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Semi-finished products for NATO at the borders of Russia

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The other day edition Kommersant It came out with the publication of the material, in which a certain unnamed source of the publication at NATO headquarters announced the possibility of Georgia’s soon joining the North Atlantic Alliance. At the same time, the source says that the application of Georgia for joining NATO must be satisfied in connection with the Crimean events:


Russia's actions in Ukraine have led to a renewed discussion on the need for a more decisive Alliance policy in Eastern Europe. The fact that Tbilisi’s application for a candidate’s status must be satisfied, even the representatives of the states, who until recently called for not to force the issue, spoke.




According to the same Kommersant, the United States allegedly promised the Georgian leadership that they would act as a guarantor of the speedy entry of Georgia into NATO.

The Secretary General of the North Atlantic Alliance, Mr. Rasmussen, at the end of 2013 of the year stated that the Georgian military would join the NATO response forces on a permanent basis from the 2015 of the year.

So, Georgia adjacent to the Russian Federation seems to be going to be introduced into the western military bloc at an emergency pace. Well, at least, such conversations are conducted today on the sidelines of NATO itself. Moreover, in this case, the rhetoric looks extremely interesting: they say, look at what is happening in the Crimea - if Georgia does not take into our alliance now, then the referendum will take place somewhere in Batumi tomorrow ... And, characteristically, neither The West and official Tbilisi do not declare state “territorial integrity”, which is one of the conditions for the country's admission to the North Atlantic Alliance - to join NATO on any conditions, even though in parts, at least one by one, even through the back about move

Western countries and first of all the United States are well aware that today we can talk about the territorial integrity of Georgia, if we understand this territorial integrity without taking into account the now independent Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Perfectly, the West also understands that today the approach of NATO to the borders of Russia is no longer possible “by mutual agreement”, as it was in 90, when no one was going to ask this consent from Russia, and when the game went exclusively at one gate . To bring the military bloc closer to the borders of Russia, another tactic is now being used - the tactic of “democratic” provocations near the Russian borders. Without provocations of NATO in the direction of Russia, they are not able to multiply now - the Atlantic has squandered its fuse, and therefore they act exclusively “extracorporeally” - by getting an embryo “in vitro” with further replanting ...

Provocations, as the example of Georgia’s era of Mr. Saakashvili shows, are carried out according to the following scenario: illegitimate puppets advance into power under the “democratic” marches, with the aim of consolidating the society in such a way that it will want to introduce the country into the Western military bloc . With “fertilized outside the body of Georgia,” Saakashvili didn’t work out a bit ... But, as we know, “a little bit” is not considered ...

At first, in the 2008 year, against the background of the anti-Russian informational (and not only informational) war, the relationship of a large number of even ordinary Georgians to Russia deteriorated sharply. Propaganda and misinformation have done their job, and Georgia could have taken NATO as a ready-made ...

But in the end, as you know, did not grow together. At first, the “falcons” of Saakashvili epically collapsed in South Ossetia, then from Georgia “thanks to a competent democratic and humanistic position” its president broke away both South Ossetia and Abkhazia, and then in NATO (and in Washington, first) they began to think that it would be time to Georgia’s break away of Mr. Saakashvili himself, who actually failed the entire operation ... Saakashvili ended up being beautifully merged, however, giving him the opportunity, as a person who knows “something”, to emerge in the US for consultation (new “fertilization”), and those countries where it is possible to turn a more successful scenario for NATO after such consultations. Saakashvili emerged on Independence Square, where he spoke in pure Russian about how to properly deal with Russia. And this should happen, as soon as the former president of what was left of Georgia after his magical rule, appeared in Kiev, Ukraine itself began to burst together.

Of course, the “official” Kiev, extracting the rhetoric of Bandera’s times with mothballs from chests with Nazi attributes, states that it is crumbling Ukraine “vile Russia”, but this rhetoric also lies in the logic of the latest NATO scenarios in the East. Scenarios, as already indicated, consist in the implementation of concepts based on the use of destructive ideology. If such an ideology is not working everywhere in the “experimental” state, the transition to the method is “at least partially”.

If Georgia in the coming years really joins the “friendly family” of the North Atlantic Alliance, then it turns out that it is the “piecemeal” method that works - at any cost, just a step closer to the borders of Russia, close to the borders of Russia! Interestingly, in this regard, someone in the world still has illusions about the fact that, among other tasks, NATO does not have the task of suppressing Russia's activity right next to its borders with the possibility of further advancing across these borders? It is unlikely that there will be such naive people today ... Everyone understands the "role and importance" of NATO, but they pretend that this role is for the benefit of "world peace." Well, not NATO, but straight white dove, and only ...

