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"The Legend of the Shubohranilishche" as a reason for the abolition of Russia. How and for whom manipulations work

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Recently, the head of the Russian Railways, Vladimir Yakunin, speaking at the Presidium of the Russian Academy of Sciences, proposed to implement a large-scale project - the Trans-Eurasian Belt of Development (TEPR). In addition to new cities, factories, highways, we are talking about the new positioning of Russia in the world - as a link between Europe and Asia - something that has been talked about for a long time, but so far it has not been implemented. However, the liberal public already accepted Yakunin’s offer with hostility.


New plan GOELRO

The TEPR mega-project involves the construction of new transport arteries in our country, connecting its most remote corners. This, in turn, should not only create the necessary impetus for the revival of the Russian economy, but also mark the country's new place in the world - a link between parts of the world. Actually, in terms of geography, we are supposed to act as such; we lack only a decisive breakthrough in this direction, the idea of ​​which has been submitted for discussion.

The TEPR project was initiated by Mikhail Baidakov, Advisor to the President of Russian Railways, and Yury Gromyko, Director of the E. L. Schiffers Institute for Advanced Studies. Yakunin presented him to the academicians who supported the idea.

“I am convinced that we must support the project,” said President of the Russian Academy of Sciences Vladimir Fortov. - The implementation of this project is impossible without reliance on science. The number of practical problems arising from this is amazing. This will load those institutions that today work beyond the Urals, and I am sure that this will develop. ”

Yevgeny Primakov supported the idea, noting that today it is vital for us to look for new ways of economic development, and one of the key points is the development of the Trans-Siberian and Baikal-Amur Highways.

Yakunin focuses on the fact that we are talking about something more than simple commerce, because the West imposes on Russia alien values ​​- the development of the economy for the sake of increasing quantitative indicators. At the same time, according to him, acting within the framework of imposed models, Russia is losing the spiritual and moral platform, as well as its inherent values ​​and benchmarks. The country needs to rethink its role in the global space and become an “integrator on the Eurasian continent”:

“The idea that Russia can and should become an integrator on the Eurasian continent was put forward long ago. This is an alternative to the situation of “apple of discord” - when Russia is not between Europe and Asia, but unites civilizational communities. This is the idea of ​​Russia as a civilization center. ”

According to Yakunin, Russia throughout its stories Constantly implemented large-scale mega-projects, for example, the adoption of Christianity in Russia, the conquest of Siberia, the GOELRO plan, the space programs of the USSR, and the Olympics in Sochi. According to him, such projects determine the country's position on the world stage, and Russia needs to implement ambitious plans of such magnitude:

"This kind of project, the plan of the GOELRO 21 century, is the project of the Trans-Eurasian development belt."

We add that a project of such a scale is also needed as far as it helps to consolidate our society (to return clear guidelines and goals to it), to launch the long-awaited re-industrialization (can you imagine how much steel, concrete and workers you need?) And become the engine of Eurasian integration (which today is not so enough project of this kind). All this is obvious to our readers and does not need additional explanations. However, the liberal public is strongly opposed and its motives deserve a separate discussion.

The legend of the fur depository as an argument for the abolition of re-industrialization

The leader of alternative-minded Internet users Navalny, who is now under house arrest, set the tone for discourse:

“This is a damn human. I love that. Someone has an indestructible love of life, and he has an indestructible, irresistible, and even (not afraid of this word) admiring love of babla. Hallmarks have nowhere to put on it. Thief from thieves. He runs a state-owned company and, at the same time, openly lives the life of some Arab sheikh. He built an estate with a fur depository and artificial ponds ”.

The initiative was supported by regular readers of the Echo of Moscow website:

“But these arguments of the most important Putin's henchman about the special way of Russia's development and the foreignness of Western values, along with military preparations and territorial expansion, speak of one thing - the iron curtain will soon fall";

«That would be more terrible than nuclear war. This is what is coming really and irrevocably. If "Bandera" will not save ".

"The logic of the Bolshevik bastards! Russia - held exclusively as the Western Project of the Romanovs! The future of the Russian Federation is just like that of a Western and European country, the Bolshevik concentration camp has no future! ”

And so on.

No matter how I looked for, it was not possible to find at least something similar to constructive criticism of the proposal on liberal resources. Thus, indignation is reduced to dissatisfaction with the personality of Yakunin and the endless chewing of a tale about the “fur-store”.

You know, I am far from considering all adherents of liberal thought to be idiots or people incapable of elementary analysis. Surely there are sensible ones among them, but for some reason they are cleverly hiding and do not write comments on the forums. The rest do not know that they fall for the usual wiring. Judge for yourself.

If Yakunin Navalny, who started the persecution, were really honest and worried about the fate of the country, he would write something like this:

“Guys, the TEPR project deserves at least more attention. Perhaps there are sound thoughts in it and they should be disassembled. However, I absolutely do not like that Yakunin represents him. I consider him a crook and is ready to prove it in court, having all the facts in my hands. But in this case, let's digress from his personality and turn to the essence of the proposal. When it comes to the fate of the country, do not be distracted by personalities. We should closely monitor the development of the project and together consider how to prevent possible theft during its implementation. I am personally confident that Yakunin cannot be allowed to her, and I will prove it. ”

However, the function of Navalny does not include taking care of the fate of the country - his task is to direct the opinion of the public subject to him in the right direction, to dazzle her with emotions, blocking any mental work. Similarly, it was quite recently, when this public enthusiastically poured on the project of the Olympic construction. However, the success of the event did not sober her up and did not shame it - they only switch to a new object for hatred.

