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Pro EastIt's great that Russian liberals support Western Ukrainians in their right to self-determination.
It is a pity that Russian liberals do not support Eastern Ukrainians in the same right.

And they do not even know what their position is.
I will try to explain.

Look here. You live in Eastern Ukraine.
Years to you, say, 40, or 50, or 60. Maybe even 30 or 70.
You are Russian. It's not about blood. By language, culture, self-consciousness - Russian.
You were born in the Soviet Union. You treat him calmly. You are not a fan of Stalin. But there are some other things. Childhood. War veterans. You do not judge everything in a crowd.
You live outside of Russia already 20 with figo years. But you have not become non-Russian. The unwritten concept of the country of Ukraine was in balance between eastern and western.

You always perceived Western Ukraine as something slightly different. Separate. You live in the same country, but you are very, very different.
They beat Soviet veterans from time to time there. It annoys you. They are there from time to time break to spend the SS parades. It infuriates you. They are talking about Bandera-hero. You consider them sick. They create from scratch the concept of Ukrainianness. Ukrainians are believed to be cool because they are Ukrainians. You consider them idiots.
You can guess that they are not all like that. But the “voice of the west” sounds like this. The rest is yours. Therefore, this is what strikes the eye. Their "feature" is obtained in this. You are not holy. In your anger, the sun also sets.

Four years ago, you voted for Yanukovich. Not because you like him. But because Tymoshenko is the same thing, only worse.
You do not support Yanukovych. You do not like corrupt. But most of you do not vote for anyone. There was no intelligible politician in the east.
You are a simple person. You want peace, prosperity, good relations primarily with Russia, because it is special for you, but also with Europe.
You were not against association with the EU. Especially if it allowed not to move away from Russia. Most likely you have children or relatives in Russia, or someone works there, or friends, etc.
You rather like modern Russia. The world and relative affluence, especially in your background, is there.
All these years, Ukraine is supported by Russia and only Russia. The labor market is open. Direct assistance to tens of billions. Discounts, joint projects, mostly open commodity market. There are three or five million people working there. The rest is just a promise.

No one bothers you in Ukraine to speak Russian. But Russian schools every year less and less. Russian universities are not at all. In a country where for 80% of the population the native language is Russian. One president translated everything into Ukrainian. The other never did it yourself to do the opposite. A lot of anti-Russian rhetoric, which is generally harmless, but very frustrating and annoying.

The country is a continuous mess and continuous elections. And poverty.
Thieves who change presidents and continue to master the budget with any rhetoric and with any personalities.
A new protest started again by them. And it does not follow from anything that they have somehow changed.

You want to live without a mess and without poverty. You are looking at Russia.
You think that the west of the country does not produce anything, it only eats up your taxes. Although in general it is not so.
But in the west they often say that only they are normal and real Ukrainians. And you - either unfinished, or fools, or traitors.
Sometimes you think about whether you want to be Ukrainian.

Then begins maidan.
Independence overthrows the legitimately elected power. Including your favorites. You - do not ask.
Maidan does it with weapons in hand. And lying, that does it without weapons.
Independence shoots at his. And lying, that the authorities do it.
Independence fed oligarchs. Those that nominated Yanukovych, and then, when he began to feed his children more than them, pushed back.
You think that this is an agreement between the oligarchs and the nationalists and politicians with the quantitative support of people who want the best but who use bad means and go in the wrong direction.

Maidan does not represent the whole of Ukraine. He does not represent you.
You, too, for honest power and good laws.
But not by the forces of militants trained in famous countries with certain convictions. The swastikas on their shoulders and the words about the war with Russia in their mouth do not constitute your choice to them.
And not only under the direction and for the good of the oligarchs. You know them well.
And just not under the anti-Russian rhetoric.
And not only under the guidance of Western politicians. You still dislike them since the Soviet times. But it's not that. You know the value of their words. Even for this very stories. When they interfered with the authorities, supported the militants and found the anti-constitutional coup d'etat to be peaceful and lawful. You suspect that they do it not because of their blindness or indifference, but because of their interest.
And not with these politicians. You do not consider Yatsenyuk, Klitschko or Tyagnibok decision makers, because you are not a fool. They are puppets, and you know it.

Would you like it?
Laws equal for all. Respect for both sides of the issue. Lack of antibiotic rhetoric. Elections, not rebellion.
You would like that in Ukraine, provided the current borders are preserved, they once and for all stop believing that only Ukrainians live here in the Galichina sense of the word.

Yanukovych’s overthrow is perplexed. He was bad. These are no better. And the methods are disgusting.
And now they are starting to make bills.
Cancel the special status of the Russian language.
Rename the streets in the names of their "heroes".
Move not only to the EU, but to NATO.
Ban the Communist Party and the Party of Regions.
Cancel the responsibility for the justification of fascism.
Condemn the Soviet occupation of Ukraine.
To ban Russian television (in part already).

Much of that word, yes. But you hear these words.
Now it is.
Deputies are beaten near the street.
Charged with crimes released without trial.
Constitutional court dispersed.
The “government” and the “president” are appointed without any signs of legality.
House political opponents burned.
Looting blooms in all colors.
Not all of this was done by politicians, of course. This was done by those demons that they released, those demons, with whose forces they overthrew Yanukovych.

