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Crimea will help Putin in the "nationalization of the elite"?

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Crimea will help Putin in the "nationalization of the elite"?



The key question for the Ukrainian business: will the obvious outcome of the Crimean referendum cause a military confrontation with Russia? The biggest concern of the Russian business: will anyone arrest assets in the West as a punishment for the Crimea? The Ukrainian-Russian conflict has become a catalyst for the inevitable process - the end of globalization of elites. In Moscow, Putin’s meeting with oligarchs is widely discussed. They say he asked them about sanctions. To which the oligarchs replied: we are no stranger. "Magnitsky List" was survived Cyprus, well, and somehow we survive the Crimea.

“Yes, it’s dangerous for a rich man to rest in Courchevel, well, we have Sochi,” my Moscow acquaintance, a consultant to an international financial corporation, commented ironically, news from Austria about the arrest of a Ukrainian oligarch. The announcement of this came just at lunch, which we devoured in a small French restaurant in the center of Moscow. It was lunchtime, and the “office plankton” ran around the network American eateries, Chinese restaurants, Austrian coffee shops and English pubs. Globalization itself has descended on the Holy See without asking permission from either of its own or that of others.

Therefore, the talk about possible Western sanctions against Russia, their drawbacks and (paradoxically) the advantages constantly turned into an ironic plane. I wonder if the White House and the European Union will still move all in, will their snack bars agree to leave the multi-million dollar market of Moscow alone? However, the problem is much deeper.

A few years ago, globalization seemed the most natural way to protect business from government pressure. Indeed, if you are a man of the world, and your corporation has a turnover several times more than the budgets of countries such as Ukraine, who dares to touch you?

That is why there was a unique situation when Russian billionaires had a “house in the village” (French), bank accounts (Swiss), a yacht was kept in the port (Italian), and holidays were spent in Miami. At the same time, they mined Russian raw materials, but they traded through Austrian traders, and the company itself was registered somewhere in the jurisdiction of England, in the British Virgin Islands. And no mantra on patriotism acted on them. Like the "assaults" of the Kremlin.

Things have changed since one small country arrested the assets of some very large Russian corporation. I don’t remember for what reason, maybe even at the request of the Americans, but it was a signal that the unification of the world banking system, legal norms and standards has both advantages and disadvantages.

Then, the seemingly first “toy” struggle against money laundering and the financing of terrorism unfolded into a serious campaign to uncover banking and commercial secrets. A second powerful blow was struck on the supranational business system. Now, small countries were not only not afraid to take the assets of those who are financially much stronger than them, but also "took the oligarchs by the balls," as they say in Russia, blackmailing them to be declared "money launderers."

The apotheosis of third world abuse of the dignity of the “first hundred money” was the arrest in Cambodia of the Russian oligarch Sergei Polonsky for sailing on a luxury yacht to his own island, pushed overboard a Cambodian sailor. The sailor came to the court barefoot. And he was very proud of himself.

At this moment, many rich people realized that globalization is as evil as the state dictates. And that you never know where your assets are being confiscated before: at home in an unreliable bank or in Cyprus, which for years 20 has been your most loyal partner ...

Yes, Europe in the face of old Merkel beat Russia in Cyprus. The head of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Lavrov and other negotiators, was rumored to have returned no more than 20% of Russian money. The same number of Cypriot banks quietly gave themselves to maintain relations with profitable customers. But in general, Russian capital lost an astronomical amount in the banks of Cyprus, and only the great power of the Russian raw materials economy could withstand such a blow.

They say that it was then that Vladimir Vladimirovich told the oligarchs that there was nothing to roam about foreign “apartments”, it’s time to return home. And if they behave within the bounds of decency, do not bury themselves, no one here will offend them. The oligarchs asked Khodorkovsky to be released as confirmation. Putin let go.

From now on, as they say in the elegant cafés of Stoleshnikovskiy Lane, listening to the accordion and jamming snails, the process that The New York Times in one of its last articles began was called “nationalization of the elite”.

“Over the past twenty years, Russia has become sufficiently integrated into the world economy to represent a significant danger,” writes The New York Times. - However, they are not going to contradict the foreign policy supported by the majority of the population. One of the first projects of Vladimir Putin on his return to the presidency in 2012 was the so-called “nationalization of the elite”. He demanded that officials get rid of investments and property abroad, since foreign assets could compromise their position in the event of a conflict with the West.

According to information from sources inside the Russian government and analysts, Putin’s closest advisers — all KGB people — own minimal capital abroad. Like the head of Russian Railways Vladimir Yakunin, who has close relations with Putin, fully accept the concept of alienation from Western economic models in favor of, for example, the Chinese model of state capitalism. The tough position on the Crimea also enjoys widespread support among the population. If there are doubts among the oligarchs about how completely Putin represents the possible consequences for the Russian economy, then, according to analysts, they are groundless. The political mechanism takes into account economic risks, but does not give them priority, and the measures already taken in relation to Crimea cannot be “rewound” back ... ”.

Among the Moscow business elite (and the average well-educated management), the philosopher and economist, doctor of economics, director of the Institute for the Problems of Globalization Mikhail Delyagin is now extremely popular. On the one hand, he is quite critical of the government, on the other - he very accurately and wittily observes the "perversions" of the Americans. Paradoxically inherently Delyagin's statements largely reflect what feels intuitively, but can not clearly formulate a significant part of the Russian business environment.

He recently called the “colossal good for Russia” from the point of view of perspective, the decision taken by Washington to reduce trade cooperation with Moscow. “If the United States does apply the promised sanctions against Russia, for example, it will free us from enslaving obligations under the WTO and freeze foreign assets of corrupt officials, they will provide us with the maximum service over the entire period of bilateral relations more important than lend-lease. Therefore, if they deceive us, they will have to be punished to the fullest extent: from the closure of the NATO base near Ulyanovsk and the expulsion of American business from the country to refusal of dollars in foreign trade ..., ”he wrote in his blog.

Delyagin is one of those who quite originally substantiated the inevitability of the “de-globalization” of the economy in one of their video blogs.

“You know,” Delyagin muses, “some of our viewers have probably watched such a Hollywood blockbuster Piranha. It is a very beautiful film, where it is very shown what these glorious cute fish do with such lambs and goats, even people who fall into their river. In the West, there is a law in developed countries that, conditionally, there is a corrupt official Delyagin, who has accounts in a Swiss bank.

If the Russian Federation informs the Swiss bank that we have launched an anti-corruption investigation against this person, then this money, if suspicion is confirmed, becomes the property of the Russian Federation. But if the Swiss Confederation starts this investigation in relation to this money before Russia, then this is Swiss money.

