Pentagon: US and France will coordinate the review of military cooperation programs with the Russian Federation

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Pentagon: US and France will coordinate the review of military cooperation programs with the Russian Federation

The United States and France agreed to coordinate the review of their programs in the field of military cooperation with Russia in connection with the situation around Ukraine. This was announced on Saturday by Pentagon spokesman Rear-Admiral John Kirby following a telephone conversation between the defense ministers of the two countries, Chuck Hagel and Jean-Yves Le Drian.

They "reaffirmed solidarity within NATO and discussed the need to continue close cooperation between the United States and France in order to support the allies in Central and Eastern Europe," said a spokesman for the US defense department. The ministers also discussed the revision of bilateral military cooperation with Russia in their countries and agreed that high-ranking US and French officials would continue close contacts on this issue in the coming days.

Earlier, the Pentagon announced that it was suspending military cooperation programs with Russia because of the events around Ukraine. France has not yet taken such a step, but on Saturday President Francois Hollande told reporters that this could be done in the future if Moscow does not change its approach to the situation in Ukraine.

Russian President Vladimir Putin, answering 4 March to journalists ’questions at his Novo-Ogaryovo residence, said that Russia's actions are based on international law and bilateral obligations - unlike the United States, which" clearly formulate geopolitical goals for themselves, and then they drag the rest of the world under them. " Answering the question about the threat of sanctions from the West, he noted that "those who are going to introduce them should think about the consequences of sanctions against Russia." "Damage in the global world will be mutual, and threats against Russia are counterproductive and harmful," the president warned.

Deputy Defense Minister Anatoly Antonov, in turn, said that the Defense Ministry had taken note of the decision of the Pentagon to suspend contacts between the United States and Russia.

"We paid attention to this statement. However, as well as to the statements of high-ranking military representatives of some other states," he said. "We presume that any interaction, especially through the military departments, can only be built on a mutually beneficial basis, the principle of strict parity. With this approach there can be no winners and losers," added Antonov. “We believe that as a result of the military’s communication, trust increases, certain intentions and actions become understandable. In the end, each other’s actions become more predictable, and the security of states increases as a result,” the deputy head of the Russian department said. “As for the decision of the Pentagon, this is the choice of the American side. We take note of it,” he said.

In addition, the Deputy Minister stressed that Russia fully fulfills its obligations in the field of disarmament, non-proliferation and arms control, enshrined in international agreements. "As for the existing agreements in the field of arms control, we intend to continue to fulfill international obligations and to continue the practice of voluntary transparency to the extent that it will be in our interests," said Antonov.
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  1. mad
    +61
    16 March 2014 11: 22
    That even Mistral will not be sold to us? We do not mind, just return the money and the penalty. Serdyukov and Co. concluded a deal not on terms favorable to Russia.
    1. platitsyn70
      +60
      16 March 2014 11: 29
      That even Mistral will not be sold to us? We do not mind, just return the money and the penalty. Serdyukov and Co. concluded a deal not on favorable terms for Russia
      Mains will be sold and gas will be bought just show off like we are the masters, and you are slaves, and we bite them cookies. sign a contract with China for gas, let's see how they will sing, Hamburg males.
      1. +24
        16 March 2014 11: 39
        just show off like we are the masters, and you are lackeys

        No, it’s just that they decided to scare the hedgehog naked. Sing, but it didn’t work out laughing
        1. +9
          16 March 2014 12: 08
          how else the photo of "Vladivastok" was not eaten in the headlines with the inscription-Russians in france. Europe wake up !!
          1. Alex 241
            +17
            16 March 2014 14: 09
            Quote: punk
            inscription Russians in france. wake up europe !!

            Sicily Area of ​​Russian sailors!
        2. +29
          16 March 2014 12: 21
          Hooray! You give medium-range missiles, S-300 to Syria, Iraq, Cuba, North Korea, etc., an increase in strategic offensive arms !!!!!!!!!!!
          1. +8
            16 March 2014 13: 10
            Quote: GreatRussia
            You give medium-range missiles, C-300 to Syria, Iraq, Cuba, North Korea, etc., an increase in strategic offensive arms

            Plus, joint accelerated development with the Chinese based on RSD and RDD ballistic anti-ship missiles. And the aircraft based on the scramjet. Also at an accelerated pace - supersonic PAK-DA ... Two autonomous space reconnaissance and target designation systems ...
            1. +11
              16 March 2014 13: 16
              But this is not necessary. It is undesirable to reinforce China with such toys. How much more time will Beijing be ready to cooperate with us? Yes, and China’s habit is known to copy foreign weapons at home, and not only under its own brand, getting good money for it.
              1. +4
                16 March 2014 13: 21
                Quote: Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
                But this is not necessary.

                Man!
                Has the liberoid come to minus?
                If we are already doing this with China, your disadvantages will not hurt !!!! am
              2. +3
                16 March 2014 15: 05
                The Han worldview that the Celestial Empire is the center of the universe resembles the American conviction of its exclusiveness, so you should always be on the lookout for the Chinese regarding military-technical cooperation. They are allies as long as they themselves need it. It is important that you always need.
            2. +2
              16 March 2014 16: 17
              Why do you need to cooperate with China? Likebes ...

              Events in Ukraine in terms of strategic intelligence
              CONCEPTUAL AUTHORITY:
              - about the need for a "Military Union with China", for what, for what theater of operations?
              - Ukraine, what is happening. What will happen to Ukraine?
              - Ukraine sunk into a great war. Where?
              - Crimea is the new Khazaria.
              - What are the Jews afraid of? And what are they shouting about.

              Details (2 hours) -
            3. +1
              16 March 2014 16: 22
              Quote: Rus2012
              Plus, joint accelerated development with the Chinese based on RSD and RDD ballistic anti-ship missiles. And the aircraft based on the scramjet. Also at an accelerated pace - supersonic PAK-DA ... Two autonomous space reconnaissance and target designation systems ...

              With the Chinese, nothing serious to develop together is not worth it! They abstained in the UN Security Council vote on a resolution put forward by the United States against a referendum in Crimea. And we put Veto!
              1. +1
                16 March 2014 17: 31
                CHINA IS INTERESTED IN SANCTIONS -... TYPE - HOSPITAL- HOMES - TURN TO ME BEFORE ...
                1. 0
                  16 March 2014 17: 52
                  Quote: ehomenkov
                  CHINA IS INTERESTED IN SANCTIONS -... TYPE - HOSPITAL- HORIZON - TURN TO ME BEFORE.

                  They are interested in our military technologies, and in our market, for their cheap and low-quality consumer goods, as well as in our energy carriers. But they are hardly interested in our prosperity. Therefore, one must be friendly with them ..
          2. platitsyn70
            +4
            16 March 2014 14: 41
            Hooray! You give medium-range missiles, S-300 to Syria, Iraq, Cuba, North Korea, etc., an increase in strategic offensive arms !!!!!!!!!!!
            Satan to modernize and on duty.
            1. platitsyn70
              +5
              16 March 2014 14: 45
              Guys, we are all so kind, if the states sneeze we don’t throw their hats over, but we’ll forget that they will choke.
              1. dmitrij.blyuz
                +5
                16 March 2014 14: 56
                Andrey is right! hi Something on the site is hatred. But it doesn’t thrive. It’s quite sensible guys hanging out here. It’s quite adequate and sensible opinions. I support you. I’m like that! hi
                1. +1
                  16 March 2014 16: 16
                  Well, throw your hats, do not wave a saber! what this can lead to - can be seen from our history of the beginning of the Great Patriotic War ... when some were also going to hang out in Berlin in a week! but in reality something quite different happened. time will tell the prospect of a relationship! after the "compulsion to the world" the Western world was also furious! and nothing - reason prevailed! understood what's what! it is not for nothing that they say - do not wish another what you do not wish for yourself! don't dig a hole for another ... etc., Europe will figure out who is closer to it - the overseas states (which they themselves already understand, yes - power is leaving the hands!), or Russia is a neighbor, a partner! we will see! drinks
          3. +4
            16 March 2014 14: 49
            GreatRussia
            "Hurray! Give me medium-range missiles, S-300 to Syria, Iraq, Cuba, North Korea, etc., increase in strategic offensive arms !!!!!!!!!!!"

            About North Korea you are in vain, only gas and food can be given to them, and then, as humanitarian aid. Or do you think like Americans - the enemy of my enemy is my friend? Such friends - enemies are not necessary.
          4. +4
            16 March 2014 16: 05
            It’s not necessary to give these missiles to Syria, Iraq, Cuba, North Korea. ONLY RUSSIA, not even the CSTO allies, but Russia, should have the best weapons, the most powerful and most advanced! It’s enough just to defend our Black Sea Fleet to there they sailed, stood and were Russian warships, and not NATO, to rearm the Russian Army, and within the framework of the CSTO and CRRF, to increase and increase the military power of Russia, to shoot all terrorists and bandits, thieves. And not to surrender to Syria, but to defend, and -To CSTO take and place there-the Russian military base, with PV .
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        4. Stalker
          +20
          16 March 2014 13: 32
          No, it’s just that they decided to scare the hedgehog naked. Sing, but it didn’t work out


          A neighbor said:
          - I went out in the morning to take the child to kindergarten, I look - a man drags a car tire. Well, I think it started ... belay lol
          1. +5
            16 March 2014 15: 00
            Quote: Stalker
            I went out in the morning to take the child to kindergarten, I look - a man drags a car tire. Well, I think it started

            Thank you for the warning ... Tomorrow I wanted to pick it up at the dump too - my wife insists - "make a swan" in the country ...
            1. +4
              16 March 2014 15: 21
              Maidan - the swan lake? wassat
        5. +7
          16 March 2014 15: 51
          Of course. We’ve found something to scare. Putin, how to block this fucking Europe, everything will be completely fucked up. What is in it? -Yes nifiga! Military cooperation, let them shove it further and deeper. Russia has EVERYTHING, ALL resources, the entire periodic table, wide open spaces, fields, forests, lakes and the strongest and best Army in the world, well, absolutely everything. Russia-EVERYTHING can do it yourself, and feed the Army and arm it to the teeth and up and with the best and most powerful weapon. So all these sanctions of theirs will be issued to them by their own side and ass! The USA can expect a collapse of the dollar.
          Russia-ALREADY should be re-equipped with the Army, and ALREADY should be the Eurasian Union! And all the advanced technologies, work for the Army and the country, and for the people. Russia should be better in everything! Because she’s already better in everything — she has absolutely EVERYTHING. I don’t understand the fucking bureaucrats who still don’t understand. There is one superpower — this is Russia, the Empire of Goodness! Love, Peace, Good, Reliability and Protection is Russia, the Empire of Good! Everyone loves Russia, and they are striving with all their might for Russia in an alliance. Here it is.
      2. platitsyn70
        +4
        16 March 2014 15: 31
        WASHINTON, March 16. The resolution on Ukraine can be adopted at the UN General Assembly, where Russia will not be able to block the document. The representative of the United Kingdom to the United Nations, Michael Lyall, did not rule out such a scenario. According to him, the discussion at the GA could take place on the initiative of Ukraine.
        Other permanent members of the UN Security Council also made statements after the Russian Federation blocked the draft Crimean resolution. US Permanent Representative Samantha Power said that “in accordance with the UN Charter, Russia has the right to veto a resolution in the Security Council. However, she cannot veto the truth. ”
        all the settlers will not calm down; everything is possible for them, but you cannot return your native Crimea to us as a lady;
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        2. +1
          16 March 2014 17: 15
          Yes, let them bark! It’s just that they don’t have anything else left, and they’re yapping!
          And the point itself is already with microns. They know that now they have set a precedent for themselves in their countries. Well, rightly so. Wait!
      3. +1
        16 March 2014 15: 35
        in light of the cessation of military cooperation, not to let NATO observers restore production of Satan or more modern types.
      4. +1
        16 March 2014 15: 35
        in light of the cessation of military cooperation, not to let NATO observers restore production of Satan or more modern types.
      5. +3
        16 March 2014 15: 43
        Quote: platitsyn70
        just show off like we are the masters, and you are lackeys

        It seems to me that they have already reconciled, with the annexation of Crimea and with the subsequent annexation of Ukraine, or with its complete transition to the sphere of Russian influence. They just want to have something for themselves in this situation. They trade as they can.
    2. Tumbleweed
      +23
      16 March 2014 11: 34
      Quote: mad
      That even Mistral will not be sold to us? We do not mind, just return the money and the penalty.

