Russia occupies an important place in the growth of tourist flow to Italy.

                    http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2432794

                    True, the British are always stupid:

                    British Foreign Minister William Hague expressed regret over Russia's decision to annex Crimea. He noted that such a move would “lead to isolation” of Russia. “There is a danger that the provocation in another area in Ukraine could be used for further military escalation,” ITAR-TASS quoted the British Foreign Minister.

                    http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2432805

                    But this is genetic, they know oatmeal as glue affects the brain ...)))
                  3. forester
                    forester 18 March 2014 17: 31
                    +2
                    beautifully pulled on and without Vaseline lol
                4. Sakmagon
                  Sakmagon 18 March 2014 17: 23
                  +18
                  It's time for us to think about him.
                  OFFER:
                  Deserved it.
                  1. Imperial
                    Imperial 18 March 2014 17: 54
                    +6
                    He did not bend, he deserved it unambiguously.
                5. macabrekill
                  macabrekill 18 March 2014 20: 12
                  +3
                  Already just by the fact that he brought troops into the Crimea - he stopped the massacre in Ukraine. Honor and praise!
                  But unfortunately, only - suspended. Tymoshenko has not ambiguously indicated that she wants to turn Ukraine into a springboard for sabotage and destabilization on Russian territory. Now the Nazis are already in power in the regions, most likely they will arm them and create "death squads", the reincarnation of the SS Galicia. It is unlikely that some of the Ukrainians will like it, there will simply be nothing to resist (the civilian population), except to shoot from the finger.
                  Now many who supported the Maidan on TV have cooled down a lot, the decrees that are too "popular" are being issued, one "more beautiful" than the other.
              2. platitsyn70
                platitsyn70 18 March 2014 16: 58
                +2
                Call to Siberia (do not forget to replace the belle), local Kazakhs will explain everything to you easily
                Yes, he is not Kazakh, he is a European Sasun, an asshole.
            2. Lantau
              Lantau 18 March 2014 15: 36
              +31
              Under our advice, many territories were lost.

              Learn the story !!! By the way, without Soviet power, Kazakhstan would have remained at the level of modern Afghanistan. And you would run the whistle to buy the heel scratching !!!
              1. Clegg
                Clegg 18 March 2014 15: 38
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                Quote: Lantau
                By the way, without Soviet power, Kazakhstan would have remained at the level of modern Afghanistan.

                History hates the words "If"
                1. Vadim12
                  Vadim12 18 March 2014 15: 45
                  +25
                  Do not worry, the turn will reach Kazakhstan. Do you say nationalism is booming?
                  1. Clegg
                    Clegg 18 March 2014 15: 48
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                    Quote: Vadim12
                    Do you say nationalism is booming?

                    There is no household, there are controlled "leaders" of nationalists who act on orders from above
                2. Lantau
                  Lantau 18 March 2014 15: 46
                  +32
                  History hates the words "If"

                  Young man, I’m not going to convince you and I don’t give a damn about your opinion. You think so, but the Lord is with you. It’s just that I am convinced that it was only thanks to the Soviet Government that my country possessed atomic weapons and was the first to send a man into space and the first to build an atomic icebreaker, etc. etc.
                  1. Clegg
                    Clegg 18 March 2014 15: 49
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                    Quote: Lantau
                    It’s just that I am convinced that it was only thanks to the Soviet Government that my country possessed atomic weapons and was the first to send a man into space and the first to build an atomic icebreaker, etc. etc.

                    So I mean for us. Advice is bad; reincarnation of the union is bad. For you (Russia), this is a plus.
                    1. Lantau
                      Lantau 18 March 2014 15: 53
                      +14
                      So I mean for us. Advice is bad; reincarnation of the union is bad. For you (Russia), this is a plus.

                      I am very sorry for you, young man.
                      1. Clegg
                        Clegg 18 March 2014 15: 54
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                        Quote: Lantau
                        I am very sorry for you, young man.

                        Thanks for the sympathy, I don’t need this.
                      2. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 18 March 2014 16: 04
                        +29
                        Quote: Clegg
                        Thanks for the sympathy, I don’t need this.

                        You will not be offended with sympathy, here you need a doctor!
                      3. Lantau
                        Lantau 18 March 2014 16: 08
                        +6
                        You will not be offended with sympathy, here you need a doctor!

                        Do you think you need a nurse?
                      4. Kazakh
                        Kazakh 18 March 2014 16: 13
                        +16
                        Do you think you need a nurse?
                        veterinarian euthanize laughing laughing
                      5. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 18 March 2014 16: 15
                        +14
                        Quote: Lantau
                        Do you think you need a nurse?

                        No, the psychiatrist will not help here, judging by the comments, the brains (if they certainly exist) are in a completely different place. Call the proctologist, this is the case in its part.
                      6. Free Island
                        Free Island 18 March 2014 17: 16
                        +7
                        trolls are preparing the ground for playing off Kazakhstan with Russia))))) it was just a few years BEFORE the events in Ukraine ... or maybe a person really managed to brainwash and brainwash the fashionable among the "bulk-basement-makarevichy-yatsenyukhovy" they say RUSSIA OCCUPANT TORCHED FROM UKRAINE Native Crimea and NOW IT'S TURN FOR KAZAKHSTAN!)))
                    2. Ptah
                      Ptah 18 March 2014 16: 23
                      +1
                      There are many doctors, and each strives to joke in his own way ...
                      Which one? Maybe for a start, invite a proctologist, a colleague, because it is obvious that the painful anal itching has "cons".

                      Or maybe "Clegg" went too far with laughter therapy ....
                    3. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 18 March 2014 16: 26
                      +4
                      Quote: Ptah
                      For starters, I can invite a proctologist,

                      Vadim, they called the right doctor, the post above ...
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      .Call the proctologist-this cases in its part.

                      laughing hi hi
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              2. pensioner
                pensioner 18 March 2014 17: 21
                0
                Quote: Clegg
                Quote:
                I am very sorry for you, young man.

                Thanks for the sympathy, I don’t need this.

                Yes, you do not understand. This proctologist with sadistic inclinations turned to you ...
          2. igvladfil
            igvladfil 18 March 2014 16: 34
            +4
            You don’t need to mow down under the Kazakhs. You are judging by the rhetoric of the banderlog.
          3. CTEPX
            CTEPX 18 March 2014 16: 42
            +2
            Quote: Clegg
            So I mean for us. Advice is bad; reincarnation of the union is bad. For you (Russia), this is a plus.

            Why didn’t you introduce yourself immediately, Comrade Anglo-Saxon!))
          4. vovan1949
            vovan1949 18 March 2014 18: 20
            +2
            Take any period of 20 years under the Soviet regime and under the regime of Nazarbayev, and compare. Then they built and built, now we plunder the country, what remains of the USSR
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        2. f.lourens
          f.lourens 18 March 2014 15: 59
          +3
          Ignore the man believed the fifth column .. you plus hi
        3. Executer
          Executer 18 March 2014 16: 53
          +6
          Quote: Lantau
          and first sent a man into space

          And at the same time, from the Kazakh land, if that ...
          And in the USSR!
          If you, my friend Clegg, it's fuck ... - then you have big problems.
      2. shatu
        shatu 18 March 2014 15: 46
        +10
        Quote: Clegg
        History hates the words "If"

        But it’s too early to put a point, your rotten states are already beginning to crack at the seams. All their well-being is based on the oppression (in the literal sense of the word) of most of humanity. Big hypocrites and bastards can not be found in the famous history of mankind!
        1. Clegg
          Clegg 18 March 2014 15: 51
          .
          Quote: shatu
          But it’s too early to put a point,

          Of course, Fukuyama was mistaken when he wrote about the end of the story.

          Great events await us, in fact we can become witnesses of the New World Order.

          Wait and see!
          1. 0255
            0255 18 March 2014 16: 59
            +1
            Quote: Clegg
            Great events await us, in fact we can become witnesses of the New World Order.

            Such?



            AS POSSIBLE TO BE SUCHNEW WORLD ORDER ??? !!! belay belay belay fool
            1. Stepnyak
              Stepnyak 18 March 2014 17: 11
              +7
              just he (clegg) apparently oralman. in difficult days for the whole people his ancestors fled
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    2. Partizan
      Partizan 18 March 2014 15: 54
      +1
      This is not "if", but "by the way" - which means "by the word", and you should finish your studies in Russian at school.
      1. Clegg
        Clegg 18 March 2014 15: 55
        -9
        Quote: Partizan
        This is not "if", but "by the way" - which means "by the word", and you should finish your studies in Russian at school.