They enter her budget. Roughly speaking, who first got up, that and sneakers. As long as our ruling party has power in Russia, it is, by virtue of this, a valuable resource for the West because it daily surpasses millions or even hundreds of millions of dollars in the Western financial system and thereby supports it. This is a cow that feeds every minute. But you know, as soon as these people lose power, this cow will stop milking. And what happens in middle latitudes with meat and dairy cattle, which ceases to milk and thus ceases to be dairy cattle? He becomes cattle beef at the same instant. He is immediately allowed to meat.

I have a good friend who says: “I’ve dug up the entire 10 million dollars, who needs me? Looking for me is more expensive than leaving me and forgetting. And I have no living blood feuds. ” But the problem is that the people who really have influence in Russia have everything in their order with living blood artists, usually abroad, and not tens of millions of dollars their condition is measured. And there is something to do. Therefore, as soon as they, as a class, lose power in Russia, a civilized Europe will say: “And you know, we are against corruption. It was yours, it became ours. ”

Beautiful state of Estonia. It had independence in the 20 century, in my opinion, 21 a year or so. During this time, it is either two, or three times completely confiscated someone else's property from its territory. Fully. In my opinion, it was German property twice.

But you know, people who now buy real estate and trust their money to a country with such intense confiscation experience are truly heroes, to whose courage I cannot help but take off my hat. These are people who believe in the European ideal, much more in European values ​​than Estonians believed in them since the time of the first Estonian independence ... ”.

Nevertheless, as The New York Times correctly notes, for twenty years Russia has been trying to become a full-fledged participant in the world economy and international financial institutions. Her money is already integrated into the financial system of the West. Sberbank and VTB have been actively expanding in Eastern Europe over the past ten years and owning assets in the United States, and one of Rosneft’s key Arctic oil projects is carried out jointly with the US Exxon Mobil.

Moreover, despite the "shale fever" in the United States, Europe will not live without Russian gas, and the world - without Russian oil. It has already been calculated that with a reduction in the supply of Russian oil to the world market, the price per month can rise to $ 300 per barrel. Even if the Arab, African and Latin American oil producers will work in four shifts.

Moreover, in business circles in Moscow they say that analysts of British Petroleum, in whose team of Igor Sechin is buying out Rosneft assets, in order not to have state assets connected with foreign capital, have already sounded the alarm. It turns out that pension funds that have traditionally invested in BP shares suffer because of a decrease in the total amount of dividends. Their incomes will also fall, and they will not pay the British pensioners extra.

As they wrote in one of the forums: “How many of the American financial advisers who feed at the expense of Russian companies and British pensioners know where this god-forgotten Ukraine is and whether it is on the Earth map at all? And who will then vote for politicians who have taken a tidbit of a sandwich with Russian caviar right from the mouth? ” Therefore, Western sanctions against Russia are a project unprofitable for both parties. And if for Putin he will be useful in the educational plan (as he allegedly said at the meeting, “it is necessary to invest in Russia, and not to buy houses in London”), then for the Western economy, which is built on dividend income, this is a worsening of audit reports .

Moscow financiers note: "Even we do not know where the assets of a particular Russian oligarch end and the assets of, say, the Rothschilds or Obama's sponsors on Wall Street begin." In addition, the American financial experts have only now noticed that their Russian colleagues were not doing nothing. And all the time while there was a stream of negativity associated with Ukraine and the Crimea, methodically redeemed the shares of Russian monopolies that had fallen in price from foreign funds. For example, Gazprom. And if there is no war (and Europe is hardly ready to go to a real military conflict with Russia), these actions will sooner or later rise in price. Dividends again go to Russia. In general, as in a joke: if the bride went to another, it is not yet known who was lucky ...
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  1. ziqzaq
    ziqzaq 15 March 2014 18: 20
    +66
    If it helps to "clean up" a handful of homosexuals who sold the country, then we can put GDP next to STALIN, Catherine the Great ...
    1. Mature naturalist
      Mature naturalist 15 March 2014 18: 25
      +101
      Quote: ziqzaq
      If it helps to "clean up" ...

      And now it's time for this gentleman to "ignore"
      1. Riperbahn
        Riperbahn 15 March 2014 18: 38
        +46
        I know this fagot - he sells wooden ... at the Kiev market. (C) Shirley-myrli movie
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        2. Thompson
          Thompson 16 March 2014 00: 23
          +7
          I also know, Mandarevich!
      2. ZU-23
        ZU-23 15 March 2014 18: 39
        +31
        Quote: Mature Naturalist
        And now it's time for this gentleman to "ignore"

        Yes, this finished creature has always been dissatisfied with any power.
      3. The comment was deleted.
      4. Lelek
        Lelek 15 March 2014 18: 56
        +12
        Let him go in the Himalayas for good negative
        1. dmitriygorshkov
          dmitriygorshkov 15 March 2014 20: 10
          +17
          Quote: Lelek
          Let him go in the Himalayas for good

          And an ice ax there, an ice ax!
          And what? There are precedents! wink
          1. StolzSS
            StolzSS 15 March 2014 20: 55
            +3
            What cruel you are))) Let him conquer the Himalayas, maybe the mountains will correct him or bury him)))
          2. vezunchik
            vezunchik 15 March 2014 22: 23
            +4
            Great idea to create the "Ice Ax Society" on the sanctions of the West!
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      5. Sunjar
        Sunjar 15 March 2014 18: 57
        +11
        The article has, like a grain of truth, and errors of a certain kind.

        Quote: Author
        the inevitable process is the end of the globalization of the elites.


        Globalization is an objective process of world integration, the essence of which boils down to concentrating the management of the productive forces of society in the same hands.

        And there will be no "end". It all depends on the manager's perception of the world. If the EU and the US believe that it is necessary to rob, exploit and generally drive into slavery those who are a little more uneven than themselves. And Russia has recently shown the possibility of another option, when everyone can coexist in abundance (do not confuse abundance with overconsumption). Other nations are already seeing this, both in the US and the EU. And the fact that some "kosyachnikov" and suckers decided to take the stolen goods does not mean that the entire elite will face a sad end. And in view of this, Delyagin also incorrectly states that "deglobalization" is underway. The fact that the elites need to be "cut" in the right amount, because other higher elites get less resources of all kinds, does not mean that this is a sign of "de-globolization"

        The author correctly writes about the integration of the economy of the whole planet. And the imposition of sanctions against Russia looks very funny. For example, if we compare our planet with a submarine, when everything is interconnected, and blocking one of the departments of the boat is absolutely unreasonable for the whole boat as a whole, because this block contains all food supplies in one part, and also a reactor with fuel in another part of the same block. And this block decides to show that if you soar your brains, then we turn off the reactor, and we will only eat ourselves. Naturally, you have to agree with the position of this block.
        And in view of this, to consider that globalization is evil and dictate is wrong. I repeat it all depends on the approach. If the approach is due to a moral approach to management, then everything will be fine, but if immoral, then like now crises, wars, the destruction of their own planet.
        1. neri73-r
          neri73-r 15 March 2014 21: 16
          +4
          and if immoral, then how are crises, wars, the destruction of their own planet.