      That would be a trick ... I would even raise 100 gr for Serdyukov’s health, though the second toast would be for him to sit well and long on the bunks wassat
      And in general
      Poll: French and Germans do not want to see Ukraine in the European Union

      16 March 2014, 09: 42

      More than half of the inhabitants of France and Germany spoke out against Ukraine’s joining the European Union, it follows from the results of a sociological survey conducted by the French Institute of IFOP for the newspaper Le Figaro.

      Taken here: http://vz.ru/news/2014/3/16/677271.html
      It looks like the slogan "Ukraine is Europe" applies only to parts of Ukraine winked
    3. +6
      16 March 2014 11: 36
      You can file an international court like Iran. The amount will be much higher than the penalty.
    4. W1950
      +6
      16 March 2014 11: 36
      That even Mistral will not be sold to us?


      Where are they going to go? They are just like fleas, they just bite and there is no damage from them.
      1. +16
        16 March 2014 12: 40
        Quote: W1950
        Where are they going to go? They are just like fleas, they just bite and there is no damage from them.

        Well what are you - we must show how important their opinion is to us! In short - let them stay on the line :).
        1. +22
          16 March 2014 12: 42
          Russia yesterday announced a moratorium on all imports through Lithuania (and this is 80% of their budget). American dogs warned of sanctions! laughing
          Source: http://rus.delfi.ee/daily/business/sbyvayutsya-hudshie-prognozy-rossiya-blokirue

          t-postavki-prodovolstviya-cherez-litvu.d? id = 68236675
    5. +25
      16 March 2014 11: 57
      This is their agony. Cooperation through the MO was beneficial to them first of all. Well, the Mistrals ... We will place orders of the Navy at our shipyards (by the way, construction of a new shipyard, probably for aircraft carriers, is already starting in Murmansk), for us these are new jobs, and for France their reduction. Besides I hope, at a favorable development of events in Ukraine, can Nikolaev shipyards be connected? bully
      1. +14
        16 March 2014 13: 39
        Quote: maxcor1974
        This is their agony.

        But what they catch Katsapsky scouts! With a direct indication - see http://www.sbu.gov.ua/sbu/control/uk/publish/article?art_id=122714&cat_id=39574

        A Russian comment from Lekuha? http://www.odnako.org/blogs/doloy-ministrov-gomoseksualistov-kreativnaya-pomoshc
        h-kievu-dlya-prodolzheniya-revolyucii / You can write.

        And a chic reader comment: At the same time, the scout, swearing dirty, sipped vodka from a special shoulder samovar, and the bear thoughtfully chewed the carcass of the freedom fighter of Ukraine ...
        1. +3
          16 March 2014 16: 02
          During the treatment, did Lyashko have a death with a scythe behind him? What is behind him? laughing
        2. +2
          16 March 2014 17: 10
          But what they catch Katsapsky scouts!

          BAND OF IDEAS!
          military unit 65384 - 17 omsbr (separate motorized rifle brigade), former 70 Motorized Rifle Regiment 42 MRSD. Exploration GRU, fuck!
          2nd photo - "birch" handbag (how old is that color?), Food with symbols wassat , H. Pr .. what kind of certificate (instead of the standard army), tinted soldier-like shops (though not numbered laughing as in a pyramid) ....
          "And nothing - neither the PPSh, nor the Budyonnovka, nor the parachute dragging behind him, gave him a Russian scout ..."
          1. +1
            16 March 2014 20: 39
            Quote: Sacmagon
            2nd photo - "birch" handbag (how old is that color?), Food with symbols



            I laugh nimaga
        3. +2
          16 March 2014 18: 05
          Quote: Cherdak
          But what they catch Katsapsky scouts!

          As a real scout, on a mission, he took with him a certificate, a civilian and foreign passport and a certificate of completion of demolition courses (well, you never know, but it will come in handy) laughing
        4. vitos69
          0
          16 March 2014 20: 41
          this certificate can be found and ordered on the Internet Yes
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    7. jjj
      +5
      16 March 2014 11: 58
      Apparently, the Americans hinted to the French that Russia can be thrown and still make some money on it
      1. +6
        16 March 2014 13: 33
        How the Yankees twist their tail ......
        .... Graham Allison is director of the Belfer Center for Science and International Relations at Harvard University's Kennedy School.
        1. A sincere recognition ... .. "Eastern Ukraine has been an integral part of the territories of the Moscow Empire for more than three centuries.
        The current borders of Ukraine are, on the one hand, artificial and, on the other, random. Sevastopol was built by order of Catherine the Great as the main base of the Russian Navy. If Nikita Khrushchev had not made a symbolic gesture by changing the administrative status of Crimea, the latter would not have been on the side of Russia rather than on the side of Ukraine after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. Now the Ukrainian economy is in decline, and a serious threat of default looms over it. Politically, Ukraine is one of the last places in the rankings due to the scale of corruption and inefficiency. "
        2. American proposal .. for the future of Ukraine .. or thank you "OWNER for taking care of our future" ..
        “The best way out of this crisis could be a“ Belgian solution, ”that is, internationally guaranteed neutrality of Ukraine
        ... Given the current situation in Ukraine, internationally recognized neutrality of this state within its current borders would be a universal victory. Countries must agree that Ukraine cannot become a member of NATO, or the European Union, or their weak analogue offered by Russia, that it will lease a naval base to Russia for a period of 100 years, that it will internationalize gas pipelines through which Russian gas is supplied to European consumers that it guarantees minority rights in accordance with European standards ”

        http://inosmi.ru/world/20140316/218593613.html#ixzz2w7FmVMmr
        .and note a word about the revival of nationalism .. Here the Yankees are blind, deaf and dumb .. Here are American interests ..
        1. +2
          16 March 2014 15: 48
          But should we give the GTS for them beautiful eyes?
      2. +4
        16 March 2014 13: 38
        Quote: jjj
        Apparently, the Americans hinted to the French that Russia can be thrown and still make some money on it

        They won’t be able to earn money. If the contract is broken, you will have to return the money and pay a penalty. Plus huge reputation losses. Who after that will deal with them?
    8. +10
      16 March 2014 12: 02
      Mistral is generally a confusing situation. We didn’t so much want to buy as we ourselves would learn to build. As a result, the bow (or stern) part of the hull was built in St. Petersburg and purely with our money. Now what? Saw the case in half? I’m afraid that the Mistrals will be completed, but there will be no BIOS on them, and since part of the money has been paid, they will begin to blackmail us.
      1. +6
        16 March 2014 12: 12
        The terms of the contract must not be violated. stop All equipment must be installed.
        1. Ivan Russky
          +17
          16 March 2014 12: 31
          Sorry, not the topic. That's what I just found on the internet.
          Transcarpathian Rusyns turned to Putin
          Open appeal to the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin

          Dear Mr. President of the Russian Federation!


          We appeal to you - the President of a great country, a country - who has contractual obligations with our country, has not been and is not committed to the colonial enslavement of Ukraine, but on the contrary, to its restoration, stability and unity. We always honor a very high level of civilization values ​​(education, science, employment, stability and social benefits for the Ruthenians) that were brought by the fraternal Russian people to Subcarpathian Russia in the autumn of 1944, and destroyed in Ukraine over the last 22 of the year. The urgency of this Appeal is caused by the illegal seizure of power by the nationalists of Galicia and in the areas adjacent to Transcarpathia. At present, the danger of the disorder of the Galician nationalists is hanging over Transcarpathia, as the last stronghold of the Russian World. The deputies of the Transcarpathian Regional Council, bought by the clan of the pro-Gulf Nazis Balog, voted 29 on January 2014 of the year for the abolition of the legal authority of Ukraine in the Transcarpathian region. Officially, the current Ukrainian government and the Constitution of Ukraine since lunch 29 January 2014, ceased to exist under the Carpathians and the indestructible autonomous status of Subcarpathian Rus automatically comes into force. Obviously, the power in Transcarpathia seized by force, under the guise of "carrying democratic European values ​​and transformations."

          Here is the link to the whole text
          http://www.e-news.in.ua/in-ukraine/4176-zakarpatskie-rusiny-obratilis-k-putinu.h
          tml
          1. +2
            16 March 2014 12: 43
            Ivan, it’s impossible to go to this resource .....
            where did he take it?
            exactly there?
            / / /
            went ... a step higher.
            1. Ivan Russky
              +4
              16 March 2014 12: 50
              there he took, the newspaper E-news.in.ua
            2. +1
              16 March 2014 17: 16
              Ivan, it’s impossible to go to this resource .....
              where did he take it?
              Here is the link:
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_g9bJ40p4A
          2. Ivan Russky
            +2
            16 March 2014 16: 47
            And here is what a friend of mine from Khmelnitsky region wrote to my wife in classmates now, I quote *** Urgently tell everyone you can. In our sewing factory, large quantities of Russian military uniforms are being sewn, a provocation is being prepared with the participation of disguised children from the right sector ***
          3. +3
            16 March 2014 16: 47
            I’ve talked for a long time and again I can’t leave Transcarpathia! OUR there!
            1. 0
              16 March 2014 18: 09
              Quote: Saratovets
              I talked for a long time and I will repeat again

              It would be more correct: "We, Alexander IV, affirm ..." laughing
      2. +2
        16 March 2014 15: 23
        Anyone can declare the West, but when it comes to money, there is only one principle - nothing personal, only business.
        For us, money is a means, and for them, a goal.
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    10. +6
      16 March 2014 12: 34
      Quote: mad
      That even Mistral will not be sold to us?