In fact, everything is ridiculously simple - and the reason for the manipulation lies on the surface in this, the most criticized phrase of Yakunin:

“It is difficult to talk about cost estimates, it is obvious that this is the cost in trillions - and not our rubles. But the result will be of ordinal frequency. "

A reasonable person has a legitimate question about the source of funding and the answer itself is from the National Wealth Fund and the Reserve Fund of Russia. Which, as we know, are located mainly in the West. Moreover, looking at the reports of the Ministry of Finance, we will see that all our reserves, obviously, will not be enough for such a project. This means we will need to attract partners. The most obvious such partner is China, which, in turn, also holds the lion’s share of reserves in the West. No wonder the joke goes that Barack Obama almost shies away from Chairman Xi Jinping, avoiding the meeting in every way and fearing that he will demand that he return the debt to 1,3 trillion dollars.

Now - attention questions:

- Is the West afraid that Russia will withdraw its capital and direct it to its own development projects?

- Is the West afraid that China and other countries will follow Russia's example?

- Does the West really need Russia to become a central link in its dialogue with the East?

- Does the West need a re-industrialization in our country - new enterprises were opened, new cities and villages were built, the economy came to life, getting rid of the dollar?

- Does the West need our country to become the center of attraction for the former Soviet republics and not only through such a project?

- Does the West need our people to feel again the strength to create, not to degrade, and unite in movement towards a common goal?

However, all these questions fall out of sight of the blinded Legend of the Shubohranilishche. And they narrow this field of vision consciously, using the ancient manipulation, playing on the emotions of the crowd.

However, this manipulation is rather weak and acts only on the very very malleable public. And its use in itself speaks of the most severe crisis of the genre of manipulators.

So these are now times.
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  1. Russ69
    Russ69 14 March 2014 13: 34
    +40
    I cry ... laughing

    The inscriptions on the poster top-down:
    He guards the borders of his country; he protects his citizens abroad; he banned gay propaganda in schools;
    he pursues financial criminals; he imprisons those who blaspheme in churches;
    he puts the interests of the country above his own.
    Putin to the President!


    Kevin Barrett, March 11.03.2014, XNUMX

    Fed up with corruption at the state level, deceitful, fruitless leadership, a group of Americans appealed to join the Russian Federation.
    “We are collecting signatures for a referendum on whether to remain a bankrupt state - a country with a ruined economy under criminal oligarchs - or to join the Russian Federation under the authority of the president with the experience of successfully breaking off the horns of oligarchs,” says Bill Blatsky, head of the committee “Join Russia - Putin’s presidency. ”
    Supporters of the referendum point out that the United States has deep historical ties with Russia. “Almost 20% of the United States is Alaska, which was historically Russian territory,” Blatsky explains. “Even today, Sarah Palin, looking out of her window across the Bering Strait, can see the sparkling lights of Vladivostok and a country where such an ignorant redneck like her would not have a chance to be elected to the lowest office. at least the visibility of the education system. "
    The Putin Presidential Movement draws attention to the fact that the west coast north of San Francisco, America’s coolest place, can also be considered the historical part of Russia. “This is not just Alaska,” Blatsky explains. “There is a reason why the largest world leader in marijuana production, Humboldt County, California, is named after the Russian explorer and hemp expert Alexander von Humoldt, who set the Russian flag on these shores, but who forgot about this due to short-term memory loss. Unfortunately, I can’t remember for what reason. And let's not forget that the Bohemian Grove, where the criminal oligarchs of America gather annually to develop plans for their robberies, is located on the banks of the Russkaya River. Wouldn't it be nice for Putin to send an armadillo up the river and arrest all these guys?
    Opponents argue that a referendum on joining Russia will be unconstitutional. Supporters respond that everything the US government did after 9 / 11, and most of what it did before, is also unconstitutional, but nobody cares.
    If it is not possible to hold a national referendum on joining Russia, supporters of the idea have a backup option: nominating Vladimir Putin as a candidate for the presidency of the United States of America. Blatsky praises Putin’s chances: “If you put Putin against these six candidates from the main parties - Barack Obama, Mitt Romney, John McCain, John Kerry, Al Gore and George W. Bush - he will gain more votes than all these candidates combined ".
    Proponents of the Russian and possible American president have already printed millions of bumper stickers saying: “Putin for President: As the Minimum, He is the Competent.”
    An official Loretta Fuddy, reportedly having already produced a document in Photoshop confirming Putin’s birth in Hawaii, is currently not available.
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 14 March 2014 13: 41
      +11
      The poster itself ...

      http://ursa-tm.ru/forum/index.php?/topic/80355-veterans-today-%D1%81%D1%88%D0%B0

      -%D1%81%D1%88%D0%B0-%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%89%D0%B0%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%81%D1%8F

      -%D1%81-%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5%D0%BC-%D0%B

      F%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BD/
      1. VengefulRat
        VengefulRat 14 March 2014 13: 58
        +21
        Supporters of the referendum indicate that the United States has deep historical ties with Russia. “Almost 20% of the United States is Alaska, which was historically Russian territory
        1. starshina78
          starshina78 14 March 2014 15: 19
          +1
          Until the end, Putin will tolerate this "swamp scum"! Isn't it time to reanimate a couple of "pioneer" camps in the Kolyma region? Let them work for the good of the Fatherland, which they throw mud at free as they can. It's time, it's time!
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 14 March 2014 15: 48
            +5
            Quote: starshina78
            Until the end, Putin will tolerate this "swamp scum"!