          So after all, the Saxons do not want morally, they want to single-handedly, allowing only a few (guys from the Promised Land, not to be confused with this people, whom the rich relatives in the Second World War let under fascist knives and profited from this both financially and in the form of oh, us " all "cut, now do not touch, we are always right) to rule the world !!! And GDP is bending its line!
        2. Wellych
          Wellych 15 March 2014 21: 34
          +4
          Globalization is also monopolization - only in profile.

          In the process of achievement - everyone excitedly slaps themselves on the cheeks - and when the goal is achieved - monopoly - like a cancerous tumor destroys the host organism, and later on itself. The same thing will happen with globalization.

          Threat. My humble conclusion does not have to be true, because there was no chance to observe the completion of globalization, but it is full of examples of the collapse of large centralized systems.
          1. Sunjar
            Sunjar 15 March 2014 23: 35
            +3
            Quote: Wellych
            full of examples of the collapse of large centralized systems.


            By itself, nothing is crumbling, much less a super system. When there is a collapse, this is the result of a deterioration in the quality of management or the lack of leadership of the management. And all such expressions like the USSR itself fell apart, the rocket itself suddenly exploded like that, there is a method to confuse people so that they do not understand the essence of such issues.
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      7. ziqzaq
        ziqzaq 15 March 2014 18: 58
        +12
        Quote: Mature Naturalist
        And now it's time for this gentleman to "ignore"

        Yes, many ghouls like Novodvorskaya, Borovoy, Nemtsov, Khakomada, Chubais, Voloshin and others, and other time for socially useful work in the fresh air ....
        1. Mature naturalist
          Mature naturalist 15 March 2014 21: 38
          +15
          Quote: ziqzaq
          Yes, many ghouls like Novodvorskaya, Borovoy, Nemtsov, Khakomada, Chubais, Voloshin and others, and other

          Here they are. Not everything is true:







          1. Mature naturalist
            Mature naturalist 15 March 2014 23: 36
            +18
            Clever beauty...
            1. Makatun
              Makatun 16 March 2014 08: 07
              +3
              rare! I remember from the 90s. If only to wheeze against the authorities. Be it "tagged", "drunken director" or VVP
              1. ochakow703
                ochakow703 16 March 2014 10: 04
                +2
                This lives ... for the greater - neither mind nor beauty.
              2. Akuzenka
                Akuzenka 16 March 2014 13: 16
                +1
                You look at it ...., and you understand that Ivan the Fool will never be found on her. And thank God. A peasant would be sorry for the whole country and residents of the near abroad.
            2. novobranets
              novobranets 16 March 2014 13: 07
              +5
              Well, you need to warn. I almost choked on tea, splattered the keyboard. belay
            3. v53993
              v53993 16 March 2014 20: 12
              0
              Lieutenant general
              Mature naturalist (1) RU Yesterday, 23:36 p.m. ↑

              Clever beauty...

              Worse than nuclear war
          2. pvv113
            pvv113 16 March 2014 13: 34
            +6
            HERE HERE ALL Govno AND FLOATED
      8. dmitriygorshkov
        dmitriygorshkov 15 March 2014 20: 09
        +12
        Quote: Mature Naturalist
        And now it's time for this gentleman to "ignore"

        Yes, yes to ignore! And yet, what is in his hands to shove him in the anus, and not as he loves, but sideways!
      9. Orik
        Orik 15 March 2014 20: 35
        +12
        Quote: Mature Naturalist
        Quote: ziqzaq
        If it helps to "clean up" ...

        And now it's time for this gentleman to "ignore"

        I didn’t even think that in Russia there are so many ... kills.
      10. Rus2012
        Rus2012 15 March 2014 20: 40
        +10
        Quote: Mature Naturalist
        And now it's time for this gentleman to "ignore"

        one more freak, remember it Crimeans -
        The declared anti-war picket took place in Yekaterinburg, the participants of which spoke out against the occupation of Ukraine, the annexation of Crimea and for peace with the fraternal republic.

        As the correspondent of URA.Ru reports, the head of the event, as expected, was the head of Yekaterinburg, Yevgeny Roizman. The politician went to Labor Square, where about 400 people gathered.


        1. Mature naturalist
          Mature naturalist 15 March 2014 21: 43
          +3
          He is not Ivanov, but Roizman.
      11. Rus2012
        Rus2012 15 March 2014 20: 47
        +4
        Quote: Mature Naturalist
        And now it's time for this gentleman to "ignore"

        not only ignore, but also persona non grata in the Crimea!
        Schop legs were not !!!
      12. platitsyn70
        platitsyn70 15 March 2014 21: 22
        +12
        I thought he was a man he ........
        And now it's time for this gentleman to "ignore"
        1. not main
          not main 16 March 2014 00: 54
          +4
          Quote: platitsyn70
          and I thought he was a man and he ........

          a fool!
        2. Lesmed2
          Lesmed2 16 March 2014 19: 44
          +1
          I also considered him a man ... and such a disappointment ....
      13. Moon bird
        Moon bird 15 March 2014 22: 21
        +11
        for a start - let them close the "Smack", with Urgant, who has zadolbav all over, the money trickle then at the Makarka will immediately decrease.
        but in general, Podgorodetsky wrote well about him in "The Machine with the Jews."
      14. mihasik
        mihasik 16 March 2014 00: 45
        +3
        Drowned Makar, a pear disease, however. Well, what can you take from a patient.
      15. Azzzwer
        Azzzwer 16 March 2014 00: 49
        +3
        Quote: Mature Naturalist
        mister's time "to ignore"
        because 3.14 gift .. !!
      16. Gronsky
        Gronsky 16 March 2014 01: 09
        +6
        Quote: Mature Naturalist
        And now it's time for this gentleman to "ignore"

        Yes, Andrusha was clearly inflamed, made the wrong choice. At such moments, one must be for one’s homeland without a second word, and only then can one be criticized.
        Well, yes, and H.E. with him. For me, he died.
      17. AVV
        AVV 16 March 2014 10: 47
        +1
        Quote: Mature Naturalist
        Quote: ziqzaq
        If it helps to "clean up" ...