      Let it be to you! The French are of course friends with the USers, BUT!
      "Friendship is friendship, and tobacco is apart!" They will not break the deal on the Mistrals: it is both money and jobs. And in conditions of stagnation, governments are very sensitive to the social well-being of the people. So have a drink ... they can, expressing NATO solidarity, but they will move the wallet away from the Yankees so that they don’t get in there.
      1. +6
        16 March 2014 13: 16
        Correct if I'm wrong, but the shipyards where Vladivostok and Sevastopol are being built belong to the South Korean Hand, although they are located in France ...

        The Republic of Korea, although a vassal of states, but it did not say anything about sanctions and is unlikely to say (they also claim to Senkaku Islands) ...

        And the chaebol "Hand" will not miss its benefits and don't care what Hollande thinks about this ...
    11. +10
      16 March 2014 13: 47
      Our providers jam the Russian sites, the Russians stay with us.
    12. +11
      16 March 2014 15: 31
      Medal table Winter Paralympic Games in Sochi 2014
      1 Russia 30 28 22 80
      2 Germany 9 5 1 15
      3 Canada 7 2 7 16
      4 Ukraine 5 9 11 25
      5 France 5 3 4 12
      ..
      8 USA 2 7 9 18
      ...
      10 United Kingdom 1 3 2 6

      .... so where is the welfare state ??????? And then: "sanctions, sanctions ...."
      With Victory, Russia !!!!!
    13. +1
      16 March 2014 19: 18
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zLGxbwXDxX4
      1. +1
        16 March 2014 19: 53
        I recommend ... I cried ...
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPAWsCMTiCM
  2. +5
    16 March 2014 11: 23
    that they will harm less or the nose in our affairs will cease to poke
  3. +3
    16 March 2014 11: 23
    The main thing is that the construction of "Sevastopol" and "Vladivostok" does not slow down. But I think France itself is not interested.
    1. +19
      16 March 2014 11: 30
      Quote: Duke
      The main thing is that the construction of "Sevastopol" and "Vladivostok" does not slow down. But I think France itself is not interested.

      But WE ARE INTERESTED. You can’t even imagine WHICH forfeit we can demand from them on the INTERNATIONAL court ... Yes, these ships to us in general, almost for nothing can get ...
      1. +3
        16 March 2014 11: 35
        I agree with you.
      2. +2
        16 March 2014 11: 35
        Quote: svp67
        But WE ARE INTERESTED. You can’t even imagine WHICH forfeit we can demand from them on the INTERNATIONAL court ... Yes, these ships to us in general, almost for nothing can get ...

        If the ships fall under the embargo, then no court in the world will return them to Russia, by the way, money will not be returned either.
        1. +9
          16 March 2014 11: 58
          and the Cossacks didn’t walk around Paris for a long time bully
          1. -2
            16 March 2014 13: 04
            Quote: niki233
            and the Cossacks didn’t walk around Paris for a long time bully

            Circus? Seriously, your threat is empty, and if they go for a walk, then only after obtaining a Schengen visa ...
            1. +12
              16 March 2014 13: 24
              Excuse me, can I ask a question ?? And many of our soldiers had a European visa in 1944-1945 ?? hi
              1. +1
                16 March 2014 14: 14
                Quote: f.lourens
                Excuse me, can I ask a question ?? And many of our soldiers had a European visa in 1944-1945 ??

                Excuse me, how many Soviet soldiers walked around Paris in 1945?
                1. +4
                  16 March 2014 15: 10
                  They were in Berlin and Vienna.
                2. 0
                  16 March 2014 20: 06
                  Quote: Nayhas
                  and how many Soviet soldiers walked around Paris in 1945?

                  I don't know the soldier, the officers easily traveled from Germany to Paris "for the weekend"!
          2. +1
            16 March 2014 15: 33
            niki233
            and the Cossacks didn’t walk around Paris for a long time bully

            Is it time to remind? bully
        2. +7
          16 March 2014 12: 02
          The embargo is a double-edged weapon: all property of their companies in Russia (Renault, etc.) may fall under it. Yes, the Mistrals didn’t buy on an advance payment, they won’t get just money, that's all. They will also have to spend money on the disposal of the constructed buildings if some do not buy them.
          1. -1
            16 March 2014 13: 11
            Quote: maxcor1974
            The embargo is a double-edged weapon: all property of their companies in Russia (Renault, etc.) may fall under it.

            So at them politicians are not particularly dependent on companies. For political reasons, Europe lost the billion-dollar arms market of China and nothing ...
            1. Aleksandr65
              +5
              16 March 2014 14: 38
              "What's good for General Motors is good for America." Is it really unfamiliar?
              1. dmitrij.blyuz
                +4
                16 March 2014 14: 42
                "What is good for Perm motors" is yes! Although their "DM" are smart guys. The same can be said about "Praite-Whitney"! Dvigatelisty-mother do not worry!
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            3. +1
              16 March 2014 15: 51
              So good, their market was-will be ours!
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        4. solar2304
          +24
          16 March 2014 12: 02
          Yes, indeed with the introduction of EMBARGO, a refund is not carried out until it is withdrawn.
          BUT:
          1. The value of the contract for the supply of 2 ships is estimated at 1,2–1,6 billion dollars (with associated landing delivery vehicles). The survival of the shipyard, the well-being of more than 1 thousand workers (French citizens) depends on this contract. But soon there will be elections ...
          2. Although the termination of the contract is sensitive for Russia, for many years it will close the topic of financing the supply of foreign weapons and redirect these funds to our defense industry. And is it important!!!
          1. +6
            16 March 2014 12: 47
            Even if they give us the empty building of the Mistral (or don't give it back), they will be worse off. The business reputation will be tarnished. All sorts of "Papuans" simply may not go to them, and so on. because they are afraid to lose their already not too much money. What if the "big brother" overseas will think that they are oppressive dictators. laughing Sincerely.
          2. +4
            16 March 2014 16: 12
            Quote: soln2304
            Although the contract break is sensitive for Russia, for many years it will close the topic of financing the supply of foreign weapons

            Yes ... and how many copies were broken around Mistral by some civilians ... fellow : landing or strike and landing and hospital and, and, and ... It turned out that not at all.
            Let us know do not hell to get involved with NATO members and American singers (stinkers) in such defense matters. And Serdyukov must be planted!
            Yes, the sanctions are very scanty, but they are not critical.
            The government needs to wisely and fairly quickly reorient itself to Asia. At the same time, behaving as pragmatically as possible in Europe.
            The principle is you to me, I tell you nothing personal. Do not want gas? We have to abandon cars and something else from Germany. Replace them with Koreans or Japs. How much less Russian gas will be consumed, so fewer German goods. And as for the different EU mongrels, is it not better to just close customs for reconstruction so that neither banks are sour cream here, nor a ton of cargo to the Baltic ports. They say that sanctions cause considerable damage to the Russian treasury, it is not profitable to maintain customs. request
            In general, many can spoil. We have a huge trump card, which is not the 20-30 years of the 20th century. Asia is on the rise and economic blockade is not possible by definition.
            Yes, a decrease in the export of metals, coal and other things can be fully compensated by developing grandiose ruble infrastructure projects within Russia.
        5. +6
          16 March 2014 12: 12
          Quote: Nayhas
          If the ships fall under the embargo, then no court in the world will return them to Russia, by the way, money will not be returned either.

          Well, then, there will be a reciprocal embargo and under it, too, it will be possible not to return, not buy, not sell and confiscate.
          1. +3
            16 March 2014 15: 41
            Given our trade surplus plus the export of capital, the Northern Sea Route and the land route from Europe to Asia, who will lose more? ...
        6. +7
          16 March 2014 12: 20
          Quote: Nayhas
          Quote: svp67
          But WE ARE INTERESTED. You can’t even imagine WHICH forfeit we can demand from them on the INTERNATIONAL court ... Yes, these ships to us in general, almost for nothing can get ...

          If the ships fall under the embargo, then no court in the world will return them to Russia, by the way, money will not be returned either.

          This court is called the International Court of Arbitration. A precedent can be seen in Iran’s lawsuit against Russia for the supply of five S-300 divisions. The result is not in our favor.
        7. +2
          16 March 2014 15: 32
          Nayhas
          ...
          "If the ships fall under the embargo, then no court in the world will return them to Russia, the money, by the way, will not be returned either."

          A Russian court can, and then you can arrest it at any port not belonging to Western countries or, simply, at sea.
          1. 0
            16 March 2014 20: 54
            Quote: PENZYAC
            "If the ships fall under the embargo, then no court in the world will return them to Russia


            What do you think, how many of our ships sail under the Russian flag and how many are registered in Lisbon?
        8. +2
          16 March 2014 17: 00
          the embargo can only be imposed by the UN Security Council and we have the right to "veto"
        9. +3
          16 March 2014 17: 17
          Quote: Nayhas
          Quote: svp67
          But WE ARE INTERESTED. You can’t even imagine WHICH forfeit we can demand from them on the INTERNATIONAL court ... Yes, these ships to us in general, almost for nothing can get ...

          If the ships fall under the embargo, then no court in the world will return them to Russia, by the way, money will not be returned either.

          Nonsense is complete, who imposes an embargo?
          1. +1
            16 March 2014 18: 12
            Quote: poquello
            Nonsense is complete, who imposes an embargo?

            No difference. It seems that the time has come when Russia "puts" on those who impose an embargo.
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        11. +2
          16 March 2014 17: 46
          Quote: Nayhas
          If the ships fall under the embargo, then no court in the world will return them to Russia, by the way, money will not be returned either.

          We’ll wait and see ... There are a lot of legal subtleties that the West ALREADY VIOLATED ...
      3. +10
        16 March 2014 12: 52
        Quote: svp67
        But WE ARE INTERESTED ...

        in the speedy receipt of the ships we ordered. Euros, dollars, rubles - they don’t go to sea and they don’t solve problems there, like ships.
        Of course, money is needed, but ships are more important now.
        1. +1
          16 March 2014 17: 53
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          Of course, money is needed, but ships are more important now.

          It all depends on our diplomats and lawyers, you can get both of these ... That is, the same ships, but cheaper ...
  4. +9
    16 March 2014 11: 25
    Yes, we do not need their cooperation. How can you cooperate with them when they have a stone against us in their bosom.
    1. +1
      16 March 2014 12: 15
      Quote: Athenogen
      when they have a sinus stone against us.

      Which is likely to be the tombstone for them.
    2. +7
      16 March 2014 13: 23
      Quote: Athenogen
      Yes, we do not need their cooperation.

      It turns out NEEDED.
      According to the results of the 9 months of 2013, the main article of French exports to Russia was nuclear reactors and equipment (14,8% - 0,88 billion euros).
      At the 2 place are aircraft and spacecraft (14,37% - 0,86 billion euros).
      The 3 place is occupied by pharmaceutical products (10,66%, volume 0,64 billion euros). Further:
      - machinery and equipment (9,04% - 0,54 billion euros),
      - means of land transport (6,34% - 0,38 billion euros),
      According to the results of 9 months of 2013
      - 85,83% of the value of France’s imports from Russia amounted to mineral fuel, oil and petroleum products (6,99 billion euros).
      - inorganic chemistry products (2,56% - 0,21 billion euros).
      - ferrous metals (1,61% - 0,13 billion euros),
      - fertilizers (1,27% - 0,10 billion euros),
      - aluminum and products from it (1,23% - 0,10 billion euros),
      At 6 place - aircraft and spacecraft (share of 1,21%, volume of 0,10 billion euros, growth in supplies by 204,88%).
      For 12 months (from November 2012 to October 2013) Among the countries - the main foreign trade partners of France, Russia took the 10 place with a share of 1,88%.
      http://www.ved.gov.ru/exportcountries/fr/fr_ru_relations/fr_ru_trade/
      1. +4
        16 March 2014 13: 46
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        It turns out NEEDED.