There is an opinion that if Georgia is accepted into NATO with the internal problems that the country inherited from Saakashvili, then the next step for the alliance is the possibility of accepting the “brotherhood” and Ukraine on the same conditions - well, what remains of this state if the Ukrainian supporters of Saakashvili will continue to stomp the interests of the Ukrainian people and the floors of the government offices in Kiev ...
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  1. svp67
    svp67 17 March 2014 08: 52
    +56
    Georgia joining NATO is a fact of automatic recognition of INDEPENDENCE of Abkhazia and Ossetia
    1. I do not care
      I do not care 17 March 2014 08: 59
      +94
      Mishiko is generally a useful person, has done a lot for Russia
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 17 March 2014 09: 08
        +26
        Normal reaction ..! But Russia is not the same as 2008. Do not anger the Russian bear ..!
        1. AVV
          AVV 17 March 2014 12: 43
          +1
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Normal reaction ..! But Russia is not the same as 2008. Do not anger the Russian bear ..!

          Yes, it’s only a dream, whether Georgia wants to refuse to supply its wine to Russia, is this another question ???
          1. Al_lexx
            Al_lexx 17 March 2014 14: 44
            +2
            Quote: AVV
            Quote: MIKHAN
            Normal reaction ..! But Russia is not the same as 2008. Do not anger the Russian bear ..!

            Yes, it’s only a dream, whether Georgia wants to refuse to supply its wine to Russia, is this another question ???

            +1
            And also, will Georgia want to join NATO until it sees real assistance from NATO to Kiev (I can’t with a big one). And she certainly will not want it when she sees that there is no real help. And she really and completely will not want to when she is warned about the complete breakdown of economic with Russia (for hell we need it, we take wine and water out of sympathy, but we really like it, since we are the main consumer), and at the same time we’ll bring up the Iskander and what is worse to its borders.
            Well, not suicides, they should see that everything has changed a lot in recent years. And surely, after 080808, my ass still hurts.
          2. qqwerty
            qqwerty 18 March 2014 16: 13
            -1
            And where are Georgian wines sold in Russia?
      2. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 17 March 2014 09: 08
        +2
        Normal reaction ..! But Russia is not the same as 2008. Do not anger the Russian bear ..!
      3. vladimirZ
        vladimirZ 17 March 2014 09: 11
        +20
        The weak Russian policy (Medvedev at the helm) in the military events of Georgia’s aggression led to the fact that Russia stopped the troops without taking Tbilisi and did not arrest the war criminal Mishiko Suakashvili. Now there would not be this constant threat of Georgia joining NATO and the deployment of military bases there against Russia.
        Weak unprepared politician as President of Russia, such as D. Medvedev, a threat to the state. And he is still being held at the post of prime minister. We are waiting for another dirty trick against the people of Russia from him?
        1. Ivan Petrovich
          Ivan Petrovich 17 March 2014 09: 27
          +8
          Do you seriously think that GDP was not up to date? or he was not allowed into the office where there were conversations of Sarkozy and the bear?
          so, then Sarkozy came precisely to the GDP. And the paratroopers had 30 km, to Tbilisi and no one bothered them anymore, as some lieutenant caught up in the UAZ and gave a stop order. And the connection did not work!
          1. asar
            asar 17 March 2014 09: 46
            +1
            and what prevented our military from trying "Kindzmarauli" on the streets of TBILISO !?
          2. Canep
            Canep 17 March 2014 10: 28
            +13
            They say a Georgian grandfather came up to ours in Georgia, and said: - "What are you doing here, you there (pointed to Tbilisi) Saakashvili is sitting there."
          3. Sakmagon
            Sakmagon 17 March 2014 12: 23
            +2
            And the paratroopers had 30 km, to Tbilisi and no one bothered them anymore, as some lieutenant caught up in the UAZ and gave a stop order. And the connection did not work!

            !!!!GENIUS!!!!!!
            Tinkled to peasants, shared - NATURAL tantrum! wassat Especially, as about Lieutenant !!!, giving orders !!! UAZ !!!! wassat wassat wassat
            LAUGHTER EXTEND LIFE !!! HOLD - from grateful paratroopers!
            1. Sakmagon
              Sakmagon 17 March 2014 12: 26
              +12
              Yep, I don’t get to the buttons ... laughing
              LAUGHTER EXTEND LIFE !!! HOLD - from grateful paratroopers!
          4. pensioner
            pensioner 17 March 2014 14: 48
            +1
            Quote: Ivan Petrovich
            And the paratroopers had 30 km, to Tbilisi and no one bothered them anymore, as some lieutenant caught up in the UAZ and gave a stop order. And the connection did not work!