        And now it's time for this gentleman to "ignore"

        Makarevich in the USSR was dissatisfied, and now dissatisfied, sang with the Nemtsovs, Novodvorsky and any other shu.shera, the impression is that he has brains not Russian, but Western !!! All this Swampy mud lives and eats money from Western NCOs, and what not a business !!! Admirers of Makar fell sharply, everything is in trouble !!! He does not give a damn about the inhabitants of Crimea, he decides only his selfish affairs !!!
      18. Arkon
        Arkon 16 March 2014 13: 46
        +3
        And remember how in the 80s they were looking for "depth" in his songs.

        Imagine what a cheap bargain they got us ...
      19. Arthur 775
        Arthur 775 16 March 2014 19: 08
        +1
        Ma-car pi-de-rast, Ma-car pi-de-rast. It’s even good that the macaroons and the swamp compass appeared, I will know who to cook the aspen stake !!!
        BANDERLOGS.
      20. aleksandrs95
        aleksandrs95 16 March 2014 23: 36
        -1
        he was deeply tired of us, of popularity, and found a wonderful reason to retire on a quiet retirement. I think he can be understood HOW WE ARE WITH YOU. LET RELAX.
    2. Mature naturalist
      Mature naturalist 15 March 2014 18: 30
      +24
      I repeat my post yesterday:

      LIGHTNING: Are foreigners getting ready for a record discharge of US GKOs?
      Last week, the volume of US GKOs, which lies with the Fed on behalf of foreign Central Banks, fell by $ 104 yards cut, which is an absolute historical record. Formally, such a conclusion is not an immediate drain on the secondary market, but, at a minimum, it is a necessary stage of preparation before the direct discharge

      According to Wrightson ICAP experts, Russia could transfer its securities to an offshore depository due to the threat of sanctions from Western countries

      Who if not us?
    3. nokki
      nokki 15 March 2014 18: 31
      +47
      I agree! I have written about this many times. By the way, many security officials say that if everything works out with Ukraine, they will clean up all the trash that "rose" in the 90s. God grant!
      1. dmitriygorshkov
        dmitriygorshkov 15 March 2014 20: 17
        +6
        Dear nokki (1) RU, heart balm!
        Do you mean the trash that we got?
      2. Orik
        Orik 15 March 2014 20: 41
        +10
        Quote: nokki
        I agree! I have written about this many times. By the way, many security officials say that if everything works out with Ukraine, they will clean up all the trash that "rose" in the 90s. God grant!

        I'd like to believe in the article itself does not really correspond to the topic. The key question is, who will be put in their place? If there are people of the second echelon, then it will be sewn to soap, but no third-party forces (as in the early 2000s, when the security forces, bureaucracy and big capital were introduced into the elite). If someone thinks that everything is so simple, I’m upset, the change of elite is the most (!!!) difficult and dangerous process.
        PS
        For many-armed security officials, they themselves don’t want a snout in fluff.
    4. jjj
      jjj 15 March 2014 18: 42
      +9
      Processes in this direction are already underway. In the near future it will be possible to correct a lot under the "noise of a kettle" At the same time, politely enough
    5. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 15 March 2014 18: 51
      +13
      "and only the great power of the Russian raw materials economy could withstand such a blow"
      - They began to rip off people with a double zeal in order to return the missing
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 15 March 2014 20: 49
        +8
        "In Moscow, Putin's meeting with the oligarchs is widely discussed. They say he asked them about the sanctions. To which the oligarchs replied: we are no stranger. There was a Magnitsky list, we survived Cyprus, and we will somehow survive Crimea.
        "
        So I think ... But will you ever turn to the citizens of the Russian Federation, GDP? Well, to explain the situation purely, to tell what is going to do, to indicate your position? And then I already met with all the oligarchs, I discussed something, but I forgot about the People!
        look for example:
        Putin explained to the EU the situation around Ukraine
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IlL89eU-bw
        Putin explained to Ukraine who is to blame for high gas prices
        http://news.bigmir.net/world_about_us/419070
        Vladimir Putin explained to Viktor Yanukovych why it will be difficult for Ukraine to get gas cheaper

        Read on: http://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/news/2280120/putin_obyasnil_chem_ukraina_otlich
        aetsya_ot_germanii # ixzz2w3RC0Y7M

        Putin explained to Azarov why Ukrainians "drink blood" from Russians
        http://www.segodnya.ua/ukraine/putin-objacnil-azarovu-pochemu-ukraintsy-pjut-kro
        vu-roccijan.html

        In short, he explained everything to everyone, only forgot to explain it to the Russians!
        Everything seems to be doing right with Ukraine, it seems to be in the interests of the People, but why does he explain everything to everyone, even to the oligarchs, and doesn’t explain anything to the People?
        1. Associate Professor
          Associate Professor 16 March 2014 00: 18
          0
          Quote: S_mirnov
          Moscow widely discuss Putin's meeting with oligarchs

          And when this meeting took place. You came up with something. there wasn’t
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 16 March 2014 00: 58
            0
            Quote: Docent
            And when this meeting took place. You came up with something. there wasn’t


            Read the news here!
            http://topwar.ru/41481-krym-pomozhet-putinu-v-nacionalizacii-elity.html
            link to an article in Grani. Ru - blocked
            http://grani.ru/Politics/Russia/m.226638.html
            HZ, maybe a duck, or maybe an information war. what
            The remaining links are valid, in short, my opinion, in principle, does not change!
            1. Russ69
              Russ69 16 March 2014 01: 03
              +1
              Quote: S_mirnov
              I read the news from Rambler
              link to an article in Grani. Ru - blocked
              http://grani.ru/Politics/Russia/m.226638.html
              HZ, maybe a duck, or maybe an information war

              Facets. Ru, this is not the print organ that should be believed at all, or at least right away ...
              1. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 16 March 2014 01: 16
                +1
                Quote: Russ69
                Facets. Roo, this is not the print organ to believe.

                and the military review on which we sit worthy of trust?

                http://topwar.ru/41481-krym-pomozhet-putinu-v-nacionalizacii-elity.html
                "The Ukrainian-Russian conflict has become a catalyst for the inevitable process - the end of the globalization of the elites. In Moscow, Putin's meeting with the oligarchs is widely discussed. They say he asked them about the sanctions. To which the oligarchs replied: we are no stranger. There was a Magnitsky list, Cyprus survived, well and we will somehow survive the Crimea. "
        2. vjatsergey
          vjatsergey 16 March 2014 00: 40
          +2
          I do not always agree with S_mironov, but here I fully support it.
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 16 March 2014 01: 05
            +3
            Quote: vjatsergey
            I do not always agree with S_mironov, but here I fully support it.