There are many different people on Independence. A lot of decent and honest. But in the midst of this tantrum and in your anger the sun sets. You are not a saint, not a genius or an analyst.

And the new authorities are the very ones that call the Russian-speaking "degenerates."
Those who say that "we will hang them later."
Those who talked about the campaign in Russia.
“Your” new authorities, even if not in the highest ranks, speak of a war with your homeland without quotes.

Maybe you had a chance at your peaceful protest?
Maybe you were given the right to hold a referendum, to create autonomy?
Maybe the “government” is trying to be balanced and listen to you?
Как бы не так.

They do not want to compromise. Referendum will not. Your leaders are being held up.
You do not want to go to the end yourself. There will be a lot of blood. You are a normal person, you have a family. You do not go on antimaydan, although sympathize, and therefore it is not as great as it could. Instead of fighting you are depressed.

You are looking at the Crimea. And rejoice.
There, people do not want to live with such Kiev. A good reason to return to Russia.
They are resolute there. And they have the support of the Russian army.
They will hold a referendum and will be part of Russia.
Not that Russia is heaven on earth. But she is her own.

It is easy for you to imagine what awaits you next.
There will be no autonomy, no referendum, no consideration of your opinion.
Your leaders are already being delayed and will continue to be delayed.
Russian in schools and universities you can not see how their ears.
Respectful attitude to Russian and Soviet, too.
At the same time and visa-free entry to Russia.
You are waiting for the NATO base, the famous sower of democracy. You are for democracy, but you are not a fool, you know how to distinguish theory from practice.
You will be glorified by Bandera and the cancellation of the 9 parades in May (already).
Are you sure that against the background of these, Yanukovych will very soon seem the most democratic. And at the same time and honest.
Waiting for you cuts pensions and a twofold increase in rents. The welfare within your life can be forgotten.
Your industry will be commissioned at a very low price and at a very high percentage.

And most importantly.
You will have the feeling that you are a stranger in your country.
Your language, your attitude to the past, your political preferences, your attitude towards your homeland - all this will be alien.

And now guess at one time whether you support the entry of the Russian army to the east of Ukraine.
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  1. Igor39
    Igor39 17 March 2014 08: 39
    +12
    Only by force can we resolve a situation which is still unknown ..
    1. Duke
      Duke 17 March 2014 08: 48
      +20
      The most important unity, together we are strength!
      1. super-vitek
        super-vitek 17 March 2014 09: 24
        +30
        What can I comment !!! I listen and roar from resentment, from bitterness, from powerlessness to help blind people to see who are the true HEROES, and of course from ENDLESS PRIDE because we belong to the people who are the liberator, the people to the winner !!! ETERNAL GLORY AND ETERNAL MEMORY! !! Death to the Bandera reptile !!!
        1. stroporez
          stroporez 17 March 2014 09: 52
          +5
          Quote: super-vitek
          from the fact that we belong to the people of the liberator, the people of the winner !!! ETERNAL GLORY and ETERNAL MEMORY !!! Death to the Bandera reptile !!!
          --------- + 100500 ------------- Envy the world! WE are from this PEOPLE !!!!!!
          1. Ivan_Ivanov
            Ivan_Ivanov 17 March 2014 12: 16
            +2
            The owners of all large industrial enterprises in the Southeast, mines, power plants, trade unions, the power vertical, security officials, the media are the oligarchs who sponsored the Euro Maidan, organized it. These are the shadow leaders of the Maidan euro. 20 years of their stay at the head of the country, regions of the country, industrial groups, there was a continuous systematic destruction of industry, factories, enterprises. You can also understand how they destroyed their competitors. But they also destroyed their factories, which belong to their own production! They were set here, they were allowed to be in charge only so that they would destroy industry. Slowly and gradually, over the years and decades, so that people do not rebel.

            Why did Crimea defeat?

            - There Russia forced the local oligarchs to work for themselves, but in fact there was no local oligarchy,
            or
            - Took control of power verticals and security forces from Ukrainian oligarchs - agents of international capital,
            or
            - Created parallel power hidden verticals, prepared power groups from local ones.

            But rather all together.

            In the south-east of Ukraine, none of this has been done. Not done for objective reasons: the lack of resources in Russia (primarily human), the strength of local oligarchs.
            It is not necessary to wait for success in the Southeast until the above measures are implemented, or at least one of them. Everyone will crush the protest movement: the leadership of enterprises, the security forces, the authorities ... It is impossible to organize protests in the Southeast under such conditions. But this does not mean at all that protests are neither necessary nor important.

            The success of Russia with the Crimea allows us to hope that the local oligarchs of the Southeast and representatives of the power vertical will be more accommodating, they will understand on whose side the force is now and will take the side of Russia.
            1. Niki
              Niki 17 March 2014 13: 05
              0
              Generally speaking, it may be due to the fact that Crimea was autonomy after all, and maybe because of the stubbornness of Crimeans to conduct business and arranging life in the region in a state of prolonged opposition to Kiev ... Moreover, it is now becoming clear what Crimea was losing moments and had to constantly butt with Kiev appointees.

