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"Russia will take the ring"

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"Russia will take the ring"16 March in Crimea held a referendum that will decide the fate of autonomy. Historian, writer and journalist Lev Lurie told Rosbalt about what awaits the Russians after this significant date.


- Lev Yakovlevich, in your opinion, what will be the results and consequences of a referendum in the Crimea?

- I think that the referendum results are predetermined. The majority of the population of Crimea wants to leave poor Ukraine to rich Russia. Tatars will vote against, but their 12%. Russia will not yield to Crimea - this is completely obvious. And Ukraine has already recognized his loss. But I am afraid that after that the Russian authorities will receive permission for any “hacks”. We will be able to take everything that is bad lies. There are plenty of opportunities to further expand the Russian land. Actually, was Belorussia once Belorus? This is an artificial product of the 1922 alliance treaty of the year. Or Narva, or Transnistria, or the area of ​​Daugavpils? Russians live there too. Russia, it gives a feeling of permissiveness. This was in the past. We can recall the accession of Poland, the North Caucasus, Finland, Manchuria. Many times we took the territory, which we then choked, which could not digest.

- Will Russia be able to "digest" the Crimea?

- There is nothing to digest there, but the problem lies in the precedent that changes the rules. We have created a new way to redistribute the world, first of all, Europe, which cannot suit anyone. Indeed, the Hungarians in Romania and Slovakia can now enter Hungary, the Serbs in Bosnia and Herzegovina can go to Serbia, and the Catalans can declare themselves an independent state. The problem is that in 1991, for various reasons, we agreed on the inviolability of the borders of the CIS countries. Nobody, in fact, pulled our tongues. Vladimir Vladimirovich was then deputy mayor of St. Petersburg, that is, part of the state that promised not to encroach on the Crimea. Now these rules are broken. We went to it, the decision is made. Chess is over, another game has begun. In Chapaeva, for example. Vladimir Vladimirovich is a courageous man, he knows how to risk, he is a man of sports. He believes: "Why not?". It seems to me that Putin won this tatami fight. But life is not one fight, it is a lot of different competitions. We can win at a short distance, in the sprint, but the marathon, I am afraid, will not pull the current regime.

- How will Western countries react to the annexation of the Crimea?

- I think that de facto they admit it, de jure - never. This means that they, of course, not immediately, but gradually take Russia into a rigid ring. Gergiev will no longer be allowed to lead the Rotterdam orchestra, Zheleznyak will no longer rest in Nice, and Rodnin will not be allowed to visit her daughter in America. The G8 will disappear; in Sochi, it will not be 100%. Russia will be expelled from the OSCE. European countries, of course, first of all think about themselves, so they first need to get rid of our dependence on our gas, take the business away from here. Anyway, on the sly, they will try to isolate Russia. I think that in the future we will see lower prices for energy resources, embargoes, visa closures and confiscation of property of people directly connected with the ruling elite of the Russian Federation. For a short time, there will be a strengthening of the regime, such weighting, up to repression, arrests and closure of the media, and then an economic collapse.

- How soon will this tactics of the West affect the lives of ordinary Russians?

- It has already been reflected due to the collapse of the ruble. That is, we have already paid 15% of the national currency for this Crimea. Of course, if we do not dwell on the Crimea, but if we deal with Lugansk, Donetsk and Kharkov, which is also very sweet, then Turkey and we will be closed. Have to rest in the Crimea. For the heads of police departments from Krasnoyarsk and Omsk, this will be a great loss. No Antalya, no all-inclusive, a lavatory on the street and a crap beach in Sudak or exorbitant prices in Sochi. This is the price the Russian middle class will pay. As for the people, it is waiting for an exorbitant price increase, for which pensions, salaries will not keep pace, it will hit state employees. I myself am not against the annexation of the Crimea, I will lose little from me. I used to go to Ukrainian Koktebel, but now I will go to Russian, what's the difference? But as for Lingonberry - I think that St. Petersburg residents are more concerned in principle. And in general, those who are connected with abroad more than with Moscow - Vladivostok, Kaliningraders. Finland itself does not want to close the border, because the Russians spend a lot of money there. But if this decision is agreed with the West, then why not? I am not convinced of this, but I say that there is such a danger.

- How do you feel about the active collection of humanitarian aid for residents of the peninsula?

- This is just nonsense and the desire of officials to somehow curry favor. In Crimea, there was no humanitarian disaster. The so-called "Bendera" did not destroy the Russian population. Crimea cannot be poorer than the Kurgan or Vologda regions. And you need to help, of course, with your own, and the Crimea will cope, after all, it's warm there, there is no shortage of products, Bendery, not a single person was killed. And the earthquake was not there.

- Is it possible to draw a parallel between the invasion of the Crimea and Afghanistan? Then, too, it was about good intentions ...

- It's completely different stories: with Afghanistan, with Czechoslovakia, with Hungary and the Crimea. In Crimea, they are waiting for us. Crimea welcomes Russian troops. But Afghanistan is generally a foreign land. In the Czech Republic, we were perceived by the majority of the population as invaders, in Hungary, too. So in this sense, Crimea is the least painful story. It is like Abkhazia and South Ossetia. But look what happened to them when they became our dominions. This is an empty country in which no one invests a penny. And what they invest is stolen. Not recognized by any state in the world, except for some Pacific Islands. Crimea, too, for many years will be subsidized region. There it will be necessary to deliver water, gas, build a bridge. Most of those who were vacationing there were Ukrainians, now these people will not go there. And I do not think that the lack of Ukrainian tourist flow will compensate for some new Russian. Investments in the Crimea in such a fortunate international situation, despite the fact that the inclusion of Crimea in Russia does not recognize the vast majority of countries will be extremely risky. Surely we now need to Yalta as Sochi equip? Investing in the Crimea is a barrel of danaid. It is meaningless and will not pay off.

- How do you feel about the current leadership of the autonomy?

- From my point of view, these are random people who, as I understand it, are closely connected with organized crime. In Ukraine, and it is not a secret, the 90s continued and continue. And the only positive thing I see in all this Crimean history is that after entering Russia they will be expelled. These Konstantinov (Speaker of the Parliament of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea - Rosbalt), Aksenov (Head of the Government of Crimea - Rosbalt) ... They did not have long. Appoint a governor, some federal official.

- How will our relations with Ukraine develop after the referendum?

“For the rest of Ukraine, leaving the Crimea will be a terrible slap in the face, which for several generations will spoil our relations with the Ukrainians, throw them towards NATO. And I'm not talking about Lviv, not about Galicia, but about Odessa, Poltava, Kiev, Chernigov, Sumy, that is, about that Ukraine, which, even under Bogdan Khmelnytsky, became part of Russia. Honestly, I am a supporter of the split of Ukraine. I believe that there are two different states. And it will be very difficult to conquer Ukraine, because after Dnepropetrovsk and Cherkassy, ​​what we now call Bendery will begin. That is, there will fight, kill. And up to this place it is quite possible to enter, and the population is more or less all the same to which they belong - to Russia or to Ukraine. And I would consolidate this dualism in the place of the Ukrainians. They want Donetsk, Lugansk or Kharkov to go to Russia - let them vote. And then they need to be peacefully, under UN control, included. And not like this, "hapkom." If the Russian army annexes eastern Ukraine and moves into the central Ukraine, then a third world war can happen. Since we start from the assumption that we need to take everything that is given, then why not take it? I do not exclude such a variant of events.

- How do you feel about such a phenomenon as a referendum? Maybe the Russians also need to solve such different issues more often, for example, to build or not to build the Okhta Center?

- At the end of 1991 in Ukraine there was another referendum and all regions, including the Crimea, I stress, voted for independence from Russia. But the referendum is a rather crude instrument, and therefore Napoleon III and Hitler loved them so much. If you have the First Channel, then it is not difficult to make the results of the referendum. I think that issues such as the Okhta Center should be addressed by an active minority, which it did. But I must say, sociological polls show that the annexation of the Crimea causes less enthusiasm among the residents of St. Petersburg than in any other city in Russia.
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  1. shalk
    shalk 15 March 2014 16: 01
    +113
    This means that, of course, they will not immediately, but gradually take Russia into a tight ring.


    Russia's actions today are nothing but an attempt to prevent this ring from closing.
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 15 March 2014 16: 08
      +146
      There is an article with a ticker! If you read between the lines! Then it turns out that we in general need to sit around Moscow and look around with horror! The eternal problem of the intelligentsia, something to say and most importantly if only in peak!
      1. a52333
        a52333 15 March 2014 16: 33
        +71
        I also liked the comparison of Russia with a sprinter who could not stand a long distance. Interestingly, are the strongers on the adjacent tracks? Overweight and hypertensive states, or stillborn EU?
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 15 March 2014 16: 35
          +15
          Quote: a52333
          or stillborn EU?

          You forgot to add the faq to the EU !!! laughing
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        3. Tersky
          Tersky 15 March 2014 17: 16
          +26
          Quote: a52333
          I also liked the comparison of Russia with a sprinter who could not stand a long distance.