            Will endure for a long time since this swamp scum performs the role of the opposition (it is very profitable, because their image is negative and the masses will not follow them, and so it seems like it’s the opposition).

            Quote: starshina78
            Isn't it time to revive a couple of "pioneer" camps in the Kolyma region?

            But real oppositionists such as Yuri Shutov or Kvachkov have long been shaking the deadlines and there is a strict ban on them in the press. Budanov was completely killed.


            As for the referendum, why not Putin stir up him in Russia! And officially by the will of the people to adopt the law on the responsibility of the authorities http://igpr.ru/aim and EVERYTHING! Kapets corruption, all human rights defenders and bloggers immediately give up!
            But instead, they silently say nothing about the initiative, and the initiative group to promote this law was recognized as extremist !!!
            Maybe some special Russians are in Crimea, a referendum is possible for them, but ours in the RF are NOT !!! But how would the people of the president support it with such a law! But apparently not ...
          2. varov14
            varov14 14 March 2014 17: 52
            +2
            "Until the end, Putin will tolerate this" swamp scum "----- The Arctic is waiting for its heroes, the first builders.
            1. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 14 March 2014 20: 05
              +2
              Quote: varov14
              The Arctic is waiting for its heroes first builders.

              I propose candidates: Serdyukov, Chubais, Kadyrov, the Swamp organizing committee, Abramovich and the oligarchs in full force, the State Duma in full force (Zhirik and Zyuganov - foremen), High-ranking officials - in full force, millionaire governors ...
              This is offhand. It's time to explore the north, abandoned during the restructuring.
    2. Samaritan
      Samaritan 14 March 2014 13: 53
      0
      Class
      throw off the link ...
    3. f.lourens
      f.lourens 14 March 2014 14: 02
      +3
      Here is Sarah Palin’s vision through the Bering Strait to see Vladivostok it’s belay Alaska needs to be taken back home, enough has been taken ... you are giving a referendum on the accession of Alaska to Russia repeat fellow
      1. inkass_98
        inkass_98 14 March 2014 14: 41
        +3
        Quote: f.lourens
        through the Bering Strait see Vladivostok

        Yes, I was also amazed, and the curvature of the globe does not bother her.
        At the same time I am attaching the correct map of Russia.
  2. zeleznijdorojnik
    zeleznijdorojnik 14 March 2014 13: 35
    +21
    I'll tell you this, being an employee of Russian Railways since 2008, after being retired by age: Yakunin has good ideas, but the situation on the railway is getting sharper every year - even 10 years ago it was a state monoly, a system with its own schools, kindergartens, hospitals, universities, rolling stock, finally; now a lot of "daughters" have appeared where funds are spread, people in them without social guarantees, it is planned to issue shares and enter the stock exchange, there are no more cars belonging to Russian Railways - they were transferred free of charge to the First Freight Company, and now it has separated from Russian Railways and we are back we buy wagons for real money, and we are talking about hundreds of thousands of freight wagons worth tens of millions each. That is, personally, I have doubts in this regard, although I am not a liberal; Prima's support is certainly encouraging.
    1. ZU-23
      ZU-23 14 March 2014 13: 45
      +2
      Let the liberals shoot themselves, but it’s difficult to set up railways, I don’t see any problems, we build the north and south streams in a swoop, Sochi we build, etc. So I don’t see a reason for kipish, eyes are afraid of hand legs, then we will collect profits for life, of course already about our offspring, but we need to stir and earn money, it’s all cities and infrastructures.
      1. zeleznijdorojnik
        zeleznijdorojnik 14 March 2014 13: 55
        +6
        Yes, it’s difficult to set up, it’s many times more complicated than gas pipelines, not only is it expensive, it also requires a huge human resource. Even such a community as the USSR built the BAM from 1938 to the end of the 70s, at first by the forces of the BAMlag, later having arranged the shock Komsomol construction, they did not finish the northern latitudinal double-follower of the Trans-Siberian Railway and abandoned the IVS after the death. Not only that, to build, it must be maintained in good repair. So, your post on usefulness is similar to the comment from the next topic that it would be nice to somehow pull the Moon to the earth.
        1. ZU-23
          ZU-23 14 March 2014 14: 16
          -2
          Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
          Yes, it’s difficult to set up, it’s many times more complicated than gas pipelines, not only is it expensive, it also requires a huge human resource

          It’s just that you reason, then to look at it all with your own eyes, and my discussion about the future of the country. He Americans did all his life dirty tricks and as a result, they already set the check for us in Ukraine.
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      2. PN
        PN 14 March 2014 13: 58
        +3
        By the way, the name Vladimir Yakunin was on the EU black list.
      3. avg
        avg 14 March 2014 15: 20
        +2
        Quote: ZU-23
        and it’s difficult to set up railway roads, I don’t see any problems at all, we are building the northern and southern streams in one fell swoop ... then we will collect the profits all our life

