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Will the Warsaw conspiracy end in the fourth section of Poland?

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Will the Warsaw conspiracy end in the fourth section of Poland?



The logic of conspiracy spawns geopolitical complexes that tear apart the Polish elite

Warsaw is preparing to celebrate the 25 anniversary of the restoration of "independence." The ceremonial events should remind the Poles about the events of 1989, when the Polish United Workers Party ceded power to the Solidarity movement, which led to the transformation of the Republic of Polska Rzeczpospolita Ludowa into Rzeczpospolita Polska.

However, it seems that the mentality of the Polish elite (at least with regard to international politics) still has not gone beyond the limits of the Paris Hotel Lambert and conspiracy. And the main ideologue and embodiment of the current foreign policy course, Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski, is nothing but the reincarnation of General Jan Henryk Dombrowski.

Of course, the minister, unlike the general, today does not send the brave Polish young men to Haiti to die for the interests of the emperor Napoleon. But in Ukraine, Pan Sikorsky, judging by his attitude towards the Russian-speaking South-East and Crimea, would have liked to go on marches just as Dombrowski’s corps suppressed anti-French national liberation speeches in Italy.

Firstly, the logic of conspiracy implies the subordination of long-term state interests to ideological dogmas. If the facts contradict the opinion - so much the worse for the facts.

An example of this Sikorsky demonstrated recently in an interview with Der Spiegel, when he stated that “the Russian community in Crimea is not the dominant ethnic majority: in Crimea, 30% of the population are Crimean Tatars”. Meanwhile, according to the census of 2001, the population of Crimea is 2 024 056 people, of whom 58,5% Russians, 24,3% Ukrainians, 12,1% Crimean Tatars and other peoples. There have been no fundamental changes in the demography of the peninsula since then. Therefore, it is difficult to understand the mindset of the minister, who gave inaccurate figures that can be easily verified.

Secondly, the logic of conspiracy generates geopolitical complexes that tear apart the Polish elite. According to the director of the Berlin Information Center on Transatlantic Security, Otfried Nassauer, positioning itself as a European state, a full-fledged member of the Warsaw-Berlin-Paris triangle, Poland is constantly trying to emphasize its special relations with Washington. But within the country, the expert concludes, “dismissive attitude towards Russia” goes hand in hand along with the hidden fear that “the Russian bear can become strong again”.

Polish society is also tormented by the same split-off against the Germans. Warsaw, which declares foreign policy unity with Germany, at the same time exposes it to the Polish diaspora. On the eve of the visit to Poland of Chancellor Angela Merkel, Rzeczpospolita demanded “to remind the large western neighbor (and better personally at the upcoming meeting of prime ministers) that he must meet the expectations of the German Poles, that is, compensate for the damage caused to the Polish minority by the Third Reich.”

Thirdly, the logic of conspiracy provokes political mistakes, “disorder in connections”. Appealing to Washington, the Polish elite relies on the administration of Democratic President Barack Obama, then on his Republican opponents, the most reactionary wing, with which many of their party members disagree.

Obama now has a hard time because of Ukraine. What does Warsaw do? In the Hill newspaper, Undersecretary of State of the Polish Foreign Ministry Bohuslav Vinid writes, as he agrees with Senator John McCain, that "we must rally with our allies in NATO and the European Union" and punish "Russia for aggression." This is despite the fact that an influential Republican, ex-Secretary of Defense Robert Gates asked the administration of Barack Obama and members of Congress to show "special caution" when developing Western responses to events in Ukraine. Gates also called on Republican senators to "slow down the tone" of their critics and "try to support the president instead of finding fault with him."

Poland has created similar problems for itself in Ukraine. The power in Kiev was divided between two forces - "Batkivshchyna" and "Freedom". The Poles have demonstrated public support for the new regime. But let's not forget that former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko is behind the “Batkivshchyna”, and that until November 2013, inclusive, Warsaw did not take it into account. Punching the signing of the Association Agreement with the EU by all means, supporting Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych, Polish politicians have repeatedly urged Brussels to abandon the demand for the release of the former prime minister from prison. One can imagine how “grateful” Tymoshenko is for them now and how she will “thank” Warsaw if she can take power entirely into her own hands.

As a result, the famous Polish publicist, the priest Tadeusz Isaakovich-Zalessky predicts that, sooner or later, “the Nazi Tyagnibok will be brought into the Polish salons with great fanfare” so that he will appear there as a “statesman”, “European”, “true patriot” and “ Polish friend. Interview with the leader of "Freedom", which appeared the other day in Rzeczpospolita, Fr. Tadeusz regards as “the first step in preparing Polish public opinion for an alliance with the neo-Banderas who were part of the new government in Kiev”. So what to do? After all, with Tymoshenko all bridges burned.

Fourth, hence: Polish policy in the eastern direction is least of all similar to the realization of state interests in Warsaw, and more to conspiracy. But it should be remembered that conspiracy is the child of the three sections of Poland and the occupation. When the minds of current politicians, ministers, deputies and party leaders are permeated with this mentality, the question arises: is not the emergence of conspiracy in the heads of the Polish elite a precursor of something formidable - for example, the forthcoming Fourth Section? Time will tell.
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  1. sashppppp
    sashppppp 14 March 2014 16: 35
    +74
    As Hitler-Poland said, this is a geographical misunderstanding between Germany and Russia
    1. Lantau
      Lantau 14 March 2014 16: 44
      +58
      The Poles have a proverb "If you sit on the banks of the Vistula for a long time, then either the Russians or the Germans will push you into it."
      1. delfinN
        delfinN 14 March 2014 16: 53
        +47
        Churchill generally said that they were European hyenas.
        1. platitsyn70
          platitsyn70 14 March 2014 17: 13
          +30
          the Poles, as they were lackeys, remained one owner and changed to another, but there was no sense. buffoons in one word
        2. ele1285
          ele1285 14 March 2014 18: 45
          +13
          Quote: delfinN
          Churchill generally said that they were European hyenas.