            In-in ... My former cadet told me the same thing. Not about the lieutenant, but about the fact that the mood was: to go as far as possible ... He commanded a 2C1 battery there (sort of ...). True, he spoke about tankers and artillerymen ...
          5. Rattenfanger
            Rattenfanger 17 March 2014 14: 59
            +2
            Quote: Ivan Petrovich
            And the connection did not work

            On the taxi they drove. Seriously. We -in factually drowned them, they told us.
            Simka Akvafonovskaya inserted forward)
          6. Danilka
            Danilka 17 March 2014 19: 38
            +1
            Well, I heard the version about the VOSTOK battalion, whose radio didn’t work and the phones sat down so they didn’t know the order to stop. Isn’t it? request
        2. muginov2015
          muginov2015 17 March 2014 09: 44
          +9
          Did the iPhone make independent decisions? don't tell my slippers!
        3. Beon
          Beon 17 March 2014 19: 16
          +3
          Weak unprepared politician as President of Russia, such as D. Medvedev, a threat to the state. And he is still being held at the post of prime minister. We are waiting for another dirty trick against the people of Russia from him?

          You give Old Man-Lukashenko at the premiere of Russia. The tandem of Putin and Lukashenko is power. Medvedev, Gorbachev and other liberals to America.
      4. vezunchik
        vezunchik 17 March 2014 09: 18
        +4
        Now the "indecision" of Medvedev, who stopped our army 30 km from Tbilisi, will come back to haunt!
        To urgently send the "businessmen" of Georgia home!
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      6. foma2028
        foma2028 17 March 2014 10: 08
        +3
        It is written correctly in Ukraine, and not in Ukraine.
        This is familiar to the Russian ear, and the independent-independent people are very fond of it when "B" is used.
      7. Oleg56.ru
        Oleg56.ru 17 March 2014 10: 54
        -1
        NOT, the Baltic states do not need us.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 17 March 2014 11: 25
          +7
          Quote: Oleg56.ru
          NOT, the Baltic states do not need us.

          Maybe you don’t need it, but Russia needs a nefig to produce NATO bases near the northern capital.
        2. Dilshat
          Dilshat 18 March 2014 00: 17
          0
          In fact, the Baltic states are one of the Slavic branches which was then forced out by the Fritz east and Germanized.
      8. Alex Nick
        Alex Nick 17 March 2014 15: 13
        +2
        But Mishiko does not want to drive to Alaska?
      9. kotyara
        kotyara 17 March 2014 16: 41
        +2
        And then in the USA! you look and they that the thread will break off!
      10. Puler
        Puler 17 March 2014 17: 26
        +3
        Quote: me by
        Mishiko is generally a useful person, has done a lot for Russia

        Order of the Sutulov Saku, you can posthumously!
    2. ZU-23
      ZU-23 17 March 2014 09: 07
      +1
      Nato doesn't think so, anyway.
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    4. Canep
      Canep 17 March 2014 09: 12
      +5
      Quote: svp67
      Georgia joining NATO is a fact of automatic recognition of INDEPENDENCE of Abkhazia and Ossetia
      No, not automatic, Georgians should not only recognize them officially, but conclude agreements on the demarcation of the state border. Otherwise, not seeing NATO as their ears, according to the charter, only a state that has no territorial disputes with neighbors can enter NATO. And all NATO countries should vote for it. I doubt that for their sake they will change the charter of NATO.
    5. parusnik
      parusnik 17 March 2014 10: 15
      +2
      They will join NATO, there will be a referendum on the accession of Abkhazia and South Ossetia to Russia .. For in this situation, where should they go ..
    6. Roman 1977
      Roman 1977 17 March 2014 10: 40
      +12
      Somehow like this...
      1. Serg 122
        Serg 122 17 March 2014 10: 47
        +1
        NATO - North-ATLANTIC Alliance! What is Georgia in the ass? Where is Georgia and where is the Atlantic? With Ukraine the same story ....
        1. inkass_98
          inkass_98 17 March 2014 16: 50
          +1
          Quote: Serg 122
          Where is Georgia and where is the Atlantic? With Ukraine the same story ....