          Russia and not such a long distance withstood, and he must remember who and in what condition came to the finish. Well, it is understandable, they are such mushrooms, they completely knock off the brains .. However, what else to expect from the host of the program on the radio "Echo of Petersburg" where the mouths are always crooked ... the same curves and one-sided as the "despair" of judgments.
          1. Aleksandr68
            Aleksandr68 15 March 2014 18: 27
            +10
            "Echo of Petersburg" is a branch of "Echo of Moscow" and those, it has been proven many times, are paid by the Americans
            1. zzz
              zzz 15 March 2014 20: 24
              +4
              Those lions were stoned, they didn’t finish the meat in the Washington zoo.
          2. Penzyac
            Penzyac 15 March 2014 18: 33
            +4
            It is worth recalling the experience of Soviet Russia and the USSR, even with all its antagonism to the West, he (the West) could never isolate us. For the sake of profit, the West is always ready to violate the sanctions imposed on it.
          3. Ross
            Ross 15 March 2014 21: 48
            +1
            It is surprising how he dares to open his stinky mouth at such a time. Their history does not teach anything.
        4. Penzyac
          Penzyac 15 March 2014 18: 26
          +5
          The history of Russia just shows that we are not sprinters, but styers. How many times have we suffered temporary defeats, but always won in protracted conflicts. Persistence is our national feature, and the West has never been different.
        5. nik.tmn72
          nik.tmn72 15 March 2014 18: 27
          +2
          It’s clear that We will come first. history has confirmed this many times.
        6. sso-xnumx
          sso-xnumx 15 March 2014 19: 36
          +2
          "The Germans are running, the French are running, the Japanese are running, and the Russians are coming !!!" And we will go !!!!
      2. predator.3
        predator.3 15 March 2014 16: 34
        +44
        Well, judging by the article of Russia, it remains to raise the white flag and stand at the "Hyundai Hoh" counter! lol How many times in history have there been such situations when a complete scribe had to come to Russia: "Troubles", 1917, 1941, I'm not talking about the "violent" 90s, which they experienced on their ridge, and there is nothing we live! Of course there are problems, but when they were not!
      3. Bronis
        Bronis 15 March 2014 16: 34
        +18
        Well so it Lev Yakovlevich Lurie .... Today in the zoo two lions fought: Leo Solomonovich and Leo Moiseevich ... wassat
        At the same time, there is a certain reason in this point of view. Only with the manner characteristic of this kind of "intelligentsia" is he depressed hyperbolized ...
        Crimea has a price. Both economically and politically ... but it also has pluses. And then - what will outweigh. Anyway, one gets the impression that we do not know something big and important, why such a decision was made. The point of view "just got Putin" is not worth considering ...
        1. tolian
          tolian 15 March 2014 17: 42
          +9
          What is not clear here. From the time of the drunken Bori - the USA is getting closer and closer to Moscow. Enough! Putin, you are right.
        2. lelikas
          lelikas 15 March 2014 18: 17
          +17
          Pokrovsky has such a story - "The lion farted" - his name is very suitable for this article.
      4. Duke
        Duke 15 March 2014 16: 36
        +9
        We cannot be in the wake of the West, and we sang along with them.
        1. vlad63
          vlad63 15 March 2014 18: 36
          +6
          True, but we must take all of them into account. We write: Lurie L.S., as it were, a historian, scribe and pr. Russophobia for grants and we are waiting for repentance.
          1. Raven1972
            Raven1972 15 March 2014 23: 52
            0
            Quote: vlad63
            We write down: L. Lurie, as it were, a historian, scribe and pr. Russophobia for grants and we are waiting for repentance.

            And we sharpen a named ice ax to them. Comrade Mercader soldier
      5. dmitriygorshkov
        dmitriygorshkov 15 March 2014 16: 56
        +6
        Quote: Sid.74
        It’s an article with a catch-up! If you read between the lines! It turns out that in general the whole country needs to sit near Moscow and look around in horror!

        I would even say more, not just look around, but hold contests and quizzes on the topic "How clever it is to please the white gentleman" so as not to hit the face in the dirt! First, the white one, And then you look and the rest will not disdain! In short, everything is clear with this Sofa!
      6. 225chay
        225chay 15 March 2014 16: 58
        +11
        Quote: Sid.74
        There is an article with a ticker! If you read between the lines! Then it turns out that we in general need to sit around Moscow and look around with horror! The eternal problem of the intelligentsia, something to say and most importantly if only in peak!

        the author is bullshit along with the article! Even read vomit ...
      7. avt
        avt 15 March 2014 17: 02
        +11
        Quote: Sid.74
        With a sub-article!

        What a trick here! “What does Tavarish Katz offer? Katz offers to surrender. "And everyone! What is there to discuss that!? Put a minus and forget about the vyser of this kreakla.
        Quote: Sid.74
        ! If you read between the lines!

        Yeah, maybe I’d also study Novodvorskaya ??? laughing Another Hepa, or Dopa, no difference.
        1. tolian
          tolian 15 March 2014 17: 45
          +9
          Lurie on a note. Over time - cleaning the fifth column! Glory to Stalin!
        2. Sid.74
          Sid.74 15 March 2014 17: 45
          +4
          Quote: avt
          Yeah, maybe I’d also study Novodvorskaya ??? laughing Another Hepa, or Dopa, no difference.


          Here you forced me !!! laughing We’d like to keep Novodvorskaya! laughing laughing laughing About Crimea is almost like in the article ... so you were right! hi
          1. PKTRL
            PKTRL 15 March 2014 18: 15
            +3
            Two burry work out the loot of their vassals!
            1. Aleksandr68
              Aleksandr68 15 March 2014 18: 45
              +4
              Quote: PCTRL
              Two burry work out the loot of their vassals!

              not vassals but gentlemen
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          3. Penzyac
            Penzyac 15 March 2014 18: 44
            +2
            This delirium of Borovoy and Novodvorskaya was not mastered to the end. What are only the voiced figures of the composition of the population of Crimea, when they, like, about 20 percent of the Russian (according to official statistics) population suddenly made Ukrainians.
            1. 225chay
              225chay 16 March 2014 06: 22
              0
              Quote: PENZYAC
              This delirium of Borovoy and Novodvorskaya was not mastered to the end.


              How are these creatures still not kicked out of the country? They shit openly scum, the fifth column of scum ...
              1. Ladoga
                Ladoga 16 March 2014 17: 11
                0
                Little, you see, Borovoy, counted, corners and lay on the floor in the studio KM.RU
                It’s a pity, the video was not preserved ...
          4. Aleksandr68
            Aleksandr68 15 March 2014 18: 55
            +3
            the toad threw the Tatars as much as 5%, but that’s not the point. if you feel so bad in Russia, if you (from lack of sex) have been in opposition in your youth — you blow to your America! who willn’t let it in? Opposition Ds- female dissatisfaction
          5. Dezinto
            Dezinto 15 March 2014 19: 57
            +6
            On an ice ax to everyone in the moss, Stalin checked it works! Yes, and everyone else! I'm not bloodthirsty of course I love people. But some are just kapets as they ask an ice ax to the top !!! soldier
          6. valerij
            valerij 15 March 2014 20: 25
            +1
            these two Uryluks should be sent to the Crimea, to live there, then the eyes could be opened.
            1. Aleksandr68
              Aleksandr68 26 March 2014 15: 06
              0
              And would the little eyes open? Put them on the square, how long would they live?
          7. Andrey NM
            Andrey NM 15 March 2014 20: 33
            +2
            Are they lovers? Why not a kiss?
            1. Ladoga
              Ladoga 16 March 2014 16: 56
              0
              Yes, they are long-time lovers and, of course, kiss, but only in a pose ,, 69 ,,.
              I didn’t watch the video until the end, I didn’t master it ...
              As if two croaking toads seen.
          8. Aptimist
            Aptimist 15 March 2014 20: 35
            +2
            Damn, what laws are respected in Crimea ???? Well, he doesn’t know ... but he’s talking nonsense !!! Take the same Tatars, the Turks, because it is clear that Kiev gave them free rein and turned a blind eye to their seizure of land !!! in return for their loyalty !!!! What is the legality here ??? Yes, and you can still bring a bunch of facts about the rule of law in Ukraine !!!! What then are they in such F !? since they are so good with the laws? What are they and where then do not work ??? And the apotheosis of the rule of law is of course the second Maidan !!! 1 There was everything according to the law !!! wassat
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          10. Spring
            Spring 16 March 2014 02: 14
            0
            Fifth Column Death Cramps
          11. Seryi trifon
            Seryi trifon 16 March 2014 10: 23
            0
            Why are these _UKIs still alive in our totalitarian strontium?
            Why won't people who hate Russia so much go to ... the west?
        3. I am a Russian
          I am a Russian 15 March 2014 17: 52
          +2
          Quote: avt
          What a trick here! “What does Tavarish Katz offer? Katz offers to surrender. "And everyone! What is there to discuss that!? Put a minus and forget about the vyser of this kreakla.


          attracted an opus scribbler for compulsory work for up to 200 hours.
        4. not main
          not main 15 March 2014 19: 31
          +1
          Quote: avt
          What is there to discuss then!? Put a minus and forget about the vyser of this creak.

          I do so!
      8. Tersky
        Tersky 15 March 2014 17: 10
        +8
        Quote: Sid.74
        With a sub-article! If you read between the lines!

        Why between the lines, there it is in plain text marked - "We (i.e. he is Russia or the ultimate truth fool ) have created a new way of redistributing the world, first of all, Europe, which can not suit anyone. ", it remains to ask the question-WHO CREATED, WE ??? Or do we remember Kosovo, Iraq, Libya. I have passed all the edges of a conceivable lie. I have not read such nonsense for a long time. Leffff .., quit smoking marijuana and in the pauses between the potatoes eat mushrooms.
        1. Penzyac
          Penzyac 15 March 2014 19: 01
          +4
          If the violent annexation of Kosovo from Serbia, according to the West, is peaceful self-determination, then the peaceful reunification of Crimea with Russia is, in general, not his (west) dog’s business.
          How can Russian troops invade Crimea when they have never, from the moment of liberation from the fascist occupation, left from there?
          1. saxa2103
            saxa2103 15 March 2014 20: 38
            +1
            here, bro, you're wrong, they read there, two hundred years or so, some of whom didn’t exist at all - and the Russian army was, is and will be
      9. Fin
        Fin 15 March 2014 17: 12
        +6
        The article is yours and ours. I kind of for the Crimea, but why is it needed. Political prostitute.
        1. tolian
          tolian 15 March 2014 17: 48
          +5
          Jew, but from the Jews. As their own member of the Knesset said, he is a brownish color. But he added that every nation has the right to excrement. I agree with him.
        2. Walk
          Walk 15 March 2014 18: 11
          +3
          I beg your pardon, is this not another name for Shenderovich? The same rare ... a resident of Amsterdam. Who in a sober mind will listen to this m.r.a.z.? This necrophiliac comes from the 90s. He sincerely believes that "stupid Russians" will believe any nonsense from the lips of "God's chosen people."
      10. platitsyn70
        platitsyn70 15 March 2014 17: 12
        +6
        minus per article, and our Crimea, and even if we rest in Sochi and eat Russian products, the children will be healthier.
        1. platitsyn70
          platitsyn70 15 March 2014 17: 44
          +2
          The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine has registered a draft resolution on the early termination of powers of the Supreme Council of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea. The draft resolution was registered on March 15, according to Interfax, its author is the chairman of the Verkhovna Rada, acting Head of State Alexander Turchinov. “The early termination of the powers of the Supreme Council of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea will ensure compliance with the constitutional law and order and will help stabilize the political situation in the open spaces of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea,” the explanatory note says.
          BP dissolved the Supreme Council of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea. Crimeans were offended and went to Russia with the peninsula. It’s interesting that Turchinov’s brain has or there is a rope on which ears are held.
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 15 March 2014 18: 00
            +2
            Quote: platitsyn70
            It’s interesting that Turchinov’s brain has or there is a rope on which ears are held.