            Oh, and thanks!
            In fact, the fate of the country is not decided on blogs, only steam is released here!
            Remember the phrase - "Machete is not esemesit!" wink
        3. Shaki's memory
          Shaki's memory 16 March 2014 03: 04
          +2
          wink tell me and you need to explain why Sevastopol RUSSIAN city or do you remember? Or do you need to explain that Ukrainians are still not enemies and not banderlogs but their own .. kindred .. I DO NOT NEED IT, I KNOW IT AND I AM!
        4. Mairos
          Mairos 16 March 2014 15: 50
          0
          We are not oligarchs, we ourselves understand everything. )) Or you need to explain to someone7
    6. valokordin
      valokordin 16 March 2014 12: 08
      -3
      Quote: ziqzaq
      If it helps to "clean up" a handful of homosexuals who sold the country, then we can put GDP next to STALIN, Catherine the Great ...

      GDP will not help, since it is one of them.
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  2. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 15 March 2014 18: 22
    +19
    For the majority of Russians, this "elite" is worse than the fascists - they can also end up playing with electric soldering irons in ...
    1. sashppppp
      sashppppp 15 March 2014 18: 41
      +6
      I agree, they finish the game, a matter of time
    2. sashppppp
      sashppppp 15 March 2014 18: 41
      +2
      I agree, they finish the game, a matter of time
  3. CCCP 2.0
    CCCP 2.0 15 March 2014 18: 24
    +2
    interesting article
  4. ra3eJIeBog
    ra3eJIeBog 15 March 2014 18: 25
    +6
    May the Americans do good to us.
  5. Chifka
    Chifka 15 March 2014 18: 26
    +18
    Many Russian politicians and businessmen have assets abroad. Imposition of sanctions is a clear signal: Hope. ladies and gentlemen, only for your country and, accordingly, work for it, because if anything, you will be needed by the West, like an umbrella with fish ...
    1. SSR
      SSR 15 March 2014 18: 46
      +7
      Quote: Chifka
      Many Russian politicians and businessmen have assets abroad. Imposition of sanctions is a clear signal: Hope. ladies and gentlemen, only for your country and, accordingly, work for it, because if anything, you will be needed by the West, like an umbrella with fish ...

      The crisis of 2008 was, so to speak, life-giving for Russia and shook the office plankton, this "crisis" should shake up the business "elite" and everything connected with it.
    2. Orik
      Orik 15 March 2014 20: 43
      +3
      Quote: Chifka
      Many Russian politicians and businessmen have assets abroad. Imposition of sanctions is a clear signal: Hope. ladies and gentlemen, only for your country and, accordingly, work for it, because if anything, you will be needed by the West, like an umbrella with fish ...

      And you asked them if they consider Russia their strange?
  6. Riperbahn
    Riperbahn 15 March 2014 18: 29
    +31
    We redeem our assets in the West again. I will survive a depreciation of the ruble if it benefits my country. I'm a patriot.
    1. Orik
      Orik 15 March 2014 20: 45
      +10
      Quote: Riperbahn
      We redeem our assets in the West again. I will survive a depreciation of the ruble if it benefits my country. I'm a patriot.

      All patriots will survive, and Bandrovskaya shoblu are ready to go to crush. The main thing is that it does not happen that we will worry, and the "elite" cash in on the course races!
  7. ZU-23
    ZU-23 15 March 2014 18: 31
    +2
    Our comrades were so stolen by the people that only excessive greed can resent them, of course they will survive any sanctions.
  8. wasjasibirjac
    wasjasibirjac 15 March 2014 18: 34
    +2
    article plus. I wonder if sanctions will still be introduced, or will they only scare us?
  9. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 15 March 2014 18: 37
    +3
    And if it turns out to be useful for Putin in terms of education (as he allegedly said at the meeting, “you need to invest in Russia, not buy yourself a house in London”),

    How much only in educational, I think as president he is also interested in the economic plan.
  10. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 15 March 2014 18: 37
    +35
    What patriot can be from a person taking his tenge abroad and buying villas, football clubs, yachts there? This is a thief, a traitor, an insignificance. A true patriot will work for the good of his country, raise it, and not plunder. Therefore, for me personally, the oligarchs in their current form are not of interest as an individual. Consequently, their assets should be nationalized, and someone else needs to lumber the forest in Siberia. Joseph Vissarionovich would have done so.
    This is my personal opinion, may not coincide with the opinion of others. For for me the good of the country is higher than personal well-being.
    1. White5
      White5 15 March 2014 20: 17
      +2
      An exception to the rule exists. Shtirlitsa was also considered by many to be a German henchman, but it turned out. In the first term of Putin, who could guess from the common people that Russia would rise from the ashes. Time will tell. Yanukovych also turned out to be an interesting fruit.
      1. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 15 March 2014 20: 21
        +9
        Are you saying that Boria Abramovich, by buying Chelsea, undermined the economy of the United Kingdom? And did his yachts form a separate squadron of the Northern Fleet? Don't tell my horseshoes laughing
        1. gispanec
          gispanec 16 March 2014 12: 28
          0
          Quote: Rurikovich
          that Boria Abramovich, by buying Chelsea, undermined the economy of the United Kingdom? And did his yachts form a separate squadron of the Northern Fleet?

          You just do not understand ... Chelsea is thinking ... so to speak, a special unit behind enemy lines))) ...
  11. major071
    major071 15 March 2014 18: 38
    +23
    Very entertaining article. If Putin really had a meeting with money bags and they supported him about sanctions, then we turned the United States together with the EU. yes Hats off to VV Putin, who is playing a great chess game. hi
    1. Orik
      Orik 15 March 2014 20: 52
      +2
      Quote: major071
      Very entertaining article. If Putin really had a meeting with money bags and they supported him about sanctions, then we turned the United States together with the EU. yes Hats off to VV Putin, who is playing a great chess game. hi

      I don’t know, until today they only sawed and acquired, but how will fat cats behave when they will have to lose ?! I doubt very much that they are ready for this. Take, for example, Friedman: he was part of the seven-bankers (for 2000 I didn’t find data) for 2003 4,3 billion green paper, today it’s 20,8 billion 4,8 times, I think the results of the others are similar.
  12. sPS
    sPS 15 March 2014 18: 40
    +7
    here it is a real fight against corruption poor servants of the people can become participants in the series (the rich also cry) lol
  13. delfinN
    delfinN 15 March 2014 18: 43
    +14
    Quote: Mature Naturalist
    And now it's time for this gentleman to ignore "

    In. He took off his glasses and hat - he immediately became recognizable. And then Andryukha, no, x ... understand.
    1. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov 15 March 2014 20: 27
      +3
      Especially in the topic of a pillowcase on a hero’s chest! Although the rings ... I even dreamed about how to use them!
      Thanks delfinN SU, as always in the topic !!!
    2. v53993
      v53993 16 March 2014 20: 20
      0
      He took off his glasses and hat - he immediately became recognizable. And then Andryukha, no, x ... understand.