          The Black Sea, however, is the Atlantic. As an aborigine I assure you. This was even taught at school, but apparently not for everyone. hi
      2. lelikas
        lelikas 17 March 2014 14: 22
        +3
        He laughed for a long time - panties in the EU laughing
    7. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 17 March 2014 13: 40
      +1
      far from a fact
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    9. siberalt
      siberalt 17 March 2014 14: 08
      0
      And not only. Georgia will begin to fall apart further. For some reason, recently, everything that pndos against Russia is doing is turning in our favor.
  2. Ilja 22
    Ilja 22 17 March 2014 08: 56
    +5
    They’ve already tried all the methods, once again they are showing their vile essence !! We should also create semi-finished products from Russia at their borders and reconsider the issue with Alaska
  3. W1950
    W1950 17 March 2014 08: 57
    +3
    It’s a pity the Georgians, in case of a mess, they will be one of the first.
    1. Yun Klob
      Yun Klob 17 March 2014 09: 02
      +7
      Not at all sorry. Our pity for which strike weapons will start to hit from Georgian territory. But no one is pulling Georgians into the collar to NATO, they themselves are crawling, and they will get it by business. Not a bit sorry for the fools.
      1. olf_1959
        olf_1959 17 March 2014 10: 13
        +1
        Yes nifiga scary, close the pass and all. Let them boil over the ridge there as they want.
    2. -Patriot-
      -Patriot- 17 March 2014 09: 06
      0
      But you need to think first, and not nod, like Chinese idiots. You can say that they doom themselves.
    3. a52333
      a52333 17 March 2014 09: 19
      +33
      Ask for an unscheduled check
    4. asar
      asar 17 March 2014 09: 53
      +8
      and where did the Georgians "rest" when from the Pankisi gorge all this trash went on sorties to Russia ?! Why didn't they crush all this rot ?! what they wanted - they got it! want in NATO - for God's sake! just don't ask back! you will learn about the consequences of your decision later! eeeh! brothers-Georgians! and you there too! Oh well!!!
  4. Igor39
    Igor39 17 March 2014 08: 59
    +5
    I think they’ll go on climbing further, they checked the reaction of Russia and now they will review their policy, they will put pressure on the economy.
    1. Yura
      Yura 17 March 2014 10: 05
      +1
      Quote: Igor39
      I think they’ll go on climbing further, they checked the reaction of Russia and now they will review their policy, they will put pressure on the economy.

      I thought the same thing about it, and besides, the attitude of their own peoples is slowly changing, the actions of their governments with their manner of climbing everywhere and all holes, and for the most part where they are not asked, do not ask about what . So it may turn out that after a while they will not be up to Georgia and Ukraine.
      1. demon184
        demon184 17 March 2014 12: 41
        0
        We also need to reconsider the policy, the best way to defend this is an attack. Until we learn this, the game will be on our field. Is it time to throw the ball across the ocean?
  5. mabuta
    mabuta 17 March 2014 09: 00
    +21
    This even more justifies our actions in the Crimea, and unties our hands.http: //topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/441/oggf71.jpg
  6. Gagarin
    Gagarin 17 March 2014 09: 02
    0
    MASTER OF RUSSIA, THE RING IS COMPRESSING!
    1. svetlomor
      svetlomor 17 March 2014 09: 12
      +21
      The point is shrinking.
    2. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 17 March 2014 13: 49
      +2
      yes, a direct connection - the more the point is compressed in the west, the more the ring will be compressed. and on the outskirts, the main fun is still ahead, the collapse of the economy, the presidential elections, a new Maidan, how strangely the Westerners will want to secede from the outskirts very soon, etc., many "funny" moments are still ahead
    3. Alex Nick
      Alex Nick 17 March 2014 15: 17
      +1
      Each ring unties our hands. These people around themselves do not know what they are doing.
  7. Unknown
    Unknown 17 March 2014 09: 03
    +3
    How full is the world of Judah!
  8. ImPerts
    ImPerts 17 March 2014 09: 05
    +3
    Quote: svp67
    Georgia joining NATO is a fact of automatic recognition of INDEPENDENCE of Abkhazia and Ossetia

    Definitely))) After all, the NAT charter prohibits the admission to the organization of countries with existing territorial problems)))
    I hope that ordinary citizens of Georgia have begun to understand that joining NATO does not solve all the problems))) How many billions have poured into the country, and it has not become Caucasian Switzerland. Or the money is wrong or steal a lot)))
  9. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 17 March 2014 09: 08
    +3
    The military value of the Georgian army is dubious only if you put a radar or a missile there. By the way, something should already be done with it, the Black Sea is somehow secured, but at least return the missiles to Cuba, what do the Cubans think about this? Russia is surrounded by these NATO bases, and they themselves have nothing. But to begin with, Gorbachev should be caught and pulled up as a traitor and traitor to the Motherland, and in public before the American embassy.
  10. Gagarin
    Gagarin 17 March 2014 09: 09
    +2
    Yatsenyuk promises VERY SOON UKRAINE TO NATO, what about the gas pipe of Russia ?, then it will come out that the Americans will be held by the throats ...
    1. zeleznijdorojnik
      zeleznijdorojnik 17 March 2014 09: 33
      0
      By the time of adoption, the "southern stream" through the Crimea will be rebuilt.
    2. ImPerts
      ImPerts 17 March 2014 09: 39
      +2
      According to rumors, Ukraine's GTS has already been transferred to Chevron in exchange for IMF loans. It would be very good if Yarosh fulfilled his threat:
      "Earlier on Sunday, Dmitry Yarosh threatened to destroy the Druzhba pipeline, saying that" Russia makes money by transporting oil and gas to the West through our pipe. "
      1. matross
        matross 17 March 2014 12: 35
        0
        Quote: ImPerts
        Yarosh threatened to destroy the Friendship pipeline,