            This clown did not have brains !!! laughing

            Turchinov asks mobile operators to provide funds for army support via SMS

            Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada, acting President of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov appealed to mobile operators with a request to provide citizens with the opportunity to transfer funds to support the army through the SMS service. This was reported by the press service of the VO "Batkivshchyna".

            "People are ready to help the army in every possible way, to help the state. Tens of thousands of people go to the military registration and enlistment offices as volunteers," Turchinov said.

            He said that in order to support the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the newly created National Guard, extrabudgetary accounts have already been opened, to which funds from people come.

            "We are working to strengthen the Armed Forces, the National Guard, and I am sure that together we can withstand this difficult time," Turchinov said.

            laughing laughing laughing
            1. Penzyac
              Penzyac 15 March 2014 19: 06
              +2
              Sid.74
              "Quote: platitsyn70
              It’s interesting that Turchinov’s brain has or there is a rope on which ears are held.
              This clown did not have brains !!! laughing "

              At Turchinov, instead of brains, Polish fat smoked on car tires. laughing
          2. Aleksandr68
            Aleksandr68 15 March 2014 19: 00
            0
            tantamount to the fact that I will now begin at all resources to demand the abolition of same-sex marriage in France
        2. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 16 March 2014 02: 21
          +1
          if they stop letting us in Turkey, the Turks will howl, not us
      11. Vladimir.z.
        Vladimir.z. 15 March 2014 17: 13
        +3
        .... Chess is over, another game has begun ...

        If "our" businessmen do not "bend" or run away to the West from power and in power under economic sanctions, then Putin will have the opportunity to "play" further ...
        1. Thompson
          Thompson 15 March 2014 17: 19
          0
          It would be faster, cleaner and easier to do everything again with us. All internal problems from them!
        2. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 16 March 2014 02: 22
          0
          or we will have new oligarchs ...
      12. alexkross83
        alexkross83 15 March 2014 17: 17
        +7
        Lev Lurie cannot reflect the opinion of all Russians, as far as the article is concerned, this article is not an article at all, but simply the opinion of one of the paid political scientists. It was necessary to ask a question, what does he think that the egg brought the Scythian gold to the USA? Yes, and on the events in the South East of Ukraine .... it seems that the journalist, coupled with him .... how tired of all this scum, which carries a betrayal .....
        1. Walk
          Walk 15 March 2014 18: 16
          +3
          How can this moral reflect the opinion of all Russians in general, if he himself has nothing to do with Russians?
        2. Aleksandr68
          Aleksandr68 15 March 2014 19: 04
          +2
          Quote: alexkross83
          Lev Lurie cannot reflect the opinion of all Russians, as far as the article is concerned, this article is not an article at all, but simply the opinion of one of the paid political scientists. It was necessary to ask a question, what does he think that the egg brought the Scythian gold to the USA? Yes, and on the events in the South East of Ukraine .... it seems that the journalist, coupled with him .... how tired of all this scum, which carries a betrayal .....

          Lurie is a typically Russian surname. A journalist, not coupled with him with the naked eye, can see that she is asking leading questions.
      13. asar
        asar 15 March 2014 17: 38
        +1
        cramped everyone will be under one city, albeit a big one! how much we need - we’ll go as long as we don’t get tired!
      14. tolian
        tolian 15 March 2014 17: 39
        +1
        Lurie, why don’t you complain. For you, what is the danger of joining the Crimea? After all, this is your main argument - your own well-being violated. Is not it?
      15. Cynic
        Cynic 15 March 2014 17: 39
        +5
        Quote: Sid.74
        ! If you read between the lines

        Why on earth?
        Said _
        the problem is the use case that changes the rules. We have created a new way to redistribute the world, above all, Europe, which cannot suit anyone.

        Who will believe that it is not in the know which country was the first, in modern history, to change the rules for its own interests.
        But in general, what is not done is all for the better.
        Before, one could guess what kind of person he was. Now clear _ ENEMY!
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      16. Rus2012
        Rus2012 15 March 2014 17: 52
        +8
        Quote: Sid.74
        With a sub-article!

        Historian, writer and journalist Lev Lurie told Rosbalt


        I think that de facto they admit it, de jure - never. This means that they, of course, will not immediately, but gradually take Russia into a tight ring. Gergiev will no longer be allowed to lead the Rotterdam orchestra, Zheleznyak will no longer rest in Nice, and Rodnina will not be allowed to visit her daughter in America. The G100 will disappear, and it will no longer be XNUMX% assembled in Sochi. Russia will be expelled from the OSCE. European countries, of course, first of all think about themselves, so they first need to get rid of their dependence on our gas and take business away from here. One way or another, they will quietly try to isolate Russia. I think that in the future we will see a decline in energy prices, an embargo, visa closure and confiscation of the property of people directly connected with the ruling elite of the Russian Federation.
        .
        It is already reflected due to the collapse of the ruble. That is, we have already paid 15% of the national currency for this Crimea. Of course, if we do not stop in the Crimea, but deal with Lugansk, Donetsk and Kharkov, which is also very sweet, then Turkey will be closed for us.


        Kakanah Historian ?!
        If the specialist can’t even expertly evaluate the ratios that will possibly be after the return of Crimea to the fold of the motherland?
        A loser and a double player ... a flat-headed liberoid ...

        Glory to the Creator that the world is not uniform, in the opinion of such grief "historians", there are other civilizations of non-Western peoples with whom we will interact for our benefit. And on the mountain the so-called. "enlightened dermocracy" ...
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 15 March 2014 18: 09
          +4
          Quote: Rus2012
          It is already reflected due to the collapse of the ruble. That is, we have already paid 15% of the national currency for this Crimea. Of course, if we do not stop in the Crimea, but deal with Lugansk, Donetsk and Kharkov, which is also very sweet, then Turkey will be closed for us.


          Well nifiga yourself! God forgive me ...... !!!!! Yes, how many people got out vile, this liberal howl to purim or something ... !!!
          1. Aptimist
            Aptimist 15 March 2014 20: 40
            -4
            Well, minus and scold his special mind is not necessary! He gives accurate facts. the ruble collapsed. and holds on now thanks to injections of the national bank of the Russian Federation. And it is a fact, whether you like it or not! Another thing I do not agree with his conclusions! I think that everything will settle down in a couple of years !!! and will return to square one. For money rules this world !!!!
            1. Cynic
              Cynic 15 March 2014 22: 01
              0
              Quote: Aptimist
              He gives accurate facts. the ruble collapsed

              Yeah and what other exact facts are given in the article?
              By the way _ The ruble collapsed in the 98th year and, they say, contrary to the will of the Yusovites!
              A collapse, a fall, and what do you take all this to heart so much?
              You need to remember _ Gambling with the state is punishable.
              Yes, even. think why the dollar is not as grown as the euro?
              1. Aptimist
                Aptimist 16 March 2014 10: 31
                0
                The ruble collapsed not only in 98, and also rose. You are what you wanted to say with your strange opus ???
                And what about gambling, why are you ???
                You seem to be in terms of exchange rates, cereal in your head !!!
                1. Cynic
                  Cynic 16 March 2014 12: 14
                  +1
                  Quote: Aptimist
                  You are what you wanted to say with your strange opus ???

                  What he wanted, he said.
                  Quote: Aptimist
                  And what about gambling, why are you ???

                  In addition, it is useless to try to outplay government agencies.
                  Quote: Aptimist
                  You seem to be in terms of exchange rates, cereal in your head !!!

                  May be
            2. Dracon
              Dracon 16 March 2014 05: 35
              0
              but have you ever thought that the ruble was intentionally collapsed on your own in order to buy out the assets of state enterprises?
              1. Cynic
                Cynic 16 March 2014 08: 21
                0
                Quote: DRAKON
                but have you ever thought that

                Honestly, since I do not have information about the movement of assets, or rather I’m not even trying to do it.
                Without going into the pros and cons of your statement, I can only recall
                Universal Energy Conservation Law
                nothing arises from nowhere and disappears into nowhere. ...

                Nothing accidental happens on exchanges; there are powerful enough regulators to smooth out RANDOM fluctuations.
                Now, if there really is something significant happening, then there is definitely a winner.
                Recently recalled here _
                “If in the scheme you do not see a sucker, then this sucker is you”

                wink
              2. Aptimist
                Aptimist 16 March 2014 10: 34
                0
                What do you think, didn’t think ??? I ascertained the fact !!! And he has a purely economic explanation! Or rather political!
                And here you begin to look for conspiracies !!!!
                1. Cynic
                  Cynic 16 March 2014 17: 19
                  0
                  Quote: Aptimist
                  I ascertained the fact !!! And he has a purely economic explanation! Or rather political!

                  And is there just one explanation?
                  I'm sure you know _
                  War is nothing more than a continuation of politics, with the involvement of other means.
                  From the essay “On War” (part 1, 1832) by the Prussian military theorist General Karl von Clausewitz (1780–1831).
                  So the relationship between politics and economics is much simpler _ foreign and domestic policies of the state are determined by its economic interests .
                  hi
          2. Rus2012
            Rus2012 15 March 2014 21: 06
            +1
            Quote: Sid.74
            , this liberal howl to purim or something ...

            no way! these are without clan, without a tribe
            Looks like we got another penny out of 30 pieces of silver for the "kiss of Judas"

            The alleged Jews are just for Crimea and Odessa as part of Russia and against the Nazis in ruin.
            Up to the fact that among the "polite people" there are also their special forces ...
            Lieutenant: Part of the “polite people” cannot speak or speak Russian poorly. Still, the second or third generation has grown up and not everyone speaks the language like Yasha Kedmi.
            Due to the presence of these "silent" war with the Crimea will not be.
            1. Sid.74
              Sid.74 15 March 2014 21: 18
              +1
              Quote: Rus2012
              Still, the second or third generation has grown up and not everyone speaks the language like Yasha Kedmi.
              Due to the presence of these "silent" war with the Crimea will not be.