          Who cares who said what about them. They are garbage.
        3. Cynic
          Cynic 14 March 2014 18: 58
          +23
          Quote: delfinN
          Hyenas of Europe.

          Whoever, and you just have to offend the animal!
          1. philip
            philip 15 March 2014 03: 34
            0
            And that's true much prettier
        4. Duke
          Duke 15 March 2014 01: 58
          0
          Churchill generally said that they were European hyenas.

          The most correct statement.
    2. Deniska999
      Deniska999 14 March 2014 17: 14
      +5
      It’s too early to divide Poland.
      1. 120352
        120352 14 March 2014 21: 58
        +4
        Monuments to leave, the rest - under the bulldozer.
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    4. Jaros81
      Jaros81 14 March 2014 17: 17
      +39
      Here the words of Molotov are more appropriate: "The ruling circles of Poland boasted a lot of the" strength "of their state and the" might "of their army. However, a short blow to Poland from the first German army and then the Red Army was enough to leave nothing of this ugly the brainchild of the Versailles Treaty, which lived off the oppression of non-Polish nationalities "
      1. siberalt
        siberalt 15 March 2014 04: 51
        0
        Ha. When our army entered Poland, it as a state no longer existed. All gentry, state power fled abroad. laughing
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    5. 120352
      120352 14 March 2014 21: 54
      +8
      You give a free translation. In fact, about Poland, he said: "Wb-l * yu: d + full-time product of the Versailles treaty."
      Perhaps they will turn me off now if the moderators of the story do not know.
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 14 March 2014 22: 00
        +6
        Quote: 120352
        Maybe they’ll disconnect me now

        I don’t see the reasons yet.
        Quote: 120352
        if the moderators do not know the story.

        no need for moderators to do slander.
        1. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 15 March 2014 04: 07
          +2
          Quote: Apollon
          I don’t see the reasons yet.

          And do it right request Hey bro drinks hi You won’t throw words out of a song, but if you look, for example, how all this is described in the programs of the same Solovyov, then on the site this program would have been banned for hell wassat
          Quote: Apollon
          no need to do moderators

          Persuaded - We won’t stop repeat
      2. Jaros81
        Jaros81 15 March 2014 10: 45
        0
        Free translation? From Russian to Russian?
    6. 52
      52 14 March 2014 22: 46
      0
      Or maybe it's enough to drive away with ugly words accomplices of the victims of the Great Victory? They are not "BAD" and not "GOOD" ... They are elementary opportunists, they live (....) as it is convenient for them ... And to reflect on the thoughts of others ... "Europeans" worth it. And all the thoughts are "Asian": "Tolli" ISKANDERS "test, toli check -" Is the T-90 really so cool? "
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    8. nnz226
      nnz226 14 March 2014 23: 46
      +2
      Molotov also called this misunderstanding as "a product of the Versailles Treaty" (he wrote a "product" so as not to be banned for the real designation of this territory by our People's Commissar Indel in September 1939)
  2. ZU-23
    ZU-23 14 March 2014 16: 37
    +28
    I want the fascist Poles to face Bandera’s foreheads, then there will be complete calm in these parts, if Brzezinski’s mouth is closed, and then they will begin to think about Russia humanly.
    1. Sergeriys
      Sergeriys 14 March 2014 17: 04
      +4
      It all starts from idleness!
      1. 120352
        120352 14 March 2014 22: 01
        +4
        But the Minister of Public Education under Nicholas I put it this way: "The benefits of philosophy are doubtful, but harm is possible."
    2. calocha
      calocha 14 March 2014 17: 30
      +3
      Do you want Bendera’s Warsaw to take ?! They’ll take ... They need to gain a critical mass .... But this cannot be allowed! It is fraught for us ...
      1. ZU-23
        ZU-23 14 March 2014 18: 25
        +5
        Quote: calocha
        Do you want Bendera to take Warsaw ?!

        Yes, not Warsaw, but that Natsik would fall on both sides.
        1. 120352
          120352 14 March 2014 22: 02
          +2
          If scientifically, so that they annihilate.
          1. Duke
            Duke 15 March 2014 02: 03
            0
            minus plus plus is 0
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    3. ele1285
      ele1285 14 March 2014 18: 48
      +4
      Quote: ZU-23
      I want the fascist Poles to face Bandera’s foreheads,

      No, well, a modest desire. Then immediately let the US fight with Europe, the same is cool.
    4. nahalenok911
      nahalenok911 14 March 2014 19: 25
      +3
      Useless! Everything human is alien to them.
      1. Ivan 63
        Ivan 63 14 March 2014 19: 34
        +4
        I agree! I did not even read the article. Churchill was right-handed jackals, they are in Africa, but already about a hundred and fifty jackals. Only it’s a pity that it seems like the Slavs.
        1. 120352
          120352 14 March 2014 22: 06
          +2
          "Kind of like", if in a scientific way, then this is "the departure of the population." This is, in particular, when puppies or piglets are culled due to a mismatch in breed parameters. Here are the Poles and do not correspond to the Slavs. It means - retreat! Rejected!
        2. homosum20
          homosum20 14 March 2014 23: 16
          +1
          Catholicism is not a nationality. In addition to religion, this is a worldview.
      2. Ivan 63
        Ivan 63 14 March 2014 19: 34
        +3
        I agree! I did not even read the article. Churchill was right-handed jackals, they are in Africa, but already about a hundred and fifty jackals. Only it’s a pity that it seems like the Slavs.
    5. Simon
      Simon 14 March 2014 21: 12
      +2
      And this will probably be, because Bandera at one time walked well in Poland, how many civilians were destroyed there during World War II.
    6. 120352
      120352 14 March 2014 21: 59
      0
      It is better to make them think they have nothing. Like breathing.
    7. 52
      52 14 March 2014 22: 53
      0
      I have half of Rodney from the Smolensk region. And there, at the word "Bandera", many are drawn to what for ... (
      more familiar ... harder ....)
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    9. stroporez
      stroporez 15 March 2014 07: 20
      0
      Quote: ZU-23
      I want the fascist Poles to face Bandera’s foreheads,
      ------ it will not work, because --- "two faces of one essence"
      I will explain - the Polish Seim refused to recognize the Volyn massacre as genocide of the Polish people ........ I think, unfortunately, there will come a time when there will be monuments to Shukhevych and Bandera near ancient Krakow and Warsaw. gentry and OUN .............
  3. svetlomor
    svetlomor 14 March 2014 16: 39
    +8
    In an interesting time we live comrades.
    1. velikoros-xnumx
      velikoros-xnumx 14 March 2014 16: 41
      +3
      Quote: svetlomor
      In an interesting time we live comrades.