              But Crimea had the Supreme Council and the Government. They simply prepared for the option that the Maidan would seize power. You can see separately and how many deputies of the PR were in the Crimean Armed Forces?

              Therefore, all other regional councils hoped that Maidan was about to dissolve, either scatter, or freeze. Kernes fidgeted, Dobkin puffed out his cheeks and moved his eyebrows menacingly. The audience laughed and no one was going to defend anything, wipe out, etc.
              Maidan did not dissipate, alas. And this despite the fact that no one really hid then, back in winter, that the Maidan was actually almost completely built into the housing and communal services of Kiev and, if there is money, it can stand forever. It was enough to see that the first state institution had been seized to prepare for life after his "victory".
              1. StolzSS
                StolzSS 17 March 2014 19: 51
                +1
                C'mon, everyone hoped, as always, they sat like rats according to the principle of my hut from the edge; now let them shovel or grow wiser the third is not given ....
            2. Demon0n
              Demon0n 17 March 2014 14: 18
              0
              Ivan_Ivanov
              In part, everything is true (you think in the right direction, add more people in positions and formed power structures ... by the example of house councils ** at least). I will not go into details.
              However, I believe that this task is within the power of the townspeople. You just need to stop overly emotional fuss and turn on your head. Moreover, I would venture to assert that the task of retaining power at first is also within the power of the townspeople (but already in an "alliance" with intelligence). Remember Chechnya (provided that there were no handicraft means of ind. Protection and handicraft weapons, and, as a consequence, new tactics ... + knowledge of physics, chemistry, rags ...). Nothing is impossible. Everything that is needed is in the history of mankind + something can be used from the present days (due to the progress and spread of certain "things" in the civilian sector) and even more with ingenuity.
              Otherwise, you will have to wait for the Kremlin’s actions and agree to some unpleasant moments.
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        3. Gennady1973
          Gennady1973 17 March 2014 10: 04
          +14
          Yarosh. Tyagnibok. White. Turchinov. Yatsenyuk. Klitschko ....
    2. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 17 March 2014 08: 52
      +28
      It is necessary to help the Russian and pro-Russian population of Southeast Ukraine (Novorossiya according to the old), determine in a referendum, like the Crimea, and reunite with RUSSIA.
      Otherwise, in Nazi Bandera Ukraine, the Russian population will inevitably face genocide and destruction. Some slogans are worth something and warn about the danger: "who does not jump that mos-kal", "Russians for knives."
      1. Soldier
        Soldier 17 March 2014 09: 07
        +11
        Quote: vladimirZ
        It is necessary to help the Russian and pro-Russian population

        Yes, not only to the Russian, but to all fraternal peoples who are not on the way with either the geyropa or the Nazis. And it doesn’t matter if he is Russian, Ukrainian, Hungarian, Moldavian, or who else ...
      2. GDP
        GDP 17 March 2014 09: 29
        +13
        Great article. The author has laid out everything on the shelves! We shouldn't stop in the middle of the road! It is necessary to force Kiev, start leading a diologue from the south and east of Ukraine! Make it clear to this new Western "power" who has the audacity to speak on behalf of the whole of Ukraine that if they do not start a dialogue, they will lose everything!
        The Russians do not abandon their own ... - I hope this will continue!
    3. Skiff-2
      Skiff-2 17 March 2014 13: 15
      +1
      Quote: Igor39
      And now guess at one time whether you support the entry of the Russian army to the east of Ukraine.


      Yes, we can’t wait for her darling! Either enter or help with weapons.
    4. Skiff-2
      Skiff-2 17 March 2014 13: 29
      +1
      Attention everyone! Just now in Ukraine, the current government announced a complete mobilization! Mobilization is war.
    5. Ross
      Ross 17 March 2014 18: 09
      +1
      Igor39
      Only by force can we resolve a situation which is still unknown ..

      And the GDP, as I already said: we will liberate Ukraine shoulder to shoulder with ... Ukrainian fraternal army!
  2. Unknown
    Unknown 17 March 2014 08: 44
    +23
    NO NEGOTIATIONS WITH FRITZES Our grandfathers and great-grandfathers drove them, and they glorify them!!! SHAME OF THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE !!! stop negative angry
  3. NOMADE
    NOMADE 17 March 2014 08: 45
    +17
    Strong article. Thanks to the author. But to the liberals (51 columns), this is not understood ... they are working out their silver pieces ..
    1. 77bob1973
      77bob1973 17 March 2014 09: 06
      +4
      I agree that our Navalny, Nemtsov, Novodvorsky, though "piss in the eye", recently read several liberal articles "for peace and stopping the occupation of Ukraine" one of these articles was by Boris Akunin, but written almost like a carbon copy.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 17 March 2014 09: 49
        +1
        Quote: 77bob1973
        one of these articles was Boris Akunin, but they were written almost under a carbon copy.