              May God grant, God grant! What would be how you say! yes
          3. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 16 March 2014 02: 27
            0
            now all the scale can be counted by name. "Who is not with us is against us" J.V. Stalin
      17. tungus
        tungus 15 March 2014 18: 02
        +12
        Quote: Sid.74
        With a sub-article! If you read between the lines!

        There is nothing to read. Complete nonsense.
        1. "We have agreed on the inviolability of the borders of the CIS countries"
        Excuse me, who are we? And with whom did you agree? Have Yeltsin, Kravchuk and Shushkevich agreed? Where is this agreement document? In any case, we do not dispute the territorial integrity of Ukraine. But we cannot be held responsible for the fact that the citizens of Ukraine want to secede due to the impossibility of their further existence as part of this country. They can simply be physically destroyed. But what does Russia have to do with it?

        Or does it mean that we agreed with the West? If with the West, then all agreements can be safely sent back, because the West was the first to violate the agreements with us. The West promised that not a single country of the former Warsaw Pact would join NATO. Then the West promised that not one of the former republics of the USSR, having gained independence, would be included in NATO. Violation of these agreements removes from us all the obligations given to the West in 1991.

        2. Now about nonsense about the exclusion of Russia from everything and everything.
        Mr. Lurie, you think on the scale of the eighties. In those years, yes. The USSR would be expelled from everywhere. Today it is not possible to exclude Russia from anywhere. Today, the dependence of the West on Russia is much greater than Russia on the West. That is why they cannot do anything.
        There will be no entry restrictions; Europe will never want to lose the money of our tourists. No one will forbid Gergiev to lead the Rotterdam orchestra, because without Gergiev no one will know about this orchestra.
        Nobody will exclude us from the Big Eight, because the Eight itself was created as a platform for resolving the economic and political issues of the West with Russia. In the Big Seven, without Russia, today there simply is no point.

        3. About the collapse of the ruble. Hallelujah! Americans are pushing China to strengthen the yuan. Why? Because China is an exporter and a cheap yuan is profitable for him. We are also exporters and a cheap ruble is beneficial for us.
        Yes, a trip to Turkey will become somewhat more expensive. But when import is replaced by its products, which will certainly happen when the ruble becomes cheaper, the volume of its production will increase, new jobs will arise, and as a result, wages will increase. The surplus of the trade balance will increase, which is additional money in the budget, which will entail an increase in pensions and other social benefits. payments, will allow the state to invest in its economy, its enterprises and infrastructure. Our economy will again be able to grow at the pace of the beginning of the two thousandth.

        In short, all this nonsense of this grandfather is even lazy to read. He commented on what was enough patience.
        1. Walk
          Walk 15 March 2014 18: 30
          0
          Guys, what are you, absolutely oh.h.r.e.e.l.i? Are you seriously discussing the delirium of an unpaid schizophrenic? This is a megaTrol, or a complete senile. Ignore him!
        2. stas52
          stas52 15 March 2014 18: 39
          +1
          At the end of 1991, there was another referendum in Ukraine and all regions, including Crimea, I emphasize, voted for independence from Russia

          As far as I remember, the result was absolutely the opposite. True, the authorities simply put the results of that referendum so as not to lose the power they had.
        3. tank64rus
          tank64rus 15 March 2014 19: 02
          +1
          The most interesting thing is that this document is NOT. Lost. There are only copies. It was discovered about two years ago. They are still looking for it. And the "fifth column" must be removed from the media and the authorities urgently. Then the marathon is not terrible for us.
        4. Penzyac
          Penzyac 15 March 2014 19: 34
          0
          Even in the 80s of the last century, the USSR would not be able to exclude, even as a permanent member of the UN Security Council, to say nothing, even the isolation of Soviet Russia after October 1917 ended already in 1918, i.e. in less than a year, and even Russia and the TC at the present time - this, in general, is nonsense.
        5. saxa2103
          saxa2103 15 March 2014 20: 48
          +4
          but I don’t go to Turkey — I live on Lake Baikal, I’m on a tent, instead of a hotel a tent, instead of an all-inclusive, I caught everything, for my soul a guitar and vodka, a mosquito chilling a driver — this is not the Red Sea for you — and she doesn’t that I will not trade !!!!!!! good
          1. Manul
            Manul 16 March 2014 00: 38
            0
            Quote: saxa2103
            instead of a hotel, a tent, instead of an all-inclusive, I caught everything cho, for the soul a guitar and vodka, a mosquito chilling a driver

            good hi I fully agree! There is nothing better!
          2. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 16 March 2014 02: 31
            0
            listen, similar to 124 km of the Barguzinsky tract
      18. Sibiriya
        Sibiriya 15 March 2014 18: 10
        +3
        Historian, writer and journalist Lev Lurie




        Mdya ... smells ....

        article bold minus
      19. varov14
        varov14 15 March 2014 18: 32
        0
        The dog barks, the wind carries.
      20. Alekseev
        Alekseev 15 March 2014 20: 07
        +4
        Quote: Sid.74
        With a sub-article!

        Well, the author, a pro-Western talker!
        It was impossible to take Crimea "hapkom!" It is necessary, they say, under UN sanctions. And Kosovo can be, but can Yugoslavia be split up? And the USSR collapsed - is that nothing? I am silent about Afghanistan, where a drug reserve was created, a pacified Iraq, Libya, etc. Where is the UN? Hey!
        Does a respected pro-Western writer not know that the UN is a club of discussion and propaganda?
        A platform for the "interpreter". And nothing is allowed.
        But the main thing in his opinion, the aspirations of people, Crimeans, come down to elementary greed - they say they want to live richer. And the fact that they do not want the banderlog to shit on the grave of Admiral Nakhimov, is not mentioned on the graves of Russian soldiers in Lviv.
        Slap, they say, Ukraine. crying And the torchlight processions there are not a slap in the face ?!
        He doesn't like the beach in Sudak. As if there is another way to establish life in your own country except to "clean your beaches", to establish the work of industry and, in general, economy and order. Nobody will do it for us. This agent Lurie can quickly go to his masters, we are not expected there ... As well as the fooled Ukrainians.
        The ruble has fallen in price, but to hell with it, the main thing is that within the country strategic goods do not go up in price. We have everything. Do not we produce everything? Buy in Asia. Office equipment and junk are in abundance and in our 21st century they are very cheap.
        Once upon a time it is necessary to leave the dollar and the dictates of the United States.
        The opinion of people can’t be ignored.
        As for the sanctions. Will fall as a result of them Not only Russian exports, but also turnover with Europe (as the most active prostitute in the USA and Banderlozhy Ukraine, too).
        Let compensate. Our task is to raise this very turnover with Asia and other countries. And the bourgeoisie for profit is ready for any crime, this postulate of Marx has not yet been canceled.
      21. saber1357
        saber1357 16 March 2014 00: 25
        +2
        Yes, I totally agree! With a trick. You know, there is also a legend in the Islamic world that the Antichrist (dazhal, "the great deceiver") will be one-eyed (literally or figuratively). Just like this "historian-writer" L-Lurie - he sees everything from one side and in a very bad light for you and me.

        But in fact - everything will be VERY bad for him - BECAUSE ALL OF US VERY STRONGLY ATTACHED THIS EDUCATOR with half a brain, one eye and WITH A CONSTANT ACKING.
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      23. Hon
        Hon 17 March 2014 10: 08
        0
        Quote: Sid.74
        It’s an article with a catch-up! If you read between the lines! It turns out that in general the whole country needs to sit near Moscow and look around in horror!

        This is true! Soon, Khan will be chosen by selected fighters of Ukrainian airsoft !!!!


        Kiev, March 17 (New Region, Konstantin Zelfanov) - The appeal of the Pride airsoft club from Gorlovka (Donetsk region) has appeared on the Internet to Russian President Vladimir Putin and Russian soldiers.

        Subscribe to the news "New Region - Kiev" on Facebook >>>

        “War is our hobby. God forbid Russian soldiers to meet with us in a real battle, the airsoft players said on maidanua.org. - We know our city, but they do not. We spent thousands of fights in it, and they are conscripts. We played as a football team, they just saw the ball. The Ukrainian special forces refused to conduct battles, because he knew that we had no chance to resist. In battle, we don’t have a brain, but a combat computer, they have - mom take me home. Us 750 fighters. We need at least 3000 draftees to just provide us with adequate resistance. And this is only Horlivka.

        Putin do you have a brain? We are all different. Teachers and engineers. Sales agents and police faculty. We ask you, Russians, stop Putin. We do not want to turn our hobby into a craft and shoot at the brothers of Russians. It is wiser to say: Vova, went to H.Y. ”
        NR2.ru: http://www.nr2.ru/kiev/489222.html
    2. I do not care
      I do not care 15 March 2014 16: 27
      +3
      Which ring do they take from Russia? To the upper or lower? I do not understand, take Ali anally?
      1. I do not care
        I do not care 15 March 2014 16: 41
        +2
        someone else has a problem with reading - they cannot read the letter U, and maybe not only with reading ...
      2. Rus2012
        Rus2012 15 March 2014 18: 00
        0
        Quote: me by
        Which ring do they take from Russia? To the upper or lower? I do not understand, take Ali anally?

        this pi .... suggest that in these,
        not realizing that the world is much wider ...
    3. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ 15 March 2014 16: 46
      +9
      Quote: shalk
      Russia's actions today are nothing but an attempt to prevent this ring from closing.

      Admins who missed such vyser on a forum?
      Look at the rating of this feces scrap and draw conclusions. Visitors to this site do not approve of your position.
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 15 March 2014 16: 59
        +3
        Quote: Gluxar_
        Quote: shalk
        Russia's actions today are nothing but an attempt to prevent this ring from closing.

