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Syria gathered again to bomb. Why and if

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After the failure of the conference in Geneva, the events in Syria seem to be returning to the starting point of August-September last year, that is, by the time the agreement between the US and Russia on the chemical disarmament of the Syrian army has not yet been reached. In Washington, they again talked about the possibility of a military solution to the Syrian problem. West openly resumes deliveries weapons to militants waging war against a legitimate government. Jihadists force Druze to accept Islam in the Salafi version and develop a special code of conduct for Christians in the areas they occupy, effectively turning them into “second-rate people. Saudi-American “cordial harmony” is reviving, the shaken were the events of the fall of 2013. And, according to experts, all this is reminiscent of a vertical race or a ring of eternal return.


Syria gathered again to bomb. Why and if


February Obama Theses

So, what is the current American strategy for Syria? The US claims that they are concerned about the strengthening of the positions of jihadists and radical Islamists (including foreign ones) in the Syrian armed opposition. However, the key task for them is still the maximum weakening of Iran in the Arab world and the axis of resistance (Iran - Syria - Hezbollah) in the Eastern Mediterranean. Given the deplorable experience of intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Obama administration has so far turned against armed intervention in the Syrian conflict. She calls only to intensify the process of chemical disarmament of Syria. In general, experts say about the inconsistency and chaos of American foreign policy in the Syrian sector.

14 February at a hearing in the Senate, Director of the US National Intelligence Service James Clapper made a report on Syria. According to him, the number of militants of the armed opposition in the country is more than 75 thousand people. 25 thousands of them are radical Islamists, and this is the most combat-ready part of the anti-Assad forces. Of particular concern in Washington is the fact that among the Mujahideen volunteers there are at least a thousand citizens from Western Europe (France, Great Britain, Belgium), including not only descendants of Arab immigrants, but also Europeans who accepted Islam. Returning home, these "fighters" will pose a real terrorist threat to the EU countries. The meaning of the message is as follows: Syria has become the main operating base of al-Qaeda (it is silent from whose source this was done); This situation is a threat to the vital interests of the United States.

Possible measures to address this problem were voiced by Obama during the official visit of French President Francois Hollande to Washington. The visit took place on February 14-15 and was held with extraordinary pomp (lunch for 300 people, aviation parade, etc.).

Curiously, the Obama message was addressed specifically to the French leader. It was Paris that was the pioneer of the NATO military operation in Libya in 2011, and since then has pursued an active interventionist policy in Africa (Mali, Central African Republic). During his speech, Obama made a sharp distinction between the American and Russian approach to the Syrian issue. According to him, Russia, of course, made an important contribution to the chemical disarmament of Syria, but at the moment it is blocking the provision of humanitarian assistance to the population of cities that were under the siege of government troops.

Obama was skeptical about the prospects of the Geneva talks and stressed the intention of the United States to step up assistance to the “moderate” opposition. He stated the French-American agreement on Syria and did not rule out the possibility of US armed intervention in the Syrian conflict. “I have never ruled out the possibility of a military operation,” the American leader proclaimed, “but this question must be considered wisely and with all care. By itself, a military solution is not a universal remedy. However, the situation is constantly changing and we do not rule out any solution to the conflict. ”

Saudi-pakistani axis

So, the issue of military intervention is not removed from the agenda. At the same time, the delivery of new types of weapons to Syrian militants, which, in the opinion of their patrons, will help them reach a turning point in the civil war, is already underway. 18 February saw a visit to the United States by the Minister of the Interior of Saudi Arabia, Prince Mohammed bin Nayef, who was also appointed head of the General Intelligence Agency (ERM) instead of the recently retired Prince Bandar. Saudi minister met with national security adviser Susan Rice, and the Syrian theme was a priority during the talks.

Prince Nayef replaced the "king of jihad" Bandar bin Sultan, who showed excessive autonomy and reacted too sharply to "sharp turns" in American foreign policy. Recall that after the US abandoned a military solution to the Syrian problem and agreed to a rapprochement with Iranian pragmatist president Rouhani, Riyadh tried to blackmail the Americans by announcing rapprochement with France, China and even Russia (Prince Bandar’s December visit to Moscow). However, the degree of military-strategic cooperation between the United States and the Saudi kingdom and, more importantly, the size of the capital of the KSA, which are in American banks, forced the princes to resume the former alliance. And for Washington it is better to deal with reliable Saudi partners than obstinate and not always predictable Iranians.

