"Comrade is absolutely not in the subject"

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"Comrade is absolutely not in the subject"


After the lecture by Mikhail Khodorkovsky at the KPI, the opinions of Ukrainians were divided, regarding the Russian opposition’s view of the situation in Ukraine.

So, skeptical spoke on his page in Facebook one of the activists Natalya Lyutenko, - betrays Tsenzor.NET

She singled out the following theses of Khodorkovsky's speech:

"1. Oil rules the world.

2. Putin is king. Source: http://censor.net.ua/n275493

3. The West will not help, for see p. 1. and n. 2.

4. You are a nation, but n. 1 and n. 2

5. Democracy in Ukraine is good, but p. 1 and p. 2

6. North Caucasus is ours and we will defend it with weapons in the hands, if necessary, so it is necessary to recognize such a right for Ukraine in relation to the Crimea, however, Ukraine must remember that paragraph 1 and paragraph 2.

7. What to do? Ukraine needs to compromise, negotiate, create in Crimea a zone of "joint management" (or something like that, did not understand) with the Russian Federation, allow the Russian Federation to help (financially, etc.) Russian in Crimea, not radicalize, not cancel the law " about languages ​​"(named after Kolesnichenko), to ensure equal rights for Russian-speaking (although he noted that" creeping Russification "is also" not good ") and get used to the idea that" the Crimean question "will drag on ...

Thoughts were also expressed, a la Venediktov, about "civil confrontation in society" ("I watched sociology") and an attempt to write everything off as "external factors" (Section 1 and Section 2).


The mood of the audience leaving the hall:

1. Did Putin send him?

2. I really wanted to, but they didn’t tear them into cloths solely out of respect for the difficult prison past.

3. Sadly, comrade is absolutely not in the subject.

4. Vinnichenko is right, and whoever came to power in the Russian Federation, for us, only a five-meter fence, visa regime and drape as soon as possible in the EU and NATO. "
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  1. +3
    13 March 2014 06: 43
    And then activists activate one place
    1. jjj
      +11
      13 March 2014 07: 12
      Yesterday the ex-head of the Mejlis went to Russia with Putin to talk. And he began to vparivat that, they say, Russia is illegally taking Crimea. Putin reacted. I quote from a Tatar public figure: "Putin raised such a question that the self-proclamation of an independent Ukraine did not quite comply with Soviet norms providing for the procedure for secession from the USSR. This is the position." Tremble, Banderlog
      1. +3
        13 March 2014 07: 32
        the Crimean Tatars are our potential enemies at the genetic level, no matter how they cast spells, their leaders realized that the time of anarchy is ending, and they don’t need order, their misfortune, the strength and vulnerability of the business, so ..
        1. +1
          13 March 2014 08: 09
          Well, do not burn Crimean Tatars into enemies. They themselves are to blame for the fact that they are few, they just feel sorry for the fact that they could not achieve success over Muscovy at one time, and the Muscovites, even without going to war on them, had squandered the Tatars' troops on their territory so that they still hiccup! In any case, to extend a hand of friendship to them will be a good thing for everyone, even if you quarrel with someone, then with someone from worthy opponents.
      2. +3
        13 March 2014 07: 42
        I listened to this little one yesterday, I listened for a long time, that's how they were .... (due to non-ignition) they stayed. They won’t work out more free-spirits, so they’re screwing them up.
      3. +1
        13 March 2014 09: 36
        Yesterday, the main Kazan Tatars said in an interview that the GDP had agreed with their Crimean tribesmen and they would not boycott the referendum, but for this they would get such nannies that they had not dreamed of under Yanukovych and even more so with banderlogs. All this is certainly good, but as life shows, if the minority makes such concessions, then it becomes a majority with time and it already dictates its will, so there is a double-edged sword.
      4. kripto
        0
        13 March 2014 17: 09
        What this statement is just a continuation of his thesis that the collapse of the USSR is a great tragedy. I wonder what will happen next.
    2. +7
      13 March 2014 07: 12
      Khodorkovsky seems to be asking for a new prison term. Do you miss the bunk?
      The Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation began to institute criminal proceedings against Bandera and active Russophobia. A line of candidates for this case has already arisen, probably it is time for Khodorkovsky to be included in this line.
      1. +1
        13 March 2014 09: 58
        Quote: vladimirZ
        it’s time for Khodorkovsky to be included in this line.