        And what you do not agree with in this proposal! The word attempt has alerted you, or the fact that they are trying to surround us with various kinds of economic unions and military blocs!
      2. Manul
        Manul 16 March 2014 00: 42
        0
        laughing Frenzied cheers-patriotism in order to dilute apparently. Yes, let it sometimes be overlooked. Well, we’re not Zakrain - introduce censorship. But people will not unlearn objectivity from objectivity.
        Z.Y. Yes, and new traitors should be noted.
    4. sscha
      sscha 15 March 2014 16: 53
      +9
      I believe that this is the point of view of a person "calculating" looking into the distance ...
      There were more such people, "calculating" thinking, and then in the history of Russia Port Arthur, Sinop, Alexander Nevsky, Suvorov, the victory of the spirit, despite the military defeat, in the Crimean War, the defense of Odessa, Sevastopol !!! And the defense of Stalingrad, Leningrad in the Second World War ...
      A company of airborne troops against the darkness of militants, SWAT, standing not for life, but FOR DEATH ??? Was it also a calculation ?! Maybe yes! Calculation in the triumph of justice! And let them think, those in power and trembling for the sum !!! If you cross an arc into a horse’s harness, it can break! And then there will be no mercy ... hi
      1. tolian
        tolian 15 March 2014 17: 55
        +2
        EBN duty looked into the distance? He was applauded and applauded. Also looked into the distance? So now we are forced to sniff this distance PA.
      2. Aleksandr68
        Aleksandr68 15 March 2014 19: 11
        +1
        you can remember victories not only military. Despite the defeat in the Crimean War, Russia over the next 20 years through diplomacy regained everything
    5. fisherman
      fisherman 15 March 2014 17: 06
      +3
      Is it better to take RUSSIA into the ring
      1. alone
        alone 15 March 2014 17: 13
        -1
        I started reading the article and realized that where the article rating is indicated there will be a solid red line laughing .Maybe a person exaggerates, or maybe not. Who knows. Let's wait to see how it ends.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 15 March 2014 17: 27
          +3
          Quote: lonely
          I started reading the article and realized that, where the article rating is indicated, there will be a solid red line. Maybe a person exaggerates, or maybe not. Who knows. Let us see how it ends.

          Maybe the shit smells, or maybe not. Need to pick a stick !?
          1. alone
            alone 15 March 2014 18: 51
            +1
            Sergey, If you like picking sticks in some places, picking your health.
            I’m not a psychic. I don’t know how it will all end. A man wrote an article and stated his vision. This is the right opinion or the wrong time will tell. Time will put everything in its place. I hope without war.
            PS I think you are somehow an adequate person, unlike some Uryalkins.
            And all the more it is not clear what you wanted to say with this comment!
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            2. siberalt
              siberalt 16 March 2014 05: 25
              +1
              In this I will support you. There is no agitation in the article. Your usual vision of the situation. It only gives us the opportunity to objectively judge how Ukrainian events are perceived by the neutral side. And we have the right to expect that such opinions will soon begin to change in the opposite direction. Including thanks to our forum.
        2. supertiger21
          supertiger21 15 March 2014 17: 29
          +5
          Quote: lonely
          Maybe a man exaggerates


          No objectivity, no realism - just an attempt to heal sensible Russians that "everything is gone again")))
        3. Cynic
          Cynic 15 March 2014 19: 08
          +4
          Quote: lonely
          . Maybe a person exaggerates, but maybe not.

          And what is exaggerating?
          It exaggerates, understates this personal matter of everyone, but why blatantly lie and pass off your lies as truth?
          I can understand a person who does not support the idea of ​​a referendum in Crimea on the basis of his personal ideas _ at least that Russia doesn’t match the USA in such matters.
          But brazenly lying ...
          1. alone
            alone 15 March 2014 20: 13
            0
            If he is a pathological liar, then why should this lie be posted here?
            1. supertiger21
              supertiger21 15 March 2014 20: 36
              0
              Quote: lonely
              If he is a pathological liar, then why should this lie be posted here?


              Here it is personally and tell Sofya Mokhova (author of the article) why to promote such nonsense.
            2. Cynic
              Cynic 16 March 2014 08: 32
              0
              Quote: lonely
              If he is a pathological liar, then why should this lie be posted here?

              To publish here, it is clear _ The enemy needs to be known in person.

              That's just a pathological liar, hmm, very vague ...
              Well, I have no doubt that the LORD KNOWS EVERYTHING in detail.
              So, DISINFORMATION is a respected, elegant DISINFORMATION.
              After all, it wasn’t said by a TV or radio announcer, an unknown person on the network said, some observer did not write, but said LURIER.
              1. Ladoga
                Ladoga 16 March 2014 18: 01
                0
                Yes, he knows everything. Yes, he is an enemy. And he is trying subtly, as if unobtrusively, to wish out for the future real. This can be seen without a microscope. And there are many.
                In this tape there is a video with the participation of Borovoy and Novodvorskaya, these are simpler, without fancy.
                They are still, however, some (of their own cesspools) are called intellectuals, but I said before, and now I insist - they have as much intellect as there are perfumes in the current year
                That's when EBNo sat on the throne (and sometimes lay), remember how much courage they had.
                Now - not that! The creatures whimper ...
        4. Aleksandr68
          Aleksandr68 15 March 2014 19: 13
          0
          guilty - by + missed! about the "red line" the same bullshit
        5. wax
          wax 15 March 2014 21: 48
          +2
          We have already seen the first result - the Black Sea has not turned into the American one. The CIA, MI6, and Mossad went wrong in front of the KGB lieutenant colonel (reserve FSB colonel) V.V. The operation was carried out clearly, with lightning speed and without loss. Aircraft carrier George W. Bush is resting. World hysteria is a good movie. So Europe, in the ring of Russians, was and remains. Leo Lurie is more suitable for the sale of pies in Tel Aviv.
    6. Stalnov I.P.
      Stalnov I.P. 15 March 2014 17: 08
      +3
      This is called the fifth column, so self-importance is slowly thrown up. If we discard our oligarchs and some of the corrupt, snickering officials and such political whores, we will endure it, but we must also hit these Western scum, let them feel all the discomfort, they are sissy, whine oh how they whine.
    7. ziqzaq
      ziqzaq 15 March 2014 17: 18
      +1
      Quote: shalk
      This means that, of course, they will not immediately, but gradually take Russia into a tight ring.

      Take us into the ring, well, please .... History will judge, the truth is with us ... At the same time, take the looted capital from thieves ... We Soviet people are asking you very much ...
      PS
      Article written by a selling blowjob face .... Minus article ...
    8. Artyom
      Artyom 15 March 2014 17: 21
      +4
      for this scribbler Europe, this is the whole world. But Russia is very large, and the face will crack to enclose it in a ring. You can relax, who cares in Egypt, the Emirates, in Indochina, but maloli where else. Europeans with amers will disappear. I’m only worried about one thing, with the further economic policy of our leadership, we won’t be able to avoid our Maidan, and here it’s not enough for anyone, there’s nowhere for some to run!
      A Bandera reptile must be finished off in its den. Otherwise, you have to fight on your territory and a lot of blood, remember 41!
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 15 March 2014 19: 43
        +1
        Having won several battles, the West decided that he had won the war, Napoleon also "won" at Borodino and was in Moscow ...
    9. dimdimich71
      dimdimich71 15 March 2014 17: 43
      0
      I apologize for mistakenly pressed the minus
    10. Committee
      Committee 15 March 2014 17: 44
      0
      Yes slap the reptile - and all for a short time!
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 15 March 2014 19: 45
        +1
        No need to slap him, a certain amount of harmful microbes is necessary to maintain immunity.
    11. Donskoi
      Donskoi 15 March 2014 17: 54
      +1
      I completely agree! I will add: if now give this Ukrainian (amero) regime will strengthen, oh, how soon the shadow of Hillary Clinton and Co. will cover South-Eastern Ukraine. They will act either by "soft power", brainwashing from kindergartens - the path is long, but reliable, OR they will gather "oppressed" Russian-speaking Russophobes and throw them on "tours" to Russia. You have to beat them on your own terms, and not wait and fight back by their rules!
      In one with the author I agree: Western Ukraine is no longer fraternal, the enemies here (I live on the memory) are all Russian, totally :(
    12. Spnsr
      Spnsr 15 March 2014 18: 22
      +1
      about lurie it suffered! Does he himself understand what he is saying?
    13. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 16 March 2014 02: 10
      0
      "they will be on the spattered beaches of Sudak .. and I, as always, in Koktebel .." the fifth column in action. Yes, we have seen animals cleaner than a lion ..
    14. Spnsr
      Spnsr 17 March 2014 11: 30
      0
      this not a good man choked off his hats abroad, and screams about it to everyone, especially to those who may also suffer from the events! laughing such as thieves, thieves and others, stop the GDP, otherwise we will lose our trip to the "cultural" geyropa laughing
  2. kind
    kind 15 March 2014 16: 04
    +34
    Lev Lurie told Rosbalt about what awaits Russians

    This scribbler fulfills the order of his masters, so he has exaggerated. The economist from him is like a bullet from shit, but the political scientist is the same.
    1. Andrei K
      Andrei K 15 March 2014 16: 39
      +8
      Leo Lurie is a pro-Western propagandist. 4 years taught in America. He will criticize any power simply because he is left. Fortunately, there are few such people in Russia. And do not attach particular importance to any forecasts, history will judge.
      1. Nick
        Nick 15 March 2014 17: 09
        +5
        Quote: Andrei K
        Leo Lurie is a pro-Western propagandist. 4 years taught in America

        Then why is his article on this site?
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 15 March 2014 17: 28
          +5
          Quote: Nick
          Then why is his article on this site?

          The enemy must be known in person.
        2. tolian
          tolian 15 March 2014 17: 59
          +1
          The admins are doing the right thing. Let this silly Leo see him poking in his nose.
          1. alone
            alone 15 March 2014 18: 52
            +1
            Quote: tolian
            The admins are doing the right thing. Let this silly Leo see him poking in his nose.