        You at least read what "zeleznijdorojnik" writes to you, but the person knows the situation from the inside. Well, let's set up new roads for another uncle, nano power plants for Chubais, severstals for Mordashov, as much as possible. First of all, you need to put things in order, pick out managers from offshore companies.
        My friend worked for almost a year at the Fund of St. Andrew the First-Called (the founder of Russian Railways), they were preparing a procession from Vladivostok to Brest, plans were made on business trips to the branches ... Then he spat and left, says I can't do it anymore. And as they started talking about Yakuenin's dismissal, the program was gradually curtailed. And this is only a grain of sand in the Yakunin structures.
        1. the polar
          the polar 14 March 2014 17: 25
          +1
          Well, yes, magnificent plans to write on paper and then to voice, causing prolonged applause, this is a very difficult and patriotic work! It is much harder than lowering the tariffs for railway transportation, including passenger. There were no problems with tariffs in the USSR. And the Soviet minister of railway transport, working for the usual Soviet salary, managed to develop and increase the volume of railway transport without manipulating the tariffs and property of the railway.
          But Mr.-comrade-master Yakunin built the "fur-storage" for $ 75.000.000? And because some kind of "anal-oval" speaks about this, this is not at all a reason for all the other hundred million citizens to rush to protect Yakunin from "anal". People are still waiting for an answer from Mr. Barin Yakunin, how he, having managed to destroy Russian Railways, still managed to become a multimillionaire in this difficult business. Let him share the secret. Until it's not too late
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    3. jjj
      jjj 14 March 2014 13: 56
      +4
      Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
      10 years ago it was a state monoly, a system with its own schools, kindergartens, hospitals, universities, and finally rolling stock; now there are a lot of "daughters" where funds are spread, people in them without social guarantees,

      The Ministry of Railways fell under the rink of demonopolization, just like RAO "UES". All troubles come from here. Gazprom was defended. Practice has shown that there is nothing fatal in this. There is a reason to bring back all other state-forming structures
    4. PPL
      PPL 14 March 2014 14: 02
      +2
      ... personally, I have doubts in this regard, although I am not a liberal ...

      And I have big doubts.
      Unfortunately, in Russia they steal, and steal no less, but much more than before.
      I do not understand, these people have two lives? One life lives in theft and shakes, so as not to be imprisoned, and the second intends to live as a holy and honest person, but with a mountain of loot in a previous life?
      There is almost no trust in anyone, even if the inspection and control bodies steal !?
    5. Lindon
      Lindon 14 March 2014 14: 23
      +3
      Railway is an entire state in a state. The USSR is gone. Min of oil and gas turned into Gazprom, Lukoil, RosNeft, etc. And what can you turn railway into? You simply can’t privatize such a colossus and don’t give it into private hands. Russian Railways is the most expensive company in Russia.

      The idea of ​​TEPR is just a dream. The question is how to implement it under capitalism. For the USSR-it was within its power. And how to implement such a large-scale project now? Sochi was built by the whole world - it will be possible to give an assessment through 10 for years to evaluate the quality.
      Where to get the money? The USSR would issue loans and mobilize all resources. With falling oil prices, Russia will plunge into the 90s again. The oligarchs withdraw money to the West every year. In general, a lot of questions. Under the existing system of oligarchic capitalism, such a project seems unbearable.
      1. avg
        avg 14 March 2014 15: 33
        +1
        Quote: Lindon
        Under the existing system of oligarchic capitalism, such a project seems unbearable.

        Quite right, this is the key thought. Until we put things in order in the entire economic mechanism, the profit from everything created will evaporate. I'm not saying that there is no need to build, but in parallel, it is time for our oligarchy to "lead to a normal battle." After all, we still do not have, for example, a law on criminal liability of bank owners for deliberate distortion of financial information.
        And you say swimming ... The water is cold. request
      2. zeleznijdorojnik
        zeleznijdorojnik 14 March 2014 17: 16
        +2
        Unfortunately, it is possible: the education system was completely given away - now there are no kindergarten schools, ORSs were taken out of the Russian Railways and privatized, even banal vehicles were outsourced to the "necessary" firms, the cars were donated to "daughters", daughters were sold, now they went to stock exchanges etc., the locomotives are still Russian Railways, but large companies already have their own parks, the same Lukoil, medicine is being taken out to daughters, sanatoriums have already been taken out. There are already no railways as such - Oktyabrskaya, Privolzhskaya, etc., there are no NOD-branches of roads, there are directorates tied to Moscow at war with each other, even suburban transportation has been transferred to subsidiaries and is being sold. The accounting department is being outsourced - now there is no banal accountant at the enterprise. Ideally, management wants to have only infrastructure-rails, a contact network and that's it. The picture is generally sad. When I came to the railway (personnel officer), the work was based on the army principle and everything worked, and now it's a mess.
  3. Chifka
    Chifka 14 March 2014 13: 36
    +4
    It's time for a long time! Build the trans-European Paris-Kolyma highway and take all the maypoids into Europe to Siberia, let them grow corn there.
    1. Lk17619
      Lk17619 14 March 2014 14: 00
      +2
      Well, you are again the Russian North, Siberia .... No need to foul our nature. To extinguish them in place is all.
  4. Arhj
    Arhj 14 March 2014 13: 38
    +5
    Naturally, the liberals got excited. Their owners do not need Russia's independent investments in their own economies. The ideal investment option from their point of view is to buy green papers. And then some kind of transport infrastructure, which will also be built for rubles, was invented
  5. skifd
    skifd 14 March 2014 13: 38
    +7
    It looks like the frightening "Ghost of the USSR" roams not only in Europe smile .
  6. konvalval
    konvalval 14 March 2014 13: 38
    +5
    This is where you need to invest, and not support the economy of America that is openly hostile to us. Events related to the Crimea put everything in its place.
  7. Blind
    Blind 14 March 2014 13: 40
    -24%
    Publish at least something from such a garbage can as However - it should be shameful.
    And Eugene Super licked a chocolate eye at his employers with high quality. I am worthy of the prize)
    1. Rider
      Rider 14 March 2014 13: 59
      +7
      Quote: Blind
      Publish at least something from such a garbage can as However - it should be shameful.