      Strange however, you have interests. I would rather say in troubled.
      1. svetlomor
        svetlomor 14 March 2014 16: 47
        +3
        And when were they calm? As far as I can remember, the hydra of imperialism raises its head.
    2. sashppppp
      sashppppp 14 March 2014 16: 45
      +3
      Blessed is he who visited this world in his fateful minutes .....)
    3. sashppppp
      sashppppp 14 March 2014 16: 45
      +1
      Blessed is he who visited this world in his fateful minutes .....)
      1. delfinN
        delfinN 14 March 2014 16: 55
        +2
        Blessed is he who believes, warmth in the world ...)
        1. 120352
          120352 14 March 2014 22: 08
          0
          Which have not be avoided!
    4. nahalenok911
      nahalenok911 14 March 2014 19: 26
      +1
      As usual!
    5. philip
      philip 15 March 2014 02: 11
      0
      Also heavy
  4. pts-m
    pts-m 14 March 2014 16: 40
    +5
    Psheks after all in NATO! and in the pack it is necessary to whine as the leader tells them. Otherwise dissent! and subsequent sanctions!
    1. 120352
      120352 14 March 2014 22: 09
      0
      Staying in the EU and NATO is the worst sanction!
  5. velikoros-xnumx
    velikoros-xnumx 14 March 2014 16: 40
    +8
    upcoming Fourth Section? Time will tell.

    Then the 5th. The fourth can be considered the 1939 section between the Third Reich and the USSR of Stalin. In general, the Poles got it already with their gentry ambition and plans for Greater Poland from mozh to mozh. Fuck them on the collar. Poles do not deserve their nation as a nation, their destiny is to be under someone or at least in someone’s channel.
  6. Stiletto
    Stiletto 14 March 2014 16: 44
    +10
    Sense of Poland to consider these sections times? It’s not a virgin for a long time. Well, there - once more, once less ... Her gentlemen-comrades will share more than once ...
    1. vadson
      vadson 14 March 2014 17: 47
      +3
      as in a joke, the hedgehog says: I would know that you would ...
    2. 120352
      120352 14 March 2014 22: 10
      +2
      Stop sharing it. We must end with her.
  7. tupolev-95
    tupolev-95 14 March 2014 16: 54
    +10
    Genetics is a fundamental science. Again, the Poles are worried about their "ambition" and watching the Crimea float away from Ukraine, they secretly salivate through its western regions. The situation is very interesting - Poland, undoubtedly, helps the Maidan and will continue to actively contribute to the collapse of Ukraine with the prospect capture in one form or another of its western region. Do Bandera suppose what fate awaits them in this situation?
    1. studentmati
      studentmati 14 March 2014 22: 16
      +1
      Quote: Tupolev-95
      Genetics is a fundamental science. Again, the Poles are worried about their "ambition." Do Bandera suppose what fate awaits them in this situation?


      I involuntarily recall the disaster on April 10, 2010 in Smolensk. Mathematically, the probability of this event "tended to zero." But the event happened. So think about whom to believe: mathematicians or theologians?
      1. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 15 March 2014 04: 25
        +1
        Quote: studentmati
        Mathematically, the probability of this event "tended to zero." But the event happened. So think about whom to believe: mathematicians or theologians?

        Sicilian Mafia bully Their favorite saying is, A big dose of idiocy is deadly. fool And in that plane ....
  8. Gagarin
    Gagarin 14 March 2014 16: 56
    +8
    I want the Poles to answer as in the movie Brother-2:
    "YOU WILL ANSWER US FOR MAIDAN (Sevastopol)!"
  9. delfinN
    delfinN 14 March 2014 16: 58
    +32
    In general, of course, there is such an old Russian-German fun - to divide Poland once a hundred years.
    1. XAHAHATE
      XAHAHATE 14 March 2014 17: 07
      +5
      laughing
      Warsaw will play out ....
    2. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 14 March 2014 17: 19
      +2
      Quote: delfinN
      old Russian-German fun - once a hundred years to divide Poland

      About the XIX century in more detail, please!
      1. sspd
        sspd 14 March 2014 18: 37
        +3
        Since just after the Napoleonic Wars. The Duchy of Warsaw was eliminated, part of the territory of Prussia went to, the Kingdom of Poland was included in the Russian Empire.
    3. f.lourens
      f.lourens 14 March 2014 17: 39
      +2
      It seems to me that they will share it again and the panes, as usual, will not be asked again wassat
    4. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 14 March 2014 18: 39
      +4
      Only this time the Germans will have to fuse the Poles with everyone. They got intolerably.
      This is not a "conspiracy", it is just the Diet. That same Diet is a huge bunch of mournful nobles, one more plague than the other. This education did not grow wiser by a hair, so it carries them from one pit to another, everyone is looking for a smelly puddle. Each time Poland falls apart from this "policy", and before you have time to restore it, they are together again - a bunch of evil, inflated, senseless bumps.
      Indeed, it is time to end with this tedious task - the restoration of Poland. Enough of this stupidity for us.
      1. 52
        52 15 March 2014 00: 31
        +1
        So the great bargaining began; "And to whom Rzhach Pospolita ..."
      2. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 15 March 2014 04: 29
        +1
        Quote: Mikhail3
        Only this time it will be necessary for the Germans to bring the Poles to fuse everyone.