        It is time for him to arrange permanent residence in Kolyma. Let the taiga fall there with a jigsaw.
      2. +1
        13 March 2014 11: 18
        Along the way, my mother recovered, it's time to go home, to the bunks.
  2. +8
    13 March 2014 06: 49
    Khodorkovsky’s anti-Russian rhetoric is the same as that of the loser and adventurer Saakashvili. If earlier in Russia someone else felt sorry for the walker, now I personally did not care about his present and past, because such rhetoric is unacceptable, especially since he was a Jew and was born in Russia. Why stupidly take revenge on Putin by calling for a confrontation with the Russians as a whole. Well, you file a lawsuit at the international tribunal in the Hague for GDP and judge what the Russian people are to blame for? I consider this conclusion - Khodar is terribly offended by GDP and has extended this offense to all of Russia, which is silly and somehow childish. Comrade Khodorkovsky is not serious. Recently, the elite of the opposition white rangers has made so many rash demarches that everyone in Russia has understood the true state of affairs, even without hysteria against them. They - traitors and enemies - snickering US agents who want to ruin our country by coming to power and rolling back to the 90 years, for which they receive regular grants from the USA and the West.
    1. +3
      13 March 2014 07: 05
      Hodor is just six of the Western proteges. He initially did not care about Russia, the Russian people, the Ukrainians. But Putin isn’t there, Putin has broken up and down his whole game, and even put him in jail for a long time. The stump in insult is clear, although he said that he had forgiven Putin and promised not to take revenge. But some Jews are. They say one thing, but a knife is stuck in the back as soon as you turn your back. And since Khodor is just six, he was sent to campaign and propaganda. And as you have noticed, it looks very funny how a Jew helps Nazis, fascists, whose ideology to extinguish all the same Jews. Some irony is direct. But in essence, those in power and money, the Jews absolutely do not care about the rest of the Jews, and especially those who assimilated. Alas, this is so.
      1. +2
        13 March 2014 07: 12
        That is why he looks so unconvincing and sometimes funny that, in my opinion, now he is a mishandled Cossack.
        1. +2
          13 March 2014 07: 43
          Guys, he honestly fulfills his residence there .. laughing
    2. +1
      13 March 2014 12: 02
      Did the cat abandon the kittens? It is Putin's fault that your wife left you? This is Putin's fault. They say hell in Russia? It is Putin's fault. You smoke, drink and are not married? It is Putin's fault. Did you get a grade at school? This Putin screwed up. Has the gray wolf carried away the rabbits? It is Putin's fault. Has hail fell in Krasnodar? It is Putin's fault. Oil dropped a hundredfold? It is Putin's fault. At the market, the grandmother beats the cop? This is Putin's fault. Don't have a hundred watt lamps? It is Putin's fault. Jerk off x * d, and you yourself are married? It is Putin's fault. Rain and hail outside the window. It's Putin's fault! The cat abandoned the kittens. It is Putin's fault. The hostess threw the bunny. Who is guilty, guess! Here the board ends at the unfortunate bull. Our Tanya is crying loudly. Near Putin, not otherwise. The light went out, the fence fell, The engine stalled in the car, The healthy tooth was removed, Or a thief climbed into the apartment, Didn't like the movie, You stepped in the sh * t. Any cataclysm has one explanation: Every democrat knows - It's Putin's fault! Who was in my staircase yesterday. Elevator to the ceiling? Believe me, KLICHKOVTSI, it's Putin's hand! I caught a "squirrel" drunk - This is Putin's trick! A pile of shit under the table. This is Putin's fault! the toilet got clogged - This is Putin's order, He threw the bulls into it, drained the water - and he was! At night he steals linen, Glass beats in our house! Dancing drunk in the yard ... This is Putin - a moron! There is no escape from the villain! Matom writes on the walls, Broke the bushes in the alley. This is Putin - oh and oh! The rain is wetting the liberal - Putin laughs merrily. Has your dacha been flooded? - This is Putin, not otherwise! Did the storm catch you on the way? - Then the Kremlin's hand took out. Cold, wind, snowfall - Again, Putin is to blame. Blowing the roof off a hurricane? - This is Putin taking revenge on the sheep. Storm, tsunami, flood? - This is Putin, no doubt! Downpour, landslide, cyclone - Of course he is to blame Mudflow, avalanche, rockfall? -It's clear: Putin is to blame! Tornado, typhoon, earthquake - There is no salvation from Putin! Has a crow pecked at the crown? - This is a young friend of the riot police. Bees, wasps sting you? - This is Putin's SpetsNaz. Do you see this bumblebee? - He is in the service of the Kremlin! @ & $ # @ & $ # If you believe this - It's just paranoia!
  3. +18
    13 March 2014 06: 53
    "1. Oil rules the world.
    Nostalgia for Yukos laughing