      do you think "However" is a trash heap?
      Okay, how do you like Echo of Moscow, a worthy resource?
      offtopic attention
      (moderators - quarrel)


      About the main thing, which we often do not notice ...
      12 March 2014, 13: 02

      It seems to me that behind the Ukrainian events, which are certainly important, we miss some important meanings that are not obvious and are not striking, but they have already entered our lives so unnoticed and it seems that it has always been like this ... but it wasn’t recently...

      Until recently, the conventional wisdom that no one even dared to dispute was that the Russian army is a bunch of untrained guys on rusty iron, which the Russian army can only slay and resist, unless the Estonian army, for long. On this, the Georgians were even burned ... It was good form to laugh at the Russian army ...

      And today, even the most inveterate liberals call the Russian army a threat to the whole world! It never occurs to anyone to say that if the Russian army is forced to intervene in the Ukrainian civil war, then our boys will only be meaninglessly killed, the army will be defeated and dispersed like rabbits. We hear only statements and panic cries from all sides that no one has a chance against our warriors, and our equipment surpasses any other, and the only one who can at least somehow resist us is the united fist of NATO! Now, in a good form, it began to frighten the Russian army ...

      When did it happen? When did this turnaround occur in the minds of Russians and the whole world? Unknown Only known. what happened is so imperceptible and calm that it remained out of focus.

      And so in everything! In economics, ten years ago, Russia was painted in the Upper Volta comics with rockets and was called a raw materials appendage and a colony of the West. But today it turned out - that the West itself has become our production colony and is even incapable of applying sanctions against us, so as not to lose more than we do. It turned out that we do not owe the whole world, but the whole world owes us. That we will live quietly without them, since there is a queue from other partners to us, and they will die out, freeze and go bankrupt without us.

      End should be
      1. Rider
        Rider 14 March 2014 13: 59
        +9
        end

        When did this miracle happen? Unknown again. Slowly, step by step, this happened, and no one noticed how the father and mother did not notice that the child was growing and changing, remaining the same in the eyes of the parents until the moment came when the child came in after returning from the army and said " Parents, I'm back! " And only then the parents understand that the son grew up and became a grown man, a strong, self-confident person. Suddenly.

        And the same thing in foreign policy - yesterday we were graciously allowed to become a member of the G7 as stepson on a side chair, format 1 + 2014, and today the threat of expelling us from the eight makes us laugh. The unit in this eight by XNUMX turned out to be heavier and more powerful than the rest of the seven, since without Russia this sub-eight itself becomes a complete zero.

        And if ten years ago the President of Russia cut off his phones, asking permission for any actions by calling Berlin, Washington, Paris, today the President of Russia already has a hot phone, and he chooses - to answer Kiev, Berlin and Paris, or be silent. Since "while the Russian President is fishing or the Olympics, Europe can wait" ...

        We all slept through this, did not notice, we take it for granted today. But this is the kind of fiction that even the most daring writers of this genre did not dream of in 1999. All this happened so smoothly, not jerkily "by the dictates of a pike," that it seems to us that it has always been this way and it should be so. And this is very bad, because many continue to grumble, criticize Putin, once again they will not express their gratitude to the authorities for the titanic path they have taken!

        And this path has already led to the fact that New Russia enters every home and every Russian heart, and tells us "Mom, Dad, I have already grown up! I will protect you! Do not be afraid of anything else ...". Therefore, when Russians in a single impulse are shouting "Glory to Russia!" Today, they must remember that without Putin none of this would have happened. Look back often, Russians, to remember HOW IT WAS, and truly appreciate HOW IT BECAME!

        Yuri Alkhaz [/ i]

        http://www.echo.msk.ru/blog/jurialhaz
        1. dmb
          dmb 14 March 2014 14: 39
          0
          You have funny logic. Why a person who does not like "However" must love "Echo of Moscow". By the way, the regular "However" Prokhanov does not shy away from broadcasting on "Echo". Actually, if "Echo" was not there, the authors of "However" had to invent it. It's so easy, don't care about those who don't like most. This is actually what the gentleman with the noisy pseudonym "Super" is doing. It is not necessary to exert brain efforts, and so they will support. It is much more difficult to explain where the government officials got the money for the "fur storages", and if the "Super" tries to do this, then he will not only not be paid, but will also be pounded on the neck. For the sake of objectivity, it is worth noting that on "Echo" these questions are also not very interested, from which it is quite possible to conclude that both are financed from the same trough.
          1. Rider
            Rider 14 March 2014 14: 48
            +3
            Quote: dmb
            You have funny logic. Why a person who does not like "However" must love "Echo of Moscow"

            Yes, I somehow do not care what he likes and what not.