        I am writing as I can, Russian is not my native language.
        1. shatu
          shatu 18 March 2014 16: 21
          +7
          Here, in vain, a friend is minus.
          We should be glad that over the past 25 years there are still people not in our country who speak Russian. And Clegg is from Kazakhstan, and even though they speak Russian there, but still the language is not state.
          I am in English, like a ram on English-speaking sites, and nothing, people treat me normally, so sometimes, maybe they will laugh at my construction of assumptions not evil :)
          Unfortunately, this is not very good for us. This is one of the few "tolerant" things from the West that I would like to see from our people!
          1. Clegg
            Clegg 18 March 2014 17: 10
            -1
            Quote: shatu
            I am in English, like a ram on English-speaking sites, and nothing, people treat me normally, so sometimes, maybe they will laugh at my construction of assumptions not evil :)

            I agree that English speakers support you have come across more than once.
        2. Barsik
          Barsik 18 March 2014 16: 33
          0
          I am writing as I can, Russian is not my native language.

          and what is your native? you're not a Kazakh am monkey trip under the mattress
          1. Clegg
            Clegg 18 March 2014 17: 10
            +1
            Quote: Barsik
            I am writing as I can, Russian is not my native language.

            and what is your native? you're not a Kazakh am monkey trip under the mattress

            Native language - Kazakh
    3. Averias
      Averias 18 March 2014 16: 20
      +3
      Quote: Clegg
      History hates the words "If"

      Come on. But what about this:
      1. If Alexander Mekendonsky (aka Alexander Magnus, aka Iskander Zulkarnayn) at the insistence of soldiers, tired of a long campaign, would not back down when he decided to conquer India ....
      2. If Peter the First, with his harsh (but why hide, cruel methods) did not "cut a window to Europe" ...
      3. From the present. If only, during the time of perestroika, putsch and other manifestations of "freedom and democracy." The people thought sensibly, it would not have turned out what we have now ...
      These are not my words, these are words from historical publications. Past and modern.
      So how? Your move, mmmmmm ...... (I don’t know what to call you).
    4. dmitrich
      dmitrich 18 March 2014 16: 32
      0
      Quote: Clegg
      History hates the words "If"

      and where you read "if".
    5. Executer
      Executer 18 March 2014 16: 52
      0
      And here he is not ...
    6. Victor1
      Victor1 18 March 2014 17: 08
      +6
      If it weren’t for the Russians, the Kazakhs would have been exterminated as a people, it was your ancestors who asked you to join the Russian Empire and swore allegiance. Got protection and the future. And now people like you, Russophobia, only dishonor your people.
  2. evserko
    evserko 18 March 2014 15: 40
    +2
    And they are going to this level.
  3. Saratoga833
    Saratoga833 18 March 2014 18: 02
    0
    Yes, they are now not far from feudalism.
  4. aksakal
    aksakal 18 March 2014 19: 15
    +5
    Quote: Lantau

    Learn the story !!! By the way, without Soviet power, Kazakhstan would have remained at the level of modern Afghanistan. And you would run the whistle to buy the heel scratching !!!

    - I don’t know, I don’t understand what I’m talking about, there’s a lot of things removed, what are you discussing about Kazakhstan and Kazakhs? Just know - you will not like something, it will not seem a little. I don't like that. And now I see this post. Listen to me carefully !: I don’t know why they have crammed you with pluses. Perhaps the Kazakhs remained at the level of Afghanistan, perhaps, but still they would have remained people and then they were people. For proof, go here and read the memoirs of Gertrude Platais. (http: //ykap.rf/? p = 812) - "Kurt is a precious stone. In Kazakhstan, one hundred nationalities, a lot of people were simply deported here. For example, Koreans. And Chechens. During the deportation, the authorities did not soar - they brought them naked The steppes were planted. No clothes, no food, where to go? It's also cold. Local steppe dwellers appeared here with flat cakes, kurt and others. And all these representatives of these diasporas feel grateful to the Kazakhs. And only the Russian diaspora is trying to do something. present am Requires gratitude for what mythical "transformation into people". Allegedly "we taught you to keep the forks here, where is the gratitude"? Another question - knowing how to own a fork, do you remain human? Even listening to Beethoven, you can be a non-human! Can you give examples from Nazi Germany? Or take a word? Or, being able to graze a little animal in the steppe, still be a HUMAN?
    Here are just the Russians here presenting - and territorial claims, and even a bunch of all sorts, and gratitude is not clear for what!
    That would be no illusions! - the fact that Kazakhstan was sympathetic to the annexation of Crimea does not mean at all that the Kazakhs will react with the same understanding to a similar act in relation to Kazakhstani territories. And if I, a Kazakh, am friendly to Russians and Russia, and you see this from my posts, then with plans that I could not read, but I guess (somewhere deleted, somewhere on the black list) everything can change a lot . And I do not think that it is in the interests of the Russians - because of the territories to multiply their enemies. The matter is compounded by the fact, and this is noted on most Kazakhstan sites that Russia has more than enough territories, and completely undeveloped! Well, with Crimea, it’s clear that this is really a holy land for the Russians, but discussing some anti-Kazakh territorial plans in the absence of holy lands and completely undeveloped Siberia and the Far East, at the risk of completely losing the last faithful allies is immediately better to the doctor, this is to land kleptomania seems to be.
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 18 March 2014 19: 25
      +7
      And I realized that a certain memorable Clegg jumped out, that's why there was all the fuss, so he provoked it. And everyone was seduced - and the Russians are comrades here, and I SHOULD laughing Damn, a vivid example, that one provocateur is enough to make a wry conversation. In short, a rotten topic - do not pay attention to the provocateurs, it is not worth it
      1. Ptah
        Ptah 18 March 2014 20: 28
        +1
        Quote: aksakal
        And I realized that a certain memorable Clegg jumped out, that's why there was all the fuss, so he provoked it.

        And I will notice that he provoked it competently, or he was simply delightfully drunk that he suffered such a blizzard - "The scoop sucks, the cosmodrome is not needed - nothing is needed ... and the rest like that"
        The classic case of trolling. Just a textbook.
        Quote: aksakal
        And everyone seduced

        At first they did not notice or did not pay attention, because "Clegg" is not the first day on the site, and then (after 5-6 posts) the responses "flew" with the corresponding "nursery rhymes" and rudeness. Someone was gaining "plus signs", who tried to practice wit or intelligence, trying to "cure a sick person", and "Clegg" got his way - he caught a banhamer as a lobster. Well, he trolled well ...
    2. Lantau
      Lantau 19 March 2014 01: 58
      +1
      - I do not know, I do not understand what I mean

      Dear Aksakal, I read your angry tirade. You would first understand what the question is and only then pour out your righteous anger here !!!
  • Kuvabatake
    Kuvabatake 18 March 2014 15: 42
    +12
    Which ones? Northern Kazakhstan - the lands of the Volga Cossacks ... This is so in short. If you judge the history of Kazakhstan by the film "Nomad", then there are no questions ... wassat
    1. Clegg
      Clegg 18 March 2014 15: 51
      .
      Quote: Kuvabatake
      Which ones? Northern Kazakhstan - the lands of the Volga Cossacks ...

      Do you want to pick up?
      1. Lantau
        Lantau 18 March 2014 15: 56
        +17
        Do you want to pick up?

        Who about what, and lousy about the bath.
      2. Kuvabatake
        Kuvabatake 18 March 2014 15: 57
        +3
        No. I am writing to you about alleged losses. I just have enough. And there wouldn’t be enough jo. Sing I wouldn’t go to trade ...
        1. Clegg
          Clegg 18 March 2014 16: 00
          .
          Quote: Kuvabatake
          No. I am writing to you about alleged losses. I just have enough. And there wouldn’t be enough jo. Sing I wouldn’t go to trade ...

          Look at the demographic data for 1897, in all settlements except Omsk, Russians did not make up the majority.
          1. JIaIIoTb
            JIaIIoTb 18 March 2014 16: 24
            +16
            Crimea is now part of Russia thanks to people like you in Ukraine.
            You will continue to operate, Kazakhstan will suffer. It will not suffer because of Russia, but directly from you and your supporters.
            Not the good and prosperity you want for your country but the very same thing that is happening right now in Ukraine.
            And I think Nazarbayev is a smart person and leader, and people like you will bury in the sands before you destroy Kazakhstan.
            PS Kazakhstan is not a stranger to me. I graduated from high school. Sary-Ozek, Taldy-Kurgan region.
          2. Quantum
            Quantum 18 March 2014 16: 30
            0
            Kyzyl-Kaisatsky horde under Catherine, inhabited
            to the south.
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          4. oldstaryi
            oldstaryi 18 March 2014 16: 38
            0
            where is the data from? laughing
            1. Turkir
              Turkir 18 March 2014 16: 54
              0
              From Catherine.
          5. dik-fort
            dik-fort 18 March 2014 17: 09
            +2
            It doesn’t matter, the lands were part of the Russian Empire, yes, the Russians colonized a lot of lands, and of this, we had and have a multinational people, many were saved from genocide, for example, the same Armenians and Georgians. The Anglo-Saxons would come, would drive in a reservation as Indians in the USA.
    2. f.lourens
      f.lourens 18 March 2014 16: 01
      +4
      East Kazakhstan belonged to the Tomsk province hi
    3. nnnnnn
      nnnnnn 18 March 2014 16: 23
      -9
      Quote: Kuvabatake
      Which ones? Northern Kazakhstan - the lands of the Volga Cossacks ... This is so in short. If you judge the history of Kazakhstan by the film "Nomad", then there are no questions ... wassat
      another "historian" recourse
    4. Refugee from Kazakhstan
      Refugee from Kazakhstan 18 March 2014 20: 07
      -2
      Guys, if the rhetoric goes for Sev. Kazakhstan, then the friendship will end and near Omsk and Orenburg you will receive a NATO missile defense base a bunch of tomahawks around the perimeter and a couple of strategic airfields, so do not look for adventure in your illustrious ass!
      1. Ptah
        Ptah 18 March 2014 20: 35
        0
        Quote: RK refugee
        Guys, if the rhetoric goes for Sev. Kazakhstan then friendship will end there

        Greetings, Brother!
        Do not pay, pl. attention. Here "Aksakal" understood everything correctly (see above).
        Nothing hostile towards peoples to each other, and between states.
        It was just that one pip (with a Kazakh "flag") became obsessed and brought / amused the respectable local audience in a quality manner.

        Not the first and not the last time. Do not be sick, brother! drinks
  • f.lourens
    f.lourens 18 March 2014 15: 56
    +1
    Tell me if it is not a secret of WHICH territories ... and do not forget about the Eastern and Northern Kazakhstan whose territories they used to be ???
  • Max_Bauder
    Max_Bauder 18 March 2014 16: 23
    -6
    Quote: Clegg
    Under our advice, many territories were lost.


    watch the movie prosperity on youtube.
    1. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 19 March 2014 12: 33
      0
      Quote: Max_Bauder

      Max_Bauder
      (1)

      Yesterday, 16: 23

      ↑ ↓


      Quote: CleggWith our advice, we lost many territories. Watch the movie prosperity on YouTube.