    2. Putin is the king.
    Record licked wassat

    3. The West will not help
    It is from experience wink

    4. You are a nation

    How dogs patted the withers lol

    5. Democracy in Ukraine is good

    Thus, saying Ukrainians, I fuck .... on you winked

    6. Our North Caucasus is ours and we will defend it with weapons in our hands, if necessary, so Ukraine should be recognized with such a right in relation to Crimea, however, Ukraine must remember that paragraph 1 and paragraph 2.
    Katz offered to surrender laughing

    7. What to do? Ukraine needs to compromise
    Once again, Katz suggested surrendering laughing
    All the same, it seems to me that he has been working for the FSB for a couple of years, otherwise I can’t understand if he’s shy away from Maidan’s bomber winked
    1. +3
      13 March 2014 07: 10
      I think that he may not work for the FSB, but the latter made him an offer that he could not refuse. Most likely, he was offered to become such an opposition that only helps the Russian authorities. He seems to be scolding Russia, but in such a way that he wants to hang the entire opposition and take the side of this government. He became very "tactful" after his release. And he began to support all kinds of riffraff, like pusek.
      1. PPL
        +1
        13 March 2014 08: 19
        Quote: Walk

        I think that he may not work for the FSB, but the latter made him an offer that he could not refuse. Most likely, he was offered to become such an opposition that only helps the Russian authorities. He seems to be scolding Russia, but in such a way that he wants to hang the entire opposition and take the side of this government. He became very "tactful" after his release. And he began to support all kinds of riffraff, like pusek.

        And what else is left to do after the "educational work" carried out with him in the Chita region? And now he still has to work off his living in a non-farm and return the trust of the "unenviable tsar".
  4. calocha
    +3
    13 March 2014 06: 53
    So Khodorkovsky got out of prison! Sooner ... still released ....
    1. 0
      13 March 2014 07: 15
      He was therefore released because now, apparently, he has ceased to be dangerous for the Russian authorities. Or maybe even become useful.
  5. +3
    13 March 2014 06: 55
    In vain he was pitied and released. He’s breaking firewood.
    1. 0
      13 March 2014 07: 03
      Quote: redka
      He’s breaking firewood.

      And what can he do?
      1. 0
        13 March 2014 07: 40
        Tongue without bones. The people managed to clean, the head is on the neck, and to these morons give direction as the rams go.
        1. 0
          13 March 2014 08: 11
          Quote: redka
          , and give these idiots direction as the rams go.