        It is about military cooperation. If they scare us with "Mistral" then let them take us, and return the money.
        And as regards trade cooperation, they are silent here, it is profitable for them to trade with Russia.
  5. ra3eJIeBog
    +3
    16 March 2014 11: 26
    In addition, the Deputy Minister emphasized that Russia fully fulfills its obligations in the field of disarmament, non-proliferation and arms control, as embodied in international agreements.

    I doubt that the West is fulfilling them either.
  6. +8
    16 March 2014 11: 27
    they forgot that 60% of the cargo for NATO troops in Afghanistan is delivered through Russia. close the sky and that's it
  7. +6
    16 March 2014 11: 28
    It’s completely intimidating ... Is it really so possible? fool How are we going to disappear without the Mistral? How to drink to give. Fuck you!
  8. +1
    16 March 2014 11: 28
    What cooperation with a potential adversary can be !? And ... with them.
  9. +10
    16 March 2014 11: 29
    Hollande the noble Musketeer ... leads the direction on all fronts: Africa, the improvement of gays, female affairs ...
  10. +2
    16 March 2014 11: 29
    Let the Mistrals build vseravno money after.
    1. +2
      16 March 2014 11: 38
      Quote: Womb
      Let the Mistrals build vseravno money after.

      Yes, of course, the money has long been transferred, otherwise they would not have been built ...
  11. +9
    16 March 2014 11: 30
    The cessation of cooperation in the military sphere is simply necessary. There is nothing to feed the military-industrial complex of NATO with Russian orders. And the most important thing is to liquidate the US base near Ulyanovsk.
    1. +3
      16 March 2014 13: 33
      Quote: Bakht
      The cessation of cooperation in the military sphere is simply necessary. There is nothing to feed the military-industrial complex of NATO with Russian orders.

      See the structure of export-import above. Well, as for cooperation, I will say one thing: it would not be profitable - they would not buy the element base, thermal imagers, BIUS and other crap that we do not have yet. By the way, YuSers also buy space technologies in France, use the world's best aerial reconnaissance satellites, and so on. And recently we placed an order for 1500 high-precision long-range missile systems. Does this give any idea to an "expert" on international military-technical cooperation?
  12. +7
    16 March 2014 11: 32
    NATO is a useless union, purely with political slogans. In the event of a greater conflict, they will begin to crumble like a house of cards, as there is no unity of opinion, and everyone wants to play a key role in this association.
    NATO needs cooperation with Russia in order to control our armaments; NATO did not bother us anywhere.
    1. +7
      16 March 2014 13: 41
      Quote: Sergg
      NATO needs cooperation with Russia in order to

      Russia is collaborating with NATO to influence the mindsets of Europeans. So that they receive information about us and our intentions first-hand, and not through a crooked staff mirror. Then, we continue to grind the thought that Europe is for Europeans! And there is nothing for the States to do here. Germany is our new European leader! It contains the EU, it is able to contain the EuroNATO.
      This is well understood by the USers, therefore they are also against our contacts with the Europeans, rightly believing that in this way our positions are strengthened and weakened.
      1. 0
        16 March 2014 14: 59
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        Russia is collaborating with NATO to influence the mindsets of Europeans. So that they receive information about us and our intentions first-hand, and not through a crooked staff mirror.

        And further down the text of the commentary, everything is said here on the case, thoughts are very sober. Normal impact.
  13. Vi_RUS
    +2
    16 March 2014 11: 33
    They will only make it worse for themselves, but not for us. We’ll start building our own faster and invest the money for the construction of the Mistrals in our latest carrier carrier or restoration of TARKs
  14. W1950
    +1
    16 March 2014 11: 33
    Terribly "Nasral" will not be delivered to us, it's time to drown ourselves.
  15. Check mark
    +3
    16 March 2014 11: 33
    The EU and the USA are not the whole world. Problems from sanctions will be. But the Russians are smart and quick-witted. And loopholes can always be found. It would be hard to dream of isolating Russia in the EU and the US .... It’s not clear to Mistral. I read that France going to transfer Mistral to Ukraine. but I doubt such generosity Well, showing off and calm down .. Let's move on to the matter, in fact, the United States does not interrupt military relations completely .. Rather partially
    1. +6
      16 March 2014 11: 38
      Why Ukraine Mistral, they will soon have no access to the sea.
      1. +1
        16 March 2014 11: 43
        Quote: svetlomor
        Why Ukraine Mistral, they will soon have no access to the sea.

        Flood a couple of NATO ..
      2. RND
        +2
        16 March 2014 13: 00
        Quote: svetlomor
        Why Ukraine Mistral, they will soon have no access to the sea.

        Put on the wheels. And donkeys for drag and drop are being prepared. With a proud name - National Guard ...
    2. +5
      16 March 2014 14: 00
      Quote: Checkmark
      I read that France is going to transfer the Mistral to Ukraine. But I doubt such generosity

      Check mark! This is disinformation of the purest water. The penalty and sanctions are described above on the website. Therefore, I will not pour from empty to empty. I will only say one thing: to maintain such ships, a powerful coastal infrastructure is needed. Well, where does it come from in a bankrupt country? And the exploitation of such monsters is not cheap. At one time the naval officers had a saying: "If you want to undermine the country's economy, give it an aircraft carrier!", We paraphrased it to "cruiser". Nikita fool I did not obey wise advice and gave KRL pr.68bis Indonesia. What came of this, many remember. lol
    3. +1
      16 March 2014 14: 34
      . I read that France is going to transfer the Mistral to Ukraine

      It’s a great idea. Let them finish building it and hand it over. And it will not be difficult for us to overtake them from Odessa to Sevastopol. We will spend at least expenses, and we will change the plates from the MOV to Russian somehow. laughing
    4. +2
      16 March 2014 16: 05
      And they will finish building the banderlogs, cover the superstructures with straw, and forty of them will get them for armaments. The main tower will be the tower of the captured tiger from the museum exposition. Where is the money, Zin?
    5. 0
      16 March 2014 16: 05
      And they will finish building the banderlogs, cover the superstructures with straw, and forty of them will get them for armaments. The main tower will be the tower of the captured tiger from the museum exposition. Where is the money, Zin?
  16. +3
    16 March 2014 11: 33
    He sees the eye, but the tooth is numb! Powerlessness and anger will soon choke on their own foam!
  17. +7
    16 March 2014 11: 34
    NATO, France, and what is it ???. The dead same-sex old woman of the geyropa decays and even Germany already understands how ridiculous and ridiculous she is on the world stage, where completely different players led by Russia have come out.
    1. +4
      16 March 2014 14: 10
      Quote: Monk
      where completely different players went, led by Russia.

      Russia - returned to its rightful place. And China, as far as I know, doesn’t really need accompanying persons.
      Germany is a powerful industrial country, the fifth economy of the world, and it is too early to discount it. Germans - they are Germans. And with their pedantry, they will stretch any European (and not only!) Country for the most do not indulge.
  18. Ivan Russky
    +2
    16 March 2014 11: 34
    Just scared. 2000 people are involved in the construction of one mistral, which means two or two more to build. If they do not fulfill the contract, they will not receive money, the question is, what will the workers pay if these Mistrals are no longer needed. Bluffs bluff.
  19. +3
    16 March 2014 11: 35
    In addition, the deputy minister stressed that Russia is fully fulfilling its obligations in the field of disarmament, non-proliferation and arms control, as embodied in international agreements.
    But apparently not so zealously ...
  20. Vi_RUS
    0
    16 March 2014 11: 35
    It is already clearly noticeable that in the Crimea everything is not as simple as it seems to us all, since such sanctions have gone that will harm us, and the rim is even greater
    1. +1
      16 March 2014 11: 40
      And what damage will it bring us?
  21. +2
    16 March 2014 11: 36
    Nakoy us this cooperation? Chatter one! Cooperation in fact with India powerful projects [brahmos and t-50] and let these go to the aster! :-)
  22. polite people 2
    +12
    16 March 2014 11: 38
    You can isolate any country in the world and this country will be bad. But there is one country that is all .... oh sorry, which doesn’t care - it is RUSSIA. So it was and will be.
    With deep sorrow, anxiety and at the same time hope, we appeal to everyone's prudence and sanity. We tearfully ask the Great Creator of the Lord Jesus Christ, His mercy, so that He can hear our common heartfelt prayer, send admonition to the hearts of those who are at war, and extinguish the fire of passions. We urge everyone to devote to pure fasting and prayer for peace on March 15, 16 and 17, 2014.
    With love in the Lord. Schiarchimandrite Eli the confessor of His Holiness Patriarch Kirill.
    This text is sent around the world by Orthodox people. Of course, someone may grimace, but this is a private matter. This appeal shows how the whole world has stood on the edge of the abyss and how little separates Him from something irreversible. The Orthodox soldiers of our Great Country have never succumbed to dangers. We are always ready to rebuff the aggressor. But first, we always appeal to the prudence of the enemy, hoping that everyone wants to live. And as the great man of our country, Alexander Nevsky, said - "Whoever comes to us with a sword will die by the sword." Maybe at least someone from the West will be stopped and forced to reason with these words. After all, the weapons of past times did not make it possible to destroy the whole world. Now it is a completely different matter. One careless step and everything flies into the abyss, from where there is no return. Think about it people.
  23. +4
    16 March 2014 11: 38
    And here's the news, also smiled))
    BERLIN, Mar 16 - RIA Novosti, Semyon Nekhoroshkin. Due to the situation in Ukraine, Russia's G7 partners are preparing to hold a meeting in GXNUMX format instead of the Sochi summit scheduled for the summer, the online version of Spiegel magazine reports citing sources in the German government.

    According to the publication, the UK authorities have already proposed an alternative summit in London, while other club countries have accepted the proposal favorably.


    And then it would be necessary to meet these same-sex lessons ... in Sochi, equip, feed, guard.
    1. +2
      16 March 2014 12: 52
      Now we need to stock up on polonium.
      Thallium.
      Lead azide ... sprinkle over sugar bowls.
      But cho ..... if the Afro-Englishmen are felling English soldiers right on the streets, really the Anglo-Pashtuns cannot replace sugar. In the shops.
      Especially - Pashtun - God himself ordered.
      1. +9
        16 March 2014 13: 46
        I’ll correct you a little, dear ... pouring lead azide into sugar bowls is stupid; it is practically insoluble - it means it’s not toxic .. if you just blow it up, it’s an explosive explosive for detonators and capsules .. further, polonium and thallium by themselves are also unsuitable for poisoning, they are just radioactive but their salts wassat
        1. +3
          16 March 2014 14: 14
          It's nice that the forum has savvy experts.
          Thank you.
          I will consider.
          I will remember.
          Especially since I meant .... lead acetate .. err ... tongue wassat drinks
  24. +5
    16 March 2014 11: 38
    What cooperation is possible with the enemy alliance? We have partners from China and India, and that’s enough.
    1. Platov
      +4
      16 March 2014 13: 28
      Do not flatter yourself, Russia has only two allies, the Army and Navy.
    2. +4
      16 March 2014 14: 23
      Quote: zollstab
      We have partners from China and India, and that’s enough.