      Guys before minus, look, too, there is about US world imperialism. And I recommend the dude to understand who the United States is. smile
  • oldstaryi
    oldstaryi 18 March 2014 16: 33
    0
    it is interesting what? wassat
  • Executer
    Executer 18 March 2014 16: 50
    0
    Did you have them, "friend of the steppes"?
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  • Turkir
    Turkir 18 March 2014 16: 52
    0
    Our? Who is this?
  • not good
    not good 18 March 2014 17: 28
    +1
    This is unlikely, but after the advice, many lost their brains and in general ... captain, you will never be a major ...
  • Aleksandr68
    Aleksandr68 18 March 2014 17: 38
    0
    for example? list
  • hz123
    hz123 18 March 2014 15: 27
    +1
    enlighten why?
    1. Clegg
      Clegg 18 March 2014 15: 36
      .
      Quote: hz123
      enlighten why?

      We are waiting for economic growth, as shown by the examples of Japan, Germany, South Korea, Turkey, etc.
      1. Imperial
        Imperial 18 March 2014 15: 46
        +19
        We are waiting for economic growth, as shown by the examples of Japan, Germany, South Korea, Turkey, etc.
        It is necessary to have a bite.
        1. tanit
          tanit 18 March 2014 16: 31
          +5
          No, a person sincerely believes. Alcohol has nothing to do with it, alas.
      2. hz123
        hz123 18 March 2014 15: 46
        +5
        Is it Libya with Iraq? The countries listed by you were pumped in because of the presence of the USSR, and the Germans with samurai were not hileks before WWII.
      3. Kazakh
        Kazakh 18 March 2014 15: 47
        +12
        We are waiting for economic growth, as shown by the examples of Japan, Germany, South Korea, Turkey, etc.
        where is he waiting for you? Economic growth cannot wait for him
        1. Clegg
          Clegg 18 March 2014 15: 53
          .
          Quote: Kazakh
          Economic growth cannot wait for him

          yes, but with the Americans it will be more efficient to chase after him
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 18 March 2014 16: 37
            +7
            Quote: Clegg
            yes, but with the Americans it will be more efficient to chase after him

            Ukraine has already played catch-up ...
            1. Clegg
              Clegg 18 March 2014 17: 26
              -1
              Quote: Tersky
              Ukraine has already played catch-up ..

              is
              I wish all the best to the Ukrainian people.
          2. Stepnyak
            Stepnyak 18 March 2014 17: 14
            +4
            us with pi .. are not on the way .......
      4. Lk17619
        Lk17619 18 March 2014 15: 53
        +5
        Quote: Clegg
        We are waiting for economic growth, as shown by the examples of Japan, Germany, South Korea, Turkey, etc.


        That urzhal ....... Read something long ago learned ???? The alphabet with the scoops then came to you. The economic growth..... fool What are you going to eat in Gaster in Russia?
      5. Kuvabatake
        Kuvabatake 18 March 2014 15: 53
        +6
        I talked with friends from Kazakhstan, something they don’t have such bright hopes under the protectorate of pen.dos.tana ...
        1. Clegg
          Clegg 18 March 2014 17: 11
          -1
          Quote: Kuvabatake
          I talked with friends from Kazakhstan, something they don’t have such bright hopes under the protectorate of pen.dos.tana ...

          We have pluralism
      6. Ptah
        Ptah 18 March 2014 15: 56
        +6
        Quote: Clegg
        We are waiting for economic growth, as shown by the examples of Japan, Germany, South Korea, Turkey, etc.

        Of course, of course ... Everything will be so ...
        Please calm down and go to your room. The doctor will approach you now.
        In the meantime, imagine that your Baikonur will soon be free. You will launch into space with whole yurts and master interstellar space.

        Give Kazakhstan to Alpha Centauri !!!
        1. Clegg
          Clegg 18 March 2014 15: 59
          -8
          Quote: Ptah
          In the meantime, imagine that your Baikonur will soon be free. You will launch into space with whole yurts and master interstellar space.

          Give Kazakhstan to Alpha Centauri.


          It is necessary to close the spaceport, more harm than good.
          A country with 17 million people should not invest in the development of space, the money is not superfluous. We need to invest more in education, medicine and social services. the infrastructure.

          Even if large countries like Russia, the USA and China compete with each other in space, we do not need this.
          1. Partizan
            Partizan 18 March 2014 16: 06
            +4
            Of course, for you and further, as before, sheep and horses to graze - this is your original truth.
          2. Ptah
            Ptah 18 March 2014 16: 17
            +8
            Quote: Clegg
            It’s necessary to close the spaceport,

            And I'm talking about the same ... We need to close it if no one can plant the whole complex. Well, perhaps the "nationalized" color. remains - you can make a lot of necklaces and brooches.
            Yes, and it was built with a "scoop" - therefore, definitely CLOSE. And at the same time to close all the mines. They were also taken into development at the scoop. Why are they to proud Kazakhs who enjoy the sun, koumiss, and reed syrnai ...
            Then close the other factories open at the scoop. Kazakhs do not need industry - they get a mantle for yurts from sheep and camels ...
            End up closing all schools and hospitals using the scoop experience.

            And here it is - a happy future. Independent Kazakhstan has already overtaken and surpasses the listed "Japan, Germany, South Korea, Turkey, etc." ...
            ... Level of the XVII century ...
          3. Averias
            Averias 18 March 2014 16: 26
            +3
            Quote: Clegg
            It is necessary to close the spaceport, more harm than good.
            A country with 17 million people should not invest in the development of space, the money is not superfluous. We need to invest more in education, medicine and social services. the infrastructure.

            Even if large countries like Russia, the USA and China compete with each other in space, we do not need this.

            Well, by God. I'm wallowing from this individual. Vaughn, they don't need to invest in space. Dear, is it you that invested? Well, tell us, "poor", how much did you personally give to space?
            And the fact that we don’t pay for your Baikonur grandma is frail, is that on the side?
            Ahhh, of course, this is money that you don’t get, pass by.
            Then die of ambition (with a sweetheart), and take care of your self-esteem (or rather, raising it, just not in this way).
            1. Clegg
              Clegg 18 March 2014 17: 12
              -1
              Quote: Averias
              Vaughn, they don't need to invest in space. Dear, is it you that invested? Well, tell us, "poor", how much did you personally give to space?

              I mean the state, I mean it is necessary to dissolve Kazkosmos.
          4. tanit
            tanit 18 March 2014 16: 34
            +3
            So the Cosmodrome is not yours. Although, there was such hysteria in the Kazakh media when Russia began to build Vostochny ... hi
            1. Turkir
              Turkir 18 March 2014 17: 00
              0
              Whose spaceport?
              Express your thoughts more clearly, please.
              I realized that your personal spaceport. On which, your technical staff is not there, you did not build it, you receive money for it, you do not have astronauts, you do not have rockets.
              But he is yours. Did I understand you correctly?
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            3. Clegg
              Clegg 18 March 2014 17: 13
              -1
              Quote: tanit
              So the Cosmodrome is not yours. Although, there was such hysteria in the Kazakh media when Russia began to build Vostochny ... hi

              Our spaceport and you rent it.
              I say we have pluralism, Good luck on the "East"
          5. Executer
            Executer 18 March 2014 17: 04
            +2
            Clegg, i.e. do you really think that "... we don't need this"? Just don't tell Nazarbayev about this. And then suddenly he will charge you with the obligation to pay rent for Baikonur ($ 115 million). Will you pull?
            1. Clegg
              Clegg 18 March 2014 17: 28
              -1
              Quote: Executer
              Clegg, i.e. do you really think that "... we don't need this"? Just don't tell Nazarbayev about this. And then suddenly he will charge you with the obligation to pay rent for Baikonur ($ 115 million). Will you pull?

              If I’m not mistaken, Russia doesn’t give cash,
        2. Ivan Russky
          Ivan Russky 18 March 2014 16: 19
          +11
          Baikanur will soon be free. We are building the Vostochny Cosmodrome in the Amur Region. A grandiose construction site. I myself take part in it, build (build) a launch pad for the ILV UNION. In general, there will be five launch sites for different types of missiles. SO KAZAKHSTAN IS WAITING FOR AN UNEXPECTED ECONOMIC RO ... DECLINE. God forgive me for such words.
        3. AVIATOR36662
          AVIATOR36662 18 March 2014 16: 45
          +3
          He is not a Kazakh, but a simple Bandera. The flag chose for his weight, and just a corrupt Ukrainian, just wants to lie under the West.
      7. Irishman
        Irishman 18 March 2014 15: 57
        +1
        This is a chronicle ...
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      10. Partizan
        Partizan 18 March 2014 15: 57
        0
        Waiting, waiting, and not waiting, will leave ... lol
      11. tanit
        tanit 18 March 2014 16: 30
        +3
        Oh, how ... Well, I really don't want creative humanitarians in Kazakhstan. Where did the techies come from? At least with a secondary special? The economic growth of "Japan, West Germany, South Korea, Turkey, etc." was determined not by historians of Turkic greatness and not by lawyers with sales managers. hi
      12. bubla5
        bubla5 18 March 2014 16: 43
        0
        Well, and grow who is stopping you
      13. 0255
        0255 18 March 2014 16: 44
        +1
        Quote: Clegg
        Quote: hz123
        enlighten why?

        We are waiting for economic growth, as shown by the examples of Japan, Germany, South Korea, Turkey, etc.

        are not you afraid of "economic growth" as in Ukraine now? fool
        1. vovan1949
          vovan1949 18 March 2014 18: 55
          0
          We are waiting for economic growth, as shown by the examples of Japan, Germany, South Korea, Turkey, etc.