        Who will allow him? A gas pipeline is money. And not only Russian. And gas through it goes to Europe from Russia, and not vice versa! Americans want to hold Europeans by the throat, but do not want to strangle them ... at least for now.
    3. mamont5
      mamont5 17 March 2014 10: 10
      0
      Quote: Gagarin
      Yatsenyuk promises VERY SOON UKRAINE TO NATO, what about the gas pipe of Russia ?, then it will come out that the Americans will be held by the throats ...

      Whom? Europe?
    4. olegkrava
      olegkrava 17 March 2014 10: 22
      0
      They will pull the pipe to themselves.
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    6. siberalt
      siberalt 17 March 2014 14: 15
      0
      Let NATO deal with Turkey first. Not to Ukraine like that. NATO is not only America. As long as the Yaroshents are there, there will be no NATO.
  11. Shaber
    Shaber 17 March 2014 09: 14
    0
    Letting them enter) Just think, there will be 1 more point of guidance for the poplar!
  12. ybrcfy27
    ybrcfy27 17 March 2014 09: 21
    0
    Personally, I would not shoot at Ukraine, even though there are creatures, but these are our creatures
    1. strannik595
      strannik595 17 March 2014 09: 36
      +10
      and if a moron from a nearby entrance of your house starts firing at your windows and accidentally touches someone, your actions? ... but say our critters, Bandera just creatures with Nazi stuffing and they will definitely not regret you ... "Mos kalyaku on gilyaku!"
      1. ybrcfy27
        ybrcfy27 17 March 2014 09: 56
        -2
        Well, I’m not a Yak. I have a great-grandfather Bandera, although he instilled in me hatred of the Nazis and the like, but still somewhere deep in me sits the same (very deep, very, very)
        1. strannik595
          strannik595 17 March 2014 10: 12
          +2
          great-grandfather of Bandera, although he instilled in me hatred of fascists like them,
          bees against honey ....... rather flies against manure
      2. papik09
        papik09 17 March 2014 12: 15
        +1
        Benderyak on g_lyaku !!! am
  13. shinobi
    shinobi 17 March 2014 09: 22
    +2
    Until the NATO Yankees get their teeth in the teeth, they will go everywhere. In my opinion, mattresses should grab more, without them, NATO will not be able to pull itself. A purely paper organization.
  14. Klim2011
    Klim2011 17 March 2014 09: 24
    +1
    If Georgia joins NATO, the introduction of long-term economic sanctions is necessary.
    Moreover, this should be done not in "tikhari" through "Onishchenko", but officially through discussion in the Duma, by the approval of the Council of the Fed.
  15. Siberian19
    Siberian19 17 March 2014 09: 26
    +1
    Georgia and need a referendum! according to the Crimean scenario! good
  16. hohryakov066
    hohryakov066 17 March 2014 09: 28
    +2
    It seems to me that the Americans do not care about any international laws, and on their own too. As long as they are not given in the face, and with high quality, so that all the brains are mixed, they will not stop.
  17. Magyar
    Magyar 17 March 2014 09: 30
    +1
    Well, and what will this give Georgia, at the moment all the armed forces of this country are controlled by the United States and NATO, training is being carried out according to their program, their army charters are in force, joining NATO will fix this officially and no more. On the territory of Georgia, radio intelligence tools have been operating for a long time, and a bio-laboratory, there is a center for training soldiers of fortune. The main Georgia will forever forget about South Ossetia, and Abkhazia in fact. For the West, keeping Georgians in limbo is an ideal option, free cannon fodder, plus special zeal for executing orders. In short, let them come where they want, in cases of military conflict, this will not help them.
    1. mamont5
      mamont5 17 March 2014 10: 14
      0
      Quote: Magyar
      In short, let them come where they want, in cases of military conflict, this will not help them.