        Will not work -Auschwitz in Poland requestwhich means inoperative It will be necessary from Germany to guest workers on E-mobiles without windows and an exhaust pipe from the outside to import wassat
  10. Altona
    Altona 14 March 2014 17: 04
    +5
    Lviv was not a Russian city ... But Warsaw was! hi
    1. mamont5
      mamont5 14 March 2014 17: 33
      +4
      Quote: Altona
      Lviv was not a Russian city ... But Warsaw was! hi

      How is it that Lviv was not a Russian city? It was founded by the Russian prince Daniil Galitsky and named after his son Leo. (You can watch the Soviet film "Daniil Galitsky", where his struggle with the Tatar-Mongols and the founding of this city is very colorfully shown.)
      True, in this struggle, Daniel sought allies everywhere and even turned to the Vatican for help in order to organize a crusade against the Tatar-Mongols. And he took the royal crown from the hands of the papal envoy, but never received real help from them.
      1. Bober
        Bober 14 March 2014 18: 54
        +7
        Comrade Alton apparently mentioned the conversation between Churchill and Stalin on the post-war division of territories. - What would you like to receive, Churchill asked. Stalin said, “We don’t need someone else.” We just would like to get back what was within the borders of the empire. And we would like to get Lviv. To which Churchill indignantly replied that Lvov had never been within the borders of the empire, to which Stalin replied briefly - But Warsaw was. The conversation was over.
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    2. 120352
      120352 14 March 2014 22: 13
      0
      Both Lviv and Paris were Russian cities.
  11. Energy
    Energy 14 March 2014 17: 04
    +13
    "The German national biathlon team at the European Championship conquered Poland" bully
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 14 March 2014 17: 38
      +8
      Quote: Energetic
      "The German national biathlon team at the European Championship conquered Poland" bully

      Biathlon, what is usual, or as always - tank?
      1. ittr
        ittr 15 March 2014 00: 37
        0
        Paralympic
  12. konvalval
    konvalval 14 March 2014 17: 09
    +5
    Official Poland’s hatred of Russia drove ordinary Poles into a corner. They are also slurping European tolerance and freedom.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 14 March 2014 17: 33
      +9
      Quote: konvalval
      Official Poland’s hatred of Russia drove ordinary Poles into a corner. They are also slurping European tolerance and freedom.

      1986 to 1990 served in the SGV (Šprotava, Kolobrzeg). My opinion: simple Poles, as long as they have bigus and vudka on their table, have a church in place, a beer in a kavyarna freshest = they are deeply in ..., especially those who are now over 50. But the young ladies of Geyrop are even nicer. Juzek Pilsudski (Litvin himself, by the way, is not a pyast) tailored the "miscarriage of Versailles" into a living thread from the German-Austrian (Germanized) lands with a solid farrower of White Russia. Where will the state traditions that were lost in the 18th century come from? Modern panty is a reflection (in a distorting mirror) of Banderaism.
    2. 120352
      120352 14 March 2014 22: 15
      0
      It seems that now is their main food.
  13. Coffee_time
    Coffee_time 14 March 2014 17: 21
    +4
    And in general, the Psheks worked for us, they are still loafers, just to get money and not work. After their work, I hate them with all the fibers, it’s not in vain that they are treated as migrant workers in Europe, they are incapable of more
    1. 120352
      120352 14 March 2014 22: 18
      +1
      Coffee_time
      Or maybe the Poles and Tajiks are one people?
  14. delfinN
    delfinN 14 March 2014 17: 24
    +13
    Found in the vast:
    Interestingly, after the death of Sigismund II Augustus in 1572, the Poles chose
    of four candidates, the king, one of whom was Tsar Ivan IV the Terrible
    (which by that time had already canceled the “oprichnina”), but the Poles chose
    Prince of Anjou Heinrich Valois, one of the initiators of the massacre
    Huguenots - Bartholomew’s night. However, Henry, after 9 months, as
    only the first opportunity appeared to occupy the French throne, secretly
    he fled from Poland, desperately pursued by the pursuit of his Polish subjects.
    The court poet PHILIPP DEPORT, who was in the retinue of Heinrich Valois, dedicated
    wonderful poems for this event:

    FAREWELL TO POLAND

    Goodbye, O Poland, the land of deserted plains,
    Sleeping soundly under ice and snow!
    I say goodbye to you forever:
    Your air, morals - it all hurt me so much
    What to return unless by force
    Something will make me here.

    Farewell to you, weird mansions
    Chicken huts with a straw roof,
    Inside which people and cattle
    Found a shelter - one big family, -
    Golden age delights tasting,
    Filled with wild simplicity.

    All that I spent about you before
    About your little towns, about clothes,
    About the stupidity of your favorite pastimes,
    Sarmatians, could I believe that
    And could I measure your drunkenness,
    Without having seen it firsthand?

    Oh barbaric people, empty, puffy,
    Arrogant, windy, chatty,
    Only in words do you show agility
    But end only with drunk snoring
    His martial arts with a glass
    And Mars, meanwhile, you want to pass for!

    Not long furrowed peaks,
    Not wolf skins, not weapons wild
    Set, not the feathers of a helmet and shield,
    Not your awesome faces
    Poles, yours protect the borders, -
    Only poverty saves you!

    Be better, more fertile,
    Be your rivers deeper, more navigable,
    Be more cities in the country
    Be mine, wine, more goods,
    What is your miserable Poland now -
    You would be conquered long ago!