          Clegg, I don’t see you, but I know that from a filling in a tooth to an elastic band in panties, from forks and toothpaste to chairs and blankets - all this is not made in Kazakhstan. We only trade in oil and raw materials, by the way, non-renewable energy sources. We have been "fighting corruption" for more than 20 years, and it is flourishing. For a quarter of a century, the "life-long guarantor of the constitution" has been fooling us about prosperity, while he himself thinks how to save billions of dollars "earned by the overwork" of his family.
        2. vovan1949
          vovan1949 18 March 2014 18: 55
          0
          We are waiting for economic growth, as shown by the examples of Japan, Germany, South Korea, Turkey, etc.

          Clegg, I don’t see you, but I know that from a filling in a tooth to an elastic band in panties, from forks and toothpaste to chairs and blankets - all this is not made in Kazakhstan. We only trade in oil and raw materials, by the way, non-renewable energy sources. We have been "fighting corruption" for more than 20 years, and it is flourishing. For a quarter of a century, the "life-long guarantor of the constitution" has been fooling us about prosperity, while he himself thinks how to save billions of dollars "earned by the overwork" of his family.
      14. CTEPX
        CTEPX 18 March 2014 16: 52
        +1
        Quote: Clegg
        We are waiting for economic growth, as shown by the examples of Japan, Germany, South Korea, Turkey, etc.

        Alas, the printing press has sharply lost in efficiency)). The financial pyramid is close to disclosure. For the dollar, it is very likely that they will soon give in the face!
        Another thing is that the article that we are discussing is true and relevant, including for Russia)). We just have a national Leader, and they have almost no time, so we have a chance not only to survive, but also to win)).
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 18 March 2014 15: 43
    +7
    Quote: Clegg
    quite

    Well, go to the EU!
    1. Clegg
      Clegg 18 March 2014 15: 46
      .
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Well, go to the EU!

      EU is X .... sy
      I wrote about the USA, learn to read
      1. Partizan
        Partizan 18 March 2014 16: 02
        +1
        Yeah, you need some money, and good riddance, there the slaves are still very needed!
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 18 March 2014 16: 05
        +5
        Quote: Clegg
        I wrote about the USA, learn to read

        Well, go to the USA, why are you still sitting here on Russian website. Do you think American, you are all there.
        1. Clegg
          Clegg 18 March 2014 17: 15
          -3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Dui in American, there are all yours.

          Well, so you have the authority to be banned, if you do not tolerate a different look
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 18 March 2014 17: 17
            +1
            Quote: Clegg
            Well, so you have the authority

            No.
            Quote: Clegg
            if you can not stand another look

            I stand my gaze, not very stupid.
            1. Clegg
              Clegg 18 March 2014 17: 29
              -1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              No

              it's a pity

              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              I stand my gaze, not very stupid.

              so blacklist and don’t read stupidity
  • platitsyn70
    platitsyn70 18 March 2014 16: 08
    +1
    quite
    such n ......... must be omitted, put in Guantanamo will sing differently
  • kirieeleyson
    kirieeleyson 18 March 2014 16: 26
    +23
    You ask the elders, from Chimkent to Astana, those who went through the war hand in hand with Russian Ivan, Georgian Vano, Ukrainian Mikola and other heroes who share your opinion in Kazakhstan. A young one, apparently, yet ... it’s too early for you to wear lieutenant colonel epaulets.
    1. Rusin Dima
      Rusin Dima 18 March 2014 16: 52
      +1
      Thousand pluses
    2. Ptah
      Ptah 18 March 2014 16: 54
      +3
      Photo, of course, staged, but so dear, familiar. From her breathes calmness for the future of children and their old age ...
      Not sales dreams ... Yeahhhhh, Ehhhhhh ....
      1. kirieeleyson
        kirieeleyson 18 March 2014 16: 58
        +1
        Everything is in our hands, Vadim. It doesn’t matter what this education will be called.
    3. cerko
      cerko 18 March 2014 17: 33
      0
      add no diminish
  • Leshka Chuvash
    Leshka Chuvash 18 March 2014 18: 14
    +1
    What about de pride? That's just humanly, male pride? Pride of the nation?
  • svetlomor
    svetlomor 18 March 2014 15: 27
    +14
    Better to be a colony of the USA than to live with a scoop.
    Better last but decisive battle.
  • a52333
    a52333 18 March 2014 15: 58
    +7
    Yes, he is a troll, do not pay and that's it.
  • neri73-r
    neri73-r 18 March 2014 16: 19
    +3
    Guys, you communicate with the troll, he quite successfully distracted you from the topic of the article !!! Do not pay attention to him, he’s pushing and dumping him from the site!
    1. 0255
      0255 18 March 2014 17: 12
      +1
      Quote: neri73-r
      Guys, you communicate with the troll, he quite successfully distracted you from the topic of the article !!! Do not pay attention to him, he’s pushing and dumping him from the site!

      Are you sure that he will dump the site? He will continue to write any ****** and enjoy the new minuses am
      1. Clegg
        Clegg 18 March 2014 17: 30
        -1
        Quote: 0255
        and enjoy the new cons

        why rejoice then?
        guys do you want me to leave?
  • Simon
    Simon 18 March 2014 17: 06
    0
    Apparently he wants to be a slave all his life.
  • Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 18 March 2014 17: 46
    +2
    Those who did not live in Soviet times cannot compare.
    So they quote liberal propaganda ...
  • kargrom
    kargrom 18 March 2014 18: 22
    +1
    I couldn’t even put a minus, I was just taken aback! I never reassured the rear-wheel drive that I live as I live. How my ancestors lived, how my children will be ... I checked, I wasn’t mistaken, military review. Well then, catch my fat minus!
  • afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 19 March 2014 06: 22
    0
    did not understand from the article where does Russia come from?
  • Field
    Field 18 March 2014 15: 32
    +8
    Good riddance, stubborn Natsik Russophobe
    1. Field
      Field 18 March 2014 15: 41
      +3
      Clegg, an amerotürkophilic Russophobe, does it hurt your eyes?
      What added to the emergency?
  • from punk
    from punk 18 March 2014 15: 35
    +19
    Quote: Clegg
    Better to be a colony of the USA than to live with a scoop.

    and I had a very very happy childhood in the scoop fellow
    1. Clegg
      Clegg 18 March 2014 15: 42
      .
      Quote: punk
      and I had a very very happy childhood in the scoop

      Happy for you
    2. f.lourens
      f.lourens 18 March 2014 16: 28
      +3
      And not only with you .. I remember with the scoop, my parents and I went to the sea every year to relax .. there was stability and people were not divided by nationality hi
      1. 0255
        0255 18 March 2014 17: 17
        +1
        Quote: f.lourens
        And not only with you .. I remember with the scoop, my parents and I went to the sea every year to relax .. there was stability and people were not divided by nationality hi

        I envy you as a person who did not make this time!
      2. yustas
        yustas 19 March 2014 11: 32
        0
        And every New Year we flew to Omsk, where relatives from all over the Union gathered, and we didn’t have the Oligarchs, the father is an engineer, a mother, a medical man, and nobody saved anything and on vacation we flew to Vladivostok and then to the Crimea. So the Union was much more loyal to people and took care of them.
  • Kazakh
    Kazakh 18 March 2014 15: 35
    +14
    Quote: Clegg
    Better to be a colony of the USA than to live with a scoop.
    And what’s better? Tell American Indians how good they are. You can ask to go and take a reservation. And I thought it was better to live in an independent country. And your ancestors fought for independence all the time?
    1. Clegg
      Clegg 18 March 2014 15: 42
      .
      Quote: Kazakh
      What's better?

      See comments above

      Quote: Kazakh
      And I thought it was better to live in an independent country.

      At the moment, Kazakhstan is a Kremlin-dependent country for a member of the CU.
      1. Kazakh
        Kazakh 18 March 2014 15: 45
        +3
        See comments above
        I reviewed everything 2 times, I didn’t understand, it might not make it difficult to explain to the unreasonable one more time
        1. CTEPX
          CTEPX 18 March 2014 16: 56
          +3
          Quote: Kazakh
          I reviewed everything 2 times, I didn’t understand, it might not make it difficult to explain to the unreasonable one more time

          He is a troll)). The task is to prevent discussion of the topic of the article)).
      2. f.lourens
        f.lourens 18 March 2014 16: 32
        +3
        And you remember your story ... with the amers, the fate of the city of Sygnak awaits you .. didn’t remember .. only this time you will be slaughtered by Afghan Mujahideen and those who are now fighting in Syria against the legitimate authorities .. do you want this ??? hi
      3. Turkir
        Turkir 18 March 2014 17: 20
        +1
        You want to say that President Nazarbayev is enslaved to the Kremlin? And, you guessed it, you are a new, Kazakhstani, Yatsenyuk.
        1. Clegg
          Clegg 18 March 2014 17: 33
          0
          Quote: Turkir
          You want to say that President Nazarbayev is enslaved to the Kremlin?

          why is nazarbayev? he just made our country dependent
          before joining the vehicle, he promised that we would supply tons of meat and alcohol to Russia, as a result, we import meat and the production of vodka fell by 30%
  • evserko
    evserko 18 March 2014 15: 39
    +5
    So go to your Star-Striped, slave!
  • TAMERLAN 7
    TAMERLAN 7 18 March 2014 15: 45
    +20
    Quote: Clegg
    Better to be a colony of the USA than to live with a scoop.

    This opinion was the reason for the collapse of the USSR. They themselves destroyed their homeland, I wanted to live in a colony. So what do we have? They took loans to buy a car and a TV, and for paying interest on apartments you have to pay! We eat a burger with GMOs and from morning to night we work for the boss to earn money for living. All just to devour and sleep, but they completely forgot about the spiritual. Everything is mercantile and petty. Previously, dreamed about the stars, the development of other planets, and now - lie down for two hours on the couch with beer and a hawk?
    1. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf 18 March 2014 15: 59
      +6
      In a recent interview with KM.RU, expert at the Russian Institute for Strategic Studies Azhdar Kurtov drew attention to the fact that “the Kazakh ethnocratic elite is pursuing a policy of cunning, sophisticated and somewhat insidious towards Russia. In words, this elite always declares that Russia is almost the main priority in the country's foreign policy, the same elite takes a lot of populist steps such as spending the year Russia in Kazakhstan, etc. But in reality, the Russian-speaking population is squeezed out of Kazakhstan". Also, do not forget that the Russian language in Kazakhstan has only official status, but has not received the rights of the second state. And this despite the fact that at the time of the collapse of the USSR, Russians and Kazakhs in the republic lived approximately equally.