      How does not help? They will be in line one of the first as a goal.
    2. zadorin1974
      zadorin1974 17 March 2014 10: 39
      +2
      And if you think about it, when Georgia joins NATO in the Black Sea, the official US Navy base will appear and the Turks will not be able to refuse the passage of AUGs through the straits to the water area (find the info under the agreement and read) At the moment, no one provides such bases (in Romania and Bulgaria simply doesn’t have such ports and they are friends with their heads) And as you already know, proud dzhigits think they are seated and will immediately provide the amers base
      1. Magyar
        Magyar 17 March 2014 13: 21
        0
        Thinking of what? You believe that there will be a conflict between Russia and NATO, I will disappoint you for the West. This is the worst dream. The war against Russia has already been going on for a long time if you have not noticed, I advise you to pay attention to the North Caucasus, to the informational component of the events taking place in the world at the moment in Ukraine, painted enough.? The United States and Europe understand that any heated conflict with Russia will have only one outcome with the exchange of nuclear strikes, because at the moment we cannot put up a full-fledged force grouping, against their alliance. Take a read the agreement on the possibility of vessels entering the Black Sea and what tonnage should be, now about Bulgaria and Romania these gentlemen will give the Americans an ass just to please, if they could give everything, it’s ridiculous to be friends with their heads, but with what question. And you don’t need to talk about AUG in the Black Sea, only a complete amateur can reason that she will appear there, it will be an ideal target and the Americans understand this very well, so before you tell someone to think, carefully study the issue.
      2. zadorin1974
        zadorin1974 18 March 2014 12: 52
        0
        The order of passage through the Black Sea straits of warships is regulated by articles 8-22 of the Convention. From appendix IV to the Convention on the regime of straits, it can be seen that ships of any class (i.e., aircraft carriers) can be in the fleets of the Black Sea states. At the time of passage of the straits, it is forbidden to perform flights of aircraft on board ships.
        Non-Black Sea countries are allowed to navigate through straits into the Black Sea only light surface ships and auxiliary vessels with a displacement of one ship of no more than 10000t. The total displacement of the squad of ships at the time of passage of the straits should not exceed 15000t. and their passage is permitted only in the daytime. Non-Black Sea states are not entitled to introduce aircraft carriers and submarines into the Black Sea. The total tonnage of the squadron of warships of non-Black Sea countries located in the Black Sea should not exceed 45000t.

        The time spent on the Black Sea by a detachment of warships of non-Black Sea countries should not exceed 21 days, regardless of the purpose of the parish.
    3. demon184
      demon184 17 March 2014 12: 48
      0
      The meaning of joining NATO is not in training the army, but in the fact that the charter of the nat says one for all and all for one. And if some kind of crazy-minded politician from the NATO countries decides to fight with his neighbors, he automatically draws the whole nature into the war. Therefore, they don’t take those who have problems with their neighbors there. If Georgia is taken to NATO, it means only one thing, NATO is preparing an open confrontation with Russia. Of course, I would have thought in their place, if Russia is driven into a corner, then it may even go berserk. In order to destroy the planet of Russia it’s not necessary to target missiles somewhere, it’s enough to slam the whole arsenal around any part of the planet, even though the north pole and the planet will end
      1. Magyar
        Magyar 17 March 2014 13: 28
        0
        Look up there answered your question.
  18. Rattenfanger
    Rattenfanger 17 March 2014 09: 31
    0
    In one, Americans are right — the threat of nuclear weapons being used by Iran and North Korea is the place to be. In this regard, we are simply obliged to help them deploy the missile defense system and deploy ICBM divisions in Cuba and Latin America.
    Obosy, in the Talmud swore that NATO would not move a cm east ...
  19. Cossacks
    Cossacks 17 March 2014 09: 32
    0
    Collect a gang of scumbags against Russia. In NATO, the same laws as in the classic gangs - godfather, sixes ...
  20. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 17 March 2014 09: 32
    +2
    All these are stages of the plan for the destruction of Russia: all means are good for our so-called. "partners", stop being hypocritical and it's time to call things by their proper names - they have always been and will be our ENEMIES to the point. And you can communicate with enemies, but keep the "powder dry" at the same time. As one well-known character said: "The enemy is cunning and cunning. .. "! Russia has two allies (I didn't say it), the ARMY and the NAVY, and all the rest are just waiting for a command from Washington, but at the same time they are very afraid of an answer and are doing the right thing! And in the Crimea, they will poop and shut up in impotent rage, but they will not stop doing petty dirty tricks. As for the "semi-finished products", there is more trouble from them than benefits!
  21. vasyliy1
    vasyliy1 17 March 2014 09: 36
    0
    Probably the Georgians and Adjara wanted to lose!
  22. Naum
    Naum 17 March 2014 09: 38
    0
    The more such "Georgians" there are in NATO, the worse it will be for NATO itself! The puppet kept women will require new and greater expenditures, which will burden the new "masters of the world." Russia has taken a step, the "Rubicon" has been passed and there is no turning back. Let's step back - it will be even worse!
    1. demon184
      demon184 17 March 2014 12: 55
      0
      In my opinion, the strength of the Nata is greatly exaggerated, if the Americans do not intercede, the entire European component will scatter and jump into the windows during the first shot from Russia.
  23. Siberian19
    Siberian19 17 March 2014 09: 39
    +2
    the true face of the junta!
    1. Rattenfanger
      Rattenfanger 17 March 2014 12: 08
      +2
      "Combat hopak" delivered)))))
      Z.Y. Everyone thought they were gay, and they were pi ___ ramie.
  24. Rusin Dima
    Rusin Dima 17 March 2014 09: 40
    0
    Hitler had plans too
  25. 120352
    120352 17 March 2014 09: 43
    0
    But does Georgia want to remember the St. George Treatise and return to Russia? If you are asked a lot, we’ll take a candidate, and there, you look, if you prove your loyalty to us in practice, you can think about the future. And contacts with NATO so far ended for her almost deadly. So her choice is small. You can shrink to the size of the Kartvelian kingdom, and this in area, approximately, the Vsevolozhsk district of the Leningrad region.
    1. mamont5
      mamont5 17 March 2014 10: 21
      0
      Quote: 120352
      But does Georgia want to remember the St. George Treatise and return to Russia? If you are asked a lot, we’ll take a candidate, and there, you look, if you prove your loyalty to us in practice, you can think about the future.