    And the Ottoman soldier soul and body,
    Your deserts are completely icy
    Prefers Kandia il Crete;
    And a German that war will always seek
    Despising you, fighting in Flanders,
    Where he will reward himself generously.

    Only Henry the Great to please
    Which the human race
    Sent like a beautiful star
    I lived in Poland and, with France apart,
    All nine months suffered from boredom,
    Comfort did not see a trace.

    God grant that this sovereign is worthy
    He owned another province calmly,
    Where there are wealth, people, cities,
    So that he would establish himself on the throne
    So that I’m never here
    At least my heart was breaking here!

    Translation by IVAN ALEKSEEVICH LIKHACHEV
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 14 March 2014 19: 07
      +2
      Quote: delfinN
      However, Henry, after 9 months, as
      only the first opportunity appeared to occupy the French throne, secretly
      he fled from Poland, desperately pursued by the pursuit of his Polish subjects.

      Yes, if he just ran away, no one would have chased him. But he still took with him the treasury of the Polish kingdom. Naturally, this time they’ll chase, and if they had caught up, it would not have seemed.
    2. balyaba
      balyaba 14 March 2014 20: 28
      +2
      Quite right, on the Polish side, by the way, there was a condition: the candidate for the throne was supposed to marry their princess - the old maiden. Henry fulfilled this condition. So, when he fled to France, he threw not only Poland, but also his wife, apparently already pretty fed up
    3. 120352
      120352 14 March 2014 22: 24
      +1
      Thanks Dolphin!
  15. Zheleznyak
    Zheleznyak 14 March 2014 17: 27
    +3
    This very "affairs of Poland Radoslaw Sikorski" always speaks in English, the latter was in contrast in Kiev, the German minister spoke German, and the Pole spoke English.
    Look online who his wife is and what books she writes about us.
    The stupidity and worthlessness of these people, among other things, is caused by one reason - people who are forced to communicate daily in English undergo something like lobotomy in the language
    Switching to an English-based operating system is akin to a lobotomy.
    I believe that it is lobotomy in English that is the greatest danger to civilization today.
    The damaging perception of being is predetermined by the properties of this language, syntax and morphology.
    Today, the situation in the world has developed like this (not least because of people who have undergone lobotomy in the same Sikorsky language) that our opponents behave like psychopaths intoxicated by megalomania.
    A psychopath intoxicated by megalomania is a special case of an infantile personality. I watched Sikorsky’s speech, it is a confirmation of this - there are all signs of infantilism.
    The world of these people is extremely unstable, from the experience of wars it is known that teenage soldiers are particularly cruel, apparently due to the undeveloped, meager inner world.
    There is a way out - in dealing with English speakers, the knowledge accumulated in child psychiatry should be taken into account.
    I hope the Poles read my comment and replace this person - this is a shame.
    1. 17085
      17085 14 March 2014 18: 05
      +3
      I will ask you to be more careful in your generalizations. By the will of fate, many of those who surround me and are forced to work abroad of our Motherland communicate in English. EVERYONE, without exaggeration, I would call the people's ambassadors defending and illuminating the Russian point of view here ... IN ENGLISH.
      1. Walk
        Walk 14 March 2014 18: 25
        +2
        Most likely Zheleznyak had in mind those who were born in English. Still, English is much poorer than Russian, and many other languages. And you, apparently, learned to think in Russian.
        1. Zheleznyak
          Zheleznyak 14 March 2014 19: 04
          +3
          "Zheleznyak meant those who were born in English" - unfortunately, this is not entirely true.
          Everything is more complicated: knowledge of a foreign language makes life more interesting and richer, in terms of potential for development and results.
          But education in English-language educational institutions, relying on their experience - can be dangerous as
          for the individual, and for the culture that he represents.
          It so happened that the world is trying to live (who voluntarily, who not) according to the patterns of Anglo-Saxon culture, English, as it were, the language of interethnic communication - which has serious negative consequences.
          Anglo-Saxons, very likely not even consciously, are trying to solve an unsolved problem, to spread
          the influence of one’s culture on other cultures / ethnic groups *.
          They do not know, or do not want to know, that there is an interconnection between language, the formation and practice of a worldview, the syntax of a language is the syntax of a worldview.
          Moreover, the Anglo-Saxon subculture itself has all the signs of degeneration.
          Here are some arguments separately due to comment size limitations:
          1. Zheleznyak
            Zheleznyak 14 March 2014 19: 14
            +2
            arguments:
            The empty eyes of the Anglo-Saxon (whoever dealt with them knows what they are talking about), inscriptions like "hot you can burn yourself", "sharp ones can get hurt2 ... this is just the tip of the iceberg of degradation of the subculture.
            Degradation, in which superficiality, is taken for some form of efficiency, which (superficiality), through the semantic construction of linguistics, is the basis of all the bearing (forming) systems (finance, justice, art ...) of this subculture.
            Their propaganda is based on the thesis of the struggle for "freedom", but slaves, in this case the slaves of the English language, are fighting for freedom. Because here the spirit, squeezed into the framework of a simple language, where the form determines the containing, is limited in the perception of the diversity of the world.
            For comparison, the reasonable raise the question of the availability of social justice in the framework of the competition inherent in man by nature.
            We are without a doubt one of the most rational (reasonable not reasonable, not to be confused with a couple of good - bad) peoples on earth - our language has infinity (there are arguments).
            When we formulate information, it conveys itself, the attitude towards it, which in turn is also ambiguous. The decision with us is always a matter of choice. We do not make exclusive decisions, our chance.
            In Anglo-Saxons, when formulating / transmitting (working with information), the coverage of associative relations is difficult due to the rigid construction of the syntax.
            The result is an almost complete absence of reflection; when making a decision, efficiency absolutely prevails over reflection.
            There are opinions in anthropology that reflection is one of the fundamental differences between man and animal.
            It can reasonably be argued that we can never live according to the patterns of the Anglo-Saxon subculture - this is impossible.
            Let’s try - this will lead to mass psychosis, which we now observe in part of the population in Ukraine, and in Russia as well.
            1. Zheleznyak
              Zheleznyak 14 March 2014 19: 17
              +1
              positive outlook:
              What to do, how to develop the world further?
              In connection with the foregoing, it is obvious that, in view of the relative simplicity of the English language **, the impact of the subculture on which it lies, on cultures based on synthesizing languages, is very limited.
              The impact of the subculture, the basis of which is English, the necessary condition for the success of the implementation of its projects ends and disappears - in the absence of native speakers of this language.
              For secondary carriers, it is enough to explain the pernicious use of English for personal life - this is degradation.
              Summarized - the use of the language of the Anglo-Saxon subculture as a secondary carrier for the development of almost any projects and movements will bring the same result - failure and degradation (for example, relevant - the consequences in Africa).

