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Thanks to the "Relic" Algerian T-72 will be the most protected versions of the "seventy-two" in the world

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With its fleet in X-NUMX T-325, the Algerian command has been looking for a long time, with the help of whom it would be possible to modernize their "seventy-twos". In the end, the choice fell on Russia.


Thanks to the "Relic" Algerian T-72 will be the most protected versions of the "seventy-two" in the world

Modernized with the help of Nizhny Tagil 250 T-72М1 received multi-channel sight "Sosna-U" with a thermal imager and automatic target tracking, the sight of the commander TKN-4, remote-controlled anti-aircraft machine gun.

In addition, the list of options included new communication tools, elements of the Blind optical-electronic suppression system and air conditioning.


Military experts, however, were surprised that the Algerian modernized T-72s were not equipped with dynamic protection. And now, it seems that this drawback has been eliminated. And, apparently, it is Algeria that will become the country Tanks which will receive massively dynamic protection of the new generation of Relic. This protection is able to withstand both the majority of modern armor-piercing submunition shells available in the ammunition tanks of the Third World and the most modern cumulative ammunition, including tandem.


If the Relic is massively installed on Algerian tanks, they will become the most protected versions of seventy-two times in the world. It would be desirable to hope that Russian T-72s that are being upgraded, which until recently were equipped with the obsolete Contact-5, will receive similar protection.
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  1. Sibiriya
    Sibiriya 13 March 2014 12: 29
    +6
    Yes, you have to set
    and also Armata to the troops soon
    1. Duke
      Duke 13 March 2014 12: 31
      +14
      Armata is still not close, so it is necessary to upgrade the T-72.
      1. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 13 March 2014 17: 03
        0
        HERE This is exactly what our T72 needs to be modernized, relic, distance, Algerians well done, and ours make a miserable version up to t72BZ, they throw 52 llamas into the wind like they put a scope and kharosh, and the tank is almost naked with a crooked scope, even contact and that with Bashki took off that, given the new birds that attack it from above, complete stupidity.
    2. Su24
      Su24 13 March 2014 12: 54
      +2
      It seems that the T-72B2 was equipped with a "Relic".
      Where to find data on the total number of modernized T-72s with us.
      1. platitsyn70
        platitsyn70 13 March 2014 13: 12
        +2
        T-72M1 (1982) - modernization of the T-72M tank. It was distinguished by an additional 16 mm armor plate on the upper frontal part of the hull and combined turret armor with sand rods as a filler.
        a good reliable tank will serve another 15-20 years in some countries, the T-55s are still in service
        1. RUSLAN39
          RUSLAN39 13 March 2014 14: 44
          +3
          Whoever said it, but the T-72 is still the best tank in the world with huge unspent potential for modernization. It would be nice to equip our T-72 with similar systems.
  2. RBLip
    RBLip 13 March 2014 12: 31
    +17
    Well, fools. ask Kars for the best t -64 tanks in the world. here they had to be taken. and then some kind of modernization ... laughing
    1. svp67
      svp67 13 March 2014 12: 36
      +5
      Quote: RBLip
      Well, fools. ask Kars for the best t -64 tanks in the world. here they had to be taken. and then some kind of modernization ...
      Yes, let them take it, since it is necessary to modernize the T64, we can install whatever they want on this "antique" ... Let them only pay money ...
    2. Sibiriya
      Sibiriya 13 March 2014 12: 37
      +2
      All our tanks are 64 upgrades. bully
      1. svp67
        svp67 13 March 2014 12: 42
        +9
        Quote: Siberia
        All our tanks are 64 upgrades.

        Repeat to yourself and always use the concept - DEVELOPMENT ...
        The tanks of the T72 and T80 series are a further DEVELOPMENT of the concept and ideas of the T64
        1. Sibiriya
          Sibiriya 13 March 2014 12: 50
          +3
          Repeat to yourself and always use the concept - DEVELOPMENT ...
          The tanks of the T72 and T80 series are a further DEVELOPMENT of the concept and ideas of the T64

          Modern - (French moderne the latest modern) ("" Art Nouveau "" "" Art Nouveau "")

          Explanatory dictionary of Ozhegov.

          modernize
          - portraying antiquity, to give (-at) features that are not peculiar to her, modern
          Example: M. epic.
          ***
          2. - introducing improvements, make (do) meet modern requirements
          Example: M. equipment.