      Read more: http://www.km.ru/news/kak_davyat_russkix_v_kazaxstane
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  • Vyacheslav73
    Vyacheslav73 18 March 2014 15: 47
    +4
    How old are you, boy? Did you overhear the word Scoop in adults? Go, young man, to teach lessons ...
  • Refugee from Kazakhstan
    Refugee from Kazakhstan 18 March 2014 15: 49
    +5
    Not so fast! Nobody talks about the scoop here. We must build our own independent state, raise the economy, make friends with our neighbors, and grow our children! And determined on such articles is not reasonable!
  • f.lourens
    f.lourens 18 March 2014 15: 53
    0
    Then you better go live in the usa
  • platitsyn70
    platitsyn70 18 March 2014 15: 57
    +2
    Better to be a colony of the USA than to live with a scoop
    herring or whatever you like (listing 3,4,5,6 floor mat in general you understand me) you sucked and will suck along with Europe and the United States.
  • kosmos84
    kosmos84 18 March 2014 16: 15
    +26
    YOU ARE NOT RIGHT MY DEAR FRIEND
  • Max_Bauder
    Max_Bauder 18 March 2014 16: 19
    +9
    Quote: Clegg
    Better to be a colony of the USA than to live with a scoop.


    Baurzhan Momyshuly would have shot you if he had heard.
  • NovelRZN
    NovelRZN 18 March 2014 16: 20
    +7
    Have you lived with the "scoop"? Are you now given absolutely free education, housing and medical care? Tell us where is this paradise !?
    I suspect the answer will be a proud "USA-ah-ah-ah"))) Yes, try to get seriously ill there without a huge insurance - move the horses faster than say "apchhi" and NOBODY will help you, it will be your personal problems. Remember the Obama-Cara treatment program in the United States. Ask the question "why do they need it." By the way, this program does not concern the colonies, "only for the inhabitants of the metropolis." The inhabitants of the "colonies" can only be a resource for organ donation, such as a pig farm on a national scale. Feel the difference.
    And in the USSR there was one of the best healthcare systems of its time !!!
    ANY state under ANY form of government ALWAYS has problematic issues - domestic or foreign policy, national issues, economics, etc. The USSR experienced a critical accumulation of these problems in a relatively short period of time and the state collapsed. Someone will say the sacramental "this is the fate of all empires", but it seems to me that this is just another round of the historical spiral. Much will return, but it will be a little different and hopefully much better than it was.
  • opinion
    opinion 18 March 2014 16: 20
    +6
    That's your opinion. Your opinion is not the opinion of all Kazakhs. And there will be no scoop, do not be afraid
  • RBLip
    RBLip 18 March 2014 16: 21
    +5
    Quote: Clegg
    Better to be a colony of the USA than to live with a scoop.

    you probably think that you are so
    1. RBLip
      RBLip 18 March 2014 16: 22
      +5
      but in fact you are like that
    2. Clegg
      Clegg 18 March 2014 17: 17
      -2
      Quote: RBLip
      you probably think that you are so

      no, I do not pretend to be the ultimate truth.
      over time, maybe my views will undergo adjustments, but right now I think so.
      1. Rblipetsk
        Rblipetsk 18 March 2014 18: 28
        +2
        Quote: Clegg
        but right now I think so.

        still understand why. try at least once to clearly explain your position. sometimes it seems like you're just trolling visitors. and by the way, in vain. here on the site very intelligent people are found. but we are all patriots of Russia. couch, inet, but patriots. therefore, they will persistently minus you.
  • VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 18 March 2014 16: 25
    0
    And who is holding?
  • oldstaryi
    oldstaryi 18 March 2014 16: 32
    0
    Well, live. Only we will take away our little earth!
  • 0255
    0255 18 March 2014 16: 38
    +2
    Quote: Clegg
    Better to be a colony of the USA than to live with a scoop.

    Iraqis, Libyans and Eastern Ukrainians do not agree with you stop

    Now even the Afghan Mujahideen are crying that there were schools and hospitals under the USSR, with which they fought with the US handouts. And today, NATO is stupidly bombing them indiscriminately, those killed are immediately recorded as terrorists, and drug exports have increased. am
    You are a normal person fool ?
  • W1950
    W1950 18 March 2014 16: 44
    0
    Ah, you old man, a slave from the cradle.
  • Turkir
    Turkir 18 March 2014 16: 48
    0
    Where do you live now? In Russia?
  • RUSS
    RUSS 18 March 2014 16: 52
    +2
    Quote: Clegg
    Better to be a colony of the USA than to live with a scoop.



    Hi Clegg, and what is the third is not given?
    1. Clegg
      Clegg 18 March 2014 17: 20
      -2
      Quote: RUSS
      Hi Clegg, and what is the third is not given?

      Hello,
      as the example of the Crimean Tatars to the Turks shows violet on them.
      then pan-Turkism is not an option
  • Rusin Dima
    Rusin Dima 18 March 2014 16: 55
    +1
    Radish you minus you a thousand
  • Alekst
    Alekst 18 March 2014 16: 59
    +6
    Why don't you move to the United States, breathe the air with full breasts ... I don't know which one, you know better, and you would not live in a "closed colony", but in the metropolis itself, trample on the former "scoops" and would not see everything what they created!
    1. Clegg
      Clegg 18 March 2014 17: 21
      -1
      Quote: Alekst
      Why don't you move to the USA

      I want to live here, where I was born.
  • Capacitor
    Capacitor 18 March 2014 17: 06
    0
    one word - Shame, and the second to you
  • Ossetian.
    Ossetian. 18 March 2014 17: 10
    +1
    Better to be a colony of the USA than to live with a scoop.


    In your case, it’s better to be a jerk so you don’t get around your neck ...
    And you will envy Russia all your life-this will be the meaning of your geopolitical life.
  • kirqiz ssr
    kirqiz ssr 18 March 2014 17: 16
    +2
    you did not live with the union of the USSR is a force.
  • pensioner
    pensioner 18 March 2014 17: 18
    +2
    Comrades Moderators! Please remove the product of the bowel movement from the site!
  • Andrey_Irkutsk
    Andrey_Irkutsk 18 March 2014 17: 38
    +2
    Is someone bothering you? Suitcase-Station-Europe
  • Nitarius
    Nitarius 18 March 2014 18: 49
    0
    TO THE WALLS YOU DEAR, WILL DELIVER AND A BULLET IN YOUR forehead! GAD
  • dzau
    dzau 18 March 2014 19: 37
    0
    Better to be a colony of the USA than to live with a scoop.

    The US colony will not work. States are far away. And China is nearby. And yes, if Russia does not care about Kazakhstan’s support, it will have to be a Chinese colony. More precisely, a province: China has never had colonies.

    The Han Chinese are by no means Russian. They will not begin to rebuild production, kindergartens and hospitals before the program for settling your Han territory begins to work in full force. Several tens of millions of Kazakhs against the backdrop of a billion newfound compatriots will dissolve in four to five generations. Alas, neither native language nor culture shines.

    In general, the message about Russia's help is incorrect. Russia does not need to support a stranger’s people, which during their weakness showed a true face: they cut and expelled Russians. The government can only worry about the problem of the northern regions.

    The rest will be handed over to China. And, to be honest, I see no alternative. Everything that Kazakhstan was holding on earlier was a magnet for the huge Republic of Ingushetia, then the USSR. Outside of integration with the Russian Federation, the country today can produce only 10% of the industrial nomenclature. goods. Without the power and political support of the Russian Federation, no one will be especially fiddling with the "independence" of Kazakhstan. Too large territory, too few people, the presence of uranium and other resources, there are no missiles with nuclear warheads on duty.

    Therefore, your (as well as Uzbek, Azerbaijani, etc.) position about the "scoop", into which they are allegedly being pulled by force, is a little inappropriate. Soviet fairy tales with republics and equal citizens are long over. Get used to the everyday life that your region has never had before in the modern era.

    Everyday life is assimilation (described above) or "controlled chaos" - a forced stop in development, with the suppression of social and statehood (what states and Europeans did with Latin America, do with Africans and Arabs, hello sunny Zimbabwe and the Gaza Strip). One, however, does not exclude the other: from the second they can smoothly go to the first.

    I deliberately do not consider the option when Kazakhs, like Georgians in the 18th century, will send a diplomatic mission with a request to join the Russian Federation. Because you have to be realistic. Georgian kingdom (easier to say - nation) in the 18th century. was put by the Turks on the brink of "to be - not to be". The people were systematically destroyed, it perfectly rules the brains. You, as mentioned above, have not sipped anything like that yet. There is no time to grow wiser: in the 21st century. processes are faster and methods are more efficient.