      If they would give us advanced military technologies, then there would be no questions. And so, we’ll take something away from France, we will borrow something from Italy, and even from Germany we will slam. You look, it somehow turns out nothing.
      And China and India are our markets and wallets. But recently, the Indians began to twirl their noses, look more and more to the West. And this is a signal!
  25. +1
    16 March 2014 11: 39
    Haha, now you all the same decided to coordinate, but you said that everything was gone and the cooperation was interrupted.
  26. +6
    16 March 2014 11: 40
    Review the program? We need to revise the program for the withdrawal of troops across our territory from Afghanistan. Let's see what it will pour into them. Unless of course our commanders go for it. And also to sell Iran their desired S-300. We will revise this too. Yes, we will review a lot more. Let's revise Omerika)))
  27. +12
    16 March 2014 11: 42
    I remember the Iron Curtain (of the West), the USSR went for the benefit .. The jerk was powerful in science and industry ..! I am for sanctions! and the Iron Curtain! Enough to be a resource appendage of the West and a place for knitting together billionaires of all stripes ..! They think that Russia will kneel ..? Russia will still thank them that they opened our eyes ..
    1. +9
      16 March 2014 11: 51
      And let the accounts freeze our oligafrens in their banks.
      1. +7
        16 March 2014 12: 55
        Quote: ankh-andrej
        And let the accounts freeze our oligafrens in their banks.

        This will be a very tangible stimulation of our economy .. It will be immediately clear who works for whom .. Please authorize us quickly! 100 million Russians want to see our "heroes!"
      2. +9
        16 March 2014 12: 59
        Right, Meehan, right.
        The iron curtain is always good.
        First of all, iron is a good screen. From everything.
        Secondly, all capital is spinning inside. Raises own narchosis.
        Thirdly, if there is nowhere to go .. it remains only here, in place, to be good.
        Fourth, foreign live-throats will not run, pieces to tear off.
        there is still a lot .... until the 32nd counted.
        joke.
        ...
        Japan, during the isolation period, was quite an original, interesting state. Just admitted ..... to the body ... of foreigners - and, out. Now Japan is a great cartoon power. Anime.
      3. sPS
        +4
        16 March 2014 13: 08
        and the houses will be arrested .. and their children will be sent home to study ... lol
    2. sPS
      +1
      16 March 2014 13: 05
      let them eat their legs ... here !!! winked
  28. +10
    16 March 2014 11: 42
    ... The United States and France will coordinate the review of military cooperation programs with the Russian Federation ...and in the end it turns out that France is in shit, and the Americans .... Oh, it’s time, it’s time to CHAOS IN THE USA TO BUILD ... UNCONTROLLED .... Think about it .. aha.
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    2. Stalker
      +3
      16 March 2014 14: 25
      .... Oh it’s time, it’s time CHAOS IN THE USA TO BUILD ... UNCONTROLLED

      And it has already begun! At the barracks squirrels at a party. laughing
  29. +6
    16 March 2014 11: 48
    If weaned, weaned. Let them eat from another place.
  30. +14
    16 March 2014 11: 49
    Oh well! If a telephone conversation requires confirmation of NATO's internal solidarity, then sorry, gentlemen! There is a sense that this "NATA" will soon begin to fall apart. They "fight" with children and old people.
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/373/qoqh907.jpg
  31. +9
    16 March 2014 11: 52
    we have to get out of all sorts of 8 and other shit ourselves. they consider us for the Papuans. trade with Asia and South America, and wipe the embargo. A gold freak of freaks, gave the world: the Inquisition, religious wars, fascism and tolerance!
    1. +14
      16 March 2014 13: 08
      Good post, Eugene.
      Russia, Russia - gave the WORLD - democracy in the form of Zemstvo representatives. Under Ivan the Terrible.
      Russia, Russia - presented to the World - a jury, out of 12 assessors.
      Russia, Russia - gave the WORLD - freedom born person initially, no matter who the parent is.
      ...
      The West - presented - the burning of dissidents by the verdict of a civil court. (Inquisition only excommunicated)
      - concentration camps for others are simple - the Boer War of 1902.
      The West - gave the world - indulgence - the remission of sin in advance and at a glance.
      ...
      So ...... ".. the further - the weirder and weirder .."
    2. +4
      16 March 2014 14: 30
      Quote: hz123
      pederance!

      How's that? what Pederasty + tolerance, lol Or I'm wrong?
  32. +10
    16 March 2014 11: 53
    That France, that they are blue Americans and their solutions are unconventional.
    1. +2
      16 March 2014 16: 18
      DMB-75
      "That the france, that the americans, they are blue and their solutions are unconventional."

      Do not offend the French, see what kind of rating Hollande has in France. Well, they made a mistake, they believed with whom it does not happen. This pervert is a political suicide, Marie Le Pen will soon castrate him with blunt scissors.
  33. +9
    16 March 2014 11: 55
    Good news! Previously, the United States deployed bases and missile defense systems without consulting with partners, but now it will do this in a coordinated manner. In my opinion France should say thank you to Russia, and finally they began to reckon with it.
    Still pleased with the news of the imposition of sanctions against a number of officials of the Government of Russia. I would like the media to publish a list. This is the best advertisement. People will be pleased to know who the real patriot of their homeland is and who they can safely vote for in the elections. And then too many divorced from the fifth column.
  34. +18
    16 March 2014 11: 56
    That’s where you don’t look, where the United States begins to vomit, there France is pushing. As the Americans bent France, so she walks behind them without unbending on a leash. And laughter and sin! lol There are no gestures without Uncle Sam’s directions, apparently his head is not there. Hollande is generally a political prostitute. And nothing more to say.
    Well, what about the sanctions:
    1. +11
      16 March 2014 12: 01
      under de Gaulle, independent France was, and under pedland, satillite cannot be called
    2. +6
      16 March 2014 13: 56
      Quote: major071
      Hollande is generally a political prostitute.

      Well, about the fact that he is only a political prostitute, even in France they are not sure ... Hello Vova !! hi
      1. +8
        16 March 2014 14: 12
        hi Hi Yura!
        In general, you're right. I'll even say RIGHT! I unsubscribed to you in the mosaic, look about "hanging by the balls"! laughing
  35. Capyar 48315
    +7
    16 March 2014 11: 57
    Original:
    In addition, the Deputy Minister stressed that Russia fully fulfills its obligations in the field of disarmament, non-proliferation and arms control, enshrined in international agreements. "As for the existing agreements in the field of arms control, we intend to continue to fulfill international obligations and to continue the practice of voluntary transparency to the extent that it will be in our interests," said Antonov.

    Translation from Russian diplomatic into Russian is not very diplomatic:
    Dear! Will you ... eat - we will think about our mistakes in arms reduction plans.
    1. +6
      16 March 2014 13: 14
      Victor....
      "..and continue to practice voluntary transparency to the extent that it will meet our interests, "Antonov said.
      ...
      From such words, persistent intestinal dysfunction usually begins. At the "... most, most ... most ..." army in the world. And her colleagues, who cannot pour at minus-6. Because the diapers are starting to freeze.
      Lord, your will ...
  36. Ivan 63
    +7
    16 March 2014 12: 01
    This is not serious. Some of the Western leaders in the early 90s openly said that the people of Russia were connected at all "not to the water supply, but to the sewerage system of Europe" So that very naive people may think about the desire of these gentlemen to help Russia, but shit is a fact ... As always, only our own production, no other is given. Well, and intelligence, including industrial, has not been canceled.
  37. +21
    16 March 2014 12: 02
    Nothing sensible for Russia has come out of this cooperation, nor will it come out. And all these statements look like manipulations with the bare heel against the Cossack checker. Http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/813/gxlp269.jpg
  38. -17
    16 March 2014 12: 05
    The funniest thing is not one naval specialist can imagine why we need these self-propelled barges with 19 nodal passage. And something else is surprising: the Sochi slave in galleys is silent about the NATO base in Ulyanovsk.
    1. +13
      16 March 2014 12: 35
      In the specific situation of today, the Mistrals are needed again. For there are already not enough cash forces of the BDK, while the BDK are assembled from 3 fleets in advance.

      In February, the Tartus-NVMB express contracted by almost 50%. In March, an entire 2 flight was made. All BDKs run along the route of NVMB-Sevas. Turntables are forced to drive under their own power, in fact, in a poorly controlled territory, where a provocation can kick out from someone and shoot from Strela, Shilka or MANPADS.

      Total - the combined forces of the fleet cannot pull the supply of 2 sites at the same time. Now everything is going to Crimea, with the then working Kerch crossing and working Ilah VTA. Tartus receives virtually nothing.

      Mistral in this case would help:
      - it is safe, relatively secretive and massive to transfer helicopters of all types (based on deck).
      - significantly increase the transfer of various equipment and cargo to the port.
      - significantly increase the transfer of personnel.
      - to keep the supply of Tartus with the forces of the Russian Navy.
      1. +3
        16 March 2014 17: 02
        Thanks for the clarification, otherwise they put 15 minuses to a friend, and he asked the right question
      2. 0
        16 March 2014 18: 58
        From the reference book "Military Fleets of the World" - Mistral is a ferry-ship built according to civilian standards. The cost is 250 million euros. it will cost us 600. The difference is initially for cutting. This is his main task, as well as delivery to the battalion of the marines anywhere in the world, over-the-horizon landing of troops. In short, for "humanitarian" assistance. An escort comparable to the carrier group is required to escort. Otherwise, even Somali pirates can capture it. For reference: the aircraft carrier of the Nimits class cost 500 million. dollars Sochi 51 billion dollars those. ten aircraft carriers. Interesting arithmetic. In short, you take up the comments, do an educational program.
      3. 0
        16 March 2014 18: 58
        From the reference book "Military Fleets of the World" - Mistral is a ferry-ship built according to civilian standards. The cost is 250 million euros. it will cost us 600. The difference is initially for cutting. This is his main task, as well as delivery to the battalion of the marines anywhere in the world, over-the-horizon landing of troops. In short, for "humanitarian" assistance. An escort comparable to the carrier group is required to escort. Otherwise, even Somali pirates can capture it. For reference: the aircraft carrier of the Nimits class cost 500 million. dollars Sochi 51 billion dollars those. ten aircraft carriers. Interesting arithmetic. In short, you take up the comments, do an educational program.
        1. 0
          16 March 2014 20: 02
          Quote: Cossacks
          over-the-air landing ...

          What is it like ???
          Quote: Cossacks
          and also delivery to marine corps battalion anywhere in the world ... Escort requires an escort comparable to an aircraft carrier group ...even Somali pirates will be able to capture him.