          Efremova TF Explanatory dictionary of the Russian language.

          modernize

          Ness. and owls. trans.
          1) Modify, improve in accordance with modern requirements.
          2) To attach to the phenomena of the past modern features that are not characteristic of them.
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          2. svp67
            svp67 13 March 2014 13: 00
            +5
            Quote: Siberia
            . - introducing improvements, make (do) meet modern requirements
            Example: M. equipment.

            Yes, the fact of the matter is that the T72 and T80 are largely ORIGINAL designs ...
          3. SkiF_RnD
            SkiF_RnD 13 March 2014 13: 30
            +3
            Modern - (French moderne the latest modern) ("" Art Nouveau "" "" Art Nouveau "")


            Is there any sense in looking for meanings of a word if the concept of "modernization" means a very specific thing? Of course, the T-72 is not an upgrade of the T-64. Automatic loaders, chassis, engines, control systems, armor, etc. Everything is different. Correctly wrote the person - the following tanks - the development of the same concept. But these are completely different types of weapons, independent products.
            1. Patton5
              Patton5 13 March 2014 14: 39
              0

              Is there any sense in looking for meanings of a word if the concept of "modernization" means a very specific thing? Of course, the T-72 is not an upgrade of the T-64. Automatic loaders, chassis, engines, control systems, armor, etc. Everything is different. Correctly wrote the person - the following tanks - the development of the same concept. But these are completely different types of weapons, independent products.
              Thus, what China copies at all turns out to be and does not copy ...
              1. SkiF_RnD
                SkiF_RnD 14 March 2014 03: 34
                0
                Thus, what China copies at all turns out to be and does not copy ...
                That's as soon as China creates something independent, then I agree. Show me a Chinese tank, which only looks the same, but in fact nothing is copied, and I agree that this is not a copy. hi
        2. tchack
          tchack 13 March 2014 13: 00
          -4
          I do not agree at all.
          The development of the T-64 tank, and in particular the T-64A, in the best case, can be considered the T-90 tank, but in no case the T-72 !!!
          1. svp67
            svp67 13 March 2014 13: 17
            +5
            Quote: tchack
            The development of the T-64 tank, and in particular the T-64A, in the best case, can be considered the T-90 tank, but in no case the T-72 !!!

            I want to repeat your own words
            Quote: tchack
            Apparently the materiel was not taught

            Don’t tell anyone this nonsense.
            As information for consideration - the original name of the T90 tank - T72BU ...
            http://ekat64.ru/index/istorija_sozdanija_tanka/0-37
          2. Patton5
            Patton5 13 March 2014 14: 40
            +1
            I do not agree at all.
            The development of the T-64 tank, and in particular the T-64A, in the best case, can be considered the T-90 tank, but in no case the T-72 !!!
            fool
      2. sim6
        sim6 13 March 2014 13: 11
        +9
        Despite the general similarity of designs, the T-64 "evolved" into the T-80, and the T-72 into the T-90. The T-72 is a very good machine, there is a reserve for modernization, and they are right to modernize, it is cheaper than buying a new tank. But still, I think that the preparedness of the crews comes first. Better to train experienced tankers who can interact with other types of troops in battle. It is even necessary to allocate money for training to the detriment of modernization .. remember at least the experience of the initial period of the Second World War, when the Germans were on the "crumpled" t-35, t-38, t-1,2,3 thanks to tactics, experience and interaction with other families troops successfully operated against the most powerful mechanized corps .. or the experience of using the T-62 by the Egyptians.
        PS "-... they are untrained ..
        - ... it was necessary to teach!
        - the army, bl..g, paints the bardyurs! "
        1. mamba
          mamba 13 March 2014 14: 04
          +5
          Quote: sim6
          the army, bl..d, paints the bardyurs! "

          Borders whitens, and paints a grass. Before the army, I thought it was a joke until I saw it myself. They pulled a fly with a compressor from a rembat and began painting the grass with green nitro enamel from a pneumatic gun. Some generals from the district headquarters were expected to arrive. soldier
          1. sanitar80
            sanitar80 13 March 2014 23: 39
            0
            We didn’t do such fuin, we saved paint. We dragged sod from the nearest forest with fresh grass. N-th number of km. roundtrip.
    3. tchack
      tchack 13 March 2014 12: 53
      0
      In vain did they instruct the man of the cons ...
      Apparently the materiel was not taught.