After the talks, Prince Nayef and Rice held a regular meeting of the “Friends of Syria” group, which was also attended by the heads of the special services of Jordan, Turkey and Qatar. According to David Ignatius, a Middle Eastern observer at Washington Post, the meeting discussed the possibility of strengthening the armed forces of the SSA, including through the supply of portable anti-aircraft and anti-tank installations. At the same time, the “moderate” militants were tasked with fighting not only with government forces, but also with jihadists from the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL). "Friends of Syria" also discussed the problems of training militants in training camps in Jordan. Currently, 250 people pass through these camps every month. About 1000 militants have already been prepared by American instructors. Saudis are insisting that the capacity of the training camps be doubled.

Saudi special services promised to supply anti-government armed units with portable MANPAD anti-aircraft defense systems made in China and anti-tank missiles. Perhaps these types of weapons will be delivered from the warehouses of the Pakistani army.

Indeed, recently, observers have noted the intensification of contacts between Riyadh and Islamabad. Only in February, the Foreign Minister of the Kingdom of Prince Saud Al-Faisal and the Crown Prince, the same Minister of Defense Salman bin Abdel Aziz, visited the Pakistani capital. The two countries traditionally had good relations, but now they are gradually transforming into a strategic partnership. This process went especially fast after the new government came to power, headed by Nawaz Sharif, who was traditionally a Saudi agent of influence in Pakistan’s power corridors.

Recall that after the military coup of 1999, when Pervez Musharraf signed the death sentence to Sharif, this politician fled to Riyadh. So he owes the Saudi royal family not only his business success, but his life as well. It is not surprising that the Saudis are counting on Pakistan’s military assistance in the future conflict with Iran and on the assistance of Pakistani instructors in working with the Mujahideen in the Middle East. The combat capability of the armed forces of Saudi Arabia itself, despite multi-billion purchases of American weapons, is approaching zero. And military cooperation with Pakistan is becoming an urgent issue for Riyadh.

Will the Syrian Free Army survive?

Meanwhile, in Syria itself, fighting continues, on the one hand, between government troops and jihadists, on the other, between the Syrian Free Army (SSA) and Islamic radicals from ISIS and Jabhat al-Nusra.

An analysis of the fighting since the beginning of the year shows that, despite local successes, it is difficult for Syrian government forces to achieve a decisive breakthrough. We are not talking about stripping large areas from the presence of militants. As a rule, the government army uses the following tactics: it blocks the city block captured by the militants, leads the civilian population along a specially created corridor, and then fires it with heavy artillery or Grad installations.

However, and the militants, who never managed to create a single command, it is difficult to resist the government forces. Under these conditions, part of the detachments of the Syrian Free Army prefers reconciliation with the government. This contributes to a fierce feud between the secular militants of the SSA and the radical jihadists. The presence of foreign mercenaries among jihadists, who often set their own rules and view Syria as an occupied territory, is increasingly annoying to secular rebels. In addition, the militants lost the massive popular support they enjoyed in 2012. As a result, the Assad generals succeeded in concluding local truces between supporters of the government and the SSA field commanders in the southern suburbs of Damascus Barze, Muaddamiyat and Babbil. Under the terms of these truces, militants confiscate heavy weapons, but leave them small arms. At the entrance to some areas, joint checkpoints are set up from government troops and militants. The SSA fighters are invited to either join the government army or remain in the areas occupied by them.

The disintegration of the SSA undoubtedly causes concern among the western patrons of this organization. A meeting of Free Army commanders announced on February 16 the suspension of General Salim Idris. Idris was dismissed for "paralysis in the military command over the past months."

Idris successor as commander of the SSA was Abdel-Ilahi Bashir al-Nuaimi. Nueimi was a career general in the Syrian army who deserted July 13 2012. The reason for his transition to the opposition was the government repression against his native tribe Nueim in the province of Quneitra. Until February of this year, Nuaimi commanded the front of the SSA in this province.