          Did he understand everything that he wrote?
  39. 0
    16 March 2014 12: 06
    US and France coordinate revision of military cooperation programs with Russia

    Returning to a possible embargo. The naivety of many commentators is simply amazing:
    Nakoy us this cooperation?

    Nothing to feed NATO military-industrial complex with Russian orders

    Yes, we do not need their cooperation

    Gentlemen / comrades, what equipment does the domestic military-industrial complex work on? Do you know the scale of procurement of equipment for the implementation of state defense orders? And do you know from which countries but is being purchased? For example, the Almaz-Antey Air Defense Concern proudly writes that:
    OJSC NPP Zavod Iskra is confidently looking to the future. As part of the federal target program for the development of the military-industrial complex in 2013, the plant purchased more than 13 units of the most modern and high-tech equipment for organizing a new production line for assembling power semiconductor modules, which will significantly increase the volume, quality and expand the range of products.
    For example, the Geringer A1 series automatic crystal attachment unit is intended for the assembly of complex products and is capable of combining conventional and flash chip mounting of crystals, dosing of several types of adhesive, eutectic soldering with rubbing and UV curing of the adhesive in one program. The PINK VADU 200 XL vacuum soldering system is universal and allows the soldering process to be carried out in nitrogen, forming gas or formic acid vapors, which today is the industry standard for the production of power electronics. It can work with both solder pastes and solder foil.
    Including OAO NPP Zavod Iskra, a low-frequency plasma treatment unit YES G1000 was purchased, which carries out the cleaning process at 40 kHz. The laminar flow of the working gas in the chamber provides excellent stability, uniformity of the plasma and the absence of dead zones of treatment.
    The F&K Delvotec 66000 HR pin and wire unwrapping unit is unique in that it is the only type of welding machine in the world that, when equipped with interchangeable heads, can be reconfigured from one type of welding to another within 15 minutes. This installation provides welding of Au, Cu, Al with a wire with a diameter of 17–600 μm with 100% control of the quality of the connection, active control of the power and duration of the welding process.
    In addition, the company purchased popular equipment used worldwide in the most critical military-space and optoelectronic products - installation of sealing electronic devices by the method of roller-seam welding PyramidEngineering HPS 9206 for seam-roller sealing of rectangular, cylindrical cases, cases with vertical conclusions, sizes from 2 to 300 mm. Software in the Windows environment allows using a simple menu system to program welding parameters and quickly change process parameters.

    This is one of many examples. And I ask you not to flatter yourself that production lines and machines have already been purchased. Without maintenance, without sets of spare parts, without the necessary materials, all this unique and expensive equipment will stand up. The introduction of an embargo against Russia will cast off our military industrial complex many years ago, you can wave the patriotic banners arbitrarily, despise Europe and the USA, but without their help our military industrial complex would never come out of the 80s and without its equipment it has no future.
    1. +12
      16 March 2014 12: 33
      Also add that Microsoft will revoke its licenses. lol
      No need to dramatize. NATO has always cooperated with Russia only when it was to their advantage. Remember all the sanctions that Russia supported and lost billions of dollars in contracts with Iran and many other countries not acceptable to the United States.
      This is not to mention the fact that, so far in response to the deployment of missile defense in Europe, similar work has not begun on the creation of missile defense systems in China, India and Iran. I am sure that Russia itself can introduce much more sanctions against the United States and European countries.
      1. -1
        16 March 2014 13: 03
        Quote: scientist
        Remember all the sanctions that Russia supported and lost billions of dollars in contracts with Iran and many other countries not acceptable to the United States.

        There is a saying "A service already rendered is worth nothing," and then it is clear ...
        Quote: scientist
        I am sure that Russia itself can introduce much more sanctions against the United States and European countries.

        Please list the main ones.
      2. +2
        16 March 2014 17: 24
        scientist
        "Also add that Microsoft will revoke its licenses. lol"

        In the defense industry, Windows is used to a limited extent, only for CAD in design. The main OS is open source MSWS.
        Yes, and do not care about licenses, sanctions - a double-edged thing.
        Our hackers are the most hacker in the world. bully
    2. +6
      16 March 2014 13: 05
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      1. 0
        16 March 2014 17: 27
        Money does not smell. bully
    3. +3
      16 March 2014 13: 07
      Quote: Nayhas
      Returning to a possible embargo. The naivete of many commentators is simply amazing

      Vova said that imbargo is a double-edged sword.
      We feed them, they give us equipment.
      For the sake of comprehensibility of the picture: We give them bread and water, and they give us iron.
      vividly inborn wink
      1. -1
        16 March 2014 13: 13
        Quote: Papakiko
        We feed them, they give us equipment.
        For the sake of comprehensibility of the picture: We give them bread and water, and they give us iron.
        winked out clearly

        Here are just "bread and water" is not only Russia, but worthy iron only they. Not in Argentina to buy?
      2. +6
        16 March 2014 13: 21
        Eugene, as a professional in international cooperation, cannot be understood ...
        We cooperate until we are bumped into.
        If they come, we will stop cooperating.
        The sledgehammer is still here. And Russia is better than all countries in the world can do - only a sledgehammer.
        ...
        And, in addition to direct cooperation - there is also a curve, Eugene does not know.
        One example of Toshiba with submarine shaft recessing machines - there was already a bell. Loud battle.
        And now - when South America enters the BRICS ... ????
        Will we be afraid?
        1. 0
          16 March 2014 14: 21
          Quote: Igarr
          The sledgehammer is still here. And Russia is better than any country in the world - only a sledgehammer

          Well, if we can make a PAK-FA sledgehammer with one sledgehammer, then why did they buy a whole plant for the production of composite materials from the "vrazhingeye"? With a fool, probably? Or lost the sledgehammer?
          Quote: Igarr
          One example of Toshiba with submarine shaft recessing machines - there was already a bell.

          It was the only "bell" you say. The purchase of equipment through the "rear Cyrillic" was an order of magnitude more expensive, besides, not everything can be bought like that and not from everyone. It's one thing to choose the best from the booklets, another thing is what is possible.
      3. Rjycnfynby7
        0
        16 March 2014 19: 34
        IN AND. Lenin said the imperialists even sell us the rope on which we hang them and probably probably?
    4. +4
      16 March 2014 13: 39
      In the world there is such a thing as "industrial espionage". Ours have successfully worked in this area before, I hope they have not forgotten how to do it yet. Besides, there are many ways to bypass any embargo. The uranium enrichment centrifuges in Iran are clearly not Iranian-made.
      1. +1
        16 March 2014 14: 28
        Quote: Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
        In the world there is such a thing as "industrial espionage". Ours used to work successfully in this area, I hope they have not yet forgotten how to do it.

        Industrial espionage is justified when its industry is at the global level and is able to realize stolen ideas. Do you believe that our industry is capable of independently reproducing an industrial 3D printer?
        Quote: Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
        In addition, there are many ways to get around any embargo.

        Of course, they are all extremely expensive and not reliable. There is always a risk of leakage as a result of which the equipment is confiscated without the possibility of returning the spent funds.
        1. +2
          16 March 2014 14: 53
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        2. +1
          16 March 2014 18: 21
          Quote: Nayhas
          Do you believe that our industry is capable of independently reproducing an industrial 3D printer?

          If China began serial production of 3D printers, what can we say about our scientists and technologists. By the way, 3D printing, although promising, is not yet so technologically advanced that it would be used in mass production. So far, the main scope is design and layouts.
    5. +4
      16 March 2014 15: 55
      Quote: Nayhas
      but without their help, our military-industrial complex from 80's would never have come out, and without their equipment, it has no future.

      Eugene, your koment is strong. And he is strong with his Naked Truth. She, like all truths, is bitter and not respectable, but from this she does not cease to be true. This is in 1's.

      However, not everything is as gloomy as it seems at first glance. Scientific schools are being revived, modern equipment is being purchased (albeit through third countries), our scientists who have left in a hard time abroad in search of a better life, recognition, and the opportunity to do what they love are "bought" back to their homeland.
      The main thing is that the state began to deal with this issue. Awareness came: either to become on a par with the West, or to remain forever its raw materials appendage. Putin chose the first. Therefore, as the hero of one movie said, - EVERYTHING WE WILL GET!
      IMHO.
    6. +2
      16 March 2014 17: 10
      The introduction of sanctions will throw off our military-industrial complex by no more than a year, which is necessary for copying Western technologies and developing our own technologies, as well as switching to domestic (including Belarusian) hardware components. What is needed is only political will and a salary corresponding to the volume of work for the performers, and for the sabotage and theft of the allocated funds (including for unjustified price hikes), the bosses will have to carry out corrective work in "places not so remote" with confiscation.
  40. Achilles Pyatkin
    +1
    16 March 2014 12: 06
    I apologize very much, there is no time, but the question is .. !!! .. Crimea returned to us? And all the territories belonging to my ancestors? .. Yes, God be with him, even Chernobyl? wink
  41. +4
    16 March 2014 12: 07
    I am tired of everything! The lies and licentiousness of the West, stupid attempts with the help of boltology to force Russia to refuse to defend its interests.
    And it’s time for us to get down to business with words long ago: file lawsuits in all courts of international jurisdiction to recognize the leadership of the United States and the EU as criminals. They committed a lot of crimes against humanity,
    let them be responsible for the intervention against sovereign states, for the overthrow of legitimate governments, for the invasion of the personal lives of citizens, for the genocide of peoples, for the evil and the blood that these nonhumans bring to people around the world.
    There are a lot of examples: Korea, Vietnam, Libya, Syria, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Ukraine, Georgia, the Falkland Islands, Chile, Nicaragua, Afghanistan, etc., etc. the whole world has been flooded and they think that everything will get away with it.
    1. +2
      16 March 2014 12: 14
      mth courts fiefdom, example Serbia.
  42. +12
    16 March 2014 12: 08
    Humpbacked bastard, even the Germans told me that they betrayed them
    1. +10
      16 March 2014 12: 23
      Quote: Klim
      Humpbacked bastard, even the Germans told me that they betrayed them

      Not a single army of the world was able to do what this diving man did, and at the moment Ukraine can wish it with varying success.
  43. Orc-xnumx
    +12
    16 March 2014 12: 15
    The Soviet Union was under any sanctions all the time. So what? We are used to scare!
    1. +2
      16 March 2014 16: 13
      Quote: Orc-78
      The Soviet Union was under any sanctions all the time. So what? We are used to scare!