      I advise you to read the article http://www.razlib.ru/tehnicheskie_nauki/istorija_otechestvennogo_tankostroenija_
      v_poslevoennyi_period / p4.php

      And best of all is the book by one of the creators of the T-34 tank Nikolai Kucherenko "50 years of the battle for the tanks of the USSR" !!!
    4. Shadowcat
      Shadowcat 13 March 2014 13: 07
      +5
      Chichas nabigut and divorce holivar) Some just do it will say that it is better than the T-34 tank;)

      Any weapon is good as long as it is controlled by a skilled operator (s) who know it and know how to use it.
      1. Patton5
        Patton5 13 March 2014 14: 58
        0
        Chichas nabigut and divorce holivar) Some just do it will say that it is better than the T-34 tank;)

        Any weapon is good as long as it is controlled by a skilled operator (s) who know it and know how to use it.
        The T-72 tank is not bad, but it is a step back from the T-64A. Whatever its creators say (T-72). Here is a well-known fact for you, neither the T-64 nor the T-80 during the USSR was supplied to third countries, even to the closest allies under the "Warsaw Pact". It was banally lucky, the production of the T-72 remained in the "non-profit" state after the collapse, and the T-64 was banally expensive for the young democracy of Russia (it was necessary to steal, at an accelerated pace) + it had been exported for a long time, and proved to be quite good .. and became the T-80 "the best in the world." (I will not argue about modern modernizations) ...
  3. sscha
    sscha 13 March 2014 12: 36
    +9
    To the Syrians, toss two or three hundred sets of kits1 Guys are fried alive in "boxes"!
    Ukraine is Ukraine, but good deeds are done in Syria too! Otherwise, all this pack of Euro-Amero - "al-Qaeda" will trample on us ... hi
    Also, the fascists from UNA _ UNSO!
  4. Russ69
    Russ69 13 March 2014 12: 37
    +6
    Quote: RBLip
    Well, fools. ask Kars for the best t -64 tanks in the world. here they had to be taken. and then some kind of modernization ... laughing

    The man laughed, but they stuck the minuses ... request
    1. RBLip
      RBLip 13 March 2014 12: 40
      +10
      Quote: Russ69
      Quote: RBLip
      Well, fools. ask Kars for the best t -64 tanks in the world. here they had to be taken. and then some kind of modernization ... laughing

      The man laughed, but they stuck the minuses ... request

      Thank you. you see the unsuccessful joke turned out ... wink
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  5. Coffee_time
    Coffee_time 13 March 2014 12: 39
    +6
    When I served I asked the warrant officer what the best tank was, he answered the T-64, although the T-80 is also good.
    1. RBLip
      RBLip 13 March 2014 12: 42
      +5
      Quote: Coffee_time
      When I served I asked the warrant officer what the best tank was, he answered the T-64, although the T-80 is also good.

      vooooootoot! laughing
    2. IRBIS
      IRBIS 13 March 2014 13: 05
      +3
      Quote: Coffee_time
      When I served I asked the warrant officer what is the best tank he answered T-64

      But in my opinion, the T-64 is absolutely not the best.
      He served on the T-72 and is convinced that with proper operation and competent combat use, this tank has no price. And T-64 - "sawmill" is a "sawmill"
      1. Patton5
        Patton5 13 March 2014 15: 36
        0
        so you served on the t-72?!?!? and so judge "objectively" request T-72 is not bad, if only modernization would be carried out without saving
    3. zeleznijdorojnik
      zeleznijdorojnik 13 March 2014 13: 09
      +2
      You need to ask not the ensign, but the commander. Praporu is better than the tank that brings him less hemorrhoids, to the arsenal and technical characteristics of the anti-warfare counter.
      1. mamba
        mamba 13 March 2014 14: 11
        +3
        Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
        You need to ask not the ensign, but the commander.

        - Comrade ensign, and crocodiles fly? wink
        - No, what are you? No.
        - And Comrade Major says they are flying. wink
        - Yes, lithati trochi, tilki are low-low ... laughing
      2. Patton5
        Patton5 13 March 2014 15: 37
        0
        You need to ask not the ensign, but the commander. Praporu is better than the tank that brings him less hemorrhoids, to the arsenal and technical characteristics of the anti-warfare counter.
        So ... all under one comb good
    4. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 14 March 2014 03: 57
      0
      Quote: Coffee_time
      When I served I asked the warrant officer what the best tank was, he answered the T-64, although the T-80 is also good.