He is an ardent supporter of the military intervention of the United States and its NATO allies. In mid-February, along with secretly arrived in the country NKRS leader Ahmed al-Jarboy Nuaimi visited the positions of the militants and assured them that the new weapons, which are planned to be supplied by the "friends of Syria", will help to achieve a turning point in the war.

However, according to experts, it does not make sense to rely on the “weapon of retaliation” (portable anti-aircraft and anti-tank installations). As the retired Afghan general noted in an interview with the Al-Safir newspaper, in reality such installations did not have a decisive influence on the course of the war in Afghanistan over the 1979 – 1989 years. “It’s just that our helicopter pilots learned to fly lower, and we had to conduct more frequent artillery fire,” he said.

The events of the beginning of 2014 of the year show that the situation in Syria is at an impasse. On the one hand, the positions of the Assad government, which controls the main highways and most of the provincial centers, are stronger than a year ago. On the other hand, the government army cannot completely defeat the militants. And the United States and the countries of the Persian Gulf do not stop the assistance of the armed opposition, translating the Syrian conflict into a chronic phase, by analogy with the civil war in Lebanon, which lasted from 1975 to 1990 a year.
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  1. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 15 March 2014 15: 59
    +15
    Syria will stand. Russia is not alone on their side. NATO banderlogs do not want to die either. They will not bomb. This is a direct challenge to Putin. But under the guise of business in Ukraine, they will not have the courage. China is also not at all side. Although, it will not get involved. It seems that Obama is being sent by someone. The President is damn!
    1. elmi
      elmi 15 March 2014 16: 08
      +17
      In Washington, they again started talking about the possibility of a military solution to the Syrian problem.

      Bluffing! They decided to bargain with us like we don’t touch Syria, you don’t attach Crimea. We understood that we shouldn’t scare us with sanctions, so we decided to press on the sore spots. It’s time for them to wake up, the 90 policy has passed, everything will be mirrored. America’s era is ending, and Russia is starting .
      1. fif21
        fif21 15 March 2014 16: 24
        +7
        Mattress makers want to impose "sanctions" against us, Russia has its hands free. Stop the export of chemical weapons, help Assad provide him with military assistance. URGENTLY!
        1. svetlomor
          svetlomor 15 March 2014 16: 52
          +10
          Put all weapons under the agreements, S-300 and everything else and a large group of military specialists.
          1. Pirotol2010
            Pirotol2010 15 March 2014 17: 29
            -9
            How to deliver the S-300, advisers and everything else?
          2. kirqiz ssr
            kirqiz ssr 15 March 2014 17: 53
            -10%
            Israel has bombed how many of these with 300, he sneezed on.
            1. typhoon7
              typhoon7 15 March 2014 18: 37
              +4
              You saw the destroyed 300. What they showed in the photo is "stoves" and judging by the rust it is possible that she died a natural death. There are complexes there, and there are anti-ship missiles and a lot of other things, the problem is different, Israel is throwing bombs (missiles) over Lebanon or Turkey, try to shoot them down there. In addition to air defense (especially over mountainous areas), modern interceptors are needed. Victory in this war will not be quick, but the army is making progress unambiguously, they entered Yabrud, the last stronghold of the militants in the Lebanese direction.
            2. Alexstalker
              Alexstalker 15 March 2014 18: 42
              +2
              The C300 system does not detect americosis radar (blind). And surrender as in Iraq, the generals for the loot. Communication systems were bought by NATO, like our Serdyukov. NATO Mistral Corvettes
            3. Alexstalker
              Alexstalker 15 March 2014 18: 42
              0
              The C300 system does not detect americosis radar (blind). And surrender as in Iraq, the generals for the loot. Communication systems were bought by NATO, like our Serdyukov. NATO Mistral Corvettes
          3. XAHAHATE
            XAHAHATE 15 March 2014 20: 09
            0
            They can use the services of mercenaries, that is, not by the Americans .. But their write-off technique is all the same .. But it is clear that the snakes are rushing around, afraid ... To fight for money and the Motherland, things are fundamentally different
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      3. Sandov
        Sandov 15 March 2014 19: 44
        0
        Quote: elmi
        Bluffing! They decided to bargain with us like we don’t touch Syria, you don’t attach Crimea. We understood that we shouldn’t scare us with sanctions, so we decided to press on the sore spots. It’s time for them to wake up, the 90 policy has passed, everything will be mirrored. America’s era is ending, and Russia is starting .