            Do you think Lurie after reading these comments shoot himself? wassat
            1. supertiger21
              supertiger21 15 March 2014 20: 44
              0
              It is easy for you to say, you do not live in Russia and do not intend to live, therefore, it is not for you to judge. And the words of such freaks like this Lurie will inspire any traitor to the Motherland. I am for the fact that people like this "professor" should be driven out of our country. shouldn't live in our country ... stop
            2. Setrac
              Setrac 16 March 2014 20: 51
              0
              Quote: lonely
              Do you think Lurie after reading these comments shoot himself?

              It is unlikely that he reads comments here, he did his job - he threw shit on the fan. Do you think that the author is right?
  3. olviko
    olviko 15 March 2014 16: 04
    +20
    Another cry of the all-companion.
  4. sscha
    sscha 15 March 2014 16: 04
    +10
    Respect. members of the forum! I'm off topic. but we now have a banderlog - "Muxalet"!
    Pay attention to his comment history !!! hi
    1. kind
      kind 15 March 2014 16: 05
      +6
      Thanks, take a look!
    2. sscha
      sscha 15 March 2014 17: 06
      0
      "Muxalet" - aren't you minus me ??? Oh well!!!
      Or what - a shame for you is sweeter than the truth ??? !!! am
      Listen, dear! I know how to manipulate facts better than you, for I know how the media work, firsthand!
      But not by hearsay, but reasonably I know how to break your "point of view" into nothing !! I didn't juggle the facts, but expressed my point of view on the events! And you are exactly the opposite! And do not bother with your verbiage - I have not responded to such attacks for a long time! hi
      Good luck, "Banderlog" Muxalet "! History at school had to be taught and psychology! Or skipped ??? laughing hi
    3. sscha
      sscha 15 March 2014 21: 48
      +1
      After my "remark", all my comments are necessarily present (-1)! On topic or off topic ...
      Moderators !!!! Au ??? !!!! hi
  5. mivmim
    mivmim 15 March 2014 16: 05
    +11
    And this article is a provocation article?
    1. I do not care
      I do not care 15 March 2014 17: 10
      +1
      no, it was simply written by a man who wanted to convince the Russians that:

      Lev Lurie is an economist who has become a historian and a historian who has become a director on a federal television channel. A modern-minded person and witty storyteller, he knows why, under Prime Minister Stolypin, Russia was in first place in terms of economic growth, but not under Prime Minister Putin. He knows that Alaska was sold, since there was no fleet for its defense. That Queen Elizabeth was the personification of the glamor of her time. That 80% of the gymnasium students of tsarist Russia at least once remained in the second year. That the Promenade des Anglais was the first place in Russia to center Nouveaux Riches houses, and the rent in the Russian capital was the highest in Europe.
      taken from wiki
      1. tolian
        tolian 15 March 2014 18: 08
        +2
        Po, you and about Svanidze write that he considers himself a historian, but without the formation of the corresponding. And how he says! With foam on the lips. And what does he know! Even the fact that the cooks were shot for stale pastry served to Zhdanov in besieged Leningrad. And they didn’t surrender Leningrad in vain - he thinks so with Xenia the horse and the shobla from the closed "Dozhd". Lurie Lev also thinks so, judging by the cry about the closed channels. So who are you yourself - to me?
    2. skeptic
      skeptic 15 March 2014 17: 40
      +5
      Quote: mivmim
      And this article is a provocation article?


      I guess, yes! An article from the category of infosuicide. If we even discard the fact that Crimea is good for recreation, etc., etc. do not forget, Crimea is an unsinkable aircraft carrier for our Black Sea Fleet, which has all the necessary military infrastructure that the West wanted to knock out from under Russia. All the fuss around Ukraine is 70% because of the Crimea. Therefore, everyone .... will "explain" the "perniciousness" of the presence of Crimea for the Russian economy and other and other "unwillingness". Our task, like Vaska from the fable, is to listen and eat.
  6. fly fishing
    fly fishing 15 March 2014 16: 05
    +13
    We will see! If they are afraid of us in the World, then they begin to respect us. The right way!
    And to protect Crimea, Russia delivered the "aircraft carrier killer" - the Club-K complex.
    http://warfiles.ru/show-50281-rossiya-dostavila-v-krym-ubiycu-avianoscev.html
  7. Setrac
    Setrac 15 March 2014 16: 05
    +31
    We have created a new way of redividing the world, above all, Europe, which cannot suit anyone.
    We did not create this new way.
    This means that, of course, they will not immediately, but gradually take Russia into a tight ring.
    Are they going to create a ring of NATO and US bases around Russia for the second time? Or was the previous "ring" removed? No? What is this gura writing about?
    For the rest of Ukraine, leaving Crimea will be a terrible slap in the face
    For the rest of Ukraine, at least its eastern and southern parts, this will be an example to follow.
    1. Nick
      Nick 15 March 2014 17: 10
      +4
      Quote: Setrac
      For the rest of Ukraine, at least its eastern and southern parts, this will be an example to follow.

      That's right!
  8. Vrvarius
    Vrvarius 15 March 2014 16: 06
    +9
    When you, Ivan Vasilievich, say, it feels like you are raving ...
  9. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 15 March 2014 16: 06
    +8
    "Russia will take the ring" Rather, Russia breaks out of the ring ..! The Olympics in Sochi, the situation in Ukraine .. THIS IS THE BREAK OF THE BLOCKADE AND STrangulation OF RUSSIA ..! It's time men have fun! Well, I'm begging straight .. damn it!
  10. SSR
    SSR 15 March 2014 16: 06
    +10
    Russia will be expelled from the OSCE.

    But this is fantastic! Yes, they’ll run out of schazz to exclude ... And who will be throwing money to them for membership of the money?
    1. ronin
      ronin 15 March 2014 16: 16
      +7
      Maybe they will ask Kiev fellow
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 15 March 2014 19: 54
        0
        Kiev slopes them with hay. laughing
    2. ronin
      ronin 15 March 2014 16: 16
      +1
      Maybe they will ask Kiev fellow
  11. Egevich
    Egevich 15 March 2014 16: 06
    +15
    the author is Lev Yakovlevich Lurie ... the article is a bold minus ... because about nothing, just the author "just in case" indicates his position ... rather unattractive
  12. melan
    melan 15 March 2014 16: 06
    +16
    The article is another vyser from the liberal wing.
  13. Albert1988
    Albert1988 15 March 2014 16: 07
    +14
    I will say right away - I mastered only the first one and a half pages of this creaklitsky nonsense and horror stories. Selected such nonsense interspersed with horror stories ...
    And the essence of everything lies in one single phrase:
    the problem is the use case that changes the rules. We have created a new way to redistribute the world, above all, Europe, which cannot suit anyone.
    We will indeed create a precedent that can detonate the slowly ticking bomb of separatism laid under Europe, so the "Europeans" do not want to let some of their territories float freely, but they cannot legally prohibit this - freedom, sir, they themselves have replicated and now from there is no getting to it. otherwise they will not understand their own.
    Well, it’s not worth reading about what kind of land we will "seize" then, and what "terrible" sanctions against us will allegedly be introduced: the "aftar" has poor fantasy, writes boringly and ineptly, in general, you can switch to language kreaklov and wish this "Lev Yakovlevich Luryo": "author, drink yada!"
    1. Siberian19
      Siberian19 15 March 2014 16: 12
      +7
      Not all by their rules to play! Our time has come!
      1. zanoza
        zanoza 15 March 2014 16: 45
        +2
        Quote: Siberian19
        Not all by their rules to play! Our time has come!

        If we play by "their rules", then, with today's attitude towards us on their part, they would declare war on us. In their "pack of wolves", we are the most harmless peaceful "sheep", that neither is the most, the most liberals.
        1. Penzyac
          Penzyac 15 March 2014 20: 07
          +2
          If we played by their rules, then we had to immediately and without any referendums declare a no-fly zone over the whole of Ukraine, introduce "peacekeeping forces", Yarosh, Tyagnybok and Yatsenyuk, hang live TV in Kiev, put the "government" of our puppets and distribute between their corporations all the remaining tidbits of the economy: pipes, mines, metallurgy ...
      2. Aleksandr68
        Aleksandr68 15 March 2014 19: 19
        0
        with a bear marked and fighting drunk already played enough
      3. flanker7
        flanker7 15 March 2014 21: 51
        +1
        Yes, how did these Americans get us all !!
        Finally, RUSSIA declared MYSELF and its interests !!
        KEEP IT UP!!!!!!!
    2. supertiger21
      supertiger21 15 March 2014 16: 40
      +2
      Quote: Albert1988
      "Aftar's" imagination is poor, writes boringly and ineptly, in general, you can switch to the language of kreakl and wish this "Lev Yakovlevich Luryo": "author, drink yada!"


      I agree! By the way, the author of the article is actually a girl, not a certain Lev Yakovlevich ...
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 15 March 2014 16: 44
        +3
        Quote: supertiger21
        By the way, the author of the article is actually a girl, not a certain Lev Yakovlevich ...