    Such matters, dear patriot of the oppressed Soviet scoop.
    1. Refugee from Kazakhstan
      Refugee from Kazakhstan 18 March 2014 20: 12
      +1
      And you Chukchi!
  • RBLip
    RBLip 18 March 2014 15: 20
    +11
    But where is the rationale for the name that Russia is a colony of the United States? in an article like we are talking about Ukraine temporarily occupied by fascists, is it?
    1. 0255
      0255 18 March 2014 16: 42
      +3
      Quote: RBLip
      But where is the rationale for the name that Russia is a colony of the United States? in an article like we are talking about Ukraine temporarily occupied by fascists, is it?

      but the states want to make Russia and, in general, the whole world their colony. The name is correct, unfortunately sad
      1. Rblipetsk
        Rblipetsk 18 March 2014 18: 30
        +1
        Quote: 0255
        but the states want to make their colony both Russia and the whole world

        wanting does not mean being able to. Russia has never been under anyone and never will be.
  • ybrcfy27
    ybrcfy27 18 March 2014 15: 25
    +7
    Russia de facto in the 90s, if not even a colony, then an obedient dog
    1. f.lourens
      f.lourens 18 March 2014 16: 35
      +5
      It was in the 90s under the ever-drunken president .. now a completely different situation hi
  • Roman Skomorokhov
    Roman Skomorokhov 18 March 2014 15: 27
    +2
    The article is a minus. There is a clear distortion of facts and outright speculation. The only plus is that it is directed against those with whom we do not drink. But right, sometimes it's better to chew than talk.
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  • sazhka4
    sazhka4 18 March 2014 15: 30
    +1
    What stupidity ... Without comment ..
  • Imperial
    Imperial 18 March 2014 15: 31
    +4
    Watching the performance of the Darkest. And I represent the faces of all sorts of Yatsenyuk and to. after all, they probably watch how they are being contaminated now, and this cannot but rejoice.
    1. polly
      polly 18 March 2014 15: 34
      +11
      Everyone is indignant !!!
    2. sazhka4
      sazhka4 18 March 2014 15: 39
      0
      Quote: Imperial
      Watching the performance of the Darkest. And I represent the faces of all sorts of Yatsenyuk and to. after all, they probably watch how they are being contaminated now, and this cannot but rejoice.
      It is written like this. Nobody canceled the letter "E". Zhirinovsky asks to cancel the letter "s"
      The fact is that in the Russian Language there were 84 letters








      Zhirinovs
      1. Imperial
        Imperial 18 March 2014 15: 44
        +1
        It is written like this. Nobody canceled the letter "E" ..
        Far reach her, and still the night is dark.
      2. Was mammoth
        Was mammoth 18 March 2014 16: 44
        +2
        Quote: sazhka4
        .Zhirinovsky asks to cancel the letter "s"

        ZHYRYNOVSKY. wink
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      4. Turkir
        Turkir 18 March 2014 17: 31
        0
        When was 84 letters?
        Please announce the entire list. fellow

        "War and Peace" is the correct title of the novel. Through i-short, and this is i-long. What is the difference? WORLD - absence of war, Peace - society. Do you know the expression: "Let's go with the whole world", magistrate?
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  • Idunavs
    Idunavs 18 March 2014 15: 35
    +2
    The article is no longer relevant, it is outdated by at least 15 years.
  • Grenz
    Grenz 18 March 2014 15: 36
    +4
    Quote: Clegg
    Better to be a colony of the USA than to live with a scoop.

    Well, of course, if there is still a penchant for "blue tolerance", then the very place in the colony.
    Now I'm listening to Putin’s speech, and how the SOVIET MAN (not the scoop) is ready to sign his every word. Because his position is WE ARE NOT A COLONY, we are a country that will be respected.
    Well, you can also create your own colony - in Siberia.
    1. Clegg
      Clegg 18 March 2014 15: 45
      -4
      Quote: grenz
      Well, of course, if there is still a penchant for "blue tolerance", then the very place in the colony.

      Who about what laughing
    2. ybrcfy27
      ybrcfy27 18 March 2014 16: 44
      +2
      We are a country that is respected and afraid, but will not respect
  • erased
    erased 18 March 2014 15: 37
    +2
    This is all interesting. But there is other news. France is ready to declare war on Russia!
    Link to the document - http://warfiles.ru/show-50469-franciya-ne-isklyuchaet-primeneniya-sily-v-otnoshe
    nii-rossii.html
    But this is not a joke! This is war! And if the Russian government is silent, it will be very, very strange.
    1. tolancop
      tolancop 18 March 2014 15: 44
      +1
      willingness to declare war and "not excluding the use of force" are not the same thing ...
    2. mamont5
      mamont5 18 March 2014 15: 51
      +1
      Quote: erased
      This is all interesting. But there is other news. France is ready to declare war on Russia!

      And with whose hands she was going to fight? If the hands of Ukraine only.
      1. Kazakh
        Kazakh 18 March 2014 15: 53
        +2
        This is all interesting. But there is other news. France is ready to declare war on Russia
        Mistrels unfinished laughing
    3. hz123
      hz123 18 March 2014 15: 51
      +2
      I looked at the link. here the females of the dog, 3.14st remembered the Crimean War. the peace must be sent to the Central African Republic together with the peaceful geolags
    4. Lk17619
      Lk17619 18 March 2014 15: 57
      +1
      Gavkon is all the little things, their health is not enough to use force.
    5. densh
      densh 18 March 2014 16: 26
      +1
      Quote: erased
      . France is ready to declare war on Russia!

      The article is a continuous "water" - no specifics, and "Mistral" - "maybe".
      1. Ivan Russky
        Ivan Russky 18 March 2014 16: 42
        +1
        France is ready to declare war on Russia!

        Just ripples in the water, no more. It’s interesting what tomorrow’s GDP will say after today's speech.
    6. Tersky
      Tersky 18 March 2014 16: 45
      +3
      Quote: erased
      This is all interesting. But there is other news. France is ready to declare war on Russia!

      Let the frogmen open the history textbook and go through the material passed, and only then announce something ... For a long time there were no Cossacks in Paris, their women were longing for normal peasants ..
  • Arh
    Arh 18 March 2014 15: 39
    +2
    Better to live in health than in illness! ! ! * * *
  • shatu
    shatu 18 March 2014 15: 40
    +3
    I found here an article 2 years ago:
    Germany under the heel of the American Empire
    http://topwar.ru/14370-germaniya-pod-pyatoy-amerikanskoy-imperii.html
    And a fresher article, a year ago, Germany is not a sovereign state
    http://topwar.ru/24598-germaniya-ne-yavlyaetsya-suverennym-gosudarstvom.html

    The bottom line is that since the end of the Second World War, Germany has actually been in Pundossian occupation, a secret treaty has been concluded, the obligations under which are guaranteed by the German gold fund, and the fund is "kept" by the Pundossians - about 2 billion rotten dollars. By the way, does this moment remind you of anything in recent events? I give a hint, the gold of the Scythians, "insurance" for all the same rotten, not yet received, bucks!
    If you believe these data, then the throwing of Germany becomes clear. Why not believe them? When you can open any issue of "Krokodil", there was such a magazine in the USSR, to find caricatures of the bourgeoisie - and you know, today they do not seem so funny - as they say to the point.
    A small sample from the journal http://podonki.info/blog/158_let_turma/5383.html

    You can laugh with any conspiracy theories, such as the "Bilderberg Club", a month ago I would have laughed myself, but today it's not funny!
    It's time to open "Crocodile" and quite seriously study the legacy of our smart grandfathers, they were definitely smarter than us!
    1. shatu
      shatu 18 March 2014 15: 52
      +2
      By the way, the occupation of Germany is further confirmed by the following fact:
      US military bases abroad
      Germany (more than 100 thousand people, including infantry and tank units with a total number of more than 70 thousand people; 15 military bases of the NE, 4 army aviation bases and one logistics base - almost a quarter of all foreign Pentagon bases)


      see wiki "Military bases of the countries of the world abroad"
  • Burmistr
    Burmistr 18 March 2014 15: 41
    +10
    Recently, one authoritative person told me that Russia is the 51st US state. I do not want to believe in this at all. However, if you estimate some facts, then you can see this. For example, we do not engage in our own politics. All kinds of sanctions announce it to us, the central bank doesn’t submit to the state (private shop), and so on. That’s what kind of comedy we played with Ukraine and who needs it all is a big question for all of us. What kind of affairs are being turned under this noise and why - sooner or later we will find out. I do not believe in miracles, as well as in the complete frostbite of some politicians, including and from Independence Square. Someone receives green papers and thinks that he has some kind of guarantee. Someone has nowhere to go. There is an explanation for everything. The denouement, I think, will come soon. Devils from the West are likely to destroy witnesses, so the top of the Euromaidan, by definition, are not residents.
    1. Goodmen
      Goodmen 18 March 2014 16: 19
      +2
      Quote: Burmeister
      Recently, one authoritative person told me that Russia is the 51st US state. I do not want to believe in this at all. However, if you estimate some facts, then you can see this. For example, we do not engage in our own politics. All kinds of sanctions announce it to us, the central bank doesn’t submit to the state (private shop), and so on. That’s what kind of comedy we played with Ukraine and who needs it all is a big question for all of us. What kind of affairs are being turned under this noise and why - sooner or later we will find out. I do not believe in miracles, as well as in the complete frostbite of some politicians, including and from Independence Square. Someone receives green papers and thinks that he has some kind of guarantee. Someone has nowhere to go. There is an explanation for everything. The denouement, I think, will come soon. Devils from the West are likely to destroy witnesses, so the top of the Euromaidan, by definition, are not residents.