        So Akunin wrote, and everyone else rolled up! laughing
    2. ImPerts
      ImPerts 17 March 2014 09: 47
      +21
      High level trolling)))
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      3. shatu
        shatu 17 March 2014 12: 31
        +2
        It doesn’t quite coincide, it rather projects a march of captured Germans.
        Specially began to look for this route (at the same time and enlightened), the Germans were led along the Garden Ring
        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Марш_пленных_немцев_по_Моск
        ve

        but because of these vyb..dkov who will block the main artery of the city center?

        On the topic of these creatures I would like to give an interesting link http://vk.com/black_list_stars?w=wall-67653588_1489
        "Blacklist of those who supported the Nazi Maidan"

        How do you like this? Beauty!
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  4. Mazadrive
    Mazadrive 17 March 2014 08: 45
    +6
    Well, what can I say ... There is strength.

    Under the guise of C-300, the Iskanders, the Ka-52 squadron and the attack aircraft squadron from the Moscow Region were transferred to Oktyabrsky.
    In Crimea, the group was brought up to 28 thousand people.

    From Bandera expected provocations.
    1. Tron
      Tron 17 March 2014 08: 55
      +10
      Quote: Mazadrive
      Under the guise of S-300, the Iskanders, Ka-52 squadron and attack aircraft squadron were transferred to Oktyabrskoye

      A veteran of the Maidan is getting ready to fully meet Russian aviation:
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 17 March 2014 09: 24
        +6
        pictured is a Russian soldier
  5. ziqzaq
    ziqzaq 17 March 2014 08: 48
    +4
    Concisely and very accurately, the article plus ...
  6. k19
    k19 17 March 2014 08: 48
    +1
    will wait...
  7. svp67
    svp67 17 March 2014 08: 50
    +6
    And now guess at one time whether you support the entry of the Russian army to the east of Ukraine.
    And that's the big question ...? Since there are a lot of factors that must be taken into account, in particular, and "ours are beaten" ... In any case, "misinformation" about the "seizure of Crimea" by Russian troops

    caused a big surge of patriotism,
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUdM4-gWnI0
    who was now, of course, very much asleep, since people are not stupid, they see ... but still, not everything is so simple in Ukraine, the only thing I can say is that time is working for Russia ... "Kiev usurpers" will not resist .. ...
    1. philip
      philip 17 March 2014 09: 15
      +1
      "Kiev usurpers" will not hold out ...

      It does not cause doubts. But it seems that the support that Russia is providing to Ukraine could be greater.
      1. BOB48
        BOB48 17 March 2014 09: 33
        .
        "Russia" - to Ukraine? ...... - until !!!!
      2. Alexred
        Alexred 17 March 2014 10: 50
        +6
        Capitalized Russia
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 17 March 2014 09: 48
      +11
      Quote: svp67
      caused a big surge of patriotism,


      Yes Yes! That's even Vitalik noted!!!
      "People's Deputy of Ukraine, leader of the UDAR faction Vitaliy Klitschko spoke about the results of his trip to Zhitomir, to the location of the motorized rifle brigade." I was in Zhitomir, visited the 72nd Bila Tserkva motorized rifle brigade. She conducts exercises, is now in combat readiness. say that the rumors that the army died, they are too exaggerated. The motorized rifle brigade is on alert. The equipment is there, everything works. I was amazed by the fighting spirit of the guys, they say: "We are in our homeland, if, God forbid , there will be an invasion, we will defend our country. We are ready, "he stressed."
      XXXX
      But the people already know - since Vitalik said - it's Mr.!
      1. svp67
        svp67 17 March 2014 10: 25
        +1
        Quote: Egoza
        But the people already know - since Vitalik said - it's Mr.!
        Good day Ma'am hi
        Well, every time has its own signs ...
    3. neri73-r
      neri73-r 17 March 2014 11: 20
      0
      The main thing is that they would not have time to sell the gas transmission system to Americans, today this info has passed in the news, Yatsenyuk has already promised!
      1. jjj
        jjj 17 March 2014 13: 52
        0
        The GTS, in fact, needs to be completely reconstructed. It is long, expensive and dreary. Instead, we will launch South Stream in a year. And if there is no gas in the GTS, then these are just stocks of scrap metal
  8. -Patriot-
    -Patriot- 17 March 2014 08: 50
    +5
    The Maydauns will soon feel the consequences of their actions: budget cuts, surcharges for gas with petrol, and "visa-free entry" ... No crumbs from the lord's table will help. They do not know that they are becoming only a springboard for NATO, naive.
    1. zzz
      zzz 17 March 2014 09: 12
      +4
      Quote: -Patriot-
      They are not aware that they are becoming only a springboard for NATO, naive.