              Of course, one must also consciously work with children, it is enough for schools to simply point out to the children the interconnection of language, formation and practice of worldview.
              Encourage them to think, unless someone agrees to degrade consciously.
      2. Zheleznyak
        Zheleznyak 14 March 2014 18: 49
        +2
        I ask you to be more careful in your generalizations. By the will of fate, many of those who surround me and are forced to work abroad of our Motherland communicate in English. "This is wonderful. I ask you, in turn, to convey this text to as many diplomats as possible:

        Elementary things

        Linguistic corruption

        All official negotiations in commissions, councils .... it is vitally necessary to conduct in Russian through translators, the Russian language itself already has a huge impact, even the look of our letters reduces their self-confidence.
        Speaking in English, the negotiator shows his submission. This is not a trifle - it is the essence of relations between nations.
        It has always been so, and nothing can change human nature. Because the basis of any culture is language, and the syntax of a language is the syntax of a worldview.
        This common has important features.
        As a consequence of the properties of the language, this primarily concerns cultures, the basis of which is the language derivatives of the Vulgar Latin, which historically originate from the plunder and destruction of Rome by barbarians.
        The mixing of multilingual tribes led to vulgarization, simplification of the language. It is natural to assume that in relation to some aspects of social competence, the carrier has also been simplified.
        The most dangerous thing is that these languages ​​are characterized by short-term effectiveness, the effectiveness of the fuss of robbery.
        These include English, which was simplified a second time during the plunder of the territory of the modern kingdom by multilingual tribes.
        And so, by negotiating in English, we will refuse it in our world, and move on to a world where efficiency absolutely prevails over reflection.
        The surface in solving geopolitical issues cannot become the basis of long-term stable states.
        Speaking in Russian through an interpreter, you can make your opponent think and doubt, they will even be annoyed that we are so "stupid" ... but we will achieve our goal. There is no other way, we will not be able to compete with them and achieve success in their language, among other things - this is degradation.
        The time has come when it is necessary to voice in one form or another the idea that the world would develop further, we should abandon the English language as the language of international organizations. In order to eliminate linguistic corruption, - the language of the UN can become, for example, Latin.
        The UN is harmful to the effectiveness of robbery; the representation and interaction of cultures through languages ​​should be organized.
        Specifically, the recognition of all European courts, commissions, organizations ... where the working language is English / French, should be immediately suspended, and their reform should be carried out - which means all courts in the original language of the defendant and all through translators.
        Hard, boring? - No, humanly - stress is one of the main components of the development phenomenon.
        The grander the task - the more sense it is to take on, only during hard work does a person, ethnos, humanity develop.
        As for your "many of those who surround me and are forced to work abroad of our Motherland" I wish them success and I hope the information will be useful to them. Knowledge is power.
        The following is shared:
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      4. Zheleznyak
        Zheleznyak 14 March 2014 18: 54
        +2
        total:
        The propaganda of the Anglo-Saxon subculture is built on the thesis of the struggle for "freedom", but slaves, in this case the slaves of the English language, are fighting for freedom. Because here the spirit, squeezed into the framework of a too simple language, where the form determines the containing, is limited in the perception of the diversity of the world.
        For comparison, the reasonable raise the question of the availability of social justice in the framework of the competition inherent in man by nature.
        This is a serious international problem, all these commissions, committees, courts ... where they speak and judge in English ... there is no justice there, this is a court, as it is in the kingdom, where in court (slave) you must surrender to the mercy of the judge.