      P.I.d.O.R., Do not show to children.
  14. the polar
    the polar 15 March 2014 18: 44
    +15
    What a stupid term "nationalization of the elite".
    A thief is a thief, no matter what nationality he is.
    And if promissory notes and Deripaska with Freedman, saving their looted billions will drag them back to Russia, should the people cry from tenderness ?, And in the event of war send their sons to death, protecting this gang?
    In my opinion, the only right decision is to confiscate the loot by the oligarchs, then the West will calm down and will not open its mouth to the unjustly acquired wealth roaming the world. In the state treasury they will be safer than in Western banks, on the accounts of oligarchs.
    1. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 15 March 2014 19: 46
      +2
      Quote: Polar
      In the state treasury they will be safer than in Western banks

      Not a fact, not a fact, starting with Serdyukov and ending with the Olympics. They saw and plunder with terrible force. And what’s interesting, they say: there is no money, they disappeared .... in an unknown direction. Although, if you want to find them, like two fingers ... ..
    2. dizelniy
      dizelniy 15 March 2014 20: 43
      +3
      Support, stole and dragged everything for the cordon to call the elite? Fear God.
    3. dizelniy
      dizelniy 15 March 2014 20: 43
      +1
      Support, stole and dragged everything for the cordon to call the elite? Fear God.
    4. AVIATOR36662
      AVIATOR36662 15 March 2014 23: 23
      -5
      You don’t have to be Sharikovs. Although you need to study a little (but it will take some time) political economy so as not to flog such rubbish. The country's economy and the state cannot develop normally without private capital and private property.
  15. individual
    individual 15 March 2014 18: 47
    +3
    It is time for us to get used to the idea that the quality of life does not depend on the public opinion of Americans.
    And we still live for ourselves, for our children.
    So let's think about how to improve our lives, and not about how they write about it in America.
  16. karpov888
    karpov888 15 March 2014 18: 48
    +3
    I agree completely, it’s good that awareness of everything that happens will allow us to draw conclusions not only for business, but also for officials.
    1. Orik
      Orik 15 March 2014 20: 56
      +2
      Quote: karpov888
      I agree completely, it’s good that awareness of everything that happens will allow us to draw conclusions not only for business, but also for officials.

      Do not believe in fairy tales, most try to make only one conclusion, how best to save the loot.
  17. svetlomor
    svetlomor 15 March 2014 18: 49
    +3
    And then they are about .... whether I take off my hat, if it is true of course.
  18. a52333
    a52333 15 March 2014 18: 49
    +6
    The nationalization of elites is worse than just nationalization, but better than nothing. what
  19. Alex
    Alex 15 March 2014 18: 50
    +9
    The article is very interesting. One more point will not be touched. The introduction of sanctions will finally force our businessmen to invest in the development of domestic industry and urgently organize import substitution. Otherwise, it does not seem to force them. If this happens, the Americans will have to say thank you very much.
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    2. fif21
      fif21 15 March 2014 19: 26
      +14
      Without chips, Coca-Cola, Bush legs, Ford cars, Opel, Mercedes, paper cigarettes, crappy moonshine Whiskey, Brandy, will we die ??? Do not tell my slippers!
      We will eat potatoes, natural chicken, ride Chinese and Japanese cars, smoke Cuban tobacco, and drink Russian vodka and moonshine. And most importantly, we will learn how and where to store our money and where to invest it. Kotu Basilio (America) and Fox Alice (EU)
      you can’t trust your soldiers, they’re stealing and don’t frown. But seriously, I propose legislatively tightening the ban on the actions of non-profit organizations financed from abroad, storing state funds, government officials and state corporations far from their homeland, acquiring property abroad, and storing money in foreign currency.
  20. W1950
    W1950 15 March 2014 18: 54
    +14
    It remains a little to clean the fifth column.
    1. Orik
      Orik 15 March 2014 20: 57
      +3
      Quote: W1950
      It remains a little to clean the fifth column.

      This is the most difficult, but Stalin did not finish it!
  21. Riperbahn
    Riperbahn 15 March 2014 18: 57
    +15
    I'm not a pro-presidential goblin. But in the current environment-glory to Putin!
    1. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 16 March 2014 23: 09
      0
      Quote: Riperbahn
      Glory to Putin!

      Glory to the hero!
      Now put things in order at home, otherwise people will not understand
  22. ZU-23
    ZU-23 15 March 2014 19: 03
    +9
    In general, from a psychological point of view, these disgruntled squeaks because their already falling rating falls even lower than the baseboard, I look even people haven’t taken it that way, people are becoming more politicized and, against the background of great politicians, the stars just fade and become uninteresting.
  23. Platov
    Platov 15 March 2014 19: 09
    +8
    In China, even the triad keeps money at home, it’s patriotic what not to borrow from them, we would have such patriotism.
    1. White5
      White5 15 March 2014 20: 21
      +3
      Only real Grandmasters play on several boards at once.
      1. AVIATOR36662
        AVIATOR36662 15 March 2014 23: 25
        +1
        Wonderful expression!
  24. tank64rus
    tank64rus 15 March 2014 19: 13
    +8
    During this week, the GDP has already "shod" three oligarchs, two Ukrainian punished a lot of blather, and one of ours got stolen.
    1. Riperbahn
      Riperbahn 15 March 2014 19: 18
      +3
      More on personalities.
  25. AlexA
    AlexA 15 March 2014 19: 19
    +5
    Quote: Polar
    In the state treasury they will be safer than in Western banks, on the accounts of oligarchs.

    Good. Just a necessary clarification: it is still necessary to put things in order in the treasury. And then the heads of "state" companies such as Yakunin, Miller and others have incomes much higher than in private companies (there were reports of hundreds of millions of rubles a year alone). And the spending of these companies is often prohibitive through controlled private companies.
    And it's not out of envy. These private individuals are brought out abroad and are used for parasitic consumption. And in the villages, hospitals and schools are closed; allegedly "there is no money" for roads or gasification; retirement or nursing salary.
    But so far, intentions to restore order in the treasury, unfortunately, have not been observed.
    1. the polar
      the polar 16 March 2014 07: 32
      +1
      Quote: AlexA
      Quote: Polar
      In the state treasury they will be safer than in Western banks, on the accounts of oligarchs.