        I confess I did not pay attention, but in this case I advise both of you to "drink yadu" ...
      2. tolian
        tolian 15 March 2014 18: 23
        +1
        But here, after all, they comment on Leo, which scares readers.
      3. yur
        yur 16 March 2014 00: 53
        0
        Quote: supertiger21
        I agree! By the way, the author of the article is actually a girl, not a certain Lev Yakovlevich ...
        Well, actually, this "girl" interviewed the raving Lev Yakovlevich. So the authors are both two laughing .
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    4. Thompson
      Thompson 15 March 2014 17: 21
      +1
      There was nothing to raise a hive, they wanted honey ...
  14. VengefulRat
    VengefulRat 15 March 2014 16: 08
    +9
    - I think that de facto they admit it, de jure - never. This means that they, of course, will not immediately, but gradually take Russia into a tight ring. Gergiev will no longer be allowed to lead the Rotterdam orchestra, Zheleznyak will no longer rest in Nice, and Rodnina will not be allowed to visit her daughter in America. The G100 will disappear, and it will no longer be XNUMX% assembled in Sochi. Russia will be expelled from the OSCE.
    Is this an attempt to intimidate or what? Or we are talking about the fact that we are Russian barbarians and are not worthy of such an honor as G8. In general, the article smacks of the very fifth column. I personally do not know more than one person who would be against the entry of Crimea into the Russian Federation. And even people who do not like Putin say that after this they will go vote for him.
    1. supertiger21
      supertiger21 15 March 2014 16: 43
      +4
      I have a feeling that the author of the article is a Western agent who was assigned to educate stories about the "all-missing". You are right, the article is indeed from the category of "intimidation".
    2. ty60
      ty60 15 March 2014 16: 58
      +1
      I would have fought for the Crimea. In the territory of Rio de Zhytomyr
    3. ty60
      ty60 15 March 2014 16: 58
      -1
      I would have fought for the Crimea. In the territory of Rio de Zhytomyr
  15. Kuzbassovets
    Kuzbassovets 15 March 2014 16: 09
    +13
    and what is the article about? will there be problems? so no one says that everything will be cloudless ... but if you give the Crimea, even the last Bedouin in Kalahari will spit on Russia
    1. tolian
      tolian 15 March 2014 18: 36
      0
      In the Kalahari Bushmen.
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 15 March 2014 20: 11
        0
        What difference does it make: Bushmen, Bedouins, yes even Papuans or Pygmies ...
  16. Name
    Name 15 March 2014 16: 09
    +11
    And in a drum that:"... Hungarians in Romania and Slovakia can now enter Hungary, Serbs in Bosnia and Herzegovina - in Serbia, and Catalans - declare themselves an independent state ..."and absolutely drum that somebody tongue DOES NOT recognize legitimacy ...THE MOST IMPORTANT THAT RUSSIA RECOGNIZES THE REFERENDUM, THIS IS ENOUGH! hi
    1. Aleksandr68
      Aleksandr68 15 March 2014 19: 24
      +2
      Ossetia and Abkhazia were not recognized at the beginning either. Povizzhat-povizzhat and recognize where they will go
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 15 March 2014 20: 16
        0
        Everyone has come to terms with the de facto independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia from Georgia, and de jure recognition is only a matter of time.
        1. wax
          wax 15 March 2014 22: 02
          +2
          And Abkhazia, and South Ossetia, and Transnistria, if they vote in referenda for joining Russia, will be accepted into Russia. But Russia does not need anyone's recognition - it is one of the main organizers of the UN.
  17. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 15 March 2014 16: 09
    +10
    An unpleasant article. A man, a campaign, is not in himself. Either his wife left or she got tired of living in our country.
    1. Patriot.ru.
      Patriot.ru. 15 March 2014 16: 25
      +5
      He always was like that. He used to shine on the echo of Moscow.
      1. tolian
        tolian 15 March 2014 18: 39
        +2
        Yes, I don’t understand at all. The case with the annexation of Crimea is rare. The fact that Israel and Russia are on one side of the barricade. And Lyova s.et.
    2. supertiger21
      supertiger21 15 March 2014 16: 45
      +1
      Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
      An unpleasant article. A man, a campaign, is not in himself. Either his wife left or she got tired of living in our country.


      drinks
      They said exactly!
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  18. Siberian19
    Siberian19 15 March 2014 16: 10
    +5
    provocative and narrow-minded analysis! strictly pro-western style! all wrong with him! am
  19. TSOOBER
    TSOOBER 15 March 2014 16: 10
    +4
    . But the referendum is a rather rude instrument, and therefore Napoleon III and Hitler loved them so much. - A referendum is a rude instrument - PPC, but what about democracy - a referendum is its highest manifestation! Although what kind of democracy is no words!
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 15 March 2014 20: 33
      0
      Maybe they are suggesting that Swiss referendums not be recognized?
      In the United States, even the president is not elected on the basis of universal and equal (one person - one vote) suffrage, so for me, the highest example of democracy, and with freedom of speech - the further, the "freer" ...
  20. Arkan
    Arkan 15 March 2014 16: 10
    +2
    Another dismay.
  21. v53993
    v53993 15 March 2014 16: 11
    +2
    Gentlemen, bets are made. On the green cloth of a casino, which is called the Russian Empire .... Gentlemen, it's too late to change rates. What is life for us, money is copper, we will put it in the light ... England is in the ward (and tries it is needed, it will die soon from old age)
  22. Kars
    Kars 15 March 2014 16: 12
    +16
    I’m wildly sorry that I’m not getting into my business.
    And why should prices rise in the Russian Federation? Do you buy energy from yourselves for dollars? I understand Ukraine, we have all energy carriers tied to the dollar? And Russia?
    Well imitate laptops, computers, bananas?
    so simple remark.
    1. dmitrij.blyuz
      dmitrij.blyuz 15 March 2014 16: 34
      +2
      Oh! CARS! hi It’s a long time ago! And our prices go up, gore them in a stump! Energy carriers are also tied to the dollar, bite their mosquito! But, not everything is so bad as it seems. The trip will be worse, judging by the forecasts of "economists"! - we'll see!
    2. PN
      PN 15 March 2014 16: 56
      +2
      But somehow they (the oligarchs and owners of oil towers) tried to explain this with childish excuses, they say that the prices on the world market are high and it’s profitable for us to sell energy for a cordon. and if we sell houses, then we supposedly suffer virtual losses from what we could sell abroad, but we sell houses. Well, since the state is sitting on the same feeding trough, no one blames this except the population.
    3. ty60
      ty60 15 March 2014 17: 04
      0
      The ruble exchange rate to the yuan-20 to one, the dollar and the euro exchange rate is worthless today. T From Shaov, Can it stand on these rails?
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    5. Penzyac
      Penzyac 15 March 2014 20: 46
      0
      It's simple, prices for resources are determined in London, and they are in dollars, only the state can, if it wants, force Russian companies to sell Russian products inside Russia at different domestic prices and volumes corresponding to their needs, a question for the state ...
      And the oligarchs are all the same, that are Ukrainian, that Russian, that American ...
    6. Cynic
      Cynic 17 March 2014 15: 06
      0
      Quote: Kars
      And why should prices rise in Russia

      Capitalism, however.
      Excess profits, a very sweet thing.
      Frightened, why not try?
      "Nothing personal, it's just business."

      wink
  23. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 15 March 2014 16: 13
    +4
    Lurie ... Lurie - I don’t remember something. Which regiment did you serve?
    1. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 15 March 2014 17: 06
      +3
      "a.hamster55" Lurie ... Lurie, I don't remember. What regiment did you serve in? "
      I doubt that he served at all.
      This is our everything.))) Our intelligentsia. The conscience of our country. At the same time, "mind" and "brain" are more precise zaum.))) Professor of Russian history in American colleges. I can even imagine how and what he taught there. ...
      The son of the historian Yakov Solomonovich Lurie and the founder of the first cardiological resuscitation in the USSR, Professor Irina Efimovna Ganelina (1921-2010) [1], the grandson of the philologist Solomon Yakovlevich Lurie.
      In 1967 he graduated from the Physics and Mathematics School No. 30. In 1973 he graduated from the Faculty of Economics of Leningrad State University (expelled for a year for a draft of a political leaflet, worked as a milling machine operator at a factory]. Worked as a tour guide and research assistant at the Museum of City History. In 1987 at Leningrad State University defended his thesis for the degree of candidate of historical sciences on the topic "Factors of leadership in the Russian liberation movement."
      In 1991-1993, he was a professor of Russian history at American colleges.
      Since 1995 - a writing journalist (articles were published in the magazines: "Seance", "Bee", "Pulse", "Career-Capital", "Kommersant", "Calendar"), "Ogonyok", "Business Petersburg" author of many articles on history.
      Since 2000 - presenter of the program on the radio "Echo of St. Petersburg". In 2001 - winner of the Golden Pen contest for the best work on radio and television.
      Since 2002, Lev Lurie is the founder and editor of the magazine "Quarterly Overseer" (Publishing House "Sobaka.ru"). From 2006 to 2009 Director of the Documentary Broadcasting Directorate of the Broadcasting Company “Petersburg - Channel Five”.
      In 2009 - winner of the Grand Prix “Journalist of the Year” contest [2] “Golden Pen”.
      From 2004 to 2009, the Director of the Documentary Broadcasting Directorate of Channel 5 was the author and host of television projects.
      Since 2011 - the founder of the House of Culture of Leo Lurie. Archived from the original on February 2, 2013.
      Infa from Wikipedia.
  24. pts-m
    pts-m 15 March 2014 16: 14
    +2
    to see this journalist decided to promote with the idea of ​​“as if something, but I warned you, etc.”, thus earning cheap authority.
  25. W1950
    W1950 15 March 2014 16: 14
    +4
    Don’t be afraid, Mr. Lev Lurie, your historical homeland will always let you into the Dead Sea.
    1. serge siberian
      serge siberian 15 March 2014 18: 17
      +1
      it seems to know the story. However, it forgot, under an agreement with defeated Turkey (it seems that I had been in school for about 30 years) the Crimea was only for Russia! if it doesn’t read Turkey again, and Ukraine will wash it all the same.
  26. StrateG
    StrateG 15 March 2014 16: 17
    +7
    I read a quarter of the article, I realized that the next vyser and went into the comments ... turned out to be right.
    1. Lantau
      Lantau 15 March 2014 16: 31
      +5
      Correctly. I did the same.
    2. supertiger21
      supertiger21 15 March 2014 16: 49
      +2
      Quote: StrateG
      turned out to be right.


      good Yes, how! An article is another nonsense ... fellow "all-baked"!
  27. nemec55
    nemec55 15 March 2014 16: 18
    +6
    Only dunce walks twice on the same rake. Therefore, I am sure that our miscalculators have weighed all the pros and cons. And from myself, it’s better in the ring and personality than without the ring and in slavery.
    Ps sorry for the errors android steering wheel road.
  28. Rodriques
    Rodriques 15 March 2014 16: 18
    +2
    "- There is nothing to digest, but the problem lies in the precedent that changes the rules. We have created a new way of redistributing the world, first of all, Europe, which can not suit anyone."