      Yes, they do not care, if only to annoy Moscow by any means!
  9. W1950
    W1950 17 March 2014 08: 51
    +9
    We need all the liberals led by Gozman to Western Ukraine. Maybe they will cross over when they start making lampshades from them.
  10. mabuta
    mabuta 17 March 2014 08: 52
    +11
    The liberals are the same everywhere. In 1905, they sent Mikado congratulations on our defeat. The truth in 1917 came back to them.http: //topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/291/mjxe710.jpg
  11. Siberian19
    Siberian19 17 March 2014 08: 53
    +6
    There are victims, weapons are firing, the Olympiad is over, our Crimea, Russia is being called for help! What are we waiting for comrade Putin? Isn't it time?
    1. major071
      major071 17 March 2014 08: 59
      +22
      Putin is silent again. In connection with recent events, this leads to some thoughts. Moreover, positive for us and very bad for the West and their licking from Ukraine. wink
      Soon in schools in history lessons will be studying the topic: "2013-2014. Putin's silence. Revival of Russia!" yes
      1. vadson
        vadson 17 March 2014 09: 38
        +4
        most likely Putin’s decision has already been made, in the next half year, with the worsening economic situation, several more eastern regions will fall off Ukraine.
        I think so © mimino.
      2. Weniamin
        Weniamin 17 March 2014 10: 46
        +3
        Soon in schools in history lessons will be studying the topic: "2013-2014. Putin's silence. Revival of Russia!"

        Strongly said! I go with pleasure to my daughter for a history lesson when they will be on this topic. lol
    2. Mature naturalist
      17 March 2014 12: 11
      0
      Tomorrow, comrade Sibiryak!
  12. ZU-23
    ZU-23 17 March 2014 08: 54
    +7
    Russian liberals are no longer interested in something, as Peskov said the fifth nano-column, which will soon be undermined by crime and sit. It seems to me that Russia in any case will not allow NATO to gain a foothold in Ukraine, there will be a tough answer, just as the Americans have specifically rebelled against Russian missiles in Cuba, so we can recall it and return these questions to their places.
  13. mamont5
    mamont5 17 March 2014 08: 54
    +10
    Yes, an honest article.
  14. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 17 March 2014 08: 55
    +4
    Armed bandits can only be stopped by force! They consider a different attitude to be weakness and will loot, kill and plunder until the people break their backs with an iron hand! The second option is when they fulfill the task set by the "masters" they will simply not be destroyed, as in his time Mao destroyed "Red Guards" - "The Moor has done his job, the Moor must leave! So there is only one outcome for the" Maydanuts ": from here into nothingness!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 17 March 2014 09: 53
      +2
      Quote: kartalovkolya
      They consider a different attitude as weakness and will loot, kill and rob until the people break their spine with an iron hand!

      Well, Yatsenyuk, together with Avakov, has already decided: "Everyone who wants to fight for Ukraine - sign up for the guard. And just walk the streets with weapons - they will answer according to the law! Everyone"
      Yeah! And so, everything was directly handed over to him and they ran to the guard (army) to sign up! What for? When in Kiev there is still something to rob! am
      1. Alekseev
        Alekseev 17 March 2014 13: 31
        0
        Quote: Egoza
        so everything was handed over to him directly to the guard (army) and ran to sign up! What for?

        Definitely noticed! The army, the guard is a discipline, they should not give a lot of will, they should "keep an iron grip" yes
        And here the hop of impunity, and you can take prey. Great temptation, especially for young banderlazhek.
        And to pay the "cardinal's guards" on a large scale, i.e. to create a mercenary army - it is a pity for pennies.
        A lot of inexperienced pseudo-patriotic youth, who is destined for the fate of cannon fodder, will fall into such a guard.
        And the loyalty of this guard is questionable. Surely, the mercenary Americans came to guard the rabbit and K from the "revolutionary masses" who might upset. Especially if they are not well fed.
  15. alexng
    alexng 17 March 2014 08: 57
    +1
    Well? We are waiting for decisive action on this demarche of the stabbed and Maidan renegades from the Southeast, so that there is a precedent for the provision of military assistance from the side of the Eastern Brother.
  16. Kirzhak
    Kirzhak 17 March 2014 08: 58
    +4
    The overthrow of Yanukovych you meet with bewilderment. He was bad. These are no better.

    Gold words! As in the movies: "White come - rob. Red come - rob"
  17. Dyukha Siberian
    Dyukha Siberian 17 March 2014 08: 59
    +1
    everything came to a logical conclusion!
    1. Weniamin
      Weniamin 17 March 2014 10: 48
      0
      However, we are still at the beginning of the journey. angry
  18. skyil
    skyil 17 March 2014 09: 00
    +3
    Immediately clear, boiling. As for our liberties, the flag in their hands and count. And from people like Makarevich and those who are kind to him, I’m ashamed of our Intelligence, but history says; There were such people from all times, so you should not pay attention to them, but you should not lose sight of them either. My sympathy for the author and support, hold on bro!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 17 March 2014 10: 00
      0
      Quote: skyil
      so you should not pay attention to them, but you should not lose sight of them either.

      Exactly! Their rot decomposes and infects others! Time to respond to such a need! God forbid here also the brains of youth rinse!
  19. from punk
    from punk 17 March 2014 09: 00
    0
    are we with our western partners-yatsinyuk about separatism in the east. Does Saakashvili write the text for him? Or do they all have one author. Deja vu
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 17 March 2014 10: 03
      +1
      Quote: punk
      wrote to him the text of Saakashvili? or they all have one author. deja vu

      I repeat! Saakishvili is now in the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine! He was given an office there! He is an advisor to the current "government". Delighted with the Ukrainian army! He repeats: "If I had an army like yours ... then I would be that Russia ..." From here we dance!
      1. Alekseev
        Alekseev 17 March 2014 19: 08
        0
        Quote: Egoza
        I repeat! Saakishvili is now sitting in the Cabinet of Ukraine!