            I just had a reason to publish my thoughts.

            and between lamenting about "fur coat storage" and "21st century GOELRO plan" I choose the latter.
            1. dmb
              dmb 14 March 2014 19: 27
              +1
              And there is no "moaning". There is a firm belief that this Plan is least of all interesting to the MOST OF THE PEOPLE OF RUSSIA, and very interesting to Yakunin and Co., because the people will carry it out. and Yakunin receive dividends. All the previous "creative activity" of the Yakunins, Shuvalovs, Bilalovs, Serdyukovs and others does not give me6 grounds to think differently.
              1. Rider
                Rider 14 March 2014 20: 58
                0
                Quote: dmb
                This Plan is least of all interesting to the MOST PEOPLE OF RUSSIA,

                Well, if you think that the construction of roads, infrastructure, new jobs. and so forth do not need the people of the Russian Federation, then ...
                Wait, are we talking about the same people?
                1. dmb
                  dmb 14 March 2014 21: 34
                  0
                  Hitler also began with the construction of roads and infrastructure, new jobs. Question: Did he act in the interests of the people? So I'm about the people, and you seem to be about Yakunin and Serdyukov.
                  1. Rider
                    Rider 14 March 2014 23: 11
                    0
                    Quote: dmb
                    Hitler also began with the construction of roads and infrastructure

                    Why are you dragged adika?
                    maybe you have GDP = alozych?

                    and by the way, people used these roads even after the Fuhrer
                    1. dmb
                      dmb 15 March 2014 21: 27
                      0
                      Notice, I did not draw this parallel. I didn’t mention Putin at all, and if you have such associations, then you should think about it.
    2. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 14 March 2014 17: 03
      0
      Quote: Blind
      qualitatively licked chocolate peephole to your employers. Worthy of the prize I protect

      You are very inspired by the conclusion! Probably pro in "this" area ?!
  8. ren1999
    ren1999 14 March 2014 13: 43
    0
    Everything was already there. And there was the Great Silk Road. Recall the story ....
    1. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov 14 March 2014 16: 14
      0
      Quote: ren1999
      Everything was already there. And there was the Great Silk Road. Recall the story ....

      And ....? Recalled and? What did you have to introduce?
      The Great Silk Road created states and peoples, its significance can hardly be overestimated!
      Or do you think that since it was already, then this is bad?
  9. ele1285
    ele1285 14 March 2014 13: 44
    +1
    You know, I’m far from considering all liberal liberals to be idiots

    Yevgeny Super

    No, they are not, smart but corrupt. The definition of "enemy of the people" or "saboteur" is very suitable for them
  10. Cossacks
    Cossacks 14 March 2014 13: 45
    -2
    Clever article, I did not understand anything. Another attempt to manipulate us. Like tomorrow it will be so good if there is Putin, and without him an edge and a full 3.14zdets.
    1. PPL
      PPL 14 March 2014 14: 11
      0
      Cossacks (1) RU Today, 13:45
      Clever article, I did not understand anything.

      The article about the fact that our thieves should not be touched, otherwise everything was lost ... and so that no one doubts along the way the liberals kicked.
      My opinion: Any thief should go to jail (regardless of beliefs and party or kinship affiliation)! As for the liberals, they are furious with fat, cut off the "oxygen" in the form of Western support and their brains will fall into place.
      Criticism is needed, but not criticism.
      1. Rider
        Rider 14 March 2014 14: 53
        +2
        Quote: PPZ
        An article about the fact that our thieves should not be touched, otherwise everything was gone ...,

        Did you read the article ATTENTIVELY?
        if not, then a specialist for you (quarrel overtop)

        Would Navalny, who started the persecution, be truly honest and worried about the fate of the country, then I would write something like this: “Guys, the TEPR project deserves at least more attention. Perhaps there are sound thoughts in it and they should be disassembled. However, I absolutely do not like that Yakunin represents him. I consider him a crook and is ready to prove it in court, having all the facts in my hands. But in this case, let's digress from his personality and turn to the essence of the proposal. When it comes to the fate of the country, do not be distracted by personalities. We should closely monitor the development of the project and together consider how to prevent possible theft during its implementation. I am personally confident that Yakunin cannot be allowed to her, and I will prove it. ”

        where in the quote you read that our thieves should not be touched, otherwise everything was gone. ?
    2. 311ove
      311ove 14 March 2014 14: 14
      +2
      Quote: Cossacks
      Another attempt to manipulate us. Like tomorrow it will be so good if there is Putin, and without him an edge and a full 3.14zdets.
      And what is the manipulation ???? The development of our own production base, means of production, and other infrastructure is just "what the doctor prescribed" to any sane "community", but all sorts of funds, stocks and other "loans" are just manipulations. you seem to have some money, but here is a hop ... and there is none (you behave badly, rates have dropped ... etc.), and you don’t have shovels, dig up potatoes ... laughing
      If Putin develops our economy (to self-sufficiency ...) - I, for Putin! If Navalny, I’ll be for him .... but only he is all in the direction of Tolik the Red and other "economists" looking ... That's how I think .. repeat hi
  11. Siberian19
    Siberian19 14 March 2014 13: 46
    0
    Liberastov on knives! this slogan! would even support! am
  12. Committee
    Committee 14 March 2014 13: 47
    +5
    "the iron curtain will soon fall" - but rather already !!!!
    1. from punk
      from punk 14 March 2014 13: 52
      +3
      Quote: Committee
      "the iron curtain will soon fall