          In this case, Hodor is a salvation for Ukraine. Now there are such killer whales that Hodor is just an angel compared to them.
          1. 0
            13 March 2014 08: 33
            West Maidan in difficulty what to do next. For some reason, Russia does not bend, it goes across plans, because how much money has swelled. And again he needs to join. Or is he our agent?
  6. +1
    13 March 2014 06: 56
    Damn, I would be silent in a rag in silence, but then I showed off, apparently I liked sitting and was going to sit on the bunk again for 10 years.
  7. +3
    13 March 2014 06: 56
    There is a kind of double feeling: on the one hand, it is good that they do not believe Hodor, on the other hand, that they still believe that the EU and NATO will save them. As they say in one book and two films: "Abroad will help us!" Apparently, everyone who at least hints that it is necessary to think sometimes with their heads and reckon with the real world, Euro-Ukrainians (not Ukrainians, but traitors) will be considered Putin's hangers-on.

    And Hodor turned out to be that liar. He was released ahead of schedule, he promised not to speak out against Russia and Putin in particular, and here you are. But Hodor has now, so to speak, signed in his subordinate position. At one time, you went to Switzerland, they say, you saw off your kids to school, but it was Hodor's owners who summoned him to their carpet for a hundred poods and said: "Dude, you did not cope with the task in Russia, but we spent money on you, promised to enter into the circle of the "chosen ones. So what we have to do, what shall we say. Got it?" Well, he understood everything, and as it should be for the "six", at the first order, rushed to Ukraine with very dubious proposals. Scum that is still in general. Maybe he accidentally springs from the stairs and breaks his neck, or he hangs on a scarf out of grief.
    1. +3
      13 March 2014 07: 23
      So he acts in such a way that makes some people think: "If Putin has such enemies, then maybe he is not so wrong."
  8. +3
    13 March 2014 06: 57
    That Khodorkovsky, that Pusiks, having served time for criminal offenses, sharply became human rights activists. And wherever they appear, there is only a smell. (Unpleasant) http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/024/pqcb977.jpg
  9. +1
    13 March 2014 06: 57
    They crazy leads the blind and deaf to a brighter future.
  10. +1
    13 March 2014 07: 01
    Of course I couldn’t listen to the 1,5 hour lecture, but I read something and some thoughts from Hodor actually have a place to be,but the interpretation does not stand up to criticism; blaming the Kremlin for everything is already a rule of good form in Ukraine from arriving, it’s a pity. Who wishes: http: //top.rbc.ru/politics/10/03/2014/910102.shtml
  11. +1
    13 March 2014 07: 04
    Well, in general, he carried such a thing on the Maidan that it’s not clear to anyone, just like a yanyk sat on two chairs, Western dogs obviously strained him to go there.
  12. +2
    13 March 2014 07: 09
    It remains to regret that now there is no comrade. Stalin and comrade Mercader.
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  14. 0
    13 March 2014 07: 17
    Hodor in the zone was a sufferer for the "fighters", and now he is nobody.
    Dog licking the owner’s hand.
  15. paramon
    +3
    13 March 2014 07: 24
    In Ukraine, they played a circus performance, not like a note, but there is a result ...
    another thing is that the customers acted according to the principle: "The main thing is to get involved in a fight, and then we'll see" (VI Lenin), and the Ukrainians, unfortunately, were led.
    You are still just beginning (in Ukraine) to disentangle and disentangle ...
    If there is a desire - shake it up, no - welcome to the "banana" group.
    Everything would be fine, but you are neighbors and relatives, when a fire in the village is dangerous for all residents ...
  16. 0
    13 March 2014 07: 29
    Just a nightmare, what nonsense he was carrying, I listened to him a little on the "rain", the conclusion, he did not finish his term. But everything is ahead.
  17. +1
    13 March 2014 07: 31
    Again, Hodor signed a sentence. The life of a fool does not teach anything.
  18. parus2nik
    +2
    13 March 2014 07: 33
    Khodorkovsky during his imprisonment had to arrange an escape and heroic death during the escape ..
  19. 0
    13 March 2014 07: 36
    Hodor is just offended that they could not push Russian oil overseas cheap partners for its benefit. He will try to Putin for us ... in the bosom of the rest of his life for aimlessly lived years, let it be necessary to become the president of Ukraine! For oil, she and the devil will push through the presidency! laughing
  20. 0
    13 March 2014 07: 43
    But I generally do not understand the nonsense of this article. What is she talking about? Some excerpts, quotes what
  21. 0
    13 March 2014 08: 03
    It is difficult to judge by the theses about the speech itself, especially since Khodorkovsky did not write the theses either. But, in fact, we can agree with it with some points, but in a different wording, in my opinion. I would say that a developed economy is a priority for success, it is not necessary that it is based on raw materials - the same gas, oil, etc. And so, Khodorkovsky said with usual stereotypes about Russia, which led to a misunderstanding. Although the information on his speech was differently presented on Ukrainian sites, they described in lush tones that he supports the Maidan. Let's see what happens next. The last word is still for Russia !!!
  22. +1
    13 March 2014 08: 11
    "Don't be offended by him, Margarita Pavlovna. It was he out of stupidity, but out of ignorance, he blurted out. He's got the one," cuckoo ". As they let them out, he has been weird since then, silly ..." laughing
  23. 0
    13 March 2014 08: 23
    Normally, he did this, if you look at the content of his political information, then it is more aimed at cooling the hot heads of the Euro-Hohland)))
  24. ed65b
    0
    13 March 2014 08: 42
    Vynnychenko is right, and whoever comes to power in the Russian Federation, for us there is only a five-meter fence, a visa regime, and we can go to the EU and NATO as quickly as possible. "