        Quote: Egoza
        She repeats: "If I had an army like yours ... then I would be that Russia ..."

        I do not understand... request
        Rabbit and other banderlogs should think: Mishiko brings misfortune about the army! laughing
        And they are in his office ...
  20. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 17 March 2014 09: 00
    +1
    It clings. Author +++++++++++++++++++++++++
  21. hawkeye
    hawkeye 17 March 2014 09: 04
    +5
    The article is a huge plus, the author absolutely accurately described the mood of Russian-speakers in Ukraine. It's like that!
  22. philip
    philip 17 March 2014 09: 05
    +2
    Hear Tatarin and may Mordvin who GURKIN. You're still lying that you're not Russian. RUSSIAN is not a nationality, it is a state of soul. Therefore ++++ etc.
  23. Kiliny
    Kiliny 17 March 2014 09: 07
    +19
    I am sure that the entry of the RF Armed Forces to the southeast is not far off, the situation is extremely tense, the next major provocation of the junta against the residents of the southeast and events will develop rapidly. Paralympics have ended ...
  24. Arbatov
    Arbatov 17 March 2014 09: 10
    +2
    Needless to say, the soul of the majority of Russian people is for the further reunification of Russian lands. But now it is necessary to go through a period of digestion by the Russian economy of the return of Crimea. And to assess what changes will follow in the international situation. Whatever one may say, but a small section of time, when it was possible to take the East of Ukraine with a cavalry charge, passed. Perhaps this is correct, if we recall the results of some unprepared rapid campaigns, for example, Tukhachevsky's to Poland. Or maybe not, given the "seven troubles - one answer" principle.
  25. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 17 March 2014 09: 15
    +3
    In short, let them begin to bounce so as not to look for a long time! lol
    1. Ivan Petrovich
      Ivan Petrovich 17 March 2014 09: 23
      +3
      but something they stopped jumping :) probably tired
      1. fisherman
        fisherman 17 March 2014 12: 05
        0
        You won’t be able to slap on the solder and liver
  26. papont64
    papont64 17 March 2014 09: 18
    -4
    It’s better to give them money and weapons ...
  27. Sma11
    Sma11 17 March 2014 09: 21
    +9
    We live in a Soviet country,
    Recognize German,
    Italian, Danish, Swedish
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    РџРёС € ем, РґСѓРјР ° ем, поем.

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    It's great that Russian liberals support Western Ukrainians in their right to self-determination.
    It is a pity that Russian liberals do not support Eastern Ukrainians in the same right.


    Looking at the events taking place in Ukraine and the reaction of our liberal defenders of "FREEDOM AND EQUALITY", I would like to ask them: "Gentlemen! Have you confused the Ramses?" I can understand that you are in deep opposition to the president. That you respond to all his words and body movements negative "Phew!" But in this situation, excuse the other alignment. By opposing, you are saying that you are good: P — Pђ! SѓRєSЂR ° RoRЅSЃRєRoS ... RЅR ° C † † RoSЃS,RѕRІ Ryo RіRμRЅRѕS RoRґ SЂSѓSЃSЃRєRoS ... ... Pd RґSЂSѓRіRoS RЅR ° SЂRѕRґRѕRІ, RєSЂRѕRІR ° RІS <P ± R№ RμSЃRїSЂRμRґRμR "Ryo RјR ° SЃSЃRѕRІSѓSЋ SЂRμR · RЅSЋ. РЇ РїРѕРЅРёРјР ° СЋ, СЗ С‚Рѕ РІС ‹Р · Р ° СЃРІРѕР ± РѕРґСѓ, РќРћ РљРђРљРЈР® РЎР'РћР'РћР” РЈ?
  28. Nevyatoy
    Nevyatoy 17 March 2014 09: 24
    +8
    Hey hotheads, who are calling for the introduction of troops immediately to the east of Ukraine. Cool off. On the other side are Ukrainian troops. There is no doubt. That after what was done with the army in Ukraine it’s just meat. They will not stand against the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. But which of you will be able to determine who is standing there, zapadentsy or guys called up from Donetsk or Kharkov. How the families of eastern Ukraine will perceive the zinc coffins of their children. Do they really need such fratricidal help?
    I think the FSB and the GRU should work in the first place. Why they do not help organize resistance properly. Do they work with military officers in eastern Ukraine?

    PS Honestly, I get the impression that our specialists in the east of Ukraine do not do anything special and behave like outsiders.!
    1. moremansf
      moremansf 17 March 2014 10: 34
      +1
      The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine agreed on the non-blocking of Ukrainian military units in Crimea by Russian soldiers until March 21. This was stated by the acting Minister of Defense Igor Tenyukh reporters, reports RBC-Ukraine.

      "The military units that are stationed in Crimea, namely the naval forces and the air forces, are in full alert mode," Tenyukh said.