      In general, only a good joke came out of your conversation.
  6. Energy
    Energy 13 March 2014 12: 48
    +4
    But what do WoT adherents think about this? )))
    1. Alexey Prikazchikov
      Alexey Prikazchikov 13 March 2014 13: 36
      0
      Dream of a relic on a t34 or tiger belay
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  7. ussrex
    ussrex 13 March 2014 12: 49
    +6
    Quote: Siberia
    All our tanks are 64 upgrades. bully

    Well yes! "64" is a separate branch of the Soviet tank building. Its successor should be considered the T-80.
    But the T-90 is a development of the T-72. In some works devoted to tank building, the T-90 is even positioned as a modification of the "72" -ki.
    By the way, the T-64 was never exported. And at one time it was a technological breakthrough: a new type of power plant, the latest fire control system. But childhood illnesses were also present: the tank was prone to spontaneous "blowing", the power plant required the heater to work if the ambient temperature dropped below +15 degrees ... In general, so somehow.
    1. Sibiriya
      Sibiriya 13 March 2014 12: 56
      +1
      Again not a development
      basis for subsequent
      start, etc. etc.
      if there weren t-34 and IS-2 would there be 64 and 90?
    2. svp67
      svp67 13 March 2014 13: 29
      +2
      Quote: ussrex
      Well yes! "64" is a separate branch of the Soviet tank building. Its successor should be considered the T-80.
      But the T-90 is the development of the T-72.

      As information: T80 is a kind of symbiosis of the ideas of T64 and T72 ... Who wants to argue, please ...
      1. svp67
        svp67 13 March 2014 13: 47
        0
        Quote: svp67
        As information: T80 is a kind of symbiosis of the ideas of T64 and T72 ... Who wants to argue, please ...
        I just warn you - I know the designs of the T64, T72 and T80 tanks well, so over the course of my long army life I had to communicate with them "personally" ... ...
        1. Kars
          Kars 13 March 2014 14: 14
          +6
          ___________
          1. svp67
            svp67 13 March 2014 19: 01
            0
            Quote: Kars
            ___________

            The Smoking Room is alive. My regards hi
            One clarification ....
            there is such a point of view

            And here are the tanks, on the basis of the tests of which the T64 was then created

            Kirov factory

            Object 770 - Chelyabinsk
            1. Kars
              Kars 13 March 2014 19: 17
              +1
              Well, I don’t see the connection between experienced strands and T-64

              And the right to consider that T-72 is a descendant of T-62, in principle, can be.
              1. svp67
                svp67 13 March 2014 19: 30
                0
                Quote: Kars
                Well, I don’t see the connection between experienced strands and T-64

                The history of development. The shape of the case, the suspension, the use of automatic loading, an ejection method of cooling, and many other things ... It was a common practice in the USSR, design bureaus did not make secrets in their work, each had access to all materials ...
                1. Kars
                  Kars 13 March 2014 21: 13
                  +1
                  there is nothing, so you can take any mechanism and derive a pedigree from it. On the IS-7 they also made a charging machine.
                  The shape of the case? What's so special about it?
                  and so on.
                  Quote: svp67
                  And T62 is a separate branch of development ... T44- T54 / 55 - T62

                  It may be separate, but the T-72 has significant similarities, especially in the chassis.
              2. svp67
                svp67 13 March 2014 20: 13
                0
                Quote: Kars
                And the right to consider that T-72 is a descendant of T-62, in principle, can be.
                Yes, the fact of the matter is that the T72 prototypes are:

                And T62 is a separate branch of development ... T44- T54 / 55 - T62
                The first principle ob.172 became ob.167

                They even tried to equip it with missile weapons - the Malyutka ATGM

                And of course, object 140
      2. flanker7
        flanker7 13 March 2014 23: 25
        0
        Regarding the symbiosis: I believe that the T80 is an evolutionary development "upward" from the T64 (chassis, engine, FCS). As for the T72, this is also an evolution, but already "down", because the tank was created as a mobilization version, that is, it was as cheap as possible. Thus, the entire subsequent "upgrade" of the T72 only brought the latter closer to the T80. Therefore, I think it would be more correct to say that T80 and T72 carried a symbiosis of T64 ideas. And there was nothing to take T80 from T72 ...
      3. ussrex
        ussrex 14 March 2014 09: 27
        0
        Quote: svp67
        As information: T80 is a kind of symbiosis of the ideas of T64 and T72 ... Who wants to argue, please ...