        Banderlog was released from caches in order to drop Syria and punish Russia. Will it work out? I doubt it. The world has changed.
        1. XAHAHATE
          XAHAHATE 15 March 2014 20: 11
          0
          I also doubt it. Some convulsions)) we again found chemical weapons) and so an infinite number of times ... If not one but ... RF)
    2. Siberian19
      Siberian19 15 March 2014 16: 20
      +5
      so they’ve all been sitting under the Fed for the past 100 years, damn American puppet presidents!
      1. Obama
        Obama 15 March 2014 17: 41
        +9
        Russia withdraws money from the USA
        From the accounts of the US Federal Reserve, 104 billion securities were withdrawn. How do you like this news?
        1. Alexstalker
          Alexstalker 15 March 2014 18: 54
          0
          that's a plus. and minus oligarchs - no
        2. Alexstalker
          Alexstalker 15 March 2014 18: 54
          0
          that's a plus. and minus oligarchs - no
    3. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 15 March 2014 17: 02
      +5
      Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
      It seems that Obama is sending someone

      This is already known. The Rothschilds, Morgan, Rockefellers, etc. Wealthy Jews, one of the representatives of world government. The president in the USA is just a doll for beauty.
      1. Alexstalker
        Alexstalker 15 March 2014 18: 49
        0
        And films are available about September 11, who rules the world (Puppeteers Conspiracy (2012) REN TV)
      2. Alexstalker
        Alexstalker 15 March 2014 18: 49
        +1
        And films are available about September 11, who rules the world (Puppeteers Conspiracy (2012) REN TV)
      3. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz 16 March 2014 13: 45
        0
        This is understandable. Well. Then the United States, as it were, would not want to, but will have to take Russia as an autonomy. Sad! laughing
    4. Duke
      Duke 15 March 2014 17: 17
      +4
      There is an attack on Russia in many directions.
    5. platitsyn70
      platitsyn70 15 March 2014 17: 27
      +1
      It seems that Obama is sending someone. The president is a damn
      I did not understand, I have a feeling that everyone agreed and only I don’t know anything, and who I am to you. The voice from above is "goof".
    6. vo.dum
      vo.dum 15 March 2014 17: 49
      +3
      It may not survive ... - people are not iron ... in my best way for us and for Syria would be to create problems for countries donors of the war ... such as popular uprisings, uprisings, etc., the reason is unimportant, maybe be any ... let them solve problems at home ... especially in Saudi Arabia and Qatar ... in the United States the same problems are enough and the population has plenty of weapons ... there are a lot of marginals as well as ours ...
    7. Alexstalker
      Alexstalker 15 March 2014 18: 28
      +2
      Banderlogs are powerful in hindsight! And amerikozy can bomb. And not the first time. Remember the story of the Balkans
    8. Alexstalker
      Alexstalker 15 March 2014 18: 28
      0
      Banderlogs are powerful in hindsight! And amerikozy can bomb. And not the first time. Remember the story of the Balkans
    9. XAHAHATE
      XAHAHATE 15 March 2014 20: 07
      0
      It’s being directed by the Devil .. What am I sure of, not because I don’t understand what is happening in the world and I don’t have a reasoned explanation, but on a sensual level ... I relate to religion as a platform for discussion ..
    10. kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya 16 March 2014 08: 33
      0
      This is what the puppeteers from Washington are preparing for Ukraine! Only corrupt Bandera "rulers" are happy about this. Woe to the Ukrainian people if they don’t come to their senses and shake these "new Gauleiters" from their necks!
  2. supertiger21
    supertiger21 15 March 2014 16: 02
    +5
    Yes, the liberators' hands are itching! "Evil Putin" does not allow democracy to spread))) lol
  3. W1950
    W1950 15 March 2014 16: 02
    +7
    Yes, these shtatovskie creatures are capable of everything to avenge the Crimea. There need to deliver more C300. And the faster the better.
    1. dude_not_in_theme
      dude_not_in_theme 15 March 2014 16: 10
      +5
      Agreed. Urgently deliver S-300 to Syrians, let them destroy the "democrats".
      1. I do not care
        I do not care 15 March 2014 16: 38
        +5
        already is, there wasn’t, b would have long been bombed laughing
  4. homosum20
    homosum20 15 March 2014 16: 06
    +6
    Finish with Ukraine - it will be necessary to finish things in Syria. And then they threw it in the middle. Suppress these - and we will be engaged in the Saudis. By the way, they owe them for Volgograd. We have everything recorded.
    1. vo.dum
      vo.dum 15 March 2014 17: 52
      +2
      And Qatar is the same ... for the ambassador and other sins must answer ...
  5. sscha
    sscha 15 March 2014 16: 09
    +6
    Will Syria survive ???
    Brother, what is the strength?
    Strength is in truth, brother !!!
    hi
    ZY It's time for our S-300, "Relikt", "Bumblebee", "Bastion" and hi etc. start silently deliver ...
    1. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 15 March 2014 17: 28
      +4
      Quote: sscha
      Will Syria survive ???
      Brother, what is the strength?
      Strength is in truth, brother !!!
      hi
      ZY It's time for our S-300, "Relikt", "Bumblebee", "Bastion" and hi etc. start silently deliver ...