      After the 40s and 90s, someone else is able to scare us laughing am
  44. +11
    16 March 2014 12: 16
    "Why are you doing here? - Go, go ... (c)
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  46. +7
    16 March 2014 12: 23
    Americans are using their old tactics. To achieve their goals, they begin to mobilize all their allies, even those who do not really want to participate in this.
    I think that Russia should act adequately in this case.
    The fact is that when we say France, Lithuania or Canada, it seems as if all these countries are acting unanimously. In fact, these countries have their own undercover game, in which the interests of the ruling elite often do not coincide with the interests of many influence groups. This is what should be used by establishing "informal" contacts with representatives of these groups in order to coordinate actions that can be useful both to Russia and to these groups. Most likely there may be many options, the main thing is not to "sleep" now, but to work, work, work. Then it can be worse.
    1. +1
      16 March 2014 16: 46
      you listed the usual methodology of the intelligence services. They won’t report on their merits on the air. If in Lithuania there is no serious agent of influence, they stepped on transit. According to ordinary media reports, the work of specialists is visible, you just need to read and subtext. And analyze. A lot of problems with agents of influence decide the least cost, they provide all types of non-interference by 80 percent. Quiet people, ice after 50 will tell about some of them
    2. 0
      16 March 2014 16: 46
      you listed the usual methodology of the intelligence services. They won’t report on their merits on the air. If in Lithuania there is no serious agent of influence, they stepped on transit. According to ordinary media reports, the work of specialists is visible, you just need to read and subtext. And analyze. A lot of problems with agents of influence decide the least cost, they provide all types of non-interference by 80 percent. Quiet people, ice after 50 will tell about some of them
  47. +5
    16 March 2014 12: 25
    Current contracts are very doubtful that they will reconsider - for it will hit the export of French military equipment very painfully. For example, Rafali may finally leave India. And in general - this is a very serious demarche if a country that is not at war and is not a member of the warring unit requisition equipment without mutual consent.

    Here they can freeze all future contracts - this is the BTR Atom, the new BMP, work on the soldiers of the future, various work with Thales. We won’t be able to particularly answer - to minimize the LEA project, well, and the little things. The most serious blow is Thales, on which ours are seriously tied.
  48. +5
    16 March 2014 12: 25
    US and France agree to coordinate review of their military cooperation programs with Russia

    Would have thought better of something else:
    Americans want to join Russia
    “We are collecting signatures for a referendum on whether to remain a bankrupt state governed by criminal oligarchs, a country with a ruined economy, or join the Russian Federation under the authority of a president with experience breaking off the horns of oligarchs,” says Bill Blatsky, head of the “Join Russia - Putin's presidency. "

    Supporters of the referendum indicate that the United States has deep historical ties with Russia - almost 20 percent of the country is Alaska, which was historically Russian territory. “Let's not forget that the Bohemian Grove, where the criminal oligarchs of America gather annually to develop plans for their robberies, is located on the banks of the Russkaya River. Wouldn’t it be nice for Putin to send an armadillo up the river and arrest all these guys? ”Blatsky argues.

    If it is not possible to hold a nationwide referendum on joining Russia, supporters of the idea have a backup option: nominating Vladimir Putin as a candidate for the presidency of the United States. Blatsky praises his chances: “If you put Putin against these six candidates from the main parties - Barack Obama, Mitt Romney, John McCain, John Kerry, Al Gore and George W. Bush, he will gain more votes than all these candidates combined ".

    Supporters of the Russian leader have already printed millions of bumper stickers that read: "Putin's presidency: at least he's competent."

    No jokes, but the activist is right: Putin would have torn them all.

    http://www.allmirest.org/news/putin_nash_president/2014-03-16-924
  49. Dmitriy2014
    +11
    16 March 2014 12: 26
    Well, finally a referendum! You can already open the umbrellas, the western ficels are about to be launched.
  50. +23
    16 March 2014 12: 38
    Picture in the subject!
  51. marauder24
    +1
    16 March 2014 12: 42
    A good reason to pay even more attention to your own design bureaus.
  52. +1
    16 March 2014 12: 44
    The entire political kitchen is based on diametrical answers. It turns out that by punishing Russia, France is punishing itself, but they cannot simply remain silent - this would mean agreeing to the division of Ukraine.
    In any case, you need to save your face, even if you can’t do anything!
    Georgia is an example of this
  53. 0
    16 March 2014 12: 46
    I have only one desire left in my life, and that is to see how all these pe de races will get so punched in the face that they will never come to their senses and will call Russia “you” and in a whisper.
    Only threats like those US mongrels can do nothing, only woof woof.... well... on you.
    The dog barks the caravan is coming!
  54. +2
    16 March 2014 12: 46
    Well, if the United States and France reconsider the program of military cooperation with Russia, then the next START 4,5 will be concluded with North Korea, and the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan will be through the territory of Al-Qaeda and the Taliban in Pakistan. am
    1. +1
      16 March 2014 16: 24
      Quote: individ
      Well, if the United States and France reconsider the program of military cooperation with Russia, then the next START-4,5 will be concluded with North Korea,

      I apologize and where do you put RUSSIA? Or by this time we will no longer exist in your opinion? I think you got a little carried away somewhere!
  55. +7
    16 March 2014 12: 50

    off topic, but on topic..
    1. dmitrij.blyuz
      0
      16 March 2014 14: 09
      The muzzle of Obama's face would suit this monkey. Same behavior.
  56. 0
    16 March 2014 12: 54
    Hurray! The money for the Mistrals will be returned...we will build 3-4 RPK SN with them!!!!!!
    1. dmitrij.blyuz
      0
      16 March 2014 14: 11
      Captain! What's going on? Where did you get the info? If so, it doesn't matter, we're unlikely to build it. The plans have been announced. recourse
  57. 0
    16 March 2014 12: 55
    By the way, today there is a referendum in Venice. Guess what they want
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/10698299/Venice-prepares-
    for-referendum-on-secession-from-Italy.html
  58. mvv
    mvv
    +1
    16 March 2014 12: 58
    I believe that oil and defense workers will soon strangle the frame with a scarf. because their bonuses at the end of the year will be greatly reduced.
  59. +3
    16 March 2014 12: 58
    French people! Take your average Mistral and kiss us on the stern!
  60. 120352
    +4
    16 March 2014 12: 59
    The guys got excited. Happens. Your head will cool down and your thoughts will return. If they apologize from the bottom of their hearts and pay for everything, we will probably agree to cooperate with them again. But on our terms. And so - take a walk yourself!
  61. StrateG
    +5
    16 March 2014 13: 02
    I don’t even know if this answer is appropriate O_o
  62. +1
    16 March 2014 13: 05
    It's time for the world to watch! That the dictatorship that must be destroyed is the USA. Terrorist Number ONE.
    1. dmitrij.blyuz
      0
      16 March 2014 14: 15
      Everyone understands everything, but Amer’s trumpet still guides everyone (many). They are afraid of them. But we, Pokedov, are not very much. Well, they haven’t understood yet!
      1. +8
        16 March 2014 14: 58
        Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
        Everyone understands everything, but Amer’s trumpet still guides everyone (many). They are afraid of them. But we, Pokedov, are not very much. Well, they haven’t understood yet!
  63. +1
    16 March 2014 13: 09
    Sanctions?, for God's sake.
  64. 0
    16 March 2014 13: 10
    Quote: mad
    That even Mistral will not be sold to us? We do not mind, just return the money and the penalty. Serdyukov and Co. concluded a deal not on terms favorable to Russia.


    Serdyukov, Serdyukov. Do you know what kind of kickbacks there were? Not only with France, but with the devil himself you will make a deal.
  65. Iron Mike
    +5
    16 March 2014 13: 13
    Klitschko - grandmother - Tamara Efimovna Etinson
    The maiden name of grandmother Tyagnibok - Frotman
    Arseniy Yatsenyuk - mother of Yatsenyuk, whose maiden name is Bakai, belongs to the ancient Jewish family, which is known to the world thanks to the authoritative interpreter of the Talmud - Rabbi Bakai.
    Tymoshenko’s grandfather Abram Kapitelman, before the Second World War, worked as the director of a Jewish school in the city of Snyatin, which until 1939 was part of Poland and where Menachem Begin fled in 1939.
  66. +7
    16 March 2014 13: 18
    Answering a question about the threat of sanctions from the West, he noted that “those who are going to impose them should think about the consequences of sanctions against Russia.” “The damage in the global world will be mutual, and threats against Russia are counterproductive and harmful,” the president warned.


    Russia will manage without the EU, but the EU is unlikely to survive without Russia. Putin is right.
    1. 0
      16 March 2014 14: 27
      Somewhat similar to the EU
  67. 0
    16 March 2014 13: 18
    Let them coordinate whatever they want, it’s already convulsions, it’s done!!!
  68. +4
    16 March 2014 13: 21
    In addition, the Deputy Minister stressed that Russia fully fulfills its obligations in the field of disarmament, non-proliferation and arms control, enshrined in international agreements. "As for the existing agreements in the field of arms control, we intend to continue to fulfill international obligations and to continue the practice of voluntary transparency to the extent that it will be in our interests," said Antonov.

    A subtle hint to the ram-like orangutans...
  69. +8
    16 March 2014 13: 22
    “Crimea means more to Russia than the Commore Islands to France or the Falkland Islands to Britain!” (c) S. Lavrov
    1. dmitrij.blyuz
      +4
      16 March 2014 14: 18
      Well, over time, both Comorragh and the Falklands will become part of Russia. Or are mattresses with Anglo-sex people against them? Nu-nu! am
  70. Perm59rus
    0
    16 March 2014 13: 25
    How tired they are with their sanctions and intimidation. We ourselves are no longer sick of ourselves. France, if you drown in cheap wine, that’s where it gets in too. fool
  71. 0
    16 March 2014 13: 37
    In the Italian region of Veneto, which includes Venice and Verona, a referendum on secession from Italy will be held from March 16 to 21. Off we go,,,,
  72. +3
    16 March 2014 13: 41
    An action against fascism in Ukraine took place in Stockholm

    Source: http://politikus.ru/events/14771-v-stokgolme-proshla-akciya-protiv-fashizma-na-u
    kraine.html
    Politikus.ruDenmark against the Nazis and dictatorship in Ukraine
    http://thekievtimes.ua/society/338973-daniya-protiv-nacistov-i-diktatury-v-ukrai
    ne.html
  73. Partizan
    +5
    16 March 2014 13: 42
    Quote: BoA KAA
    According to the results of the 9 months of 2013, the main article of French exports to Russia was nuclear reactors and equipment (14,8% - 0,88 billion euros).
    At the 2 place are aircraft and spacecraft (14,37% - 0,86 billion euros).
    The 3 place is occupied by pharmaceutical products (10,66%, volume 0,64 billion euros). Further:
    - machinery and equipment (9,04% - 0,54 billion euros),
    - means of land transport (6,34% - 0,38 billion euros),
    According to the results of 9 months of 2013
    - 85,83% of the value of France’s imports from Russia amounted to mineral fuel, oil and petroleum products (6,99 billion euros).
    - inorganic chemistry products (2,56% - 0,21 billion euros).
    - ferrous metals (1,61% - 0,13 billion euros),
    - fertilizers (1,27% - 0,10 billion euros),
    - aluminum and products from it (1,23% - 0,10 billion euros),
    ...