      Good. Just a necessary clarification: it is still necessary to put things in order in the treasury. And then the heads of "state" companies such as Yakunin, Miller and others have incomes much higher than in private companies (there were reports of hundreds of millions of rubles a year alone). And the spending of these companies is often prohibitive through controlled private companies.
      And it's not out of envy. These private individuals are brought out abroad and are used for parasitic consumption. And in the villages, hospitals and schools are closed; allegedly "there is no money" for roads or gasification; retirement or nursing salary.
      But so far, intentions to restore order in the treasury, unfortunately, have not been observed.

      Yes, that's about this and the conversation that thieves can only be disposed of, but not nationalized in any way. A thief should be in jail, not in a "fur store".
  26. 17085
    17085 15 March 2014 19: 20
    +16
    Yesterday at the end of the working day, I watch my good friend Pole - a welder, finish his job, admire, a master from God. The naglossax comes up, the boss, shakes the rag. "What should I do if the SGA introduce saktsii against Russia," he asks. I said: "Fire the Poles, because without metal you no longer need welders." ALL metal at the MADE IN CHEBOKSARY shipyard.
    wassat
  27. ksenofont7
    ksenofont7 15 March 2014 19: 20
    +3
    good article hi Glory to Putin!
  28. S-17
    S-17 15 March 2014 19: 32
    +3
    Quote: ZU-23
    Quote: Mature Naturalist
    And now it's time for this gentleman to "ignore"

    Yes, this finished creature has always been dissatisfied with any power.

    Well, not true. Here Bonya and Co. was very attractive to him.
  29. VeteranS
    VeteranS 15 March 2014 19: 55
    +6
    In Russia, some liberals and Western slime-makers cried that the poor oligarch Khodorkovsky, who had stolen billions of dollars from the Russians, was imprisoned for a very long time .... Putin pardoned the unfortunate .... and he immediately ran to the Maidan to support the illegal power of Bandera and accuse Russia in all mortal sins. God be his Judge. The sooner people like him leave Russia, the better our air will be, and we will live better!
    1. White5
      White5 15 March 2014 20: 24
      +2
      He was specially sent. ;-)
      1. dmitriygorshkov
        dmitriygorshkov 15 March 2014 20: 47
        +2
        Quote: White5
        He was specially sent. ;-)

        Mission details do not declassify us?
        I also know if it’s not the pro-Putin troll, more than that 3 months ago it was totally wrong with him! And now I think with horror that the constitution must be urgently redone if you change the GDP at the helm of the country ... even imagine it’s scary in today's realities!
        As for Hodor, this is another proof of the correct GDP policy, like I didn’t want, you asked, well, okay! Get it!
  30. LLIpaM
    LLIpaM 15 March 2014 20: 01
    0
    The answer to the title of the article is of course NO! This is a real answer, not a dream that many people now have in connection with the influx of patriotic feelings. Yes, our leadership woke up bright patriotic feelings, but as they considered us, ordinary people, as "inferior" meaningless creatures, they will consider it, because look at the internal policy of the leadership, it is the same - the slow decay of the country and all the peoples of our Motherland, none of the large ghouls sat down, none left power.
    Let's hope that Crimea with its plans for the nationalization of those resources and property that should be state-owned (I mean, the state should be synonymous with the word people, and not like ours), by definition, will not stupor from its plans, including to build a fair and lawful order on its territory and will show the rest of Russia what it really should be and in the next elections, really worthy people will appear in our country who will have similar laws and plans proposed today as Crimean deputies, and our present tip will go into oblivion, or in places not so remote as they say.
    As I said, I don’t hope to bring about drastic changes in the minds of our politicians, but I really want the Ukrainian events to finally push our powerful people to at least do things like equate fascism in our country with criminal acts and take marsh and the fifth column, and not otmazyvat them from all sorts of Kirovograd affairs in the forest and prohibit all sorts of anti-Russian media.
  31. mvv
    mvv 15 March 2014 20: 15
    +4
    good article. It’s useful to read aloud somewhere in the geyvrop. with comments from a lawyer and financier. You look at Merkel as Berezovsky strangles himself. from unbearable shame.
  32. Thomas
    Thomas 15 March 2014 20: 35
    +5
    Cool article! It's nice to read the opinion of economists for the sake of completeness of the general picture of what is happening.
  33. Serebryakov. 75
    Serebryakov. 75 15 March 2014 20: 37
    +8
    Russia has become part of the global economy, but at the same time it has reliable air defense, which does not allow it to dictate conditions from a position of strength.
  34. Rork
    Rork 15 March 2014 20: 53
    -14%
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/044/bxwa875.jpg
    1. Cherdak
      Cherdak 15 March 2014 23: 57
      +6
      It's a shame, young man, you need to have a conscience at least a little.
      And troll to the Western sites
    2. Russ69
      Russ69 16 March 2014 01: 07
      +1
      Quote: Rork
      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/044/bxwa875.jpg