    Well, what kind of nonsense, an article that is designed for children? What is the precedent? Which rules? Author, look around! laughing Who is the author of the original, tell me.
  29. sPS
    sPS 15 March 2014 16: 19
    +4
    article minus only because they are alive those who defended the right to life with their blood HOW to look into their eyes they all looted and plundered now the Nazis came to power (God forgive me) .... am
  30. from punk
    from punk 15 March 2014 16: 19
    +3
    did not understand the article. such a fantastic story. what the hell
  31. hz123
    hz123 15 March 2014 16: 20
    +3
    Russia will be expelled from the OSCE, but we don’t need it? You don’t need to join these sharashka. We must quietly help the dermocracy in Europe so that they don’t have time for dirty tricks
  32. alex-cn
    alex-cn 15 March 2014 16: 21
    +3
    Which ring? In Asia they won’t be able to close it, and in Europe not everyone will like it, but if in the winter I start to freeze .... they will completely forget about it ...
  33. uulukbek
    uulukbek 15 March 2014 16: 22
    -5
    Yes, the bets have been made! Have you set them correctly? This is a question of questions. One can relate to the article differently, but the common sense in it is here, no doubt can be said, YES.
    1. supertiger21
      supertiger21 15 March 2014 16: 52
      +2
      Quote: uulukbek
      there is common sense in it, here, no doubt, YES.


      And where is he ??? Some intimidation and allegations that everything is lost)))
    2. Penzyac
      Penzyac 15 March 2014 21: 09
      +1
      Common sense in the article is only from the point of view of an adaptive coward.
      1. uulukbek
        uulukbek 16 March 2014 18: 08
        -2
        I don’t know about the coward, about the opportunist, this is written by a person whose name is written in Latin letters.
  34. v53993
    v53993 15 March 2014 16: 23
    +3
    "Russia will take the ring"

    Or it is possible in two rings, or even better in three, so that we have less time to look for the "lord" of the rings There is no time
    , it’s time to plow.
  35. Sinbad
    Sinbad 15 March 2014 16: 24
    +6
    This article is another example of the fifth column in action. It is necessary to strengthen ideological protection. Any war is won or lost, first of all, in the minds of people.
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 15 March 2014 21: 16
      +1
      An ideological war is won not by gagging an ideological adversary, but by a competent, reasoned and, most importantly, true counter-propaganda.
      Therefore, the article is a minus, and the moderator for its publication is a plus.
      The ideological enemy must be known in person.
  36. Per se.
    Per se. 15 March 2014 16: 24
    +13
    “Russia will be ringed,” but did we have other options? Of course, if we continue to ruin the country, our overseas "friends" would be happy and would continue to be "friends" with us, as they would continue, on a sly sly, tighten this ring around Russia tighter until the country weakened so much that it already an ultimatum could be set, conditions could be dictated. We wanted peace and true friendship, honest cooperation, when in the early 90s we believed in world democracy. Alas, the United States initially did not intend to be friends with Russia, hypocritically, despicably and methodically engaged in the destruction of everything that they did not like in our power. No need to deceive yourself, it's not about the Crimea problem, we will always be guilty, and guilty only for the fact that the American jackal wants to eat. Here, just, the lamb for the impudent USA is not worth it. Russia must be strong, and Crimea is the factor that strengthens this strength.
    1. supertiger21
      supertiger21 15 March 2014 16: 58
      +3
      Quote: Per se.
      American jackal wants to eat. But, you should not be a lamb for the insolent USA.


      I support! Isn't it time for this jackal to kick as they follow ?! Vietnam turned out to be by no means a "lamb", but a whole buffalo. I sincerely wish that a possible attack on Syria would become for the Yankees the same shame as the war in the Indo jungle -China.
    2. ty60
      ty60 15 March 2014 17: 11
      +3
      Therefore, we will rearm, accept Crimea. I would also accept Motor Sich as a separate republic.
    3. ty60
      ty60 15 March 2014 17: 11
      0
      Therefore, we will rearm, accept Crimea. I would also accept Motor Sich as a separate republic.
  37. Wiruz
    Wiruz 15 March 2014 16: 24
    +14
    One of the last arguments.
    The last, God forbid, will be Perimeter-M
    1. serge siberian
      serge siberian 15 March 2014 18: 26
      +1
      Wiruz, what kind of diplomacy are we talking about? Even in the European Union they realized that the Nazis seized power.
  38. Sibiryak13
    Sibiryak13 15 March 2014 16: 25
    +4
    What is this for? They messed up crap and gave out analytics. Learn the materiel.
  39. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 15 March 2014 16: 26
    +15
    Hello to American and other UAVs-polite "Pantsir" in Crimea:

    Military vehicles, believed to be Russian, drive on the road near Bakhchisaray March 14, 2014. Russia shipped more troops and armor into Crimea on Friday and repeated its threat to invade other parts of Ukraine, showing no sign of listening to Western pleas to back off from the worst confrontation since the Cold War. REUTERS / David Mdzinarishvili (UKRAINE - Tags: POLITICS CIVIL UNREST MILITARY)
    http://news.yahoo.com/photos/military-vehicles-believed

    What does this mean? That C-400 appeared in Crimea, since the armor divisions are included in the C-400 regiments. Just in the air defense of the Shell there is no shell.
    Here, by the way, is a confirmation of my humble theory:

    96L6, a high-altitude detector from the C-400 complex. Allegedly, the photo was taken in Sevastopol.
    1. Siberian19
      Siberian19 15 March 2014 16: 29
      +3
      beauties! good
    2. v53993
      v53993 15 March 2014 16: 41
      +6
      "Poplar, poplar" in Washington lovers ...
    3. Roman 1977
      Roman 1977 15 March 2014 20: 50
      0
      Well, to make the banderlog more fun, the BM-27 "Uragan" MLRS have been deployed to Crimea
  40. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 15 March 2014 16: 26
    +6
    This article is bullshit! The whole West is corrupt, like a dog running a piece of bread anywhere, what is the rejection of everything .....
  41. explorer
    explorer 15 March 2014 16: 28
    +7
    As I understood the rootless cosmopolitans, another kirdyk and the return of the era of normal people working to their homeland. And at the expense of the ring, it always has been.
  42. pensioner
    pensioner 15 March 2014 16: 28
    +4
    Lurie, you say ... what I’ll remember the number ... So ... Just in case ...
  43. saag
    saag 15 March 2014 16: 29
    +5
    Quote: punk
    such a fantastic plot. what the hell

    this is not science fiction, everything was long well forgotten old, once it had already been through it, though then the system was different, therefore everything survived then
  44. korwet
    korwet 15 March 2014 16: 29
    +5
    Vyser another passive liberalist!
  45. v53993
    v53993 15 March 2014 16: 31
    +12

    We will soon listen to where Washington was.
    At the same time, we’ll dig out Obama.
    1. NovelRZN
      NovelRZN 15 March 2014 17: 40
      +1
      Correct words: "stop devils swearing on blood." They were forgotten by many of our former compatriots in the USSR in the now independent Ukraine ...
  46. Bezarius
    Bezarius 15 March 2014 16: 31
    +3
    This Lev Yakovlevich, an amateur, another tale of economic collapse, when practical experience, including ours, shows that isolation will only benefit us, especially our science, since it will be necessary to replace imports, including high tech.
    1. 17085
      17085 15 March 2014 16: 39
      +3
      I would add that Lev Yakovlevich Lurie, an alien or registered, well, maybe just sick.
    2. Semurg
      Semurg 15 March 2014 20: 05
      -2
      The blockade was after 17 years for modernization had to pay with food, which led to the famine of the 30s, are you ready to starve? (Kazakhs in those years lost up to 40% of the population) The second blockade was after Afgan, what ended up probably in the know? (Did not reach hunger, but Tallons had to be in the news), but as the Russians say "God loves the trinity" now the Russian Federation is again facing the threat of economic sanctions. I fully admit that now, in connection with the events in Crimea, there is a patriotic upsurge in Russia, but the upsurge comes and goes and you always want to eat this is your country and your choice.
      1. Cynic
        Cynic 15 March 2014 21: 49
        +1
        Quote: Semurg
        I always want to eat

        But, based on these your words, then you are no different from Lurie.
        A sort of liberal smirk, mockery.
        These are your fantasies, do not wishful thinking, _
      2. Bezarius
        Bezarius 17 March 2014 23: 54
        0
        The Holodomor was not at all because of the blockade. In fact, until the 30 years in our country there were famines every few years, and to solve this problem once and for all, reforms were carried out, including dispossession. Specifically, in the 30s, the famine stands out among others due to the fact that against the background of natural problems, there were artificially created problems by peasants who did not want to cooperate with the government and destroyed their property, just to not give it away. The blockade did not play a role in this problem.
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  47. vsdvs
    vsdvs 15 March 2014 16: 31
    +6
    And when we collapsed in the 90s, we had no problems? Journalist - provocateur "Can't you draw a parallel between the invasion of Crimea and Afghanistan?"Lurie is a white-bellied.
  48. Yugra
    Yugra 15 March 2014 16: 32
    +2
    leva Lurie is a cheap liberal, and why is he still asked for his opinion? Vaughn, his fellow Germans, Akunin, Makarevich and others are now marching in Moscow and shouting the fascist "glory to Ukraine"
  49. tirazu
    tirazu 15 March 2014 16: 32
    +7
    The fall of the ruble, firstly, has nothing to do with Crimea, and secondly, it is not any "collapse." In general, the article is the very place in the blog of Leheim Ovalny, there are many fans of such creativity.
  50. supertiger21
    supertiger21 15 March 2014 16: 32
    +7
    Here I will show a rare exception - I confidently put a minus! For excessive pessimism and writing an article in the style of "everything is lost." Yes, and I have suspicions that the girl (the author) who wrote the article herself is from Ukraine, which is why there are so many indignations about the secession of Crimea.
    1. v53993
      v53993 15 March 2014 16: 46
      +2
      Yes, and I have suspicions that the girl (author), who wrote the article, is from Ukraine herself, which is why there are so many indignations towards the separation of the Crimea.
      All the women are chickens. Well, a girl can be .... forgiven ...
      1. Patriot.ru.
        Patriot.ru. 15 March 2014 17: 24
        +2
        He is male in appearance.
        1. skifnn
          skifnn 15 March 2014 20: 24
          +1
          this is it, it doesn’t have a floor. By definition, it doesn’t care for whom to substitute. The main thing is that it can mumble occasionally.
    2. Stinger
      Stinger 15 March 2014 20: 10
      +1
      Lev Yakovlevich Lurie, she is.