        As information: the meat grinder is a kind of symbiosis of the ideas of the Archimedean screw, clamp and lever with a small inventive admixture. Can not argue with that...
  8. Chifka
    Chifka 13 March 2014 12: 49
    +4
    "Thanks to the new type of iron with which they are upholstered, the war chariots of the Kingdom of Gulistan will become the most protected versions of the war chariots of the early 21st century in the world !!"
    It’s good, but it’s still old. It is time for a long time to transfer the Russian army to Almaty, and not restore the retro, no matter how reliable it is.
    For Algeria, this modernization may be normal, but the general tendency is alarming: not to saturate the army with a new one, but to sort out and restore the old for the hundredth time. I would like already that such modernizations were carried out with equipment abroad, and our army received a new and modern one. Something like this.
    1. Cherdak
      Cherdak 13 March 2014 13: 40
      +3
      Quote: Chifka
      Kingdom Chariots of the Kingdom of Gulistan

      The British and the Poles created a cool prototype.
      All Arabs die of envy ... Pakistanis already (they are opposed by the Indians with the T-90)
      See http://defence.pk/threads/next-generation-tank-pl-01.276027/
      There are a lot of pictures, just don’t laugh to how many ...
      1. Leisure
        Leisure 13 March 2014 14: 52
        +1
        (prototype) Steroid BMP, almost a tank.
      2. wanderer_032
        wanderer_032 13 March 2014 15: 25
        +1
        Quote: Cherdak

        The British and the Poles created a cool prototype.

        Stealth tank for greenhouse-greenhouse conditions.
        With such awesome side screens, you can only cut through the city asphalt, and in the mud there everything is forgotten to the ereni-hair dryer. And this "miracle horse" will stand there.
        1. wanderer_032
          wanderer_032 13 March 2014 15: 30
          0
          Here is this unit on the go:
          1. wanderer_032
            wanderer_032 13 March 2014 15: 37
            0
            Planned unit capabilities in a virtual presentation:
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            2. wanderer_032
              wanderer_032 13 March 2014 16: 02
              0
              Another unit, but from BAE Systems.
              A feature of all foreign machines in the complex equipment with various devices and protection systems integrated in their basic design.
              This video shows a thermal protection system that is used to reduce the visibility of BM in the IR range.
              And our native GABTU, still can not give birth to the installation on our MBT of at least the necessary equipment for modern combat.
              1. wanderer_032
                wanderer_032 13 March 2014 16: 13
                0
                Thermal protection system in action.
            3. ussrex
              ussrex 14 March 2014 09: 17
              0
              The concept is interesting primarily from a commercial point of view. It is likely to be a successful selling product. In general, today most of the modern military developments in the West are focused on maximum commercial return. Even in aviation the same "eurofighter" and "rafali", for example. There is a suspicion that this tank concept will become something like the American F-35, only in the Polish-British version.
              Purely IMHO.
          2. ussrex
            ussrex 14 March 2014 09: 12
            0
            Caterpillars of this PL-01 - g.v.n.s.
            How much does it cost?
            How many times more expensive than regular MBT? And how many ordinary MBTs are needed to get it banned? That's right, in the right hands - one.
  9. Capyar 48315
    Capyar 48315 13 March 2014 12: 51
    +4
    Attack helicopters, now upgrading the tank fleet. Choto will be in the region. I have already expressed this idea, but I repeat - are not our Algerian partners claiming a piece of an orphan Libyan oil pie?
  10. Gagarin
    Gagarin 13 March 2014 12: 58
    +5
    But you can’t sell all Contact-5, and put Relic on our tanks?
  11. Smiles to you
    Smiles to you 13 March 2014 13: 04
    +3
    Actually, 54, bends all ... good
    1. ussrex
      ussrex 14 March 2014 09: 19
      0
      In terms of price / performance ratio - absolutely unattainable laughing
  12. Leshka
    Leshka 13 March 2014 13: 06
    +5
    why is always the best abroad
  13. Combat279
    Combat279 13 March 2014 13: 10
    +1
    Quote: RBLip
    Well, fools. ask Kars for the best t -64 tanks in the world. here they had to be taken. and then some kind of modernization ... laughing

    The opinion of amateurs ...
  14. Aleks tv
    Aleks tv 13 March 2014 13: 16
    +6
    Upgrading my beloved Turtle ... heh.