      This composition of the rally (which is from the left) is always the same and about the same composition. A mixture of liberals, Natsik and fagots who rally for any reason against the GDP.
  35. disa
    disa 15 March 2014 21: 07
    +1
    Well, in general, we played with "capitalism" and that's enough, however ... robbery nobody likes this fact.
  36. Karabin
    Karabin 15 March 2014 21: 13
    +6
    ... Reflections of the girl after talking at lunch in a Moscow French restaurant, viewing forums and opinions of some "Moscow financiers". No sanctions against Russia will nationalize the elite. The elite cannot be changed, it can only be replaced.
  37. w2000
    w2000 15 March 2014 21: 13
    +5
    What is needed is not the "nationalization" of the elite, but the nationalization of what they have stolen. The ordinary Russian person is not close to the philosophy of top managers who talk about their financial risks while eating oysters in Moscow restaurants and referring to the "authoritative opinion" of the enchanting schizophrenic and oligophrenic Delyagin.
  38. Ivan 63
    Ivan 63 15 March 2014 21: 45
    +2
    Russia will not be able to achieve global development under capitalism, this is a fact, as well as the fact that capitalism itself is degenerating into its continuation (natural and inevitable) - into fascism. Of course, the private sector is necessary (services, etc.) So, if the question of the very existence of the country is on the verge, then a conclusion is inevitable. And this, of course, is not the way of the West; there, in any situation, we will be a game.
  39. aud13
    aud13 15 March 2014 22: 14
    +4
    "Nationalization of the elites"
    If this "elite" is engaged in the fact that they got on the "pipe" created in the Soviet Union and are simply milked from the fact that raw materials are transported to the west, then in reality it is not an elite.
    If they contributed to the creation of something modern in Russia, then the elite of Russia could proudly say about them.
    Maybe in the analysis of the current Ukrainian crisis, our leaders will understand that, from squandering natural resources, the West gets more benefits, and not our country. And after that they will begin to really develop the domestic market. So that manufacturers of machinery, equipment, technologies, and agricultural producers are finally in a better position than those who stupidly drive unprocessed raw materials abroad.
  40. vezunchik
    vezunchik 15 March 2014 22: 26
    +3
    “If the United States really applies the promised sanctions against Russia, for example, freeing them from enslaving obligations under the WTO and freezing foreign assets of corrupt officials, they will do us the best service for all the time of bilateral relations, more important than Lend-Lease. Therefore, if they deceive us, they will have to be punished in all severity: from the closure of the NATO base near Ulyanovsk and the expulsion of American business from the country to the abandonment of dollars in foreign trade ... ”,
    CLOSE NETWORK AMERICAN COMPANIES (EVAN, MARY KAY, AMVEY), MACDONALDS AND OTHER DALANDA, DRAWING HUGE MONEY FROM THE COUNTRY, MARMON SEND BACK, NOT ABOUT US.
    YOU NEED TO WORK FOR YOUR COUNTRY,
  41. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 15 March 2014 23: 00
    +3
    In June 2002 V.Putin "You will choke on the dust and swallow, running around the courts to unblock them!"
  42. msv
    msv 16 March 2014 00: 39
    +4
    Quote: S_mirnov
    "In Moscow, Putin's meeting with the oligarchs is widely discussed. They say he asked them about the sanctions. To which the oligarchs replied: we are no stranger. There was a Magnitsky list, we survived Cyprus, and we will somehow survive Crimea.
    "
    So I think ... But will you ever turn to the citizens of the Russian Federation, GDP? Well, to explain the situation purely, to tell what is going to do, to indicate your position? And then I already met with all the oligarchs, I discussed something, but I forgot about the People!
    look for example:
    Putin explained to the EU the situation around Ukraine
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IlL89eU-bw
    Putin explained to Ukraine who is to blame for high gas prices
    http://news.bigmir.net/world_about_us/419070
    Vladimir Putin explained to Viktor Yanukovych why it will be difficult for Ukraine to get gas cheaper

    Read on: http://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/news/2280120/putin_obyasnil_chem_ukraina_otlich

    aetsya_ot_germanii # ixzz2w3RC0Y7M

    Putin explained to Azarov why Ukrainians "drink blood" from Russians
    http://www.segodnya.ua/ukraine/putin-objacnil-azarovu-pochemu-ukraintsy-pjut-kro

    vu-roccijan.html

    In short, he explained everything to everyone, only forgot to explain it to the Russians!
    Everything seems to be doing right with Ukraine, it seems to be in the interests of the People, but why does he explain everything to everyone, even to the oligarchs, and doesn’t explain anything to the People?


    The media is just verbal diarrhea. I often watch and listen to the news (as everyone cares about Ukraine). Radio to conduct FM- every day survey: are sanctions scary? Do I need to send troops? Do I need to connect the Crimea? Ordinary inhabitants, each with their own belfry, sometimes give startling answers. And I think that it’s good that one person accepts or not introduces troops having more complete information about the state of affairs and the consequences of a decision, while being vested with responsibility for the entire state. It would be fun to see if the decision to send troops would be made based on the results of Internet voting.
    That's how I see how Putin turned to the people to explain the complexity of the situation, to report on what he did, and of course on what and how he plans to do. After all, people want to know.
    Like children, by golly.
    And yet, as a rule, the oligarchs and the business as a whole are generally condemned, as a rule, those who are far from both the business itself and the economy in general, about the same as the Decembrists from the people.
    1. Reks
      Reks 16 March 2014 00: 57
      +2
      Quote: msv
      The media is just verbal diarrhea.
      ... it seems that many of the young journalists are complete losers like pros. They will spoil any good report, with what they think are "smart" comments. negative
  43. Mviktor
    Mviktor 16 March 2014 00: 47
    +4
    Quote: Pilat2009
    "and only the great power of the Russian raw materials economy could withstand such a blow"
    - They began to rip off people with a double zeal in order to return the missing


    Some electricity limits are worth something, these creatures want to solve their problems at the expense of the people
  44. s1н7т
    s1н7т 16 March 2014 01: 11
    +2
    I join all those who are for the nationalization of the "privatized", and the "elites" can blame on all four sides! angry
  45. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 16 March 2014 03: 22
    +1
    Oligarchs, okay, "they are no stranger to" - where will Filya Kirkorov "give birth" now? lol
  46. zinander
    zinander 16 March 2014 09: 40
    +1
    Quote: Mature Naturalist

    And now it's time for this gentleman to "ignore"
    To be honest, I did not expect that this clown with them. Now Ignore definitely.
  47. lexe
    lexe 16 March 2014 11: 04
    0
    Polite people, polite money ... as much as a whole eggplant)
  48. Sonik
    Sonik 16 March 2014 11: 44
    0
    Quote: Mature Naturalist
    Clever beauty...

    sick of ..
  49. Check mark
    Check mark 16 March 2014 11: 46
    +1
    The EU and the USA are not the whole world. Sanctions will certainly do much harm. But isolation is theoretically not possible. Not those times. At the expense of tourism .. A lot of the most beautiful countries outside the EU. I think the Russians should draw conclusions. You should not feed those countries that are tourism they also have the audacity to threaten us with sanctions. Russians will find other interesting routes for recreation. and business ..
    Makarevich ... did not expect .. indignant ..
    1. chehywed
      chehywed 16 March 2014 18: 33
      +1
      Quote: Checkmark
      .Very many beautiful countries outside the EU

      Checkmark, you have no idea how many beautiful places are in the Urals, Siberia, Karelia ... Yes, in any corner of Russia. We wander around "abroad", but we do not see and do not know our country!
  50. valokordin
    valokordin 16 March 2014 12: 11
    +1
    All tourists do not travel to Europe. The Mediterranean Sea washes not only the EU, but also Montenegro.
    1. v53993
      v53993 16 March 2014 20: 18
      0
      All tourists do not travel to Europe. The Mediterranean Sea washes not only the EU, but also Montenegro.

      Only after our soldier, when he will wet his boots there.