      The position is clear, understandable and reasonably justified by our realities.
      But nevertheless, with a sufficient realism-skepticism characteristic of me, at the current time I have an optimistic attitude.
      And it is connected just with the "comedy". I think that this is not a comedy, but a turning point in the struggle to gain control in our elite. Probably pro-Russian sentiments prevail. This has been seen for a long time. In foreign policy, for sure. Who is why to whom and how, naturally we do not know, and we will not know ... The main thing is the result in favor of Russia!
  • konvalval
    konvalval 18 March 2014 15: 46
    +1
    Right now, Ukraine is really a colony of the United States, but where does Independent Russia have to do with it? The guy ate too much land.
  • ioann1
    ioann1 18 March 2014 15: 49
    +7
    The Russian Constitution, adopted in a hurry to the end of 1993, also provides for Russia’s dependence on the United States, as it lost in the Cold War of 1945-1991. The states even provided for a medal for victory in the Cold War. This position makes Russia dependent on the United States. Why are there constant calls for amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation? De facto, Russia has already embarked on the path of liberation (Crimea is proof of this), and de jure requires amendments to the Basic Law.
  • shitovmg
    shitovmg 18 March 2014 15: 54
    +5
    I agree that the article was 15 years late for Russia. We laundered from this swamp, having paid with the loss of unique industries and technologies for this. Will have to re-create at a higher level. Who thinks differently, either young or half-witted. How we were destroyed in the early 90s ... Article + clearly. A heavy and uncomfortable topic raised! But it was.
    1. CTEPX
      CTEPX 18 March 2014 17: 06
      +1
      Quote: shitovmg
      I agree that the article was 15 years late for Russia. We washed from this swamp

      We just started to get up)).
  • ksenofont7
    ksenofont7 18 March 2014 15: 57
    +6
    Quote: Clegg
    Better to be a colony of the USA than to live with a scoop.
    to the wall am
    1. nas leonid
      nas leonid 18 March 2014 16: 10
      +1
      But you have to live where you live
  • fly fishing
    fly fishing 18 March 2014 16: 01
    0
    Great events await us, in fact we can become witnesses of the New World Order.

    - Hitler also smoked weed and loved fly agarics laughing The result is deplorable, it's too late to have an abortion love
  • Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 18 March 2014 16: 09
    +4
    Quote: ksenofont7
    Quote: Clegg
    Better to be a colony of the USA than to live with a scoop.
    to the wall am

    With the scoop, as it was - To each according to his abilities!
    That was probably a shepherd
    And now probably the cool man has become!
    He goes to Russia as a janitor to work
  • nas leonid
    nas leonid 18 March 2014 16: 09
    0
    NODU respect and respect!
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  • druidcat
    druidcat 18 March 2014 16: 10
    +1
    I am surprised that this was news to someone. We lost the war in 1991 and became colonies like all CIS countries. And we pay tribute every year to the USA and Europe. Therefore, they live so well, and not because they have democracy there and a highly organized society. They live off of us and others like us. And we live in the pit itself. We teach history, oh yes history books are also written by Americans, so our youth next year will try to destroy our homeland, as happened in Ukraine. Because now they do not know such a word Homeland.
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  • Partizan
    Partizan 18 March 2014 16: 12
    0
    Quote: erased
    This is all interesting. But there is other news. France is ready to declare war on Russia!
    Link to the document - http://warfiles.ru/show-50469-franciya-ne-isklyuchaet-primeneniya-sily-v-otnoshe




    nii-rossii.html
    But this is not a joke! This is war! And if the Russian government is silent, it will be very, very strange.

    Oh how! It’s Storage, not NATO, namely Storage, right? That’s how the fighters of the Mistrals ousted France, already a war laughing Yes, to hell there, with bare heels where they are against our drafts! Che they smoke it, interesno.
    But seriously, most likely - another provocation.
    1. Kazakh
      Kazakh 18 March 2014 16: 16
      +3
      France is ready to declare war on Russia!
      they want to give up laughing Oh cunning so that a referendum is not wasted laughing surrender and join
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  • Counter
    Counter 18 March 2014 16: 16
    +1
    Quote: Clegg
    Better to be a colony of the USA than to live with a scoop.

    People like you express themselves only with slogans that do not carry ANYTHING! And the reason for this is your holiness. And who brought you to this holosiness? In the 20 years that Ukraine was considered an independent state, it has become a passage yard for the West. And it was under their strict guidance that your life turned into FULL G ..! Now the West only has to pick up your territory, and the point is in the hat.
  • Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 18 March 2014 16: 20
    +3
    Quote: konvalval
    Right now, Ukraine is really a colony of the United States, but where does Independent Russia have to do with it? The guy ate too much land.

    You wait for the horses to drive!
    No one has yet become a colony of anyone. And I think that never will.
    While Russia is on its feet, the war with the "world government" is not over. Yes, if we are alone
  • nnnnnn
    nnnnnn 18 March 2014 16: 27
    +2
    The subject of the essay was strange. "If the Germans won?" Vitya P. strained all his imagination and creaked with a pen. Alas, it turned out to be some kind of monstrous, unimaginable list of absurdities. This could not have happened in Russia. But it was not the Germans who won in the end.

    There will be practically no industry in the country, the occupiers will be concerned only with the pumped out natural resources from our territories. Instead of the people's militiamen, there will be policemen from the rabble from the people, there will be a lot of them, and the people will be more afraid of them than bandits. At every exit from the city, the police will check those who are going to leave or arrive. Each resident will be required to register with the police at their place of residence. To maintain the fear, they will create wild bands of mountain peoples. From time to time they will attack the local population, rob and kill. The rulers will be recruited from especially dastardly local residents. The children and wives of the rulers will live abroad for safety. And they themselves take turns here on a rotational basis. All the nobility will only drive black German cars with sirens. Ordinary people during their passage will need to run away to the side of the road and wait until they pass. In the end, fascism will become the most popular doctrine against general despair. Only Russian. German goods will be considered the best and most desirable in Russia. The President, he will speak German much better than Russian. Instead of vodka, they will advertise and sell beer everywhere, as in Germany. Those who fought against the Germans will receive pennies, and on holidays meager dry rations. Russians killed in the war will be buried in mass graves, if only to be noted as a burial. Most of the country's male population will pass through the camps. To break the will to resist Teachers and doctors in the occupied territories will receive minimum maintenance, only so that the population does not shrink and oskotinize not very quickly. On the far outskirts of Russia, such as Primorye, partisans may remain. They will attack the policemen, but the frightened population will not help them in any way. Roads will not be built, and gasoline will be made more expensive, so that the people stay at home. The people will be strictly forbidden to have weapons, so that they do not suddenly rebel. For the life of the population, cheap barracks with low ceilings, 8 meters per person, will be insisted. The most agile and intelligent will be given the opportunity to leave and live abroad, this will be considered a great success in life. America will be declared the main enemy of Russia. "

    The teacher Vera Pavlovna pondered the assessment for a long time. And set 3 for a good fantasy.
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    2. Ivan Russky
      Ivan Russky 18 March 2014 17: 00
      +2
      Something it reminds me of, I can’t remember what. belay But if in fact it’s our nineties. But much of what is stated here is still practiced in our present. hi
  • anip
    anip 18 March 2014 16: 29
    +3
    Everything, there was just a live broadcast of Putin’s speech. Crimea became a subject of the Russian Federation.
  • ken
    ken 18 March 2014 16: 33
    +3
    Previously, somehow our grandparents lived behind the Iron Curtain and nothing. And we will live !!!
  • Const
    Const 18 March 2014 16: 46
    0
    As it is not sad to admit, this is true. And for Russia the same thing, only they are still afraid of us. The bitter truth, there is something to ponder.
  • andrey_kz
    andrey_kz 18 March 2014 16: 56
    +2
    [quote = Counter] [quote = Clegg] It’s better to be a US colony than to live with a scoop. [/ quote]
    But for some reason, in the 60s, all the colonies and often at the cost of a lot of blood got rid of this "happiness", in contrast to the scoop for which the overwhelming majority voted in the republics too.
  • fktrcfylhn61
    fktrcfylhn61 18 March 2014 16: 57
    0
    So that's why Russia has such high interest rates on loans! This is a teddy bear and tried its shobla! Maybe someday, someone will dot the I!
    1. Ivan Russky
      Ivan Russky 18 March 2014 17: 03
      +1
      Not that big but predatory.
  • Partizan
    Partizan 18 March 2014 16: 59
    +1
    Quote: nnnnnn
    The subject of the essay was strange. "If the Germans won?" Vitya P. strained all his imagination and creaked with a pen ... But in the end it was not the Germans who won.

    There will be practically no industry in the country, the occupiers will be concerned only with the pumped out natural resources from our territories. Instead of the people's militiamen, there will be policemen from the rabble from the people, there will be a lot of them, and the people will be more afraid of them than bandits. At every exit from the city, the police will check those who are going to leave or arrive. Each resident will be required to register with the police at their place of residence. To maintain the fear, they will create wild bands of mountain peoples. From time to time they will attack the local population, rob and kill. The rulers will be recruited from especially dastardly local residents. The children and wives of the rulers will live abroad for safety. And they themselves take turns here on a rotational basis. All the nobility will only drive black German cars with sirens. Ordinary people during their passage will need to run away to the side of the road and wait until they pass. In the end, fascism will become the most popular doctrine against general despair. Only Russian. German goods will be considered the best and most desirable in Russia. The President, he will speak German much better than Russian. Instead of vodka, they will advertise and sell beer everywhere, as in Germany. Those who fought against the Germans will receive pennies, and on holidays meager dry rations. Russians killed in the war will be buried in mass graves, if only to be noted as a burial. Most of the country's male population will pass through the camps. To break the will to resist Teachers and doctors in the occupied territories will receive minimum maintenance, only so that the population does not shrink and oskotinize not very quickly. On the far outskirts of Russia, such as Primorye, partisans may remain. They will attack the policemen, but the frightened population will not help them in any way. Roads will not be built, and gasoline will be made more expensive, so that the people stay at home. The people will be strictly forbidden to have weapons, so that they do not suddenly rebel. For the life of the population, cheap barracks with low ceilings, 8 meters per person, will be insisted. The most agile and intelligent will be given the opportunity to leave and live abroad, this will be considered a great success in life. America will be declared the main enemy of Russia. "

    The teacher Vera Pavlovna pondered the assessment for a long time. And set 3 for a good fantasy.