      "Agreements have already been reached between the commander of the naval forces Rear Admiral Sergei Anatolyevich Gaiduk and the commander of the Black Sea Fleet, as well as the representative of the Deputy Minister of Defense Shoigu and the Deputy Commander of the Russian Navy that no action will be taken regarding our military units until the 21st," - said Tenyukh.
    2. Kahlan amnell
      Kahlan amnell 17 March 2014 10: 48
      +2
      Honestly, I get the impression that our specialists in eastern Ukraine do nothing special and behave like outsiders.!

      If this were obvious, then worthless to them as specialists.
    3. TekhnarMAF
      TekhnarMAF 17 March 2014 11: 11
      +2
      Nevyatoy
      Do not rush sir. The Olympiad is over, the forces of the secret services that ensure security (the work is done perfectly!) Have become free. Now you can (and should) do banderlogs! hi
    4. Alekseev
      Alekseev 18 March 2014 11: 07
      0
      Quote: NeSvyatoy
      Cool off. On the other side are Ukrainian troops.

      They have a choice: you can not stand, but sit and not interfere, as in the Crimea. Or leave the location of the parts.
      And there will be no need to carry
      Quote: NeSvyatoy
      zinc coffins of their guys.

      Quote: NeSvyatoy
      I think the FSB and the GRU should work in the first place.

      And that's for sure!
      But ... First of all, it must be clearly defined
      Quote: NeSvyatoy
      families of eastern Ukraine

      They will be passive, will not support their activists, no FSB and GRU will help.
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  30. Odysseus
    Odysseus 17 March 2014 09: 35
    +7
    Assistance in coordinating the resistance forces in the Southeast is now of key importance. They are acting well, boldly, but haphazardly.
    Identification of a group of resistance leaders, removal of their families, agreement on the sequence of their actions, financial assistance, influence on local deputies and entrepreneurs.
    If this is carried out acting on the whole Crimean scenario, then either the United States (controlling the Kiev junta) will be forced to cede the South-East without a fight, or they will order the junta to conduct a tough mopping-up operation there with the help of its gangs (national guard), which, in turn, It will be an ideal occasion for the introduction of troops and the liberation of the entire Southeast.
    PS All again with the reunification of Crimea with Russia fellow drinks
  31. Mviktor
    Mviktor 17 March 2014 09: 41
    +6
    Quote: mabuta
    The liberals are the same everywhere. In 1905, they sent Mikado congratulations on our defeat. The truth in 1917 came back to them.http: //topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/291/mjxe710.jpg


    Today, the pro-American politician, Gaidar's comrade-in-arms of Pochinok, died of the good news. Another liberator has become smaller, now we are waiting for Chubais and the rest
  32. Sibiryak13
    Sibiryak13 17 March 2014 09: 44
    +1
    So the Ukrainians should stand up against the fascist infection. And we will help.
  33. ImPerts
    ImPerts 17 March 2014 09: 46
    +9
    Liberals can not be fixed. they have their own games)))
    1. NOMADE
      NOMADE 17 March 2014 09: 59
      +3
      Wow, compromising lol
      But this, apparently not yet complete, is a "liberal" and a connoisseur of European values ​​..
      Though the aunt squeezes, but not in the air crawls a hand .. laughing
      1. Rblipetsk
        Rblipetsk 17 March 2014 13: 30
        0
        Quote: NOMADE
        Though the aunt squeezes, but not in the air crawls with a hand.

        but in vain you thought so. he is there looking for another American tranche. for there is nothing more to seek there. wassat
  34. Gardamir
    Gardamir 17 March 2014 09: 49
    +2
    Let's not confuse the 21st century and the 20th. War goes on in other ways. So hope for the tanks, but don’t be bad. Soft power and polite people.
  35. Gagarin
    Gagarin 17 March 2014 09: 52
    +8
    AUTHOR JUST A BEAUTY! + Plus!
    To write like that, NOW YOU NEED TO LIVE IN YOURSELF IN UKRAINE NOW!
  36. Elle-elle
    Elle-elle 17 March 2014 10: 04
    +3
    Quote: vladimirZ
    It is necessary to help the Russian and pro-Russian population of Southeast Ukraine (Novorossiya according to the old), determine in a referendum, like the Crimea, and reunite with RUSSIA.
    Otherwise, in Nazi Bandera Ukraine, the Russian population will inevitably face genocide and destruction. Some slogans are worth something and warn about the danger: "who does not jump that mos-kal", "Russians for knives."


    And a hundred pluses !!!
  37. Russian102RUS
    Russian102RUS 17 March 2014 10: 05
    +6
    Ukraine has the only chance of salvation (and it seems that only according to the version of the Crimea), otherwise it will be the destiny of the colony in the 21st century! True, there are already enough slaves in Europe, I don’t even know how you can be useful to Europe or the USA, they will put their bases on your land, place the Rocket, and that’s all, they don’t need you anymore!
  38. Russ69
    Russ69 17 March 2014 10: 05
    +8
    These stsuki, from ukrarmii ran into the people ...
  39. protopop
    protopop 17 March 2014 10: 11
    +3
    Great article! And the FSB and the GRU have probably been doing their job for a long time - God help them!
  40. Elle-elle
    Elle-elle 17 March 2014 10: 15
    +6
    The author is a huge plus and many thanks! I just live in the east of Ukraine. I read the article, there was a feeling that the author looked into the souls of people and understood the mood at 100%. Everything is essentially the topic. Even the mood rose that they understand us. Thank.
  41. Cossacks
    Cossacks 17 March 2014 10: 28
    +1
    I watched a rally of liberals against the war under red-black flags and was ashamed of respected cultural representatives in the past. Very similar to the clinic.
    1. Kahlan amnell
      Kahlan amnell 17 March 2014 10: 54
      0
      Very similar to the clinic.