      Passed it already. request

      To effectively arm Assad, it is necessary to remove Hezbollah from Syria, which, under the guise of "fraternal aid" to the Syrians, is gutting Syrian military warehouses and dragging everything that is bad for its storage in Lebanon. This, of course, causes a "bombing reflex" on the part of Israel, as they say "out of harm's way."
      Hezbollah, Iran's puppet, is doing Assad a disservice. And Iran, by and large, does not give a damn about how many Syrians are dying in this war, for them "weak Assad - dependent Assad - convenient Assad", and in general for the Persians - Arabs, these are second-class people and consumables.

      While there were no hezbollahs in Syria, there were no air strikes at arms depots. It is time to separate the grain from the chaff, if Russia is interested in legitimizing the Assad government, it is necessary to separate it from relations with terrorist organizations.
      Israel, by and large, doesn’t give a damn about the Russian-USA intrigues around Syria, this is a matter of their own security.
      1. Issam
        Issam 15 March 2014 18: 23
        +2
        100% support.

        Assad clutches at Hezbollah, like a man drowning in a straw, and this is understandable. And only if he can really be helped in the fight against extremists, then it will be possible to put a condition so that Hezbollah ceases to cooperate.
        Assad could even get help from Israel on this matter. I think Israel equally does not need either Hezbollah or Alkaid. But here diplomats will have to work hard.
      2. Sandov
        Sandov 15 March 2014 19: 48
        +1
        And Us Rat
        Recently in Russia there was a political scientist from Israel Avigdor Eskin. He called himself a Zionist. More to such Zionists. The world would be better.
        I believe Israel will someday be an ally of Russia.
  6. Partizan
    Partizan 15 March 2014 16: 11
    +2
    ... during an official visit to Washington by French President Francois Hollande. The visit took place on February 14-15 and was held with extraordinary pomp (lunch for 300 people, an air parade, etc.).

    Fatten, bourgeois damned.

    Russia, of course, ... but at the moment it is blocking the provision of humanitarian aid to the population of cities that have been besieged by government troops.

    This is how it blocks? Surely there Russian aircraft fly ?! and they don’t give a bomb? belay
  7. Siberian19
    Siberian19 15 March 2014 16: 22
    +2
    Is it an accident? hi The next exercises of the British Navy almost turned into a tragedy. The sailors accidentally fired a 45-pound torpedo in the direction of the dock, where the Vanguard nuclear submarine refueling takes place.

    The shipyard workers did not believe their eyes when they saw that a two-meter torpedo was fired from a warship, according to the Daily Mail. The projectile flew 200 meters and fell into the compartment for storing nuclear fuel. The catastrophe was avoided only due to the fact that the torpedo was training, and there was no charge in it.

    “We can confirm that the incident occurred on board the HMS Argyll warship when the ship docked at the Plymouth Naval Base. During the exercises, an unloaded torpedo was fired towards the shipyard. As a result of the incident, no explosion occurred, no one was injured, ”the press service of the British Royal Navy said.

    A special commission has already begun an investigation into the incident.