      well let them run. fed up with their values
  13. Manul
    Manul 14 March 2014 13: 50
    +7
    There is a meeting on the farm.
    Chairman - "Let's buy new harvesters!"
    A voice from the audience - "What the fuck are they to us?"
    Chairman - "Let's buy modern milking machines!"
    A voice from the audience - "What the fuck are they to us?"
    Chairman - "Comrade! Do you have any suggestions?"
    A voice from the audience - "Let's buy a balloon!"
    ??
    "Let's inflate him and let him go!"
    ?????
    "And the fuck he is for us!"
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 14 March 2014 17: 11
      -1
      Quote: Manul
      There is a meeting on the farm.

      Continuation of the meeting on the collective farm:
      ... the beginning is about the same, but the ending is different:
      "Let's buy plywood and engines!"
      "What for?"
      "We'll put on airplanes and scatter off to e .. her ma" er, before it's too late! "
  14. raketnik
    raketnik 14 March 2014 13: 51
    +1
    Quote: Blind
    Publish at least something from such a garbage can as However - it should be shameful.
    And Eugene Super licked a chocolate eye at his employers with high quality. I am worthy of the prize)


    Sorry, but where can I get ?????
  15. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 14 March 2014 13: 53
    +2
    In Russia, we have always thought large-scale and creatively, we have a "huge" plans! But they always put sticks in the wheels .. you have to fight
  16. parus2nik
    parus2nik 14 March 2014 13: 55
    +2
    I am for the project, but without Yakunin and theft .. In addition, it is necessary to revive river shipping, and this is cheap freight transportation, develop regions, shipyards, repair plants, training specialists from a skilled worker to an engineer .. it will take us accountants, economists ... although he is a lawyer and I work in the field of sea and river transport .. but nonetheless ..
    1. AVIATOR36662
      AVIATOR36662 14 March 2014 15: 24
      0
      If Yakunin is doing his job normally, and private property has not yet been canceled, then he has 100% of the right to all "fur storages" or "auto-retardants", etc. And if such "excesses" are the result of criminal acts, and this is possible prove is another matter. But - to prove, and not to grit his teeth with envy. He spends his funds at his own discretion. Although the girls can be taken to Courchevel, or maybe the country's biathlon team can be kept and prepared for all competitions, including the Olympic Games.
    2. Arbatov
      Arbatov 14 March 2014 16: 22
      0
      I understand that Yakunin acted as a mouthpiece: he outlined the possible intention of the country's leadership. This is not only about the railways, but also about the mentioned parus2nicom river transportations, and about roads, i.e. on the rehabilitation and expansion of the entire transport infrastructure in the country. The idea is not just good, it is necessary. We will not just not develop such a huge country without new roads - we will not save it.
  17. Kuvabatake
    Kuvabatake 14 March 2014 13: 55
    +1
    “This will be worse than a nuclear war. This is what is coming realistically and inevitably. If the "Bandera" will not save. "

    Something I do not want Bandera to save me. Better an iron curtain around the perimeter of the country than to a bread store on a tank under air cover and a company of special forces ... belay
  18. shtanko.49
    shtanko.49 14 March 2014 14: 01
    +3
    Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
    I'll tell you this, being an employee of Russian Railways since 2008, after being retired by age: Yakunin has good ideas, but the situation on the railway is getting sharper every year - even 10 years ago it was a state monoly, a system with its own schools, kindergartens, hospitals, universities, rolling stock, finally; now a lot of "daughters" have appeared where funds are spread, people in them without social guarantees, it is planned to issue shares and enter the stock exchange, there are no more cars belonging to Russian Railways - they were transferred free of charge to the First Freight Company, and now it has separated from Russian Railways and we are back we buy wagons for real money, and we are talking about hundreds of thousands of freight wagons worth tens of millions each. That is, personally, I have doubts in this regard, although I am not a liberal; Prima's support is certainly encouraging.

    This is Medvedev’s policy of privatizing and damaging.
  19. konvalval
    konvalval 14 March 2014 14: 08
    +2
    Now I read on the internet that the "underground bankers" have brought into the shadows $ 100 billion. Here's another who "must be removed from the place", as Ibrahim Proshke wrote in the Gloomy River.
  20. Pesnyadv
    Pesnyadv 14 March 2014 14: 16
    +1
    We have already started the implementation of the project - "Northern Sea Route"

    In parallel with him and in addition to build a system of Railways and Highways.
    Russia will blossom.
  21. Owl
    Owl 14 March 2014 14: 22
    +1
    The more active Russia is, the more actively its internal enemies (Anglo-American henchmen) manifest themselves, about 80 years ago, all these revealed traitors would have been very quickly "neutralized" and life would have become much easier, but for now, unfortunately, you just need to "know your own enemies "and be able to oppose them with your Faith, your Patriotism, your work for the good of the Motherland.
  22. Bakht
    Bakht 14 March 2014 14: 26
    +2
    Yakunin focuses on the fact that we are talking about something more than simple commerce, because the West imposes on Russia alien values ​​- economic development for the sake of increasing quantitative indicators.