      Yes, and is not treated. Only deportation!
    2. riding
      riding 17 March 2014 11: 13
      +2
      Their speeches were vivid, but the essence was rotten: they were not worried about Ukraine, but about their masters in the USA. Makarevich admitted with great bitterness that he understood now: he had lived his life in vain. What is bothering him? Deposits and real estate abroad? Hardly. The West needs these people, they will not offend them yet. Makarevich is not the conscience of the people, not a shout, he is incredibly far from him. He was exhausted in the struggle with his homeland - the USSR, creatively exhausted. In the new Russian Federation, its culmination was its peak
  42. Vladimir1960
    Vladimir1960 17 March 2014 10: 29
    +1
    Like any sharpie, states are encouraged to play by the rules that they set. We play by these rules, they lose. They now blow the bar on this ground in my opinion. In the near future, in violation of the rules established by them, he will accept Georgia and Ukraine in NATO. Everyone will understand that there are no more rules! A big mess will begin in the world. It's time to declare loudly about our principles and rules!
  43. redka
    redka 17 March 2014 10: 33
    0
    It's bad that the West was engaged in brainwashing in Ukraine, not Russia.
  44. ars_pro
    ars_pro 17 March 2014 10: 46
    +3
    Article +++ is true, I think Yu-V could have organized itself if only, the point is, for the total organization that took place in the west of Ukraine and was preparing, as far as is known, two or even more years before the current events had everything prepared, on the South-East neither by hearing nor by the spirit, and now when it would be possible to raise people by one or two times with the help of the media, the media, on the contrary, play a disorganizing role and even more, ideologically harmful for most ordinary citizens of South-East, who were originally for the vehicle and cooperation with the Russian Federation. Now, if all the constitutional blocs have been removed from the west of Ukraine, then on the contrary, these blocs are being hung on the citizens of South-East, and deliberately, by hook or by hook, interfere with the self-organization of the people, and there is certainly a chance of disorganization of structures that could somehow resist the invasion. that the people are self-organizing like "Zarnitsa" but only on the basis of their federal order, in the arrangement of which they see the main threat of the junta of the West. Unfortunately, even if a leader appears in the South-East and there are a lot of intelligent people, then this will be immediately noticed by the lackeys of the junta as soon as they find out about him. In order for the people and people of South-East to be correct and not from a flounder bay under a squall five-month info-attack and a complete blockade of alternative opinions, time must pass, it is this time that polite people can give us, for self-organization and establishing constitutional order in their territories with the election of people's representatives. Best regards from Kharkov
  45. Santor
    Santor 17 March 2014 10: 47
    +3
    Quote: Mazadrive
    Under the guise of C-300, the Iskanders, the Ka-52 squadron and the attack aircraft squadron from the Moscow Region were transferred to Oktyabrsky.
    In Crimea, the group was brought up to 28 thousand people.

    From Bandera expected provocations.


    The post is a provocation, the post is a provocateur, did not even indicate the source .... There is no need to bring this grouping more than those 19 there. The one who wrote this news is a layman and a provocateur. I apologize for the harshness. And "Poplar" was not seen there? Only round will confuse the Iskander launcher with the S-000 complex
  46. Dragon-y
    Dragon-y 17 March 2014 10: 54
    0
    Quote: svp67
    And now guess at one time whether you support the entry of the Russian army to the east of Ukraine.
    And that's the big question ...? Since there are a lot of factors that must be taken into account, in particular, and "ours are beaten" ... In any case, "misinformation" about the "seizure of Crimea" by Russian troops

    caused a big surge of patriotism,

    How long has our special forces been riding Hummers? Maybe they brought the trophy from Ossetia? :)
  47. parusnik
    parusnik 17 March 2014 11: 16
    +1
    Everything should take its course ..
  48. ars_pro
    ars_pro 17 March 2014 12: 02
    0
    At the same time, Yu-V's hands are untied, since Yu-V knows that Russia is behind him, therefore, in principle, you are not afraid to go and liberate Kiev, the main thing is to tighten the military, only as far as I understand, Yu-V must be the first to act, God forbid that everything would be fine, ready to go in the second wave, at the same time there will be time to train, if the camps open) !!!
  49. shelva
    shelva 17 March 2014 12: 33
    +1
    The East needs to be squeezed out - gradually, but until the very West, clearing the territory of the Nazis along the way. Then everyone (except the Westerners) will be happy.
  50. Santor
    Santor 17 March 2014 12: 33
    0
    Quote: ars_pro
    the main thing is to tighten the military,


    You saw the video above how armored vehicles flooded people ... just like rams they will trample to the East ... I’m just afraid that I’ll have to not only shoot.