    Note that the HMS Argyll is the oldest ship that is in service with the British Navy. The ship was repaired in 2009, now it is equipped with anti-aircraft missiles, Harpoon launchers, 4.5-inch guns and two 12.75-inch Sting Ray torpedo tubes.

    This is not the first time in the UK that tragedies are barely avoided during military exercises. In early March, on the plain in Salisbury, where sailors often train from the base in Plymouth, a projectile was launched that deviated significantly from the course and miraculously did not explode in one of the nearest villages.
    1. kare
      kare 15 March 2014 19: 24
      0
      Shaitan however what
    2. Vadim12
      Vadim12 15 March 2014 22: 39
      0
      45 kg a little something 450 can
  8. Consul-t
    Consul-t 15 March 2014 16: 34
    +1
    Done on all sides. It's time to stop paying attention to them and listen to their cries.
    You have to play by your own rules.
    You see, they can climb into Syria, but we cannot go to Crimea.
    Double crap wetness.
  9. I do not care
    I do not care 15 March 2014 16: 35
    +6
    Quote: fif21
    Mattress makers want to impose "sanctions" against us, Russia has its hands free. Stop the export of chemical weapons, help Assad provide him with military assistance. URGENTLY!
  10. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx 15 March 2014 16: 40
    +1
    this is where portable needle complexes go stolen from the army depots, at least I think the Yankees will send it!
  11. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx 15 March 2014 16: 42
    +5
    Serving Russia! It is necessary to wash the star wink
  12. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 15 March 2014 16: 56
    +2
    Mongrel! They didn’t bite here, we’ll try there. We have to demonstrate that not everyone has beaten their teeth!
  13. mihasik
    mihasik 15 March 2014 17: 01
    +2
    To complete all world conflicts at one point someone needs to bomb the United States.
  14. BARR-D
    BARR-D 15 March 2014 17: 05
    0
    When will this mattress thing roll away from Syria? I think they will tackle Syria after the referendum in Crimea, God forbid that everything goes well, without provocations and attempts by Banderlog to disrupt this event, you need to raise morale and turnips to mattress mats, otherwise they strained themselves in Ukraine - like a victory - Russia is knocked down, and then bang and the Crimea was chopped off, and even the southeast is giving the heat to the fullest, the whole world community giggles to itself (well, giggle loudly, otherwise the State Department will consider this laughter not democratic.) they themselves know, a bad feeling that it is not in vain that Nezalezhnaya is pulling up its "numerous troops" to digging, right now the leadership of the military will be brainwashed and they will give the order to establish constitutional order.

    Assad slapped the moment, under the guise of the Olympics, chemical disarmament, the split between the SSA and the completely turned (if this is not a clever maneuver of the friends of Syria), the events in Venezuela and Ukraine had to be slaughtered by all possible means, quarters with the ground level where this creature is being deployed .

    What is interesting about the situation in Turkey is the displacement of Erdogan and Co. who did not fulfill their duties or did the people really oppose him?
    1. kodxnumx
      kodxnumx 15 March 2014 18: 01
      +2
      it’s not up to the south-east of Ukraine that they pull us away from the east, we just need to urgently deliver weapons so that they can hold out until we read everything from Ukraine back to the graves and drive out where the puffs 41-45g got out and kill the aspen so that the pain would not disturb the white light stinks of its own, carrion! Well, there we will slowly squeeze out these vampires of the human race, the Yankees will survive the days they will devour themselves!
    2. Sandov
      Sandov 15 March 2014 19: 53
      0
      Quote: BARR-D
      What is interesting about the situation in Turkey is the displacement of Erdogan and Co. who did not fulfill their duties or did the people really oppose him?