    1. The gunner has a thermal imager.
    2. The commander has stabilized by HV TKN-4. (not stabilized thermal imaging panorama, of course ... but also not bad)
    3. Remote ZPU - is.
    4. Relic - is.
    They even stuck Kondish, put the receiver of the "Curtain" and shook the connection.

    Conclusion: very solid modernization of the T-72, quite a very.
    Still to put onboard protection like the BMO-T - the price would not have been such a machine. About 2A46M-5 let’s keep quiet ...

    And to us these hohoryashki kohda on T-72B3 slap?
    I already wrote that UVZ began to declare the modernization of the T-72B3 (M) with the replacement of TKN-3 with PNK-4СР, the installation of a closed switchboard, the replacement of the B-84 engine with the B-92С2 with a gift prize in the form of TVN-5 to the happy mechanic.
    But the gun is still modest - either 2A46M, or 2A46M-5.
    Protection - not specified, then the same "Contact-5".

    Algerians so far, damn it, jumped forward.
    Literate African-Americans, not like ours - white.


    Necessary side protection (BMO-T):
    1. Landwarrior
      Landwarrior 13 March 2014 13: 30
      +2
      Quote: Aleks tv
      BMO-T

      Wowbelay I didn’t hear about such a box. Thanks for the info yes
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    3. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 13 March 2014 15: 11
      +2
      Greetings, Alex. hi
      probably GABTU presses money for the modernization of our machines, and the customer pays for export cars.
      On the side protection of our tanks as on BMO-T, I agree with you.
      There is only a small addition to this, that the fastening of the on-board screen segments is simple and reliable, and also that the MTO also covers from the sides and stern.
      He won’t add much weight, but the survivability of the car will increase.
      In general, it would be nice to cover all the vulnerabilities. Starting from the tower, ending with the MTO in those places where it is possible.
      And by and large it is better to add KAZ to all tanks undergoing modernization (at least the simplest). Put this to everything that UVZ offers. And then there will be a complete nishtyak.
      1. Aleks tv
        Aleks tv 13 March 2014 16: 51
        0
        Quote: Landwarrior
        I didn’t hear about such a box. Thanks for the info

        Quote: wanderer_032
        On the side protection of our tanks as on BMO-T,

        This is a necessary CLASSIC for providing tank forces of the RF Armed Forces according to the USSR BUSW.
        But BUSV - it is necessary to read, a good book. But not all of its Parts are readable.
        This is normal. Secrecy must be "watched" and "taught" - only to the proven "Mazut".
        It is a pity that many generals do not "sniff" their faces in this Book with their snouts when they "pull the strap" ... ahem, ... b.ya.
        Just Army ... "b.ya" ...
        Quote: wanderer_032
        There is only a small addition to this, that the fastening of the on-board screen segments is simple and reliable, and also that the MTO also covers from the sides and stern.

        Sasha ... a lot depends on ... TVD.
        I will copy my post on board defense for heavy armored vehicles (not BMPs and armored personnel carriers):

        ... In the protection of the sides of the case at the forefront is a rubber-fabric screen. Even without boxes DZ "Contact-1".

        Based on the realities of applications mounted DZ (city), we can draw some conclusions:

        The contact of the case with a non-combat obstacle:
        Weak:
        - Rubber fabric screen with boxes DZ well bends around minor obstacles WITHOUT damage to the protection itself.
        - Frame hanging DZ demolishes.
        - Heavy screens are in place.
        Среднее:
        - Rezinotkanevy screen pulls away cell by cell, if they are not fixed among themselves.
        - Frame hanging demolishes.
        - Heavy screen stands still.
        Strong:
        - Rubber in the trash.
        - Skeleton in twist.
        - A heavy screen blows for one span ....


        Each technique has its own defense on a specific theater.
        1. wanderer_032
          wanderer_032 13 March 2014 17: 37
          0
          Quote: Aleks tv
          Each technique has its own defense on a specific theater.