      Be sure to be asked, but then when we will be undeniably stronger. This is the whole principle of the existence of Georgia for centuries.
      Here is an article. True, she is big, but who cares, I think they will read it with pleasure. In my opinion, the article very accurately conveys the political principles of Georgia before and now. http://www.apn.ru/publications/print21261.htm
  26. moremansf
    moremansf 17 March 2014 09: 48
    +3
    We did not start the "cold" war again ... we were ready for normal partnership with the West and the United States, but our "esteemed strategic partners" did not want this ... for them Russia had to remain a raw material appendage and drag out a miserable coexistence, constantly begging loans from the IMF on slave terms ... but Russia showed its teeth in Abkhazia and Ossetia, held the Olympics at the highest level, and now it also returned Crimea to its historically Russian territory ... The army and navy are being modernized, albeit not at such a high rate, but the process goes ... the troops are conducting intensive combat training ... Russia has risen from its knees and there will be no turning back !!! THEY WILL NOT PASS !!!
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 17 March 2014 12: 00
      0
      Quote: moremansf
      We did not start the Cold War again ...

      Yes, it, the Cold War, did not end, periodically moving into the hot phase for more than five hundred years.
    2. demon184
      demon184 17 March 2014 12: 58
      0
      It is necessary to return the rest of the land, Ukraine must remain within the borders of which it was at the time of entry into the Republic of Ingushetia
  27. bubla5
    bubla5 17 March 2014 09: 49
    0
    It would be nice for our structures to shatter the foundations of the West, because now it’s easier than steamed turnip, Arabs reach 11-30% there, it’s a spark everywhere, and it’s time to be cynical to everyone who is hostile towards us, especially the Baltic states, these are instigators of all the troubles of Russia in the EU, it's time to break off relations, both commercial and economic
    1. demon184
      demon184 17 March 2014 12: 59
      0
      Yes, it’s not bad to pull the west for the pais
  28. Potin
    Potin 17 March 2014 09: 52
    +3
    Quote: Gagarin
    MASTER OF RUSSIA, THE RING IS COMPRESSING!

    In recent years, Russia has pursued an overly peaceful policy. You cannot take us in the ring, because there are many states in the world who are dissatisfied with US policy. And this is all of South America (with the exception of Chile), Cuba, Nicaragua. This is just what is close to the United States. They climb closer to our borders, but in return we will come to their borders. Negotiations are already underway. Today "someone" has thrown off US $ 100 billion worth of debt. The Americans have already started jumping, they are afraid of a chain reaction. So I would rather advise you to say: AMERICA KRAPIS, as if the clay legs would not fall apart.
  29. ed65b
    ed65b 17 March 2014 09: 55
    0
    This is a tantrum. do not pay attention. soon everything will change. we have countries lobbyists in the alliance.
  30. mamont5
    mamont5 17 March 2014 10: 06
    0
    "Saakashvili also surfaced on the Maidan, where he spoke in pure Russian about how to properly fight Russia. And this must happen as soon as the ex-president of what was left of Georgia after his enchanting rule appeared in Kiev, Ukraine she began to burst at the seams. "
    An interesting coincidence can be traced. Where else would you send Sahak to send him to speak there? Maybe in Alaska? .. Or where else? ..
    1. demon184
      demon184 17 March 2014 13: 01
      0
      He must be sent to Texas, they also say that he wasn’t legally attached, he entered on the same terms and lives in fact on completely different conditions.
  31. parusnik
    parusnik 17 March 2014 10: 17
    +1
    There are so many problems in the world that need to be solved jointly .. And the United States is playing soldiers ...
  32. Coffee_time
    Coffee_time 17 March 2014 10: 21
    0
    Quote: Gagarin
    Yatsenyuk promises VERY SOON UKRAINE TO NATO, what about the gas pipe of Russia ?, then it will come out that the Americans will be held by the throats ...