      The Americans began to create Kurdistan.
  15. andrei332809
    andrei332809 15 March 2014 17: 18
    +1
    Obama administration so far opposed armed intervention in Syrian conflict

    truth???
    and to look from the other side, democratizers are afraid that more and more people see their predatory mug. no longer hide behind words about heavenly living
  16. mamont5
    mamont5 15 March 2014 17: 19
    +1
    Trying to pull away the situation. But after the sanctions, our hands will really be untied. And China in this case is on the same side with us.
  17. BARR-D
    BARR-D 15 March 2014 17: 21
    +1
    And it also seems that they still have to give up Crimea (or, more correctly, return it), only they will begin to strangle it (electricity, water, food) 1,5 times the population is not shukhry-flies. At an accelerated pace, the association with the EU, which has already gone, and if not joining NATO, then a temporary document on mutual assistance in the event of an external military threat, so to speak, legally protected from the "invasion" of Russia to protect citizens, is a completely different song - almost a member of NATO and then calmly begin to gouge Syria.
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 15 March 2014 17: 30
      +1
      Quote: BARR-D
      defend legally from the "invasion" of Russia

      but actually? yes, these aggressors will never play war with us. and shit on all fronts is yes
      1. BARR-D
        BARR-D 15 March 2014 18: 13
        +1
        Quote: andrei332809
        but actually? yes, these aggressors will never play war with us. and shit on all fronts is yes


        and "in fact" a completely different rhetoric will be and completely different opportunities for maneuver and countermeasures (it is one thing to tear off a piece of political and economic activity from US under the slogans of democracy, freedom of the people and other heresy, and another to defend one's own piece cut off from a neighbor, which they already consider their psychologically, the situation is completely different, here it is much easier to lull the biomass of its citizens through the media so that they do not show off). And now, for the most part, you are talking about international law and sovereignty + sanctions in a simplified form to keep bad guys out of Ala Shoigu and others, from more serious sanctions themselves hl in full.
        But with all this, they had enough courage to send drones into the "airspace of the Crimea", and then the moron knows whose they are and they perfectly understood that they could be shot down or intercepted and no one really cares about it. If all this is not a duck of course.
  18. shelva
    shelva 15 March 2014 17: 28
    +2
    With the filing of the Americans and their henchmen in Syria, the simplest version of the conflict continues, when civilians are held hostage by the militants. Dissolving in urban neighborhoods, Mujahideen hide behind defenseless people and prevent them from providing humanitarian assistance.
  19. alone
    alone 15 March 2014 17: 29
    +2
    In our time, nothing is impossible. They can bomb. A ground operation will not be needed. There is someone to die for. And if you think about everything that happened within 2-3 months, it’s all right.
    To reduce its dependence on Russian gas supplies to Europe, the West will do everything. We need Qatari and Iranian fields. So you cannot exclude the possibility of striking. Everything is at stake. Or or.
  20. Markusmooon
    Markusmooon 15 March 2014 17: 40
    +2
    americos fight only with those who cannot answer,
  21. Pacificus
    Pacificus 15 March 2014 17: 40
    +1
    Expected with Syria. Americans understand that Russia needs to be crushed from all sides, Ukraine, Syria, Venezuela, etc. .... they will only choke ...
  22. delfinN
    delfinN 15 March 2014 17: 44
    +1
    The bomb is itching. Bomb Saudi Arabia. We do not mind.
  23. Thompson
    Thompson 15 March 2014 17: 51
    +1
    I don’t know how it really is, I’ll say what I think.
    It is a pity that ours have not yet learned how to issue real-time target designations from outer space (I think so). It seems weak to them so far. Zhdemss !!!!!!!!!!
    And so - they are on Assad, we are on his opponents ...
  24. Yarik
    Yarik 15 March 2014 17: 57
    +2
    svetlomor Today, 16:52 PM ↑ New
    Put all weapons under the agreements, S-300 and everything else and a large group of military specialists.


    And volunteers. Or "volunteers". At the discretion of the Supreme Command.
  25. Russian_man
    Russian_man 15 March 2014 18: 16
    +1
    In Syria, the air defense systems that we supplied them, let's see how they succeed in bombing
  26. nik.tmn72
    nik.tmn72 15 March 2014 18: 36
    0
    we still play fair, it's time to use their rules (not necessarily open).
  27. 1304
    1304 15 March 2014 18: 43
    +2
    It's time to deliver a disarming strike on the American dollar.
  28. Alexstalker
    Alexstalker 15 March 2014 18: 58
    0
    Quote: 1304
    It's time to deliver a disarming strike on the American dollar.


    Puppeteers conspiracy (2012) REN TV will not allow
  29. Urri
    Urri 15 March 2014 21: 59
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    Quote: Obama
    Russia withdraws money from the USA
    From the accounts of the US Federal Reserve, 104 billion securities were withdrawn. How do you like this news?