          Do not deny.
          All measures for the preparation of equipment (for each operation) can be carried out by repairmen and crews in the field.
          An example is Syria, there is no provision for such material and technical support as ours. But they are fighting and fighting pretty well, judging by the video from Yu-Tub.
          So it all depends on the attitude to the task.
          It should be understood and understood by everyone, from the top to the very bottom and do everything that is possible. Only then is there hope for a positive result.
          It is a pity, of course, that not everyone in our Tank Forces understands this (basically I'm talking about the GABTU). There is no order in them, which is bad.
          Putting order in the Tank Forces!
  15. bender8282
    bender8282 13 March 2014 13: 31
    +1
    there are a bunch of modernization options for 72 matches, each one has strengths and weaknesses! why it’s impossible to collect the best from all of them and upgrade our tanks!
    1. Patton5
      Patton5 13 March 2014 15: 46
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      Because it is expensive ... Algeria is not expensive, but Russia is expensive ... and ... and even "Armata" everyone is waiting for, will they wait request
  16. Cherdak
    Cherdak 13 March 2014 13: 49
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    I went on the warpath
    My enemy stole the mind of many ...


    Alexander Rosenbaum - Song of Envy
  17. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam 13 March 2014 14: 10
    +2
    I will not argue about the features of tanks. But the idea is cool. They hung a cheap penny, and the protection increased by an order of magnitude. Set new sights - and the attack improved.

    There will be new tanks, but they will become obsolete. Modernization is an eternal process.
    Look for India, the legendary Mig-21 upgrade to the 4-th generation.
    1. Fiero
      Fiero 13 March 2014 14: 32
      +2
      Look for India, the legendary Mig-21 upgrade to the 4-th generation.

      But we even could not save the MiG-27 ...
      It has obviously more possibilities for modernization.
  18. scientist
    scientist 13 March 2014 14: 30
    +1
    I would like to ask experts. If written
    the defense is able to withstand both the majority of modern armor-piercing sub-caliber shells available in the ammunition tanks of the Third World and the most modern cumulative ammunition, including tandem.
    , then the tank was actually shot from all these ammunition and at the same time the crew (or the model with sensors) survived? And if you shot, then in all angles? Then what is the probability of getting exactly to the place where there is dynamic protection?
  19. valokordin
    valokordin 13 March 2014 14: 58
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    With modernized tanks Algeria forward to Somalia. Defend democracy.
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  23. Michael_59
    Michael_59 13 March 2014 15: 48
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    Of course, I apologize, but there are some doubts about the correctness of the use of the phrase "the most secure option" in relation to "Relic", see table. ...
    1. scientist
      scientist 13 March 2014 16: 14
      +1
      A couple of years ago I also had to formulate a comparative table of modern weapons in the service. The main problem was the reliability of the estimates made by the manufacturer, as well as the availability of methods and equipment for their verification. Judging by the table, the Relic and the Knife actually coincide. The question arises, but what in the world is no one doing this? Who tested it and how or is it just an ordinary advertisement.
  24. kelevra
    kelevra 13 March 2014 15: 48
    +1
    The main thing is not to forget about your needs.
  25. voliador
    voliador 13 March 2014 22: 34
    +1
    For now, it is necessary to build up air defense and guided and high-precision weapons, such as the Iskander
  26. Gagarin
    Gagarin 14 March 2014 17: 16
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    The tank in the second photo with license plate ...
    Is this for a HARRY ALGERIAN GAI?
  27. nightingale
    nightingale 14 March 2014 17: 24
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    Quote: scientist
    I would like to ask experts. If written
    the defense is able to withstand both the majority of modern armor-piercing sub-caliber shells available in the ammunition tanks of the Third World and the most modern cumulative ammunition, including tandem.
    , then the tank was actually shot from all these ammunition and at the same time the crew (or the model with sensors) survived? And if you shot, then in all angles? Then what is the probability of getting exactly to the place where there is dynamic protection?

    Most likely, they didn’t shoot at the tank with protection. who will allow a good tank to spoil. they hung the product on a concrete wall and shot from a model gun and calculated the effectiveness of the protection, but not according to the formulas, but from the attached table, no one checked the correctness of it and it is quite possible how nobody created it. but the developers are quite happy with it. here's how development happens. I didn’t know how they passed and whether state tests passed.