    Yes, the usual picture of trade exchange between a developed country and a raw material appendage: we give them resources, they give us high-tech products, they give us “beads” and “hand mirrors”, we give them “gold” and “ivory”... how long will this continue ? Who is to blame and what to do?
    1. +1
      16 March 2014 14: 10
      We in Russia can do everything we need ourselves. However, we are bad with microcircuits. Some really can't be replaced. Shitty crats "on the advice of friends" from overseas destroyed the entire radio-electronic industry, and most of it in the former Soviet republics. I think the Chinese will support us... And the fact that the import-export picture is like with a raw material appendage is for sure.
      1. +2
        16 March 2014 16: 48
        We in Russia can do everything we need ourselves. However, we are bad with microcircuits. Some really can't be replaced. Shitty crats "on the advice of friends" from overseas destroyed the entire radio-electronic industry, and most of it in the former Soviet republics. I think the Chinese will support us... And the fact that the import-export picture is like with a raw material appendage is for sure.

        ...... the fact is that silicon monocrystals for microcircuits are mostly made in Russia
  74. +10
    16 March 2014 13: 51
    it will be like this))
  75. +2
    16 March 2014 13: 52
    Throughout our thousand-year history, someone is always threatening us, someone is brazenly breaking into our house to plunder and destroy us... And every time our Russian (Russian) civilization dealt a crushing and fatal blow to our enemies! We have a great Divine mission to defend the TRUTH and the weak in the world! So, all these US and Western sanctions, all these threats, God will turn against them, you’ll see! God save Russia and Holy Rus'!
  76. +2
    16 March 2014 13: 58
    Quote: Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
    But this is not necessary. It is undesirable to reinforce China with such toys. How much more time will Beijing be ready to cooperate with us? Yes, and China’s habit is known to copy foreign weapons at home, and not only under its own brand, getting good money for it.


    Let it be known to you that China will build 6 Mistrals to the 4 already existing... This is to those of our forum members who sharply criticized the need for such ships in the Russian Navy.
    1. dmitrij.blyuz
      0
      16 March 2014 14: 34
      China Mistrals! Then I am Sisi-Keich! And please, a link to the Mistrals of the Chinese. winked At least search the Internet about the Chinese fleet. bully
      1. 0
        16 March 2014 15: 23
        The website chinesemilitaryreview.blogspot.com has posted new images of the Type 081 amphibious assault ship being designed in China. It is believed that China intends to build six ships of this type.

        http://nevskii-bastion.ru/081_CHina/
  77. Arh
    +2
    16 March 2014 13: 58
    Those who value good relationships with those we will continue to develop in all areas!!!
  78. Platov
    +1
    16 March 2014 14: 00
    Sanctions are a double-edged sword. In this world, no one benefits from this except the Chinese. The Chinese will get the benefit from the sanctions and they will take advantage of this 100 and 1 percent. Everyone will have to bow to them, don’t go to the fortune teller.
  79. W1950
    +2
    16 March 2014 14: 07
    Apparently the Westerners are very scared. Over the last ten days they have held more meetings than in the whole of 2013
  80. +2
    16 March 2014 14: 10
    In recent years, the dependence of the Russian elite on investments in the West has been considered strong and insurmountable. Many analysts in Russia and abroad considered this circumstance to be a basic characteristic of the post-Soviet state. Self-interest, lack of ideas, cynicism and hypocrisy were seen as the main features of the Russian ruling circle. This circumstance served as an argument against Moscow’s possible aggressive behavior: they wouldn’t dare, they have money in Europe and the USA, they have real estate and companies in the West, they have children in the West. The serious news of recent days is that either their money is not in the West, or they do not need this money, or the decisions are made by the group for which the prize called “our Crimea” is more valuable than any Western assets. They are ready to sacrifice them - to take the gambit. In other words, we can say that the configuration of the inner circle has changed. Decisions in the Kremlin began to be made by a “group of honest people” or a “party of unselfish people.” I don’t know whether to keep quotation marks around these words. Meanwhile, the reaction of Western politicians to the actions of the Russian leadership towards Ukraine is determined by the usual idea in which the motive for Russian actions can only be self-interest. Western politicians think in terms of sanctions. Moreover, such sanctions are minimally costly for their states and societies. For example, implementing the “Magnitsky list” was not easy politically, but it was very inexpensive economically. It did not bring any serious losses, other than reputational ones: both the American side and all those involved had time to prepare. This position is quite understandable: in conditions of freedom of the press and periodic elections, Western politicians cannot ignore public opinion. They must somehow punish the villains. But for the same reasons, they cannot afford to sacrifice much: the use of violence and harsh institutional measures (for example, a ban on the listing of Russian companies, the seizure of English football clubs from Roman Abramovich and Alisher Usmanov) are too problematic in a rule-of-law state and can be costly. And refusals from summits and sanctions against specific individuals are politically beneficial and economically cheap. Putin is counting on such a reaction. Perhaps he believes that he has warned his colleagues enough: it has been said more than once that it is time for the elite to nationalize. Some prohibitions, although easily avoided, also exist at the legal level, for example, the ban on civil servants having accounts in foreign banks. But Putin and his “party of the selfless” (fill in your own names), of course, do not count on laws. They are counting on fear. If what Putin is doing now is not a bluff, then this will have huge consequences for the entire system of power in Russia and its interaction with the world. This will mean that Putin has made some important choice.
    Read further: http://www.vedomosti.ru/opinion/news/23698141/maksim-trudolyubov-k-vlasti-v-ross
    ii-prishla-partiya#ixzz2w7QYloMS
  81. 0
    16 March 2014 14: 12
    How can you cooperate with them - eternal threats, sanctions, revisions...
    GDP maybe screw these partners! I think we won’t lose much, and maybe we’ll win.
  82. +1
    16 March 2014 14: 20
    I don’t understand what is this? The advancing Ukrainian army? On the brakes guys, let’s get into America.
  83. +2
    16 March 2014 14: 24
    The French think that the Americans will let them turn the valve on the gas and oil pipelines that they want to grab. Yes, Yatsenyuk may have already laid it....
  84. 0
    16 March 2014 14: 25
    I don’t understand what is this? The advancing Ukrainian army? On the brakes guys, let’s get into America.
  85. XAHAHATE
    +1
    16 March 2014 14: 28
    Such idiots.. In the entire history they have not been able to conquer anything, only to colonize the wildest countries... England, France... Well guys.. Why are you there) you don’t want to fight, but you want to hide behind NATO and Herato) that’s what you’ll get.. Pissed off
  86. Makyr
    +2
    16 March 2014 14: 29
    After the end of the Napoleonic era, France always took the side of the strong, without having its own state political core. Suffice it to recall the Crimean War, the First World War, especially the Second World War, when a former Entente ally became a loyal ally of Hitler. It was not for nothing that Churchill and Truman were categorically against the participation of French units in the Victory Parade, but Stalin insisted.
    The only PRESIDENT with a capital P of the post-war period is Charles de Gaulle, who led an independent French Policy, under which France became the only truly independent state in Europe. Modern French politicians are increasingly reminiscent of the American "sixes", who puff out their cheeks from the former greatness of the Fifth Republic and at the same time openly lick the US's ass.
  87. XAHAHATE
    +1
    16 March 2014 14: 31
    Russia is the only country of its kind where people are equal... All the republics lived well in the Soviet Union... And the French and the Germans and all sorts of Englishmen, Americans, only like to let in the weak... They will get a slap in the face)))
  88. +2
    16 March 2014 14: 33
    This means that thermal imagers for tanks, which were supposed to be produced in Vologda in July of this year, are being covered with a copper basin... what
  89. Sigismund
    0
    16 March 2014 14: 43
    The jackal is barking, and the caravan is moving on. It has become very scary. We are the type that is only being hardened by difficulties. We have nowhere to retreat, and it is impossible. Therefore, I will simply say, “Fuck them...”
  90. +1
    16 March 2014 14: 55
    Quote: mad
    That even Mistral will not be sold to us? We do not mind, just return the money and the penalty. Serdyukov and Co. concluded a deal not on terms favorable to Russia.

    They are simply grasping at straws and cannot believe that the GDP is ready to go all the way. Jackals whine.
  91. +1
    16 March 2014 15: 01
    What do we lose from the termination of this very cooperation? I can’t remember any benefit from it, except for somewhat dubious ones, such as a transshipment base in Ulyanovsk. Maybe someone can tell me?
  92. +2
    16 March 2014 15: 02
    They also threaten to turn the G-8 into the Zh-7.
    Do we need this F?
    No need to come to us!
    Let them gather under their blankets at night and whisper in each other’s ears!
    -Everyone still needs to survive until June.
    They still have to see the light, learn and appreciate a lot.
    Vladimir Vladimirovich!!!
    We support you, little good can be expected for us from these punks.
    Let them go to their f...
  93. philip
    +1
    16 March 2014 15: 10
    In addition, the deputy minister stressed that Russia is fully fulfilling its obligations in the field of disarmament, non-proliferation and arms control, as embodied in international agreements.

    Somebody didn’t understand, we disposed of the warheads, they were stored. How is this? Denounce.
    1. +2
      16 March 2014 17: 20
      Quote: Philip
      We disposed of the warheads, they stored them. How is this? Denounce

      Good question. We disarmed our BBs, the USers bought our weapons-grade uranium, but did not take it to us, but left it to be stored in our “deep caves”. Total 500 tons. Now there is an opportunity to send them to the forest in accordance with their own sanctions. But they don’t have fuel uranium. So let them lick their lips after this, remembering EBN’s paw-earedness.
  94. philip
    +1
    16 March 2014 15: 16
    In addition, the deputy minister stressed that Russia is fully fulfilling its obligations in the field of disarmament, non-proliferation and arms control, as embodied in international agreements.

    Somebody didn’t understand, we disposed of the warheads, they were stored. How is this? Denounce.
  95. 0
    16 March 2014 15: 27
    On their own, whether they are Americans or their offspring, they are, without coordination and coordinators, just morons. But who are they on their own?, a pathetic semblance of a people, lousy and worthless, they are afraid of their own shadow, and not like GREAT RUSSIA.
  96. dmitrij.blyuz
    +1
    16 March 2014 15: 27
    Quote: arane
    Maidan - the swan lake? wassat
    We will! We need some water for the swans. They will carry the rest (trunks).
  97. +2
    16 March 2014 15: 29
    Now the United States and the European Union are given a historic chance to recognize Russia’s historical right to return Crimea to us if the people of the peninsula speak out for unification with their historical homeland!
    Otherwise, the blood shed on the land of Ukraine by the Russian-speaking population will cry out to God for vengeance! The Maidan fascists have already marked their Western masters with this blood!
    God save Russia and Holy Russia!
  98. Msergeyg
    +1
    16 March 2014 15: 33
    The suspension of military cooperation, or even worse, sanctions, is a “double-edged sword.” The West itself may pay for this.
  99. Partizan
    +1
    16 March 2014 15: 34
    Quote: Dart2027
    The website chinesemilitaryreview.blogspot.com has posted new images of the Type 081 amphibious assault ship being designed in China. It is believed that China intends to build six ships of this type.

    http://nevskii-bastion.ru/081_CHina/

    It’s strange that the Chinese didn’t order Mistrals from France. Apparently they don’t have their own Serdyukov, who can properly “cut” the funds.
  100. skifo
    +3
    16 March 2014 15: 44
    Our military contracts with NATO are only beneficial to them anyway: reduction of weapons on our part, etc.. So good riddance!

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