    That's the whole tale about the country, that's all the thoughts and dreams of the people, in particular youth. When the last old man dies Dill will be the worst enemies to us, the Poles in the cube to 10 degrees.
  25. Iron Mike
    0
    13 March 2014 08: 59
    Quote: parus2nik
    Khodorkovsky during his imprisonment had to arrange an escape and heroic death during the escape ..

    And toss the Koran in Hebrew. Like Putin has nothing to do with it.
  26. Iron Mike
    0
    13 March 2014 09: 01
    Quote: anip
    It remains to regret that now there is no comrade. Stalin and comrade Mercader.

    Wow! Comrade Ramon would not be in the way with his ice ax!
  27. Iron Mike
    0
    13 March 2014 09: 01
    Quote: anip
    It remains to regret that now there is no comrade. Stalin and comrade Mercader.

    Wow! Comrade Ramon would not be in the way with his ice ax!
  28. Iron Mike
    0
    13 March 2014 09: 02
    Quote: afdjhbn67
    the Crimean Tatars are our potential enemies at the genetic level, no matter how they cast spells, their leaders realized that the time of anarchy is ending, and they don’t need order, their misfortune, the strength and vulnerability of the business, so ..

    Stopudnyak. Even our "ordinary" Tatars do not like them.
  29. Gagarin
    0
    13 March 2014 09: 32
    An extremely strange character who has not yet decided exactly on whose mill to pour water.
    But the oar already draws ....
  30. GRune
    0
    13 March 2014 09: 51
    4. Vinnichenko is right, and whoever comes to power in the Russian Federation, for us there is only a five-meter fence, a visa regime, and we can go to the EU and NATO as quickly as possible. " will be under a visa regime with Russia, in Europe all warm places (plumbers, wipers) are occupied by Poles and Balts.
  31. kelevra
    +1
    13 March 2014 10: 27
    It was necessary to determine him in a psycho hospital, and not in prison!
  32. 0
    13 March 2014 11: 48
    Khodorkovsky? And who is it?
  33. 0
    13 March 2014 12: 38
    I think I understood everything. MKh became a deeply conspiratorial agent of Russian influence. Disguised as a disgraced oligarch, he escapes to Germany, then comes to Kiev to lecture and scold Russia a little, then declares for the presidential elections in Ukraine (with his money, this is not a problem). He wins them safely and here the fun begins. This is such a "terrible plan of Putin" as they like to say in the West.
  34. karpov888
    0
    13 March 2014 14: 27
    he (o) did this for the sake of getting an opportunity to live there, and probably the Americans asked, blocking that they would not give the hidden money

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