    You practically described the current situation in Russia, where is the source? or wrote yourself?
  • Capacitor
    Capacitor 18 March 2014 17: 10
    +2
    Quote: Clegg
    Better to be a colony of the USA than to live with a scoop.


    shame should be, neither honor nor conscience, weakness is your conscience, there is no strength in you
  • kirqiz ssr
    kirqiz ssr 18 March 2014 17: 21
    +3
    he sucked from the west, they gave him money to this Kazakh, therefore a corrupt Kazakh writes poorly about my homeland of the USSR.
  • Santor
    Santor 18 March 2014 17: 30
    +4
    http://warfiles.ru/show-50469-franciya-ne-isklyuchaet-primeneniya-sily-v-otnoshe

    nii-rossii.html - something recently this resource publishes some provocative posts.

    This minister, one of the gay men in power, hates Russia to such an extent that Lavrov sometimes forced to communicate directly with the French President ..

    He voiced this thought the day before yesterday, to which he was reasonably answered there - hear, Kazel, and who will pay the forfeit to the Russians? After all, Russia has already transferred the money? And who will pay the penalty to the firms Renault and Peugeot, which built factories in Russia? Who and how will explain to the workers who built the ships? It’s all so at the top, but not at the bottom for a long time .... Marie Le Pen is gaining popularity points, and her first assistant was present at the referendum in Crimea ... just rolled it up?

    If they decide to throw Russia, then it will quite rightly throw them all, vetoing the payment of public debt, refusing supplies from Europe ... Yes, we’ll tighten ....

    Who doesn’t know - sanctions against the Kaliningrad region have been in effect for three weeks already - Poland and Lithuania, on a far-fetched pretext (found they had foot and mouth disease), have stopped supplying meat and dairy products to the region .... Only minced chicken and chicken meat are mainly sold region several of its poultry farms .... So what? Tsukanov spoke with Lukashenko, and what would you think ??? Today, the first refrigerated train arrived from Belarus to the region with beef, pork, dairy products (it’s more profitable to bring it to the railway)
    And in Poland, the indignation of farmers, owners of hundreds of shops built in the border for trade with Russians (I recall who did not know, 50 with Poland is a kilometer-long visa-free zone on both sides of the border) is growing in Poland, dairy producers are in the pope ... In the EU, she not needed, but it was supplied to the region and sold well. well done Lithuanians, they know how to make a quality product.

    Belarusians won ... Lithuania will not be able to close the message - then Russia will block gas and oil to it. Moreover, the entire gas station network in Lithuania and the Mazeikiai plant belong to Lukoil.
    1. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 18 March 2014 18: 42
      0
      All these sanctions are from a lack of mind. Consciousness is not enough, that it is a double-edged sword and the second end bangs them on its own forehead and is very painful.
  • Stepnyak
    Stepnyak 18 March 2014 17: 31
    +4
    everywhere there are such subhuman people who have appeared on chewing gum and jeans to sell their mother mother, but they will not even remember their homeland
  • darksoul
    darksoul 18 March 2014 17: 36
    +3
    Quote: Clegg
    Better to be a colony of the USA than to live with a scoop.



    The amazing ability of new youth to abandon the history of the winners, from those to whom they are really dear to call the Kremlin regime ..... Kazakhstan knows better and at the moment he made his choice, well, it's never too late for you a suitcase -> USA -> write there book how the Kremlin oppresses peoples who want democracy -> get some candy. But you will not get pleasure from her, all this is someone else's, not that and no matter how shit ... whether ... it's much easier for you to communicate with a Russian Vanya than with cattle in the USA
    1. Clegg
      Clegg 18 March 2014 17: 40
      -1
      Quote: darksoul
      Kazakhstan knows better and at the moment he made his choice, well, it's never too late for you to have a suitcase -> USA -> write a book there how the Kremlin oppresses peoples who want democracy -> get candy. But you will not get pleasure from her, all this is someone else's, not that and no matter how shit ... whether ... it's much easier for you to communicate with a Russian Vanya than with cattle in the USA

      Why, Russians themselves suffered no less than others from the Communists
      1. gfs84
        gfs84 18 March 2014 18: 19
        +1
        Why, Russians themselves suffered no less than others from the Communists


        Have you suffered? ..
        Or maybe they just told us that we were suffering? ..
        As now they are trying to convince you that behind the "big puddle" everything is covered in chocolate ...
        You just need to bend under it ...
        Now remember: how many state-owned companies operate in Kazakhstan, and what have they done for its economy and population? ..
        Take, for example, the Karachaganak oil and gas condensate field (it's closer to me, I work in the oilfield service), the main operators British Gas, Eni, ChevronTexaco ... And the state-owned KazMunayGag owns only 10% ...
        So your favorite states are pumping oil, gas and condensate from the bowels of Kazakhstan, and in return they give only their own "candy wrappers" ... Great?
        He himself worked near Uralsk in 2007-2008 in exploration for the search for hydrocarbons, we look at the composition of the performers:
        Drilling - Italians (Eni),
        Logging - French + Schlumberger states,
        Grouting - Baker Hughes,
        The GTI is our office, that is, Russia,
        Solution preparation - I don’t remember exactly, but also some kind of staff office
        The owners of the field are the Kazakhstan company, but all the authorized capital (read the owners) belongs to the American fund ...
        It seems cool! Citizens of Kazakhstan are given work! Only partly - the entire engineering staff is foreigners, from Germans to Romanians (chef in town), the driver of the loader was from the Czech Republic !!! The Kazakhs are either laborers (pom.bury, aide to the solvent, drivers, etc.), or controllers (drilling supervisors) !!!
        Now the question is: when will oil, gas, uranium, copper, etc. end? they will leave, and besides trash and holes in the ground, they will not leave anything even educated specialists, not to mention production with a high degree of VAT, and you say that it is good to be a state colony? ...
        1. gfs84
          gfs84 18 March 2014 20: 37
          +1
          Thanks for the minus!
          So everything that I said is not far from the truth.
  • darksoul
    darksoul 18 March 2014 17: 51
    +3
    Quote: Clegg
    Why, Russians themselves suffered no less than others from the Communists


    and everyone was suffering and rejoicing, someone was offended by something. If we remember our history, the offenders aren’t enough, so it’s better to be proud of our history and victories than to look for cons dooming ourselves to a dependent slave. Who told you that you are under the Kremlin? In the American media? We treat the Kazakhs with respect as good neighbors. Believe me, the United States does not treat others as a second grade. I have 5 people my acquaintances returned from the states, in view of the fact that here now there are other opportunities and it’s not native to them.
    1. Clegg
      Clegg 18 March 2014 18: 12
      0
      Quote: darksoul
      Who told you that you are under the Kremlin?

      I see the rhetoric of your politicians, they speak of a single parliament, language, a single currency, etc. all this within the framework of the Eurasian project.
      1. gfs84
        gfs84 18 March 2014 18: 29
        +1
        I see the rhetoric of your politicians, they talk about a single parliament, language, a single currency, etc. all this within the framework of the Eurasian project.


        The United States has 50 states (so far 50 may increase if California is fragmented or decrease if Russia finds a "check" for Alaska) and they also have a single parliament, language and currency ...
        But the states do not call the colonies into their parliament, but they push the language and currency very actively ...
        That is, you want everything to be decided for you and only given green pieces of paper? ...
        Well, yes, in association with Russia, Belarus, etc. will have to work and make difficult decisions in parliament (as today, for example) ...
        In Ukraine, all their powers have already been transferred to Washington ... What did this lead to? Do you want this for your country?
  • Refugee from Kazakhstan
    Refugee from Kazakhstan 18 March 2014 20: 30
    0
    As I understand it, Maidans are born in such "patriotic" forums! I do not advise Russians to rock the boat, a bad world is better than a good quarrel!
    1. tokin1959
      tokin1959 19 March 2014 00: 31
      +2
      copied, but I agree

      Hello. I am a Russian occupier. It happened historically.

      Я
      occupied Siberia. Now they extract oil, gas, aluminum and a bunch more
      all useful. Now there are cities in which there are multi-storey buildings.
      Now you can’t sell women there for knitting sable skins like this
      It was before the Russians.

      Я
      occupied the Baltic states. He built factories and power plants there. Instead of them
      funny farms. The Baltic states made high-class radio equipment and
      cars. I was asked to leave from there. Now they get sprats, and
      most of the working-age population cleans Euro-nitases.

      Я
      occupied Ukraine. And there, I also built factories and power plants.
      Ukraine made aircraft engines, ships, tanks and cars. Me
      asked to leave from there. Now they produce it, you know what?

      Me
      I’m sick of apologizing for being an invader. Yes, I am an occupier. Rightfully
      birth. The device of a Kalashnikov assault rifle, I know better than the device
      nipples for milk. I am an aggressor and bloodthirsty. Be afraid.

      It's me
      burned Moscow, so as not to give it to Napoleon Bonaparte, but how he finished
      Bonaparte? I was sitting in a trench near Volokolamsk, realizing that the Germans
      it’s impossible to keep, where are the Germans today, where is their first Hitler? To me
      Everyone came home to whom not laziness. Turks, British, Poles, Germans,
      French people. Enough land for everyone - 2,5 meters each.

      I was, is and will be a Russian occupier. and I don’t advise you to rock the boat.
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  • Nikxnumx
    Nikxnumx 18 March 2014 21: 40
    +3
    Quote: Ivan Tarasov
    Those who did not live in Soviet times cannot compare.
    So they quote liberal propaganda ...
  • voliador
    voliador 19 March 2014 00: 37
    +2
    For example, the US Embassy Special Fund is a regular sponsor of the LGBT community in Ukraine.

    So let everyone take the pedril to themselves.
  • Qytayjuz
    Qytayjuz 19 March 2014 10: 37
    +3
    Quote: darksoul
    Quote: Clegg
    Better to be a colony of the USA than to live with a scoop.

    This is wrong, for post-Soviet countries it will be better when the balance of forces is maintained in the world. Violations of the balance due to the strengthening of one of them is not beneficial for us, as they can .. from this and do whatever they want, something like that. And at the expense of the union, it is possible to single out only Stalin, the USSR became a great country thanks to him, and the rest - all sorts of corn-moths, drunks and henpecked ruined everything.