    A drop in the sea. 2,83 trillion left in the Federal Reserve. But if China follows the example of Russia, then many will not live until morning.

    I am only happy that behind all this leapfrog Obama finally did not give a damn about the internal economic problems in the USA. The bankruptcy of Detroit was the first call. It was urgent to solve something. Decided, as usual, in amercy - to distract the people to an external enemy, so that they could calmly spend their time until the end.
  30. AVIATOR36662
    AVIATOR36662 16 March 2014 00: 12
    0
    The article practically bypasses Israel's "interest" in this protracted conflict. Of course, without Israel, as one of the most interested players in this "game", the conflict will not be resolved. Security is the main priority of the Jewish state, in this case Assad has an extra enemy. that Russia at the moment will be strongly concerned about the safety of compatriots in Ukraine (the return of Russian territories) will also not strengthen Assad's position.
  31. Evkur
    Evkur 16 March 2014 01: 44
    0
    Until Syria falls, there will be no big war "(S. Vanna)
  32. dzau
    dzau 16 March 2014 04: 52
    0
    Quote: And Us Rat
    Quote: sscha
    Will Syria survive ???
    Brother, what is the strength?
    Strength is in truth, brother !!!
    hi
    ZY It's time for our S-300, "Relikt", "Bumblebee", "Bastion" and hi etc. start silently deliver ...


    Passed it already. request

    To effectively arm Assad, it is necessary to remove Hezbollah from Syria, which, under the guise of "fraternal aid" to the Syrians, is gutting Syrian military warehouses and dragging everything that is bad for its storage in Lebanon. This, of course, causes a "bombing reflex" on the part of Israel, as they say "out of harm's way."
    Hezbollah, Iran's puppet, is doing Assad a disservice. And Iran, by and large, does not give a damn about how many Syrians are dying in this war, for them "weak Assad - dependent Assad - convenient Assad", and in general for the Persians - Arabs, these are second-class people and consumables.

    While there were no hezbollahs in Syria, there were no air strikes at arms depots. It is time to separate the grain from the chaff, if Russia is interested in legitimizing the Assad government, it is necessary to separate it from relations with terrorist organizations.
    Israel, by and large, doesn’t give a damn about the Russian-USA intrigues around Syria, this is a matter of their own security.

    But for Israel, it turns out, the Arabs are not second-class people?

    Hezbollah is a puppet of Iran, and Israel is a puppet of the states. It can be denied, of course, but looking objectively, without state support, Israel would have been crushed half a century ago; without state support, there would be no nuclear weapons (and indeed modern weapons, personnel and production) there. Pay for such a large-scale support is also known with what: persistent "what you please".

    Actually, Israel could solve the problems with the Hezbollah a very long time ago, in the bud: it was not necessary to behave with the population already existing on the occupied territory like cattle. Given their own human resources in comparison with the resources of the surrounding Arab world - for the future - and completely epic dumbness.

    The conversation should not start with "before you arm Assad, you need to remove Hezbollah," but with "before Israel stutters about Hezbollah, you need to stop feeding the hatred of the Arab population with your own actions." With regard to the Russian Federation, before Russia deals with Israel, in such matters, it is not bad for Israel to crawl out from under the states first; at present Israel is never a friendly entity in relation to Russia. And what can you talk about with a dependent state?

    It will sound unpleasant, but there is nothing critical for Russia that some of the delivered weapons will go to insurgent groups like the Hezbollah acting against a cruel and unfriendly regime - no.

    By the way, if the Assad government really were as incapable as you draw (total and uncontrolled looting of military depots), it would have fallen a year ago, and certainly it would not have completed the import of allah-akbar meat.
  33. Nikich
    Nikich 16 March 2014 10: 16
    0
    Quote: AVIATOR36662
    The article practically bypasses Israel's "interest" in this protracted conflict. Of course, without Israel, as one of the most interested players in this "game", the conflict will not be resolved. Security is the main priority of the Jewish state, in this case Assad has an extra enemy. that Russia at the moment will be strongly concerned about the safety of compatriots in Ukraine (the return of Russian territories) will also not strengthen Assad's position.

    Safety, security, and no one intends to lose the Navy base