        And so the slaves are trying to get freedom, the rational, they want to achieve justice.
        Hence, our cultures have completely different driving forces, the dialectics of development.
        We must remember this and not let them into our house with their slave freedom.
        You should immediately end this whole booth with European courts, commissions, organizations ... until they begin to speak Russian.
        If necessary, they will return to the old means of trust - military missions, we have them, we have them, as was the case in the GDR, for example. This is the only compromise - the descendants of the barbarians understand only power.
      5. kare
        kare 14 March 2014 19: 04
        +3
        Pathologically I will not make Anglo-Saxons, and their language. The more they died in due time, the fewer there would be maidans. Anglo-Saxons are the breeder of all world shit. am
        Look at the streets of their cities. Do they not look like the conquered cities, where the name of every second store, in damned English. am
        Our schools are trying not to learn the Russian language, but like mad macaques cling to English am
        am am am
        And the fact that you allegedly carry Russian culture to the Western masses, so we can’t check it. And the flag on your avatar speaks for itself
  16. DS14
    DS14 14 March 2014 17: 30
    +5
    Poles are real idiots. Such an adventure will cost them dearly. And not even from Russia. As compensation for the lands of Western Ukraine, Western Belarus and Lithuania, which departed to the USSR in 1939, at the Yalta Conference of 1945 they received 2/3 of East Prussia from the USSR (the remaining 1/3 is the current Kaliningrad region) and the lands of northeast Germany As a result, Berlin became almost a border city, and the Poles became the owners of the entire German Baltic coast! For the Poles, this acquisition was much more profitable than the lost forests. The Germans, of course, in the case of the division app. Ukraine, will win back from the Poles their own, at least partially. Maybe they are under this topic and pushed the Poles? In this case, at a certain moment, Germany may become an ally of Russia - with variations of the development of events that go far beyond the horizon ...
    1. Walk
      Walk 14 March 2014 18: 26
      +3
      Rather, we will not give up our own, and the Germans will try to return
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  17. EvilLion
    EvilLion 14 March 2014 17: 31
    +3
    Who needs it, this Poland? Feed her again? Well nafig, to fight, so on the destruction.
  18. Tektor
    Tektor 14 March 2014 17: 32
    +1
    And when is there another election in Poland? Shouldn't a referendum be timed?
  19. parus2nik
    parus2nik 14 March 2014 17: 34
    +3
    wink Poland, for Ukraine, cares, but they themselves probably itch their hands, like chopping off Western Ukraine, they don’t really need it, but from the principle ... here they are conspiring .. As it’s bad for the neighbors, they’re right there .. enjoy the carrion ... what to take from a hyena ..
  20. delfinN
    delfinN 14 March 2014 17: 34
    +9
    A Polish joke found:
    The teacher asks to talk about pets. Asks Yasya
    “Yas, can you have a dog?”
    - Yes, we had a dog, but we euthanized it, because I don’t eat meat, Dad doesn’t eat, mom either, and buying one for the sake of one dog is not reasonable.
    - Horrible! Well, maybe there is a cat?
    - Yes, we had a cat, but we euthanized it, because I don’t drink milk, Dad doesn’t drink, mom does too, and buying one for the sake of one cat is not reasonable.
    “If you say such a thing, bring your mom tomorrow.”
    - Yes, we had a mother, but we got rid of her, because I still do not fuck, Dad can no longer, and keep her for the sake of a neighbor ....
  21. Stinger
    Stinger 14 March 2014 17: 34
    +1
    It became difficult to understand the word "independence". And in the case of Poland, this is not possible at all. It turns out some kind of independent dependence.
  22. mamont5
    mamont5 14 March 2014 17: 39
    +3
    By the way, Ukrainians would not be bad to look at the historical example of Poland. During the election of their kings, they received so much personal (gentry) freedom, so many personal rights gained that any nobleman could communicate with foreign states and even declare war. That's just their duties they threw up and even the main duty - to fight for the fatherland, which led to disaster and, ultimately, to the division of the state.
  23. aleksruschel
    aleksruschel 14 March 2014 17: 40
    +1
    Let's not chop off a piece drinks
  24. Russophile
    Russophile 14 March 2014 17: 49
    +3
    Their history does not teach anything. Czechoslovakia was shared with Hitler; they themselves fell under the distribution. Now it’s numb, the result will be the same ...
  25. 52
    52 14 March 2014 17: 59
    +4
    Polish independence! Cool - only: Cuban punctuality, British disinterest, Swiss looseness, Tahitian aggressiveness. "He looks at Polish like a poster" Goat "in a stupid police elephantiasis - from where, and, they say, what kind of geographic news?"
  26. konvalval
    konvalval 14 March 2014 18: 00
    +1
    Quote: 11111mail.ru
    But the young panama geyropa even nicer.

    I don’t argue, but I read that the Polish athletes undressed in order to earn money for the Olympics. I think the young panamas need to know this.
  27. delfinN
    delfinN 14 March 2014 18: 03
    +4
    After Poland joined NATO, interest in the armed forces of this country became the lot of not only narrow specialists, but also the broad masses.

    Air Force

    Since 2000, the main unit of fighter aviation has been the Ghoul, which surpasses absolutely all foreign counterparts in its maneuverability - the machine develops a speed of up to 80 km / h and is capable of performing not only such aerobatics as Cobra and Bell, but and hover motionlessly in the air with the tail unit up ("Radish"). This is ensured by the presence of 16 burner-type motors with multidirectional nozzles. The design disadvantages include high fuel consumption, which reduces the flight range to 30 km (35 km for the Vurdalak-2 modification with a one-wheeled chassis). To reduce the flight weight, the armament is accordingly lightened - a twin Makarov pistol in the bow.
    The Slow Death bomber is more economical, and at a maximum speed of 30 km / h it is able to circumnavigate the earth four times along the equator without refueling. The main armament: air-ground-air-ground missiles and firecrackers with an offset center of gravity.
    Among other newest developments of Polish aircraft designers, it is worth mentioning Armageddon armored balloons for inflicting mental trauma on the enemy, and Scaffold radio-controlled reconnaissance aircraft with a built-in lie detector.
  28. delfinN
    delfinN 14 March 2014 18: 04
    +5
    Infantry armament

    The AKMs familiar to the Poles are being replaced by the automatic assault rifles "Maniac" developed for the NATO standard with a rate of fire of 6000 rounds per minute and a magazine for 6 rounds (four more are loaded directly into the muzzle). The base model is equipped with a laser sight with the ability to play CDs. The combat characteristics of the Lucifer over-barrel grenade launcher remain somewhat doubtful, the charge to which has a radius of damage of 400 meters with a shot range of 100 meters. But the advantages of the octahedral bayonet-knife "Chikatilo" and the rope-lasso "Python" are indisputable, the wide use of which is hindered only by their weight - 9 kg and 35 kg, respectively.