    This is our defining moment today. But this very moment remained unrevealed. What is the country's economy for? Not the stall economy, but the country? We stand on the wrong understanding of the role of the economy in the life of society. I would say on the wrong path. Not a single religion in the world says that you need to get rich. Nowhere is it said about the surplus value and the exchange rate of the ruble, dollar and so on. Probably no one will be able to find in the Torah, the Bible or the Koran the words, stock, surplus, budget. The Lord, casting out Adam from Paradise, said, "Get your bread in the sweat of your brow." Allah brought down the Koran to Muhammad, which says that wealth is a sin. A person must work.

    "God loves the rich" is only used by Puritans or Protestants. Even Catholics don't have that. And it is Puritanism and Protestantism that are the idols of Western society.

    Carthage must be destroyed.

    About the project itself. Transport communications are needed. BAM is needed. And the project must be given a green street. But just as the article says. With a scientific approach. And without cutting dough.
  23. Flinky
    Flinky 14 March 2014 14: 29
    +1
    Awesome project, I think. Yes, you need a capital feasibility study and gigantic resources, but there are also interested ones - China itself, for example. All production capabilities are there. The question is different - who will lead and who will control the spending of funds allocated for this gigantic construction project. If these are government compradors, there is a huge risk of never seeing this project in metal.
    1. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 14 March 2014 20: 50
      0
      Flinky "Awesome project, I think."
      And I think so. And in front of him were GOELRO-2, Ural Industrial-Ural Polar and ...)))
  24. arnaut
    arnaut 14 March 2014 14: 42
    0
    I’m not familiar with modern Russian realities, but as it seems to me under Putin, this whole story is not worth an egg.
    If the leadership of Russian Railways really sucked in - under his trial. If the liberals vainly bark at an honest man, the trial of the liberals.
    And so it turns out, no matter the thief, not the thief - the main good thing for Russia is doing.

    Unfortunately, the experience of Yanukovych suggests that a person cannot simultaneously create fur stores and faithfully serve his people.
  25. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 14 March 2014 14: 48
    +1
    I think Yakunin is right. The BAM needs to be (and is slowly being done) raised. The second track and electrified along its entire length. On Davan, the second tunnel is being chopped down. At least we have started dumping under the rails on the Buryat site. But slowly.
  26. military
    military 14 March 2014 14: 50
    -1
    hefty resembles another departmental "message" addressed to the Kremlin ... "Old man! Pennies! Pennies !!! ..."
    well, and academics, of course, will also find themselves in business ... concepts ... fundamental research ... authoritative expert opinions ... this is also not free ... winked
    1. Rider
      Rider 14 March 2014 14: 56
      0
      Quote: military
      hefty resembles another departmental "message" addressed to the Kremlin ... "Old man! Pennies! Pennies !!! ..."

      I'm just wondering, do you consider ANY construction in terms of cuts and kickbacks?
      1. PPL
        PPL 14 March 2014 16: 42
        -1
        Quote: Rider

        I'm just wondering, do you consider ANY construction in terms of cuts and kickbacks?

        Alexander, don't make a naive face. Not a single construction project is complete without kickbacks, at least in Russia. And not the construction itself, but the whole range of issues, starting from the moment of approval. Believe me a word, I put the liver on approvals, though these were the times when issues were resolved mainly with the help of feasts (were you ashamed to take bribes?). Then more pragmatic guys came who preferred to take "dry rations". These are the realities, alas ...
        1. Rider
          Rider 14 March 2014 18: 27
          -1
          Quote: PPZ
          Alexander, do not make a naive face

          What am I supposed to do it?
          I myself am an excavator.
          and I don’t need to explain how and what construction objects are eaten and the contracts for work.

          is that just what follows from this?
          stop building?
          1. PPL
            PPL 14 March 2014 20: 19
            +1
            Quote: Rider
            is that just what follows from this?
            stop building?

            In no post did I say that there was no need to build.
            Stupid conversation fool it turns out that everyone hears only himself lol
            I remain in my opinion, which I also wish for you. hi
      2. military
        military 17 March 2014 10: 40
        0
        Quote: Rider

        I'm just wondering, do you consider ANY construction in terms of cuts and kickbacks?

        I just do not consider such projects in isolation from the "context" ... but it is quite amusing ...
        last year’s demand of the Government for state corporations to annually (for 3 years) reduce by 10% the expenditure part ... cries of the Russian Railways leadership about the budget deficit of the company and the need to increase transportation tariffs ... threats of mass layoffs of workers ...
        Does nothing bother you? ... then I envy you ... wink
  27. kare
    kare 14 March 2014 15: 15
    0
    Quote: Blind
    Publish at least something from such a garbage can as However - it should be shameful.
    And Eugene Super licked a chocolate eye at his employers with high quality. I am worthy of the prize)

    Whose serf will you be? am
  28. Free Island
    Free Island 14 March 2014 18: 11
    +1
    give Putin the presidency of the Galaxy Milky Way (this is the one in which we live even if)))))
    1. Rider
      Rider 14 March 2014 18: 28
      0
      Quote: Free Island
      give Putin the president of the galaxy the Milky Way

      it will be too small.

      DARK LORD OF THE UNIVERSE !!!

      (sounds imperial march from starvars)
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  30. Free Island
    Free Island 15 March 2014 05: 59
    0
    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/03/11/putin4prez/ вот он Кевин!)))))) его тема..ну что, возьмем под опеку США?:)))