    So the gun ... don Yarosh said that it would explode, but the pipe of the northern stream is half full, the new government destroys its own income
  33. Myth
    Myth 17 March 2014 11: 57
    0
    Well, not NATO, but a straight white dove, and only ... White cockerel.
  34. Gagarin
    Gagarin 17 March 2014 12: 29
    0
    I think that with any threat to the gas pipe, not only Russia is put under attack, Europe is one of the first who should worry.
  35. MTenisov
    MTenisov 17 March 2014 12: 51
    0
    Quote: me by
    Mishiko is generally a useful person, has done a lot for Russia

    And we can let ourselves sit in the States ... There is also Texas and Alaska. So far there is.
  36. Stasi
    Stasi 17 March 2014 14: 21
    0
    After the Crimea, nothing prevents Abkhazia and South Ossetia from holding a similar referendum, let the people express their will, it's time to do it. If Abkhazia and South Ossetia become part of Russia, then let NATO take Georgia as much as possible, in Abkhazia and Ossetia we will quietly place military bases in case of an attack from NATO. It is time for Putin to seriously pay attention to Abkhazia and South Ossetia after the Crimea.
  37. Egor.nic
    Egor.nic 17 March 2014 14: 26
    0
    By joining NATO, Georgia plunges into a terrible, so much so that it will stink for a long time. With all this, Georgia will only make things worse for itself - the Russian market will be closed for it forever, economic relations will be broken, energy resources lost, Georgian migrants deported from Russia, etc. You can certainly eat American greens and stoke potbelly stoves with it, but how long will Georgians last? smile But one more moment, Turkey, a NATO member, sleeps and sees Georgia in its "gentle" embrace, which in this case will remain of Georgia and the Georgian people. So all fabulous roads are open for Georgia.
  38. shitovmg
    shitovmg 17 March 2014 14: 36
    +1
    I propose to Saakashvili, by some secret decree, to confer the title of some hero !!! Or award a Darwin Award !!!
    :-) Please take it as a joke !!!
  39. shitovmg
    shitovmg 17 March 2014 14: 38
    0
    I propose to Saakashvili, by some secret decree, to confer the title of some hero !!! :-) Please take it as a joke !!! Or award the Darwin Award !!! (Seriously)!
    1. Alex Nick
      Alex Nick 17 March 2014 15: 21
      0
      I offer him my profile picture, customize the size.
  40. Barakuda
    Barakuda 17 March 2014 17: 30
    0
    I didn’t even read the branch.
    Well, if so they want to sit under a 100% nuclear strike, then please. especially reprogrammed for a long time. Tactical ...
  41. ratnik
    ratnik 17 March 2014 19: 30
    0
    Last development ((((((((((((( laughing
  42. razved
    razved 17 March 2014 20: 51
    0
    They will accept them, you look and yourself will fall apart faster ...
  43. 310815
    310815 17 March 2014 22: 22
    +1
    I am very happy for Russia and the Crimea, I congratulate all the patriots of our country.
    but you don’t have to lift your nose, there has not yet been a war with Georgia, Ukraine, or NATO as such ... and God forbid a real war, all the more not with impoverished Ukraine stolen naked, but with a serious adversary, especially that our thieves didn’t go anywhere either (they were amnestied under the guise of it). History endlessly repeats the same lesson - one cannot but underestimate the adversary.
    we need to strengthen our armed forces, raise and patriotically educate young people - otherwise how many monsters came out across the country to "support the integrity of Ukraine and oppose the dictatorship," and the country must make friends / allies, otherwise
    look - the robbers, thieves and rogues of the Anglo-Saxons have taken over the whole world, and ideologically in the first place, and we are alone as always
    It is necessary to get rid of illusions - the West is not a friend and not a partner, but an enemy, hence the external and internal policies to build.
    For Russia, to paraphrase Tsar Alexander II, a friend is a nuclear triad
  44. Roman 57 rus
    Roman 57 rus 18 March 2014 00: 20
    0
    Gentlemen, help me make a list of people from the "zvezdanutyh" who support Maydaun's shouts
  45. pvv113
    pvv113 18 March 2014 00: 34
    +6
    Saakashvili also surfaced on the Maidan, where in pure Russian he talked about how to properly deal with Russia.
    I CAN’T UNDERSTAND REALLY THIS OUTSTANDING POLICY HAVE NOT BEEN ATTACHED TO THESE TIMES?
  46. qqwerty
    qqwerty 18 March 2014 16: 17
    -1
    After the loss of Crimea, Ukraine will not run to NATO, it will jump, I think it will be accepted and you will receive respected NATO patriots directly on the borders of the Russian Federation. Our strange won another meaningless victory.