    Conclusion

    The scope of this article does not allow to highlight the achievements of Polish gunsmiths in such areas as underwater aviation and military space forces (just now the launch of the "End of All" tracking and deterrent satellite is being prepared), as well as research in the field of chemical and bacteriological weapons - which just create a cat-sized virus! However, we will continue to follow this burning topic.

    http://live4fun.ru/joke/202883
    1. 52
      52 14 March 2014 18: 24
      +1
      The author is not aware of the use of the modernized version of the rope-lasso "Python in the most immature unit of the squadron of mounted divers-demolitionists! The Diet is delighted, and the thieves tremble with fear and envy! And the weight was reduced to an acceptable 34,89kg."
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  29. Sergey Sitnikov
    Sergey Sitnikov 14 March 2014 18: 12
    +1
    I am aware of the homophobic nature of my post, but I say what I think - there are several nations whose total destruction, I do not consider genocide, the Poles are in FIRST place !!!
    1. Alexey Prikazchikov
      Alexey Prikazchikov 14 March 2014 20: 06
      -1
      Turks in the second, and Arabs in the third.
      1. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 15 March 2014 04: 39
        +1
        Quote: Sergey Sitnikov
        there are several nations whose total destruction, I do not think is genocide, the Poles are in FIRST place there !!!

        Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov
        Turks in the second, and Arabs in the third.

        Unfortunately, clinical idiocy is a medical diagnosis and not an article in the criminal code fool Are you missing the skulls? There is nothing to shake the coming dream?
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  30. made13
    made13 14 March 2014 18: 16
    +3
    The Poles seek to capture Bandera in order to burn them, as once Banderlog destroyed the Poles. It’s just easier to do it on your territory.
  31. Fedor
    Fedor 14 March 2014 18: 18
    +3
    Is the emergence of conspiracy in the heads of the Polish elite a harbinger of something formidable - for example, the upcoming Fourth Section? Time will tell.


    Indeed time will tell. Over time, hands will reach Poland, but first to the Baltic Limitrophs.
  32. wot
    wot 14 March 2014 18: 38
    +2
    Yes, everything, as always, Poland, like Ukraine, tries to sit on two cuttings, such as the affectionate two sosse
  33. Grif
    Grif 14 March 2014 18: 56
    +1
    Remember "Poems about the Soviet Passport"? They look at Polish like a goat on a poster. Polish eyes bulge in tight police elephantiness. Where, they say, and what kind of geographic news?
  34. Kyrgyz
    Kyrgyz 14 March 2014 19: 01
    +2
    Poland is now a completely economically dependent object, the Polish authorities are overseers and scenery, what difference does it make that they say they are pawns, we cannot participate in the partition of Poland, there are no resources, there are no grounds, and it is simply unnecessary, we are too different. So this time the prize goes to the Germans, although it has already left.
  35. 222222
    222222 14 March 2014 19: 19
    +2
    inscriptions :: RUSSIA WANTS WAR ... "Look how they are closed in their country by our military bases"
  36. fregina1
    fregina1 14 March 2014 19: 36
    +1
    I think you need to lead a beautiful game:
    1. Partition of Ukraine into "Galicia" - they are being re-educated as part of Poland, and in 20 years there will be no Zapadentsev, Ukraine itself, and Novorossia as part of Russia! We are negotiating this with Poland !!! Under the guise of giving Zhitomir to Belarus!
    2. We also advocate the entry of the originally Polish Vilnius into Poland!
    3. In the underestimated strengthening of Poland, Germany, we are warming up the return of land in western Poland!
    4. We help the Scottish "comrades" in secession from Great Britain!
    5. Under sanctions against us from the EU sorons, we are helping a nerd in the Middle East with the closure of Hormuz! and admire the Euro prices for oil!
    And I forgot, we ask China to simply state that they are ready, in case of sanctions, to take away all our gas limits! but we type say we're always ready! ... and to hell with them while the flows of North and South, see another Europe
  37. delfinN
    delfinN 14 March 2014 19: 54
    +2
    Quote: Walk
    Rather, we will not give up our own, and the Germans will try to return
  38. Alexey Prikazchikov
    Alexey Prikazchikov 14 March 2014 20: 07
    0
    If the next time you take Poland, then there must be a brutal Russification.
  39. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
    Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 14 March 2014 20: 18
    0
    Poland acts like in that fable "Oh, pug, she is strong, barks at an elephant!"
  40. unknown
    unknown 14 March 2014 21: 27
    0
    Poland is an artificial state.
    Her story is fake. Initially, this territory was part of the Moravian state with the capital in Prague. The so-called nobility - "gentry" - from robbers. The gentry is the big road.
    A gang of bandits consisting of relatives. At that time, robbers who fell into the hands of justice often had their tongues shortened. Therefore, in the so-called Polish language there are many hissing and whistling sounds.
    In the so-called because the Poles have a minimal relationship to the so-called Roche (Sich) of the Commonwealth. Historical Poland is Small and Red Russia (the Black Sea is actually the Red Sea, that is, the Red), and historical Lithuania is White Russia, and not Zhmudia, who appropriated the history of White Russia
    Poles-robbers rose after the Great Time of Troubles, during which the Rurikovich dynasty was replaced by a railway r (railway station) heresy-merchant, pun-word the body of an animal). Muscovy of the Romanovs, a splinter of Great Tarhtaria. New Poland, a splinter of the Moravian state that died during the Jewish (European) unrest, ended with a grand thirty-year war completely redrawing the political map of Jews (Europe, from a Jewish migrant).
    The Troubles that tolerant Yereya modestly calls the Reformation.
    And that war, which is called useless.
  41. Arkan
    Arkan 14 March 2014 21: 35
    +1
    Everything can be, everything can be .....

    A state pursuing a split policy in relation to its neighbors is very at risk of cracking itself. Sikorsky does not remember the Lviv massacre, those with whom he flirts, remember. History has taught the Polish gentry nothing.
  42. kind
    kind 15 March 2014 07: 20
    +2
    T.G. Shevchenko has always been Russian.
  43. Mikuduk
    Mikuduk 15 March 2014 08: 38
    -1
    Quote: 222222
    inscriptions :: RUSSIA WANTS WAR ... "Look how they are closed in their country by our military bases"

    Where does the NATO base come from in Kazakhstan?
  44. morpogr
    morpogr 15 March 2014 11: 52
    0
    The Pole is a diagnosis and, as time has shown, it is difficult to treat.